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30434237 No.30434237 [Reply] [Original]

Why exactly Kiara not the biggest in EN.

>Streams more than the rest
>Streams longer than anyone
>Collabs more than anyone
>Most caring and protective of her fans
>Has to put up with the most bs
>Openly stands up to cover when she has to
>Speaks fluent Japanese yet never alienates English audience
>Genuinely has passion for V-Tubing and the community and clearly plans to do it long term
>Based taste in games
>Variety of on going stream
>Easy to keep up with and communicates her emotions on Social media so fans know what's going on
>Super loving to her friends

The chicken is simply the best and has been for a while she's more than my oshi she is leader of the community

>> No.30434430

>>30434237
Its quite a simple answer really and the answer in question essentially determines how successful a chuuba will be and that answer is PERSONALITY

>> No.30434508

ill watch her when she streams something interesting

>> No.30434518

>>30434237
Hard work doesn't always work out.

>> No.30434533 [DELETED] 

>>30434237
Stupid austrian. If she was polish, it would probably be better. Plus I do not feel bad because her roommate genuinely needs to get raped and I mean real rape, not the kind she secretly enjoys

>> No.30434560

>>30434430
fpbp

>> No.30434616

>>30434430
fpbp

>> No.30434617

She's annoying.

>> No.30434711

>>30434237
2 things.

1. Her personality comes across rude af.
2. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

>> No.30434757

Chicken voice. It's such a simple fix

>> No.30434833

>>30434430
How anyone would like Mori's personality over Kiara's is beyond me and I don't even watch Kiara.
Mori's just a giant ungrateful dipshit asshole.

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>>30434237
>Never alienates English audience
Are we forgetting she alienated a lot of people by switching between Japanese and English a lot when she first debuted? Heck, she even cried and got called out for it in her first few streams because of it.

>> No.30434898

>>30434833
Ogey, threadreader

>> No.30434971

>>30434833
Shes the 2nd highest subbed Vtuber in the world. Not liking her is a you problem.

>> No.30435001

>>30434237
attention seeker

>> No.30435006

That voice just filters me too hard. People say Fauna's voice is a hard filter but, nah, Kiara's voice is like a wall covered in spikes.

>> No.30435285

>>30434237
>voice is dogshit
>design is questionable
>personality
She puts in the work but some things, you just can't overcome with hard work.

>> No.30435376

Kiara can be annoying as fuck, especially in group collabs where she becomes "ME!ME!ME!". The UNO stream where Kiara was a baby for nearly an hour was pure hell.

>> No.30435432
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30435432

>>30434971
Uh, no she isn't because she removed the vtuber tag from her channel a few months ago.
Apparently she doesn't think she's a vtuber or something.

>> No.30435529

Why doesn't the biggest vtuber simply EAT the other ones?

>> No.30435652

i honestly believe if she would JUST soften her voice a bit she would get popular

>> No.30435656

>>30434711
this

>> No.30435708

>>30434237
she the most superchatted, money is actually the best metric to compare

>> No.30435742

i respect the work she puts in, but watching a single collab stream was enough for me to realize how fucking rancid her personality is

>> No.30435953

>>30434237
I don't want to get called as an employee after work

>> No.30436038

>>30434237
>Why exactly Kiara not the biggest in EN.
She's often the biggest in terms of superchat revenue. You could say she has the lowest number of casual fans but her audience values her the most out of anyone in EN. Other girls have a bigger casual audience but are valued much less.

>> No.30436044

>>30434237
>Why not the biggest?
That's exactly KFPs and Kiara problem
Absolutely no self awareness
You are the absolute bottom
You can't even beat Ina and you're talking about being the biggest
Know your place

>> No.30436079

she's neurotic, blunt, narcissistic, and competitive, and thats why she's actually too based for normies

>> No.30436137

>>30435529
This.
>>30435432
Kiara is secretly goth. Labels are for society. Like, be yourself. *hair flip*

>> No.30436171

>>30434237
The same reason most ID talents have a debuff. Retarded EOP Americans cannot register foreign accents in their brain.

>> No.30436223

>>30435432
A lot of holomems only use the hololive tag and not the vtuber tag. That list also does not contain many other holomems.

>> No.30436284

>>30435708
This month. Its due to her birthday 3D.

>> No.30436297

>>30434237
She simply lacks charisma. I can appreciate her attitude and the work she puts in, but at the end of the day she just doesn't have the same kind of natural charisma that bigger chubas have. She's gotten a lot better, but she's always had some difficulty in reading the flow of social situations and acting accordingly. And frankly her voice just really doesn't help.

>> No.30436427

>>30436044
>You are the absolute bottom
Money is the only number that matters in the end, eggchama. Ina isn't sitting there thinking "Kiara earns way more money than I do but I've got more graynames in chat so I win".

>> No.30436505

>>30436297
>She simply lacks charisma.
I simply cannot understand where one could possibly get such an incorrect observation, Kiara is anything but lacking in charisma. Just take a look at how she performs whenever she's in front of a live audience, she's the ONLY en that's actually capable of corralling a crowd, and in collabs she's one of the best at tardwrangling and bringing out reactions from her partners.
It's the complete reverse of reality to say Kiara doesn't have charisma.

>> No.30436522

>>30436284
>This month.
A lot of other months, too. She keeps trading places with Mori as the most superchatted EN.

>> No.30436637

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>> No.30436644

>>30434237
>Streams longer than anyone
Ironically it's often a debuff. 2-3 hour daily stream is probably ideal for algorithm.
>Speaks fluent Japanese yet never alienates English audience
She kinda did alienate English audience at beginning. Got better at it.
>Based taste in games
Like? She went hard on JRPGs in past that are just terrible to stream.

But let's add negatives
>Voice
Her voice can be easy dealbreaker for people.
>Personality
Just like voice can be dealbreaker. She can come as little pushy for newcomers.
>Stream times
What audience she targets? SEA? EU? Her streaming time is all over the place.

>> No.30436717

>>30436505
>I simply cannot understand where one could possibly get such an incorrect observation
Anon, this is an egg thread. Most of the posts are from unmedicated schizos who don't actually watch Kiara.

>> No.30436755

its literally the voice

>> No.30436804

>>30436505
while i she definitely does not lack, i wouldnt say she's particularly charismatic either. she just cant stop talking. for a solo stream this is amazing, for collabs its annoying

>> No.30436807
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30436807

>>30436297
This, she even pointed out that the most recognized chuubas are blue as a reason for their success.

>> No.30436808

Charisma is not earned through hard work. You either have it or you don't. I'm sorry but that's how the world works.

Kiara is the hardest working EN, Gura is the laziest. But Gura has "it" and Kiara doesn't.

