What would you say was the biggest fall from grace in vtubing?

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Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:56:03 2022 No.30724640 [Reply] [Original]

What would you say was the biggest fall from grace in vtubing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:57:09 2022 No.30724689 File: 115 KB, 900x900, Kson_ONAIR_5t.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30724640

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:57:56 2022 No.30724719 >>30724640 Amelia's "improve yourself" moment

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:58:22 2022 No.30724736 File: 10 KB, 2300x1447, Hololive-Logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30724640

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:59:11 2022 No.30724770 >>30724640 Kizuna Ai

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:59:20 2022 No.30724776 >>30724689 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:59:20 2022 No.30724777 that girl who used her corpo identity for compensated dating ngl i was considering a certain greenhair but what she did was mild compared to some chuubas ive heard of

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 12:59:54 2022 No.30724803 >>30724689 Agree >>30724719 Only like 70% of VT got mad about that, nobody else >>30724736 Yes but no

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:04:39 2022 No.30725017 [SPOILER]

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>>30724640
Rushia. Imagine pissing away earning 6 figures a month. All she had to do was click a button on discord and keep her mouth shut.
>Women
>Not even once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:06:25 2022 No.30725116 >>30724640 2020 Holofag shit aside, it's honestly probably still Tama/Sio

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:35:59 2022 No.30726511 >>30724689 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:37:35 2022 No.30726607 >>30725017 Even fucking Towa was smarter than her when something similar happened to her. Imagine being dumber than Tokoyami Towa.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:40:52 2022 No.30726850

>>30725017
It's still the funniest part of this ordeal.
>Cover claims the talent's personal lives are up to them
>Multiple chuubas have been in the same situation before, and are still here
>All she had to do was not act like a psychipathic manipulative bitch for 1 or 2 more weeks
>LMAO LET ME BAIT MY SUICIDE AGAIN

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:49:16 2022 No.30727385

>>30726850
She didn't care about anything except for keeping her gachikoi, and her actions and strong emotional reaction effectively garaunteed their staying with her
She shed the casual portion of her audience sure, but kept her gachis and unicorns, just like she had wanted most. I don't see the issue. She had already said she has no interest in being a vtuber without unironic jealous gachikoi. I've yet to see ANYBODY suggest to me what route she could've taken to salvage her gachikoi and not be flooded with casual DD

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:51:00 2022 No.30727467 >>30724640 Kizuna Ai, without a doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:52:20 2022 No.30727528 >>30724640 everyone from gen 3 onwards

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:54:12 2022 No.30727624 >>30724689 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:55:45 2022 No.30727709 >>30724689 bro i was in tears when she was graduating and bought some of her merch it's taken so long to ship to my country that by the time it gets here it'll be immediately dumpstered because I would never want to associate myself with her now

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 13:59:13 2022 No.30727902 >>30724640 Rushia getting her crazy ass fired from both Hololive and Vshojo. >b-but she didn't get fired form VShojo Give it time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:01:15 2022 No.30728030 >>30724689 ding ding ding ding >>30725017 >>30726850 strong second place

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:02:59 2022 No.30728120 >>30727902 u overestimate vshojo

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:04:02 2022 No.30728166

>>30727902

shojo hiring her after something like that shows they don't have standards, she'll never be fired. the likes of what she did in other industries would make her unhirable even to competitors, even if she was talented because they have codes of ethics and standards that even the shittiest corpos at least pretend to follow

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:04:48 2022 No.30728200 >>30725017 What happened with this again I don't know much about vtubers? She fucked up then talked to Japanese keemstar then got fired for breaching NDA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:06:51 2022 No.30728309 >>30728166 the only rule hololive follows is that if people get mad at you, you did something wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:06:57 2022 No.30728315 >>30726850 suicide baiting is so absolutely pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:08:25 2022 No.30728374 >>30724689 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:38:13 2022 No.30729637 >>30724689 You are not only a hypocrite, but also a bitch if you believe this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 14:42:37 2022 No.30729861 >>30728200 the keemstar incident prompted followup investigation which seems to have showed her having already been breaching NDA for months beforehand

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:02:02 2022 No.30730776

>>30728200
>keemstar
Not really. Jap dramafag with a better reputation that a lot of Japs actually respect and believe gets "pressured" into talking about her and mafumafu. He says, initially, he is good friends with both, says he knew she has liked mafu for a long time, says he is not sure they are dating BUT was blaming mafu more for keeping it secret since he implied his fans are the ones going crazy.
Mafu stays silent, Rushia sends him info to prove she doesn't live with mafu, to apologize to mafumafu for the drama, and breaks NDA because she wanted to expose the "bullying" and she did this all through the dramafag because Cover told her to shut up. Whether she was dealing with suicidal thoughts, figuring out how to damage control, truly silent because of Cover or all three is anyone's guess.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:37:08 2022 No.30732575 >>30724640 I'm still waiting to see all the amazing things Coco set off to do

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:46:15 2022 No.30733038
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>>30724640
Objectively Rushia, but the rebound sadly cancels it out.
It should be Pippa because of everything found out about her is the kind of shit that trolls would force a regular streamer to an hero over. She's likely one bad take away from all the sunk-cost fallacy supporters from turning on her though.

So ignoring rrats and unfairly ignored retards, I'd have to give it to Finana. Even the worst corporate vtuber manages to only be boring and inoffensive. Finana is the only one who tried to make a statement on a controversy completely separate from vtubing had to make a forced apology video. People have always been wary that western vtubers would somehow corrupt the scene, somehow though it's managed to avoid the myriad of virtue signaling bullshit that ends up fucking up every community.
Finana is the first and only instance of this shit happening and even if the consequences weren't massive the implications suck. Nijisanji is a huge clique and grabs people from the same pools, it's one thing if some individuals privately believe what they do, but group-think encourages people and if one person becomes stupid enough to try and make a statement, then you'd have to assume behind the scenes there's rumblings between the talents about wanting to use their platform to "spread awareness."

I know others have personally fucked up more, like Mori's yab, but that's self-contained retardation. Finana's is more of a sign of things to come.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:47:10 2022 No.30733087 >>30724777 >that girl who used her corpo identity for compensated dating Haven't heard much of those. Heard of a dude larping as a woman doing that, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:49:20 2022 No.30733204 >>30724689 pretty ironic that artia comes in second

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:49:29 2022 No.30733210 >>30732575 >buys swimsuit model >Cover brings back holosummer to fuck with her

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:49:53 2022 No.30733236 >>30724689 obligatory (you) and /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:50:54 2022 No.30733297 >>30724689 >Holodrones still mad

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:52:56 2022 No.30733387

>>30733038
nearly all of Finana's gachis leaving her + a sizeable drop in CCV (she was never doing well in the first place so I don't know why the fuck they'd have internal discussions and decide Finana's example is one to emulate) should raise some red flags for them

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:55:54 2022 No.30733531 >>30724689 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:56:05 2022 No.30733536 >>30724640 Serious answers are kson, pikamee and haato

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:56:53 2022 No.30733580 >>30733387 Haven't paid attention to the numbers besides YT viewership, which seemed fine so I assumed people just forgot about it/didn't care as much after a week

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 15:57:29 2022 No.30733609 >>30733536 being abandoned by holoENsharts who never paid you a cent is not a "fall from grace"

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:00:08 2022 No.30733737 >>30724689 She’s fallen off a cliff I just cannot defend her anymore. The instant she said she’s joining vshojo, it sealed her fate. Too bad the board makes it about being an anti and not about critique on her character

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:01:52 2022 No.30733822 >>30733737 You do notice how you did not critique her character. Just admit if it isn't Hololive you don't like it. Thats what it amounts to every time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:13:00 2022 No.30734322 >>30724689 this and rushia

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:13:53 2022 No.30734358 Is this the tribalfag thread? We already have /#/ though

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:14:03 2022 No.30734366 >>30724689 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:14:06 2022 No.30734368 >>30724689 fpbp

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>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:26:57 2022 No.30734853 >>30724689 newfriend here, what happened after graduation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:28:00 2022 No.30734889 >>30734853 Lurk moar and find out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:28:26 2022 No.30734903 >>30734853 Freedom

