/#/ - Numbers

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AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>31667613
/#/ is declining

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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust
19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,506 - New outfit reveal
20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers
21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab
22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 50,411 - 3D live
23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,613* - Hololive Summer

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
5x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Noel
1x: Chima, Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Toya, Towa, Shion

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
147x: Hololive
80x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
28x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
8x: Nijisanji
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Noel, Polka
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>63,613: Hololive (Hololive)
>52,902: Shiranami Ramune (VSPO)
>43,091: Petra (Nijisanji)
>28,544: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>25,875: Salome (Nijisanji)
>25,729: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>25,385: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,046: Hal (Neo Porte)
>23,719: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,664: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>21,226: Lamy (Hololive)
>17,258: Towa (Hololive)
>16,506: Flare (Hololive)
>15,618: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,414: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,290: Miko (Hololive)
>13,632: Fauna (Hololive)
>13,369: Botan (Hololive)
>13,190: Calli (Hololive)
>13,095: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,502: Nene (Hololive)
>11,930: Choco (Hololive)
>11,542: Lui (Hololive)
>11,292: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,142: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,868: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,797: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,602: Towa (Hololive)
>10,506: Ike (Nijisanji)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMVJTLZOzQ
Let me stay here reached 800k views a few minutes ago.

On track for 1 mil before 6 months.
Considering many said it would never hit 1 mil, it's doing ok.

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I fucking hate euro hours

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>Couldn't hit the image limit

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>>31667663
Im not surprised that Axel and Regis are in that range and I suspect Noir and Magni will go down to those ranges as well

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>>31667718
>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics
5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut
6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab
7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice
8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live
9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league
14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals
15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon
16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live
17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust
19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,506 - New outfit reveal
20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers
21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab
22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 50,411* - 3D live
23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,613* - Hololive Summer

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
4x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Noel
1x: Chima, Flare, Fuwa, Hololive, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Shion, Towa, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
146x: Hololive
81x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
27x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Subaru
8x: Nijisanji
6x: Hal, Marine
5x: Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Noel, Polka
2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>>31667756
sorry anon, I failed you

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>>31667756
Gomen anon

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>>31667488
>I thought women were okay with gay shit and wouldn't complain about there not being straight shit
Different types of shipfags, some of them like to self insert. Anyway yeah that reads like the kind of stuff I saw back when I was still on /drg/, no straight male is typing out those posts. Did /hlgg/ tourists actually get bullied out of that thread by /vt/sisters lmao. Fucking weak.

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>>31667727
Completely anecdotal but for me she trailed off Astrogirl hard, with my work PC on incognito she would pop-out after few holo researches during the graduation month, while being in the mainpage for 2 weeks in my home vtuber youtube account

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>>31667786
die zigger

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>rosemi can easily get 12k with a random tier list stream
>fauna can't even get close without a Z on her big one year celebration
Why do we even pretend that HoloEN is popular, again?

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>>31667786
>4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics
Kon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun!

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>>31667801
>>31667857
Don't worry it was a group failure

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>>31667903
Fauna is just the lowest. Bae got over 30k on her anniversary stream

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>>31667870
>. Did /hlgg/ tourists actually get bullied out of that thread by /vt/sisters lmao
I think so and most of them settled here and for some reason they get mad when people criticize the boys shit choice of streaming materials even though we do the same for the girls

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>>31667786
cringe tally
>>31667703
correct tally

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>>31667488
I was away for 4 days wtf happened. Maybe it's because i only come during streams and missed the gayposting ritual hours. Didn't know shit like this also festered. Good thing both Tempus and EN shut down the potential of shipping entirely.

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>>31667942
we try again?

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>>31667718
>43,091: Petra
didn't get gold but still gg, didn't think anyone was expecting that

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>>31667991
if you niggers start this shit I will dump my entire yagoo folder in this thread so don't

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>>31667488
i fucking told you all that giving them a hand would lead to them ripping your arm off
never compromise with beggars

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>>31667903
It's not that HoloEN isn't popular, it's that Fauna is shit and the worst of HoloEn

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>>31667678
hey man

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>>31667984
>pic
She sure as shit didn't help

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>>31668018
I remember some people saying that she and rosemi might go into 30-40k range and selen might get 80-90k due to tourists increasing this year.
Dont know if it was shitposting or sincere though

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>>31668025
any help is welcome

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The het shipping market is underutilized. You see weeb het shipping everywhere no matter the language. Cover should debut an actual couple as a vtuber pair.

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>>31668046
yeah that's we use the Fauna line for Niji comparisons, it's only fair

>>31668084
the fact that migo took this long is a sign of decline

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>nobody responds to rosemi/fauna bait
>responds to himself twice

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>>31668103
If they break up it becomes messy.

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I thought this might be interesting.

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>>31668095
No way Selen is gonna get so much.

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>>31668103
i'm going to strangle you

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>>31668103
Hey remember what happened to that Nijisanji lesbian couple when they broke up?

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>>31668129
yeah but imagine the numbers on the "Major announcement" stream

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>>31668025
Oh no no no, think of the children

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reminder when Pekora really took it serious not even other Holos can compare with her, the number rabbit knows everything about number and she wants to stay at the very top of this industry.

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>>31668145
cute boy

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>>31668103
Wolfychu EN3 so Ren and her can burn down both companies for their love

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>>31668133
>VODs
>Estimated hours watched
Literally as useful as reading tea leaves

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>>31668103
>The het shipping market is underutilized
>Not knowing that het shipping is a potential landmine even in regular streaming
the Jschlatt and Minx debacle is a good example of het shipping being a bad idea for streaming

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>>31667870
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>>31668041
I'm looking at them right now and all I'm seeing is a bunch of women talking about how they want to look at art of Magni getting fucking railed.
I dunno, it feels like it's the equivalent of pointing at a schizo in global and saying "see, they're beyond saving!" Or pointing at the schizo in here, in another thread, and going "see, they're the cause of all evil!"

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>>31668168
Actual 3d marriage stream, imagine the numbers.

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>>31668133
>nina

rumao

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>>31668129
didn't also that minecraft couple went to the shitter after the break-up?
would really feasable with an actor couple or its too many hours over the years to sustain? maybe a single channel for 2 vtubers?

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>>31668133
>VOD
>Hours watch
might as well post NND and B2 numbers

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>>31667718
>#2 on the list
>trying to read her name and not say "Shoujo Ramune" on reflex
>fail every time
I'm too far gone, bros...

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>>31668133
These kinda stats will never be useful as long as music and shorts get counted.

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>>31668213
>Jschlatt and Minx
Isn't Minx a lesbian or am i thinking of someone else?

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>>31667773
I really feel like people overestimate Magni. He can be very entertaining at moments and has some great ideas, but he can't keep it up for very long. Regis is the better streamer imo.

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>>31668217
They call the Wedding Merch "The Dowry".

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since Fauna aint doing much I decided to camp NijiEN to see what they actually talk about. They seems just as schizophrenic as global.

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>>31668216
“Brotubers” btw

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>>31668213
>he thinks people ITT know who schlatt or minx is
very brave anon

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>>31668301
Women typically want to fuck bros, anon.
There's a reason the Beach Boys were popular.

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>>31668298
why would you ever expect a place dedicated to parasocial relationships not being schizophrenic

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>>31668298
well don't keep it to yourself, share with the class

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>>31668292
she's bi and has been linked with jschlatt which led to both of their fanbases getting dirt on the other which resulted in a minor drama/rrat with past drunk/rape accusations

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>>31667488
I watched their first streams and frequented /mans/, but left when they started with ships between them and the girls. They hate unicorns and always celebrate when the StarsEN interact with the Holomems

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>>31667962
Can confirm, I'm an expat. I know to separate my numbers from my stream enjoyment, though.

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>>31668213
>Jschlatt and Minx
Literally fucking who?

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>>31668294
Magni will have big swings in numbers imo. He just needs to start pumping out event streams like the pancake stream and Pokemon stream.

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>>31668381
Wow, it has been an eternity since i was around those circles and the last time i bothered to care she was engaged or perhaps married with some girl

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>>31668298
You mean
>constantly dealing with some insane wackjobs trying to start fights in their thread between fanbases all day
like global, or
>super into their talents and literally could not give a single shit about anything else in the world
like global

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>>31668018
Oishii penguin cunny

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>>31668103
>"I wanna see couples working in the same place!"
Said no sane person... ever...

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>>31668438
If this morning is any indication, more like seething about the existence of hololive and /#/

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>>31668298
do people really come to /vt/ expecting anything but schizos? I used to avoid this place entirely because of how many schizos it had, until I realised how entertaining this was. This board was ruinedr like a week because Mori had a party

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>>31668265
I will fuck this boy.

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>>31668392
This is literally what always happens. Series like JJK are a little meme on /a/ because their threads fucking died after women took over their threads.

I enjoyed /mans/ at first too but the shit women like to post about HARD filters me from any spaces their in.

