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Once she was the biggest female nijien, now she's getting surpassed by runt of the litter like Petra and Rosemi.

>> No.31016045

>>31016014
Leech

>> No.31016319
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Petra is my wife!

>> No.31016772

>>31016014
She got crazy followers after the big Niji meetup a few months ago but she made the mistake to go on break right after. And then she went on break again and then a third time. People forgot that she exists and got tired from the constant breaks.

>> No.31016893

>>31016772
>People forgot that she exists and got tired from the constant breaks.
Kinda funny because she just had another one week break two weeks ago. I don't think she enjoys vtubing anymore. No one has to take breaks as often as she does.

>> No.31017510

>>31016772
Do nijis not upload shorts or do holiday zatsus?

>> No.31017676

>>31016014
Rosemi twitch stream? What was that?

>> No.31017790

Stay in your containment thread, numberfag.

>> No.31018116

>>31017676
She's streaming Fortnite right now. There's a Dragonball Collab so she plays with Selen and Son Goku

>> No.31018200

>>31018116
>Selen
Oh, that explains why she has more than 1.5k CCV

>> No.31018354

>>31017510
Nina is one of the few doing shorts but that's not a replacement for streams

>> No.31018749

How was she ever the biggest in the first place? Niji fans are fucking weird, man.

>> No.31020940

>>31018749
Unironically leeched Luxiem.
All her content became either zatsudan about Luxiem or collabs with Luxiem.
After her big offcollab with literally every member of Luxiem she prepared numerous streams to narrate all her adventures with the boys so all fangirls dropped by for their Luxiem crumbs so she got all women giving her deadsubs.

>> No.31021037

>>31018749
She unironically wasn't.
She had the highest subs but was still in the middle(for girls) of ccv

>> No.31021097

>>31016014
She only gets numbers when she's leeching males.

>> No.31021168

>>31018200
She got raided by Scarra.

>> No.31021375

>>31016014
It's pretty funny that Enna was able to achieve Nina wants to do.

>> No.31021837

She dumped her viewers for weeks for doing those stupid offcollabs with Luxiem. The worst thing was that in the end it wasn't worth it, because chinks only watch males, so they ended up abandoning her anyway.

>> No.31022927

>>31016014
She stopped leaching from males

>> No.31023353

>>31016319
Congrats on your marriage.

>> No.31023647
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DEAD
DYING
CHANNEL

>> No.31023696

>>31017790
not a containment thread, seethe about it

>> No.31023770

>>31016014
She stopped streaming for a long time because of the Australia and home invasions incidents. I think she acts a bit more insecure lately, which I think draws away from her appeal.

>> No.31023817

>>31018749
in order to get big in nijisanji all you need to do is deepthroat luxiem and the chinkfujos will flock to you

>> No.31023990

She had a stream after her long break how she focused to much on being a "mother" for the other members and not enough for her viewers. Also most of the nijis are idiots they collab with the big twitch streamers from time to time but for some reason dont stream on twitch to grab some of the viewerbase.

>> No.31024521

>>31016014
She herself was never that popular she just spent 90% of her time either collabing with or talking about the make NijiEN members so lots of the boys fans would watch her to hear what she said about them. Now she doesn't do that as much she's gone back to where she was.

>> No.31024973

DEAD
DYING
CHANNEL
KARMA'S A BITCH, AIN'T IT?

>> No.31025595

To this day, I still don't grasp why people have strong feelings about her either way.

>> No.31025698

>>31025595
She was controversial to begin with for being politically outspoken before joining Nijisanji and saying some stuff that painted her in a bad light when it came to her motivations for becoming a vtuber. Then she got even more controversial again when she grew quickly past popular girls that had worked hard for far.longer than her by merely attaching herself onto males rather than doing anything to make her deserving of that growth.

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>>31016893

>> No.31025782

>>31025698
>Then she got even more controversial again when she grew quickly past popular girls that had worked hard for far.longer than her by merely attaching herself onto males rather than doing anything to make her deserving of that growth.

first part was OK, this one is just stupid

>> No.31025822

She probably made enough money already to satisfy herself. Nijis keep more of their superchat and membership income than holos do so she did pretty good.

>>31020940
>forces women to follow her for access to her 'sons'
What a cunning woman.

>> No.31025885

>>31025782
Why is that stupid? It's bound to make fans of the other girls resentful to see someone undeserving of their success overtaking their oshis.

>> No.31025947

>>31016014
She got covid and went on hiatus for around a month, which caused her to lost a lot of momentum.

>> No.31026003

Nina's the one that literally just screeched at her fans in her past life, right? No fucking idea how she was ever popular. Honestly just makes Niji fans look like cucks.

