homobros, why did they cut the collab ban short

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[Anonymous No.]

EN girls couldn’t wait to fuck them any longer and threatened Omegay.

[Anonymous No.]

Said it was fan demand as they said in the Mori x Vesper collab by Mori not long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

idk, ask mori

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Ame wanted to get dicked.

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>>30849514
My rrat is that they wanted to get any drama out of the way asap.

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>>30849514
If you couldn't tell, their pussy is already dripping with anticipation. Just look at their interactions and defense on having collabs.

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>>30849514
Their number didn't grow as fast as Yagoo expected. Omega will make the homo grow at any cost, including ruining all women

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>>30849514
it's a company practice now, they did it for Holox, they did it for ID3

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30849646
kek

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30849514
>why
>posts their subs which have crawled to a halt
I think you already know the answer here

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>>30849514
all things must end

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>>30849514
"fan demand"
Mori wanted to use and discard them before anyone else could

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>>30849514
“fan demand”
Aka the girls are in heat and want to be bred like in Tempus’ spore games

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>>30849514
they say fan demand but i call bullshit there is no way they would be pushing to integrate them that fast when other holoen members cant even acknowledge them omega or yagoo are planning something and im scared

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>>30850857
The plan is to piss you off in particular with everything that you hate that no one else really cares about

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>>30849514
Fan demand.

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>>30849514
Not fan demand but Ollie demand or Baelz demand , but Mori had to say fan demand so these two won't get anti

[Anonymous No.]

u know

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>>30850964
this, but unironically. they gotta produce those shootings for the gun ban somehow

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>>30849514
they have great viewer retention but not many subscribers
that's so weird, it really doesn't happen often
most chuubas have shitton of dead subs and not that many viewers (game choice is important) but Magni and Noir have tons of viewers (for a male anyway) and they never leave until the stream ends

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>>30850964
unicorns are gay buy covers not dumb enough to chase away customers who buy a shitton of merch my guess is that covers investors saw big money in luxien and tried to replicate its success and didn't bother considering idol culture

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No way it was fan demand like was claimed. There were plenty of people hoping for collabs, but not many complaining about the assumed 1 month ban.

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>>30851289
>Luxiem
>fujobait to the turbo max
Tempus aren’t even close to that.

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>>30850811
why care about subs if they have decent views? (the purpose of subs is getting views)
dead subs exist too

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>>30851291
Either Cover management has got incredibly insightful all of a sudden or it was just another weird choice they made that is not based off of much

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>>30851904
Magni and Noir have decent views, shit vod and low subs. Other guys don't get that decent ccv. They are new and need to expand the audience. Hence leeching from others is a necessity if they want to grow.

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>>30851904
The guys certainly don’t care about numbers. Magni even admitted he chose the most boring ass games in his debut week to filter people out because he wanted people to watch him and not the games.

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>>30851407
Magni is just as gay as all of luxiem aside from Vox.

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>>30852157
>he wanted people to watch him and not the games.
Sounds like nonsense to me. If that's the case it should be zatsudan instead of game. No external content or element at all.

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>>30850528
>Their number didn't grow as fast as Yagoo expected.
Cyborg hands wrote this

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>>30852223
Yeah but he's funny gay, and a lot of his faggotry is not really intentional

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>>30849671

I don't believe this at all, no way that fan demand for homo collabs was higher than all the previous branches.

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>>30849671
>Fan demand
There is fan demand for any gen to collab with the other gen.
This is so the boys can leech the girls, simple as
The fact that they had to change the rules means they failed

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>>30852223
Show me a tweet where Magni says he’s gonna cum because he’s bored or calling any of his coworkers a bunch of bottoms

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Can we stop pretending anyone gives a shit about EN stars now?

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A stream earlier, Altare was asked if he'd do lewd asmr or something and he outright said no.

Magni was asked if he could be someone's gf and he told them no and did a bit where he said they weren't good enough for him.

Really looks to me like they're as far from fujobait as can be at this point.

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>>30849671
Nah. Not even the homofans wanted male/female collabs this fast. Management just wants to make the homos more popular and accepted.

