NijiEN doko?

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IT'S BEEN FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BASTARDS WAITING FOR

[Anonymous No.]

Cancelled. Please understand.

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>>3164392
They are waiting for cover vsinger, to ride the hype

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>>3164392
Hopefully mid-May

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>>3164811
so DOA? ok

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Can you imagine the absolute seethe if Cover and Niji collaborate and cocreate a English Gen?

No way in fucking hell though.

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>>3164392
Summer probably for maximum post covid views

[Anonymous No.]

At this point I dont care anymore

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>>3164392
You people have the patience of preschoolers. Four and a half months is way too little, expect it to take another three months at least before they debut.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN is delayed in preparation for NijiES
they have to block cover from taking the first foothold somehow

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>>3164846
>literally power rangers
it makes me laugh everytime I see those five

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>>3164870
I would love that. But it's borderline impossible since you still need some kind of decisionmaking hierarchy and two companies having a say what a chuuba is supposed to do calls for trouble. They could both create their own Gen and have them collab regularly though.

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>>3165063
Four months is the turnaround time for Gen 5, HoloEN, and ID2, so it's not unreasonable to expect NijiEN to follow the same schedule.

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>>3164392
It's slowly moving into NEVER EVER territory.

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>>3165063
it took 3 months and a half for Cover to debut HoloEN. They might even announce it on the 2nd week of this month.

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>>3165478
If I were cover I'd be pushing to make the announcement during the EN collab scheduled at the end of the week and have them debut the week after next, it'd be a great way to direct anyone who's paying attention to the costume reveals to the new debut

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>>3164846
At least they waited longer for the first graduated and then she took out Roa with her

[Anonymous No.]

After Golden Week
So May 5th at the earliest

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>>3164846
Isn't this wave one of the better performing waves? The weakest link is at 80k subs, which only a handful of the international branches have surpassed and plenty of older members still aren't even close to this number

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>>3164392
Trust the plan, anon
We're going to get them this month

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>>3164392
theyre waiting for VSingers to debut first

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Dunno why people keep bring up the VSinger; streamer VTubers and VSingers aren't even in the same market.

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>>3167876
That's like saying Mcdonalds and swensons don't compete for the same market because they serve different types of food

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>>3164392
Theyre getting enough NijiENs ready to match their JP branch. They will have 60 of each

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>>3164392
They’re waiting for Hololive to announce their talents first like usual

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>>3172390
No, it's more like comparing your typical variety show cast with your typical music artist. Both in the greater entertainment industry, but serving different aspects of it.

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The Chinese branch announced and debuted TWO gens and there's still no NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji is waiting for Vsingers EN to debut
>Hololive is waiting for NijiEN to debut
NEVA EVA

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>>3164392
Motoaki Tanigo and Tazumi Riku are in a mexican standoff with their vsingers and nijien.

[Anonymous No.]

Rin tits doko?
It's been four and a half months
and I still want to put my dick between rin's tits

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>>3164392
They never wanted to create another brand, they are just doing this out of sheer pressure from the investors. So they'll wait the max they can, so the hype is dead, the branch fails and they get to focus back on jp

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>>3165962
>and plenty of older members still aren't even close to this number
Only 3 are under now

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>>3179318
This but Nui.

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I mean, like all people hiring, if everyone who came was SHIT, that means there isnt a single person who was good and they just canceled it
who cares nijisanji's audience isnt shitty reddit zoomers that ignore the ones the group already has

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>>3165478
>it took 3 months and a half for Cover to debut HoloEN
They were rushed out to cover up the Aloe yab. The EOPs were on suicide watch between Gen 5 and EN debut.

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>>3164392
At this point, I went to see if it's even real.

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>>3179298
>>3179315
Why the fuck would Cover wait? It's in Hololive's best interest to debut the vsinger as soon as possible because right now they have market dominance and if they announce it before Niji makes their move they win. In the same way, it's in Nijisanji's best interest to debut nijiEN before hololive debuts their vsinger, because if they don't their announcement will get buried by the holo hype.

