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31159191 No.31159191 [Reply] [Original]

Why did HoloEN stop caring?

>> No.31159252

>>31159191
Because they're straight and you're a faggot OP

>> No.31159306

>>31159191
>Why did HoloEN stop caring?
Why does OP ask this question a year later?

>> No.31159342

Western women are trash

>> No.31159531

>>31159191
Novelty whore off, the shock because of the piles of money normalized onto this is mine by right, and the routine set in, meaning also they resent whatever small restrictions hovering above their heads.


They aren't aware that they could be Vreactors like half of twitch, which is a way sadder fate.

>> No.31159579

>>31159191
they didn't

>> No.31159642

Why did JP stop caring about Ayame?

>> No.31161993

>>31159531
In other words, their doormat fans got the vtubers they deserved.

>> No.31162664

>>31159191
Because they groomed their fanbases to the point 1 stream can pay their bills for a month or two, so they only need to stream when they want to collect a quick paycheck, they took the Ayame route, we ended up in the BAD END.

>> No.31165287

>>31159191
Around the 1 year mark.

>> No.31165341

>>31159642
Wdym?

>> No.31165556

>>31159191
Because every time they fuck something up their fanbase great them like children that are too stupid to know any better. The girls always wake up 5 minutes before stream, are barely ever prepared and often late. It's rare when a Collab isn't fucking scuffed somehow and even when they stream alone there's a 70% chance that they're going to be bitching to you about something fucking up on their end. Even with all these issues their fanbase give them the "poor baby" treatment.

>> No.31165670

They're doing other things with their lives. This job is just a piggy bank for them.

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theyre nowhere near the peak of not caring

>> No.31170783

1/ Most of them burned themselves out carrying EN for a year.

2/ Cope's arrival did not mitigate any of this stress and as usual it was up to Ame, Kiara and Mori to do everything leading to burnout for both of them.

3/ Mori's UMG contract has further strained the leadership, couple with her pattern of Menhera, Recovery, Menhera means she more or less has checked out of the streaming side. She used to be very sincere with her fans, but now it just comes across as empty platitudes. Adding to the problems was her decision to resurrect her other music career, effectively tripling her musical output both in the studio and at live events.

4/ Ame's health problems and erratic work patterns have been downplayed as her "working behind the scenes" She receives no constructive criticism because a cult of personality has formed around her the "techie"

5/ Ina's refusal to end her "Priestess duties" as she promised she would back in the early days have led to erratic lifestyle patterns leading to low energy streams (low even compared to how she was at debut) and major health issues
which she can't seem to connect the dots, leading to long breaks. That and the long war she had with her cunt ISP meant that 2022 has been low effort because if the ISP is going to fuck her over why even put in the effort?

6/ Myth are 2 year in and they have limited access to their own 3D as most of them want a proper debut in Japan. So now because they set their sights too high as opposed to ID1, they are left in limbo stagnating waiting on a Japanese company that moves at a snails pace for their Work Visas, pushing back their expectations every time the deadline is missed.


Solutions to this problem?
- Council and Hope have to step the fuck up their game. They can't just hang back and do their own thing just for them.
- Myth needs to scale back their expectations and take a page from ID1: Be grounded in what your Holo experience is and that no matter how much fame you brought the company, you will always be second class citizens to the Japanese Branch.
- The hypothesized Gen 3 has to have hard working, ambitious talents that aren't afraid of taking the reigns
- Ina, Mori and Ame have a good long self-examination of where they want to be in 2 years because what they are doing now is unsustainable.
- If Japan decides that they don't care about EN and ID enough to get them into the country, then they both need more resources directed towards them to do their own thing. A studio for EN is out of the question but money directed Ame, Calli (who said she wanted her own studio) and Vesper (if he one day intends on doing something similar for the boys)

I doubt any of this will happen tough and I honestly expect to see Ina graduate next year with Ame moving behind the scenes and Mori leaving the second the contract is expired and that will be that for Myth.