>> No.31026026

>>31016014
She was never big, she just got a surge of subs from her shorts and leeching the males. That didn't ever carry over into people actually watching her.

>> No.31026070

>>31025782
What she did was kind of like if a new girl joined Hololive tomorrow and she just spent her whole time every stream talking about gura and things happening behind the scenes with gura so gura viewers would watch her and had gura on her streams for collabs 3/4 streams a week so people who like gura would have to come to her channel to see her.

>> No.31026104

>>31016893
Nina never enjoyed it. If there is a person on the industry for whom this is 100% purely a job with no enjoyment associated, it's Nina (actually there are more but she's the most extreme example).

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>>31016014
She started travelling and taking a lot of breaks, plus it doesn't help that she cancels at least one stream per week and is late to all of the others by at least 30 min

>> No.31026172

>>31023647
Irony.

>> No.31026254

>>31025782
Nijiniggers are even more petty than their oshis. They'll unironically hate and anti anyone that gets too popular within the company.

>> No.31026283

>>31016014
Dead subs don't mean anything. She was always a leech. So glad someone actually talented like Selen is the top subbed girl now.

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>>31016014
I'd say it's a mix of these
>>31016772
>>31016893
And the fact she ran incompatible strategies.
>got her start playing /v/core "Based" games
>then pivoted to being a hypeman for Luxiem
>is now doing a zoomer Genshin clone
/v/irgins are interested in traps, not bishounen.
Middle aged chinese ladies aren't interested in mommy play or zoomie MMOs.
Nina is often called a numberfag but that is an insult to numberfags, because she iteratively filtered big parts of her audience and you rarely bounce back from that.
You cannot in good conscience call someone a leech when their ability to feed is completely stunted.
Meanwhile Rosemi and Petra have either found or regained their groove so at worst they're holding stable.

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>> No.31026330

>>31026254
You say that as if Kanata didn't get called a leech for doing a fifth of what Nina does.

>> No.31026343

>>31026070
>>31026104
Well I'm fucking glad Nijifags aren't complete cucks. Ever since I started hearing she was the biggest female Niji or some shit, I was floored that a clear clout chaser could trick all her fans by just saying the word honey over and over.

>> No.31026387

>>31026330
Kanata being called a leech is so fucking dumb. She literally lived with the chuuba she "leeched" off of and talked about how she blew up the toilet and didn't clean it. Maybe that's why people got mad. Because their oshi doesn't clean toilets.

>> No.31026388

>>31026330
Only Nijiniggers call her a leech retard.

>> No.31026416

>>31026388
Not a Niji fan and she looks like a leech to me. A parasite even.

>> No.31026431

>>31026307
She IS a numberfag. She just doesn't know how to get her numbers. Her initial was the most sustainable long term but she threw it away for short term gain with males. A pity because she was pretty good as a gamer.

>> No.31026481

>>31026330
Kanata is still a leech. Name one thing she's done of her own volition instead of copying other people and cozying up to them.

>> No.31026490

>>31026388
Delusional, nijifans don't even know who she is, and that shit has been going for years.

>> No.31026527

>>31026431
>She IS a numberfag. She just doesn't know how to get her numbers.
That's the joke.
>pity
Yes. She's pitiable. Unlike, say, Petra she had a working system from day one and then proceeded to throw it the fuck away because she thought she could do shortcuts.
Like she's probably going to incline lightly again at some point but she'll probably be hard stuck at 1,2k for the rest of her career.

>> No.31026547

>>31026343
She was never big she just found a way to inflate her sub count.

>> No.31027722

>>31026307
just because you're bad at getting numbers doesn't mean you aren't a numberfag, just like how just because you're poor doesn't mean you don't like money

>> No.31029693

>>31026388
>Got called a leech since meme dragon bought tons of EOP watching Hololive
>Somehow Nijiniggers did it

>> No.31029947

Leeching Luxiem and the offcollabs helped some, and she already had decent sub growth from the start (#1 of Ethyria) but it's spamming shorts that put her over the top. She figured out how to game the algorithm, at the expense of making her channel archive a complete mess. Pomu does the same thing now, though not to the same degree, and it's helped her catch up to Elira. Pomu actually has a lot of real fans though so she has good viewership not just junk subs.

>> No.31031791

>>31025698
I just got back from r9k, and honestly don't feel like explaining everything misguided about your post. Oh no...I feel like telling you to hit the gym and take a shower. Brb gotta go find a vtuber to thirst after. In the meantime, just...nevermind. You'll figure it out eventually.

