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3054937 No.3054937 [Reply] [Original]

Say hi to the Kiryucartel, bros. We all love our kaichou.

>> No.3055399

Does Coco actually dress like a gopnik most of the time in real life?

>> No.3055508

>>3055399
Yes, she's an Adidas elemental irl. Her bew outfit is basically just her roommate but with the copyrighted branding switched to a hololive logo.

>> No.3055535

>>3055399
She loves Adidas more than she loves drugs, yes.

>> No.3055561

>>3055399
Yes

>> No.3055688

>>3054937
this is the first time watching her stream and her english is impressive. Must be rich and had private lessons. Accent comes through sometimes though.

>> No.3055691

Does she always sing normie shit or is this because the latinos are still around?
t. first time karaoke watcher

>> No.3055708

>>3054937
CALL ME MAYBE
A
L
L

>> No.3055740

>>3055688
halfu returnee
She the best school possible; actually using the language to communicate with other human beings.

>> No.3055767

>>3054937
cute feet

>> No.3055795

>>3055688
She is American. She has a very noticeable southern accent that she hides by talking like mickey mouse. Even her roommate is doing it now.

>> No.3055833

>>3055691
last time i watched a karaoke stream was like, 3 months ago maybe?

she has singed the same songs she usually does so far (last song as i wrote this was call me mabye)

>> No.3055867

>carpenters
holy based boomer

>> No.3055937

her singing skills improved alot damn

>> No.3055945

Duet with Gura when?

>> No.3055957

>country dragon
OK Americans, you can come out now.

>> No.3055981

i feel like watching danchou utawaku now lmao

>> No.3056104

shitty MMD videos made me hate this song

>> No.3056112

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8zdf8rbtEU

>> No.3056144

>>3055945
hopefully soon now that they got rid of the chink antis spambot bullshit

>> No.3056145

>>3056112
i feel so old fuck

>> No.3056188

>>3056144
>gura collabing with other gens kek

>> No.3056215

Remember this bitch save Hololive from Chink

>> No.3056257

>>3056144
>chinkbots appear
>make a Spanish stream to summon the Kiryucartel
>spics effortlessly outspam the spammers just by being spics
>chinks have existential crises
Coco has found the silver bullet to her bug problem

>> No.3056408

>feel bad for being born a filthy spic
>see stream
>watch coco absolutely butcher Spanish
Thanks Coco, I feel a little better now.

>> No.3056465

Do you move like Yagoo?

>> No.3056491

ya salió el ayuwoki

>> No.3056502

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJjMnHoIBI

>> No.3056557

>>3056408
On the other hand, this duolingo stream has made me happy to be born Mexican.
now I hate myself for not being named Juan

>> No.3056594

First time watching her karaoke.
God, she's so cute...

>> No.3056642

oh fuck this song

>> No.3056651

>>3056642
ikr

>> No.3056682

TOTALBISCUIT IN THE GROUND TONIGHT

>> No.3056723

>>3056642
I keep hearing Haachama's version

>> No.3056727

do you guys think she is still afraid of being judged by her singing, so she just sing all the same musics everytime?

I didnt get tired of watching every single time, but...

>> No.3056734 [DELETED] 

>>3056257
The barrier's holding strong though, right? bugposters resort to manual if they try to spam?

>> No.3056747

Hating is bad, bugs!

>> No.3056761

>>3056727
We know she's really afraid of singing, so most likely.

>> No.3056775

>>3056557
>be named Juan
You get used to the infinite amount of puns after a while but this stream put a big dumb grin on my face.

>> No.3056789

>>3056723
The Coco/Haachama duet of this was amazing.
"What is shuffling?!"

>> No.3056821
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>> No.3056858

>party rockers
>gangnam style
am i fucking back in 2015?
the nerve of this fucking bitch i love it

>> No.3056913

fuck this song aswell

>> No.3056975

>>3056734
Yes, then they get banned by the mods.
They may get their spam in, but it's slower since they have to manually switch accounts until one works and figure out if they got shadowbanned, which they can only do by looking at Coco's chat on stream and asking their own members if they can also see the spam.

>> No.3057059

so, she sang the same songs she always sings (or that ive heard her sing before) + beat it.
pretty confy ngl

>> No.3057092

>>3056257
Somos pura gente de la señorita Kiryu

>> No.3057113

>>3057059
I was expecting her to pull out more Spanish songs to capitalize on the Cocopañol stream but having the familiar things we know is good and comfy.

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>> No.3057274

>>3057192
i follow that guy on pixiv, but these dudes never post the good ones there... like why even have a pixiv then? damn

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First time hearing her sing live, I loved it. t. spic
Had a blast especially with hips, same energy as being at a real party you guys got a good orange woman.
PARTY ROCK IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
CHAIRMAN'S GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME
BUGS ARE GONNA LOSE THEIR MIND

>> No.3057319

>>3057113
she probably didnt really expect that much of a spanish speaking audience.
kind of wild to see like 16k people on a duolingo stream desu

>> No.3057407

>>3057282
Same. Was my first time really getting into a stream and I think I'm really starting to understand what people mean by parasociality. Not just Coco, but the tatsunokos and the hispabros coming together in the stream, I haven't felt this happy in a long time.
Subbed to Coco now, so hopefully management can see potential in more Cocopañol stuff.

Viva la Coco, cabrones!

>> No.3061628

>>3057407

If only the spanish speaking chuuba community weren't so damn toxic. They would have to run psychiatric checks so they don't end hiring the squizos we usually end having as vtubers/youtubers.

