Anyone else a bit disappointed with the festival?

[Anonymous No.]

>No IRyS
>Ame, Bae, Gura and Fauna didn't get to do much
>Horses and horsebetting were half of the stream
>Half the people didn't even get to see the haunted house
N-next year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
as much as i hate it, it's still better than last year. the fucking lag ruined everything. glad that didn't happen this time.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes if you were an ENfag
Blame your whores ENfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Wait there was a festival?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
It felt lifeless, mostly because of the whole horse racing line that took up half the festival.

The attractions were kinda boring and everyone just seemed too drained to do anything or have any hype built. Even the JP chuuba.

Last year was way better. Kinda wish they set these up around times reasonable for all members so they aren’t dead inside wanting to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964649
Yes. And it was shit, at least on the EN side

[Anonymous No.]

Seems like it was heavily stream dependent.
JPs had a great time
Takos too
KFP as well.

As a sapling, it was pretty underwhelming, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Just watch good Holos, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
>No IRyS
that's good. no obnoxious woman who talks over other people and repeat every sentence 2-3 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
>no irys
Already bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964891
But enough about Kiara and Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964711
That sounds disappointing, I enjoyed last year's one with all its lag and glory.

Are (You) having fun in the festival?

[Anonymous No.]

as a Hooman it was painful
probably because I got motion sick from watching lui pov

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964976
These big collabs will never be fun for secondaries.

[Anonymous No.]

the festival was kino

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah it was pretty boring. Ended up watching a rocket not launch for half an hour. It was somehow more entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964992
Did mumei have fun interactions with the Japanese girls, at least? The only thing I watched of hers was her trying to guide Kronii into breaking the melon, and not gonna lie, that was painful. Dumb owl!

[Anonymous No.]

Have you considered the possibility that you might just be burning out from hololive?

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>>31964428
I don't think the festival has to be a big thing every year but it clearly wasn't this year. Not against a few slower events but it really feels like this is the new norm instead of a planned smaller event

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>>31964428
>Not Onyon
I didn't see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965374
No one cares anymore

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah fucking kronii killing Gura over and over really ruined Gura’s stream too. I wouldn’t even doubt if Gura made fun of Kronii offstream about the homo collabs and kronii doing it on purpose.

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>>31965219
Only EN.
>Clique groups forming left and right
>Male collabs coming up
>Popular ships like Takamori and Amesame completely dead
Holo EN is garbage now

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964586
seriously i watched PEBOT and they had a fucking blast the whole time
i switch over to lui's POV for 5 mins and kronii literally sounds like she just wants to leave
no shit it would sound boring

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>>31965575
HoloEN need to be nuked

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965534
I think Kronii was just bored that she had to be quiet while the three JPs in her voice chat talked with each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965575
Cliques need to form so that the ENs can have collabs without it being with collab ruiners (Mori and Kiara)

[Anonymous No.]

For anyone who missed anything can just revisit and have another collab if needed??

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>>31965755
What did he mean by this?

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>>31965575
do you realize JP has clique too? chocosubaluna, pebot, smok etc

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>>31964428
Gura really needs to stop being so lazy and fix her chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964526
Despite the fact that the girls were having fun and the server didn't shit itself like last year, this festival seemed mostly soulless. It could be just me losing interest but last year's lagfest seemed genuinely fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965638
honestly this, idk what was with lui tonight, she's usually more careful to keep EN included but it felt like Kronii had no idea wtf was going on. to be fair this was all last minute and no one was really prepared.
pekor kinda just slapped it together on a whim

[Anonymous No.]

>No Okayu
>No Korone

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965894
But Holo jp is huge, over 50 members.
EN only has 10, no excuse for clique forming if they can include everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965989
The excuse is that certain members in it take all the oxygen away. If they're in a collab, they take 60% to 70% of the talking time away.

[Anonymous No.]

SNOT is the best thing that happened to HoloEN in a long time. I have enjoyed every single one of their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966052
okay but Ame has never taken 70% talk time, ever, and she's basically been outed out of several cliques

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965967
>No Ayame
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966175
That's fair, I like Ame. She should join one of the cliques.

[Anonymous No.]

Spend my time changing between Micomet, PEBOT and Kaela and had a blast, will watch Ina's stream later on since those two are better with no other streams running at the same time
The summer festivail was great

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965755
yes, miko and suisei did the haunted house tours after the festival date. pretty sure they have to request it, so no ENs are going to do it after the fact

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965929
last year it was like 2 weeks of prep and building, everyone had a clearer idea of what they were building and why. a lot of people complaining about the horse race but it was the only fleshed out idea that wasnt just a repeat of last year.
it was rushed, and not everyone was included in the creation of the attractions/events. Groups were also haphazard, nearly half the people were solo, you had ENs mixed in without proper attention given to translation and communication. It felt like JPs were too scared to try interacting again, in any meaningful way, so that pulled a lot of the allure of "everyone playing together"vhx4m

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>>31966220
No she shouldn't. Amelia is unity

[Anonymous No.]