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:28:55 2022 No.30734919

>>30725116
Yeah, all these Holos and Nijis still have careers. Sio went from mostly loved to antis harassing freshly debuted indies with similar-sounding voices into quitting just in case it's her. Though Kizuna AI is quite close because what she loses in the speed and harshness, she makes up with the height of the fall.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:31:57 2022 No.30735047

>>30734853
You will never find out. /vt/ is a place for people obsessed with vtubers to meme to other people obsessed with vtubers. If you don't follow every bit of drama as it unfolds you will never learn anything because everybody is so glued to the scene they never have to say anything that's happened because everybody already knows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:33:39 2022 No.30735121 >>30724689 Spot on, No competion for the top spot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:34:40 2022 No.30735162 >>30734853 She's not in hololive anymore so now she's evil

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:37:27 2022 No.30735306 >>30727709 Is there a tail buttplug as part of the set

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:39:50 2022 No.30735415 >>30735047 I second this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:40:00 2022 No.30735423 >>30724640 When everyone and their dog decided to be vtubers after Kizunai AI became successful just to rake money from it

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:41:16 2022 No.30735473 >>30724640 Rushia going full retard instead of just shutting the fuck up for a few weeks

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:43:12 2022 No.30735570

>>30728315
IIRC this happened multiple times with her suicide baiting to the point it's a "It's that time of the month?"

>>30734853
Immediately turns around and goes with camgirl stuff as Kson just effectively slapping a 2d head on there so she didn't fully show herself off for a while while doing even more lazy content than before with the only thing of note that was out of ordinary was a few Gunpla building threads else you get a bunch of meme reviews, blockgame and usual games.
Then a day to the year of her Hololive graduation she comes out and goes "Oh yea I'm part of VShojo now" Which seems to be premeditated as people would notice Coco the most would be the anniversary of that.
This of course was tied to a campaign pushing the Coco=Kson once again and trying to drag people towards her once more. It just made it look like Kson always was wanting to switch companies which contradicts a lot of her previous messages and concepts thrown out trying to figure why she graduated.
It looks more and more like it was a cashgrab as her "TALENT FREEDOM" was just doing nothing different than before.
She's also done some frankly strange statements afterwards which gives the impression she wanted to keep the Coco model since she knew that model just printed money.
And this was all about the money, not the chinks, not "Creative Freedom" it was all about her filling her bank accounts more (while she's also putting on weight rather quickly)

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:44:57 2022 No.30735675

>>30734853
Didn't do a lot different than when she was in Hololive and then joined a different company, changing her story from one of pitiable loss from anti harassment and management restrictions to one of selfish abandonment and leaving fans feeling unfulfilled that she didn't somehow pull a whole new circus act out of her ass.
People didn't realize sooner that the reason her comedy worked was because it was structured as a foil to Hololive and on its own it isn't really that different from any other e-girl. She still has her own personal charms, but it's like that spinoff they made about Joey after Friends finished, it just isn't the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:48:04 2022 No.30735841 >>30735570 you schizos really obsess over that one steam where she put the head on her real body lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:48:12 2022 No.30735851 >>30733210 That's literally nothing but coomerbait, she "promised" great revolutionary content and at most she did a chaturbate coomerbait chat with another woman and they didn't even have sex in it vtubers are a meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:48:39 2022 No.30735878 >>30724689 Holodrones still seething Day 43.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:51:17 2022 No.30736001

>>30735675
yeah, the fact that hololive just arbitrarily picks up some talents and makes them work in the same circle is such a particular aspect with its own appeal that it can make or break a tuber for certain audiences. even the most talented indie won't have that particular dynamic/appeal, even if they're actively collabing with others. obviously Kson is still popular though so it's not a dealbreaker for everyone

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:51:42 2022 No.30736031 >>30724689 What's with this website and first posts?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:52:00 2022 No.30736042

>>30734853
Most of this shit is just tribalfagging on steroids. There were always some anti threads for Kson on here, but it only really picked up once she joined VShojo.
Consider this: the other person joining is the girl formally known as Rushia, but she gets far less bait threads on here (and the ones that do exist tend to just be February timeloops). My opinion is that this is due to the fact that Coco voluntarily left Hololive whereas Rushia was fired, so tribalniggers aren't as pissed at her.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:52:17 2022 No.30736063

>>30734853
She moved on with her life and continued being an entertaining in another company. Barely nothing changed about her content, but /vt/ is hololive cultist general so they're eternally assmad. Holobronies truly are the Apple cultists of the vtubing world, their brand can do no wrong and if other brands do the exact same thing it somehow turns into a negative

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:56:13 2022 No.30736273 >>30726850 She wasn't afraid of Cover. She was afraid of losing paypigs. Speaking of: I know she gets the most SCs out of all of vshojo, but how does she fare in comparison with green necromancer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 16:57:44 2022 No.30736347 >>30736063 >Barely nothing changed about her content Bullshit. This was true for the first six months or something but it's way worse now.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:03:13 2022 No.30736641

>>30736273
Numbers are lower as only those who were In the Know or tied to social media enough to get the Mike Cat = Rushia and then Mike Cat = Whatever her name is now would follow her. The problem is once they know she's Mike Cat and Mike Cat is apparently still active why would they follow her as her newest form when they can stay with Mike Cat.
Of course the most obsessed paypigs are still throwing the walls of akasupas at her anyhow so those won't ever leave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:04:14 2022 No.30736704 >>30736347 stop watching clips

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:06:42 2022 No.30736854

>>30734853
>wants to turn Hololive into Whorolive by collabing with Melody but gets shut down by management
>intentionally angers zhangs in order to get them to attack Hololive and have an excuse to leave while taking in hundreds of thousands of dollars
>cam whores a bit on her previous channel, including showing her full ass on stream
>collabs with males
>joins Vshojo

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:11:44 2022 No.30737111 >>30724719 >still seething

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:14:28 2022 No.30737258 >>30733580 Finana was playing mostly debuff games after the yab, and the smoothbrains took that as her stream declining. Despite the fact that her numbers for the non-debuff games were as usual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:15:02 2022 No.30737296 >>30724719 Only fall from grace from that moment is the angry viewer's

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:27:11 2022 No.30738008 >>30734853 She went back to doing her pre-Hololive Kson stuff (cosplay tease type stuff, nothing that even YouTube has a problem with), got a new Yankee/bosozoku girl avatar, then joined Vshoujo JP.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:31:59 2022 No.30738312

>>30733822
The problem isn't non-holo, it's the build up of saying she just wanted to be independent, to just joining another corpo, to instantly going western with an almost entirely nude model with gigantic independently floppy tits to appeal to the vshojo coomers, to also recruiting Rushia to vshojo. It just comes off as very insincere and as an almost deliberate and possibly malicious move on her former co-workers especially considering what Rushia did. I don't care about the tribalism aspect, but I'm sure we've all experienced some ex-friend who seems to completely overhaul their personality and change cliques with a scorched earth attitude for the old clique. Kson just seems like one of those people and we awkwardly witnessed it all happen in 4k. It implies a lot about her character as a person outside of her vtuber personas.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:33:00 2022 No.30738374

>>30737258
Yeah, she's fine, but still think it's the start of something more. I was pretty optimistic for Niji to tardwrangle the vtuber-exclusive controversies when Vox told fujos to fuck off, but Finana's stuff says they might just try and push garbage shit down the line.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:33:51 2022 No.30738438

>>30738312
>especially considering what Rushia did.
Just curious, what exactly are you implying Rushia did? It's clearly not all that big a deal considering she was invited to join VShojo, not to mention the huge number of people still trying to get in contact with her for deals and such

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:35:49 2022 No.30738561 >>30724689 talent freedom aside everything else is a massive hit in the nuts for kson/coco

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:37:14 2022 No.30738662 >>30724689 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:40:02 2022 No.30738832 >>30738438 Burned all bridges for money, and that's if there were any bridges at all. Flare seemed completely content with her leaving