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>>30852114
Collabs won't work in that regard, so far they can only collab with Holomens and Holostars, if you wanna leech form the former your options are Amelia, Mori, Kronii, Bae, Fubuki, Matsuri, Towa, Ollie, Zeta, Kaela, Kobo, Iofi and Risu, only 5 of them have really good CCV, the others won't recognize their existance at all and I don't know if the boys will be allowerd to collab with indies.
And before some twitter tranny begins spewing non-sense about idol culture... these girls can collab with males whenever they want, there is no upper management not letting them do so, they just choose not to, just look at fucking Nazuna, even now with the Vshojo brand she chooses not to collab with males at all because she knows her type of content.

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>>30852523
>have the best numbers of any homo debut
>obliterated Uproar’s debut numbers
>consistently upper level 4views
>failures
Never post ever again. Infact you should be banished to /#/s so you can at least learn something while no one has to deal with your ass pull stupidity.

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>>30851904
The purpose of subs is not only getting views. It's also giving the illusion of popularity. A lot of companies base their decision on subs when it comes to give sponsopships and business deals. Which represents a lot more money than the ad revenue the views directly bring.

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>>30852759
holy fucking homobeggar reach, you can't pull the "LEARN /#/" card while the leeching homos have, on every measurable metric, fucking failed. Sana did better than them...SANA. a fucking aussie, black debuffed model.

KYS homobeggar

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>>30852823
>giving the illusion of popularity. A lot of companies base their decision on subs when it comes to give sponsopships and business deals.
I don't think companies who run business are dumb enough to not understand the concept of dead subs. Imagine paying a high dead subs low views streamer according to his subs. That company should not be allowed to run business.

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>>30849514
I think it's as simple as Cover seeing how well they doing up to that point as Stars (especially Vesper) and decided to not limit their options. The hour limit pretty died right after this too. Don't want to potentially get in your talents' way.

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>>30853010
>I don't think companies who run business are dumb
LEMAO. Do you know how many sponsorships Salome is still getting on a weekly basis, even though her CCV settled and other livers do way better than her? It doesn't matter. She's the number 1 Nijisanji vtuber

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>>30852759
>THE SANA LINE
Don't cite the deep magic to me Homobeggar, I was there when it was written

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>>30853242
her ccv still massacred a lot Nijis, she is still a hot topic now
What you've said didn't refute my dead subs arguments at all

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>>30852562
go back.

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>>30853533
>go back.
take your own advice, plebbitor/ciscord troon.

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>>30853533
This but you.

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>>30852759
homoJPs didn't get any shill from 90% of holoJPs, never post again dumb Tempiss shitter.

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>>30853242
This.
Sponsors consider four things.
1) Views
2) Vtuber is inclining/declining (esp. sponsorship duration is long)
3) Vtuber's public image fits the product
4) The vtuber company's reputation, or easy/hard to work with

Subs don't matter as they can be misleading. Vtubers that are no longer popular have high subs and lot of them are dead. Would be insane to pay them the price of popular vtubers.

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>>30852999
>>30853349
>>30853922
Not that guy but how does that prove that they're failures?

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>>30852999
>the leeching homos have, on every measurable metric, fucking failed
anon fucking everyone expected the homos to be 2 view shitters like the JP homos and completely bomb, you'd be called fucking delusional to even consider the possibility that they'd reach 5k+ on average let alone on zatsudan streams of all things. they're not massive but they're doing 100x better than literally everyone expected.

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>>30852458
Actually its possible. The EN fans whine the most about the collab ban.

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>>30852661
Well thats due to Tamaki dumping her for Roberu a long time ago.

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>>30854079
Technically speaking they aren't failures by male metrics, but only when you fall into the narrative that Holostars are not Hololive.
If this is HoloEN3 this is the worst generation ever.
>>30854287
Everyone here. I think someone in headquarters was a bit delusional thinking they could out do Vox, and when they failed to deliver the rules were changed
>>30854409
Only collabs that a sector of their audience did not want to see, even in the west.
This is a negative fan reaction means literally there are people not wanting this to happen that's unprecedent for any generation.
This screams of last-ditch resource.