Miko's and Peko's streams were great
Lui and Chloe streams were a bit of a mess, with the EN in them sounding confused and/or bored
Gura's group was fine - she was also often confused but she was cute as usual so I can't be mad at her

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965575
>now

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>>31964428
If you take it as its own event it had its moments but if you compare it to last year's summer festival then ya it was a noticeable step down. Coco Grad buff, first time meetings between Myth members and many JP/ID members, a much more elaborate preparation with more sites to see, not overshadowed by ongoing Rust saga, etc.

Still looking forward to the eventual Mechanico clip film of it as there was just way too much to follow as usual with these big events.

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>>31966328 (me)
Also was disappointed that Gura's group and Kiara's group didn't do the haunted warehouse, but they were really tired/hungry so I couldn't blame them much

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>>31964428
? It was super fun though, especially the horse races and the UNKO saga.

Almost everyone got to see the haunted house (still ongoing, Anya and Reine are in now).
Kanata and her crew playing the melon smacking game was hilarious.
Kaela's fighting ring were also pretty entertaining.

idk why you're complaini-
> EN
Ah, okay. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei and Miko always put on a good show, you just need to know who to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966588
Yeah, unlike last year, ENfags like me got fucked over this year.

[Anonymous No.]

I was pretty annoyed with the EN members completely ignoring Choco's stall. Only Mumei, Kronii, Kiara and Ina visited it but that was due to either being nihongo jouzu or having their hands held by the JP members guiding them. Gura, Ame, Bae and Fauna sat around Mio's stall for a solid 20 minutes and there were a few occasions where Choco had her camera pointed directly at Gura. She really wanted to have an interaction with her but Gura was too much of an autistic retard to notice or even consider paying the stall a few steps away a visit.

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>>31966685
Damn, didn't notice that. What a shame.

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>>31966655
I'm kinda glad that /jp/ doomposted Myth so much that I seriously started doing my JP reps, I have so much entertainment at the tip of my fingers now.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive EN's been a dumpster fire this whole time, and Kronii being revealed as a male collaber the day of the festival really took the piss out of it. It's no wonder Gura's burnt out and would rather just play games off stream all day.

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>>31964428
I didn't even know there's a fcking festival.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31967067
>and Kronii being revealed as a male collaber the day of the festival
It's been 20 fucking days since Kronii said she was going to collab with Tempus. 20. Why are you pretending to be surprised?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
I was just on Watame/Ina the entire time. They sounded like they had energy and I don't blame the rest of EN. Having an event on Japanese prime time means burgers like me are just fucking waking up and getting ready for work.

[Anonymous No.]

What the most optimal stream to watch if my desire is Ame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966685
Almost all EN girls seem to be like this... minus ina who is Korean and can blends easily with jp and irys who is hafu and can easily interact with even daisenpai. Meanwhile, ID girls have no problem with their JP senpais at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what the fuck everyone is talking about. The summer event was one of the best V-Tuber moments this year.

https://youtu.be/fDqHCo3U9vs

[Anonymous No.]

>>31967425
Watame is pretty much an Owl given the timeslot she streams. It was a surprise to see a frail girl like Ina keeping up with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>31967522
She's in Gura's and Bae's POV, Bae ended hers early because of connection issues but started before Gura. Didn't say much unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965948
>even though it came out of nowhere!!!
holy passive aggressive, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31967522
You're fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Nope. I decided to watch JP and it was blast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965948
>pekor kinda just slapped it together on a whim
It was Botan's idea though.

[Anonymous No.]

it was fucking kino on the JP side, sucks for EN enjoyers i guess
>>31965948
this year's festival was botan's idea, not pekkers
at least blame the right person if you're gonna blame someone

[Anonymous No.]

>>31969096
There would have been even less going on if Towa didn't put on her derby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31969585
Botan's idea, but she can't pull it off alone. Without Pekora's weight behind it, it wouldn't go anywhere.
It was last minute, all things considered, but it was fun. They did cobble together some great stalls. And while for a lot of people the horse racing might have been dull, nips are obsessed with that stuff.

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>>31964428
rude

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>>31964428
>only mention EN
of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965948
>pekor kinda just slapped it together on a whim
it was lmao. I wasn't even aware of it until it came.

[Anonymous No.]

As someone who only watched Watame and Ina hanging out, I thought it was great

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
>No IRyS
>Ame, Bae, Gura and Fauna didn't get to do much
Who???

[Anonymous No.]

watching sheep and having fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0xz38ED6Lw

[Anonymous No.]

Watched HoloJP
Problem solved

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Watch good streams instead of EN whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
You're not wrong but topping last years event would have been impossible.