>> No.31174439

>>31170783
>1/ Most of them burned themselves out carrying EN for a year.
Nijis stream 2x as much as them.
>Ame the "techie"
What a joke, Ame's dumb as they come.
>long war she had with her cunt ISP
Sounds like excuses to me. All of them have completely different reasons for not streaming. It's like 10 different kids who all have a completely different excuse for why they have no homework. Probably lies. We know these girls lie about almost everything, they're probably lying about this too.
>Council and Hope have to step the fuck up
Wow what a coincidence, Council ALSO isn't streaming very much. Just a total coincidence I guess. I guess a tornado took their homework away.
>you will always be second class citizens to the Japanese Branch.
True, hololive is deeply racist against their English branch and constantly mistreating them. The CEO is a short ugly little man with delusions of grandeur who feels strong ordering around western people he employs.
>Vesper
males were a blatent attempt to copy Luxiem. Short term thinking, cashgrab mentality.
>I honestly expect to see Ina graduate next year with Ame moving behind the scenes and Mori leaving
They can retire any time they want. They have all the money they ever need.

>> No.31175190

>>31159191
Burn out + management fucking them over.

>> No.31175292

>>31165556
>>31162664
Are Japanese fans any different?

>> No.31175373

>>31159191
Ina chose Chinese money, Gura doesn't care, Kiara is annoying and european, Mori sucks, Ame is lazy, Bae is australian and has no growth, Kronii is lazy, Fauna is ok, Mumei is lazy, RIP Sana and Irys has to record shitty songs written by Cover.

>> No.31175392

>>31174439
You can just say that everything you know about holo is from /vt/, anon.

>> No.31175933

>>31175373
It's time to accept that Vtubers as a whole have stagnated. Everyday new vtubers debut taking away a small portion of the audience, the main losers are entry -level vtubers like HoloEN.

No matter how hard they work or how much they stream things aren't going to get better.

>> No.31176321

>>31159191
Kiara was the glue holding Myth together but at some point I think she just got tired of organizing collabs between unreliable introverts and killing her sleep schedule. So she took a step back and mostly left the other girls to their own devices. This is the result.

>> No.31179560

Shit management and a majority of them are lazy intoverts and/or don't really appreciate what they have.

>> No.31179804

>>31175292
The difference is that HoloJP have management nearby to wrangle them back in when they fuck up. The JP talents also have easier access to tech support so they don't screw up as often as the EN girls. There's also a reason why the JP girls apologize profusely when they screw up, they know their fanbase won't tolerate EN's level of bullshitery.

>> No.31179897

>>31176321
This is definitely true, even though I don't like Kiara I can admit that she was the one who tended to plan all the big events. The rest of the girls don't seem to be arsed enough to do anything big that isn't Cover mandated.

>> No.31179913

>>31159191
The Sana of EN

>> No.31180029

>>31170783
>Ame moving behind the scenes
That doesn't have to mean a full graduation, just an A-chan type role.

>> No.31180054

>>31180029
That was my implication. It's a role she's far more suited towards.

>> No.31180101

>>31176321
As much as I dislike Kiara you are right. It's like when Council came into the picture Myth stopped caring.

>> No.31180483

>>31159306
This, it was painful to watch them early 2021. CouncilRyS breathed some life into them, but things are definitely getting painful again, across the board.

>> No.31180598

>>31180483
Do you feel better with the addition of Tempus? Or worse?

>> No.31180619

>>31159191
They do care wtf

>> No.31180864

>>31180598
We'll have to see on how collabs turn out, if they turn out. It was the big long season of Minecraft Mega collabs that really made things get really good once CouncilRyS' collab bans were up. It was so good it actually got me watching Minecraft streams again. As it is right now, Myth and CouncilRyS have been dragging all summer, in my opinion. Sana's graduation tour breathed a ton of life into the branch, but once that happened, it turned into business as usual, with the girls all just going through the motions. If no Tempus collabs manifest, we'll have to see what happens towards the end of the year, when they have all of those holidays to work towards and celebrate.