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>>3180149
The Vsinger and NijiEN aren't even going to have the same audience. A Vsinger is going to be an Azki type, popular while the hype is new, but since she won't stream so often she won't be near as popular as a proper HoloEN.

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>>3180149
>Hololive debuts Vsingers first, NijiEN will ride the hype wave.
>Nijisanji debuts NijiEN first, Vsingers will steal NijiEN's thunder.
You can argue they're aiming for a different audience, but that does not matter in the short-term since the hype works in both's favor.

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>>3180217
You really think she won't do standard streams too?

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>>3180217
buddy Nabi had 16k viewers watching her today and almost 100k subs just by being the mama of a holoEN, it doesn't matter what they call it, the vsinger will have the same or close to the same audience as HoloEN, at least when it comes to the debut. Maybe if it might differtiate if things really go the way you describe, but that doesn't matter for the hype wave.

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>>3180392
For comparison's sake the NijiKR debut could barely scrape up 3k viewers between the three of them despite 2 of them heavily pandering to nips and one of them to ens, and none of them have broken past 10k.

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>>3180330
I think she won't do them near as often as someone in the main branch. See Azki.
>>3180392
Nabi is actually going to stream regularly.

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>>3180443
That doesn't matter when it comes to debut hype, and first impressions matter alot.

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Is the Vsinger actually expected to make a big splash though? Assuming they are aiming for an AZKi-like, so it's a singular member with at most weekly streams, most of them either talk or karaokes with maybe the occasional gaming stream if she finds a Sora-like friend, I don't see them making it as big as other members, sure, she'll get the obligatory 200k for new members relatively fast but I can see her having a much, much slower ascend unless Cover hits an absolute jackpot and finds someone that anyone in the music industry should be ashamed for ignoring until now

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>>3180635
If only the Vsinger wasn't just one individual, but multiple. I had hoped Gura would branch out in the music industry since she has a great voice according to proclaimed professionals in comments.

I think Vsinger is just gonna be Azki. They're gonna be focusing on making music full time instead of Streaming, but with another talent joining in, you'll bet we'll see more of him/her in future idol concerts. He/She will be representing the EN side of an Idol.

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i'd rather them debut 5 english subbers for their official channels

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>>3180635
They're looking for the second coming of Mori, as in somebody that can deliver EP after EP in rapid succession. Work rate, work rate, work rate.
Even minuscule groups of English vtubers like Kawaii5 with their ~2000 subscriber girls have a designated singer (Isla Coleman) that debuted with a live song just like Gura did, but also a studio cover, so there's no reason to think NijiEN won't also happen to have a "designated singer" among the Hololive rejects that passed their audition.
>>3180860
>If only the Vsinger wasn't just one individual
I see no reason to believe this.
Pre-Minecraft AZKi's YT career consisted of this endless loop of chat, karaoke, studio song premiere.

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>>3180860
shes probably waiting to release a mini-album on her birthday (june)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZvtUDpR5C0

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>>3180217
>The Vsinger and NijiEN aren't even going to have the same audience
No shit. NijiEN won't even have any audience

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>>3181717
Funny joke

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>>3180217
>The Vsinger and NijiEN aren't even going to have the same audience
see >>3172390

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>>3179086
Why would they do that, even Azki herself is transitioning to be more of a regular streamer because that's where the money is and Cover knows it. Every original released by one of hololive's regular talents have done tons better than even Azki's most popular releases. Cover would have to be terminally retarded to hire a new talent just to mold her into another Azki.

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>>3165191
>>3165478
You realise the time it takes Cover to do something is not indicative of how long it takes Ichikara to do something right?

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>>3164392
Ichikara saw there's no money to make out of eops, they even kicked out the guy that was in charge of niji for the retarded idea of opening an english branch.