>> No.30436905

>>30436807
That was a joke you fucking tard.

>> No.30436912

>>30434711
This absolutely. I can appreciate and agree that she probably works the hardest and seems to be the most serious about wanting to be a vtuber/idol. I want to like her but can't. It's because her personality comes off rude and it also feels forced. Obviously others do put on an act too but somehow theirs feels more natural. And then there is her voice. While i can enjoy Pekora and her squeaky voice i absolutely get annoyed by Kiara's. She could tone down the squeaky voice just a little bit and it would already be a big improvement.

>> No.30436937

It's interesting to see KFP and non-KFP are seeing different worlds
I guess Kiara is just too based for the commons? Just like every other unpopular things?

>> No.30436951

>ctrl+f Charisma
>7 results
Is that the new discord cope?

>> No.30436977

>>30436522
>>30436427
>>30436038
Anons who brought up Superchat argument are absolute retards. Chuubas can't boast about SC since it will make them look like douchebag. Casuals won't even check SC stats. SC is not reflection of popularity.

>> No.30436978

>>30436905
was it actually? you can sense her coping and seething during it

>> No.30437012

>>30436808
kek. Suddenly out of nowhere, a narrative that Kiara has a bad personality and lacks charisma is getting pushed. Can't you discord trannies make your coordinated attacks a little less obvious?

>> No.30437122

>>30434430
Yeah she needs to be more ironic to actually be popular with the Redditors that is the majority of HoloEN watchers

>> No.30437156

work smarter not harder
>Like many streamers, do you ever experience burnout? How do you combat it? Gura: I go outside! I stop streaming!

>> No.30437198

Plenty of reasons :

> Initial design is mid
>Debuff games, she almost never streams popular games
>Mid singer, even in EN (low tier if we add jap)
>She had an habit to Me Me Me Me is collab that was painful (it's way better now and she is good in collab but it's too late)
>Stream at Euro hours, debuff hours

>> No.30437223

>>30436977
Best metric to show how cult-like the fanbase is

>> No.30437269

>>30436977
Sorry egg, but popularity doesn't put food on the table or pay the bills. Setting aside the fact that the least popular member of EN is still one of the most popular vtubers in the world, Kiara excels at quite literally the only number that's worth anything. Cash fucking money. She wins.

>> No.30437312

>>30436977
doesnt matter; money talks, bullshit walks. any faget on the internet can hit subscribe
the superchat rankings currently are mori > kiara >>>>>>>>> the rest of myth

>> No.30437352

>>30437012
how is it a narrative when it's what people who don't really like her have been saying since day one? cool, she puts in hard work, but it doesn't matter to me when i find her fucking intolerable to listen to

>> No.30437462

>>30437012
>narrative
KFP are so delusional. There is a reason she is last in Myth despite being the hardest working by far. She has a grating, numberfag personality. If you like it that's fine, but to pretend otherwise is peak delusion.

>> No.30437521

>>30436808
Nah Gura is just better at pandering to the lowest common denominator

>> No.30437606

>>30434237
If you're not an NA streamer you will get debuffed in EN, unfortunately.

>> No.30437700

>>30437269
>>30437312
>>30434237
So Kiara is already the biggest (in sc)(in some months) and you guys are already satisfied with that. So why made this thread? Why keep complaining? Why made the blue theory? Hmm?

>> No.30437795

>>30437700
>OP is totally not falseflagging
Yeah okay buddy no one falls for your little Discord raid

>> No.30437855

>>30437700
KFP doesn’t even use their split, why do you think they would post on the catalog?

>> No.30437951 [DELETED] 

Kiara - A human garbage who repeats the history of being a schizo bitch which later results in her being left out of everything, deserves a painful death for ruining Myth irreversibly
Mori - I don't think she deserves that amount of haters but the fact is that she's an annoying moron
Ame - A backstabbing two-faced bitch who thinks she's taken the moral high ground siding with human garbage like Kiara, deserves all the haters for what she did recently.
Ina - I don't agree with her nepo hires but she's not popular so whatever right
Mumei - Orcschizo who successfully infiltrated holoEN, says "my time will come" in her rentry (she wants to go the regular schizo way and murder Kiara?? idk but sure hope so), throws one of the most loyal holoEN artists under the bus.
Sana - A quitter who gives hololive her all only when she's about to leave

feel free to prove me wrong (spoiler: you can't, i've done this for almost a month now)

https://files.catbox.moe/b549qy.png
https://rentry.org/qrk9n
https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1550065172718309376

take the red pill

>> No.30437967

If Kiara was in nijiEN she would be one of the lowest streaming members. I think 4th lowest.

>> No.30438016

>doing random archive reps
>>6640334
>1 year ago
Eh.

>> No.30438017

>>30437352
>>30437462
>narrative
"Lack of charisma" and "personality" aren't /vt/'s typical complaints about Kiara in the year 2022. You're just discord trannies trying to force an artificial consensus and it isn't working.

>> No.30438144

30437951
Get a new Rentry, anons have already proven it wrong the first day it was posted on here

Get new bait, you are not trolling anymore you are just being genuinely retarded

>> No.30438157

>>30434237
She stopped doing Holotalk and so I stopped watching her.

>> No.30438165

>>30437951
>feel free to prove me wrong
Your rrat is based on a fanfic, schizo friend.

>> No.30438189

>>30438017
oh, you're an unironic schizo. enjoy your lackluster oshi!

>> No.30438210

>>30434237
I acknowledge her as the hardest working EN but I just can't get into her content, sorry.
I wish the best for her. Honestly I think she's just one or two viral moments from getting bigger if that's any consolation.

>> No.30438301

>>30438189
>you're an unironic schizo
Careful not to hurt yourself with all that projection

>> No.30438327

>>30438189
Enjoy your seething at Kiara 24/7

>> No.30438341

>>30434237
doesnt kiara hate that image. the face at least

>> No.30438451

>>30436912
Her greatest tragedy is that she cannot: she was trained to be what was at the time "cute", and as she grew out of the vocal range it became annoying, and anything else she could do with her voice will sound like a zero IQ bimbo.

>> No.30438478

>>30438144
>>30438165
never. let justice be done though the heavens fall.

>> No.30438594

>>30438341
Kiara never said anything about this image.
You must have thought of a click-bait clipper that was attacked by fans and actually defended by Kiara.

>> No.30438624

>>30438478
But before the heavens fall, you should fall off a cliff head first into sharp rocks

>> No.30438668

>>30434237
>Based taste in games
I think that's what is holding her back the most. I see her like Lize from Nijisanji, who is also pretty much the perfect embodiment of what a vtuber is supposed to be, but who only plays boring ass games.