>> No.31180916

>>31159531
>the shock because of the piles of money normalized onto this is mine by right
The juxtaposition of Mori crying when getting her first red during Mad Father to current Mori which tells people to fuck off if they put a message in their SC since she cant be assed to take 5 seconds to read it is shocking.

>> No.31181010

>>31159191
>Why did HoloEN stop caring?
They performed at HoloFes and all met up for an offcollab. There is no greater mountain to climb at this point. As Ame said, "the journey of a thousand years is over". At this point it's the shitty sequel that shouldnt have been released.

>> No.31181081

>>31181010
The trilogy that only the first one matters...

>> No.31181188

>>31159191
They still the same, it's (You) are the one who changed. And it's ok to move on.

>> No.31181904

>>31180864
>Myth and CouncilRyS have been dragging all summer, in my opinion.
I was thinking the same.
>Sana's graduation tour breathed a ton of life into the branch, but once that happened, it turned into business as usual
Same thoughts. In the every end, it all relies on talents. If they are shitty or unmotivated, no amount of time can save them.
I think EN will not improve anymore. Tempus can go higher though. With both EN 1 & 2 being unmotivated and not united, the prospect looks bland for EN 3.

Up to this day, I was still shocked/puzzled that the highly anticipated Council ended up as a mediocre product. They looked promising in first two months,

>> No.31182827

>>31181904
Yep. When the talents are enjoying their jobs, it's shows in every aspect of the job, even in their solo streams. They enjoy playing together, and they enjoy good games. But when everyone is going full shut-in with no collabs, and they run out of games to play settling into the standard Minecraft/Apex filler, it shows in every stream, and it shows hard.

The Rust arc showed a ton of promise, but the girls are refusing to play it properly, and it's turning into Minecraft, just with better graphics.

>> No.31182923

>>31181904
council's great, kiss my ass. myth is dead weight in comparison

>> No.31183498

>>31182827
I think the JP girls are putting the kids gloves on for their interaction with ID and EN. Right thing to do for this season, but season 3 everyone in ID and EN playing now should not have this grace period.

>> No.31183679

>>31159191
Unironically? Permission issues and the lack of things to do on the EN side due to various limitations and of course no 3D studio. They did the best they could on their own (thanks for Ame) which honestly makes them based.
Remember when Gura didnt stream for a while, came back to play some random game and complained about game permissions and said "I JUST WANT TO PLAY MINECRAFT!" that was like a year into her "career", and you could hear that she was already sick of it. Even simple permissions like that were an issue sometimes.
I guess JP girls are just used to the grind and dont mind playing the same mind numbing shit over and over again. Like most japs desu because they are truly autistic with their gachas and boring ass JRPG's.

>> No.31184252

They lack solid connections to the job and to others. The JP girls all live within relatively close proximity of each other and get to hang out all the time and form deeper friendships as well as having better support systems as a result. EN is missing this element and there's no solution for it since they all live in different areas/continents. There's just no motivation for them to do better. Nobody to be in their corner cheering them on behind the scenes. Fans are not a substitute for this.

>> No.31184502

It’s easy blaming the girls but the reality is the EN management are completely shit.

>> No.31184548

>>31159642
Who?

>> No.31184673

Honestly all it would take is one dedicated streamer to breathe at least some life back into EN
Just look at Kaela. Even if I can't understand half of what she says, I can almost always count on her streaming when I'm looking for something because she does super long streams constantly

>> No.31185577

>>31176321
remember when they had 1 full-gen collab every month?

>> No.31185717

>>31184502
Managers are shit, especially the one ones above the personal ones, but you can't push all the blame on them. The girls have a hand in this mediocrity. They aren't innocent in these issues. The lack of transparency (whether management enforced or their own) and all of them using that boilerplate excuse of "ooooh we're doing so much behind the scenes we can't talk about!" is exhausted and no longer sufficient.

>> No.31185927

>>31185717
>You should leak everything that happens behind the scenes, even though JP does not do that
Okay...

>> No.31185964

>>31170783
You are right

>> No.31185975

>>31185927
Never said they should. Just that they've been using the same excuse over and over again and considering how fucking little they produce it seems like bullshit.