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Seeing her Twitter full Cocoespanol Make me so happy. Especially when they SC coco. That's big step from Latinos. Not to mention she made sombrero hat. Now if only they can kill NGA like they kill Mangadex

>> No.3062098

>>3056257
Lol, this post was posted in the anti thread https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=25842567&page=1994

>> No.3062817

>>3062098
andychama....

>> No.3063723

>>3062098
qrd on their hive operations?

>> No.3065020

>>3056144
>hopefully soon now that they got rid of the chink antis spambot bullshit
wait, do you really think enma (the chink lover who's vying for chinese market) cares about chink spam? thats just an excuse but she doesnt want to tarnish the EN brand with anti-chink sentiment

>> No.3065061

>>3063723
They seemed to have moved on to different channels since the spam there seems to work.

>> No.3065081

Yo Chinks please screenshot this and put this on NGA

>> No.3065143

>>3065061

They spammed a bit on the official Hololive YT stream though the mods or spam filter was fast.

>> No.3065447

>>3065081
Shouldn't have posted the ch**k word because now they're gonna censor you

>> No.3065897

>>3065061
So they gave up on coco? Kek

>> No.3066016

>>3065020
It's unfortunate but I understand it from Enma's point of view, if chinks spam an EN stream and the western fans start retaliating by calling them chinks and telling them to fuck off the American mass media, much of which is deep in the pockets of the PRC will be salivating at all the #StopAsianHate headlines they can write

>> No.3066228

>>3065061
which channel?

>> No.3066322

>>3055795
Kind of sad she is letting go of her heritage. She could do a more natural voice once in a while ya know.

>> No.3066362

>>3066016
Not to mention the En girls aren’t the most stable. And Ina is still contracted with a Chinese game company

>> No.3066575

>>3066362
I bet Calli would be able to handle some bugs.
I agree Gura would probably freak out and Ame would start spamming the Tiananmen copypasta, however.

>> No.3066926

>>3066016
Sort of rings true with what Coco once said about how people will try to topple them the more Hololive grows. Don't think it'll ever escalate into the big media websites, but if someone ever wrote a hitpiece with this kind of topic, no amount of 'Cover should protect their talents!' spiel is going to stop outsiders from looking at this at a negative light or the hysteria overseas guys will unleash that the Hololive girls would rather not fall into.

And I highly doubt western fans are aware of how much strain they're putting on the girls by NOT ignoring this stuff. Like when the subreddit threw a hissy fit when Coco brought up being unable to collab with EN, unaware that they're likely putting Coco in a tight spot.

If a solution comes up with what YT's doing, it'll at least shut down the most visible issues. But if Coco's atleast able to interact with them off-camera in the meantime, it oughta put some minds at ease.

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>>3055691
>>3056727
>>3056761
She does sing most of the same songs on her unarchived utawakus altough she does throw a few surprises here and there, i've seen her go from Fly me to the Moon to a Marylin Manson song.
She's always singing new songs on her japanese utawakus though, here's a Gundam one.
https://youtu.be/FjSaOjpfLgs?t=28m59s

https://cocodex.net/

>> No.3067539

>>3066228
Suisei's and the official one, like during the school classmate stream earlier tonight.

Wonder how long they're going to wait before they decide the anti-spam measure is finalized and apply it to the other channels or even site-wide.

>> No.3070955

>>3067539
What about flare and fubuki? she's also impersonating coco the other day IIRC

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3072054

i'm having a lot of fun with casual coco but i'm still wondering when will cocodol come back

>> No.3072066

>>3070955
It was too early in the morning, the kids were still at classes

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>> No.3078719

>>3070955
Fubuki and Flare probably don`t have spammers chink viewers ( Fubuki gave them the middle finger by going into a takoyaki party with coco during her suspension )
Suisei probably had one chink in the stream that started seething once she started to impersonate coco and used the botspam

>> No.3080308

>>3054937
cute doragon

>> No.3081314

I want to buy her pin, is still available? How much time takes the shipping?

>> No.3081817

>>3081314
https://hololive.booth.pm/items/2659845
https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/kiryu-coco
She sold them 10 months ago for her 3D and they sold out instantly, then she released another batch for her anniversary.
Your options are ebay scalpers or waiting for a new restock which will take a long time.

>> No.3082368

>>3081314
>>3081817
Adding to the other anon, if you're looking for the next chance to buy the pin, just be ready to pay a lot for the shipping costs unless you use some other roundabout way for a cheaper alternative.

But side note, those pins oughta be ready to be delivered soon either May or June now.

>> No.3083733

Jaja, time for JUAN

>> No.3083917

el coco...

>> No.3084024

>>3083917
Sasuga el coco...

>> No.3084734
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3084734

miko love

>> No.3084869

>Kaichou es usted diabolica
that one got me good

>> No.3084883

Coco will at one point be juggling between 5 different languages on stream.

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>colombiANO

>> No.3085968

yo onions coco

>> No.3086119

>wheres superchats
this bitch knows when she sees her stream being dry

>> No.3089162

>>3057407
kiryu-kai is a nice place to be. Coco has the most active free chat of any hololive member and pops in all the time to say hi to her fans. There are a lot of jp tatsunoko there who will reply in english or talk to you in japanese if you use it there.

>> No.3089674

I like Coco she is cute. That's all.

>> No.3091755

Was there spam in the Yakuza stream last night? I went to bed and missed it.