>> No.31032060

>>31025595
/vpol/ fags eternally mad that she didn't prove them right after weeks of shitposting about how she is le evil communiss boogieman

>> No.31032227

>>31032060
it's not like i expect extreme authenticity from my chuubas, but everything about her screams bad faith, toxic behavior. at a glance she's just about the least likeable chuuba I've ever seen

>> No.31032345

>>31032227
she's unironically just stupid and awkward as fuck and gossiping vtsisters are desperate to attribute that to malice

>> No.31032665

>>31032345
well i'll take your word for it i guess. i hope shes a good person and if she is i hope good things come to her

>> No.31033020

>>31023770
The what?

>> No.31033132

>>31026388
Who? also rent free

>> No.31037221

>>31025782
welcome to women

>> No.31038822

>leeched luxiem
>luxsisters got jealous and started hating her
>stopped leeching luxiem
>noomber go down

>> No.31039012

>>31032345
She's stupid and malicious, she can be both.

>> No.31039581

>>31032227
Nah. I watched a couple minutes of a couple of her streams for a writefag project and she seems to have a good relationship with chat, making casual conversation and asking them about their dat. Also, her persona when playing the game was more entertaining than the average girl in NijiEN
I think a lot of people have impressions of Nina that only stem from her collabs/past life, but don't actually apply to her actual content

>> No.31039900

She is just a bandwagoner trying to cash in on vtubing. She complained about it in one of her PL how it was the only way to get noticed nowadays.

>> No.31040095

>>31039900
welcome to 99,99% vtubers, naive-chan

>> No.31040312

>>31040095
You mean western vtubers.

>> No.31042233

>>31016014
Nina's numbers are always bad when she overlaps with someone from luxiem since she has the biggest audience overlap with them. She also stopped putting out shorts and uploading to tiktok which is what catapulted her channel growth so quickly, so her subscriber count is inflated from dead sub zoomers who moved on once she stopped pandering to them.

>> No.31042615

>>31026318
I dont get it

>> No.31045155

>>31017790
nijiseethe

>> No.31045216

>>31039581
she brings up topics and then keeps dragging it for hours and hours in her zatsus. I got fed up with her powerwash streams because of this. a shame cause her voice is pretty nice in those streams.

>> No.31045741

>>31016319
Your wife is a dork.

>> No.31045778

I used to watch her daily and I didn't mind the luxiem cocksuckery but then she tlaked about pronouns and that's a big dealbreaker for me, I'm sure many dropped her because of that.

>> No.31047894

>>31021375
Enna's fucked Luxiem?

>> No.31048086

>>31047894
forgive him, retards still believe the leech rrat.

>> No.31048198

I summon THE GRUDGE DOC

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>>31047894
all of them at the same time even

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>>31048198
>check archive
>isreal

>> No.31052461

>>31052148
this doc is pure schizophrenia, it's says a lot about luxiem audience.

>> No.31052582

>>31052148
this one screenshot is almost enough to make me ignore rrats forever, it's so fucking pathetic

>> No.31052737

>>31016319
Mazel tov.

>> No.31052777

>>31052148
wtf is this

>> No.31053257

>>31016014
>dying dead channel

>> No.31053764

>>31050689
>you pretty much live or die by your solo content
>does 5 collabs the previous week and 7 collabs the next week
>has zero streaming experience other than being a sub-100 view nobody knows about

>> No.31053856

tell me about the holofag, why do they always talk about numbers?
I suppose because nothing interesting ever happens in their streams, so that's all they have to talk about?

>> No.31053897

>>31050689
Its a simple reality and Vesper is 100% correct
from the Niji in the screenshot
>Aia and Reimu
sucks at their solo content and even with collabs inflating their subs, the live views never go up
>Uki, Luca and Millie
hold well themselves in their solo and only Luca capitalize on subs that he got from collabs
>Fulgur, Pomu and Enna
simply the gold standard on this screenshot,
Fungus, pre-debut self-nerf worked for his sub count, but his fanbase is solid'er than his purple gay lover
Enna steal spotlight in collabs, inclined 200% after luxiem boom and hold fans hostage for 4~6hours of zatsu no problem
Pomu always been great not much to say, she just keep doing herself and the funniest person to react to over the top games

>> No.31054019

>>31052777
Women that Hate nina compiled a giant googledoc to listen every "sin" Nina committed
Everything is quoted, timestamped and linked, they keep updating it
They are so fucking craazy

>> No.31054345

>>31052777
it's a nothingburger doc compiled by esl empaths and twittards that can't understand sarcasm.