>> No.31186026

>>31185927
>"im soooooooo busy"
>*plays games 6 hours a day*

>> No.31186336

>>31159191
Paypigs will stay pay.

>> No.31186486

>>31162664
Ayame hasn't streamed in like 70 days but she still got thousands of subs getting renewed every month. Now that is the life.

>> No.31186579

they got their contract renewals and can now coast

>> No.31186637

>>31176321
Not to mention her hard work doesn't pay. She still has lowest subs, viewership and everything. If people don't like you then they'll still won't like you no matter what you do.

>> No.31186842

>>31181904
I'm not too thrilled about EN3 and getting a bunch of more lazy bitches or even worse... More Moris/Baes/Ollies types.

>> No.31186898

>>31186637
At this point she's just vacationing on KFP's dollar, and doing clipshows of her vacation pics. It's starting to get into "Professional Instagram Thot" territory, though, otherwise it'd be kinda based. I wish I could make a living vacationing on someone else's money.

>> No.31187105

>>31165556
The scuff is soul

>>31181904
Permissions fuck everything into the ground, there's lot a lot of "group" games, and those that are have been played out for years and were never good to begin with.

>>31186842
It'll probably be make or break. I'd like to believe they can recognize the issues and be the instigating glue myth and cope need them to be to save EN.

>> No.31187449

Why do people have high hopes for the homos aren't they already stagnating even with buffs or did I miss something?

>> No.31187538

>>31187449
Don't watch homo, but I heard they are getting 5k ccv on average. Insanely impressive if true, given that whole vt said it will be dead on arrival

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>>31159191
Why do you care? It's girls playing games bro and they don't even play characters outside of using the names unlike the old days like most they do with ''play characters'' is act a bit more fake on stream vs actually playing a character.

>> No.31187727

>>31187626
Until Cover forced Sana to kneel and executed her they weren't even playing games.

>> No.31187848

I think Cover has been too lenient toward Myth, which led to lazyness and affect the way Cope's work altitude

>> No.31187905

>>31187538
I mean notsana hit 8k ccv, is 5k is like meh with all the buffs the have atm but idk idc homos are homo

>> No.31187940

>>31159191
Western

>> No.31188134

>>31170783
>Myth needs to scale back their expectations and take a page from ID1
Really? The burned out girls need to learn from the gen that has 2/3 members completely checked out?

>> No.31188360

>>31188134
1/3 casts a large CHADow

>> No.31188421

>>31188134
I have never seen the ID girls getting their hopes up for debut in Japan every other month then loudly proclaiming it on streams that it's going to happen.

>> No.31188608

>>31184252
So EN3 needs to all live in the same city? That's actually a really good idea.

>> No.31188771

>>31184252
this is the actual answer. the fact of the matter is functionally most of these girls are just solo streamers attached to a brand name and don't have any particularly strong incentive to be more than that most of the time.

look at how good everything surrounding the recent off collab was and how good everything is whenever they visit each other.

cover getting their shit together and actually being able to get the girls into japan regularly is probably the only thing that will change things.

>> No.31188785

>>31159191
They dont actually care about being good streamers and they noticed that they dont even have to pretend

>> No.31188894 [DELETED] 

Simple because they know westerners are cucks who won't hold them accountable for their bullshit so they figured they could either go silent and stream 1 a week like gura or put minimal effort into your job and still make thousands of dollars every month. Because cucks buy merch and can't stop supporting and enabling them doing it.

>> No.31189313

>>31188894
You're not the target audience

>>31184252
It'd help a lot yeah. Sleep autism aside, it's really, really not helped that their small number is badly broken up and for some reason twice in a row they hired mostly introvert soloists when building up an ensemble helps pull everything together.

>> No.31189529 [DELETED] 

>>31189313
If not being the targeted audience means I'm not a conditioned incel brainwashed retard I'll take it.

>> No.31189542

Did they ever

>> No.31189589

>>31189529
It's a good thing to win to be honest and you still get that 1 stream a week whenever it actually happens instead of living on her twitter 24/7 praying for a stream that wont come.

