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>moontubers
>have trouble writing and understanding basic moon

>> No.31892681

Millennials raised on cellphones.

>> No.31893373

>>31892205
go back orange faggot

>> No.31893590

>>31892205
>try hard to be bad writing
cringe

>> No.31894949

>>31892205
>makes writing as bad as possible to avoid compromising herself from doxfags
>somehow the bad one
mind explaining?

>> No.31895147

>>31892205
Doctors handwriting is awful and they are supposed to be smart

>> No.31895266

>>31895147
Doctor don't have time

>> No.31895287

>>31895147
Doctors arent smart they just memorize shit

Jose who rigs his table tools into a makeshift assembly line so he can do his daily manual tasks with one hand while eating an empanada, he's smart.

>> No.31895378

bros how do i do my reps for chicken scratch moon runes...?

>> No.31895484
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>>31892205
Japanese is a dying language. 3/4 of hololive can't read common kanji and their entire vocabulary is getting replaced with english loanwords.
Learning it is a waste of time, their population won't know how to fucking read 2 generations from now.

>> No.31895491

>>31895378
Eat real sushi all days!

>> No.31895785

>>31892681
If you think already millenials are bad, what about Japanese zoomers who can't even use computers?
This country's literacy is going to the shitter fast.

>> No.31895881

>>31895785
Please tell me this is not true kek

>> No.31896830

Learning how to draw the characters by hand is really not that useful. Of course if you're actually Japanese then you should be able to fucking do it.

>> No.31897084

>>31892205
I'm starting to believe the schizophrenia rrats, schizophrenics actually write things that look like this....

>> No.31898638

>>31895484
They can read it just fine, because Chinese characters are all about expressing meaning with written word. Likewise, speaking is no issue. The problem is translating characters to speech (because there's no phonetic clues), and drawing them is a pain in the ass.

>> No.31898759

>>31896830
i like learning them because it's fun and helps me memorize roots, i'm probably autistic though

>> No.31899276

>>31895881
Computers (I'm including mobile devices in here) got too easy to use too fast. Millenials in their youth HAD to have low to high level literacy with computers to do anything depending on if they are early or late millennial. By the time zoomers got old enough to use computers you no longer needed any literacy at all and even the smallest hiccup is enough to stump them. There is a similar effect with gen X where the early ones have 0 knowledge because PCs just weren't a thing and the later ones that needed high computer literacy to use the new PCs that were popping up.

>> No.31903057

>>31892205
Is Chloe genuinely the worst JP?
>doesn't bathe and thinks it's normal
>fantasizes about cucking her boyfriend while being gangbanged by black men (yes really)
>illiterate / braindead
How the fuck did she get hired? Is Cover trolling us? Is Chloe one big troll??

>> No.31903157

>>31898638
Realistically, Japan could do away with kanji entirely if they started spacing words out. Otherwise it's extremely difficult to read, which I feel is the only reason kanji is still used.

>> No.31903183

>>31903057
The true nature of woman, when all the lies have been stripped away

>> No.31903330

Oh that looks like my handwriting.

>> No.31903460

>>31895484
Haha you also watched that dogen video bro!?!?!? Two more weeks and Japanese will be dead.

>> No.31903603

>>31903057
>fantasizes about cucking her boyfriend while being gangbanged by black men (yes really)
That one’s so extreme that I have to see where you got that from, unless you’re exaggerating about her 3D debut having some weird Eyes Wide Shut shit. That third one is pretty normal for Holos, and it’s not like she’s the only one with poor hygiene.

>> No.31903900

>>31903057
>fantasizes about cucking her boyfriend while being gangbanged by black men (yes really)

Chloe is now my oshi. Also link to where she said this?

>> No.31904003

>>31895881
Computer literacy among zoomers and gen A is 100x poorer than among millennials because everything they've ever used is ease of use locked in proprietary bullshit and shit like phone OS instead of actually needing some vague knowledge of what you're doing if you were using Windows in the 00s.

>> No.31904087

>>31895881
Why bother with handwritten kana and kanji if it's easier to use a computer (IME) or a smartphone (flick input)? That's how younger people in Japan roll.

>> No.31904200

>>31892205
She's just like me, we should marry

>> No.31904347

>>31898638
>The problem is translating characters to speech (because there's no phonetic clues)

God, this. People think memorizing the 2k basic Kanji is the hard part. No, the hard part is figuring out which of the 5+ readings it uses. It makes learning names an absolute goddamn chore. Especially if they get "creative" with it. For example, saw a roll call sheet where a kids name was 獅子王, which would normally be read 'Shishiou.' But no, it's ACTUALLY read "ライオン・キング" (Lion King). Kanji manages to be a beautiful, yet retarded as fuck writing system at the exact same time.