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:40:25 2022 No.30738860 >>30724719 90% of people don’t even remember it (i don’t)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:41:17 2022 No.30738913 >>30738832 Oh, never mind. You're an utter schizo. And don't insult Flare by dragging her into this, retard. I have no problem and have had no problem with any Elf friends, and I say this as a Fandead/Nekofami/Lollipop

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:41:25 2022 No.30738926 >>30724689 FPBP

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:41:47 2022 No.30738949 >>30738312 you should really stop taking things you read on here as facts

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:42:58 2022 No.30739026 >>30724640 When Coco and that other one decided to go against One China Policy

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:52:05 2022 No.30739645

>>30738438
She leaked company information and private conversations from what everyone is willing to acknowledge. It was probably more than that and done with malicious intent considering it was something big enough to be fired over. It's unprofessional to send people outside of your company text logs of conversations between you and your manager especially if they're not doing anything inappropriate themselves. It's highly implied that wasn't even the main problem and that she had been sending these kinds of private screencaps for a while. Like imagine finding out a coworker or friend was screencaping your private conversations and sending them to people. It's a shitty thing to do to another person. Don't treat others as a prop or a means to an end inn your life.
And to go back to Coco, it's pretty socially inappropriate to poach co-workers and what not.

Also
>>30738913
I'm not this guy

>>30738949
These are facts though. Rushia was a shitty coworker. This is a job, she did something very inappropriate in all work contexts even outside of vtuber bullshit. And everything I wrote about Kson is true. She was still respected after switching back to here Kson persona and managed to do all of the burning bridges or credibility within like the last few months. What exactly am I saying that isn't a fact.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:53:27 2022 No.30739734

>>30738913
>And don't insult Flare by dragging her into this, retard.
Lol, what are you talking about, she was visibly angry at her and that's through a png. If fucking Flare gets mad then she clearly did something bad, whatever it was behind the scenes

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:55:31 2022 No.30739858 File: 500 KB, 654x707, 3rlprbspmgl51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30724689 >Went from being the top Hololive vtuber to streaming on Chaturbate with project Melody

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:56:04 2022 No.30739889 >>30724640 Haato and Coco sabotaging Cover. Hololive China would bring millions of income for the corporation

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:56:38 2022 No.30739915

>>30739645
>>30739734
Why don't you read Mikeneko's statement on the matter before you continue your vagueposting? I'm impressed you wrote a full paragraph.
https://twitter.com/KamishiroTaishi/status/1540290690092961793
I've attached a reliable English translation here so that even EOPs can grasp the situation
If you want to continue blatantly lying and mispresenting the situation, go ahead, but make sure you do it on Twitter where she can see it. She's sued people for defaming her before, so maybe you'll get lucky and have some "private" communications with her lawyer

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:56:51 2022 No.30739928 >>30724770 real answerr

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:58:02 2022 No.30740009 >>30739915 Where exactly does that explain why Flare hated her at the end?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:59:00 2022 No.30740071 >>30740009 Actual Elf Friends have come to our thread to explain Flare's feelings for Rushia. Unless you're claiming that you know more than them, you can stop responding to me now.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 17:59:16 2022 No.30740087

>>30739915
>https://twitter.com/KamishiroTaishi/status/1540290690092961793
I've read this. Nobody else has corroborated this account. This is just her saving face so she still can have a career or inject doubt.
You keep saying I'm lying, but what statement is a lie?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:00:18 2022 No.30740159

>>30739645
she has not changed her personality
she was working on the bikini outfit before she decided to join vshojo
vshojo is not "just another corpo", they have a very distinctly different business model that makes them more like an indie union
she has done so much to leave hololive gracefully following all the rules and shitting on doxfags and matome sites that say she hates hololive
if she wanted to be malicious towards hololive she could do much much worse
she can't "poach" someone who was already fired
everything you write is so idiotic and theadreader-y

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:00:37 2022 No.30740185 >>30727709 ok wumao

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:01:38 2022 No.30740270 >>30724640 HoloCN

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:01:43 2022 No.30740276
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>>30740087
>Nobody else has corroborated this account.
She literally says in her opening tweet that she received permission from Cover to post this, and it was drawn up with a lawyer. I really can't help but feel like you don't understand anything about how these legal statements work, right? Cover would sue her for claiming a statement was looked over by them if it wasn't.
The speed at which you're replying makes me think you're just one of the regular Rushia schizos here. Is this you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:01:58 2022 No.30740299 >>30739858 >the top Hololive vtuber But she never was tho, it was pekora/korone, even miko/fubuki at that time She was only popular on reddit and known for making the chinks mald, but never the number one

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:02:14 2022 No.30740320 >>30740159 hahaa nigga you really believe that?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:02:42 2022 No.30740361

>>30740071
>Actual Elf Friends have come to our thread to explain Flare's feelings for Rushia.
Lol. lmao even. No one fucking knows anything other that she was mad at her, why? Who knows, but considering she didn't even bother to pretend that she wasn't angry shows that it was something really bad, at least in Flare's eyes. Anything else is headcanon, she was mad and we don't know the exact reason.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:02:59 2022 No.30740388
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personally i think it's GYARI and VOMS. It was promising at first with the trio monsters and Pikamee leading them.
it's the big three of vtubing along side holo and niji but now after 2 years or so, there almost no significant progress whatsoever.
even GYARI stopped making vocaloid music

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:03:15 2022 No.30740403 >>30740299 But muh Supachat monies ranking

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:03:27 2022 No.30740422 >>30740299 This is how you out yourself as someone who never watched before holoEN

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:03:34 2022 No.30740435 >>30740361 Ogey

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:04:30 2022 No.30740514 >>30740435 I accept your concession

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:04:40 2022 No.30740530 >>30724770 This

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:06:46 2022 No.30740722

>>30740276
I really never gave a shit about Rushia, that's not me. You're the one drawing schizo conclusions that I'm some other random person or that anyone who agrees Rushia was in the wrong is samefagging.
A company giving permission to release a statement is not the same as them corroborating the account, it's purely just saying she's not breaching any additional part of her contract or doing more damage. Cover being charitable to her and not releasing more information is not proof of an absence of fault, otherwise she wouldn't have been fired, that's just what they wrote on the paper for official dismissal. You don't understand how these contracts work.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:07:51 2022 No.30740825

>>30739734
Yeah I remember seeing the chuubas starting to comment on it and flare was such a cold and distant bitch about it despite it being her genmate like "it cant be helped! Anyways..."
So much for genmate bonds, not that I expect her to overreact but at least show a sliver of emotion lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:08:02 2022 No.30740840 File: 3.58 MB, 600x765, whorolive.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30736854 >whorolive >implying captcha: TOY R(u)SH(ia

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:10:40 2022 No.30741059 >>30724770 Thank you, in a sea of anti shitposts, for posting the obvious correct answer. Ai was the face of Vtubing and now she’s dead, you literally can’t fall farther than that.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:11:22 2022 No.30741098

>>30740722
Re-read her statement. She says it was sending the email that broke her NDA and got her fired. Everything else is literal rrat tier.
The guy who was arguing before is the Rushia schizo. See this post?
>>30740514
Same guy has been arguing with her fans for months and trying to start shit. I'd personally advice you to be skeptical of anything he says since he's an EOP and almost always wrong about anything he posts about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:14:43 2022 No.30741390 >>30741098 Anon I don't what kind of psychedelics are you on but I only posted about Flare being mad at her, you're pretending that only one person here could be arguing against you

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:21:36 2022 No.30741936 >>30741390 If you join in with replying when there's a schizo in the thread, don't be surprised if people mix you up And as I said, the actual Elf Friends have explained Flare to us. Are you one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:23:12 2022 No.30742050 >>30734919 What happened with Sio?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:25:10 2022 No.30742208

>>30741936
>If you join in with replying when there's a schizo in the thread, don't be surprised if people mix you up
Anon what do you think an anonymous board is? Do you think that only one person has to reply to you?
If you start an argument don't be surprised if multiple people reply to you, hell most of the time the original poster leaves after one reply, this is why it's retarded to attack a poster pretending it's an "usual schizo", argue with arguments not against the poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:26:31 2022 No.30742303 >>30742208 I'll be honest, anon. I don't really give much of a fucking shit if I mix up people here. Perhaps if you put some actual thought into your posts, they'd be easier to distinguish from literal unmedicated anti schizos?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:27:47 2022 No.30742393 >>30742303 Says the unmedicated obvious gachikoi....