>> No.3091945

>>3091755
It was the same as in the other recent streams. Only a single quickly deleted message every five minutes or so.

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Is this really her husband?

>> No.3092521

>>3092294
abayo

>> No.3092736

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCFi9SJJFM
La Jefa es el regalo que sigue dando.

>> No.3093866

You think K**n will also do an spanish stream?

>> No.3095099

Hot off the Presses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoYPA8S8BVQ

>> No.3095103

>>3093866
Dunno who's that supposed to be, I'm kinda out of the loop, but have in mind that you need to know English to use Duolingo for that, since there's no Japanese-Spanish course there yet.

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https://youtu.be/2lC3prJYbOQ
Guerilla singing stream coming up.

>> No.3096076

SINGING TO 1,1M SUBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lC3prJYbOQ

>> No.3096141

Wow last time I looked at her subs it was 1.07M, I think that was only a couple days ago.

>> No.3096250

>>3096141
huge bump from her duolingo streams

>> No.3096353

>>3096141
Her growth has been really slow over the last few months, understandably with no collabs and members only chat, but with collabs happening again, the new outfit and her becoming the new queen of the spics things are starting to look up for her again finally. Not that I really care much about her count now until it gets close to 2 mil though

>> No.3096397

I LOVE YOU
YOU LOVE ME

>> No.3096814

basilisk is her best song now

>> No.3096905

>>3096814
I wish she sang to the 33 tatsunoko version again. She did once during a super chat reading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_jnLm9JDU

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She's so happy

>> No.3097290

Why do you love coco?

>> No.3097355

Gundam Oji LOVE

>> No.3098199

>>3066322
>Heritage
She's japanese but lived on América until adulthood

>> No.3099230

>>3055740
I doubt she's a halfu unless she's half chink or some other kind of east asian.

>> No.3099237

I think the best part about Cocospañol is how she treats it as if she was one of those stereotypical italian-american characters in Seinfeld/Simpsons, which wouldn't surprise me at all considering her upbringing.
"Pasto pasto pastoooo" "ohhh porfavor porfavor porfavor!" the only thing missing is having one of her arms raised.
Her brain mixing italians and spanish together makes it even funnier.

>> No.3100127

>>3096141
Juan suscribed 3000 times.

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Doki doki

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>>3054937

>> No.3102615

Dislikes are very low on this stream.

>> No.3102694

>>3102615
The chinese are now unable to spam her streams

>> No.3102877

>>3099237

Spanish does sound a lot like Italian

t. Spanish speaker

>> No.3103028

>>3102694
zhangs giving up?

>> No.3103085

>>3103028
No, youtube updated their security system and it detects automated chat responses. Also her hotpockets are very good at cleaning spam

>> No.3103314

>>3102877
now I hate spics even more

>> No.3103512

>>3063723
>>3065897
More and more people are slowly just talking about Hololive in general instead of Coco now lol

>> No.3103549

>>3103512
In a good or bad way? (Regarding the Chinese side of things)

>> No.3103594

>>3103549
So far seems to be mixed? Although I don't fully understand them

>> No.3103613

>>3103549
They're trying to hurt Coco through the company rather than going against her directly but seeing Suisei, they're about to be as successful as they usually are.

>> No.3103632

>>3103613
So they’re trying to get the other holos to hate her again?
Worked so well the last time kek

>> No.3103665

>>3103632
More like "watch your friends suffer" like some fucking comic book villain.

>> No.3103791

>>3103665
They’re still under the impression it’s some fancy blacklist or whitelist and not YouTube changing it’s system huh?

>> No.3103818

>>3103665
What do they expect to happen? It's annoying but it's barely an inconvenience

>> No.3104097

>>3103818
Coco's graduation, YAGOO's dogeza and Hololive resuming activities on Bilibili while praising the chinese audience.

>> No.3109130

>>3092736
bebo, bebo, bebo, bebo....

>> No.3109172

>>3096141

HoloEs Incoming

>> No.3109274

>>3067539

This week, we also saw some small Indie Youtubers attacked

All of them, Japanese Vtubers pandering to Spanish fans

Etona, for example, had to put on private her last stream

So it seems like it was "retaliation" for supporting Coco stream

>> No.3110481

>>3109274
Ah, the dying cries of zhangs...

>> No.3110862

>>3109274
Chang Chong with no honor as always

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>>3109274
bug, you have lost, at least accept your defeat with dignity

>> No.3113154

>>3109274
>bugs picking a fight with the Spanish fanbase
oh they sorely underestimate what Juan can do whenthey get in the way of his waifus

>> No.3114408

>>3112538
>Acting like HoloEN had anything to do with the chinkening when they were quarantined far away from Coco
This image is so fucking stupid and inaccurate I'm convinced it's going to be on the next meme review.

>> No.3115756

>>3113154
I've seen Juans on other holo streams lately too

>> No.3117171

>>3096814
Basilisk with Noel is kino

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/n21ufa/no_hint_this_time/

>> No.3117435

>>3096814
Yeah, but i also loved https://youtu.be/2lC3prJYbOQ?t=4529
These kind of songs really fit her voice

>> No.3119227

>>3109274
zhangs vs spics

lmao how epic

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>>3109274
That's fucked up. Etona seems nice.

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>>3117435

she WILL watch gundam

>> No.3120593

>>3120199
Any day now, just needs a little more tatsunoko bullying.