>last time Coco would participate in a Big Hololive event and everyone knew it
>first time EN was invited to a full Hololive event and many first time interactions occurred
>everyone was playing minecraft leading up to it
>several relays and lits of planning made it feel grander

This year was just sort of like oh shit we need to do the festival! I mean I will always take content over no content. Clippers will feast for sure. Also the Reine Kiara POV was fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Hololive has been spiraling down the drain for a while now with the exception of like 3 or 4 of the 50 JP talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
>>Horses and horsebetting were half of the stream
Fucking Japs are so gambling addicted. Most JP Rust streams are in the scrap gambling shack while they explore and build off stream. So dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

ALWAYS BET ON SHEEP

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>>31965716
This. I love the SNOT collabs and even BaeRyS stuff. I can easily avoid Mori stuff even if IryS and Bae are in it I can't bear listening to Mori.
>>31971452
JP and ID are pretty good about announcing events and group stuff while EN is usually in the dark till the day before.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread

It really must suck to not know nihongo and be locked out of all the actual good chubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Learn Japanese

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>>31964428
it was very good, stop being a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>9 replies to the OP are Japfags bragging that they know Japanese
Good for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31972467
I'd sooner give up on vtubers and spend all the time I spend on them playing vidya instead than learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31972909
OP is complaining about not being entertained while ignoring the entertaining streams, what do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

don't care about it, wait for the clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>31972467
Japanese is a clusterfuck of a creole language (Japanese + Chinese + English + Korean) featuring multiple different readings of the same words and three different writing styles all mashed together. To date, Elira Pendora still hasn't stopped complaining about kanji even after a year of vtubing for a Japanese company. Throw in the fact that their own populace is quasi-illiterate to the point where their own former prime minister couldn't read kanji, and you wind up having to face the reality that the language is fucked to the point of needing reform.

tldr Learning Japanese is only really worthwhile for those who plan to live and work in Japan. For mere stream watching peasants, it's just not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973479
Anon... If you're into otaku culture, you know that learning japanese gives you unlimited access to doujins right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966852
do you really need reps for that though the girls all speak such basic japanese
even anya uses more varied expressions

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973479
ogey

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>>31973479
> Learning Japanese is only really worthwhile for those who plan to live and work in Japan
You can access fuck tons of untranslated media.
learning Japanese for living or working is the worst idea.

[Anonymous No.]

im learning japanese to access jk manko
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

yeah it sucked. hololive has really lost all its spirit
time to move on.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
I'm going to be honest, I didn't even watch it. I was only made aware of it by all the complaining you guys were doing.
Was Polka in it? Can I see her in some POV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31974158
yes, you can see her performance on all POVs, but mainly miko's and suisei's. She's the voice of the horror house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973652
>unlimited access to doujins
Not a woman, so I don't need to read doujins for an hour to get off. And once my nut's busted, I'm gucci. Also, doujins get translated all the time. And even if they don't, raws are fine too. Porn is the worst reason to learn a language.
>>31973867
>You can access fuck tons of untranslated media
If you're a permaneet with the time to CONSOOM all day, or a streamer who can use it for content. Speaking of which...
>learning Japanese for living or working is the worst idea.
Learning Japanese as a vtuber, especially one working for a Japanese company, is a great idea. There's ample opportunities to practice and put it to use. Likewise, for anyone with a talent or skill they can make money from, learning Japanese opens up that market. For a literal rando,l though, it's not really worth it unless you're planning to immigrate to Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973867
you don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>31968626
It did feel last minute though.
Probably because half of Hololive has been obsessed with Rust for the past two months or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Dumb faggot didn't watch any of the haunted house

[Anonymous No.]

>>31974492
The Rust arc must end

[Anonymous No.]

>no IRyS
Soulless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965948
I don't watch Kiara but she is based. I open her stream, like it and leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31975872
Irys could graduate tomorrow and no one would even notice.

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>>31966189

[Anonymous No.]

>>31976254
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>kronii sounded bored
noine of you retards watch streams, what else is new. literally watching it now more than an hour in and kronii is talking constantly, making jokes, and filled with energy. meanwhile i dont hear mumei talk at all

[Anonymous No.]

It felt as soulless as last year's.
Hopefully they'll stop this garbage and do something else next year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973782
not really, but ENfags won't even do that basic level of reps, and will continue to miss out.
they don't even need to touch kanji, just listening to JP streams for long enough will allow you to understand about 80% of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964526
>it's still better than last year.
nah mate, last year was fucking kino. I don't care if it's laggy or not but the all the stalls were infinitely better last year compared to what we got today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Holding a festival in Minecraft is the stupidest fucking thing ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964526
It's soulful though, not because of the lag of couse

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965374
A..Aqua w..wh..what are you doing?..

[Anonymous No.]