>> No.30438726

>>30436951
Wouldn't personally call it charisma, but she lacks ability to naturally create attention towards herself, yet kinda try to force it anyway. It's what people call "ME ME ME" attitude.
This is something that top JPs like Pekora, Miko, even fucking Aqua do without problems. They're able to steal attention in collab without making it feel forced.

>> No.30438893

>>30438594
oh i thought kiara wasnt fond of that guy’s thumbnails. the content too obviously. borderline making it look like kiara thinks “coolsville sucks” level of blowing things out of context.
>defended him
eh i guess from a pr perspective putting him through the wringer would not have been a good look. that said i sure wouldnt judge her for doing that. id call it based even. fuck clickbaiters

>> No.30439042

>>30438893
If that’s any indication, when she did her new year clips compilation, he was one of the very few channels to not be included.

>> No.30439089

>>30437269
Merch is what puts food on the table.

>> No.30439153

>>30438668
Nothing comes up when I search this person doesn't exist does she not stream anymore?

>> No.30439156

>>30439089
Yes, and sponsorships, wanna talk about that?

>> No.30439242

>>30434237
she's just not entertaining.

>> No.30439284

>>30434711
Worst part is shes putting on a voice
She doesnt normally sound like an abused squeeky toy

>> No.30439578

>>30438668
Do you really compare one of top Niji female talents to one of bottom HoloENs?

>> No.30439624

>>30436808
>Gura has "it"
Define "it"

>> No.30439645

>>30438726
>They're able to steal attention in collab without making it feel forced
Kiara only takes the lead in collabs when her collab partners are too introverted and autistic to speak up. She never tries to stop others from getting attention. They just need to fucking assert themselves and actually go for attention.

>> No.30439781

>>30438726
>It's what people call "ME ME ME" attitude.
I wouldn't describe anyone who uses "mememe" unironically as "people".

>> No.30439787

>>30439089
>Merch is what puts food on the table.
You're pulling that out of your ass.

>> No.30439806

>>30434237
keep this 2K bitch at your containment kfpniggers

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>>30439624
High cholesterol.

>> No.30439860

>>30439645
This is actually true and the JP collabs are proof because there she just plays tsukkomi to JPs antics. She can't do that in EN because everyone's a fucking sperg except, for some reason, Ina.

>> No.30439989

every KFP should be informed about this
>>/vt/thread/S30402001#p30403242

>> No.30440140

all above is fiction

>> No.30440148

>>30439989
Don't worry Anon, we're all very well informed that you're a schizo.

>> No.30440170

>>30434237
You should ask her coworkers.
Why does no one want to play with her outside the collab?

>> No.30440175

>>30439645
And that happens everytime, to the point that you start wondering if she is the reason why others don't speak up.
>>30439781
If you ignore every criticism, don't be suprised when she ends up with low numbers.

>> No.30440258 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 

>>30440170
Her and ina literally cuddled.

>> No.30440299

>>30434897
She was new and figuring out her format and was highly insecure about it.

>> No.30440365

>>30434237
>obnoxious personality
>grating voice
>shit design
it's pretty obvious

>> No.30440367

>>30440175
>And that happens everytime
Except it doesn't.

>> No.30440414 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 

>>30440170
Her and ina literally cuddled under a blanket.

>> No.30440434

>>30440175
The implication that criticisms on /vt/ have any correlation to the success of a vtuber is so utterly absurd as to be comical, get your head out of the clouds.
Vtubers(Streamers in general) incline from doing things /vt/ hates and recline from doing stuff /vt/ hates all the time, but there's no particular rhyme or reason here, viral success is not so deterministic, and the few ideas of what's good for a streamer and what's bad for a streamer that bounce around within /vt/ are often at odds with what the majority of viewers want.

>> No.30440498

>>30440175
Should we bring an easy example of a group collab such as SNOT,
you see, there is no one speaking over the other in there, mostly they take turn to speak up their mind, either to discuss the game or bring stupid topic into the conversation.
Because the reason they do collabs is to have fun playing games together, not trying hard to make content or creating highlight moments so it could be clipped by clippers.

>> No.30440503

>>30440148
the real schizo is that orc bitch who refused to meet kiara not once but twice because she's saving it for the magnum opus, can't wait to see, KFP

>> No.30440575

>>30440170
>Why does no one want to play with her outside the collab?
>rode Ame like a fucking yoshi
>couldn't stop getting petted by Ina
>swam with Mori
>had a deep conversation with Gura at 3 AM over pizza
Eggchama, your reps

>> No.30440714

>>30440434
Of course /vt/ is just small pont in larger vtuber sphere, but you are absurd one here. It's not binary thing. Believing that doing everything that /vt/ hates leads to succes is naive at best. Retarded at worst.

>> No.30440723

>>30440414
kek you are a retard if you think Ina feels comfortable around her
don't you watch that offcollab stream where Ina didn't give a fuck about meeting her irl at the first time

>> No.30440824

>>30440575
pffft you are funny anon

>> No.30440880

>>30440723
>that offcollab stream where Ina didn't give a fuck about meeting her irl
Anon, your hallucinations are getting too intense. You need to take your meds.

>> No.30440914

>>30440723
Ina described her as soft

>> No.30440922

>>30437198
The problem with streaming popular games is that everyone fucking streams popular games.
What's the point in joining that retarded rat race?

>> No.30440927

Kiara is an acquired taste and most chuuba fans are uncultured

>> No.30441116

>>30440714
>Believing that doing everything that /vt/ hates leads to succes is naive at best.
Reading comprehension Anon, I explicitly said that correlation does not equal causation. The actual reality of things is that what /vt/ loves and hates are completely irrelevant, most online success is determined by algorithms, random chance and luck, not the individual choices of either the online personality or their audience.
People see the success and failure of certain content creators and then try to find some kind of pattern that they can use to explain their successes or failures, but it's all just a post-hoc rationalisation

>> No.30441144

>>30436038
Helps when 70% of her """content""" is reading superchats after streams. No one else milks it a fraction as hard.

>> No.30441465

>>30440175
> that happens everytime
Not really, it's just that EN is full of introverts for some reason: Gura, Ina, Ame, Kronii and arguably Mumei and Fauna.
Watch Kiara with another extrovert like Bae, Reine, Coco, Ollie and the result is Kino.

>> No.30441541

>>30440434
This. Ame and Mori antagonized vt hard and their numbers didn't suffer at all.

>> No.30441634

>>30441541
Not now Teakek
Go back to your split

>> No.30441656

>>30434237
>Quality over quantity
Also even as an EU her stream times are awful because she overlaps with JP.