>> No.3120709

>>3099230
I'm not super great at telling races apart but her roommate is pretty clearly Asian or at least half Asian.

>> No.3121814

>>3114408
Seething

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>>3096905
You don't happen to remember which one, do you?

>> No.3122454

>>3066322
she does, sometimes. Just fluctuates a lot

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>>3062098
kek, I kneel to ESbros

>> No.3122632

>>3122309
I wish I did. It can't be before that video was uploaded and I imagine whichever stream it was probably has someone timestamping it in the comments.

>> No.3122892

>>3109274
Wow, that's sad. Was it the same Hololive-related criticism and random nonsense they hit Coco with or did they change it up?

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>>3122559

>> No.3123302

>>3056257
Siempre vamos a defender a La Patrona del los ojirasgados maoistas

>> No.3123448

>>3122892
Not really, I saw a bot spamming a gorilla emoji with the n-word, and another one who spammed two lines of chinese. Never got to translate the message of the last one.

>> No.3124295

>>3109274
wait, are they gone completely full retard? or just forgot why they attack Coco?
by bullying indies they just prove that Chinese market and its participants are mentally unstable bunch of deranged cucks with "control" complex,
but well, they are not a bright bunch, more they disrupt and spam other creators, youtube will gain more incentive(through dissatisfied creators and fanbases) to crack down on vpn's and spam program detections(which are currently being tested on Coco's channel)

>> No.3124700

>>3112538
>"Red Carpet" Ojisan
That man is my hero.

>> No.3124747

>>3124295
The chinks don't know it yet but they will cause their own demise.

>> No.3124868

>>3124295
it took them this long? one would think that they would have noticed their average comment quality decades ago

>> No.3124903

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>> No.3124950

>>3124868
the thing is youtube don't care, spam excessively was present only in Coco's case, when they started appearing on other channels the problem naturally got bigger and harder to ignore, so finally youtube took actions

>> No.3125211

>>3124903
Post it in their forum

>> No.3125802

>>3066016
I know you are Enma or someone related to her because no one in 4chan think like this but good point. Keep being based and tell leechs like Trash Taste btfo.

>> No.3125805

>>3124950
what is excessive spamming in this case? any vtuber chat i have seen so far has been pure spam. even the most retarded poster of this site would not be able to produce what the average vtuber stream chatter can

>> No.3125871

>>3067539
Why Suisei

>> No.3125963

>>3125871
She started imitating Coco during the collab APEX stream with festival

>> No.3127755

>>3124950
It's honestly unbelievable that Youtube let it go on for so long. Any other streaming platform in the world would have done something after a day or two.

>> No.3128019
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>said she was going to stream less on april
>ended up having the highest streaming hours
Sasuga Kaichou

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>>3128019
better quality image

>> No.3128122

>>3114408
no matter the managers, we will never forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2U5y4wUiDA

>> No.3128341

China will win this revolutionary war against hololive and kiryu coco!

>> No.3128384

Coco is finally playing with tatsunokos.
This should be good.

>> No.3128416

>>3128384
Well, I didn't see this coming.

>> No.3130256

>>3128384
That HR 169 guy though jesas

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>>3128019
>>3128068

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Me on the bottom.

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>>3132335
Me on the left

>> No.3134872

That tax-evasion ASMR has to come someday

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>>3128019
She should take it easier.

>> No.3145341

>>3124747
Until one year ago I was brainwashed enough to think that China was literally a better place than the US. After the incident I realized that the mainlanders working at my company were just as brainwashed as I was.
Got one fired last month.
>feels good man

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Lolico...

>> No.3150102
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>>3150080
Coco baby made me forget how cute Coco loli is

>> No.3157657

https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1388671466753773568?s=19

SHE'S HERE.

>> No.3158221
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3158221

WAIT. What the hell happened here?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyd6quCBX34

I've been catching up with her meme collabs and, what the fuck? Twice near the end of this stream you can hear what I assume to be Yagoo saying something twice before it get exactly MIRRORED by Coco
>50:10 - はい。
>50:39 - えーと。。 そうですね。
I can only assume that one, either everything she says is actually scripted, or the urban legend that Yagoo is doing all the voices himself is actually true.

Either way, my world just got shattered.

>> No.3158262

>>3158221
are you actually this fucking dumb?
thats her using her yagoo soundboard that her used in her shitpost review "yagoo" edition

>> No.3158357

>>3158262
>her shitpost review "yagoo" edition
Haven't seen it yet. Ok, was wondering too if that was her messing with people, but the fact that there was no mention of this in the comment got me confused.

>> No.3158449

>>3158221

anonchama...

>> No.3158569

Bug update: They have mostly knelt to the iron curtain, so their main plan now is to just tweet a lot. If you have free time and would like to go through Coco's tags and report them you can literally suck away their money. They have to buy twitter accounts after all. Their other plans are to just keep spamming and hope it magically starts working, or to make new Youtube accounts and pretend to be normal fans to trick the AI and then spam with them. Their programmer dudes supposedly put a report of their findings on the new anti-spam feature in the message system of their spam program but I'm not installing that shit on my computer. I would assume it's incorrect anyway.

Other than that there's not much happening over there. There was a bunch of coping about the April vtuber superchat chart which shows Hololive domination which included some lame motivational speeches. They've mostly just been jerking each other off in anticipation of Cover's next financial report.

>> No.3158609

>>3066322
>Kind of sad she is letting go of her heritage.
Talking like your cheeks are full of wet cotton is not heritage, anon.

