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31109610 No.31109610 [Reply] [Original]

Give me one (1) GOOD reason why fujobaiting is wrong or bad. Just one.

"Because I don't like it" is not a good reason.

>> No.31109660

>>31109610
Because I don't like it

>> No.31109665
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31109665

Women like it, and women donate a lot of money. It's that simple

>> No.31109678 [SPOILER] 
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31109678

>> No.31109727

>>31109665
They told me women would never spend money on vtubers

>> No.31109742

>>31109610
Because I REALLY don't like it.

>> No.31109748

>>31109610
Define “fujobaiting”

>> No.31109810

>>31109610
It's the same as GFE

>> No.31109894

>>31109610
It depends on the type of audience you want to grow and if you can handle it. Mysta is in the process of backing out hard cause he didn't like it. All the shit being pushed on him and handling an audience who is fairly controlling and invasive. They have a tendency to believe they own you and must fit their vision of you at all times. Must only stream with who they approve etc. Even Vox has teetered on the edge with the parasocial drama. While most unicorns are a load of talk, fujos have a tendency to lash out for real.

While all styles of streaming have ups and downs, it is easily one of the most pressuring.

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>> No.31109963

>>31109610
youre a faggot OP

>> No.31109978

>>31109610
Because i HATE it

>> No.31109990

>>31109665
but Holo make like only 1/6 of their money from supas

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>>31109678

>> No.31110127

>>31109894
That's not a problem of fujobaiting though.

What you just said is a problem of building up an audience whose seeking something that you were offering only for you to decide later you don't like it.

That's not a trait of fujobaiting, that's a trait of either deceitful growth/lack of foresight.

>> No.31110233

>>31109610
It's not. I just won't watch him because I'm not gay nor a woman. If it was wrong, choco's asmr would be wrong too. I do kinda dislike Vox in particular but not because he panders to womemes.

>> No.31110294

>>31109990
same with Vox

>> No.31110347

>>31109990
Are you trying to imply vox doesn't sell merch? If anything supas are probably even less important for him because Niji uses streamlabs which has a lower cut.

>> No.31110397

>>31110127
>a problem of building up an audience whose seeking something that you were offering only for you to decide later you don't like it
No this is not the same at all. If it was just you played pokemon a lot and then stopped your audience would go "oh well I only liked watching your pokemon content." Not throw a fit cause the saw you play digimon. Not every form of audience building in a fanbase who pushes rules on you and feels betrayed by normal human interaction. Just one who might get bored of you for switching up your content.

However that is a huge aspect of fujo pandering, building a much closer connection which has a more explosive end. We're seeing it happen right now >>31102349

>> No.31110620

>>31110347
>>31110294
No...
I mean Holo En have more things in their belt. Sponsorships, Merch, Live concerts, Ad revenue, plushies, nends, Omocat products, Conventions etc, etc
I doubt Vox has so many things under his belt. Also his merch is literally garbage, I dont see it breaking Myth's merch record
Even a IRyS made 150K+ in a week from Journey merch

>> No.31110654

>>31109610
It's cancer

>> No.31110685

>>31109610
It's gay.

>> No.31110764

>>31110620
I mean if you put it like that, then yes. Holo En might beat Niji. I know they only have merch, ads, Sponsors and voice packs.
But if what you are saying is true, I don't see Vox's merch beating Irys's record

>> No.31110780

>>31109610
>what you think
>fujos will shower you with money and love and you will be swimming in women
>what actually happens
>rrats get made up about you while your fans fight each other over exactly how gay they think you should be

>> No.31110832

>>31110620
>150K+ in a week from Journey merch
holy shit. I make half of that annually.

>> No.31110925

>>31110620
I think you're coping hard anon.

>> No.31110938

>>31110620
i mean its true Holo En has more ways of making revenue than Niji, but I doubt we know the exact numbers. I know this much. And yeah, I agree that Niji EN products for merch are ass.
I still think Vox makes more than Council members though

>> No.31110953

>>31109610
Anything I disagree with is objectively wrong.

>> No.31110984

>>31109610
it's heterophobic

>> No.31110999

>>31110925
>I think you're coping hard anon.
Why?
I am not getting any of that money they are making. Why will I cope?
I am just stating facts as a neutral fan

>> No.31111055

>>31110999
>neutral fan
sure

>> No.31111073

>>31109665
>her der ma arbitrary picked higher numbers
>not knowing where the real money for vtubing comes from
Niji number fagging in a nutshell. Do you faggots think just merch sales and SC's are the primary income for any successful vtuber?