>> No.30441736

>>30437122
>this
she is an actual otaku, therefore cringe

>> No.30441781

>>30434237
The voice. That's legit it. That voice is way too filtering for me, though I can acknowledge Kiara is the hardest worker of EN and is possibly carrying it much more than we think she does.

>> No.30441799

>>30434237
Boring
Ugly model
Awkward English

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30441870

>>30434237
>no memes
>can't sing
Sorry anon, it's just how it works

>> No.30441883

>>30434237
Her voice only serves to give pain to the ears, she plays too many shit games no one cares about, she's just too high energy and can't chill. Being high energy is not bad but that along with her voice are an absolutely fatal combination.

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>>30441870
Singing is the gayest aspect of this hobby

>> No.30442045

>>30434237
>Streams more than the rest
That doesnt mean much when so much of them are niche JRPG playthroughs and the like plus cliquish SC readings

>> No.30442127

>>30441541
>But i don't want to improve!
>I want to be a useless piece of shit forever like everyone else!

>> No.30442198

>>30442045
Minecraft fags need to go away

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30442379

>>30439578
Yes.

>> No.30442405

>>30442127
Implying to keep browsing /vt/ is a sign of improving oneself
kek

>> No.30442496

>>30439578
Excuse me, don't you read the news?
Amelia is the new bottom of HoloEN now

>> No.30442625

>>30439153
She streams quite a lot. She doesn't really pander to English speakers though and - as I mentioned - only plays boring shit.

>> No.30442795

>>30439989
>"all above is fiction"
what did he mean by this?

>> No.30442802

She always had the lowest sub count even before her first stream, so she already started with a model debuff. After that, the first few months of streams were:
Minecraft: popular streams, but she's not an autistic block game player, so she never really captured that audience.
SC Readings: People hate SC readings, she did a lot of them early on.
Fire Emblem: Her CCV cratered thanks to this. After that she followed it up Ryza, which was even worse.
In the end what decides how many viewers a game streamer gets is game choice (who woulda guessed). After you establish a big audience with popular stream games, then you can switch to less popular ones and keep a decently sized following - but people will still leave if the games aren't interesting.

>> No.30443203

I haven't heard Kiara complain about numbers in a long time. This feels like a 2020 thread made in 2022.
What is OP trying to deflect from?

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30443283

>>30442625
Ohhhhh I see her now wow she really doesnt give a fuck about developing a western following how based

>> No.30443326

>>30442795
no! i must wk this 3/10 menhara whore who has no skills, thank for the traffic i guess.

>> No.30443409

>>30443326
Speak English.

>> No.30443588

2HAT

LMAO

>> No.30443600

>>30434237
>orange
>annoying design
>annoying voice
>annoying personality
>pro-BLM

>> No.30443603

>>30434237
>Debuff voice
>Constant yabes
>Loud
>Talks over others in collabs
>Self obsessed
>One of the worst character concepts and designs in hololive
>Obnoxious and overly defensive fanbase
Are all probably factors.

>> No.30443808 [DELETED] 

god i fuckinh hate KFPniggers, hope your oshi gets killed by her personal schizo for real

>> No.30443835

>>30435006
>People say Fauna's voice is a hard filter
Who, ESLs? That's such a strange complaint to have against her.

>> No.30443951

>>30443603
>Constant yabes
I can't even think of the most recent Kiara "yab"
especially not with Mori painting the catalog pink earlier this year.

>> No.30443992

>>30443603
>Talks over others in collabs
Could have got more grandma Gura from that uno collab...
Kiara needs to improve herself in collab

>> No.30443998

>>30434237
>Openly stands up to cover when she has to
You say this as if it's somehow a good thing.

>> No.30444004

>>30436505
>she's one of the best at tardwrangling
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but she's the tard in need of wrangling.

>> No.30444082

>>30443603
>Constant yabes
Name one.

>> No.30444110

>>30443951
>I can't even think of the most recent Kiara "yab"
She went to an off collab with covid.

>> No.30444150

>>30435742
Really? Huh I don't think she is bad in collabs with Reine and Subaru, or any of the 1 on 1 collabs that I have seen, even her recent Myth collabs have not had anything that I would say that makes her personality bad...

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>>30434237
Voice. Always will be.
I love Kiara, day 1 member, but her voice is something I tolerate, not enjoy. For someone whose primary content is long as fuck streams and chatting with people, having a bad voice is the worst combination you could hope for. Sometimes it makes for good moments, but it should have been something she dropped and only brought back out on occasion, like Risu does with her Ayunda voice, and it's not like her long-time fans don't know she's putting on a voice they prefer, they're accepting worse content for the sake of being polite.
The other part of her voice I hate is the voice modulators when voice acting. Just incredibly obnoxious and ruins otherwise good playthroughs, the fact that she's leaning into it more lately when her main content is long games is really worrying.

I understood why she didn't want to change it when she addressed it that one time, even if it was a fucking menhara reason, but with Tempus' best zatsudan members having talking streams around the same time she does it would be better if she just put that last bit of debut pride on the shelf and use her normal tone. Only issue is the fucking yesmen that would seed doubt by white knighting her not to change because she's been against it for so long, best thing she could do is use another outfit reveal as an excuse to "resurrect" from the ashes and lean into the health reasons to get people off her back.

Sincerely hope she changes it, I want her to do better because she totally deserves it, she's the only EN member that matches JP member's motivation, and it's such a stupid reason holding her back that it's starting to bum me out thinking about it whenever she's brought up.

>> No.30444220

>>30444110
>Read the title for a catalog thread
>Didn't actually watch the clip attached to the thread
Why are you like this?

>> No.30444261

>>30443835
It's those mentally ill faggots who want her to have a deep man voice because she has big boobs and they see her as some Mommy or Ara ara character.

>> No.30444361

>>30444110
But she tested negative before she left Austria.
And if she had covid during the off-collab, you'd hear about the other girls getting covid afterwards (hint: we didn't).

>> No.30444362

>>30444172
>Muh voice bitching
>Totally day one member
You are not fooling anyone Egg

>> No.30444421

>>30444261
She has a fine mommy voice though. Not all mommies need sensual foxy voices

>> No.30444495
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Reminder

>> No.30444534

>>30444004
>the only EN with her shit together
>tard
Why can't eggs stop projecting?

>>30444110
>She went to an off collab with covid.
Notifying everyone you have coof and off collabing only with their consent isn't a yab. Try harder.

>> No.30444542

>>30434237
Her voice is fucking annoying.

>> No.30444602

>>30444110
Ah yes, I too think that an Airline would let a YouTube streamer fly to America when she has Covid... Oh wait I don't because I am not a retard

>> No.30445068

>>30434237
i just hate Austria, their painter has invaded my country
she plays jrpgs on eu hours, no1 here play this weeb shit

>> No.30445079

>>30444362
>countering concerns with eggflection
You don't care about Kiara or what she wants to accomplish, you only care about whether or not she likes you. You are the worst sort of person, kys.