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:29:58 2022 No.30742537 >>30742393 I acknowledge being a gachikoi, though. You'll need to acknowledge being a retarded shitstarter for us to even be on the same level of self awareness. Go anti-post in some other thread, you mouth breathing faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:35:03 2022 No.30742923 >>30742537 >anti post in another thread >in a thread where you would mostly criticize a vtuber Anon you can call me schizo but you're definitely retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:35:58 2022 No.30742993 >>30740388 I miss his 30 minute - 1 hour music videos...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:37:03 2022 No.30743070 >>30724689 Come here to post this

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:39:10 2022 No.30743236 >>30726607 There's a difference between dumb and retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:39:13 2022 No.30743239 >>30726607 Forget Towa, Matsuri the menhera ass young women handled her shit better than Rushia did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:43:34 2022 No.30743524 >>30740299 She was the number 1 supachat earner and in this business the only thing that's real is the money and miles chico

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:44:18 2022 No.30743594 >>30740299 newfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:46:51 2022 No.30743810 >>30743239 Can't believe giving the middle finger to your antis was the right answer all along

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:49:32 2022 No.30744010 >>30742923 Big difference between criticism and rrat posting. Or just lacking information when it's so easily available Wonder how your oshi would feel if she saw you shitposting like this

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:52:48 2022 No.30744234

>>30743810
Flip them off, give your story and leave it at that regardless of how much anyone wants to point out how much of a lie it sounds like. Then just keep your mouth shut about it and move on like nothing happened, shit is really simple and it was what Cover essentially told her 'keep your mouth shut until Monday', dumb ass couldn't do that though and instead thought JP Keemstar was the answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:54:08 2022 No.30744319 >>30724719 >implying that ame was ever worth watching in the first place

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:54:48 2022 No.30744376 >>30744010 Anon I don't know what exactly did you expect from this thread when you should have known that people would have 100% posted coco and rushia, and this thread is straight up shitposting with a korone pic as OP.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 18:58:23 2022 No.30744596

>>30724689
fpbp

From being one of the most praised persona in the vtubing industry, applauded as one of the legends, to be a shitter who does things that her fans didn't like.
She should've quit the industry the moment she graduated and become a real legend, instead of living long enough to become a villain.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:01:00 2022 No.30744786

>>30744376
I don't really care about people shitting on her, since most people who post her are barely literate retards.
It's just people posting outright lies that always pisses me off, and it's difficult to avoid the temptation to correct them especially when you realise how many people eat up the shit posted here as facts
Hell, I'm sure a decent portion of this board actually believes that Mikeneko moved into Kson's house because some retard here started a thread baiting with it I saw that referenced for weeks afterwards as if it was a fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:06:03 2022 No.30745155 >>30724770 Yeah this is the obvious answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:10:39 2022 No.30745549 >>30724770 Kizuna Ai has fallen so far that most people even forgot she fell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:15:47 2022 No.30745947 >>30739915 trusting a known liar at their word good job anon, those critical thinking skills are hard at work

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:15:50 2022 No.30745954 >>30724689 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:27:11 2022 No.30746690 >>30724640 When they realized they could start whoring for gaijin money

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:28:21 2022 No.30746760 >>30745947 Better to trust someone with some actual skin in the game rather than some barely literate monkey on a Cambodian rice measuring board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:41:51 2022 No.30747446 >>30746760 I would rather trust Flare than someone that threw her phone out of the window to pretend a suicide

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:41:51 2022 No.30747448

>>30728200
>Rushia is both technologically challenged and stupid enough to have her boytoy on her work Discord account.
>Streams getting a message on Discord from her boytoy
>Portion of Rushia fans not happy she's getting dicked down
>Hololive puts out general statement stating their talents can do whatever the fuck they want in their personal time, and telling people not to harass anyone.
>Instead of letting the yab pass over time like a normal person, Rushia doubles down on the crazy and starts leaking behind the scenes info.
>Turns out she's been doing this for a while AND been claiming she's being "bullied" behind the scenes, which such horrible offenses as... being made to share a streaming timeslot with others in a 50+ talent agency.
>Hololive does a 180 from defending her and drops her.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:46:32 2022 No.30747672

>>30747446
>he still thinks she threw her phone out the window
She already talked about this in detail, anti-kun. And just to clarify again, I'm not saying anything bad about Flare. People using Flare to attack Rushia are just as bad as actual Flare antis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:49:52 2022 No.30747851 >>30747448 Which Discord did you pull this inaccurate wall of text from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:50:53 2022 No.30747913 >>30724689 I feel like I'm the only one not bothered by this because I was not invested in Coco the way so much of /vt/ apparently was. Even if she did switch companies for the money, so? You wouldn't?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:51:08 2022 No.30747922 >>30747672 You trust Rushia, I trust Flare, that's it. But if you ask me then Flare is simply more trustable due to not being an actual menhera

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:52:19 2022 No.30747989 >>30747922 ...Are you saying that Flare told you that Rushia threw her phone out the window? How about some meds?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:55:50 2022 No.30748170 >>30747851 Reality. Which part do you have an issue with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:57:15 2022 No.30748249 >>30747913 I don't have a problem with Kson joining Vshojo. I have a big problem with Kson and the rest of Vshojo embracing Rushia, a known leaker and thus traitor to the industry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:58:18 2022 No.30748292 >>30740388 I wouldn't say it's a fall, moreso that it's just basically become The Pikamee Show now thanks to her benefitting from getting audiences on both sides of the pacific.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:59:16 2022 No.30748338 >>30747989 I knew you were retarded since you're still in this thread but at this point you're just trolling

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 19:59:40 2022 No.30748357 >>30748249 Yeah that is shitty, but we'll have to see if that bites them in the ass because VShojo has a lot less control over what its talents do so there's probably a lot less opportunities for her to gather dirt on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:00:47 2022 No.30748404 >>30748170 I'm amazed people will still try to defend Rushia lol

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:03:10 2022 No.30748501

>>30747913
If she's shuffling around for the money at least be honest about it, and no virtue signal lies....

Didn't care too much about Coco. Her forcing reddit onto everyone was annoying at worst, but at least the reviews gave some cheap laughs.

But who am I kidding. This whole industry is built on economically exploiting schizos

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:04:13 2022 No.30748554

>>30748501
>If she's shuffling around for the money at least be honest about it, and no virtue signal lies....
I don't know if it's a lie, I'm just saying let's assume the money was the actual reason. I wouldn't care, I wouldn't stick around in a company that pays me less when another company that has me do the same job pays more.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:04:49 2022 No.30748577
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Ever notice how every time ksons posted in threads like this you get the same canned responses of talent freedom, and statements like 'I used to be her biggest fan, but she really fell off after she did this one thing, and I can't see my self supporting her now'? Or you get people spouting out delusional fan fictions about how she totally betrayed hololive by joining vshojo, cause yagoo said she was welcome back any time? Bugs are really something else.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:04:54 2022 No.30748581

>>30748170
Even the fat dramanigger Korekore said there was nothing going on between Rushia and the alien. And as per Mikeneko's statement, it was only an email that broke NDA
Feel free to post your fiction to Twitter though. She has taken people to court for spreading slander.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:05:29 2022 No.30748616

I love how this dude(s) was seemingly set off at a comment about Rushia being a footnote in how Kson fell hard and has single handedly perpetuated the Rushia drama he actually seems to be going rabid over making it a spectacle more than anyone actually saying something critical of her.
With that said, I think saying Kizuna Ai has had the largest fall is a bit different from the other examples in this thread. She's almost a different category of a vtuber compared to the others considering she started as kind of a proto-modern vtuber. It was seemingly a different kind of business model for that team and it was more that model which became outdated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:05:51 2022 No.30748635 >>30724689 >have great career and well loved by everyone >all you had to do was coast >start to believe your own hype >Quit >Career Stalls >Now reducing to V whoring to stay relevant

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:06:01 2022 No.30748645
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>>30724640
Objectively, it's picrel. There's literally no two ways about it, she was the most supa'd VTuber on the planet, was the queen of GFE content, was an established & resected member of the most successful VTuber agency in the world, and had an absolutely massive dedicated fanbase. And she pissed it all away because she had a breakdown after making a stupid mistake.