>> No.31111136

Shameless pandering is always good. Fans shouldn't be ashamed of liking things, and entertainers shouldn't be ashamed for providing. The /here/ pickme girls for the edgy /pol9k/ teens, Vox and the boys for the fujos, big twitchtubers for the proud coomers, idols for the idolfags. Everyone deserves a vtuber who panders to their dumb sensibilities.

>> No.31111147

>>31109610
Because homosexuality is a sin. And gross.

>> No.31111224

>>31111055
yes actually, I don't watch anyone in Hololive besides IRyS that's why I know how much she made. And the myth girls are bigger than her.
I watch Rosemi, Selen and Pomu from Niji.
Also, I am more of a Phase connect and Inide Vtuber fanboy. I have no beef against Niji fags. So why will I try to cope?
Kuzuha isn't in top 7 superchat earners of Niji anymore. He still makes more money than all of Luxiem combined

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>>31110999
You're a typical hololive numberfag who talks constantly about numbers, and needs to believe that your corporation has bigger numbers. Maybe you have psychological problems or something.

So when confronted by the fact that other vtubers make more than hololive, you start pulling random shit out of your ass
>x, y, and z arbitrary things that I have no evidence for means that my vtubers make more money
Nobody even mentioned hololive in this thread, you did. You brought them up because you felt insecure. You also have no idea how much money Vox really makes, or how much money the things you listed make. It could be a lot, it could be a drop in the bucket. You're just listing these things because of your deep psychological need. It's sad and pathetic

>> No.31111274

>>31110397
Bad analogy because most card games are the same, attract similar audiences, share overlap and aren't super varied.
Going from yugioh to pokemon to digimon to magic won't yield much hate because ultimately they're all very similar in concept despite their differences.
You lose viewers, get comments saying how it's not for you the new direction, but won't get much hate.

Can't be compared from what I'm specifically saying of doing a specific thing and then suddenly not doing specific thing AND shitting on the audience who liked specific thing.
Pikamee/youtubers/twitch streamers in general goes from video game/long form written edited content > short form and react content and calls out audience who doesn't like that = complete switch up hate
Going from being a Gun youtuber > anti-gun/leftist youtuber = complete switch up hate
Going from being apolitical content creator > radical left/right content creator = complete switch up hate

>> No.31111278

>>31111224
logic has never been the strong thing about Nijiniggas. You have to ignore them

>> No.31111315

>>31109610
Where is the CUM tweet?

>> No.31111324

>>31110620
Vox has sponsorships too. I assume he has been in conventions albeit I don't follow that kind of shit. I agree holo's merch is better. They have that on him plus the concerts, albeit holoen hasn't had that many so far. At the end of the day we don't have all the data but it's bs to just claim SC is a small portion of holoen's revenue as if that wasn't true for Vox.

>> No.31111383

>>31111227
>You're a typical hololive numberfag who talks constantly about numbers, and needs to believe that your corporation has bigger numbers. Maybe you have psychological problems or something.
objectively false anon
>>31111224(me)
You are just showing everyone that you are being mind fucked by numbers.
If you have any proof which shows Vox makes more money than Mori, please show. Superchats are literally peanuts as supposed to live concerts and album sales

>> No.31111406

>>31111227
hes not even mentioned hololive but you lmaoo. holo lives rent free in your head. why so insecure sis?

>> No.31111475

>>31111324
Calli had.
And forget Calli, just look how well the Omocat merch for council, forget Myth, *council* is doing.
Everything is out of stock. And that is not even the main merch

>> No.31111499

>>31111383
>Superchats are literally peanuts as supposed to live concerts and album sales
Yes yes anon, these things that you have no evidence for, that exist in your head, means that your corporation is still somehow #1. You can go to be psychologically fulfilled.

Fox only makes $100k a month in superchats, it's not that much more than Gura who makes $20k in a good month.

>> No.31111521

>>31111227
Wow . why are fujoshit is seething now?
is it because axia said he hates fujoshit?

>> No.31111671
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>>31111499
>Yes yes anon, these things that you have no evidence for, that exist in your head, means that your corporation is still somehow #1. You can go to be psychologically fulfilled.
lmao seriously, what is wrong with you?
Alright fine, Nijisanji makes more than Hololive. Happy now?
Because I couldn't give a shit
I am here stating what I know, its upto you if you want to listen to me or not

>> No.31111687

>>31111499
Top 5 SC in the world basically hololive members but holofans rarely mentioned it. why this vox fans always talk SC this SC that? why they so insecure?

>> No.31111697

>>31109610
They drive away other types of fans and make it impossible to discuss you or any vtubers around you in public, just because the fanbase you cultivate is literally the most toxic one you could possibly court. It's purely a "money at the expense of all else" strategy.