>>31974313
I'm a little gay boy with two thumbs up his butt

[Anonymous No.]

>>31977679
Yeah they should just hold a festival with all the holos irl and film it

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
A festival made by a couple of girls from ID versus the whole JP? Have some human feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966852
>>31973782
How does one start doing JP listening reps? Is there a generally accepted method that's most efficient, or are people learning from 12 different programs, all of which will get recommended to me, and 9 of which are awful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31966175
Ame outs herself from the cliques because she's still not big on collabs. You'd know this if you actually watched her.

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>>31967067
>Kronii being revealed as a male collaber
Yeah with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
Can't really be disappointed since I didn't know it was happening. I guess Rust just ate Summer Fest's lunch, but considering that we got PekoMiko, Baerys War, AmeSame interactions, and a bunch of miscellaneous fun moments it was worth it. The Summer months on the whole were great this year; Summer Fest and Sports Fest only seemed good because they were vehicles for people to vent their Coco graduation emotions into. Minecraft is boring and I don't care how many 10 year olds disagree with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31971828
Marine's entire schtick is being a whore, anon. You'll never be Japanese, but you'll always be a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't even know it was happening until maybe a week or so ago. Fuck all was mentioned on the EN side. They weren't even approached by JP to contribute which at least Kiara did last summer. That or they were and no one did anything. It was really telling when Kiara remarked EN and ID should host something, but then said ID would have to do all the building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31967425
I caught the tail end and will check out their vod but yeah, it would've been rough for me to catch this time slot even if they hadn't waited until the night before to mention it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31973479
You could say almost the exact same shit about English, including the part about having illiterate leaders in several English speaking counties. And while the English writing system is a hell of a lot easier than Japanese, it also decided to not only pull words from other languages, but also grammar, to the point that the only way you can know the correct pronunciation/conjugation/prefix/suffix/etc for words is if you know which language it actually originated from, or you have it shoved in your face constantly (which is the same way people learn Kanji).

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
The girls don't care about these events anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31978362
And that's just the one who actively courts a EN audience, Mel does it just as much and Choco makes both of them look like nuns.

[Anonymous No.]

EN has been treated like trash this year. Why should they care about some JP event?
You get what you give and EN isn't getting shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31976400
yoo ayame stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>31977992
google tadoku and hukumusume, if you just want to listen, thats all you need
read childrens stories (rather follow the audio) until you get a foothold, after that you just absorb it naturally

[Anonymous No.]

>>31978403
moonas superiority has once again caused controversy

[Anonymous No.]

>>31977992
Grammar and sentence structure are fundamentals + basic hiragana and katakana which are all easily learnable within a fortnight or a month.
After that, pure exposure is the next step.
My start was watching Pegor stream MGS3 while understanding fuck all, but over time certain words and phrases will stand out to you. You look them up and learn their meaning, and once that's said again on stream you'll go "hey, I know that word!".
Over time you get more and more terms into your vocab and you start to understand more and more, until one day you realize you've been watching a JP stream without subtitles and have no trouble with understanding anything.

This is a slow and tedious process though, but back when EN didn't exist, JPs were the only chuuba streams around, so we pushed through it.
There are probably easier methods around nowadays, but diving deep like this will ensure that once you learn something, you won't forget it.

[Anonymous No.]

No one cares and it shows

[Anonymous No.]

>see thread
>"Anyone else a bit disappointed with the festival?"
>seemed amazing to me, what's the rrat today?
>open thread
>it's a bunch of retarded eops crying that their western whores are incapable of having fun
Not sure what else was I expecting from this eop board. It was one of the best events hololive had this year. HoloEN was a mistake, watch HoloJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>31981581
I will never learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>31978403
>, but then said ID would have to do all the building
Just how lazy EN is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965575
Imagine watching because you want to make up dumb ships.
This board is literally children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31981991
the 1st time was special. now they are complacent, jaded and just phoning it in to get that membership money

[Anonymous No.]

>watch bae and Gura's POV for my Oshi
>bae's pov does because of internet or something
>now only Gura's POV
>Gura immediately runs off and starts joining random VC's
I'm honestly just perplexed more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

I watched pekora and Miko and I had a blast
EN girls where kinda tired I think maybe because of the timezone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>31981581
>HoloEN was a mistake
At this point... I give up, I think you're right, but learning japanese is not something you can do in a month you fucker, I don't have time

[Anonymous No.]

Was there a list of who got what masks from the gatcha? I watched Goop-Goops POV and they got a lot of early masks which was kinda neat

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>>31964428
No, fuck EN

[Anonymous No.]

I swear I'm not doing a meme but I had no fucking idea there was a festival going on. Last year it was very hyped up and everyone I know was watching it. There was hype before it happened, there was a lot going on and a lot of clips and memes came out of it. This year it was absolute silence. What the fuck happened?