>> No.3158612

>>3115756
Latino fanbase is way bigger than what you might expect

>> No.3158767

>>3158569
>its true
check this insanity out
what a boring life
https://twitter.com/NicoleA94159517

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she shot back to those who shat on her reddit streams

>> No.3160343

>>3158569
They’re gonna be disappointed if they expect Covers financials to be hurting after the EN boom.

>> No.3160384

>>3158449
Yeah I apologized, like I said I'm catching up.

>>3159668
Funny that this is a thing. What got me into the meme streams in the first place wasn't even the memes but mostly how Coco acts like a bridge to the foreign communities for the girls.
To be fair anyone knows that the reddit memes are mostly shit, which is why she handpicks what's shown fortunately.

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>Buying Shutterstock image
Reddit naked dogeza please. Also how many SC spam Coco get ?

>> No.3162286

>>3159668
She finally noticed the cocohater on /jp/

>> No.3162713

>>3162088
wait, was that not a joke?
i never thought about it, but if someone makes a meme with a shutterstock image, does that mean that cover corp has to actually pay for the image to prevent copyright bullshit that might come?

>> No.3163239

>>3128068
Jesus Christ Pekora streams a lot. Korone's always doing endurance streams and playing RPGs for 14 hours straight so I assumed she'd be the one with the most hours streamed but Pekora is a machine wtf

>> No.3163403

>>3162088
I can barely comprehend anything that's on this image. This another one of their dumb schemes, or are they admitting that it's becoming harder to actually do shit and just grasping for straws?

>> No.3163438

>>3162088
The top one is talking about dislikes right?

>> No.3163652

>>3163403
if what ive heard is right, they talk "in code" so from what i can understand following that logic, theyre grieving over the fact that they cant use bots to spam anymore, but are hopeful that in the future they could find a bug to exploit and spam again.

the second comment, from what i could tell, is about celebrating tiny victories instead of making coco graduate, that bit about "did we make her suffer" gives it away. but this kid is already tired of wasting his time on this pointless bullshit so theyre stopping. good for him, chink cunt

>> No.3163976

>>3162286
There's like two or three on twitter, and at least two on the reddit as well. I'm assuming one from each is the same as ours, but I don't have enough evidence to make that claim with certainty.

>> No.3164225

>>3163403
>>3163438
>>3163652
Steps means dislike, as in "step on the video". Fun usually refers to spamming or other schizo anti activities, they say they're "having fun". Building is forum thread. I have no idea what sentences 2 and 3 of the top post are supposed to mean though. The last two he says that no matter what happens they will still be able to harass chinese companies who collab with Hololive and at least give a few dislikes to every Coco video.
The second post is basically coping. "Even though we completely failed our goal (make Coco graduate and Hololive go out of business), we at least annoyed Coco for a while."
>>3163976
It's referring to some reddit post, you can see it if you look at her profile on there.

>> No.3164477

Gonna be interesting to see how the upcoming collab with Kanata, Botan, and Lamy'll turn out post anti-spam measures. I know Pochi and Suisei both got hit, but I've heard the spam apparently wasn't that disruptive compared to the past instances, is it? If worse comes to worse though, a little bit more cash right in their pockets.

>> No.3164490

>>3158569
I went through and reported what I could find, before twitter seemingly just gave up processing my reports. Also, perhaps related, but it seems the chinks are trying to pin the blame on actual kiryukai by impersonating them. For example, here is one actual kiryukai, a member for over a year https://twitter.com/KiRATiNA_K/

Then here are the impersonators
https://twitter.com/KiRATlNA_K
https://twitter.com/KiRATiNA___K

More unrelated is that a lot of the chink accounts retweet a lot of american politics stuff, specifically Biden

>> No.3164612

>>3162286
There are way more coco haters here on this board because anyone who even remotely criticizes coco on jp is immediately called a chink and shut down.
Asacoco is literally what created hlg.
This tweet was in response to some comments on reddit (she even replied to them there)

>> No.3164633

>>3158569
Been prowling Twitter for months with the flyswatter, will continue then. Thank you anon!

>> No.3164660

>>3164612
Ogey new ip

>> No.3164741

>>3127755
Please understand, they have only one Indian programmer

>> No.3164902

>>3164490
Funny story about that. Fairly early on in their spam campaign they collectively decided that they can make their accounts less likely to get banned if they pretend to act like normal users, which to them apparently means tweet about politics. So all their bots started retweeting shit from the president before they go on their spam rampage. This ended up backfiring hilariously in January when twitter banned Trump, several of them lost a bunch of accounts because they were unknowingly retweeting election misinformation. They still use the same strategy though, so if you see Biden tweets and then Coco tags it's a dead giveaway where the account came from.

>> No.3164956

>>3164902
That's fucking hilarious

>> No.3164983

>>3164225
You know, those guys are probably feeling REAL awkward that Coco's first (and probably only) reply of them is their post complaining about her content. It's a certain level of shame like being caught with your pants down. Makes you wonder too about the times she can't do anything but watch when the redditors sperg out and whiteknight in her stead for the wrong reasons.

Couldn't catch the stream live, though, but was there anything off about Coco's behavior relating to this and her Tweet? I know it's THAT place, but the thread over at /jp's been freaking out over her comments.