>> No.30445174

>>30434430
This but with character model.

>> No.30445477

>>30434237
EOP tastes, that's literally it, they would rather watch the rapper or the meme shark

>> No.30445603

>>30445079
>You don't care about Kiara or what she wants to accomplish
Nice projection, now kill yourself

>> No.30445644

>>30434237
I checked her channel and none of the streams from the last 2 weeks interests me.

>> No.30445755

>>30434237
Kiara is annoying and I every time she shows up in a collab with talent that I do like it makes my day worse.

>> No.30445794

>>30445644
>Not interested in Holobags
Lol you are retarded

>> No.30445807

>>30434237
Shes annoying as fuck
And this is from someone who loves Kiara.

>> No.30445865

>>30445755
Good I hope she does it more, and that you end up killing yourself over it, fucking retard

>> No.30445919

>>30445794
And why exactly should I give a shit about them?

>> No.30445938

>>30445807
>Shes annoying as fuck
>And this is from someone who loves Kiara.
RUMAO no yo don't love her, now kill yourself instead of lying on /vt/

>> No.30446019

>>30445919
Then what the fuck does interest you, because clearly it is not Hololive members

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>>30446019
Yeah I'm not a parasocial fuck who gives a shit about what's in people's bags, amazing right?

>> No.30446571

>>30446270
>I am not parasocial
>Posts on /vt/
You don't belong here, also you never answered wtf kind of stream you are interested in, probably because you do not watch streams at all

>> No.30446614

>>30445938
kys nijinigger

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>>30446614
>Rent free

>> No.30446707

>That one pissant replying to every critique with kill yourself
Don't forget to add unoriginal and underaged fanbase to the list of her shit.

>> No.30446848

>>30446707
>Don't forget to add unoriginal and underaged fanbase to the list of her shit.
RUMAO the projection of eggs is funny

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>>30446571
I started watching vtubers before Kaguya Luna had debuted. I don't give a shit about what you parasocial fags think, I'm just here to be entertained, and if you're so desperate to know then IRyS terraria vods as well as Magni and Axel's Spore shenanigans have both been entertaining to watch.

>> No.30447122

>>30446953
Ah so Kiara should yell about gypsies got it, and play Spore or Terraria...

>> No.30447149

>>30446661
Its not rent free if he knows its you because literally every one of your posts reads exactly the same...

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>>30447122
Man you sure are seething over nothing, are all KFP like this?

>> No.30447368

>>30434237
>>Streams more than the rest
Ok, I'll give her that. Her being pretty consistent and making content even when on break always been one of the biggest "Orange Woman Good" points to me
>>Streams longer than anyone
Irrelevant, if not actively damaging. Anyone not living in their mother's basement simply won't have time to keep on with her, creating FOMO from having to skip on archive reps because you have to wagecuck to live
>>Collabs more than anyone
Pretty sure it's untrue, plenty of girls have 2-3 collabs every week, she have 1-2 tops, and some weeks none.
>>Most caring and protective of her fans
Also one with most emotional luggage offloaded onto her chat.
Member stream after she set her shit of fire was a prime example of that. KFP have all downsides of having extremely high maintenance girlfriend, without actually having one.
>>Has to put up with the most bs
Sure. A lot of it is self inflicted though by her own stupidity and poorfag mentality.
>>Openly stands up to cover when she has to
Not as much as whori, unfortunately.
>>Speaks fluent Japanese yet never alienates English audience
Yes, check this box.
>>Genuinely has passion for V-Tubing and the community and clearly plans to do it long term
Arguably passionate for idolshit and realizes that hololive is her last shot at her dream. I do agree that she would ride this train until the very end.
>>Based taste in games
Her taste in JRPGs is pretty shit.
>>Variety of on going stream
And yet kills her best project (Holotalk), and still adamant on her most retarded idea (Holovention)
>>Easy to keep up with and communicates her emotions on Social media so fans know what's going on
That's a negative, unless you are parasocial as fuck you don't give two shits about emotional woes of anime woman that is living her dream while making fucking motherload of money
>>Super loving to her friends
Also most paranoid and distrustful due to her childhood.

>> No.30447500

>>30447255
>Man you sure are seething over nothing, are all KFP like this?
>I already hate KFP and Kiara so my question is disingenuous, because I already made up my mind based on what I read on this and in the eggcord that I am part of
OGEY

>> No.30447677

Reminder that she was warned that the voice she does might damage her vocal cords like Suisei's did, but she decided to go out of her way to keep doing it despite asking her fans if changing it would bother them and getting a unanimous "no".

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>>30447500
I never said I hate Kiara, I quite enjoyed one of her Holocure streams but that was like a month ago.
This is the first time I've talked about Kiara with a KFP and now you're just seething over some minor criticism and screaming about some discord group and eggs.

>> No.30447924

I don't care about the subject but QRD on what happen with Holotalk and why there are no more of them anymore ?
I don't follow her actively but I liked Holotalk

>> No.30447946

>>30447768
Anon, I don't think that's a "KFP" you're replying to.

>> No.30448016

>>30447924
Holotalk will be back soon.
Next guest will be one of the gamers.

>> No.30448040

>>30448016
Oh nice thanks

>> No.30448142

>>30434711
Pretty much this, I liked her at debut she seemed like the unaware foreign girl you’d come across that you have to teach everything. A week or so later her voice just became painful to hear and she constantly spoke over her genmates wanting to be the star of any collab. This is probably her biggest flaw as a creator and she’s still not self aware people hate that about her.

>> No.30448192

>>30447368
>sets a pan on fire
>feels like an idiot
>KFP tells her its okay
>instantly feels okay
>high maintenance
Ask me how I know you've never had a high maintenance gf

>> No.30448275

>>30435432
Holy shit they removed mori? I guess they don’t count soulless husks who sell themselves to money hungry record labels.

>> No.30448472

>>30445865
Good luck not getting more hate

>> No.30448477

>>30448142
Oh look an anon that still lives in 2020, how does it feel back there?

>> No.30448534

>>30448472
>Good luck not getting more hate
Anon, please hate from you is exactly what I want, since I love seeing you being pathetic

>> No.30448617

>>30447368
Kiara has these weird cultural holdovers from being in Japanese entertainment that just don't translate well. Holoventions sounds like the perfect type of stream where JP members will know exactly when to either double-down or play the straightman, but I don't think EN understands the dynamic as well. It will probably just feel like them being called out, Kiara trying to double down on it and them not following through like Takamori.
I bet it'll have the same energy as a quiz show where the trained host tries bantering and the contestant gives one word replies whilst shuffling awkwardly.