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>>31668433
I think she's still engaged? yeah its also been a while for me but it was the usual i was in a party with x and i got drunk and had sex with them accusation, didnt gain any traction but it shows how volatile pure shipping streamers are

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>>31668485
It's always fun to go in and do a ctrl+f for Holo. Literally lives rent-free in their head.

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>>31667744
It's the best time to actually post numbers though.

Here's the latest status for 1 million+ views videos - Hololive.

2 new members joined the 1mil + gang:
*Sana - with her graduation stream
*Roberu - with his dreamin'night cover

Still don't have a 1 mil + video, but are close (meaning at least 1 500k+ video) are Iofi, Anya, Zeta, Kaela, Luna.
Zeta is the closest, with her debut and cover both over 900k views.

Most changes:
9 - Holo Official - 1 stream 2 song 6 shorts
6 - Suisei - 1 stream 5 songs (all topic songs)
6 - Watame - 6 shorts
5 - Marine - 2 streams 1 song 2 shorts
5 - Gura - 4 streams 1 other (Fauna maid ASMR)
3 - Mori & Irys - 3 songs
3 - La+ - 1 song 2 shorts

Category tops:

Streams:
44 - Gura
21 - Pekora
20 - Marine
16 - Noel
14 - Holo Official (long song mix videos were considered here)

Songs:
49 - Suisei
34 - Mori
32 - Holo Official
23 - Aqua
17 - Okayu

Shorts+Other:
153 - Holo Official
34 - Marine
17 - Watame
9 - Fubuki
8 - Marine

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>>31668438
mostly the first one right now with small amounts of talk of the current Enna stream, I dont see any talk about Fulgurs stream honestly. Lots of talk about thread boogeymen etc.

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>>31668533
>JJK
Those initials seem familiar, but I can't quite remember what that is. What is it?

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>>31668624
Jujitsu kaisen (or however it's spelled)

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>>31668602
kek

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Nahone

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>>31668636
Wait its popular with the women? how?

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>>31668636
Oh, that series. Now I know why it seemed familiar, Suisei likes the manga.

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>>31668596
it would be nice to have a top 10 of Hololive song that are near to 1M views

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>>31668705
attractive male characters = shipping = fujos

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>>31668596 (me)
> I completely forgot about Tempus
Well, none of them have any 500k+ videos yet, not even the Holostars channel.

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>>31668596
>Shorts+Other:
>153 - Holo Official
Maybe I just don't watch that much shorts but I don't remember the official channel doing them

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>>31668602
>Fuck your friend
Ah yes, Mori's most iconic quote

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>>31668624
Jujutsu Kaisen.
It went from being an action manga with a fairly small but dedicated fanbase of fightfags on /a/ to Fujo containment zone X once the anime aired. Of course fujos get bored and move on eventually so now their threads are dead most of the time outside of chapter release because people just post yaoi porn

>>31668705
There's legit only like 2 major female characters in the series and 1 of them hasn't been in the manga for over a year. If your cast is mostly hot dudes you're gonna attract fujos

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>>31668738
>jujutsu kaisen
>attractive male characters

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>>31668596
I request an explanation as to how talents have acquired negative scores on this

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>>31668286
Updated it to remove shorts and music videos from VOD views, only VOD views on streams being counted not on video uploads or premieres.

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>>31668732
Just imagining the code is a nightmare, much less checking it manually.

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>>31668779
anon
>satoru gojo

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>>31668705
Shonen Jump is now the most popular manga magazine among Japanese girls, largely from them schlicking to thoughts of the male characters fucking each other

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>>31668782
Just to represent "videos over 500k"
>Somehow i removed it from the legend
fuck, i see.

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>>31668828
You guys use code for numberfagging?
Back when I was actively numberfagging this board as a whole by total posts per general, I just did it all by hand for a month.

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>>31668861
ah so thats the name of that bootleg kakashi that I always see
Fucking hell thats my younger sisters pfp

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Is a consistent 11k stream good or bad for Fauna's average CCV

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>>31668791
absolute state of streaming 10 hours a week

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>>31668791
They should have shortened what they said to
>These kinda stats will never be useful

One VOD view can be anywhere between 30 seconds and 12 hours of watch time. You have no way of knowing. They're completely useless in a vacuum or when summed together

"Hours watched" is literally a guess based on a metric we already know to be unreliable (CCV)

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>>31668791
Might wanna add an hours streamed column as well, since it is pretty necessary for the hours watched calculation you are doing..

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>>31668913
her average was like 9k~ or something so this should push it up probably ?

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>>31668828
yeah, I just thought it would be nice to give a little push to the vods and songs that are almost there

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>>31668755
Shorts as in short videos and premieres that aren't music. - Hologra for instance.
We started using the tern way before shorts was even a category of videos on Youtube so the name stuck.

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>>31668791
vox is absolutely dominating the shark.

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>>31668912
i'm going to fuck your sister anon

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>>31668896
>You guys use code for numberfagging?
Yeah, I think thats why twitch anon is missing since the program he was working on to collect numbers got shat on by twitch when they implemented custom tags

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>>31668966
The way this is presented looks kinda shit desu

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>>31668678
Meanwhile 0 mentions of niji on hlgg kek

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>>31668913
a long ass stream over your current average is really good

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>>31668981
It makes sense that there's no practical way to numberfag vtubers on a platform that removed the only way you could easily categorise who was a vtuber

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>>31668791
>VOD views
lol

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>>31668940
>"Hours watched" is literally a guess
I wouldn't call it a guess? More like an estimate. The way vstats calculates it is taking the average ccv of the stream and multiplying it by the length.

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It begins

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>>31668965
And do you plan to differentiate them? Or you just wouldn't bother with youtube shorts?

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>>31668981
I should really look into code shit to see if I can expedite the process for what I was doing before, then, if there are any ways to sort an archive.
For reference, this is what I was up to circa October 2021, after like a month of counting threads by hand.

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>>31667698
>the most bro vtuber
>gets the most money
the world is healing
today has been a blessed day for numbers

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>>31668896
Not for this one, no.
I tried the YT api so i could automate it, but it was shit and gave random numbers because there are too many entries.
Forgot everything i learned already.

Tracking these manually and i meant that even programmatically it would be hard.
Much harder manually.

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>>31669096
fix the colors of your pie chart first cause that shit is unreadable

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>>31667698
>gets more than the two top iLuna combined
lel

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>>31668791
Elira has really high VOD views for her numbers. I assume it's because of her really long streams?
Also unsure how Bae leads Holo in Vod views, over even Gura. It does show how hard these numbers are to analyze because Bae's VOD numbers obviously don't translate to popularity.

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>>31669096
Circle graph are shit with too many things, a sorted bar graph is better.

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>hologold
>suisei lewds
>yagoo shitposting
holopost
holothread
holoboard
now, and forever

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>>31669089
no, for the purpose of this i don't see the need.
They'd still be in the "shorts + other" section.

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>>31669160
he also gets more than the bottom 4 combined too
Noir is certainly something

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>>31669174
>Also unsure how Bae leads Holo in Vod views, over even Gura
VOD reps maybe
I do vod reps with my 2view oshi and almost 1/2 to 3/4 of the views in her vods are mine

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>>31668791
Is NijiEN the most watched EN corpo now? If the top 10 only is beating HoloEN then all 26 of them put together is probably like double the size on HoloEN.

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>>31669096
>I should really look into code shit to see if I can expedite the process
You should be able to, I'm not that well versed as it's not my main domain, but a curl and cron job could do the job, maybe anons who are more knowledgeable could come up with a better solution

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>>31669264
people moved on from hololive a long time ago. it's only natural.

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>>31669215
Damn straight

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>>31669218
Okay, keep up the good job then anon

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>>31669264
and it only cost them having one wave sell out to China fans completely

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Fauna 12k

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>>31669174
>Also unsure how Bae leads Holo in Vod views
It's because VOD views in a vacuum don't tell you anything useful
10K VOD views could mean:
>10K people watched your entire stream
>10K people watched 30 seconds of your stream, thought it was shit, and closed the tab
>10K people clicked on a source link in a clip, watched 45 seconds of it for context, and closed the tab
>1K people watched your stream over 10 viewing sessions
Or any number of other things that would all produce the same number but have wildly different meanings

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>>31669263
>>31669174
It's August only. Bae is getting views from all the collabs and Elira is getting from the Koshien watch a longs.

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>>31669129
They are seething about us again

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>>31669326
china is a massive market and anykara has an extremely close relationship with bilibili. why are you trying to paint this as a bad thing?

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>>31669326
Thats a smart move since China is the 2nd biggest consumer market in the world . Cover is stupid abandoning that market for some dumb streamers.

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>>31669372
kys crossposter, let them seethe

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>>31669388
>>31669389

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>>31669372
Why are you even surprised at this point

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>>31669388
>>31669389
Yes, gobble that chinese cum, bow to the chinese fujos and overlord Xi

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Yagoo you beautiful man

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>>31669389
>Pandering to china
>Not a bad thing
So this is the state nijibronies have fallen to

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>>31669218
Tokomachi is gonna appear tomorrow on Tamaki's channel. Migo, it's time to go back to Peko. Stop hurting each other...