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>>3158221
Yagoobros... she was RIGHT

>> No.3165197

>>3164660
Sure thing taiwanese vpn ip

>> No.3165394

>>3164983
Didn't really notice anything off. In fact she reintroduced the personality graph meme from last time with some people in different places so she more or less doubled down on the longer memes.
The people complaining are too stupid to realize that meme review is just as much as an introduction to western meme culture to the guests as it is a shitpost review.
No shit she's going to use a tier list or personality chart / meme because the guest is curious as to how they and their coworkers are depected by foreigners.

>> No.3165552

>>3164490
Isn’t this guy the biggest chinese fan of Coco?

>> No.3165601

>>3165552
If it is, it would explain why I saw multiple accounts impersonating him. Though I don't know what chinks are trying to accomplish by keeping his real steam profile linked, which in turn links his real twitter.

>> No.3165619

>>3165394
She sounded kinda pissed when she said she purchased the stock photo from shutterstock.
Imagine actually spending time, making a new overlay for the stream, finding only unfunny shit, paying to use said unfunny shit, and then you find a redditor complaining about your stream.
And just yesterday she spoke so much about how hard it can be to try to stay positive all the time.

>> No.3166241

>>3165394
Supposed those anons were blowing things out of proportion, as expected. Find it a bit odd that she'd go out of her way to say this stuff, but then again I reckon it'll be an issue she'll have to address sooner or later.

>>3165619
And right when I was typing this. After months of putting up with garbage, I guess she's feeling done with some randos in context that she had to pay for some memes on top of sorting through the same stuff again. And she was being nice about it, too.
And I'll repeat it again, it makes you wonder how she feels whenever the idiots sperg out in her stead for the completely wrong reasons, but obviously can't say anything about it.
Whatever the case, I hope those morons don't blow it out of proportion again and just let it die by next week. Just enjoy the collab in a few hours and chill.

>> No.3166287

>>3164984
>he's not simping for Yagoo
Oh nononononono

>> No.3166305

>>3165619
you're looking too deep into it.

>> No.3166351

Is Coco tail canonically inside her asshole?

>> No.3166597
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Kaichou thumbail for the monhun collab kek

>> No.3166677

>>3166351
Yes.

>> No.3166762

>>3166351
No

>> No.3166822 [DELETED] 

>>3166351
Yes, which just makes my boner even stronger every time I see lolicoco art>>3166597

>> No.3166858

>>3166351
Yes, which just makes my boner even stronger every time I see lolicoco art

>> No.3166891

>>3165601
He's a fan from Taiwan who translates some Coco clips. I think he entered the bug's radar after he uploaded a translation of her Live2D update, which they attacked with spambots. He went there once and made fun of them but was immediately banned I think. They now occasionally call him out by name and name some of their bots after him.

>> No.3167013

>>3165619
>>3166241
She's putting on a performance as entertainer, there's bound to be criticism, some even justified.
Why hasn't Coco learnt yet maybe not to pick out and get sad about the insignificant number of complaining comments?
You can't make everyone happy, but paying attention to and wasting mental energy on this is stupid. If doing the meme review gets too exhausting, she should just stop.

>> No.3167061

i'm ready to shicoshico to kanalamy

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>>3167061
Understandable, have a great day!

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>>3166305
So she wasn't actually upset?

>> No.3167255

>>3167225
there is an entire spectrum of emotions between "cares enough to make a glib reply" and "weeping and gnashing of teeth". the only place that cares anymore is /vt/.

>> No.3167259

>>3167225
Upset about the retards complaining maybe, but upset about the shutterstock pic nah.

>> No.3167333

>>3167225
and no, she doesn't "sound pissed". the shutterstock thing is supposed to be funny. your post reads like a rrat starved concernfag.

>> No.3167411

What does Coco's armpits smell like?

>> No.3167449

So Lamy biggest inspiration to join hololive and do morning stream is coco huh... feels bad they couldn’t collab sooner because of the chink arc

https://youtu.be/7629AQmzT-4

>> No.3167469

>>3167225
I love when measured constructive criticism gets downvoted so nobody can actually see it, what a great site leddit is

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>>3167411
unknown, but multiple holo members have commented that when they met Coco IRL, she smelled good.

>> No.3167642

>>3167469
Yeah, that wasn't even too mean. I guess anything other than hugboxxing isn't allowed, as seen by Kaichou seeking out those comments.

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>>3167469
Too bad Reddit is the one enabler tier list meme and other shit. So Coco stuck with meme like that

>> No.3167917

>>3167411
Coco is woman who put appearance on the first. She's not afraid buying expensive cosmetic product and hygiene. So yeah it's smell nice.

>> No.3171189

>>3167225
>redditor EOP who doesn't understand that Coco also explains references to previous memes and running memes to the guest

>> No.3173739

>>3164477
Look like they aren't taking any chances

>> No.3173821

>>3173739
And Coco's also joining them, too. Guess it would look awkward for the other three to set up members chat while Coco's is clean as a whistle. Did she mention something at the very start? Saw a whole bunch of OKs in the chat when I got in.

>> No.3173885

>>3173821
Don't know, I was getting food

>> No.3174017

>>3173821
She didn't but everyone is used to responding OK.

>> No.3174258

The angry boys have just arrived at the conclusion that the bug spray feature on Coco's channel is a glitch which is also preventing thousands of fans from chatting, so they're actually winning. An expert on American culture also showed up to let everyone know that Coco is a wigger.

>> No.3174286

>>3174258
c o p e

>> No.3174289

>>3174258
The cope is real.
Gotta invent your own reality to claim victory now.

>> No.3174308

>>3174258
>Coco is a wigger
Then what the hell is Mori to them?

