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31053884 No.31053884 [Reply] [Original]

I am tired of keep quiet about it, so I have to say it: RUST saved Hololive. I am sorry everybody. It had to be said.

>> No.31054057

this game got boring fast

>> No.31054127

>>31053884
Your bait is so poorly made that I'm handing out a pity (you)

>> No.31055241

>>31053884
>RUST saved Hololive
so did Holocure

>> No.31057043

>>31053884
rumao

>> No.31058879

>>31054127
Thank you m'lord

>> No.31059134

>>31053884
Moona and Anya are missing from your map.

>> No.31059973

>>31054057
Not really. It's the best thing they've done in a long fucking time. But I only mean that in comparison to other "arcs".

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>>31053884
You're ironically correct.

>> No.31060246

This game is garbage

>> No.31063332

It's very fun.

>> No.31063443

I can't wait until this gay fotm shit is over, at least ARK had dinosaurs.

>> No.31063539

>>31053884
Haven't watch vtubers in three years so I need a qrd. Are they actually playing it, and doing all the pointless grinding and raiding, or are they being retarded about it?

>> No.31063567

>>31053884
Why is nobody living in the south? I never played Rust but is the south bad for some reason?

Also, this pic is missing Luna and Suisei

>> No.31063600

>>31063332
its fun but having 15k people watching you do stuff and telling you how to play the game is not

>> No.31063625

this could be fun if they actually tried to play it.

>> No.31063899

>>31053884
IRyS base is located far to the north from Gura
sisters... they hate each other!

>> No.31063971

>>31063625
they are playing it just not for you

>> No.31064002

>>31053884
Tranny game

>> No.31064011

>>31063567
It's a pain in the ass to live in the snowy area.

>> No.31064067

>>31063971
>doing pve in pvp game
more like not for anyone

>> No.31064140

>>31053884
This shit is laughably safe and boring.

>> No.31064175

>>31063539
The only ones who are playing the game as it was intended is Matsuri, Pekora, Miko, Koyori, Suisei, Polka and Roboco.
Some use more aggressive strategies like Matsuri trying to invade Polka's base or Suisei killing Subaru without a word, while others are more defensive like Polka making a underground base and Roboco creating traps around her base.
Everyone else is playing Stardew Valley. Perhaps the only one excusable is Fubuki since she literally created a farm by the river with club light and music which is hilarious.

Matsuri invading Polka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ookJMW7VhvU
Roboco traps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTm0o-SgGew
Fubuki farm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sinc47vroEA

>> No.31064217

>>31053884
what is the appeal and how would one even begin to consume this content to understand it all

>> No.31064247

>>31063567
Been a few years myself, but qrd is that some locations have better loot distributions and have may have roaming patrols. For example, the Dome in the west has pretty great loot at the very top and no guards. You're more likely to die due to bad jumps or other players. The east has a few abandoned supermarkets and powerplant, which means food is not really an issue and there's decent amount of loot you can get though most of it is crafting stuff.

In addition, each biome has different weather conditions and natural resources. Winter biomes have more sulfur (gunpowder stuff) but have a debuff of cold. Meaning if you're not properly equiped you'll take damage over time. That's the south. The north looks like a desert biome, which has more metal but has the heat debuff. Same idea as before. The center looks like a mixture of forest and plains biome, meaning no debuff with plenty of stone and wood.

>> No.31064282

>>31064175 (me)
Forgot to link the Suisei killing Subaru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjgC5s-F13M

>> No.31064405

>>31053884
Why is no one basing in the snow?

>> No.31064433

>>31064217
It's supposed to be PvP minecraft, give or take. Unfortunately the girls hate doing PvP.

>>31064175
Thanks. Fubuki is keeping the spirit of the game alive then. Rust is best when you have a few schizos on the sever who maintain public buildings for the hell of it. So I respect it. I hope the actual players absolutely mogg the stardew valley crew, they deserve it. If they want that experience, go back to minecraft.