There's a reason nobody cares about Nijisanji on /vt/, and it's because fujos/shippers are the scum of the earth that nobody wants to be around or associate with. Supposedly not even Niji livers like them, as evidenced by EN and JP vtubers having to try desperately to wrangle their crazed fanbases.

>> No.31111776

>>31111521
Fujos are seething because their rrats are sinking and they can't control what he does anymore. So instead they come here to try and control what /vt/ thinks instead.

>> No.31111871

>>31111671
you can't get the high ground after numberfagging and acting like a retard, Deep down I know you are seething that Vox makes more money than your flops and whore. Irys fucks people behind the back of her audience and this is why you are acting like an incel. Enna is actually mogs, mogs your whore in all departments and luxiem erans more money than her, while what you get is being cucked.
Vox alone can buy irys and all of Holo En with the money he has generated. You irys fags are the worst fanbase, first act like tribal fags and then back out

>> No.31111927

>>31111687
>Top 5 SC in the world basically hololive members
only the top four. 2 of them graduated. And the others have been streaming for four years. Vox debuted 6 months ago.

>> No.31111931

Fujo fanbase is even more unhinged then the chinese.

>> No.31111961

>>31111871
Wow vox fujoshit is worst.. remember axia hates you.. go away from here shooosohooo

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>>31111871
yeah seethe more sis.

>> No.31112216

I'm going to talk to the OP of this thread under the assumption that they're a real Kindred and a fujoshi.
Stop trying to get the approval of people who don't get it. Stop trying to sell Vox as a brotuber. He's fine as he is. He doesn't need to be marketed as something he's not for the approval of an audience that doesn't care for him.
Accept that your hobby is niche and men will never get it and will even be disgusted by it. It doesn't matter. BL is great because it is a hobby by women, for women. Male approval is irrelevant to it's existence. All that matters is that (you) enjoy it. Stick to your hobby spaces and talk to other people that get it. You'll be much happier.

>> No.31112312

>>31111871
you know, my grandfather used to sell niggers like you for 5 daboons in the black market. Looks like I will have to revive the family tradition

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>>31111871
Your vox whoring himself out there lmaooo

>> No.31112374

>>31111227
Pastorbros, we are eating good...

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>>31112312
holy kek, I can't breathe

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>>31112312
>niggers like you for 5 daboons in the black market
can i please use this insult from now onwards??

>> No.31112570

>>31112312
>5 daboons in the black market
its dabloons but holy shit. This is the most creative insult I have seen in years

>> No.31112635

>>31112312
aeee, that's too expensive a banana is the best offer I can make

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>>31111871
pls nigger, remove the bots and even Baelz mogs your whore Vox in ccv

>> No.31112777

>>31109894
>parasocial
so that's yumejo baiting, that's what his asmr shit is about, unless he starts sucking dick on stream

>> No.31112793

>>31111274
You just explained why "but all channels building an audience looking for something" was a bad point. Not all types of audiences are the same, and fujos don't even need a switch up just a perceived slight in their low IQ head. So >>31110127 was a retarded post.

>Pikamee/youtubers/twitch streamers in general goes from video game/long form written edited content > short form and react content and calls out audience who doesn't like that = complete switch up hate
No they'd just go I don't find your content interesting any more. Not everyone is a spastic fujo like you who'd freak out that content isn't for them any more. Same way you'd stop watching a tv show that turned shit.

>> No.31112910

>>31112777
>yumejo baiting,
Literally nobody cares about this distinction but the slinkiest of fujos who have no real point to make.

>> No.31112943

>>31109610
It's not wrong, but don't expect me to watch you or anyone associated with you either now or in the future.

>> No.31113002

>>31111871
>the board has been filled with shitposting about IRyS lately
>this post
Didn’t think it was actual sisters, but I guess it makes sense.

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>>31109610
Because yumes are better, ay men hate women and fujos are the biggest cucks to ever exist.

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>>31111871
>erans more money than her

>> No.31113155

>>31112910
NTA but it's just irritating seeing your subculture get blamed for shit that has nothing to do with it. Let's say you're a Hololive fan, even if you aren't - imagine people who aren't into VTubers blaming Hololive fans for all of Nijiniggers' bad behavior because they can't see a distinction between the two VTuber groups. It'd piss you off, right? It has nothing to do with you, but you still get blamed for it.
Of course I don't expect anyone who hates fujos to give a shit about how fujos feel so it's a losing game and something I don't bother fighting about, but that's why >we get pissy about it.