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>>3164392
Releasing more shit KR vtubers

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>>3182713
Newfagchama without Iwanaga Nijisanji wouldn't exist today

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>>3182713
On top of that he wasn't in charge of Nijisanji for the past year.

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>>3182004
>would have to be terminally retarded
How new

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>>3190725
Cover is dumb but not that dumb, you can't be the most popular vtubing company in the world being that terminally retarded

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>>3182004
Do you follow any VSinger? Most of them rarely ever stream or maybe stream once a week. Only a few them will stream more than once a week if you're lucky. Streams are typically either zatsudan to keep you up to date on music/life stuff or a singing stream; some will do some random game stream. Most of their uploaded content are either covers or their original songs. This is the state of the VSinger sphere and this is the space Cover has to operate in for any new VSinger; even AZKi only streams once a week at best.

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>>3197190
Who says Cover has to follow whatever indies are doing?
AZKi never signed up to be a streamer in the first place, she was more coaxed into it by Sora.
I think the Vsinger label was more to make a distinction of the type of talents they were looking for rather than the more streamer focused section that is Hololive. Especially since the Vsigner is going to get Cover backing unlike Hololivers who have to pay for everything themselves.

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>>3165780
>After Golden Week
when people go back to work and shit? lmao DOA !

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>>3175111
That would be extremely dumb, an amazing feat indeed but a truly dumb strategy considering a good chunk of the cashcows they want to catch (EOPs, dumb redditors, some anons here) know jackshit about NIJIs who talk english other than some of the NIJI ID members and that's only because of clips.

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>>3198125
Doesn't really seem like they did much for GW when everyone is home.
Meanwhile Hololive is at least doing costume reveals for JP and EN when everyone is home.

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>>3182713
Without iwaiwa seeds & gamers wouldn't be the same. he literally still handle same field & talent, the difference just company name. In short its kinda company split and he become new ceo

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heres my baseless rrat

its been delayed since the winners also got accepted into hololive and thus jumped ship

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>>3199063
so
Iwanaga good
Riku bad?

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>>3199073
>ICHIKARA finally done with preparations for NijiEN
>COVER announces applications for EN2
>NijiEN members apply for laughs, thinking they are gonna get rejected cuz involvement with Nijisanji
>COVER finds out they got applications from all of the NijiEN members
>They take them all (if girls)
>NijiEN members jump ship inmediately
Massive rrat anon.

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>>3197998
>Kamitsubaki
>Riot Music
>Live Union
>indies

But sure, Cover can have whatever EN talent they picked up from the auditions do whatever they want and slap the VSinger label on them and completely ignore the already established VSinger market that even their own AZKi is a part of. It'll just be disappointing if they end up picking someone mediocre who's not serious about having a music career and they end up becoming yet another hololive streamer girl. It'd also bring into question why they even bothered having a VSinger audition in the first place if that happened. Was already wary that they even did the auditions in the first place considering the EN VSinger scene is pretty much non-existent.

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>>3199073
Why would they leave to join a worse company?

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>>3179703
Only to immediately shit themselves again a few weeks later due to China. We've come a long way

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>>3199904
Because who the fuck is nijisanji?

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>>3199904
Because why not? Luna certainly more succesfull and more happy there

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>>3180418
>NijiKR debut could barely scrape up 3k viewers between the three of them
They added another gen? Why did I not see any promotion of this?

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>>3200405
>This is kinda the main problem NijiEns's gonna face, I know they are obviously gonna introuce themselves through social media for an initial boost but damn if they are gonna have a hard time snatching viewers from the already established Holos and the EOP pandering Indie chuubas, also mamas.

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>>3200740
Because you don't follow Nijisanji? It was promoted everywhere you would expect and there was even a thread here for the debuts that was up for a few days on top of being posted in both of the generals.

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>>3200405
The most popular company in Japan. Stop acting like weebs wont know what is popular over there.

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>>3201038
>The most popular company in Japan.
What?