>> No.31189775

Ina literally just needs to go back to art streams

>> No.31192393

>>31189775
>>31159191
Ina... save us...

>> No.31192662

>>31188421
Yeah, but Risu and Iofi stream even less than most of EN.

>> No.31192931

>>31185717
>boilerplate excuse of "ooooh we're doing so much behind the scenes we can't talk about!"
Most of them deliver when they do said that they're working on behind the scene stuff, Mumei, Mori, Ame, Kiara always does, for example.

>> No.31196287

>>31192662
Isn't the real difference between ID/EN and JP that the ID/EN talents besides Kiara treat their Vtubing as a (very lucrative) side gig whereas for the JPs it's their career. Even JP rm material comes across as a hobby they maintain.

>> No.31196580

>>31187848
I mean, EN fans rewarded laziness by making Gura the most popular, so of course the next ones are going to copy Gura

>> No.31197631

>>31159191
Might have been the 3D fiasco as the final straw
>OK so 3D!
>Oh you don't have a studio near you? Ame can make one out of cardboard and duct tape
>Oh it's going to take 3 days to fix
>Oh we're busy on HoloX's 3D debuts I guess we can't edit your 3D footage, Gura and Kiara.
>Oh you thought you could stream this? Lol permissions have changed lol

>> No.31200082

>>31170783
Mori is better to just graduate and pursue a better career that she has established.
Ina should also graduate and invest the money to become an actual artist.
Ame could either join Vshojo or try her luck on building a new vtubing company.

Their time is over as soon as Gen 3 come in. It's better to graduate when things are still relatively stable and no drama. The best time to leave is when they're still relevant.

As for Council, try to take the lead and start thinking about how do you want the HoloEN to be? You clearly can't rely on Myth anymore since they're no longer relevant. Don't just passively streaming like you're an employee. This is the reason why most of you burned yourselves out.

Take a look at HoloID, whenever they open Minecraft, for example, they always have purpose because someone is brave enough to take the role of the leader and actually does things. This is easier for everyone to cooperate and to have fun while doing a project.

Try to generate ideas, make events, do some collaborative projects.

>> No.31204174

>>31159191
When you started giving them money

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It's sad that Tempus is out streaming them on a daily basis.

>> No.31204388

>>31187626
Kaguya Luna is not that different to it's next/previous life.

>> No.31205080

>>31159191
shit management
lazy talents
white knights
paypigs

>> No.31207211

Don't worry Ina is almost finished moving and now she just has to transfer her business ISP line...

>> No.31208213

>>31159191
If the ride is free, regardless what you do, why care? The fans sure don't.
There are better vtubers if you want someone who's out to impress and improve

>> No.31208623

>>31159191
they dont want to burnt out like ame in the past so yeah

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Ina never cared in the first place.
Mori only cared about furthering her music.
Kiara cares the most but as people have said she can't be the only one always pushing for collabs and leading things.
Ame tummy hort and other shit.
Gura I have no idea what the fuck is going on, maybe just laziness.
Irys was good at first but is forced to churn out shit songs by Cover so she's burnt out
Council was shit from the beginning, maybe because later Myth was so lazy although they seem to have gotten even lazier after Council debuted so maybe it feeds into each other.

The problem is you need to hire girls who actually enjoy streaming. EN is a bunch of girls who enjoy gaming or singing but don't enjoy doing it in front of an audience as much, except for Kiara maybe. Like in JP and ID you have girls who are physically unhappy if they aren't streaming like Kaela, Koyori, Watame, etc. While EN doesn't have to go THAT far, although it would be nice, how many times has an EN talked about how they don't want to play a game on stream because it's different, or it's a performance, or you have to think about filling the dead air? Off the top of my head I remember Ina, Ame, Gura, Kronii, and Mumei saying that or similar things. To EN streaming is a job, a chore.

>> No.31209886

>>31183679
Cover is just really shit at permissions. You can look at how little their available games have grown this year. And instead of being more proactive about getting game permissions, they seem to just wait until a talent pushes for it. And a talent has to really push for it and hope they get lucky that management actually gives enough of a fuck to get them.