>> No.30448631

>>30437269
Anon thinks SC revenue is the only profitable metric in streaming… big streamers would actually laugh at this retard. Even people like XQC has said his biggest income comes from sponsorships and ad revenue

Now throw in hololive, a good chunk goes to cover and a good chunk goes to YouTube. What’s leftover for the girls? SC revenue is not as important as you think income wise.

>> No.30448698

>>30448534
You already got mine as my oshi is her genmate. I'm sure you're excited to get more hate from other fanbases as well.

>> No.30448709

>>30448631
Yes clearly Kiara never gets sponsorship...

>> No.30448884

>>30448698
>I'm sure you're excited to get more hate from other fanbases as well.
Who died and made you the king of all the other HoloMYTH fanbases?

>> No.30448907

>>30434430
don't forget voice.

>> No.30448994

>>30448631
>Anon thinks SC revenue is the only profitable metric in streaming…
It's the only metric that's available to the public, retard. You and I have no idea how much Holos make from sponsorships, ad revenue, or merch sales. But we know exactly how much they earn from SC's.

>> No.30449012

>>30448907
I am sure that anon won't forget after the 150th time her voice is mentioned anon

>> No.30449123

>>30448709
But what he’s saying is majority of the income comes from viewership/ VOD =ad numbers. Sponsorships are big too but kiara doesn’t get big ones as often as her genmates. If she has gotten any big ones feel free to correct me though

>> No.30449213

>>30434430
Doesn't explain Vei.

>> No.30449263

>>30448994
So that’s just ignorance speaking then, you know there are members doing way better in other metrics but choose that specific metric as a flex knowing they’re beat in others. Face it KFP cuck your oshi is irrelevant in the grand scheme.

>> No.30449437

>>30449263
>NOOOOOOOOOO, you cannot talk about Kiara's SC, because it doesn't make her look as bad as I want to portray her
RUMAO why are you this pathetic

>> No.30449464

>>30434237
I can't speak for everyone, but the main reason I dropped Kiara was:

-Kiara feeding into Takamori shipping;
-She is often obnoxious but not in a funny haha way;
-She doesn't really do anything interesting despite having so many talents and being very outgoing;

She is undoubtedly one of the most active members and has the best connection with her fans out of the OG holoen girls, but I feel like the main reason people would drop her is because of those things, at least that's my educated guess.

>> No.30449614

>>30449464
>Kiara feeding into Takamori shipping;
You mean something she has dropped

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>>30434237
>ctrl+f voice
>38 results
This is 39 to 41. It's the voice, and to a lesser degree the personality. Or rather, maybe I should say it's all the personality because that's why she's still doing the voice.

Also, her fanbase is cringe as fuck. "Eggs" this and "eggs" that. Holy shit, shut the fuck up already. It's as bad as people who go around constantly calling others trolls, groomers and pedos because they're tryharding to be edgy and insulting, fail because they don't have any trigger discipline, and redefine already defined words like a bunch of postmodern fuckwits who believe everything is a social construct.

Fuck that, eggs are based. You can't look at pic related and say I'm wrong, not if you're being honest.

>> No.30449765

>>30449679
>Getting this mad
RUMAO

>> No.30449832

>>30449263
>there are members doing way better in other metrics
>n-no i've never seen these other metrics because they aren't public
>but i know they're better because... i just do okay?!
Keep seething, egg.

>> No.30449855

>>30449679
>he doesn't know
Anon, someone doxed one of the largest (literal) Kiara antis around this time last year, and it turned out he was a fat bald German that literally had an egg-shaped head.

>> No.30449917

>>30449832
and why are you still /here/ kekfp?
running out of copium?

>> No.30449943

>>30445477
All these anons trying to find rational explanations when it's just this kek

>> No.30450009

>>30445477
/thread/

>> No.30450080

>>30434237
>isn't blue

>> No.30450090

>>30449917
>You are not allowed to be /here/ kekfp
Not your hugbox retard

>> No.30450126

>>30449614
>she has dropped
More like Mori got huge success after her songs hit
And next she aimed for Gura and their King Cover is huge success,
So she didn't have enough time to keep up with bottom floor Myth shipping

>> No.30450133

>>30436717
Discords be raiding. Trying to do a milhouse.
Probably seaniggers.

>> No.30450168

>>30449679
> redefine already defined words like a bunch of postmodern fuckwits who believe everything is a social construct

That's some idiotic take if I ever heard one. Giving someone a name or naming a concept is completely natural in every community and every hobby. 4chan is teeming with new words, and new meanings for old words, it's how language works. It doesn't mean you are some crazy leftist, which is what I assume you mean with your meaningless buzzwords.
Protip: postmodernism doesn't mean what you think it does. Talk about redefining things!
Fucking idiot.

>> No.30450220

>>30449917
I enjoy laughing at schizo eggs. I'm not going to leave while you're still entertaining me.

>> No.30450226

>>30449832
Are you ok? Did you properly dilate today? You are acting more mentally ill than usual.

>> No.30450266

>>30450090
Can't you read English kekfp? Well since your oshi can't do English too I guess it's a given
No one forbid you to be /here/, I'm just asking why are you still /here/?

>> No.30450290

>>30450126
>I need to shit on Kiara more after someone pointed out that she does not do Takamori shipping anymore, thereby making my three points outdated
RUMAO

>> No.30450323

>>30450226
I accept your surrender

>> No.30450334

>>30450220
And i'm enjoying watching you oshi with her 3K viewer lol

>> No.30450362

>>30450266
>can't do English too
holy shit lmao
incredible trolling, 10/10

>> No.30450405

>>30450266
Laughing at you, and seeing what other delusional take you are going to post next

>> No.30450528

>>30434237
cuz she has 2 hats! the audacity!

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>30449765
Sorry, anon, but that was meant to be read in a facetious, condescending tone. The point was that Kiara and her fanbase are their own biggest problems, and it's hilarious that we still get these threads 2 years later because they still haven't improved themselves. It's just as funny as Kiara whining about numbers back then...while not taking any advice or criticism that might've helped her. Fucking kek.
>>30449855
Anon, if a chuba and her fans are obnoxious and annoying, it doesn't matter who they try to scapegoat. They'll still be obnoxious and annoying because the problem was never other people.
>>30450168
>use female and sjw shaming and narrative manipulation tactics
>b-b-but I'm not a leftist
Who're you trying to convince?

>> No.30450602

>>30450266
>your oshi can't do English
>No one forbid you to be /here/
Why is every single egg an ESL?