Even among normies on Twitter it's pretty acceptable to shit on Rushia for what happened. That's how you know she really fucked up.

>>30724689
KSon fell from grace in terms of viewership, but it's far from the worst case. Most people outside this board don't give a fuck about her or what she does.

>>30734853
Not long after she graduated, she started streaming full-time on what was previously her room mate account. People here don't like her new content for various reasons, and especially don't like that she joined VShojo after saying that she wouldn't join another corpo. I don't watch her so I have no horse in this race, make your own conclusion about her content and don't take the word of schizos as gospel.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:06:13 2022 No.30748656

>>30748554
>I wouldn't stick around in a company that pays me less when another company that has me do the same job pays more.
But why would you join a company when you're going to win the exact same amount of money, collab with the exact same people and continue to do the exact same thing you were going to do? Especially after you proclaimed yourself as a golden standard for indies and their saviour?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:06:47 2022 No.30748676 >>30727709 >reddit spacing >I was in tears when coco graduated Checks out

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:06:49 2022 No.30748678 >>30724689 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:07:27 2022 No.30748712 >>30724640 Define "biggest". Kizuna fell much farther than Kson, but Kson fell off much faster and harder and gained a shit ton of antis in the process.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:08:19 2022 No.30748753 >>30724689 fpbp as far as /here/ is concerned. Went from being every EOPs favorite to another whore in a few short hours, what a wild ride.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:08:23 2022 No.30748759

>>30748656
Generally when you're under a company, they run defense for you if there's any copyright issues in ways that you can't really do as an indie. It's the whole reason so many LPers back in the day were under the Polaris blanket, it watched their back in case they got in hot water over stupid bullshit.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:08:28 2022 No.30748764

>>30748581
Ah yes, Korekore the guy who did a complete 180 on the situation in the span of 12 hours, the same way fandeads did a complete 180 on him when he supported rushia...
Also still doesn't change the fact that she was retarded enough to have mafumafu added on her work account

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:08:41 2022 No.30748780 >>30748554 Sure, but you would surely tell your company you want a bigger cut, or you'll have to look at other opportunities? And not feed the people funding you a what is now a lie about "creative differences" ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:10:00 2022 No.30748836 >>30748577 I on the other hand always thought she was over rated and am glad other people are seeing it

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:10:17 2022 No.30748847

>>30748780
>Sure, but you would surely tell your company you want a bigger cut, or you'll have to look at other opportunities?
Asking a Japanese boss for a pay rise is like asking the taxation department to allow you to not pay any tax. As soon as you ask there will be a lot of teeth sucking and procrastinating followed by some crappy excuse about the company not making enough money to give you a pay rise.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:10:51 2022 No.30748877

>>30748759
>Generally when you're under a company, they run defense for you if there's any copyright issues in ways that you can't really do as an indie.
But vshojo isn't a normal company and it's literally what she says too, the one (1) time they almost had a legal battle they fucked up so hard that they decided to memoryhole it and abandoned their audition project. Doesn't exactly seem like a good company to join if you want protection

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:11:24 2022 No.30748898 >>30748764 Nice goalposts move I accept your concession

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:11:53 2022 No.30748920 >>30748847 >Asking a Japanese boss for a pay rise is like asking the taxation department to allow you to not pay any tax. Anon we know other hologirls got better contracts after their first year

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:12:03 2022 No.30748932 >>30748877 Yeah, ok. But why the lies about creative freedom?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:12:25 2022 No.30748945 >>30748877 I'm just saying, that's usually why people join a hands-off streaming company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:13:19 2022 No.30748979 File: 2.88 MB, 1797x741, life.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30748932 meant for >>30748847

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:13:27 2022 No.30748988 >>30748577 I remember the bugs kept spamming her here everyday until her 1 year anniversary. Its like they knew what was going to happen and did what they could to maximize the damage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:13:30 2022 No.30748990 >>30748920 That's a contract renegotiation, not the same thing. That is fairly standard by comparison because it's actually damn near impossible to get fired in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:15:20 2022 No.30749067 >>30743524 Based Bad Guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:18:17 2022 No.30749200 >>30747448 I don't even like Rushia, but even I know from thread reading that this is mostly bullshit

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:18:47 2022 No.30749222

>>30748932
>>30748979
I mean even if you think that wasn't the real reason, creative freedom is a valid answer. I think we all agree that it's bullshit that holos can't play a game until they have permissions and it's all because of the stupid way japanese companies view streaming. Mori would've already done a Persona 3 playthrough by now if it wasn't for that. I know you'll say "but Kson plays the same games post-graduation" and you'd be right, but Coco also had her old playthroughs hidden as a result of the change in rules so she has been directly affected by it.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:22:26 2022 No.30749403
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>>30748877
I like how you're at least trying to understand shit.

She wanted to join vshojo because she really liked the hands off aspect it had compared to hololive. Shes a dumbass that likes to make mistakes, and would rather fail than have some suit tell her no, lighting your farts on fire probably isn't a good idea, or whatever inane thing she wanted to do. And while vshojos legal department is pretty useless, she now has the corporate clout needed to not get scammed when trying to run a project or produce merch, cause apparently while she was busy being indie she got scammed like 3 times and it pissed her off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:23:02 2022 No.30749430 >>30749222 she plays a lot of indie kusoge that would be impossible to get permissions for though in her recent twitch streams she's done stuff like downloading and playing playing 5 different games from her steam library

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:23:38 2022 No.30749452 >>30724689 Fpbp

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:26:17 2022 No.30749593

>>30749222
Sounds a bit excessive to pack up everything, forcing yourself to go through the trouble of getting your new platform known to all your fans and fund a completely new rig, just because of some arbitrary rule made so your employers save face with other companies.....

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:27:17 2022 No.30749646 >>30724689 Based. Zhangs were right all along.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:27:21 2022 No.30749650 >>30749403 And now we go back to the point of why did she pretend that she was still an indie after joining vshojo, you can't just join a company to enjoy the benefits and still dare to call yourself an indie

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:28:27 2022 No.30749716 >>30749593 yeah its almost like she was fired or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:28:37 2022 No.30749725 >>30733038 >only instance Don't worry, more ENtubers will slip up eventually. That's their inevitable fate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:28:59 2022 No.30749745 >>30749222 >Mori would've already done a Persona 3 playthrough by now if it wasn't for that thank whichever god you worship for that. The remakes are already shitting on the series enough as it is

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:30:28 2022 No.30749808 >>30749716 Ogey

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:30:29 2022 No.30749811

>>30749650
Not him but VS basically lets the talents do whatever hence why even people like Melody are part of it.