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>>31669372
It's funny to see them seethe about a separate thread, but i guess the viewers reflect the streamer.

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>>31669510
i want this retarded cat to win a gold so bad

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>>31669510
Miko is for Korone and not those blue whores Pekora or Suisei

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Anyone feel like with how western vtubing keeps getting worse, Japanese corpos keep getting stronger since people keep running back to them

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>>31669326
I need some super erotic Miko or Sora pics that I can use as my phone background. Don't let me down lewd posters.

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>>31669326
It was the correct move. Hololive shot themselves in the foot when they didn't fire Coco immediately for her transgression and destroyed an entire branch just to feed her ego. And now Coco fucked off to do her own thing and you see where treating Coco well left you.
For the same reason, Fubuki needed to be fired long ago. As long as she stays at Hololive, they can never tap into the lucrative Chinese fanbase and Fubuki isn't even a big deal at Hololive anymore. She's actively hurting Cover with her existence.

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>>31668791
This would be better off sorted by either of the quantities, or color coded and combined.

Here it is, without VODs. The same two views you provided plus an extra combined view, plus the number of streams in the period and the number of hours streamed.
>pic related

In this context, at very least for the top ones, "hours watched" is just a rough proxy for "hours streamed" because as it's the product stream length and average, it is much easier to stream twice as much than it is to gather twice as many people.

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>>31669609
this is a catalogue shitpost

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>>31669648
Go back, Ling Ling

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>>31669648
Better dead than Red

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How do we save HoloEN?

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>>31669648
>destroyed an entire branch
HoloCN destroyed themselves by being mindless bugs
>Fubuki needed to be fired long ago
You do not talk shit about friend you fucking zhang sympathizer
Keep her name out of your mouth

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>>31669688
win or lose i will lewdpost selen

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>>31669648
>She's actively hurting Cover with her existence.
Meanwhile, in this universe, Hololive went from a 1.5M yen sales revenue in 2020 (deep in bed with the chinese "lucrative" market) to a sales revenue of 13.6M yen while completely cut off

I say the chinese market is not as lucrative as one would think

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>>31669744
It's simple, we nuke Beijing

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>>31669607
remember 10 hours collab Hoshi no Kanata back in the day bro. Jesus fuck what happened with all Hololive pairing. It's like management forced them to break up at some point.

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>>31669731
kys frogposter/wojakposter

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>>31669656
If what you are trying to find out isn't which talent is the most popular but which branch is the most watched then its fine isn't it.

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>>31669648
Who are you and why do you breath?

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>>31668913
This stream could singlehandedly pump up Fauna’s average CCV this month to #2 in EN just behind Gura.

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>>31669783
Hold on I have a copypasta for this

Repost, because a good /biz/nessman would never leave free (you)s on the ground, and a good /biz/nessman also hates China to their core.
>Here's the chart of numbers for the main HoloJP girls, August of 2020, the last month I can reliably pull data that wouldn't be thrown off by the controversy. I'll convert it into USD, because that's the only currency that matters.
>If you take the Bilibili revenue total and convert it to USD, it means that Bilibili donated $135,240 in August, 9.4% of the total revenue for the month.
>Now, I'll use a superchat tracking site to find out EN's numbers. In fact, let's just do one, Calliope Mori, just because she's the one that goes on /hlgg/ enough to take a shitpost and put it in a song.
>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/superchat
>This site has the last month of spachas, and from that one month alone, Calli has made $174,983. If we take the data for all the HoloEN girls and pool it together, that becomes $574,667.
>In the one month period since they have had Superchats active, HoloEN has lapped the donations generated by all of Bilibili for all of HoloJP four times over.
>Keep in mind that, going by the initial stats and converting to USD, All of HoloJP, Bilibili and Youtube combined, made $1,443,027 dollars in August 2020.
>TL;DR: HoloEN fucking obliterated an entire country's revenue generation within the same time period

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>>31669648
why do you larp

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>>31669809
grim. is holoEN in such a bad state that the green whore could be in second place?

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>>31669807
No, because you literally can't measure VOD watch time in any way with publicly available numbers, and most watch time on YouTube is VODs

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>>31669806
Chinkoid seethe

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>>31669780
ill join if I remember

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>>31669749
it actually makes me seethe hard that shitty off-model suityan is the most liked vtuber fanart ever over masterpieces like this

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>>31669783
>Hololive went from a 1.5M yen sales revenue in 2020
To put that in perspective, Hololive made almost as much in Pekora bday sales revenue alone in one month alone as they made THE WHOLE YEAR before they were cut from the "lucrative chinese market".

I say they're doing alright on their own

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Passed Z peak without the collab.
Fall Guys is fucking stupid

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>>31669872
But Rye graduated anon

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Smart for Fauna to get skyrim out of the way early. She's sitting at a really good spot right now going into east coast after work and keeps inclining.

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Fall Guys is a buff?

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>>31669947
Infinite fall guys bug sucks to play, but is great for numbers.

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>>31669882
You can't measure it perfectly of course but if one branch has way more VOD views and way more hours of streams watched than the other then I think you can probably safely say that one is the more watched cant you?

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>>31669783
>>31669845
An additional factor people rarely consider is that it's extremely hard to get money out of China
It sounds like a very lucrative market, but all the money you make there is basically held hostage, and if you do manage to get it out it's going to cost you to do it

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>>31669924
Wait i dont get it? Whats with the wario hat?

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>>31669648
>>31669388
>>31669389
>>31670010
>lucrative Chinese market
So you guys haven't checked the news recently huh?

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>>31669749
Chloe could be top tier but too bad the girl went for gachikoi way

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>>31670010
anycolor is doing a good job of that. have you seen their financials?

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How do we save tempus?

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>>31669976
It's usually pretty good numbers for Fauna yea.

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13K GETTO DOOOORYYYAAAA

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>>31669985
No, because one number is an estimate and the other is literally impossible to determine meaning from because of >>31669360

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if you're wondering about the chart, fauna is currently stuck in an infinite game

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>>31670062
Helps that she's actually good at the game

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>>31670056
Same revenue as Cover

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>>31669872
Quite the contrary. Ina is still putting up the same numbers she usually does, but Fauna and Mumei are inclining.

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>>31669985
All that tells you is that there is more of them.

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>>31669968
>Uno collab
>Debut watchalong
>HoloEN tier list
>Jackbox collab
>Outlast
>Unarchived karaoke
Honestly her order for the marathon stream is pretty good in terms of numberfagging.

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>>31670056
they have the same revenue as Cover despite having 3 times the talents and fucking themselves up long term by accelerating

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Is Cover refusing to give Council new outfits because they know the reveal numbers wouldn't be able ot match up to Obsydia? This would lay bare the sheer power gap between the two companies once and for all.

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>>31670059
It's simple, we nuke Beijing

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>>31670059
Get them the fuck out of EU
Make them stream buff games

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>>31669845
Oh are you from /biz/? Its been over half a year since I visited that place and also checked on my portfolio. Is Terra still going strong? I had 3/4 of my money in there.

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You flash Suzy your dick

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>>31669136
>>31669177
That's fair. I think I formatted it this way to more clearly emphasize my thesis of the project, which was that the board was extremely heavily tilted towards generals, and that the "catalog shitters" were a deeper minority than people were thinking they were at the time. But Bar graphs are better for actual stats in this instance.

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>>31670059
Vesper doesn't need saving, he literally talked about being a bike hobo in the past during his zatsu and basically confirmed he's strapped. Compared to that hes doing fine

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>>31670172
Bro... you might want to sit down for this...

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>>31670070
It would have to be some really convoluted extreme circumstances for a branch to both have way more estimate hours watched and way more vod views but still be less viewed.

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>>31670172
Anon did you also buy luna?

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>>31670056
Did they break out how much of it came from China?
I've worked with the Chinese market for a fortune 500 and actually extracting money from that market is pure pain even at that scale

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>>31670181
And here it is when accounting for Global. Again, these stats were around October, 2021.

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>>31670054
Anon I hate china as much as you but the Chinese economy will fall any day now is a meme same with US economy will fall any day now. The powers from both nations will never let that happen cause both economies are interlinked to the point that a crash in one will crash the other.

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>>31670197
?
>>31670234
Yeah they were shilling it in /biz/ last time I was there and it looked like a good thing to invest

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>>31670298
i miss when this thread was that speed

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People so bored we're getting the chink larps back lol

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>>31670380
all out war leak killed any hope of returning to that

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>>31670298
wonder what it would be today, NijiEN is much faster than in 2021 and so are we

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>>31670304
anon they are literally going through the same financial crisis the US went through in 2008 but fifty times bigger because China can't into diversifying their economy. China's economy is not going to collapse overnight but the days of china being the big fucking economy that doubles every quarter that you need to get in on the ground floor of is long over.
At this point pandering to the chinks is no different from pandering to say, Poland, and given the number of hoops you need to jump through to get in on China most are concluding it's no longer worth it

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>>31670402
People not biting everything else he's been throwing out so guess he went back to a good old method.