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>>3200798
>social media
lmao. Their FB and Reddit are both dead af. No activity, gatekeeping fanbase, and they cbb to post 3D debut stream or nijifes schedule or gibara's graduation stream.

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>>3201442
how would they post a graduation stream when the graduation was announced officially for the first time in that stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>wanted a male
>started checking out western male chuubas
>they are either boring, or do cringey voices
i don't want a male anymore...

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>>3201646
I tried doing this and found much the same. Maybe if there were actually some good male EN vtubers they might be more popular.

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>>3201763
there are good female western vtubers, and good western male streamers, but no good western male vtubers. i wonder why this happens.

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>>3199870
>EN VSingers
I can't think of a single one except for maybe Bao

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>>3201442
>gatekeeping fanbase
There's nothing to gatekeep.
>>3201646
If you want to watch a male streamer, just watch a traditional one. The best male vtubers are those that are resemble traditional ones the most except with an anime dude avatar.

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>>3202029
Keep EOPs and spics out.

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>>3201967
Probably just the autism that comes with the level of weeb necessary to want to be a vtuber. Sure regular streamers are autistic to a degree but it's to another level if you want to RP as an anime dude the whole time.
Most of them probably have no social skills and even less of an idea how to entertain a crowd OR they think what works for female vtubers would work for a male. and I don't doubt that there's some males who only become vtubers for the prospect of getting close to female vtubers

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>>3202029
traditional male streamers dont do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDb7PGB5kc4

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>>3201038
Sorry I thought we were talking about NIJIEN, not the domestic market

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>>3200740
Nijisanji fucking sucks at foreign promotion or really getting in touch with anyone who isn't already a dedicated fan.

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>>3202104
>and I don't doubt that there's some males who only become vtubers for the prospect of getting close to female vtubers
Actually happened but Ichikara kicked him out before he even debuted because he bragged it in his real twitter.

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Any bets on one of the NijiENs being a Gura expy/designed by Nacho mama?

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>>3202624
It wouldn't be the most surprising thing in the world, there are a fair number of vtubers that share designers across the companies.

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>>3179703
>They were rushed out to cover up the Aloe yab.
No they weren't. Gen 5 were the ones that got delayed a bit because covid happened.

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>>3202624
It would surprise me. Not that Nijisanji and Hololive share no character designers (See Fubuki and Rikka) but because Nijisanji should ideally be marketing their uniqueness instead of their similarities to Hololive for a first NijiEN gen.

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>>3202029
Nijifans hate EOPs. They wouldnt let NijiEN collab their oshi. Except the smaller one that no one care.

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>>3203563
>(See Fubuki and Rikka)
Seems to me like Niji has a history of aping Hololive's top talent.

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>>3203876
t. Only been in the /jp/ Nijithreads
The Nijithreads on this board are quite friendly and allow clipfags and EOPs, the only time they're hostile is towards posters that try to discuss drama or rrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>3203897
This is bait but in any case Kagami debuted before Rikka.

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>>3164879
This honestly makes so much sense, waiting for colleges and highschool to end so that they can make sure that their debuts don't distract them from the multiple finals week in May to mid June across the USA, Canada, Australia and the UK. It also gives big celebrities and companies a more open schedule in regards to setting up collabs since they tend to have them booked months in advanced.

>>3203876
Repeating something in threads over and over and over again doesn't make it true no matter how much you try to do it.

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>>3179318
>>3179390

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>>3182674
Why wouldn't it be? They are the same type of company dealing with similar products and circumstances. If anything you'd expect nijisanji to be faster because they are the big company with the experienced staff

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>>3203323
No shit, it's a nijifag narrative.
Nijiniggers doxxed and harassed Aloe into graduation, lied about it to western vtuber fans and they turn around and spread their bullshit about EN being rushed as a distraction.