>> No.31904385

>>31903057
>worst
>lists a bunch of selling points

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>>31895484
If you think two generations from now all the young Japanese are just gonna switch to English, then you're delusional. Instead they're gonna speak this weird creole language that's neither Japanese nor English, with modern Chinese and Korean sprinkled on top.

>> No.31906142

>>31892681
Facebook is that way

>>31895287
>Doctors arent smart
Anon, this is genuinely one of the most retarded things I have ever head a person say.

>>31895484
I'll give the Japs one thing, having a language that's such a cobbled together abomination that it makes English look rational and straightforward is a real accomplishment. At least English speaking zoomers know how to speak their own language, even if the scourge of disgusting suburbanite American accents is slowly tainting the whole worlds dialect.

>> No.31906217

>>31906142
>Facebook is that way
Real ironic. A post completely lacking in self-awareness. Also some retarded Eurofaggot who can't stop seething about America arbitrarily. Who asked?

Go outside and clap for your Indian nurses.

>> No.31906836

When would you ever need to physically write something in this day and age?

>> No.31906885

>>31904347
I wouldn't call kirakira names and chuuni readings a normal part of the writing system.

>> No.31906953

>>31894949
Wouldn’t expect any less from a paranoid schizophrenic

>> No.31907172

>>31906142
English isn't more rational than Japanese. Quite the opposite.

The problem with Japanese stems from their social structure, where instead of learning every form of speech and writing, they only teach it to the "best"/"elite". Thus people that think they can live without learning the most formal forms end up having to deal with "superiors" that get offended at what seems the slightest misconception.

>> No.31907230

>>31906836
fallout is coming soon

>> No.31907564

>>31903057
And thats exactly why she is one of the top sc earners of hololive nowdays

>> No.31907901

>>31895484
Hope they reform their language soon. Japan is one of the few countries where highschoolers are still learning how to read and study japanese while in every other country they've finished learning their language by 1st grade.

Korea and China both attempted to reform their language and both partially failed. I'm sure Japan's language reformation will be a massive shitshow as well.

>> No.31908262

>>31907901
if it wasn't for autocorrect and the red lines appearing under incorrectly spelled words, half English and French learners wouldn't be able to write orthographically correct.

And if you don't believe me, just look at how many mistakes American philologists writing British English.

Colour not color you illiterate swines.

>> No.31908412

>>31908262
Its color in American.

>> No.31908701

>>31903157
Also homophones because Chinese is shit and have a lot of homophones and when japaneses take those reading for on'yomi readings they add even more homophones because of Chinese tones
Also japanese unirocanilly love kanji so they use them a lot

>> No.31908875

>>31906142
>At least English speaking zoomers know how to speak their own language, even if the scourge of disgusting suburbanite American accents is slowly tainting the whole worlds dialect.
would of - would have
should of - should have
it's - its

I'm not so sure about that chief.
They do not understand their own gramma, they are replacing auxiliary verbs with pronouns for fucks sake!
I blame the SJW and their pronouns for this. (Kidding lol)

>> No.31909107

>>31908701
>Also japanese unirocanilly love kanji so they use them a lot
Well, there's three reasons for that.
It's way shorter to write (which is a real pain for translators).
It's quicker to read since it makes the grammar more distinguishable (best thing about kanji).
It looks cool (yeah, really).

>> No.31909263

>>31907901
Language reforms 99% of the time just make things worse. Japs trying to reform their language would just end up creating like 3 new writing systems and half a dozen new readings for every kanji, and all of this would actually just continue to be used alongside the old rules, because that's how it always works.

>> No.31909638

>>31908262
If that island ever becomes top dog again, then they can decide how words are spelled.

>> No.31909992

>>31895484
Doesn't IRyS read both Japanese AND English at a middle school level?

>> No.31910182

>>31898638
You've never watched certain holos have you?
Every time Haato plays some fucking gacha game her chat keeps mocking her when she's playing the visual novel parts because she can barely read.
Korone has trouble reading kanji too.
In B4 "doesn't count, they're retarded".

>> No.31910892

>>31909638
>>31908412
>becomes top dog again
>thinks America is top dog.
Great excuse for illiteracy. Or should I write iliterasi from now on, top bitch?

>> No.31910983

>>31910182
Nene is extremely bad. Well, it's Nene after all.

>> No.31911394

>>31910182
I've seen Japanese and non-Japanese having no trouble with Kanji and yet whenever I hear about the Japanese language everyone brings up how many Japanese people can't read them.

I'm unfamiliar with Japanese but to my understanding, the biggest difference between those that understand them and those that don't is "training wheels". In many contexts, people learn the word with the Kanji without really paying attention to it or by simply reading the top text(above Kanji there is hiragana to show you how it is pronounced sometimes). Furthermore, technology that "corrects" your hiragana and katakana automatically into the appropriate kanji doesn't help people learn them. It does the opposite.