>> No.31064457

>>31063567
Snow isn't inherently bad but there are no good monuments there so less incentive to build. I would personally build somewhere near where Kaela did, Junkyard and Supermarket provides green cards, which you would use at Satellite Dish, which would provide you a blue card to farm Water Treatment Plant with. Proximity to water allows you to build a place to store your boats, which you can then use to run Small/Oil Rig for uncontested loot. I hope they reset the map next month because this one fucking sucks, though.

>> No.31064520

>>31064405
see >>31064247
Overall it's a good idea. The girls are noobs and don't understand how to negate the debuff. I haven't watched the streams but their distribution on the game map tells me that.

>> No.31064604

>>31053884
what do you do in that game
and why are there no longer any good clip channels for this shit

>> No.31064688

>>31064520
I'm willing to say, at least Pekora and Fubuki have the ability to construct expansion bases down there, if they want to

>> No.31064710

>>31064457
I don't know. I'm looking at L11 and it seems like a really good spot to build. You're right about the other stuff, but that Sulfur Quarry seems really juicy. I'd go there and then raid the other talents with a FOB at O9. Even if it's just a simple sniping spot you could do major damage.

>> No.31064712

>>31064405
They probably don't know that the cold weather is easily offset with a 20 scrap recipe of snow jacket or 75 (?) scrap recipe of jacket. I'm waiting for boys to play rust. If they won't, I'll join and make them.

>> No.31064739

>>31053884
They are playing it like Minecraft with gamble though.

>> No.31064790

>>31064433
ah. so typical women stuff holding the game back, got it.

>> No.31065080

i know jack shit about rust but will they ever start going guns blazing and griefing each other or what? i want backstabbing drama

>> No.31065114

>>31064710
L11 is definitely a good base for an established group that can handle the scrap costs of a minicopter but I feel it's a bit too remote to be worth it as a solo player. Running quarries isn't that worth it anymore, the time and effort spent watching and controlling one is easily beat by planting berries and making tea, which is easily accomplished even with just two small farm plots. Maxed out ore tea plus a jackhammer and you'll have more sulfur in one run in the snow than you ever would with the quarry. That being said, O9 would make an excellent FOB you're right. I imagine the girls would have no counter for someone roofcamping there, which I'd love to see, but will never happen.

>> No.31065120

>>31064688
As mentioned in >>31064710 I would make a beeline for L11. I'm unsure how good of a spot it is in reality, but it's location on the map provided looks so good. Even something like I5 looks decent.
>>31064790
Sadly seems like it. It's overall a good game, but large clans have fucked it. If the girls set up some general rules, like having two distinct teams, then I could see this being a ton of fun.

>> No.31065155

>>31064790
Earlier today Mumei got when Moona appeared and suddenly pulled out a rocket launcher(she just wanted to show it off) and shoot her and Kaela down, which was kino-as-fuck and I laughed a lot. But instead of looting the bodies she apologized for killing them... Very disappointing.

>> No.31065298

I literally know more about Rust in just 2hours watching youtube videos than these girls now in a month playing blindlessly. Which they would at least try to understand what the hell they are doing or what they are supposed to do.

>> No.31065307

>>31065114
Ah. My age is showing, when I last played Ore Tea wasn't a thing. They had just barely gotten the hotair ballon up and going. I'll defer to you then. Overall it's sad they won't go as deep into the game as it deserves.

>> No.31065343

It's fucking amazing. I'm even watching holomems that I normally never watch.

>> No.31065466

>>31065307
I could kinda tell, no one likes quarries anymore. It is a shame they won't go as deep as they can, but if you hold out for long enough, Tempus+next male gen should be interesting if they do Rust. I fully expect at least one of them to dive as deep as they can into it. It's a very male brain game, I feel.