>>30749716
Nah if she was fired then Yagoo would've said she's welcome back any time. By all accounts she left the company on good terms with them, /vt/ is way more angry about this than Cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:30:42 2022 No.30749817 >>30736031 OP makes a thread and selffags right away

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:31:30 2022 No.30749859 >>30749811 yagoo WOULDN'T have said that, I meant

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:33:56 2022 No.30749964 >>30748577 Ever notice how threads with the same posts still attract her butthurt fanbase screeching about bugs?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:34:05 2022 No.30749968

>>30749593
you're starting to understand her dream
if a vtuber owns their own channel, model and brand there's not a lot stopping them from going somewhere that offers them better terms
now the companies are forced to actually negotiate with their talents instead of doing whatever they want
this is what she wants to become the new normal in order to empower all vtubers

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:34:08 2022 No.30749970 >>30749859 She got put into a banishment room anon, she was fired in the obtuse nip way where you yourself have to quit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:35:18 2022 No.30750016 >>30749964 you seem upset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:35:19 2022 No.30750018 >>30748932 What creative freedom? You fucking retards still parrot this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:35:56 2022 No.30750049 >>30750016 For pointing out someone follows bait?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:35:59 2022 No.30750050 >>30724770 actual real answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:36:30 2022 No.30750081 >>30750018 Her words, not mine

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:36:50 2022 No.30750097 >>30749970 Then he wouldn't have said she can come back, he would've said nothing outside of the standard "we're sad to see she's leaving the company", they wouldn't have held the big graduation cermony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:37:31 2022 No.30750140 >>30750081 What words? She never said that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:37:49 2022 No.30750149 >>30749964 I'm not one of Kson's fans, but are you really surprised that a fan wants to defend their oshi? If anything, people attacking vtubers with false info makes far less sense.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:37:55 2022 No.30750155

>>30749968
>if a vtuber owns their own channel, model and brand there's not a lot stopping them from going somewhere that offers them better terms
There's nothing stopping them from doing that without the channel either you know, Bora went from Niji to VSPO and got her entire fanbase back, because everybody knew she was the same Bora minute one

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:40:32 2022 No.30750275 >>30750149 >are you really surprised that a fan wants to defend their oshi? When you say that you know all threads that mention her play out the same due to the usual antis, it's stupid for a fan to try to act smug while admitting you look for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:40:43 2022 No.30750282 >>30750097 Thing about that is he meant as a guest for a live. Yagoo is also just a cute little figure head, who just poses with merch and has no real say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:40:57 2022 No.30750288 >>30750155 not everyone is as famous as kson or bora and they wouldn't have to dip out of streaming for months while waiting for new avatars and stuff

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:41:09 2022 No.30750295

>>30749968
Considering how often companies let them keep their models and even if they don't how many chuubas retain their fanbase anway it seems she's mad she didn't get to keep Coco, or that maybe somebody was too attached to theirs to jump ship with her

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:41:39 2022 No.30750324 >>30750149 >defend their oshi from what literally what the fuck is some anon doing by yelling at other anons

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:41:59 2022 No.30750341 >>30750155 The channel and character can be a big deal tho. If Gura graduated it would be hard for her to get as big as the Shark.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:42:44 2022 No.30750377 >>30750282 >Yagoo is also just a cute little figure head He is CEO and founder. And since they're not a public company, that means he doesn't really have anyone to answer to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:44:29 2022 No.30750449 >>30750282 What, you expect him to walk around publicly signing paperwork all the time? You're in the real world, not an anime.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:51:09 2022 No.30750701

>>30750295
This is my own head canon, but I kind of believe this. She thought she could run off with Kanata, she couldn't, it created a rift in their relationship, months later she joins a new corpo and brings along someone who was fired from their old company and it's a flat angel motif character as a stand in. Even if it was a subconscious thing it's a little weird of a coincidence.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:51:31 2022 No.30750715

>>30750288
There's a company that already does that, CyberLive and it's the biggest shitshow in the world of vtubing, if everyone was like that company then there would be no point for companies. Now you could say they could add an non-compete, but that would be even worse than what we have now. Maybe holo is different but Bora could join another company within a month no problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 20:57:34 2022 No.30750960 >>30750715 cyberlive gave out free stuff to randoms vshojo are doing fine

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:02:16 2022 No.30751178

>>30750282
>Yagoo is also just a cute little figure head, who just poses with merch and has no real say.
holy retard, he is the CEO and founder of Cover corp which is also a private company and you're just parroting the same rrat at the time of Coco announce her graduation, what's next ? according to the script they are going back to china ? come up with new rrat at least or just kill yourself faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:03:42 2022 No.30751239 >>30750960 Vshojo hasn't had anyone leave so we can't know what will happen when they do

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:08:46 2022 No.30751449

>>30751178
The reality is something between what you people are saying. He's the CEO, all he cares about is the bottom line, events are happening and running smoothly, the company is expanding and bringing in more revenue, shit like that. But he also realizes he's become a bit of a meme so he interacts with the fan base and poses for pictures and shit. His involvement with saying Coco could come back was essentially "oh she wants to quit? she makes money, let her know it's on her and she can come back to make more money if she fails."
Even the CEO at my last company was polite when I left and mentioned he'd support me in the future if I needed another job. It's just polite business shit for someone who's only remotely focused on you if you're not a totally horrible employee.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:10:06 2022 No.30751501 >>30751239 I don't think Justin will care that much if someone leaves

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:13:08 2022 No.30751635 >>30739915 Imagine trusting that menhera. People have seen enough of her leaked messages and unhinged deleted tweets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:14:28 2022 No.30751687 >>30740276 Another retard that doesn't understand what he's reading or Cover's response. I'm not surprised at all really.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:14:41 2022 No.30751694

>>30749968
>if a vtuber owns their own channel, model and brand
if she dream of company willing to give away their IP then she can keep dreaming and live in fantasy world because that is not how real world works, and you're not exactly lose everything when you quit just look at Kson even tho she is irrelevant now she still have some career thanks to her previous job otherwise she will back to become literal who like before Hololive

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:15:18 2022 No.30751720 >>30751687 So chuuni

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:17:17 2022 No.30751818 >>30751694 they would not be giving anything away because they would not own it in the first place

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:17:19 2022 No.30751821

>>30733387
Why do women keep pandering to trannies so hard? I genuinely don't understand this. Trannies continually attempt to displace them, and the majority of men find them repulsive and don't want to be in an environment where they're welcomed, meaning the only thing those women will have left is the handful of weird ass unbathed perpetually 5 years old troons they've cultivated their spaces for. What is the appeal for women here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:18:55 2022 No.30751896 >>30751818 ?? tf are you talking about ? they don't own Kiryu Coco IP ?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:20:55 2022 No.30751964

>>30751821
It's women's version of a dick waving contest. They don't really care about you, it's just a purity competition between them and their personal friends. Taken to it's natural conclusion they will pander to the most cringe minority category just to show up their friends. Many such cases.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:22:11 2022 No.30752029 >>30751821 >Why do women keep pandering to trannies so hard? Retardation, gullibility, and a failure to understand that trannies are out to replace them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:24:09 2022 No.30752126 >>30751449 what are you trying to say here ? you're simply retarded if you think Yagoo has no real say in Cover, a private company

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:25:32 2022 No.30752191 >>30751896 they do, but kson wants more of the vtuber industry to be like vshojo, where all members have created their own brand, and are free to leave with it

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:25:38 2022 No.30752197 >>30752126 He has say in cover, he just doesn't care about the people working for him in the elaborate ways which you like to imagine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:27:15 2022 No.30752260 >>30724640 without irony Kizuna Ai she was at the top of the world and become super irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:27:58 2022 No.30752297 >>30752191 It won't happen, but I'm curious to see what she is gonna do about it.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:29:57 2022 No.30752381

>>30752191
>they do, but kson wants more of the vtuber industry to be like vshojo, where all members have created their own brand, and are free to leave with it
No she wants it to be like cyberlive except that she doesn't know that it even exists. There's no proof whatsoever that let's say nazuna can leave next month and keep the model and name, it's headcanon until any of the "new vshojo" members leave the company, which is like her, sv and hajime, if she even counts

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:32:28 2022 No.30752484 >>30736001 >the fact that hololive just arbitrarily picks up some talents >arbitrarily You have no clue what you're talking about, do you ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:33:06 2022 No.30752508 >>30752381 i'm sure you've watched a lot of kson streams to come to this conclusion

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:37:15 2022 No.30752697 >>30752381 Nazuna gets to keep her model even if she leaves. She funded the model herself.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:38:36 2022 No.30752763

>>30752484
sorry, I didn't mean the individuals were picked arbitrarily, I know they have standards for their scouting. should have clarified I mean that being part of hololive by default arbitrates who a vtuber will be spending most of their time with in collabs, as compared with indies who can just go wherever the wind blows for better or worse