>> No.30450634

>>30450362
>>30450405
pssst be quiet, Kiwawa is on the telly soon, you need to watch her
cause I'm sure she would get the lowest ccv among the three POV lol

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By the way, OP is the Argentinian schizo melting down (as usual). You can tell by the awful ESL and how dumb they are.
The reason? He was kicked from the doxcord, and now they're making fun of him because orcschizo's pastebin was updated to include his IRL dox. KEK

>> No.30450748

>>30450323
You are literally acting like a schizophrenic while calling others that. People give proper reasons why she is lagging behind but acknowledge her good sides and all you do is call them eggs and get really mad at them because they are not blinding themselves to Kiara's faults and weaknesses that she refused to improve on.
In all seriousness, that is not healthy for you.

>> No.30450766

>>30450634
Oh you are in the wrong thread, this is not #, now go back where there are anons that actually care about CCV

>> No.30450879

>>30449614
Yeah that's why I said it was one of the reasons I (not everyone) dropped Kiara. Like I said, it's an educated guess based on what happened for me to drop her.

>> No.30451194

>>30449679
The KFP (Insert job title here) is one of the most cringey things that came out of Kiara's community. People like to self insert so hard in these "lores" that it can come off as unironically retarded.

>> No.30451211

>>30450634
Have fun not watching any of the streams, since you would not want to hear Kiara's voice

>> No.30451235

>>30450650
Wow impressive
I guess your oshi bird brain ain't for nothing huh

>> No.30452210

>>30451194
That's the thing. I respect being close to your fanbase, but a streamer does still have a responsibility to tug the leash a little if fans get too lost in their own bullshit. I think she's too soft on them, and that's why they act so spoiled. Reasonable boundaries and discipline aren't a bad thing, but the person enforcing them also has to be reasonable and have enough self confidence to know where the line is.

>> No.30454813

I hate KFPs so fucking much it's unreal.

>> No.30458906

>>30434430
If I didn't live in Germany for a year I'd think she was just overly bossy and direct, but a lot of German women are like that. I'm not judging, but her personality just doesn't translate very well culturally for an American or Japanese audience looking for an anime waifu.

>> No.30459015

>>30435529
Finally someone asking the right questions

>> No.30459381

>>30434237
Voice and time slot, that's all.

>> No.30462472

>>30451194
>Oh no how dare they have fun, when I think it is cringe
Maybe you should stop being irony poisoned and genuinely like something

>> No.30462932

Damn real subtle anti thread OP, not gonna scroll through but I would bet 100$ you attracted doxfags like flies to shit

>> No.30463010

>>30450650
Oh nonononono, OPchama do you need a hug?

>> No.30463133

>>30434237
>Terrible design
>Terrible Personality
>ESL
>Austrian like Hitler
>Annoying
there's your answer

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>>30450650
>OP
Literally not what the fuck are you talking about?

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>>30462932
Definitely not a anti thread watched vods and her stream all day to day on my day off. Also no mostly genuine answers

>> No.30464166

Wait this thread isn't fun posting

>> No.30465124

>>30434237
Cultural differences.
Sociologists often talk about two types of societies: one where people are akin to peaches and one where they are akin to coconuts. Your average HoloEN audience member is from NA where people are peaches. A lot of pleasantries, generous gestures and facades are shown towards even strangers, acting very soft, just like the flesh of a peach, but once you get to the seed, the core of the fruit, in tnis case more serious relationships, it becomes really hard to penetrate that layer and relationships are easily severed, too.
Now Kiara's not like that. Kiara is an EU resident where the majority are coconuts. Coconut-type people have hard shells where anything they don't want to interact with just gets bounced off and they'd rather let no one close if they don't try with the right methods. But if you can get past that layer, their insides are soft and sweet, and they will treat you like a brother or a sister, no matter how far you come from, often for life.
See, Kiara's hard layer is the things mentioned in this thread, her filters like her voice, her nonchalant attitude, her gaming choices or her stream scheduling. But getting past that she's a stellar streamer with all the good points listed in the OP who's super close with her fans at all times and she will treasure them for life, and vice versa. That's why she gets much more superchats, community projects, sponsorships and the love and respect of everyone who works with her in the scene than what her live viewcount would suggest.

>> No.30467890

>>30434237
4 things

Personality
Voice
Attention whore
Her past, (but only applies to unicorns)

>> No.30467916

>>30450650
kek

>> No.30469879

>>30450581
No, you were criticizing KFP for "redefining words". Thats an idiotic take and now you are disavowing your previous position.

Shaming tactics are not used exclusively by the left btw.

>> No.30469957

>>30436079
Shes defo not based. Shes just rude and two faced. Watch how she bitches about everyone after the myth off collab in her own streams

>> No.30470263

>>30434430
>how successful a chuuba will be and that answer is PERSONALITY
That's wrong. If that was true then they wouldn't be joining corpos in the first place.

>> No.30470982

>>30434430
Wrong

>> No.30471110

>>30434237
She's better than Watson.

>> No.30471119

>>30434237
Kiara has one of the most obnoxious, off-putting, cringe voices I've ever fucking heard in general, let alone in Hololive. She makes Ironmouse seem good in comparison. Her personality is just as obnoxious as her voice is. Her outfit is ugly as shit as are the colors of her hair. The KFP gimmick is dumb. Her mere presence in collabs is enough to upset me far more than Mori's presence ever could.
I'm more impressed that she has any sort of audience at all, really.

>> No.30471445

>>30444172
I absolutely fucking despise Kiara. She's the one member of Hololive I refuse to go anywhere near. If she genuinely drops the voice, however, I'll drop my own stubborn pride and go give her another shot.

>> No.30471627

>>30434237
Because unlike her brainwashed cult, most people know that she's fake as fuck + the cancer voice.

>> No.30475843

>>30465124
Interesting, who else in hololive en is a coconut then?

>> No.30476039

>>30434237
No one likes exwhores

>> No.30476293

>>30434237
no one likes europeans. Simple as.

>> No.30476610

>>30436978
I can sense your coping and seething through this post, faggot

>> No.30477429

she's sleazy skank who deserves nothing but death, plain and simple

>> No.30477776

>>30471119
Wowowowow

>> No.30478080

>>30434237
I like Kiara, what keeps me from oshi-ing her is her hatred of men, I understand why she hates men though but that also means I cant relate to her, that's it really but other than that I like Kiara.

Also dont play the numbers game anon, Kiara is successful, don't let ranking keep you from supporting her.

>> No.30478423

Can you niggers give me a recent example of her personality rubbing you the wrong way? Because you say she's bossy or direct or german but she's actually really caring of her friends and fans and doesn't want to say things that hurts others. You have the complete opposite perception as how she is for some reason

>> No.30478775

If only we could fuse the chicken work ethic with gura's everything else, we'd have the ultimate vtuber

>> No.30479168

>>30444172
Her voice is something she can't control when she's on camera Instances of her using her more normal relaxed voice after her debut are very very rare.