>> No.31113171

>>31109610
I like it because I'm a bisexual man so it also appeals to me

>> No.31113248

>>31109610
Because you might get one of your generates stabbed in a bathroom somewhere because Fujos are the craziest

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>>31109610
It causes your fanbase to be populated with literal 12olds and in consequence this causes impoverishment of the chat and possibly the content itself (if the streamers feels obligated to cater)
t.Kindred since debut

>> No.31113382

>>31113328
least pickme kindred

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>>31111871
>is actually mogs
Why are Ennafags like this? They're ESL and always target IRyS.

>> No.31114385

>>31114179
>>31111671
Why are IRyStocrats so tribalistic? They're getting just as bad as takodachis now.

>> No.31114389

>>31114179
A single schizo set out to pit those two fanbases against each other via massive samefagging and falseflagging and it somehow worked.

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Low value entertainment that is easily produced and makes the vtuber lazy.
It also puts down people who put effort into their content down the drain because it's not as effective.

And fujoshits are niggers and fostering their fanbases is cancer for everyone related and involved.

>> No.31114537

>>31114179
they're always against any vsinger that are leagues better than the feetlicker

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>>31111871
>if you don't like him you're jealous
you're a nobody kek, vox will never love you and you're an actual cuckold

>> No.31114683

>>31109610
There's nothing wrong with it, but if you don't want to get laughed at for it you might want to go to a site that caters to lonely women rather than fat neckbeards.

>> No.31114707

Nobody knows what a fujoshi is anymore.

>> No.31114818

>>31114385
>Why are IRyStocrats so tribalistic?
not as tribalistic to the nijinigger he replied to who is an Enna fag

>> No.31114883

>>31109610
because you spawn femautists who'll send death threats to his female friends

>> No.31114904

>>31109610
There's nothing wrong with fujobaiting, Im just not into it, I used to like Luxiem sure the fujobaiting was minimal at first but after the second week they started to fujobait while also grandstanding. If it were only extreme fukobaiting id still be into these guys content but once they became SJW drones, I had to drop them, I didn't to be reminded of real life bs, the thing they were SJWing for weren't even severe, just fun bantz, no one was doing it to to be offensive.

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>>31114385
>They're getting just as bad as takodachis now.
you mean they are the best fandom out there??

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>>31109610

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>>31114385
all i said was
>Because I couldn't give a shit
>I am here stating what I know, its upto you if you want to listen to me or not
And I am labelled as a Tribalfag when i repeatedly say I also watch Selen, Pomu and Rosemi.
Come on now.

>> No.31115123

>>31114974
These are gachikoi, not fujos.

>> No.31115661

>>31115123
>fujos being OK with vox dating a woman
sure anon

>> No.31116007

>>31115661
Fujos are not under the delusion they are dating Vox, no.

>> No.31116050

>>31109678
Fuck you

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>>31109610
you might not be able to handle the type of audience it brings.

>> No.31119247

>>31116007
define fujo

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>>31111871
> p-please seethe

>> No.31119467

>>31109610
I'm only suprised anyone gives a fuck at all about male vtubers

>> No.31119511

>>31109610
It corners you into that content, so when the fujos get bored and move onto something else, you're already crippled and can never gain another audience.

>> No.31119605

>>31109610
It's gay.

>> No.31119856

>>31109610
It's not bad at all (unless you're /vt/ schizo purist). It actually filters out normies with edgelords and gives legbeards with gay autists something to spend time on, also money is bonus.
If I had a charm and resources, I would fujobait as well.

>> No.31119942

>>31109610
GFE good
Fujobait bad

>> No.31120195

>>31111871
I’m convinced that femanons is outnumbering us maleanons recently.

>> No.31120322

>>31109610
no

>> No.31122405

>>31109678
hard choice

>> No.31122466

>>31109610
Taking advantage of desperate people is bad anon.

You will get it when you grow up

>> No.31122528

>>31109954
kino

>> No.31122569

>>31111871
I refuse to believe that this post was written by a man with a proper set of balls

>> No.31122616

>>31109610
Because I don’t like it is objectively a good reason, and the correct one.

>> No.31122665

>it's OK when (insert female here) does gfe
>it's not OK when Vox does bfe

just admit you're jealous that you could never do what he does and move on.

>> No.31122685

>>31109610
It's perfectly fine. Too many here don't like it when female fans get fanservice too, unfortunately.

>> No.31122890

>>31109678
NOOOOOOOOOO FAUFAU DON'T DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT WILL I DO WITHOUT YOU

>> No.31122962

>>31109610
He's funny and wastes his time making stinky asian ladies wet

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