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>>31981991
I don't watch council enough but Kiara is the only one who has been given two shits about Hololive for a while. Ina and Mori have active roommates who limit how implicated they are, Ame just prefers to do background stuff and Gura is either being railed 6 hours a day or a doxx away of doing sudoku

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>>31964679
>Last year was way better. Kinda wish they set these up around times reasonable for all members so they aren’t dead inside wanting to sleep.
I know you want to pretend this is possible (it can never be due to Kiara), but it becomes less possible with every extra hour the event lasts and this was a day-long event. The reason they don't invite everyone is exactly so nobody is forced to be there because that will just result in a bunch of unhappy people who want to sleep. You can literally never plan a single event assuming people will be normally awake during it since many members in EN and JP don't have "awake when the sun's out, asleep when it's dark" personal sleep schedules to begin with. There's plenty of times EN's can't collab with anyone because they are sleeping but on paper they should be wide awake because everyone in their part of the world is in the middle of the day.

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>>31964428
Get rekt EN fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965575
The sanest and true thing in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand japanese but I ended up watching Pekora's POV
She's so fun to watch, fucking rabbit I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>31964428
I didnt even know it was today....

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>>31964428
Then there's Gura vs Kronii. That shit was actually pissing me off.

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>>31964428
well I got to see my oshi go from struggling to get anyone into her attraction (which she spent a fuckton of time working on almost completely on her own) and me feeling really bad about it, to her being able to take in a big audience of some of the most popular JP's all cheering and having fun with it, right before her birthday, so I'd say it was worth it

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>>31973479
Weeb couldn't retain information in their head. LMAO WEAK

[Anonymous No.]

>>31976400
tf is ayame doing in minecraft???

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965929
People burnt out of minecraft and didn't a lot of the companies stop existing? The other issue is that last year was a send off for coco while there was no driving force this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965948
EN's just refuse to make up their mind on this stuff, should they be allowed to refuse every invitation they are given because they don't like the pressure or should the JP's just do open invitations so nobody feels pressured? The festival can't have come out of nowhere because there were so many streams leading up to it. Honestly, it's kinda funny how completely Kiara dropped the shtick that she even watches Pekora.

EN's like Ina had proper dates planned. And Lui more than included Kronii and Mumei, they were just tired and wouldn't have wanted to be the center of attention all the time anyway. She included them no less than Iroha or Roboco (who was a last minute addition). It was actually refreshing getting them trying to interact with the JP's and taking part in the events rather than talking over everyone with Irys...well, Kronii did that a bit with Gura but Lui allowed her to leave so it wasn't a huge bother. This was the first event where it seemed like the EN's (like Kronii and Mumei) actually did understand what was going on and it's because it was casual rather than them having short attention spans because it's an event with rules and official explanations all the time like the sports fest and they didn't need to be "streamers" every second. Lui even ended her stream because Council left even though she and Iroha continued with the festival for a long time after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31981991
The only one who likes Minecraft in EN is Fauna and her inspiration to make the EN's look like they belong in Hololive is Kaela of all people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31984740
>She included them no less than Iroha or Roboco
Complete fabrication
Lui has been good about that kind of stuff before, Kronii and Mumei were very much on the background here
There's a reason why Kronii was bored out of her skull and just starting shit with Gura all while being completely silent on voice chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>31965131
Mumei was kind of out of it because it sounded like she just stayed up last night on caffeine instead of napping beforehand; Kronii sounded more awake by comparison even though the stream started 3 AM her time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>31984567
What was her attraction? I didn't get to catch the festival

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>>31985135
lol Mumei and Kronii were having some sort of big interaction for the viewers and Chloe, Lui and Iroha just started talking with each other over them. This happened at least thrice.

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After reading this thread, the only conclusion is:

>There was zero preparation and zero hype for the festival

What were Botan and Pekora thinking?

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>>31985135
I don't think Kronii was bored, just confused and didn't know how to react most of the time. I watched for like an hour and I don't think I heard Mumei say anything.

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>>31964428
>Mori wasn't there
It wasn't as bad as it could have been.

Come to think of it if she hates MC basically that is the final solution to the Mori question, just live in there and she'll leave you alone.

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>>31984450
Yeah, that shit was obnoxious and went on for way too long. Gura took more time fucking around with kronii than checking out the stalls and attractions.

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>>31985135
Iroha wasn't even in view for plenty of the stream and not talking unless spoken to. There were plenty of moments centered around Kronii and Mumei from Lui's perspective. Kronii went along with the horror house and Lui and Iroha kept pushing her to take a leadership role, Lui kept her stream focused on Mumei of all people when she left to go feed her dog even though everyone else left and there was no reason to stay behind with Mumei at all. She even let them do the entire watermelon smashing event despite them being terrible at it. Your anger is that she didn't speak to them in English (something they clearly didn't mind, Kronii had no trouble communicating and Mumei has recently been trying to get better at JP communication), but to pretend she ignored them is retarded. The problem with the stream was it was 6 people while most of the others were 1-4 people. It meant nobody short of Lui herself is going to get the protagonist treatment (Chloe as well because she also streamed her perspective).