>> No.31065498

>>31053884
>meanwhile at NIJI
>jap girl
>using black male avatar in RUST

I thought the hated foreigners?!??!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CfXxmSoeu4

>> No.31065515

>>31065120
>having two distinct teams
My guess is that last month was the "discovery" era where they first played the game in just that small group, this month is the "gathering era" where more of them starts playing and learning about how to play the game, and then only next month would they set proper rules and teams, which would be the "tribal era" or something like that.

But of course, reality is that they will get bored of the game by the end of this month and nobody will touch it again in september.

>> No.31065569

>>31065498
You don't pick your rust character. It's randomly generated based off your steamid, so you can't change it no matter what server you join. I've even made family share accounts to try and escape my black male model with a manbun, but I've grown to like him. I just think of him as an indian or something.

>> No.31065586

>>31065498
You don't choose your avatar

>> No.31065630

Rust has produced the best content I hope more girls get into it, they seem to be hesitant since it's pvp but it's not been toxic so far so cmon girlies get Rustin

>> No.31065783
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Better map

>> No.31065866

>>31053884
>RUST saved Hololive
This is an exaggeration but it did made me like Matsuri. I'm not a FPS fan so I don't watch her Apex streams but this Rust arc allowed me to see how unhindered and entertaining she can be

>> No.31065914

I just want random interactions between JP/EN/ID holomems. I don't care if they treat the game like an MMO or Minecraft something.

>> No.31065958

>>31059973
if our ONLY options are apex, vsav, minecraft, and rust, i GUESS i'll choose rust, but it's really got me wondering why i even fucking watch these boring goddamn streamers at all.

>> No.31066101

>>31065466
I agree this game is more male brain orientated. It's equal mixture of scheming at all times and being honorable. I hope the guys go as deep, this game has some euphoric moments in it and I'd love to watch their reactions.
>>31065515
I think if nothing big happens by the end of this month, such as a lot of the stardew valley players being raided by a combined force of the hunters, there won't exist a reason for most of them to continue to play. Not them being completely griefed, but more so them being overwhelmed and robbed. That usually gets people back into the spirit of the game.
>>31065783
Thankyou.

>> No.31066245

>>31066101
Season 1 ended with a pretty big party and war on the server. I'm sure they are gonna do something for the end of season 2 as well.

>> No.31066476

>>31066101
i wonder if it's a problem with individuals crying and getting no-fun rules added by management or if it's purely just weak willed players lacking the spine necessary to not play a survival game hard co-op

>> No.31066498

>>31065783
Also, Aki's absolutely beautiful first house decayed because she didn't understand the mechanics. Remains to be seen if she builds a second house in the same location.

>> No.31066629

>>31066245
That's weird. I'm all for "all out war on wipe day", but Rust is a game that benefits with more conflict. It might sound weird, but the economy of the game needs it to some degree. If a meek player with no weapons suddenly gets access to a gun with decent ammo, via the means of a kitted out player dying due to rads or bleeding out, that meek player is now an active threat in that area. It makes the whole game feel far more dramatic.
Additionally, that meek player now has a means to defend themselves as they explore areas to get better loot. They migh die and lose some of it, but they'll most likely come out with an equal or greater amount of decent loot.

>> No.31066650

>>31064175
These are really good, I never watch clips but this makes me want to figure out how to follow these JP rust storylines

>> No.31066755

>>31066476
Given how some players are out for blood, I'm going to say it's just weak willed players. Maybe there's a rule against griefing and/or offline raiding, but I don't think management has added too many rules. It's Rust afterall, I think management would've just ignored the game request at that point.

>> No.31066955

>>31063600
You're not the streamer?

>> No.31067119

>>31064175
>>31064433
>>31066101
>stardew valley players
Kek. I love this term. Some of them really do play it like that.

>> No.31067433

>>31066755
Matsuri said that there's only 2 rules.

1. You can only raid if both you and the other played are online in the server(they don't need to be present in the base and you don't need to publicly announce your raid). Or you have to publicly announce your raid(through twitter) and the other party needs to accept the challenge.
2. Traps are only allowed around your base's perimeter.