Then you have moments like Science Adventure burning it's bridge with Cover by copystriking Rio and badmouthing vtubers as a whole. It's easier to just watch Niji or indies at this point.

Only person doing new not fad content is Subaru. Besides her I've only been watching Tempus and Reine since she's the only one in all of Holopro who will touch VN games.

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>>31209619
>how many times has an EN talked about how they don't want to play a game on stream because it's different, or it's a performance
The wanting to play some games offstream to relax is a pretty universal thing. Even Okayu does this, and she's one of the biggest streaming addicts in JP.

After watching content creators for a long time I've found it very common for full time streamers to talk about how they don't enjoy games much anymore and how they don't spend their free time on that hobby anymore, but holos arent like that and I think that's a great thing honestly.
If being happier lowers the stream hours I don't care because my oshi's happiness is my happiness.

>> No.31212556

>>31209619
>don't want to play a game on stream because it's different, or it's a performance, or you have to think about filling the dead air
those are all good things to consider though, everyone gets to decide the tradeoffs of background noise and engaging content, not everyone needs to be like kaela or watame

>> No.31214087

>>31184252
I completely agree. They would have better chemistry with each other and probably be mentally healthier and happier if they all got to see each other in real life on a regular basis. I get the impression most of them are complete shut-ins, and that shit catches up with you eventually no matter how comfortable it might be in the moment. Speaking from experience.

>> No.31214314

They realized they can do the bare minimum and still be successful. As long as they are in hololive and have a pulse they'll be ok and to be honest I can't blame them.

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>>31159191
Better question, when will people realize they're posting on a containment board and stop falling for obvious bait?

>> No.31217728

>>31217128
Why is Mumei being called Jeb

>> No.31220636

>>31214087
>>31184252
How can future EN branches fix this though? Actually get everyone to relocate into some trending tech startup hive city?

>> No.31221865

>>31176321
Holo needs to stop hiring autists and introverts....nowadays a BIG event in holo EN is a fucking amongus colab. You can easily organize that shit with a everyone tag on a discord channel, if you deal with normal people of course.

>> No.31222477

>>31159531
Pretty spot on

>> No.31222954

Has Ame dropped any of the rewards for the Charity thing she did? I know she hasn't delivered on the voice packs. Kind of a really fucked up thing to do. When Number One Gosling Kiara called her out about it you know something was off.

>> No.31223753

>>31161993
Why yes, I do watch JP despite my Japanese being awful.

>> No.31223818

>>31220636
The next wave of girls has it in their contract that they have to move into the same city as each other.

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>>31180864
Unironically the early MC colabs brought out the best of the council.

>> No.31224765

>>31224367
The timezone shit really didn't help Council.

>Uhhh three of you are US timezones
>And two of you are fucking Australia

There's almost a 12 hour difference. Bae and Sana were a mistake. Bae should've been rolled into JP provided she could speak it well enough, and Sana should've never been.

>> No.31224842

>>31159191
>vtuber superstars since debut
Why would they care?

>> No.31225568

>>31224765
Maybe a HoloAus could work, but Bae and Sana really got thrown to the wolves with the time zones.

>> No.31225674

>>31225568
If I were Bae I'd be practising the fuck out of Nihongo and working with the JP/ID members as much as possible.

>> No.31225840

>>31174439
>Nijis stream 2x as much as them.
This is the only true statement in your post.

>> No.31229436

They get bored, it's that simple, with the restrictive permissions they always have to do the same shit and that tires them out, if only they had a little more creative freedom they would at least put a little more emotion into the shit they do, besides that, what else are they going to do? They already did everything, they got together and to be honest that was the end of the road.

>> No.31229566

>>31159531

I wonder how many hours they log into this job off stream

>> No.31229794

>>31229436
is it time to graduate them and move on to new talents?
like a new season of precure or kamen rider

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>>31159191
>using the famed chicken noddle soup vtuber for your shit bait
https://streamable.com/ddanoj
she gonna beat your ass up

>> No.31230911

>>31182923
Council was huge disappointment after Myth, really thought Cover could pull off the magic again but alas, it was a big dud.