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>>31670020
it was some shitpost hlg whiped up because of some game Kson was playing involving dicks on the great wall of china, I don't remember the context but it's a funny image

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>>31669985
>>31669807
> which branch is the most watched
That’s a no brainer.
The branch which put out more hours of content in the same period will be the most watched as long as their audience reach is not too lopsided.

See >>31669656 again. Based on this metric (hours watched) Bae was more watched than Gura.
And while of course she was, that doesn’t say anything other than
>Bae was more watched than Gura in the period because she streamed enough more than Gura to offset the disparity in their popularity.

Maybe that’s the point you’re trying to make and I misunderstood, but if it is
>the more hours the higher the cumulative view metrics
that’s a point that was already discussed pretty much to exhaustion in this thread, when Amouranth topped the Stream Hatched ranking one too many times with sleep streams and 8 hours per day on a “hot tub stream” in which the water is actually cold and the tub is actually an inflatable pool.

It’s a meaningless metric.

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>>31670219
It would not, it would just require them to have lots of tourists who aren't particularly engaged, or stream more at more disparate times so more people happen to catch segments of a stream live who would otherwise have been unmeasurable VOD viewers
Take Gura as an example, we know from Cover's own data that only ~30% of her audience is in a timezone that can catch her live. That means most of her watch time probably comes from VODs, which are impossible to measure with publicly available data

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>>31670402
>larps
It might be larps but theres also a big chance of it being actual chinks since there were a few who were trying persuade people that cover going back to china would be a good thing and that it wasnt chinese who attacked hololive some days ago.

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>>31670298
>beatani general was competing with holosplits
what the fuck

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>>31670298
Man we inclined hard.
I hate it.

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>>31669845
>going all the way back to the October 2020 mines
Fucking crazy times, huh

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>>31668981
Nah, tags weren't useful to begin with because the JP and CN vtubers didn't use them.
I just collected 300 vtuber id's that i saw could hit at least 500 viewers and looked them up like that.

It is true that the script doesn't work 80% of the time because twitchtracker is a bitch.
Also, it can't return 300 entries. If you give it the whole 300 list, it returns 5 vtubers...
so you have to feed it 15-20 at a time, or run a script that runs the script tens of times and i'm not fucking doing that every day.
See you on Sept 1st for the August rundown.

It was pretty uneventful, numbers all going down because of the tag shit and no real events outside of Mousey outfit reveals and collabs with Connor.
She'll probably take the month since Ine only streamed 8 times.

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>>31670535
I remember participating in the chink wars.
Those were a crazy eight months, looking back on it

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>>31670520
back then a /here/tuber was actually an interesting novelty

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>>31670298
do people still use that failed hlg expat thread or did that die off

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>>31670546
Oh, hey Twitch anon, good to see you around. I guess Isegey is still dominating over there?

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>>31670520
>/here/tuber
>JAPANESE /here/tuber
>Japanese /here/tuber who ATTRACTED GOSLINGS
Literally perfect recipe for active (no quality guarantees) threads.

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>>31670433
And you are delusional if you think that the US wont swoop in and save the bugs especially when china tanking would also damage the economy given how fragile it is now.

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Magni and Nowa-oji bonding over being seiso

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Gura confirmed in Jackbox

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>>31670725
and? shion's concert proved that the shark is barely even a buff these days. she should just retire before it gets too pathetic.

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>>31670786
nijiseethe

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>>31670697
People said the same stuff about why war could never happen in Europe, the economy would never let it happen.
Tends to be a bad bet.

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>>31670644
it's still around but it's fairly dead

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>>31670697
that didn't stop the trade war from happening and you are actively delusional if you think china will approach the US, hat in hand, and beg them for money after recent events in Taiwan

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Further to the VOD discussion, let's take a perennial thread favorite as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE
This video is 3:43:48 long, and has 2,857,931 views.
This means it has between 992 days and 1216 years of watch time. There is literally no way for you to know where in that range it falls unless you can see the channel analytics. Obviously this means the number is completely fucking useless.

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>>31670644
It moves at the speed of most other general threads here but yeah it's still around
More successful than the stupid salome thread at least

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>HR Giger
BASED TASTE

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>>31670897
>its that vid again
FUCK YOU

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>>31670801
i'm just stating facts. she added NOTHING to that concert's numbers.

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>>31669976
Eastern/Central NA coming home from work/school is the real buff.

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>>31670486
I don't know why you are trying to use it to compare the popularity of individual talents there is obviously other stuff than goes into determining that. But if you are looking to answer the question which branch is watched more out of the two then it would seem the answer is almost certainly NijiEN. I don't really think that is a meaningless statement? It doesn't say anything about the popularity of the individual members but it isn't trying to.

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>>31670949
Go back to sucking china's dick more, that's more your style

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>$200K quote for QUEEN cover
What does that include?

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>>31670697
>The US
>bail China out
They don't even need to do that since all they have to do is continue feeding them dollars to keep their factories going. In fact, you could argue not doing so is better, not because the China collapses, but because mass-production gets cheaper for western markets.

Unfortunately, the problem here is China and China made sure to make just about everyone wary of doing business with them because they can lose everything to retarded policy making at the top. And this is even worse in the entertainment business, where you could be facing potential cultural imperialism in order to appease the Chinese govt, and they might still choose to kick you to the curb because of course they will.

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>>31670989
See >>31670897
The less frequently people stream and the more constrained they are to a particular time slot, the more their watch time is going to be determined by VODs, which are unmeasurable with public data

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>>31671033
Queen the band?

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200k usd?

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>>31667718
Ramune slipped? What? When I went to bed she had 50k within 5 minutes

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>>31671033
>>31671087
sounds about right since the beatles also tend to be in that range

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EN3 SOON

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>>31670665
as a group, yeah.
I don't have daily data, but no group is close to them at this point.

https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams
I still think Ironmouse takes the month, she's on track to pass 1.5 mil watch hours too with her charity streams coming up and Connor's cycling marathon.
Shoto, Ine, Lilpa and Gosegu make up the top 5. Viichan has a chance at it too.
Veibei looks like she got 2 gold, Nyanners 0. just not competitive anymore.

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>>31670989
It's a statement, but I don't know if it has any more value over the statement which produces similar levels of worth:
>NijiEN streams much more than HoloEN.
Now, I'm gonna say this and keep in mind, it could be completely off base, since obviously, VOD views don't really take time into account, so a lot of things get wonky for measurement.
But how about this. Maybe there's some value in a metric that asks:
>what is the ratio between a channel's streaming hours and a channel's VOD views, in a given period?
That could be worth something for a metric involving VOD views. Maybe.

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>>31671057
But if the branch has less VOD views by a huge margin its unlikely that is going to make any meaningful difference to which is the most watched considering both branches are going to be effected by that same thing to some extent.

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a waiting screen this long is illegal ccv average padding

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>>31671121
People tuned in because they suspected her to be Warabeda and immediately tuned out when she opened her mouth

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>>31671087
She can afford it. Marine has spent more on MVs than that

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>>31670093
isn't this fauna perk? being above the room temperature IQ on the videogames she play?
like council ina, but without a second work that sap her energy.

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>>31671121
People tuned in because of stupid rrats about it being HER (for a few different values of HER), she spoke, and this happened

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>>31671085
no QUEEN by kanaria

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>>31671161
proof? council can't even get new outfits and you think there's a new gen coming soon?

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>>31671121
Should have stuck around for 10 minutes to watch the crash.

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>>31671033
>>31671087
There's no fucking way she read that right. It's GOTTA be Yen. Unless she's unironically talking about fucking
>THE BAND
and not
>THE SONG BY THE GIRL WHO MADE "KING" A FEW YEARS BACK

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>>31671085
I am idiot
www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKFCaSz_yYCM

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>>31671033
That seems absurd but I know nothing about music production. Can anyone with experience chime in?

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>>31671150
>Beatles
>Kanaria
Same price range? Something's off with that

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>>31671169
No, because different channels with different demographics and schedules have different audience behavior, and again, there's no way for you to know what those numbers mean with publicly available data
You are comparing apples and microwave ovens with a margin of error measured in literal centuries

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>>31671168
>NijiEN streams much more than HoloEN.
This statement was still true before Luxiem debuted, but I doubt NijiEN was ahead on these metrics back then so I would say its more meaningful.

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>>31670822
>People said the same stuff about why war could never happen in Europe,
but that war started in 2014 though and the economy was good back then

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>>31671402
watame is NOT sexy

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>>31671311
But if the VOD views aren't even close to begin with theres almost no chance the effect you are talking about will make a significant enough impact to change anything.

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>>31671255
Isn't the post about the producer she asked to make the base for her Queen cover that paged her 200k?