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>>3203925
I try to be supportive even though I only watch abit of Niji. Good job to that guy who made Himawari threads for the Revengeance playthrough. I expect Nijifags would get more hostile against clips if they ever get the amount of trash and clickbaity clips that Hololive gets.

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>>3205412
Take your meds retard, there are at most 20 actual nijifags on this board and the rest like myself are holofags. every negative narrative about hololive or cover on this board started from global autists shitposting only for actual diagnosed autists to then run with those rumors as facts since they can't understand what shitposting is unless it has an /s at the end.

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>>3209020
Even in reddit, where people can look up your post history and downvote you to oblivion. You have people who constantly shitting on holo while praising niji to high heaven. Those people who always post during every holo related incident while bringin up the previous fucks up copy pasta and bringing NRKM rrats to back it up. And you think its globalfags who is the problem? wake up retard

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>>3209020
>on this board
heh
also i don't see how the amount of nijinigers on 4channel got anything to do with the ones in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>3209157
Narukami is a certified Niji anti tho

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>>3205412
I don't get it. So Nijifags hate Hololive so much that they helped Hololive by bullying a lying whore out of the newest gen??? It doesn't make sense.

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>>3202305
Kenmouchi Toya became a Vtuber just so he could be friends with Mito

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>>3209334
>lying whore
couldnt have made it any more obvious, nijinigger

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>>3209294
Which is why its ridiculous, they are so desperate to make holo/cover looks bad that they use him to fuel their rrats while forgetting he is the biggest niji anti. And this shit comes from EOP nijifags. Now imagine what rrats nijifags from 5ch can stir.

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>>3209401
Congratulations for outing yourself as newfag. I bet you are not even there when the scandal happened and just discovered Aloe this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3209556
>nijinigger attempts to deflect the subject whenever they are called out

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>>3200798
Who are you quoting?

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>>3164392
>Sorting through applications
2-3 months
>Getting models drawn and rigged by artists who are no doubt busy with other stuff
2-3 months
>Model rigging
1 month
5-7 months total
Seems reasonable

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>>3205412
>Nijiniggers doxxed and harassed Aloe into graduation
Whenever I have ever asked anyone to prove either of these were nijisanji fans the best they can ever bring up as evidence is a screenshot of a guy who is following both hololive and nijisanji vtubers in an english language youtube comment trying to explain why nijisanji fans might be upset.

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>>3205412
take your med aishitter

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>>3164392
GW is almost over, where is NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>3211951
>why wont anybody spoonfeed me

[Anonymous No.]

>>3212244
>>3209752
>>3209538
>>3209401
>>3209261
>>3205412

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>>3205412
>spread their bullshit about EN being rushed as a distraction
But this is a globalfag narrative, I know it because I used to post there in around October-November. Why would nijifags care about EN to begin with? They hate western chuubas and this board along with the more friendly niji thread didn't exist back then. You're pretty much contradicting yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3211951
learn to search the /jp/ archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>3212434
If you keep repeating the narratives liong enough, people will eventually come to believe it

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>>3202117
this was pretty great

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>>3212434
>>3213066
This newfag is masquerading as an aloe poster. they don't know shit and are just spouting about 2nd hand rumors all while pretending like they've been around since August. in a couple of months newfags and retards are going to actually think that Pekora and Miko had a falling out at one point and people who were posting about those narratives weren't just shitposting for the keks and (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>3213530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSAz8MdwH0
there is a video of them trying to record the dance too

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>>3214222
>only there for his face
Poor Rikiichi. At least he did his job well, I was definitely watching him the most during the video

[Anonymous No.]

>>3202117
you're right
i can't see a western male streamer ever doing this but i enjoy nijisanji's 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>3202117
HOLY KINO

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>>3211566
Cover got it done in 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>3221585
Yeah and look at the shit they rushed out lol

[Anonymous No.]

Dad soon...

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>>3164392
Niji takes 7 months on average. For the record, Holo takes about 4 which puts both this and holoen2 in August, which will be unfortunate.