>> No.31234822

>>31186637
Please man tell her to lose that stupid voice. I've tried so many times to watch her, but get filtered very hard.

>> No.31234957

>>31225840
>10 holoEN talents
>10 different, completely unique excuses for never streaming
Wow what "bad luck". I'm sure it's all just a completely coincidence.

It's amazing that you believe everything these people tell you without even thinking for one moment.

>> No.31235213

If you want HoloEN to improve, then stop watching them, stop buying merch, stop sending superchats, and so on. Show them with your actions, not with complaints on this board, that they need to work harder and innovate rather than resting on their laurels.

>> No.31235430

>>31235213
This. There's other stuff out there to watch now. Why are holobronies so stubborn?

>> No.31236221

>>31235213
>stop sending superchats
To begin with I have never understood the need to send Superchats to people who are filthy rich, there is literally no need, they are well known enough to be for "support" literally if you don't donate to them there will be a thousand others who will besides that they win much more with what they do outside of streaming than with the donations they make to it, plus they don't give a damn who sends it to them, that is, they won't remember you and in the worst case they won't even They will read them.

>> No.31237544

>>31159191
CouncilRyS are in an all time low morale, they got too comfy relying on Myth on their first few months and just now are trying to put effort into what they do.

Myth hit a dead end in their careers, they got what they wanted. There's nothing left for them as a side branch, so naturally they aspire to have the same treatment as JP, but this will never happen no matter how hard they try so they just do whatever.

>> No.31237898

>>31237544
>this will never happen no matter how hard they try so they just do whatever.
People in that position either blow the whistle or quit and switch jobs, though. Unless literally every girl in Myth is a doormat OK with being treated as second class by racist nips, this rrat makes no sense once you think about it a bit.

>> No.31239269

>>31237898
If anything they'd go indie, cause the other two alternatives are
>The same but with less clout
>Literal career suicide

>> No.31239772
File: 71 KB, 722x1102, HE'S MY FRIEND HE'S MY ALIBI MY ACCESSORY TO THE CRIME Tempus [sound=files.catbox.moe%2F44kggt.mp3].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
31239772

>Myth
They have been running for 2 years if they want to slow down let them they don't have anything to prove to anyone they are still the only holo gen with all 5 member at 1 million subs and will always be seen as being responsible for creating the EN Vtubing scene.

>Cope
Tons of issues. Had to follow one of the most influential group of vtubers, were shown up by Nijisanji Luxiem and HoloX. Sana essentially Soft Graduated early on fucking up a ton of plans and then actually graduated when the damage was done. Never had the chip on their shoulder like Myth did. This all being said SNOT has been doing heavy lifting since Sana graduated.

>Tempus
Yeah they fucking count they are HoloEN YA NONCE! DA FUCKING BOYS! BLESS DEM BOYS DEY PLAN TA STREAM IN DEADHOURS AND EVEN FILL EMPTY SPOTS BECAUSE THEY ARE BROS! LOVE ME BOYS!

>> No.31241321

>>31180598
NTA but I feel like Tempus could revitalize Mori a bit as she gets to express a side of herself that doesn't gel with the girls as much.
I seriously suggesting watching her Collab with Magni, she feels like a different person somewhat.

>> No.31241713

>>31224765
>Skipping EU
And you wonder why she doesn't care anymore

>> No.31241876

>>31241321
Mori and homos hard pass

>> No.31242240

>>31241876
Mori should just migrate into Homo at this point. The only things that would change is that the people who hate Mori could sleep better and it in turn would liberate the other from the shackles of being in MYTH. All the colabs that would happen will still happen but the dead end is gone.

>> No.31242266

>>31241321
Sounds like a sincere suggestion but this >>31241876
Mori used to be good at one point back then. Nothing against male vtubers but Tempus is pretty mediocre for me. Maybe they are very entertaining to female audiences. Incidentally I enjoy watching male fleshtubers.

>> No.31243228

>>31159191
They never cared anon

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