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:40:00 2022 No.30752834 >>30724640 Hololive introducing male cancer into the scene.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:41:23 2022 No.30752897

>>30752508
You're getting me wrong, she THINKS vshojo is like that, but she has it wrong in a way, most of the members can leave at any time they want because most of them were popular indies in the first place and their character belongs to them, this includes someone like froot that debuted with vshojo but she herself created her model. But what about the (very few because they can't even do auditions) new members like nazuna? Are they allowed to join and leave a month in with the model and clout?
What kson describes seems more in line with cyberlive and a bit of cyberconnect where a vtuber can leave and join a new company with their previous persona

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:44:42 2022 No.30753048 >>30752697 Proof next thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:45:05 2022 No.30753071 >>30752897 i think she knows a little more about the internal workings of vshojo than us and there's no reason to believe vshojo has different tiers of members

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:47:09 2022 No.30753169 >>30752197 i never said he deeply care or anything like that tho ? but i can say he care more than most of people with similar position, just look at Holostars

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:51:25 2022 No.30753354 >>30753048 Literally on the VShojo website, they state that the tatlent owns their own IP. Are you illiterate?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:54:11 2022 No.30753488

>>30747913
>I'm the only one not bothered by this
no you're not, this board is just a reddit cesspool full of thirdworlders
>>30734853
look at all that spoonfeeding and tell me this place isn't reddit, or that it don't deserve to be mercy killed at this point for real

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:56:25 2022 No.30753586 >>30724689 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 21:57:37 2022 No.30753637 >>30753071 Maybe, but she also thought GunRun invented IRC so she's kind of a retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:03:30 2022 No.30753915 >>30753354 Yeah ok, we have no proof any of that holds up until any of those 3 leave, or until they actually get their auditions already and they state they can have the model for free

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:08:40 2022 No.30754230

>>30753915
>model for free
They paid for the model, though. And I'm pretty sure there'd be a massive scandal if Nazuna left that they told her she couldn't. Pretty sure Kson also doubled down by confirming all of the VShojo girls own their IP
Why would VShojo open themselves up to a lawsuit over IPs?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:09:59 2022 No.30754293

>>30734853
content was bad and lazy for about a year and was just phoning it in
now since she's streaming again with rushia this might change, her english lesson stream was pretty decent, but her collabs with the other vshojo girls have been pretty meh

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:11:26 2022 No.30754368 >>30724689 fpbp

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:16:17 2022 No.30754606

>>30754230
>They paid for the model, though.
There's been zero confirmation that nazuna paid for her model, I've heard that kson paid for it but even that's just a narrative
Reminder that this is the girl that couldn't even be bothered to pay for her own model as an indie
So we just have the word of the company, which isn't exactly the most competent company of all

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:17:18 2022 No.30754654 From Coco to KSon, she's always been a fucking whore. Y'all are actual redskins for tribalfagging this hard lmao, she's always been shit.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:19:52 2022 No.30754788

>>30752191
vshojo only work for somewhat established streamer and they even only consist of few people who knew each other quite long basically just nepotism, how is gonna work for smaller chuuba or someone new want to become chuuba ? pulling a cyberlive and getting scammed ?

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:20:05 2022 No.30754796

>>30754606
We know Nazuna designed her model and that she owns the IP. Stands to reason that she paid for it.
She also bought a bunch of streaming equipment back in June.
She got gifted the Live2D about 5 weeks after the termination. She was already looking into getting her own Live2D at that point, but a free one was handed to her, so she took it. Seems fair, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 22:59:06 2022 No.30756715 >>30735570 >Replace 2d avatar with a face cam >Gain weight Huh, that's kind of a chad move.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:05:40 2022 No.30757008 >>30739734 Yeah Flare hates betrayal enough that she can't play among us, yet people still believe that she is going to still be friends with Rushia after what she did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:06:45 2022 No.30757060 >>30757008 You've been posting this retarded bullshit for months, anon. When are you going to take your meds?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:08:19 2022 No.30757141 >>30726607 Towa...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:08:35 2022 No.30757152 File: 294 KB, 1032x560, 1646180932857 (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30724689 At least she's joined the Avengers of Vtubing kek, but FPBP as per usual. I can see a ton of tatsunocucks seething as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:08:47 2022 No.30757161 >>30724640 >>30724689 >1 minute difference

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:10:13 2022 No.30757261 >>30757161 Most anti posting on here is organised by Discord groups. That's part of the reason why most anti posts are the same arguments over and over again

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:12:45 2022 No.30757400 >>30757261 artia discord has been doing this shit forever they post a question that could be answered with coco/kson then instantly post an epic slam dunk first reply that says coco/kson

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:14:19 2022 No.30757471 File: 847 KB, 1371x674, we981b9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30732575 She reviewed hentai memes with Melody for 4 hours straight that one time.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:14:44 2022 No.30757495

>>30757400
Rushia antis are similar. The thread will be quiet, and suddenly there will be 3 different posts shitting on her within the space of 3 or 4 minutes. Or long, unique greentext stories about what """"really"""" happened in February, more fanciful each time
Think my favourite one was the one claiming that she was unironically homeless for a while, just due to the sheer over the top nature of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:17:59 2022 No.30757646 File: 31 KB, 400x400, korone angry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30724640 What? What happened to Korone? Are you implying something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:22:01 2022 No.30757832 >>30724689 Fippy bippy. She truly is a bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:23:45 2022 No.30757906 >>30757400 >>30757495 >everything that I don't like is the result of discord conspiracy Copenseethen

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:25:23 2022 No.30757975 >>30724640 >>30724689 One minute difference, you can't be more obvious

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:26:07 2022 No.30758001 kson and the necromancer wouldn't even make it to the top 5 jp chuuba crashes lots of newfags here which is fine but holy shit even EN babies must feel like veterans now

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:36:53 2022 No.30758439

>>30727709
I still buy Coco merch every once in a while despite my growing hate for what she has become. I still look up to herself only so I don't feel too bummed.

I suggest you can do the same anyway and keep those merch to honor her memory without having to associate Kson with her. Treat the two as seperate persons

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:50:04 2022 No.30759076

>>30747448
Funny thing is, throughout all the drama both Mike cat's, Japkeemstar's and Mafumayylmao's version of the events was that they weren't actually dating, they were just friends.
Whether this was true or a lie to not anger the gachis/fujos is a matter of debate, but it was the EOPs who completely misunderstood what was going on and instead pushed the idea that "yeah they are totally fucking and it's GOOD". The retarded EOP white knights, in their attempt to "defend rushia from the incels" very expressly went against everything Rushia was saying, despite Rushia constantly repeating that she wasn't dating Mafu and that the idea that they were fucking was pure rumours and slanders that were making her feel depressed and cry all day.
EOPs truly are a plague.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:52:55 2022 No.30759189 >>30758439 >I still buy Coco merch every once in a while despite my growing hate for what she has become. Way too many financial cuckolds surrounding Kson and Mikeneko.