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>>31668498
Looking at posts like this I will forever be grateful I had opportunity to watch Hololive back in the first half of 2020 before wackos and schizos latched onto VTubers. It was short but magical time.

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>>31671087
either it was 200k yen, she ment the animation and not the actual track, or whoever she asked was trying to scam her

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>>31671432
nta but how so?

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>>31671428
Switching to sheep posts in honor of this FAGGOT

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>>31670989
>But if you are looking to answer the question which branch is watched more out of the two then it would seem the answer is almost certainly NijiEN.
It is not "almost" certianly NijiEN. It is *definitely* NijiEN and I doubt anyone would dispute that for the exact reason I just mentioned: in any metric that is "hours streamed times <something>", considering you can increase hours streamed at will, that will always be the dominant factor in the output.

You can safely answer to "who is the most watched group of streamers" with "it is the one with the most hours output" as long as the other metric (average, VOD views in each stream) is not too lopsided.
You don't need to make a whole roundabout way to say
>NijiEN streams more than HoloEN
just tally their hours streamed and put in a chart, no need to multiply it by the average to pretend something else is being said

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>>31671428
Where are all the sexy Sora pics. These aren't lewd enough.

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ALL ME

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>chicken on screen
SELL SELL SELL

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>Kiara
le filter ultimo....

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>mori
>chicken
uh oh

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>>31671278
oh wait I thought they were talking about trying to use one of queens songs nevermind
that kanaria price might be overpriced imo

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she kept snot for jackbox mh

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>>31671087
Theories I saw in global:
>the person she asked unironically thought she meant the band "Queen"
>she's stupid and converted Yen to USD at a 1-1 rate
>she asked for the "orchestral track" and they assumed she wanted a full on fucking orchestra to cover the instrumentals
>someone threw her a "fuck you, don't bother me again" quote
>this would include a full on, Kay Yu-level custom MV and push it closer to VSinger levels of production cost than a fucking cover cost
Anything else seems downright impossible or like a lie, but I assume she wouldn't just lie for no reason and with no benefit to herself, so the realm of possibility seems like it's in those options.

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>>31671432
It doesn't matter if they're close or not, you have no way of knowing how much viewer time each one represents, especially for comparing channels with different audience demographics
I literally posted an example in this thread where the margin of error for determining watch time is 1213 years

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>>31671662
Not SNOT, Mumei overlaps that

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>>31671514
So, NijiEN is officially the top EN Vtubing group then?

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>>31671662
>she kept the people that stream at that hour for the collab at that hour
crazy concept

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>>31671033
There is just no fucking way that cover would cost 200k USD

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>>31671486
So lets say you have 1 group of channels with that gets 50% of its VOD views after the stream and another group of channels that gets 70% after the stream. If the first group of channels is way ahead on overall VOD views then even accounting for the fact that the second group of channels is more effected by this that probably still wont be anywhere near enough to change the outcome.

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>>31671761
Not by any publicly available number that can be used in a direct comparison, no
You're clearly very invested in reading tea leaves that tell you they are, though, so believe what you want

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Are we absolutely sure she isn't talking about the band queen

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I love this picture

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>>31671781
sorry i'm an eurotard, the schedules hours from this point going forward are a mush its still plenty from their slot yeah.

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>>31671894
She's talking about Kanaria's Queen. You know, the person who gives out their tracks for free.

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i lied, i just wanted watame pics

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>>31671894
No, she said in her last members stream that she got perms to cover the song and even sang a few verses

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>>31671271
Im not an expert in music production but the company i worked for before wanted to get a song from queen the band and or beatles and it was around the same price $200k + royalties.
There is no way that the kanaria prices is right or is in the same range

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>>31671698
aren't there some track makers among the chumbies?

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holokek status?

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>>31671447
Ah, yes, that magical time BEFORE schizophrenics were watching Vtubers. Truly.
No one would do something crazy back then, like organize mass raids against girls with reportspam, and cause the entire company to retreat into permissions autism. Inconceivable. Nor would anyone be posting cum tributes on girl's art tags, or having horrifically weird Discord Meet and Greets. Never ever. After all, it's not like the concept of "raiding with literal smart fridges" was a concept during the first half of 2020, nor were people screaming about Holos being "leeches" for existing near other Holos.
No, no, no, it was a very calm and mentally well time for Vtuber fans in the English speaking world. After all, we could all trust our good friend Lyger to be the sane and most prominent translator of the times. And if he was busy, well, the good old Chinese were there, that bundle of sanity they were.

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>>31672106
jacking off to sheep

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>>31671952
>PT 15:14
>ET 18:14
>GMT 22:15
>More burgers awake than yuros
>Still a weekday with work tomorrow
Sure you're a yuro

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>>31671761
If the "top" means "top in hours streamed", maybe they are, on Youtube at least.
I'm not sure how many hours VShojo are pumping out right now but if that is the metric to determine the "top EN Vtubing group" ironmouse alone clocked 7,269,623 hours watched
>pic related
in the 28 days of February, more than the sum of the 20 streamers in the picture at >>31668791 for the 25 days of August so I suppose Ironmouse could be called the top EN vtubing group on her own that month with her five hundred and seventy seven (577) hours streamed.

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>>31671514
>You can safely answer to "who is the most watched group of streamers" with "it is the one with the most hours output"
That just isn't true though. NijiEN streamed more hours than HoloEN last year too but they almost certainly weren't getting more VOD views and watched hours back then. It does say something about both.

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>>31670185
To add to that, Magni doesn't need money he literally joined to make friends. Axel just needs to get used to streaming, and Regis literally hates numbers and wants to be anime NorthernLion.

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>>31672146
based

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>>31672123
>the good old Chinese were there,
this, but unironically. hololive owes a lot to china.

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Toko 10k get with her morning stream
Koyo should follow soon.

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This counts as numbers, right??? 200k USD for a cover song... what's /#/ take on this?

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>>31672261
>>31672029

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>>31672151
you ain't taking into account daylight savings and i'm +1, its 00.17 here (same time as the bird, thats why is bearable now)

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>>31672186
>and Regis literally hates numbers and wants to be anime NorthernLion.
doesn't NL get pretty good numbers? it's been a while since I watched him.

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>>31672261
We think that the guy who quoted her misunderstood and thought she meant a song from Queen the band

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>>31672261
Inspired by Marine's video wanted something similar not realizing marine was shelling out 6 figure to produce it.

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>>31672029
Matsuri once said that an original song may cost you up to 100k USD to make. So there is just no fucking way that shitty vocaloid song cost x2 an ori song. Gura just being a retard like usual

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>>31672261
Seems like they were thinking queen the band

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>>31671199
lol no, Marine's fully animated MV was only around 50k USD

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>>31672123
shut the fuck up en nigger

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>>31672162
This is actually an excellent example of how retarded that comparison is
Ironmouse has more estimated live hours watched than both EN branches combined, but fucking nobody watches VODs on Twitch and she only posts clips to YouTube, so her non-live hours watched is going to be close to nothing
Since you can't determine how much of a VOD someone watched it's literally impossible to tell whether she's ahead of the YouTube corps or behind them

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>>31672261
By the way, I'm usually pretty optimistic for the Holos, but I literally do not believe Gura for a single second when she says
>I'm making good progress on learning Japanese!
Like, usually I'll take talents at their word but I refuse to believe this until she proves it via talking the talk

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>>31671255
it's Queen by Kanaria. She already mentioned a few members stream back that she got a go-signal from management to cover it.

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>>31672306
Anon it's GMT+2 if you're saying past midnight not +1

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>>31672333
Pretty sure the 200k was just for the track, which sounds absolutely insane unless she wanted a full orchestra or some shit.

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>>31672455
You just explained why its retarded to make comparisons between twitch and youtube not why its retarded to compare two companies that stream only on youtube.

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>>31672123
>No one would do something crazy back then, like organize mass raids against girls with reportspam, and cause the entire company to retreat into permissions autism
>nor were people screaming about Holos being "leeches" for existing near other Holos
I'm talking about Hololive, not sure why are you brought 2343 here. But.
>mumeiposter
>is dumb
Checks out.

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>>31672454
Don't forget your past, or people will remind you.

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>>31672518
yeah its +2 coz its +1 but now is CEST not CET so another +1

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lmao

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>>31672586
You're comparing the same data, the only difference is Twitch generally reports higher live viewer numbers and almost nobody watches VODs on it

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>>31671087
>200k
whoever quoted that should be blacklisted by Cover

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>>31672609
>before wackos and schizos latched onto "Vtubers"
If you said "Holos," it'd be a slightly (but not extremely) different story.

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>>31672455
well also that it came from a meme subathon where she became one of the most subbed people on twitch. The circumstances aren't normal

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>>31672316
Yeah but if you want to be a variety/roguelike streamer you're going to need to take your time developing your audience.