The first rule is their attempt to give the attacked party a chance for self-defense while the second rule is probably so you won't place hidden traps around the map or somebody else's base.

>> No.31067437

The only rule I have heard about is no stream sniping but everybody ignores it anyways, no matter what branch.

>> No.31067503

>>31067433
>2. Traps are only allowed around your base's perimeter.
Eh? This seems a bit silly, is there any context for this?

>> No.31067569

>>31067433
>2. Traps are only allowed around your base's perimeter.
that's kinda gay

>> No.31067617

I'm just happy roboco is getting big numbers

>> No.31067648

>>31053884
>saved
from what?

>> No.31067647

>>31067433
Those are fair. They're pretty standard for Rust servers that I used to play on. If those are the only rules then it's literally just weak-willed players not wanting to kill. If they want to larp, at least make a small buisness and larp that way. Seems silly to play Rust and not wanting to hunt others.

>> No.31067843

>>31067503
I think the "perimeter" they're talking about is confined to the tool shed's radius. Not all traps, as far as I remember, need to be built within a radius from the shed. For example beartraps can be placed anywhere. Also, having lots of traps active at the same time also lags the server. So they're probably trying to mitigate that a bit.

>> No.31068000

>>31053884
That's great anon. But if there's no RUST with members I'm not entertained

>> No.31068068

>>31053884
why dont they live in the snow area??

>> No.31068124

>>31068068
See
>>31064247
>>31064520
>>31064712

>> No.31068132

>>31067647
I meant, Miko already raided Pekora's base, and Pekora in turn killed and looted everything from Miko's corpse few days ago ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XypZw2PD9DA).). They clearly are allowed to, just that most of them don't want to risk stepping on each others' toe for now, I suppose.

>> No.31068152

>>31064175
Polka, you scum. A cave base?

>> No.31068262

>>31053884
I want Botan to drop pod in a nuke the place.

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i'm only a threadreader, has anyone raided/killed the ENs yet? or is everyone being overly polite to them as usual

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>>31067437
There's other rules like no base raiding while people are offline. Rules are meant to be broken though.

>> No.31068719

>>31068545
Pekora killed Gura, but it was accidentally so doesn't count

>> No.31068942

>>31068152
I mean, it's pretty brilliant in terms of keeping her shit safe. Especially with Pekora testing out the MLRS last season. Plus the bucket lift gives her a constant edge over any attacker. She's a bit of a doof, but she also has a knack for thinking strategically (like how she dominates every game of Othello she plays)

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31069141

This is Hololive's most foolish arc, why does Botan, the best gamer, not simply kills the others?

>> No.31069229

>>31063899
I'm too busy dissecting Irys's stream frame by frame to try and find Gura hiding naked under her porch to care.

>> No.31069372

>>31069141
KEK
>>31068942
Cave bases seem extremely good to new players. But as you get used to playing you realize the pitfalls of them as well. Pre-vehicles they weren't as bad but they're now even worse. Some simple honeycomb tactics on a regular base would be a better strat. Oh well, she's solo so it's all fine. Could do much worse.

>> No.31069375

>>31069141
because in season 1 she didn't want to destroy their fun and now she is out cold.

>> No.31069443

>>31068152
Polka defending against Matsuri was kino especially when it showed Matsuri's menhera side

>> No.31069449

>>31069141
Because Gura would crush her if she tried. She is literally playing 10d chess.

>> No.31069453

>>31069375
honestly servers like this need a villain. reminds me of every other semi-competitive roleplaying setting i've ever been in-- nobody wants to be the bad guy so there's no conflict and thus, no purpose in life.

>> No.31069607

>>31069453
It's best if the ratio is 1:3, 1 villian per 3 stardew valley citizens. It makes the engagements more dynamtic for both parties.