>> No.3174494

>>3174258
>The solo MH stream that she did literally right before the collab was completely fine.
>Nah, it's totally a glitch that's harming her viewers.

They're gonna be disappointed again when she's back to a regular stream tomorrow or so.

>> No.3174786

>>3174308
I wonder what the chinks think of EN? Who am I kidding though, it’s probably something like “western dogs bad”

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>>3167476
I bet

>> No.3176437

>>3174786
I've never seen them talk about them, they only get mentioned in numberfag discussions.

>> No.3178995

Out of curiosity, I went through coco's twitter hashtags again, and found chinks doxxing botan and lamy
That just seems like a good way to never get what they want

>> No.3179091

>>3178995
>messing with the yakuza princess
And I'm not talking about coco

>> No.3179128

>>3178995
At this point they probably just want Hololive to crash and burn.

>> No.3179302

>>3178995
I've spent enough time on twitter that i've seen them use every single dox out there.
They use Matsuri and Noel doxxes too.

>> No.3179418

>>3179302
I shouldn't even be surprised. They're just fucking themselves over.

I wonder if twitter even responds to these kind of reports seriously.

>> No.3179419

>>3066575
>Ame would start spamming the Tiananmen copypasta
Fuck, I can see this happening.

>> No.3179451

>>3179418
twitter wont, china has 40% stocks on twitter and if they ban those chink then the #stopasianhate agenda will get lit

>> No.3179500

>>3179418
Twitter has a vested interest in not pruning bots.
The only thing they can show off to their advertisers and investors is the amount of users and video views the site generates.

>> No.3179512

>>3179302
Doxxing Matsuri and Noel is like pissing into an ocean of piss

>> No.3179589

>>3115756
I mean, I'm a Juan living in Juanland, I just always comment in english.

>> No.3179674

>>3128122
Gura is a good Shark.

>> No.3179985

>>3174258
I love these schyzos report, I can never predict the contents of their cope

>> No.3180022

>>3167476
I wonder how Kanatan smells in comparison...or maybe Kanatan has that small girl musk bonus?

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>>3179985
here, have some sweet copium

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Kaichou had a lot of fun, i love this group hope they keep doing more of these collabs and as Lamy said play other games too.
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1388883952224456705

>> No.3180912

>>3180022
Kanatan used to be a hikki so she must smell of unwashed hair and sweat.

>> No.3181177

>>3180096
>the moment we become clowns we can't lose
fucking KEK

>> No.3181220

>>3181177
Artia’s clown pepe before she graduated is starting to make sense now...

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>>3178995
Yeah, it’s a shame but they are just setting their own ass on fire.

>> No.3181307

>>3178995
>lamy
good way to get concrete shoes
also yukimin are up there with watamates as the most rabidly protective fanbase

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>> No.3187004

>>3181268
Kek that Japanese leg spread

>> No.3187981

>>3066575
>gura would freak out

freak out in what way?

>> No.3191543

>>3181220
They depicted themselves as clowns on unicycles from the start

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>>3178995
>Messing with Lamy
That's retarded way to die

>> No.3192166

>>3179128
>>3179302
Jokes on them, at this point a whole bunch are probably used to the facedoxes by now. That and you'd have to be deliberately looking for them on Twitter in the first place unlike Youtube finding its way to you.

>>3179091
Always wanted to ask, but where did the Lamy Yakuza princess stuff come from? Another fun rrat like Reine's death squad?

>> No.3193669

>>3192166
Lamy Yakuza stuff came from the way she talks about her life and addresses her dad. Lamy also said her dad payed tens of thousands for her streaming set up out of pocket so she could continue her hobby (KU100 is at least $9k alone). She apparently has very stereotypical rich girl hobbies as well.
When the Janitor thing happened on NND, when they started attacking and doxxing Lamy the whole thing got nuked apparently.
At the very least her family is very rich.

>> No.3193719

>>3193669
Forgot to mention that Polka said that Lamy lives in a huge house as well.

>> No.3194402

>>3167225
>that downvote ratio
Jesus. I mean, those guys are not totally wrong.

Personally I think the --best-- memes to show are the charts because one they are easily relatable to the guess, whether the chart is wrong or not, and also it gives them reasons and topics to talk about the girls.
That, or some Haachaama memes. For some reason Haachaama memes always seem to be on point because of her chaotic nature.

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>>3194402
Memes that get Kaichou and the guest to talk about different holomen have always been my favorite part of the stream.
I still see people complain about that long anime meme she showed to Pekora and honestly i don't get it, hearing them trying to rationalize each choice was really fun.
Makes me wonder if some of them are just EOPs who watch it live and don't even take the dialogue between Coco and the guest into account.
Not gonna lie, i enjoyed watching her get a bit angry at those posts, she's always trying to hide that side of hers and i appreciate every chance i get to see it as long as it's something silly like this.

>> No.3195275

>>3193669
>When the Janitor thing happened on NND, when they started attacking and doxxing Lamy the whole thing got nuked apparently.

Didn't think it'd escalated that much when I thought Lamy and Polka just had to wait it out for a few days. Those petty assholes really tried putting Gen 5 into another ringer with this doxxing shit, huh. If the whole thing got silenced in one fell swoop, that's some timing though.