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>>31985241
an underground ring where you can sword duel zombies decked out in diamond armor

you get 2 chances to kill the zombie, if you do I think you either keep the armor or get to play a gacha where you can roll for a piece of equipment you're missing (there were separate gachas for each item, e.g. a sword gacha, helmet gacha, etc.)

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>>31985324
>Yes, I only watch EN streams, how could you tell?

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>>31985324
>ENfags complaining about things that are only true if you don't watch Hololive
It's amazing that these people can consider themselves Hololive fans when they follow EN Holos that don't even stream most days of the week and yet in all that downtime they never consider looking at other streams going on. Botan, Towa and Pekora explained what they were thinking in the first stream ages ago where they officially kicked everything off. That they don't want to pressure people and whoever wants to come can come. Where do you think all these stalls and events came from? This was all newly built. There were many streams about it. Literally everyone attended who could even be reasonably expected to attend such an event except for Moona and Ollie who made stalls but skipped out. The other few absences were sick, hate streaming or hate Minecraft.

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>>31985672
Headcanon: The post
80% of that stream were Mumei and Kronii on mute.

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>>31985973
idk what happened with Ollie but Moona wanted to join and couldn't because of technical problems

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>>31986039
more like 98%

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>>31986039
You're being generous. It was like 95%

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>>31986039
Just say you didn't watch the stream. You don't have to pretend. We get it, you don't want to watch a stream on a JP's channel or one that isn't exclusively in English but if you were a fan of Kronii and Mumei but don't hate Hololive, this was the best you were going to get. The standard you are setting this up against is every single other event like this where Kronii fucks off and ruins everyone else's streams by roleplaying with Irys. That is the gold standard you are angry only got reenacted for like half an hour with Gura.

At least complain about things that actually happened, like the fact Kronii and Mumei wanted to leave and sleep so they were always planning to dip after the fireworks and most of their time was spent on the horseraces, not realizing that for the others the plan was then to do all the stalls after the fireworks. The problem wasn't that they were ignored but that they left before seeing most of the stalls.

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>>31983770
Its because last year it was going to be Coco's final event.
Nothing like that this year so it was a lot quieter.

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The part where Choco was clearly waiting for Gura to approach her stall and Gura just never did will haunt me in my sleep. That was miserable.

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>>31984740
>Honestly, it's kinda funny how completely Kiara dropped the shtick that she even watches Pekora.
It was never shtick and she's adressed this before threadreader.

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>>31986602
We get it, you made a retarded statement based on your fuzzy memory of a livestream you watched a few hours ago and now you refuse to back down on it despite the fact you are wrong.

Anyone who happens to find/lurk this thread can easily try this out for themselves and see who, out of us two, is full of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3raZHLNXPU

Just click random timestamps and see who's talking in them. I won't direct anywhere and you won't either. And they can see for themselves how you're wrong.

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>>31974492
Botan has been constructing it for weeks. Watch streams

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Most of EN seems rather disconnected from Holo so I'm not to surprised, outside of the random collab here and there, it really does feel like they just exist in their own bubble.
But Cover treats them like this so I won't hold it against them.

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>>31987158
You're whining that the festival "came out of nowhere" despite the many streams leading up to it and you think you can call anyone else "threadreader"? Go back to your hugbox where your buzzwords belong globalfag

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>>31987451
Im addressing the Kiara/Pekora thing, I don't give a shit about your stupid festival. That's some other anon that said that.

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>>31964428
I watched Pavonashi date and it was kino. I rewatched Gura’s POV to get Fauna crumbs and yeah... I understand why it would feel underwhelming.

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>>31987379
I blame EN management for that, they must have been very haughty and snobby when Myth debuted and was on fire and they thought they run the show now, hence the girls made their own shitty MC server instead of integrate on the JP one.

years later the EN server is still mostly a backwater where the big activity to do is still fucking reinventing the wheel remaking shit other servers already did for basic utilities and very very little building actual cool shit. If Gura for example hopped on the JP in 2020 and was given infinite prismarine and as much quartz as she wanted ASAP, she might have had a slightly better chance of making Atlantis by now, especially because several JPs would probably offer to help and it'd become a collab project. many big projects on the server in fact were collabs (the aquamarine boat, gen5 house, Pekoland etc) which explains how such epic things got built. meanwhile ENs basically don't collab much together in MC on any structure. Gura and Mori (of all people) did try making that theme park a while back which was actually a cool idea but it's still unfinished.