>> No.31069622

>>31068719
Didn't even kill her, shot her but it wasn't fatal

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>>31069453
Why isnt the literal team of SUPERVILLAINS doing it?

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>>31069141
Doesn't want to ruin the experience of many total noobs yet

>> No.31069745

>>31053884
Rust? You mean that shit I don't watch, don't play, don't care about and have no interest in? Yeah sure, some "saving" it's doing. Wake me when they play something fun.

>> No.31069790

>>31069607
yeah true the other fear is that when there's too many stardews they'll all just dogpile the one person causing any trouble at all so they can immediately go back to playing in creative mode

>> No.31069808

I saw the clip of Pekora and gang raiding the oil rig and it was wonderful, especially with Fubuki's amazing play of the game

>> No.31069854

>>31069745
Rust is extremely played out right now. The game is old as fuck and already been played to death by other livestreamers already.

>> No.31069892

>>31069705
It's Rust. If they wanted to play Kiddy Wars then they shouldn't have picked this game out. Even if this is fake, this Botan understands the game.
>>31069697
>Lore
Anon, they're women. Ask them to kill a bug and they'll cry.

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>>31069745
But thats just you, a bitter insecure incel virgin loser.

Meanwhile Rust has almost as mean players as Apex.* The most played/watched MP game on the planet right now. It is really no wonder that they playing it.

*apex has 100k at the same time

>> No.31070174

>>31069443
Menhera really has lost all meaning on this board

>> No.31070274

>>31069697
Koyori is the only one playing and unfortunately she is more like Pekora's sidekick than villan

>> No.31070302

>>31070062
hololive's entire fanbase is bitter insecure incel virgin losers

>> No.31070470

>>31070174
menhera has a broader meaning in japan than you seem to think it does

>> No.31071014

>>31053884
why are they castling around mumei?

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>>31069705
>extra story
god damn

>> No.31073451

>>31065958
there was a proper vsav arc?
or do you mean survivor

>> No.31074796

>>31071014
Because they're all Japanese nationalists and Moom just fired the first shots in the looming ID pogrom, poor fool.

>> No.31074955

>>31053884
Suisei and Matsuri saved Rust

>> No.31075180

>FOTM game similar to Ark saved Hololive.
I don't think so Tim. I'd prefer more Minecraft.

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>>31071014
because mumei is a retard and decided to build in the middle of like 6 established bases lol

>> No.31075520

>>31053884
Damn if I got in this server, how would I grief

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Lot of dipshits in this thread who don't seem to grasp the concept that constant PVP Rust Deathmatch would not be entertaining to watch for more than a day.

Of course they have to establish ground rules to make the play last longer and create more interesting interactions. If they were all just gunning each other down on sight you wouldn't get any of that, retards.

>> No.31081185

>>31054057
>this game got boring fast
IF they continued with solo play in a multiplayer game.
IF they interact and get creative with Rust (watch youtube Rust for examples), it has a long way to go.
Peace is not an issue. Solo play in multiplayer game is. People are not expecting or tuning in for a singleplayer building game.

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>>31064175
That Polka vs Matsuri was like a real anime moment and Polka is the MC. Polka is the MC of hololive.

>> No.31081481

>>31079784
>Lot of dipshits in this thread who don't seem to grasp the concept that constant PVP Rust Deathmatch would not be entertaining to watch for more than a day.
It would be boring if they are normal rust streamers. It will be fucking interesting because they are Holos who are tame as fuck. Imagine the drama if Peko's base is destroyed to bits. And it happened again the next when she starts from scratch.
Literally nothing like this has happened in Holo history before. Has to be fucking interesting before the drama becomes super tiresome.

Not happening though. And there many Youtube rust content that don't involve braindead vengeance.

>> No.31081975

>>31081239
I watched it live, it was fucking awesome, Polka stalked Matsuri and took her down like
batman.