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>>31672586
making ccv comparisons for twitch and yt is retarded
vod data on the other hand is collected the same way as youtube vods

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>>31672586
It is not the fact it is on twitch, dummy! It is the fact that she clocked 577 hours in a month where the total number of hours is 672 (=28*24).

Hours watched is just a fancy way to say "hours streamed" when the averages are in the same order of magnitude.

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>>31672316
Apparently he has an average of 8k Twitch magic numbers and a peak of 13k magic numbers.

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>>31672162
For July 2022, Vshojo had 3 million 42 thousand hours watched between them.
Ironmouse was 800k, Zentreya was 500k
10 members, because Hime had 0 hours.

If someone can pull NijiEN watch hours for July on YT?

On Twitch Nijisanji EN only had 76k watch hours to add to that YT sum.
Mysta was 33k

Isegye had 4,934 million while i'm at it - 6 members.

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>>31672657
Why did she pick Kiara
Literally grab Gura and get over 20k ccv

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>>31672316
His numbers are pretty decent but you have to factor that this dude has over a decade of being a content creator. You can't just be a nobody and do what he does and expect success

https://twitchtracker.com/northernlion

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>>31672741(me)
Hours watched data not vod

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>>31672741
Okay let's dumb this argument down to the exact fucking dumbest possible way it can be explained.
When measuring a VOD view. One view is one view.
Is someone who watched a video for two minutes valued the same as someone who watched a video for three hours? Yes.
Can you reasonably estimate the amount a VOD was viewed, in terms of time watched, based solely on it's view count? No.

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>>31672825
>shark
>buff
come on, now. this isn't 2020 any more.

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asakoyo moving slower than the day ina was playing rust and choco invaded her slot with also rust

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>>31672544
Even a full orchestra is not that expensive. They are usually ~$100-250 per person per hour, so a small 15 piece orchestra is like $2000-5000, while a full 50 piece is still only like $10000-15000/hour. That's expensive, but not _that_ expensive unless you literally want the LSO.

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>>31672875
I already explained this, and the reply was "but surely VOD viewing behavior is exactly the same for every channel and video on YouTube" which is too obviously retarded to merit a response

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>>31669809
fat chance

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>>31672813
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/10706832/
NijiEN 6,285,678
HoloEN 4,066.096

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>>31672910
Anon, chumbuds would walk through glass with their nutsack dragging through it if they get 1 minute of Gura
20k is easy

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>>31672932
How can I save her?

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>>31673033
it's not even a fair competition at this point. we should just relegate holoEN to a smaller tally and have them fight it out with prism project and phase connect instead.

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>>31673076
JO Crystals

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>>31672261
what everyone said. either they mistaken Queen as in the band or Gura or the guy fucked up the yen to dollar conversion

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>>31673062
Meanwhile in reality La+ brought in more viewers to Shion's live than Gura

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>>31673102
I don't think you wanna start bringing Phase Connect out into these fights unless you wanna be reminded of last night.

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>>31672696
Not sure why are you talking about things in general when it's obvious I'm talking about western fandom when you check the post I'm replying to. But.
>mumeiposter
>is dumb
Checks out.

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>>31673062
why didn't the shark add anything to shion's 3D live? laplus added around 14k viewers.

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>>31673076
she hit 10k anyways, but her numbers are stagnating hard lately

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>>31672708
still don't know why they gave Watame an AK

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>>31672987
That wasn't the response. The response was that if the difference in the VOD views is sufficiently large I doubt any difference in behaviour is going to be significant enough to change the outcome.

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>>31671761
>SC
NijiEN > HoloEN
>views
NijiEN > HoloEN
>watchtime
NijiEN > HoloEN
>sponsors
NijiEN > HoloEN

yes

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>>31672825
>>31673062
She did, Gura is in Jackbox. Literally posted in this thread already come on.
None of this matters because Maria is having a karaoke which should be guaranteed cripple gold.

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>>31673207
>>31669263

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>>31672813
>>31673033
For the comparison to be analogous to what >>31668791 was implying both HloEN and NijiEN would have to be "cut to size", reduced to the number of *active* members VShojo had in that month.

That's silly tho, just say
>the group with the most hours streamed will have the most hours watched if the averages are in the same order of magnitude
and be done with it

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SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IRON LUNG

15K DOOORRRYYYAAAA

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>>31673189
She asked for it and bad things would happen if they didn't follow her demands

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>>31673246
the EN tally really should be renamed the "did nijiEN stream today?" tally.

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>>31673207
How do you reconcile that assumption with the fact that a single, one hour stream can have the same single watch hour come from any of these combinations:
>one person watching the full stream VOD
>ten people watching six minutes each
>six people watching ten minutes each
>sixty people watching one minute each

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>>31673229
Missing
>Hours streamed
NijiEN > HoloEN
>Number of members
NijiEN > HoloEN

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>>31673175
because she was later in the stream when growth was tapering off.

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>>31672708
>Watame was gifted an AK
>Botan was gifted an AK

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>>31673303
not enough to beat maria.

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>>31671761
>>31673229
>top EN Vtubing group
>mogged by holoID

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>>31673418
>Watame has an usually high number of vets and ex military that watch her

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>>31673405
cope. face it, the shark is a washed up has-been. she should have graduated in 2021 to save herself from this embarrassment.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHO5LVAvokDg5vwdDORf4gw/videos
>holopicks.
was wondering why i kept getting a Miko Peach video recommended with just 302 views.
Anyone else getting this channel?

It only has 331 subs, but it's clearly a rebranded clipper. Already has 2 10k+ views videos in the only 2 weeks alive.

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>>31673349
It's usually "did Gura stream and/or did NijiEN do some sort of gimmick/celebration stream" for cripple tally

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>>31673207
You're saying the same thing, that you believe VOD views and estimated watch time for different demographics are directly comparable, which they are not
It would be equally stupid to compare, say, Mysta and Pomu in this way, because they have different streaming patterns and different audiences, and you have no way of knowing from public data what they are doing

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These few days have been a downright godsend for Gen Zero fans here

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>>31673352
I'm not even arguing with that. I am fully admitting that does happen but I am making the point that it happens on all VODs. For it to have a big enough effect to actually change anything you would have to some weird shit like one company having basically nobody watching their VODs while the other company gets a majority of views from VODs. But in reality the behaviour averaged out across entire audiences for entire branches is probably not all that different so it probably isn't significant enough to worry about.

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how is Anya pulling those ccvs with rust

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>>31673580
If you're using the word probably twice in one sentence to refer to a metric that has a margin of error of 1200 years per video it's probably not very useful data

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Is it too late to save HoloEN now?

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>>31673618
She's JP.

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>>31673618
She's who the japanese go to when the main holos are offline

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>>31673637
You see what I mean though, you need to come up with these extreme outlier cases being repeated many times over to make it seem like it matters. Meanwhile in reality the actual behaviour of viewers across millions of people is probably going to tend towards being very similar outliers get squashed in large samples.

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>>31673558
>Azki streamed 4 times this month.
Just 1 more bby.

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>>31673580
>But in reality the behaviour averaged out across entire audiences for entire branches is probably not all that different
not exactly

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>>31673502
Gonna be honest, what's with these guys and obsession with Gura? If she is washed up, reclined or whatever, why just not talk about her?

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Sup, YAGOO here. In September some Holos are taking a vacation so I'm pulling Ayame from her slumber to fill the empty time slots. Enjoy folks.

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>>31673802
We removed videos from the statistics early on.
>>31668791

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>>31673832
Because a shitposter wants to get people to reply to him.

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>>31673580
>For it to have a big enough effect to actually change anything you would have to some weird shit
Not really. Different types of VODs bring different patterns of viewership, with ASMR being the most lopsided example out there.

Nothing too weird about that, different type of streamers will have a different pattern of live viewership and a different pattern of VOD viewership.

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>>31673580
>not all that different
>he says this when kpop stans exist
and yes just 3000 people coordinating and doing their kpop reps can get you 100,000 Vod views easilty

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>>31673899
Both companies have ASMR streams? The content isn't hugely different across both of them such that you'd think it would have some huge effect on how long someone is likely to view it.

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Of course, Cali likes the asshole in the movie

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>>31673879
you think stans will only do their reps in music vids?
we also did it in any vid relating to bts since it increases engagment and youtubes algo chance of picking it up

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>>31673685
>>31673686
she should just pander to jps at this point

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This stream gonna be great for Fauna's average. Might put her above 10k this month.

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>>31673580
Bro, for this calculation to work, you have to assume:
>an average distribution of demographics shared across all of HololiveEN AND NijisanjiEN
>that this average distribution of demographics all also have the same viewing patterns, distributed in another average
>no margin of error that throws the scale off (like, say, a Vtuber that has less fans, but more hardcore fans, compared to Vtubers that have a LOT of casual fans who will watch bits and pieces)
>the VOD views that are from viewer churn have no significant spikes or dips that would impact a viewcount
>disregard the impact of any clickbait videos that draw for clicks, but not length of time, or assume that both branches evenly distribute the same rate of clickbait content to account for the deviation that would cause
And that's just, like, me thinking for five minutes about stuff that could change the data here.
You have to assume so much, and take absolutely NO externalities into account, and at that point it's fucking insane.
Think about the fact that ONE CLICKBAIT VOD can throw off the ENTIRE MEASURING ASSUMPTIONS HERE, if it got enough traction in the algorithm.