>> No.3195370

>>3194402
nah, they are mostly wrong
first, meme review is a stream to show and explain western memes (of official hololive subreddit) to japanese audience and holos who are not familiar with either jokes that we are acusstomed and formats of them, it's not theirs hugebox but they acting like it is.
second, as for the materials she have, she is doing a rather good job, but well, sometimes she seem to not understand memes herself. But bear that in mind, she have to explain and translate jokes to a clueles person with almost zero knowlege about western internet jokes, it's not that simple and easy.
third, jokes are stale, but that's the problem of those who make them.
fourth, she have to choose memes that are relativly easy to explain, so repetition was inevitable, but also that's on reddit, they make fuckton of the same jokes.
fifth, due to limitation and copyright issues she can's show most of them, no matter how funny they are, film cuts, photos, anime, as was presented in current meme review, she had to buy stock images just to feature a meme.

>> No.3196099

>>3195370
An off-problem is probably her trying to find a viable long-term replacement for both meme review and Asacoco.

>> No.3196310

>>3193669
You forgot her house which typically Yakuza Head family house

>> No.3196440

>>3196099
with current hololive and its restrictions, i doubt she will do any morning show.
Kanata had to postpone/cancell her show that features only hololive in a good light, but couldn't do it cause all things that could be presented had to be consulted with managment and individual holo managers, with is mad when you think about it.
it's sad really, i liked asacoco, slightly dark jokes, cm's and banters....

>> No.3197010

Chinese learning stream when

>> No.3197047

>>3197010
simplified or traditional?

>> No.3197099

>>3181268
Based Italy, never liked em.

>> No.3197380

>>3197047
traditional

>> No.3197410

>>3197010
About as likely as Nene using her old costume again

>> No.3199848

>>3195275
What also really helped was Lamy getting rid of that dickhead that originally managed all of gen5. For all the kusodad posting that Aloefags do in their little asylum there's not near enough mention of that fucker. Things were rough for all of them at the start.

>> No.3200033

>>3199848
>Original Gen5 manager was a cunt
I don't even want to archive rep that story, especially with the whole Mel's harrasser thing still a stain with Cover

>> No.3200441

>>3200033
Cover getting their assholes ripped open for their incompetent and sometimes inexcusable managment decisions is long standing tradition for a reason. It wasn't in Mel territory unless I'm forgetting something but it was awful in it's own way. Think the worst aspects of modern Japanese work culture and ethic combined with clearly not giving a fuck about the talents as human beings awful.

>> No.3203463

Get some sleep Kumichou...

>> No.3204627

>>3181307
Yes
t. both

>> No.3204671

>>3193719
The huge house shit adds fuel to my funny schizo dox retardation

>> No.3204764

>>3197010
Do Taiwanese speak Chinese? She can learn for them.

>> No.3204792

>>3112538
Top kek

>> No.3205337

So in relations to that stuff with the meme review reddit responses and some discussion threads on here, you think it's something important for Coco to find something new or creative to spice up her content? I know she's obviously a bit tied up with being unable to do Asacoco and the limited selection of memes, but it's something I've noticed time to time and elsewhere that 'creativity' is brought up for the sake of channel growth or to bring something new to the table to avoid stagnation (or in this case, the complaints of the memes).

Then again, you could also argue that some of the Holos are comfortable with what they're doing and having fun without having to worry about growth, like the simple fact that Coco's able to enjoy her time one-on-one with a guest or how almost everyone's hopped on the Monster Hunter wave.

Though I'm probably reading way too much about a bunch of anons on here. Especially since she's hit off well with the Spanish streams.

>> No.3205872
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>>3205337
I'm just glad to be able to watch her streams, that's really more than enough for me, as long as she's having fun i'm having fun.
Regarding her channel growth, she's still in a "weather the storm" mode and isn't really in a position to go all in on something new, i don't think she needs it either, it's perfectly fine to just stream games/zatsudans/utawakus with a random stream here and there like say her USDA cooking stream, what she did back in the day wasn't sustainable and as Kanata's recent incident with management proved, something like asacoco would be impossible nowdays.
Meme review is fine, don't see a reason to drop it.
She streamed nearly 30 more hours than any other holo last month so i really can't complain she's giving it her all.

I just hope kanalamyshicoshico becomes a thing and they stream more games together, the more she collabs the better for her.

>> No.3205951
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3205951

She herself seems to have forgotten to tweet about it but today is the last day to order the smartphone case.

>> No.3206978
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3206978

Coco's fat tits!

>> No.3207426 [SPOILER] 
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3207426

The zhangs have doxxed Coco's father
this is him

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>>3207426
PPD is literally shenron.
Coco is half American half Zhang

>> No.3208321

>>3207426
He can't keep getting away with it

>> No.3208765

>>3207426
Shenron IS Zhang

>> No.3208885

>>3205337
I think the meme review complainers don't really understand how difficult it is to explain some of the shit that they post. Often times the humor in the meme relies completely on some meta transformation of the format that it is presented in, which you won't understand or find funny if you haven't seen other memes in the original format. The tier lists aren't really the funniest content, but they are completely stand-alone, and at worst they're at least still interesting for the guests since they give some insight on the foreign fans' perception of the girls.

>> No.3212688

coco is so fucking cute when she's playing minecraft holy goddamn shit

>> No.3219901

>>3208272
Please stop spreading this retarded narrative, thanks.

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>>3212688
She's very child-like when she plays minecraft

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Howdy Sugars

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More cute OPs please
Otsudragon!

>> No.3224203

Shion collab?

>> No.3224493

>>3224203
Shiryugumi was so much fun and then it disappeared all of a sudden.

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