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>>31987533
Kiara has a membership to Pekora that is still active even after she joined hololive. She still watch her and other JP even when she doesn’t talk about it.
She mentioned during the festival that she was watching Luna’s Rust stream out of all people. Just because she doesn’t mention it, doesn’t mean that she stop watching.

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>>31985730
>>31985973
The festival had EN members participating. If EN watchers didn't even know about it until much later, that's a failure of communication by the JP side.

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>>31964586
>Festival was garbage
>BLAME YOUR EN WHORES!!!
>The festival was organized by Usaken and had nothing to do with EN
Wow apparently the last samurai are the ones who don't watch streams. This is all on Pekora and Botan being god awful organizers. This is what happens when you get a major Hololive event that isn't organized by Miko. Just wait until sports fest and Miko will show the shitty rabbit how it's done.

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>>31987227
Again, please feel free to complain about things that happened (like too much horseraces). Not things that didn't.

15 minutes we have Lui betting on horseraces with Mio. Kronii and Mumei were involved in this but this specific timestamp is all about Lui and Mio, not Roboco/Chloe/Iroha either.

30 minutes is Kronii being the center of attention at Choco's stall with Chloe begging for her to love her as well. It was a cute ongoing Kronii flirtation that continued for a while, also involving Lui to make it a triangle. Unlike the usual event streams where she does this, it actually fit the context.

45 minutes is Lui, Kronii and Iroha going through Miko's horror house. They pushed to keep her involved and treated her as the senpai and it was fun.

1 hour, Lui is running around alone and only Chloe (who is also streaming) is also talking but based on the voicechat you can hear Chloe's stream is trying to involve Mumei and Kronii and talking to them while Lui is off on her own. Iroha isn't even around in the chat anymore and Roboco is also very silent. But after a couple minutes it goes back to everyone flirting with Kronii.

1:15 is more horse races, Iroha is still gone. It's pretty slow but there's a little chatter from Mumei and Kronii.

1:30 continues horse races. Kronii and Mumei are awkwardly cheering with the JP girls betting on a horse.

1:45 is Lui riding a horse, so she's in voice chat with the other racers like Koyori, Pekora, Towa. Lui is the worst horse racer ever and loses badly, it's cute though. This is where Chloe having a stream also could help you if you hate Lui and just want EN's.

2 hours is the long process of people standing in line for the final bet on horses. It's long and awkward for everyone. Lui is just on her own with Chloe (the other streamer) being the only other one talking.

2:15 is Lui and Chloe playing slots, Iroha, Roboco, Kronii and Mumei are all gone because they are still in line at Mio's talking to her (whose stream you can watch).

2:30 is watching horse races, Mumei and Kronii are talking with their JP's like Chloe.

2:45 is Lui off on her own excited to get her winnings for the final horse race.

3 hours is Lui guiding Chloe through watermelon maze. Chloe dies, then Mumei and Kronii awkwardly do the same event for way too long while Lui and the others spectate.

3:15 is Mumei/Kronii only with others spectating. It's very cringe because Kronii doesn't want to die and Mumei doesn't want to troll.

Then the stream ends because Kronii and Mumei leave and Lui and Iroha continue to hang around at the festival for hours without streams following them. Kronii and Mumei were no more left out than Roboco and Iroha. Kronii was definitely the most-involved of the six that wasn't streaming while Mumei was her standard self.

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>>31987732
>hence the girls made their own shitty MC server instead of integrate on the JP one
Pretty sure Kiara is the one who wanted a fresh server to start on and the other girls just went along with it, despite tons of people bitching at them.

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>>31988369
Kiara had like 0 interest in MC starting out so this sounds like a rrat.

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>>31985202
Aren't Kronii and Mumei in the same timezone?

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The festival was fine. Everybody was cute. Miko and Suisei were adorable. Pekora was cute. Lui was cute. Gura and Kronii's antics were cute. Everything was cute.

The only reason last year's festival was bigger is because last year was the grand send off for Coco. This year it was just a casual summer festival.

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>>31965638
I thought there were 4? Lui, Orca, Robo and ninja?

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>Mori and Ina
Active RM shit plus Mori hates MC
>Kiara
Traveling a bunch, multiple cons
>Gura
Uhh I dont know, chumbuds say shes super ultra mega busy doing shit
>Ame
Maybe could have helped?
Dunno enough about council to say if they where busy or not, sounds like either a failure ot communicate, to busy or just didn't care.

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>>31987732
Gura has had access to all the JP side services since they linked the servers and she still hasn't gone there to farm for shit.

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The point of this event is to be a MC version or a Japanese summer festival. A place where you go to hang out with your friends, family etc. You play shitty games, eat greesy food, watch fireworks and then go home. Last year was also an excuse to say goodbye to Coco but without that is just that, an MC summer festival. Even if you don't understand japanese or bother to read the tweets about it the opening animation made that very clear.