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From the very start Nina said she wanted males in NijisanjiEN, she hasn't done anything that she didn't say she was gonna do on debut. Covid is what caused her channel to drop like that since she had to stay isolated an extra week in Australia.
>Dying dead channel
Stupid banter between Pomu and Nina who are good friends, Pomu has said that whenever she needs to talk to someone she always goes to Nina, Selen and her tend to discuss channel growth stuff to, and yesterday all the people involved in that fall guys collab thanked her for organizing it.

I will never understand the ridiculous hate NIna gets, can't tell if its because of the PL shit or angry fujos.

>> No.31055407

>>31055194
>an extra week
extra two to three weeks

>> No.31055774

>>31055407
Regardless she couldnt do shit during it.
Considering shes creating a different channel for her shorts, it seems she's moved past numbers.

>> No.31056175

>>31055194
>can't tell if its because of the PL shit or angry fujos.
I don't know about her PL shit and honestly I don't care, but people /here/ hold grudges forever and fujos are psychotic cunts, so I'd say both

>> No.31056677

>>31016014
>Head start in Ethyria because nobody was filling the mommy niche
>Playing good games
>Decent noombers, takes advantage of the YouTube algorithm with shorts and clips to grow her channel
>Enter Luxiem
>Drawn to cock like moth to lamp
>Luxiem eventually blows up, Nina inclines
>Off-collab happens, Nina inclines more. Fujos seethe, but the numbers don't lie
>Goes full on numberfag, clips about the boys, tweets about the boys, zatsus about the boys, paywalled member posts about the boys, etc.
>Gets coof in Australia after the off-collab and vanishes off the face of the earth for 3 weeks
>Left forgotten, viewers move on with their lives
>Finally comes back and streams nothing but zatsus and Minecraft, becomes 3view
that's all

>> No.31057499

>>31038822
What's really funny is that luxiem sisters love Pomu the most, which must really hurt Nina considering how much she hates Pomu. If you go to Pomu's art and cosplay tags, a lot of stuff there is from luxiem fans. They even like the Elira+Pomu ship a lot.

>> No.31057538

>>31016014
Her schtick got old.

>> No.31057590

>>31057499
I believe according to muh numbers the highest female viewers are Pomu, Elira, and Enna?

>> No.31057607

>>31057499
dude, pomu and nina litterally did at least 2 streams together where they made fun of those retarded rrats.

>> No.31057697

>>31050689
>starsen fag mad almost noone wwants to collab with him because he has no chemistry with anyone so he shits on collabs
KEK

>> No.31057755

>>31057697
that's alot of stretching you did back there, you sure you're okay?

>> No.31057819

>>31055194
>Pomu has said that whenever she needs to talk to someone she always goes to Nina
Pomu never said that retarded ninashart. She always goes to Elira, Selen, Millie or Enna.
>Pomu and Nina who are good friends
Also false. The only one saying that is the slav whore, Pomu never mentions her during her streams. That yakiniku collab is proof enough that Pomu would rather never have to do anything with the slav whore.

>> No.31057860

>>31057819
ok doxsis, go back.

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>>31057860
>no argument
As I thought. I accept your concession ninshart.

>> No.31058108

>>31057819
Kek, the stinky fujo found the thread.

>> No.31058427

>>31057819
Your posting style seems familiar.
You're the one shitting up /hag/ whenever someone posts Nina.

>> No.31060085

>>31053764
>Has zero experience except for his experience which doesnt count because I said so
>Even though he became the biggest guy in Tempus by doing *exactly* the same thing he did as a 2view

>> No.31060561

>>31016014
She neglected to cultivate her own audience and instead chased after female gray names by leeching off the boys
Many of these women just stopped watching nina after a time because women generally don't like watching other women unless it's;
1. Drama
2. Lifestyle and Makeup tutorials
3. Mukbangs

>> No.31060688

>>31057697
Anon, he was giving great advice that just happens to be relevant to some nijis
Your solo content is your bread and butter, if all you rely on is collabs, it's telling people that you are too weak to grow on your own

>> No.31060878

>>31055194
Nina gets a healthy dose of criticism, it's definitely needed because shit has to change with her channel, otherwise anycolor will start trimming the fat

>> No.31060972

>>31060561
>leeching
She said she wanted boys in niji before beign hired, said she wanted to have males in nijien and hang out with them while debuting, spent two month talking about males in around every stream, shilled luxiem pre debut while EVERY FUCKING ONE of you retards were doomposting luxiem as failures.

The simple fact that you retards are suprised that she hanged out with the boys as much as she did after that and are still pushing the leech narrative is beyond me.