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>>30849514
I want an Ollie type yab where someone is getting sucked off and then cuts the stream short

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So this is what happens
>fans just chilling in their general
>retards in bait threads bait each other and get madder and madder
>retards then decide to take his mad hurt feelings to said main general and act like a retard with people that have nothing to do with his feefees getting hurt

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>>30853476
Because I never said someone with deadsubs would be paid more. I'm talking about sponsopship opportunities. If they have a lot of subs they will be more likely to receive sponsopship offers.
If not, explain to me why Kiara, the Myth member with the lowest CCV and also one of the lowest of whole EN Holo branch also has the most sponsopship streams of all EN?

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>>30851289
There's a difference between Unicorns and Whales the later doesn't care about boys and girls mixing and still throw money where as the former only throws money because they think it'll somehow lead to them getting 1 on 1 time with their oshi

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>>30852302
zatsu is the best content as proven by Noir

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30849671
>Mori broke the collab to get the black oji san dick

Sasuga reaper chan.

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not related but I find it funny how those who got shit on for having shitty model and now look at 'em.
top 1&2 in the gen.

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The luxiem fujo stuff never fails to confuse me.
Vox leans into it super heavily when he's doing ASMR's, otherwise he's just a pretty crude dude that knows way to much about FNAF and classic cinema, Luca is omega himbo and doesn't really pander, Shu only panders in voice packs, otherwise he's just a quiet dull dude, Ike is another super quiet dude.
And Mysta, dudes the most open and honest person I've ever seen in regards to what he wants and doesn't want, just a bit menhera is his only flaw.

I wonder if you guys even watch them.

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>>30850857
Holo lied to me. Shitty excuse to break their own rule and give fan lower effort product

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>>30851184
Thank you for your speculation, I'll try to confirm viewbot in number thread

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>>30852114
Corpo love quick result, but pushing it too hard and break their own rules... not a good sign to its future

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>>30852523
I concur. Management give the homos anything they want. I've never seen any vtuber group pampered that much other than Luxiem

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>>30849777
not a bad rrat, honestly. everyone will have moved on come fall season

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>>30849514
the EN girls demanded they be allowed to collab with males as soon as possible. they threatened to graduate if they werent allowed to.

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>>30859749
>>30859865
>>30860058
Kronii love Fauna did a spank Mumei just enjoyers

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>>30854409
Before that it was Niji EN. They just change from whining about one thing to another

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>>30852661
>towa
ok now link the astel towa apex collab

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>>30860202
If that was true the jannies wouldn't delete all Ame hate threads

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>>30849514
Favoritism. That much should be obvious. Omega has been invested in making males a part of HoloEN ever since his tranny model debuted with Council. It's no surprise that he's bending the rules to give them an advantage.

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>>30849514
theyre boring as fuck and need the girl crutch
>BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE IMPRESSIVE TO HOLOSTARS JP
No they're really not.

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30862126
>His 1st attempt is hiring shills to spam on /vt/ for weeks
>2nd attempt is making a lot of interaction with all kind of female chubba
>3rd attempt is asking for Yagoo's support
>4th attempt is bending the rule of corpo
>5th attempt is making homos leech from female
He doesn't give any sign of giving up soon. More drama await

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30852572
Do you even know what fujobait is?

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>>30849646
based

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>>30854566
Only on vt is it negative. Most people are just confused.

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>>30852572

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Not saying it is a social experiment, but
If Tempus can prove that guys can either A, thot patrol and /or B, keep themselves from being sexual objects involving the other guys / GIRLS,
It creates a potential that Co-ed Hololive encounters could exist.

I would argue Vesper has proven he is quite the fellow.
Sure, he is Quirky, but seems at best the usual nerd.
Was able to stay calm and collected with Mori's collab, and due to how well he worked with his guild, it was no surprise.


Altare has gone on record being... Neutral to any of that kind of thing, but likes to joke around, being the youngest of the lot.
Might seem weird to some, but he definitely wants to see things happen perferably with his genmates
Might want to do some podcast type thing in the future, so he might be the unity searching kind like a certain pheonix, reaper Or mouse

Dezmond. He is on the hunt of the humor and the cool. However, he definitely is the one to look out for, because he definitely has a list of various degrees of cursed knowledge.