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>>31987948
>last samurai schizo
Getting btfo in/#/ really did a number on you huh

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>>31988449
kiara makes a good scapegoat because that would have been during the "orange woman bad" period, before people branched out into "pink woman bad" "yellow woman bad" and "purple woman bad"

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>>31965989
>no excuse for clique forming if they can include everyone
But they can't. They're not all in the same time zone like JP.

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>>31966175
Ame is just not well liked I guess

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>>31988368
ENfag will dip out to global to whine in his hugbox now his BS got comprehensively deconstructed

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>>31966175
Ame is giga autist prime.
Go watch the collab with Kobo and Iroha, the fact that fucking Kobo had to lead that collab was embarrasing, props to her taking the lead at least.

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>>31987902
Yes, it's a failure of the JP side that the EN side has a reputation for not scheduling anything or paying attention to HoloJP. Even when this board was all about the festival, people were confused if certain EN's were going to show up because they didn't announce it and appeared in the background of a stream where they weren't advertised (Ame/Bae) or put up a stream at the last second (Gura). Why are you pretending to be upset over the lack of promotion of a branch you don't want to watch? None of the EN's made stalls for it but ID and JP did. Planning for the event literally was ongoing during that ID sports event, the JP's and ID's from that event worked on the festival on that same day. The EN's went back to forgetting Minecraft exists. The only EN who streams Minecraft is Fauna and she was busy with her XP farm and anniversary. Plus, in all this bitching about no hype, you have to exclusively be a fan of very specific EN's who don't like this stuff to have missed out on it which means you can't possibly be upset and are just trying to create drama because you think Hololive should revolve around your antisocial oshi. If you are a Kiara or Ina fan, you got full dates out of this. If you were a Gura fan, you got her to stream. Everyone liked Bae's stream as well but it got cut short due to technical problems. If you wanted to see EN's get out of their bubble, Kronii and Mumei did their best. But the core problem if you only like EN's as you do and not Hololive was just that most EN's don't like to stream their POV's and they want to sleep all the time. This happens at every event. Everyone in the EN-only audience was aware of the Mario Kart tournament and the EN's still collectively fucked over their fans in unison with that event, this was a huge improvement over that.

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>>31987902
>Its JPs job to let EN viewers know about EN stream
Huh. Half the people here are saying the festival was "rushed" despite the fact JP have had streams showing its construction for the past 3 weeks

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This summer festival was the ultimate proof that not a single persen on this board watches streams, they just want to gossip

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>>31984740
TDX82

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>>31984740

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>>31989833
>People who can't watch streams also can't read posts
What a shock.

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>>31989514
Pretty much. Most of this things got clipped too so being an EOP is not an excuse either.

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>>31989109
holy wall of text, no one cares about your diary

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>>31989109

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N3 35P here, it was great fun but i agree that it feel underwhelming compared to last year, even with all the lag and shit, last one felt like a grand event compared to this

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>>31981991
lazy enough that no one has been bothered to a portal from the EN to ID server despite having supposed to do it like months ago.

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>>31981991
>>31984063
>>31991654
Rather than lazy its just pretty obvious majority simply doesn't like Minecraft that much, look at how much stuff they do in rust in comparison

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>>31987732
>hence the girls made their own shitty MC server instead of integrate on the JP one.
This is absolute bullshit, the girls didn't make shit, they where segregated from day 1, they had no input on that server at all.
>>31988369
And this just a laughable rrat, Kiara by her own admission had no interest in MC, she didn't know if she would play it beyond the first stream, hell that entire first stream is a goldmine of MC incompetence especially her insisting on playing 3rd person, to this day Kiara has no idea on how to mine for things properly, how to create resource farms among many other things.

To even attempt to blame the shitty EN server on Kiara is really something.

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>>31991527
Maybe because it was a grand event? Mr N3.

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>>31968088
IIRC Ina has explained that her sleep schedule has been bizarre since before Hololive so JP Prime time isn't a problem for her.

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>watch the stream
>kronii is talking constantly and having fun the entire time
>the first one who has to leave is roboco, not kronii or mumei
im convinced i live in a parallel world where /vt/ gets alternate universe versions of the same streams i watch

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>>31987379
They help nothing with festival

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>>31999038
In fairness, the people complaining have never once claimed to have watched any of the streams.

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I just wanna say that i believe this is the second time that Kaela reminded Gura about completing Atlantis. Kaela really does push for other holos to get their ass to work in a weird way and its fucking based.

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>>31964428
>wonder what all the bitching is about because the event was fun
>realize it's just fags complaining about EN, again
Now it makes sense, and is not surprising. Watch chuuba that actually want to stream and participate next time.

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Didnt even know there was an event going on because hololive and its talents are retards at promoting anything exciting.

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>>32001078
Given her previous career, I can see her having no patience for slackers. Pretty based addition by Hololive

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>>31981581
>t. エオピ