Thus people who decide to learn Japanese, feel the need to take off the training wheels and Japanese who have to study a lot from older textbooks, books etc don't get the help from technology others get. And given how dependant Japan is on technology, it feels like this is the reason that many Japanese people don't understand Kanji. They simply don't have to. Their phones, PCs and writers do it for them.

>> No.31911615

>>31892205
Chloe is just that level of stupid https://youtu.be/XFUW9ZbIaYM

>> No.31911754

>>31908875
>replacing auxiliary verbs with pronouns
Would you mind giving a couple examples of how that would look like?

>> No.31912398

>>31910892
write it however you want just quit crying like a bitch

>> No.31912495

>>31908875
"of" is a preposition, not a pronoun, dumbass, and it's/its is an arbitrary tie-break between _'s being either possessive or a contraction of "_ is", so it's entirely reasonable that people get it wrong 50% of the time. Even with the would of/have discrepancy, nobody is actually doing that thinking "of" works like it does normally, its just a re-phoneticization of the contracted 've that follows.

If you're going to be a linguistic elitist, the least you could do is actually know your own language.

>> No.31912510

>>31911754
I feel that he might be referring to the modern habitual tenses like "I be doing" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English#Grammar

>> No.31912578

>>31912398
Someone's projecting.

>> No.31912639

>>31904347
BUt shishi means lion? And oo means king? I don't see the problem

>> No.31912713

>>31912639
I think you're missing something here anon. It's not read "shishiou", it's read "Lion King". As in when they call out their son's name, they say "Lion King"

>> No.31913097

>>31911394
>I've seen Japanese and non-Japanese having no trouble with Kanji and yet whenever I hear about the Japanese language everyone brings up how many Japanese people can't read them.
Those exemples mostly comes from RPG and story-based games. It's kanji you don't use often in your common life, and since your average Japanese person won't read any "serious" book after high school, they end up forgetting them (if they knew it to begin with).

>> No.31913202

>>31912639
https://cotoacademy.com/japanese-kira-kira-names-japanese-culture/

>> No.31913299

>>31892205
It's not just Japanese. There are also lots of westerners who can't write legibly to save their lives. Especially if they write in cursive on top of that.

>> No.31913730

>>31912713
is this what happens when chuunibyou become parents

>> No.31914546

>>31912713
The thing is those kirakira names are the parents intentionally choosing retarded readings so their kid will feel special.
It's like saying English is fucked because black people name their kid T'vontaylow

>> No.31914552

>>31912639
>>31912713
Much like 戦人 being read as Battler in Umiunko.

>> No.31918542

>>31906142
I've been classmates with med students, man, intelligence really wasn't a prerequisite.

>> No.31920258

>>31906142
>all doctors are smart
you've fallen for propaganda, Anon.

>> No.31922541

>>31906142
Doctors are just tech support for meat

>> No.31923106

>>31906142
>he actually respects doctors
Hahaha holy shit what a faggot. A handful of doctors are smart and honest but most of them are grifters, dumb as as shit, or both.

>> No.31923860

>>31895785
With the way replacement rates are going in those countries they won't have to worry about asian zoomers. South Korea replacement rate is like .8.

>> No.31928114

>>31910892
Ah, the seething of the irrelevant, such sweet music

>> No.31933817

>>31923860
Everything about South Korea is rotten, but it's still impressive that they managed to out-Japan Japan in that case.

>> No.31934372

>>31907901
>they should increase their illiteracy like China and Korea did
By what logic is this a good thing. What you are preaching is the equivalent of all American schools exclusively teaching their students ebonics and then most of society catering to that illiteracy (as it already does) just to boost a fake stat of literacy when none of those people can then go read an actual book in what is supposedly their language. Just stop sending kids who don't want to be literate to school, it's wasted on them to begin with.

>> No.31936180

>>31895484
>Japanese becomes a dead language
>Japanese people adopt western culture
You guys don't know what pandora box you're opening

>> No.31936561

>>31904347
>獅子王, which would normally be read 'Shishiou.' But no, it's ACTUALLY read "ライオン・キング" (Lion King).
nigga are you reading fateshit

>> No.31938730

>>31892205
Absolute shit hand writing is the sign of either a genius, Parkinson's disease or time travelling side effects.

>> No.31943062

>>31938730
alternatively she's a serial killer in the making

>> No.31945642

>>31895785
Maybe they should replace their horrible fucking orthography with something more sensible, maybe then more people would actually be able to properly read and write.

>> No.31947651

>>31936561
Yes, but that's not where I got that from.

>> No.31949315

>>31912713
Oh my fucking god, something like Raionu Kinugu? That's how you end up in a noose.

>> No.31949722

>>31913097
>since your average Japanese person won't read any "serious" book after high school, they end up forgetting them (if they knew it to begin with).
So you are saying that i can impress ladies with japanese poetry?

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