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>>31674104
It worked for Petra. This is why Petra got 43k on her outfit reveal and Anya couldn't even break 20k.

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>>31674150
We are talking about millions of views over thousands of VODs here though. The sample size is huge. You would have to have consistent and systematically wildly different behaviour across all types of content between two companies providing broadly the same product for any of this stuff to matter.

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>>31674104
She did a lot of JP streams when she first started, didn't help her at all. They'd rather watch any JP streamer that's on than Anya. Rust is a unique situation she can temporarily profit off of but she can't shift her content because of it.

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Why are there Watame posts?

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>>31673477
She helps the ptsd

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>>31673802
is...is that a view farm guideline?
absolute shameless

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>>31674381
Some faggot said she was not sexy

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>In the last 10 days, Met had only 1 stream under 10k.

At least that's how it would seem, as Met looks to be instead a prime specimen for YT behavior analysis.

>YT tries to keep her from hitting 10k
>Has high Z spikes
It only happened twice that those 2 combined, and without the Z, she'd be stuck at 9.8k

Still, she has some of the funkiest stream charts
https://vrabi.net/video/1yGmvwNdSTg
https://www.vstats.jp/video/1yGmvwNdSTg

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>>31674133
>average
Irrelevant.

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>>31674104
not worth it, i don't think i've ever seen someone not hurt the audience that will actually watch the rest of their content by pandering to a different language

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>>31674335
>>31673802

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>>31674441
Yeah this is how they get stuff like Jazz on the Clock to such a high number. I doubt they loop normal VODs though, there isn't much evidence for that. Most of their VODs are not that high.

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>>31674476
I agree, seeing Watame kills my boner while watching the other Gen 0 posts.

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>>31674335
>two companies, providing broadly the same product
But that initial assumption. That's a farcical assumption in the first place!
They're both Vtuber companies, but the very first people who will tell you
>Hololive and Nijisanji provide two very different products for consumers of either brand
will be Hololive fans, and Nijisanji fans!

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>>31674530
We removed videos from the statistics already.

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test

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>>31673033
watchtime

January
>ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)

February
>NIJISANJI EN 3,972,676 (1264.1時間, 336枠, 平均3,143人) Nijisanji EN (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,021,167 (439.3時間, 146枠, 平均6,878人) Hololive EN (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)

March
>NIJISANJI EN 6,283,717 (1892.4時間, 514枠, 平均3,320人) Nijisanji EN (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 4,907,065 (615.4時間, 180枠, 平均7,974人) Hololive EN (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)

April
>NIJISANJI EN 6,449,716 (1983.9時間, 503枠, 平均3,251人) Nijisanji EN (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,886,364 (529.2時間, 177枠, 平均7,344人) Hololive EN (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)

July
>NIJISANJI EN 6,285,678
>ホロライブEnglish 4,066,096

NijiEN inclining...

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>>31674554
>>31674044

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>>31674547
gay

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16k faufau

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>>31674335
You both are talking about two different things. You yourself is saying
>NijiEN has more VOD views than HoloEN in a certain period of time.
That's true. It is also a product of having more hours of content produced in that period of time.

The rest of the conversation is whether VODs views are comparable. For the most part they are not, except in the aggregate way you are doing, then they are.
It doesn't make the comparison less of a proxy "hours streamed" comparison tho.

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>more yen than euros

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>>31674481
Jesus Christ, that's a funky graph and a half, alright.

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16k
20k possible in second collab?

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>>31674569
>~3000 average feb march and april
>Inclining
?

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[Anonymous No.]

Pretty normal day so far, nothing unusual. Always on the look out for when the ENs vastly out perform or badly underperform on normal content. Thinking about writing a weekly EN power ranking analyzing stream content and numbers performance for all 40 EN vtubers. Kinda like how sports critics do power rankings for teams. What do you guys think? Might just do top 20 instead.

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>>31674552
They would both be wrong though. It's more or less the same thing with very minor differences in tone and framing.

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>>31674569
in the number of hours streams at least

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>>31674656
who cares? she's a council shitter and she won't beat maria today.

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>>31674552
Of course they would, but it is essentially the same product.

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>>31674569
They added 11 streamers in the period, same as the entirety of HoloEN back then

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>>31674703
>he doesn't know about Fauna's JP oil barons

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[Anonymous No.]

18k GETTO

[Anonymous No.]

Another Z. Come on Susan stop being a whore

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>>31674335
Chihiro has an average of about 4.8 million VOD views and 1.25 million hours watched per month
Would you agree that this makes her more popular than somewhere between 1/4 to 1/3 of NijiEN combined

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>>31667718
AIEEEEEEE NODOKA I KNEEL!

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>>31674703
Eh if you add the other European currencies it's a pretty good turnout for someone that normally only streams at midnight EU time.

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>>31674771
You could certainly try your hand at it, but don't be surprised if it becomes an overwhelming task. Especially since you'd need some level of understanding for each of the talent's content baseline, aka, be a decently consistent watcher of their streams, to accurately assess causes of performance shifts.
There are some people who are capable of recapping and analyzing streams like that, but it's something that would take a LOT of time.

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>>31674771
Sounds like you'll drop it in a month

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>>31674914
That anon is specifically not talking about popularity, just about cumulative metrics proportional to hours streamed.

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>>31674914
I was never talking about popularity? I was just talking about which branch was the most watched.

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>>31674703
>no Rubles
I wonder why

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Gura ticked up, and also is close to the 300M views club

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>>31675008
>>31675019
OK, then she's more watched than 1/3 of NijiEN combined
Do you believe this to be representative of anything useful or interesting

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone managed to check out the "playback graph" from YouTube to determine if it has useful information?

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>>31667971
>>31667857
>>31667807
This hag became so seductive after she cut her hair

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Sora thread. Good.

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>>31674771
I'd enjoy reading power rankings but I agree with the other anons that it sounds like a shit ton of work for like maybe 10 (You)s

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>>31675101
Based

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>>31675019
Anon, NijiEN is the most watched. They are the most watched because every "watched" metric is proportional to "hours streamed" and they stream more, and also have more streamers.

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/#/ INCLINING, PACK IT UP BOYS

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>>31675094
That a girl spamming apex is more interesting than NijiEN and HoloEN
Pretty embarrassing

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>>31674963
It's still negligible to USD. The whole EU market is just not very lucrative for SCs. Even Kiara gets way more SC in USD.

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>>31675094
>Do you believe this to be representative of anything useful or interesting
I agree

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>>31675094
Yes she is? What is the point you are trying to make.

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>>31668217
Didnt salo- i mean debi did a marriage stream with a 774inc gal last year?

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>>31675231
>>31675177

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>>31667756
I hope we've redeemed ourselves

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>>31674703
It's like a 2$ and you didn't add the sterling

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>>31675210
I agree it is not representative, I mean

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>>31674771
dont sully this thread with your blog

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Guys it's not that complicated, they have more VOD views because they have more total streams, longer stream lengths, and more streamers (if you're comparing branch vs branch).
Here's a good experiment you can do: look at someone like Kaela who has super beefy VOD views and compare her with the EN numbers we have.
And then try to make a popularity statement from that. You'll end up with something ridiculous like Kaela being bigger than Pomu.

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>>31675032
https://files.catbox.moe/mynk6b.png

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>>31675085
It blows my mind that Gura is that high in viewership and joining the 300 million club. All that viewership is essentially nothing but stream VODs since she doesn't do a lot of songs or shorts. It's actually insane how well her stream VODs do. No other vtuber is even in the same ballpark as her. Not even close.

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>>31675231
That watch time doesn't tell you anything useful besides who streamed more
You could take Chihiro and Choco during an Apex bender and the two of them combined would outperform either of the EN branches by this metric while just making occasional autism noises to 4-5000 viewers who are mostly asleep

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>>31675019
NijiEN is "most watched" because they have more streamers and stream longer hours. If you haven't noticed, most people in this thread don't care about metrics like this.

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>>31675257
There's 10x more krone than sterling

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>>31675316
>And then try to make a popularity statement from that
Nobody is talking about popularity and specifically excluded it from that talk

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>>31675101
[Deleted]
Fucking snitch

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>>31675413
There's only one reason someone would make a catalog-friendly table comparing a completely uninteresting and useless statistic between two companies

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>>31675357
>>31675146
NijiEN also streamed more hours back last year but they wouldn't have been more watched back then.

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>>31675316
>guys
its just one retard spamming

[Anonymous No.]

sheep wins

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is fauna honorary nijiEN?

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Oh if anon is interested in bts stan behavior outside their mv then check benny blanco views

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>>31675316
pretty sure kaela is bigger than pomu this month

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>>31675509
because they had less streamers last year?