Axel. Has the most language potential out of the lot, the only one who actually does have knowledge of the jp language.

Believe or not, Rrat or Isreal, You have nothing to worry about unless the girl's fans go the likes of which MafuMafu's did. The Tempus do seem to have measured approach on their fans. Haven't made any questionable oaths to them yet, or toward their plans

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>>30863489
His 1st attempt is hiring Bae and made her the supposed leader of Council.

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>>30860298
wtf is this esl lol

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>>30851141
MAGGING PRESS!

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>>30869658
I... I can't argue with that

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>>30863489
3rd attempt is a success. Yagoo is now repping Magni.

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>>30851141
>>30870148
Literally me.

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>>30851184
>>30859865
I get the feeling a lot of people sub cute girls and then never watch again. Nijimales are similar (except luxiem who ran away with numbers) with the ccv being higher than subs would suggest. People give an immediate sub to mumei and never watch her ass because she's weird. They won't watch or sub magni because he has a penis.

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>>30849646
fpbp

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>>30849514
Is there any recent example of them not cutting the collab ban short? I feel like they always do it. And what does a collab ban even mean to the Stars, all their collabs are going to be outside the company like JP Stars.

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>>30876783
>outside the company
>he thinks omegay and noor will ever enable luxiem-tempus collabs
Kek.

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>>30876820
Iluna x TEMPUS is more believable desu

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>>30849514
theyre just desperate to keep the doa group afloat.

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>>30849514
Homobeggars are deluded into thinking they are successful just because they aren't homojp tier while underestimating en fandom's saviorfagging kek their highest collab numbers after debut buff is 10k and they think it's something to be celebrated about. We all know the only reason this happened is because they needed to leech on the girls asap.

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>>30853010
I don't know, do you see how terribly HoloEN sponsorships perform? And yet sponsors keep falling for it. It makes it pretty obvious that they just saw the sub count and assumed it would translate to something like it does with JP's.

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>>30849671
That is the made up reason, the real reason was mori wanted to be the first person to collab with them because she needs to be a trend setting attention whore so she requested special permission to collab with them early.
There was literally no fan demand for the fat wigger to collab with the guys.

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>>30879038
typical unicorn talking like they know, please take your meds

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>>30876987
Not gonna happen. Even nijiJP x Axel would be more likely than anyone in Tempus x anyone in NijiEN.

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you guys who are hating on guys collabing with girls
you must be the gayest dum fucks ever
we need to promote guys with girls
no more lesbian and gay shit
gawd you guys are losers who bitch abou tthis
absolute fvcking losers

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>>30879038
This.

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>>30849514
Because certain someone had to "own the unicorns" or she will screech on discord as she shits herself.

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>>30849514
My guess is they didn't want it to overshadow the council anniversaries.

Also the "fan demand" was probably them being annoyed by all the "Collab When?" spam in chat.

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>>30883276
Ame doesn't have unicorns. Goslings and gachis, sure but not a single unicorn is a part of ame's fanbase. She is fighting enemies inside her head.

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>>30879038
I wonder what it'll be like for Gen 2 that don't have the whole 'cool new branch idea' buff because I just watched Noir Vesper collab with a 2mil+ subbed HoloEN girl and he didn't gain any subs from it. Not even 1K more than his usual trajectory.

They've already reached the upper threshold of existing Hololive fans willing to give the boys a chance and have started the dripfeed phase of new subs.

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>>30884167
I gave him a chance, but honestly he was boring as hell. I tuned into his next zatsudan and he was talking about old computers while loudly yawning. Peak entertainment it aint.

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>>30884309
t. zoomie

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>Altares voice hurts today
I am but a humble rrat peddler and I bring you a rrat, I believe when he found out Ame did a ''karaoke with him'' he got so fucking mad he started screaming at the top of his lungs going ''THIS FUCKING WHORE I ONLY BELONG TO THE BROS HOW DARE SHE SOIL MY REPUTATION FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK STUPID BITCH I'LL KILL YOUUUU'' before he settled down into his calm voice and said he would play it cool and wait for the long con where she can break her heart by cucking her with one of the bros.