I also wanted to see the alternative timeline where Matsuri has actually brought enough explosives to tear down Polka's main gate (Matsuri reduced its durability down to 10~20% last time). I wonder Polka can still fend off Matsuri if the door was broken.

>> No.31082431

>>31064175
>>31081239
That clip of Polka vs Matsuri leaves out some of the better parts, like Matsuri saying she just "wants Polka to bleed a little bit", and if Polka opens the door, she'll "only loot a bit" of Polka's stuff. And capped of with Polka in chat, after the kill, typing "Are you frustrated? ". Hope we see more of that kind of interaction.

>> No.31082604

>>31081975
Well Polka has a second door behind it, as well as a shotgun trap between the two, so as soon as Matsuri moved up to target the second door, there's a good chance she'd have gotten blasted. Barring that, Polka does have the height advantage even in her base, so she has the advantage the whole way.

>> No.31082634

>>31081239
Wanna watch more of these stuff. But the virtuous looting and no cooldown respawn are big problems.

1) If Matsuri breaks in and kills Polka, Polka would spawn immediately (no cooldown) Matsuri has no way to win this raiding game. Or at insane disadvantage.

2) Imagine Matsuri and Polka have a fucking war and battle of wits, and Matsuri ends up winning like a movie protagonist. But Masturi decided to take only a few items from Polka base, or ended the raid by saying she loves Polka. That would be so underwhelming or unsatisfying. The raid itself has no real risk/stake and reward. Of course it's is too brutal if Matsuri takes everything from Polka base.
THEY NEED TO SET a rule to determine the max reward of successful raid (not too lovey dovey and not too brutal)

>> No.31082700

>>31082604
I see thx for info, appreciate that

>> No.31082889

>>31082431
>Polka in chat, after the kill, typing "Are you frustrated? "
I remember that well, that was perfect. The tone and timing. It was like watching a movie.
Sadly not many Holos are willing to go beyond "I love you senpai, see you next time, bye bye"

>> No.31083538

It made me realize I like watching jp more again.

>> No.31086397

>>31068668
>Rules are meant to be broken
Why set rules then?

>> No.31086654

>>31067437
>The only rule I have heard about is no stream sniping
This statement could be a little misleading. The actual rule is asking chat not be pigeons (that report activity of other Holos).

Steam snipe usually means a player is looking at the stream of another player, thus getting advantages which are originally allowed by the game.

>> No.31086731

>>31086654 (me)
which are not* originally

>> No.31090854

>>31069705
She understands Rust's gameplay loop which is grind-get big gun-fuck other's base-(if die) repeat from step 1-(if success) repeat from step 3. Due to many factor such as environment threats, how quickly you get weapons, how powerful the weapons are and the consequence of dying, play Rust as a survival game with base building is just wrong, A good scale for the aforementioned factors is ark-dayz-rust-pubg .

>> No.31091837

>>31068132
Pekora rolling up with a boom box on her shoulder is actually hilarious to me. I didn't know rust had this kinda stuff.

I gotta start watching some of these. who should i keep tabs on?

>> No.31092551

>>31091837
Watch Pekora, Miko, Suisei, Matsuri and Polka for the highest chance at violence (although it can just randomly erupt for anyone). If you had to watch only one I'd say Pekora for maximum entertainment value.

>> No.31093638

>>31053884
Not really. It's boring as hell.
>but my epic griefing game!
It's boring as hell.
Only salvation is that it's proving some amusing interactions between holomems, but it's still boring as all fucking hell.

>> No.31093915

>>31091837
>Pekora rolling up with a boom box
that was pure kino, even more when she killed miko without missing a beat, fell in love with her again

>> No.31094970

>>31093638
Fucking this, pretty sure Ark or Minecraft with proximity chat will be even more kino than Rust

>> No.31095590

Did Mumei just say the server was gonna get wiped?

>> No.31097384

>>31095590
Rust servers are wiped every month

>> No.31099333

>>31053884
How so?

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