[Anonymous No.]

watamage strikes another victim to get last again...

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>>31675316
What? Kaela is bigger than Pomu. Kaela's floor is close to Pomu's average.

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>>31675519
no. no council is worthy of that.

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>>31675357
No anon, people definitely hold the belief that Kaela is one of the top 5 holos. Don’t believe it? Check her vod views and hours watched! It’s not like she’s streamed more than every single holo and had more hours than every single one. It’s not like the measurements used have been critiqued for over a year now at little it determines. I mean, who watches Suisei when she’s that low in views and hours watched if you don’t tag her music on her?!
Clearly NijiEN is bigger than everyone else!

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>>31674133
doesn't Fauna already have a 10k+ average?

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Fauna's graph is all sorts of fucked bro

>>31675637
Nah she was teetering between 8-9

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>>31675513
No you don't

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>>31675576
They still streamed more hours than HoloEN though see January
>>31674569
3 times as many hours as HoloEN and 4 more members but less VOD views, if you go back further to when they had 10 members basically the same as HoloEN in say November they would still be streaming more in total but getting less VOD views and less watch hours.

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>>31675637
no

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>>31675509
Are you just being purposefully obtuse or did you forget that NijiEN debuted 16 people this year?
Just Luxiem alone gets Council-tier VOD views and the NijiEN channel pumps out videos and shorts far more often than the dead HoloEN channel.
Even LOE channels have more VOD views now because of shorts spam, even if their game VOD numbers have barely changed.
That's before getting into how NijiEN has the best music numbers in all of Niji and is head to head with HoloEN's strongest songs weekly.

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>>31669568
Do men really like this type of body?

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>>31675400
of course the Danish got pockets
>image limit
fuck off, I had the perfect ogey

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>>31675728
>NijiEN debuted 16 people this year
grim

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>>31675637
Her peak CCV is over 10k, average is 9k or so

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>Not even blockshit can save Tempus
Holy fuck

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>>31675728
No you are missing the point I am making I think. I was trying to point out that simply having more hours streamed doesn't mean you will have more hours watched, they aren't equivalent. NijiEN still would have had more hours streamed back when it was just the girls but they would have had less hours watched than HoloEN.

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>>31675711
and they had less watched hours because they had less streamers

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>>31675711
>they would still be streaming more in total but getting less VOD views and less watch hours.
Because back then, NijiEN couldn't even get 10k on a full gen collab.
Are you forgetting that NijiEN's numbers were not even in the same stratosphere as HoloEN until Luxiem blew up in China?

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>>31675841
Do you see what he's up against? All the fucking tourists are going directly into Fauna's stream

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>>31675625
AAAAAAH DAISENPAAAAAAAIIII

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>>31675877
The number of streamers isn't even a factor here. Hours watched is average views X hrs streamed. NijiEN would have been higher on hours streamed even when they had less streamers.

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>>31675637
>8988 before marathon
>9354 after 5h

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>>31675841
>Doomposting 11 mins in
2.5k in 11 mins is very fast for Regis wtf.

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>>31675845
And thats what im saying
Luxiems stan army have different vod behaviors than you regular vtuber watcher

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It is extremely fucking simple.
If you accept these two things to be true:
>Every Vtuber has a unique set of demographics watching them, which may have similarities, but may also range quite wildly between Vtubers
and
>VOD views are not capable of being equally measured
Then you must accept the fact that VOD views cannot be reasonably compared without first having an accurate assessment of each Vtuber's demographics, and then adjusting their VOD views through a proportional sluice gate measurement, which gives each demographic proportion an average "percentage of VOD watched" number on each demographic.

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>>31675625
>[Deleted]
Snitch

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>>31675955
it is when
>>31675989

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Oh yeah, reminder about this,
>Image limit reached
Here's the link then.
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking?order=view_cnt_diff


Polar, the corpo plant already reached 300million channel views and is the fastest growing "vtuber", with 3.5mil views yesterday.

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>>31668791
The absolute cope in the replies to this post

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>>31676066
:)

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>>31675289
>>31675112
>>31674979
>>31674977
Alright sounds good. I spend 10 hours a day in this thread anyway and I love every single HoloEN and NijiEN besides Elira, Pomu, Finana, Petra, Rosemi, Nina, Reimu, Millie, Vox, Luca, Mysta, Ike, Uki, Fulgur, Yugo, Sonny, Ren, Aia, Kyo, Aster, Scarle, and Maria so it shouldn't be hard to watch at least 20 minutes of every stream.

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>>31675759
I can tell you this, from being a man myself:
There is no straight man alive who would not take the chance to go out with Suisei, if such an opportunity was available to them.

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>>31675841
>playing on Holostars server

This is an "unconnected ID server" situation where no one is gonna care. Shouldn't Tempus have their own new server?

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>>31675845
>NijiEN still would have had more hours streamed back when it was just the girls but they would have had less hours watched than HoloEN.
I think it's a pointless distinction to make at this point because it's not like NijiEN will go back to pre-Luxiem numbers.
They used to stream way more hours than HoloEN but couldn't beat them in watch time because their numbers were so far apart.
Now, they still stream way more + way more members + closer numbers to HoloEN so it's completely expected for NijiEN to win in watch hours.

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are nijiniggers really going for the vod cope here?

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>>31676187
Goodbye

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>>31675351
You might want to look up how many views her King collab with Mori has.

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>>31675989
It doesn't really seem that way. Their higher hours watched is the result of streaming longer than HoloEN members plus having higher average viewers than the girls. No need for any crazy behaviour to explain that.

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>>31676128
members too small and half of them dont want to play block game

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>>31675759
yes

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>>31676102
Not even this thread is gonna give the knock-off NFT Miku the time of day, they can go fuck themselves

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test

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>>31676128
They're on their own server, it's just already connected, unless he's wrong too.
It's been very confusing.
>Can't post his pinned comment because of imagepost limit

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>>31676226
Then I guess they can just dick around on Holostars server to not that much interest and maybe when 2nd Gen comes out they can start their own server? Kind of like ID being in their ghetto on JP and then eventually getting their own server.

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>>31676216
>No need for any crazy behaviour to explain that.
Or you just want to ignore the crazy behavior like pic related since it wont fit your narrative
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>>31675963
She's just artificially pumping her average, not really different from Ike's 50k karaoke.

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>>31673618
Hitomi Chris buff

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>>31676164
The point I was trying to make with the example was that this claim that "hours streamed" is just a proxy for "hours watched" doesn't hold. You can quite easily show examples of people that stream more and get watched less. Just a few months ago that was the situation in these two branches one streamed more but got watched less.

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>>31676263
stop ban evading

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>>31676294
They have their own server.

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>>31676187
Sora is way too lewd

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>>31676263
Stop ban evading

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>>31676281
It is as you said, currently he doesn't know how to get back to his server.

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>>31676311
Ike's 50k karaoke barely affected his average because it was only 1.5 hrs.
Something like this basically negates it.
https://vrabi.net/video/gcRyctCtwXI

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>>31676174
Like I said, there's only one reason someone would make a single-image table comparing a metric this vague and useless between two groups, they want someone to post it on the catalog along with "oh no no <x>bros"
The alternative is they think a metric that puts Chihiro ahead of all of Luxiem combined is meaningful

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>>31676120
i hope thats sarcasm

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>>31676296
We are talking about hours watched? That's just stream time and average viewers anon. Videos don't even factor into that.

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>>31676347
>Just a few months ago that was the situation in these two branches one streamed more but got watched less.
>>31675989

[Anonymous No.]

Council power level
Fauna > Mumei > Kronii with tits > Kronii kimono >>>> balls

[Anonymous No.]

>>31667613
I want to lick and taste every inch of her body.

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>>31675509
>NijiEN also streamed more hours back last year but they wouldn't have been more watched back then.
Because the average of their streamers was one order of magnitude lower than their competitors.
Luxiem changed that and now they are, at very least, not one order of magnitude lower

It is a very simple concept to grasp, both hours watched and VOD views are proportional to number of hours of output (and the number of streams), and also proportional to the average CCV of the live stream / to the average number of VOD Views said streamer can generate.

This second quantity is hard to increase. A streamer can't triple their averages at will, or triple the expected amount of VOD views he generates.
But you can always stream more hours and NijiEN does. That's part of the reason of their incline.

The second part is that Luxiem (and Luxiem alone) is a golden generation.
This month here is the distribution within NijiEN

>2271336 hours watched: Luxiem (40%, 5 streamers)
>3341774 hours watched: the rest of NijiEN (60%, 21 streamers)

A whole lot of what is being talked about "NijiEN" in this thread is just talk about Luxiem.

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>>31676454
kys tourist

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STOP POSTING FUCKING PORN OF MY OSHI

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YOU WON'T STOP ME NIGGERS

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>>31676128
They have their own server it's just already connected to the StarsJP server and he died which sent him to a spawn point in StarsJP. Now he's lost.