>> No.31061014

>>31060972
I'm starting to believe anon. I had nothing but spite before but now I feel that I can save her.

>> No.31061143

>>31060878
>otherwise anycolor will start trimming the fat
Nijisanji has people that literally do not stream and they still voice and birthday goods.
Stop believing retarded rrats and if would be trimmed it would Reimu.

>> No.31061156

>>31060972
Textbook example of a leech

>> No.31061269

>does offcollab with Luxiem
>streams while Vox does naked bathtub ASMR in the other room
>makes Vox and Luca kiss for her own amusement
>laughs at their discomfort while she rakes in fujobucks

>> No.31061288

>>31060972
Anon, I accurately explained why she does not have a dedicated memberbase.
She had this problem is her previous life as well, she doesn't know how to actually retain an audience, she just thinks occasional drama and giving fanservice every once in a while is actually growing her memberships

If she wanted to chase after dedicated female viewers, she has to radically change her content, because her collabs with the boys don't actually net any positive growth in her memberships because her solo content is not attractive to female audiences

>> No.31061782

>>31061288
i don't deny your reasoning, i deny the motivation.

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Since she is a fellow 3view now she should get some goodwill going and collab with the other Nina

>> No.31062559

>>31061782
Nina is a numbersfag, the other day we had another discord leak where she was complaining to management that her tweet wasn't getting enough interactions and asked if she should delete it and post it again.

This conveys that she has not changed who she is, she still focuses entirely on numbers, which is completely reasonable as a streamer, but it does give weight to the argument that the entire reason she ever wanted to push for niji boys was to specifically leech off of them.

Nina, in all her history as a content creator, has always repeatedly given up trying to entertain people as a solo streamer, she consistency fell into this trap of feeling like she needed to rely on creating "viral interest" in her by making drama and doing collabs
There were times in her PL where she was getting more CCV and paid donations than now in Nijisanji, this was, like I said, due to her trying to drum up artificial interest in her channel through means other than just being solely entertaining on her own.

What this tells us is that Nina has never changed who she was, she always intended to chase after viral interest and using the nijiboys to do it, instead of finally growing as a content creator and becoming entertaining in her own right.
Her first few weeks in nijisanji, all she did was beat "hi honey" like a dead horse, specifically because she knew it would drum up viral interest in her if she became a parody for the people who hated the trend

I think the only bit of content she has ever made that's truly unique to her, is anthropomorphizing her tail with glasses and giving it a personality, more of that kind of content would have done wonders for actually cultivating an audience, as opposed to just chasing virality

>> No.31062772

>>31062559
This reminds me of the time she got into a discussion about numbers (views, growing sub count, etc) during a collab with ironmouse. It was so cringe

>> No.31063965

>>31057590
Elira probably comes in 4th, it's Selen Enna and Pomu that have the best numbers lately. Elira does fine but she likes to stream long ass RPGs that bring her nooombers down a bit. It's nice seeing Enna now listed amongst the top girls, she deserves the incline.

>> No.31064081

>>31063965
He's talking about the amount of female viewers the girls have retard-chama.

>> No.31064094

>>31016014
>>31021375
Turns out degenerate mommyfags aren't loyal after all and moved onto Scarle.
Meanwhile us who invested in Rosemi and Enna are eating good.
At the end of the day, consistency>gimmicks+leeching.

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>>31064081
O-oh ok sorry

>> No.31064241

>>31064213
what a meta Enna moment

>> No.31064660

>>31062559
>Nina is a numbersfag, the other day we had another discord leak where she was complaining to management that her tweet wasn't getting enough interactions and asked if she should delete it and post it again.
Crazy how you can make shit up and people will believe it.

>> No.31064966

>>31064660
The discord "leak" did happen, it was on her own stream and even then she said we didn't see anything we were not meant to see. But her "complaining" was less of a complain and more just making the comment to her staff.

>> No.31067167

>>31064966
It was just a brony spergout, unhinged from reality.

>"yo manager this sponsored tweet we're getting paid for isn't getting as many views as it should, should I repost?"
>this is somehow worthy of ten catalog threads worth of SEAnigger screeching

>> No.31067337

>>31016014
I have zero information about what she's doing off stream, I only ever watched her through Nijimado. At some point she just stopped playing anything but Minecraft and her every other stream was I'M BACK after like a week of absence and then there's just more Minecraft. I used to watch her when she played some cool vidya and had funny collabs like the first Lucky Dragon or French with Rosemi but now I open her waiting room and it's either Minecraft or some comeback stream and I'm simply not interested in that content. Nothing to say about her changing in personality but she just kinda fell off my radar.

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