Anonymous Sat Aug 13 23:54:42 2022 No.30759268

>>30758001
Arguably the top 5 would all be covered by Kizuna and the og big four.
It's kinda crazy that vtubing had two waves, or eras. The original 2016-(early)2018 and the (late)2018-today.
Vtubing in the old era was a lot different from early Hololive or early Niji, let alone what vtubing is nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:23:20 2022 No.30760720 >>30725017 Her trusting gossip youtuber than her own company shows what her true priority is. She's the type of woman who care more about gossip than actually working She's pretty much an emotional vampire.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:25:39 2022 No.30760829 >>30727385 > but kept her gachis and unicorns You mean total morons. These people are in minority and don't have that much money to spend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:28:28 2022 No.30761006 >>30759076 Based EOPs

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:33:38 2022 No.30761294

>>30733536
Pikamee drop is slow but because
>Her new avatar suck and people got tired trying to tolerate it
>Playing games solely in Japanese recently, rarely using English
>Her biggest supporter, daily dose of Pikamee stopped posting several months ago.
Also her collab with Kson was a success and even Ironmouse consider her a friend, but why she never make another collab? Wasted potential.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:35:44 2022 No.30761401 >>30760829 Yeah they don't have much money to spend because they throw thousands upon thousands of dollars into Mikeneko's bank account every month.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:44:34 2022 No.30761796 >>30740388 Gyari is getting so much money and become lazy. If Pikamee graduate or change agency, it will be a scramble to salvage things up

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:46:41 2022 No.30761888 >>30724640 .live

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:48:31 2022 No.30761978 >>30745549 Soon someone will make a documentary about Kizuna Ai with the word "Tragic" on the title

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:49:00 2022 No.30762003

>>30724689
I would call everyone going against Kson a fucking seething zhang, then she started going down and down.... after her joining Vshojo and throwing shit at hololive on the same day of Coco's graduation was the final nail in the coffin for so many former tatsunocucks, taking Rushia with her was a nice gesture, but then you realize, hey, shouldn't Nyanners and Veibae be against rushia? you know? the anti-loli and the anti-parasocial going against the queen of GFE with a loli model? no? it's ok when it's their company?... you don't say..... wow Kson you really joined a nice bunch huh?
And then you realize, hey! this is every female fantasy isn't it? being a free whore, have meltdown on twitter and recieve headpats/money.... but what's more hilarious is that the zhangs called her out on it first, but they just pushed her into madness and eventually graduation effectively turning her into what they feared the most...

THE WHORE TO DESTROY HOLOLIVE
She's gonna take every single good talent from there and we can't do shit about it.

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 00:56:05 2022 No.30762311
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Kson isn't really a fall from grace, feels more like just being lazy about it or not wanting a manager to breathe down her neck anymore since she barely changed the content she did as Coco when she returned to being Kson full time.

Rushia's thing was just her going full panic retard, going for the most dumb options she had when she could have let it blow over, make a simple statement video and be back before Holofes in March.

Feesh is one of the funniest because she just seems to keep backtracking, have her futa trap gate moment that backfires, her numbers aren't spectacular even when she's not touching any of the myriad of debuff games she plays. Had a moment where it came out she shared stuff with a small fraction of fanbase, including her audition tape to Niji and played privately with them, and now she's gone and appealed to all the parasocial fucks she can with an ASMR, even when she talked against them in the Vox Reimu incident.

Mori gonna Mori, she skirts the edge but somehow keeps making it out perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:00:14 2022 No.30762488 >>30750701 Talking about Kanata, do you think she's kinda heartbroken when she felt like she got abandoned for Rushia? Also from recent event, why Aqua refuse to hug Kanata?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:02:00 2022 No.30762578 >>30724689 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:02:34 2022 No.30762613 >>30751821 My guess is that they think that trannies are just like your typical 90s token gay friend. In reality troons are far more aggressive and willing to destroy their own friends for their own gain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:05:11 2022 No.30762765 >>30752197 lol you're entering the "Source: "Trust me bro" territory All these "Yagoo is like this, Yagoo is like that" is completely from your mind about what you think a CEO gonna do. Fucking schizo I swear.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:06:51 2022 No.30762875 >>30753354 Link please

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:08:50 2022 No.30762992 >>30754788 Sadly this is what /vt/ missed. They keep talking about Kson and Nazuna while a lot more hopeful your upstarters won't have a chance on Vshojo even when they're good streamers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:08:59 2022 No.30763006 >>30751821 >I have SEVEN femboy friends in different stages of body modification I mean transition. What about you? ZERO??? OMG YOU SUCK I AM WAY BETTER THAN YOU there

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:11:08 2022 No.30763152 >>30757152 >Calling them avengers The only one who can be considered Captain America of Vtubing is Ironmouse, the rest are not avengers material. Probably capn Marvel but it's not hard to find SJW indie vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:11:20 2022 No.30763170 File: 1.89 MB, 1240x1754, 1629855628517.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>30757646 I think OP just likes the image, pls andastan

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:11:32 2022 No.30763183 >>30762311 > and now she's gone and appealed to all the parasocial fucks she can with an ASMR, even when she talked against them in the Vox Reimu incident. Lol did the yab actually hurt the fish whore enough to make her feel the need to pander?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:12:46 2022 No.30763265 >>30759076 But most hate posts and memes came from Japanese chuuba....

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:12:57 2022 No.30763274 >>30724689 You can tell only holobronies seething about her lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:15:28 2022 No.30763437 >>30762003 >Taking Nyanners and Veibae opinions seriously ngmi

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:25:05 2022 No.30763988

>>30751821
Simple, typical basic young western women have this weird mindset that they gonna save the world one day (the one who almost gain that is Greta Thurnberg but turn out she's just a voice box and no one give a shit about her anymore when she got older). But as reality set in they start reducing their expectation from "Saving the world" to "saving a country" to "saving a city" to "be saviourfag for a minority group"
This hero complex got worse with current superhero movie hype that led them to believe that they can be a hero for someone. Rather than doing something useful their laziness kick in and they decided that virtue signaling online is enough.
Current trend is to be saviorfag for troons because having friend with token gay friend is not enough anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:36:07 2022 No.30764656 >>30761796 At least you reminded me this exists. Fucking great musicianship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vme3SGv7jQU

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:36:24 2022 No.30764676 >>30724689 BASADOTE

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:43:41 2022 No.30765120 >>30762311 Let's not forget Finana and her dumb moment with inviting Uki to her and Pomu's off-collab. >>30763183 I think it's played a part in her SCs in combination with how many debuff gacha games she plays.

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:44:14 2022 No.30765154
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How the fuck has no one posted this one? She had the entire EN Vtubing market in the palm of her hands but she had to have menhera meltdown after menhera meltdown and threw all of it away. It's impressive how much ill will she sowed for herself after being so beloved

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:48:54 2022 No.30765398 >>30724640 the creation of /vt/

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:50:16 2022 No.30765492 >>30724689 and thats fpbp, pack it up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:50:35 2022 No.30765513 >>30763988 What you described is not just a woman thing. There are lots of cucks that think in this exact way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:50:47 2022 No.30765527 >>30765154 who? is that the bitch that moved to twitch because she was scared of growing big enough on youtube that her comments would stop bieng a hugbox?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:51:12 2022 No.30765547 >>30765154 I genuinely forgot she existed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:51:46 2022 No.30765570 >>30765154 If you want more people to know her drama then at least spend some time to type up the drama because I honestly don't know who she is

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:52:06 2022 No.30765593 >>30761294 Look at Kson channel now

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 01:54:13 2022 No.30765711 >>30765513 cucks? You mean people who grew up without father figure so their way of thinking is like a woman's but without the gender advantages.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 02:04:06 2022 No.30766210 >>30765154 I know there's some good drama but I've never actually heard all of it

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 02:08:12 2022 No.30766462 >>30724640 Vtubers have grace?

Anonymous Sun Aug 14 02:44:51 2022 No.30768710

>>30765527
>>30765570
>>30766210
>Kamiko Kana
>First member of Tsunderia
>Graduated and went indie after less than a year with the company
>L2D model created by Nachoneko months before she created Gura
>Ditched it because she claimed Nacho ignored her requests for a new outfit for over a year
>Publicly said Nacho hates her in response
>Gets a new model done by lolicon artist Henreader
>Ditching that for an entirely new persona after only streaming regularly with it for less than a month
>Only streams 2-3 times a month now
>YT channel skyrocketed to over 100k subs in under a year since debut
>Ditched it for Twitch citing the desire to stay small
>Discord messages show that she hated her YT audience and wanted a brand new one, not realizing the same people were on both platforms
>Multiple Discord rants showing her inability to take any sort of advice or criticism
>Leak comes out that she has a boyfriend
>Same username as alleged boyfriend shows up in a lot of her early stream chat
>Alleged boyfriend was a competitive Smash player who was banned from Leddit for advocating that having CP shouldn't be a crime
>Deletes her entire Discord server citing trolls mass reporting it
>Members come out and say that there was ban-level material on the server, some of which she posted herself, so she deleted the server on her own
These are the biggest incidents I can recall

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 14 02:46:56 2022 No.30768820 >>30768710 holy kek

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