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>>30884309
>he was talking about old computers while loudly yawning.
He's just like me, as I am also an old man.

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>>30850528
I'm not worried about ruining the women, I'm worried about ruining the boys.

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>>30884309
One day you'll reach an age where you need to yawn all day because you only slept 8 hours.

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>>30851289
If you think Cover's investors affect day to day operations to that degree, you are delusional.

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>>30884776
This

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>>30884688
wrong thread holospy

[Anonymous No.]

in the end the girls are just ramping up to telling everyone they have boyfriends.

start off by saying you're going to collab with males and respond to the inevitable wave of criticism: "improve yourself, grow up, etc."

then actually collab with males and respond to 2nd smaller wave of criticism as viewers get used to the idea. (<- (You) are here)

collab casually with males for a period of 4-6 months during which time you repeatedly ask chat to stop shipping you with collab partners

finally explain you dont like being shipped because you have a boyfriend, makes you uncomfortable, etc. and deal with the least criticism at this point because everyone should've seen this coming already.

and this is how you tell your audience you're a normie without a tidal wave of backlash.

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>>30850528
>Didn't grow as fast as Yagoo expected
Maybe he shouldn't give two of them such shitty models, looks are important for getting new viewers

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>>30884548 >>30884753 >>30884548
I mean, it's fine, but I just don't find that entertaining. If I wanted to watch someone drowning on about "Back in my day", I'd talk to my Dad.

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>>30885156
You have to be 18 to post here.

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>>30884548
Anyone calling a guy in his 30s an old man is a zoomie.

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>>30884548
>>30884753
>>30885460
you are withering and your best years are behind you. its only downhill from here.

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>>30854566
>Only collabs that a sector of their audience did not want to see
a very small and insignificant sector, I assume

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>>30885832
>you are withering and your best years are behind you
only if you do not take care of your mental and physical health, it's not too late for you, anon, improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30886774
no

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>>30887058

[Anonymous No.]

I want to see a male corpo chuuba shoot himself live on stream. Homo, niggi, don't matter, anything. Just to see how it impacts the company, the colleagues and the audience. And to see the hype on this board, of course.

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>>30876250
More like they produced something people wanted to watch and people sub to watch it and not unsub when the content people want to watch stop being made. Vtuber audience tend to overlap a lot, about 30% niji watcher also watch holo, according to last year number. Holo watcher tend to sub to multiple talents at once, even though not all of them are their oshis.
Live viewers depend on time slot, the hype, the trend, YT recommendation and loyal fans.

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>>30852562
maybe tell your girls to start streaming more? lazy fucks didnt even care to do the bare minimum like, fuck you i just need 1 good stream per day but more than half of these 'professionals' didnt even stream and those who stream are boring as all sin.

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>>30879038
As I said, Omega tried to save his face from that failure, even if he has to put EN women at risk

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>>30888488
nta and I refuse to watch males, but I agree. how fucking hard is it to stream for like 1 hour each day?

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>>30883276
I won't call omegatranny a "she"

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>>30883842
She did GFE for years, of course she has some. Just because jannies deleted their angry threads doesn't mean they don't exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>30884309
Meanwhile flesh male streamers show awesome gaming skill, troll with chat, do exciting roleplaying with lots of humour.

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>>30884776
You aren't wrong. The purpose of collab ban is giving them time to stand on their own as vtuber and not become collab machines

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>>30885077
Niji EN generally have better model, and iluna flopped hard

[Anonymous No.]

There's retards actually believing Holostars will bang the girls just because they have a collab.
Like they're cut off from the rest of human society outside and aren't fucking with chads and niggers already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30854566
>If this is HoloEN3 this is the worst generation ever.
Which it isn't. Let's work with what brand they're actually under instead of making up things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30889392
They can fuck dogs and horses off screen for days no one give a fuck, just don't bring personal affair on screen

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>>30849646
/thread

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>>30849646
fpbp
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>30888671
Give me your definition of an unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>30849646
FPBP