>> No.30479518

Honestly I think she is generally great and her roommate has a fantastic ass. But her voice destroys my ear drums I have to watch her in spurts. If she had used her normal voice since the start she would have been way bigger.

>> No.30481094

>>30478423
>caring of her friends
lol
Didn't let Calli and shark sing on birbday
Lumped Ina and ame together to perform shit song, making them looked bad

>> No.30481643

>>30481094
Both Ina and Ame had agreed to sing on her birthday, Ina got cold feet when it came down to recording her part though, that's all

>Calli and Gura
Gura wanted to join last minute but it was too late by then, Calli is Calli so she doesn't knows how to take care of her friends.

>> No.30481675

Kiara's streaming is very similar to the japanese girls. Americans don't want that style of streaming, they want people like Gura or Ame.
I agree with you though.

>> No.30482226

>>30452210
This applies to any fanbase

>> No.30482342
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30482342

>>30434237
>2022
>August 10th
>Still rent free

>> No.30482376

>>30434237
Annoying as fuck
Too "ME ME ME"

>> No.30482548

>>30481643
>Gura wanted to join last minute
Why didn't Kiara invite them in first place?

>> No.30482598

>>30482548
Why didnt your mom suck my balls

>> No.30482893

>>30478423
>caring of her friends
I'd have agreed if she doesn't say things that paint others in bad picture.

>> No.30483131

>>30471119
>>30471445
>>30471627
>>30477429
>>30482376
Trying again, discord trannies? Your efforts are futile. Kiara is more successful and loved then you retarded mutants will ever be.

>> No.30483466

>>30481643
Ina looked awesome here
https://youtu.be/DgNRb2xQsls

Massive views too for this and other clips
I guess we know who really cares about friends, huh?

>> No.30483757

>>30482598
>Gura invited everyone to appear on her birthday stage but according to KFP she doesn't care about her genmates and ghost them on purpose.
>Kiara didn't invite Gura and Mori to sing together but she cares about the others

>> No.30484031

Have you HEARD her talk? You need a special kind of autism to stomach listening to that

>> No.30484257

Man it's been so long since I've seen a Kiara hate filled thread, the nostalgia is better compared to the WHO baiting threads we have now of days

>> No.30484354

>>30434971
This is one of the gayests posts I've ever seen
>implying subs matter
>implying popularity = objective indicator of quality
>"tHaT's A yOu PrObLeM" like a cunty numale
I don't have anything to say in this thread, but I wanted to post so I could say fuck you, you retarded faggot

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30484645

>cumsharts deflecting to Kiara

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>>30484354
Subs matter but we know Mori subcount is very inflated due to her song spamming. Look at Marine gaining 100k from just 1 MV.

>> No.30485787

I watched Kiara early on and enjoyed all the suffering in her Mario streams. I dropped her because she was streaming during hours I couldn't catch, she picked up some long-running JRPGs that I wasn't interested in, and she also had some menhera going on with the whole swapping languages thing. It was just baggage I didn't want to deal with. A while back, I decided to give her another shot. I started watching in the middle of a Diablo stream, and someone in chat said something about her English that triggered her into a defensive rant for several minutes. I stopped watching. Later, I dropped into a Tales of Whatever stream and she IMMEDIATELY said that she'd gotten a new mic, but some of her fans would still complain about her audio setup because they'd never be happy no matter what she did. I stopped watching.

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This is now a Kiara love thread, say how much you love her

>> No.30486092

>>30484645
>cuckling

>> No.30486811

>>30484354
>Implying subs matter
Kiara is famous for complaining about her numbers in 2020. The talents themselves constantly talk about numbers and milestones and do sub count celebrations but they don't matter because you say so? You're a dimwit and I laughed reading your post. Now fuck off.

>> No.30487570

>>30478080
Why does she hate men?

>> No.30487633

>>30487570
Past life (depending how you see it)

>> No.30487878

>>30487570
>Why does she hate men?
She doesn't. It's a rrat the egg trannies made up.

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30487973

You know, if you're all actually multiple people and not less than 10 niggers samefagging you could always paint the board orange to let people know who is the punching bag here

>> No.30488374

>>30487973
I'm sure there are people only want to reply to OP question and not shitting up the board

>> No.30488534

>>30485787
t. egg watching every stream religiously and keeping notes for samefagging his retarded threads.

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30488633

>>30488374
>>>>>>plural

>> No.30488919

>>30439624
cunny and cute voice like younger imouto

>> No.30488997

>>30478423
Throws ina under the bus by calling her out for being lazy and refuse to practice the chickens shitty bday show. Schizophrenia chicken and shits on others for being not idol worthy. I dont see how kiara is amazing at dancing or idol worthy herself.

>> No.30488999

>>30439624
normie appeal

>> No.30489133

>>30439989
>posts JP2 image for no reason
is she a polish whore or what nobody memes that pope like us

>> No.30489201

>>30481675
Like which JP girl exactly? All of holojp is 10x funnier, charismatic, sincere and nice to each other than your chicken nutcase.

Also none of the JPs go "ME ME ME ME" But if anything goes wrong, kiara never goes "Me Me Me" to self reflect instead she spaz out, blaming as far as her hair colour..what the fuck

>> No.30489264

>>30489201
>not a new IP

>> No.30489349

>>30487570
rrat, she has recent photos of herself with male fans and friends.

>> No.30489450

>>30487973
other vtubers' antis : meme, improve yourself lol!, lazy, cuckposting

kiara's antis : whore, should kill herself, a-logging

nice cope KFPnigger, also does 2k kiara make you feel disheartened that there will be no kfp left to defend her anymore?

>> No.30489700

>>30489450
All I got is that Kiara lives rent free in your head

>> No.30490789

>>30489201
Your rrats are so ancient they border on the archeological.

>> No.30491457

Interesting discord raid you have going on here.
You three losers will keep seething at Kiara for years to come. Better jump off a bridge now, your lives will always be miserable, kek.
Or just keep doing what you are doing, at least watching you flop around like this is funny.

>>30489450
>gets called out
>completely cracks
God, you are so unbelievably bad at this. You are supposed to make others seethe not start seething yourself whenever your "everyone totally hates Kiara" narrative gets challenged.
You really can't do anything right, huh? Even too dumb to be an anti.

>> No.30491681

>>30489201
>Also none of the JPs go "ME ME ME ME"
Oh wow, just coming out admitting you never watched a single JP stream, huh?
JPs constantly start a conversation by talking about themself in order to offer a topic for the others to pick up. This way no one is put on the spot and a conversation can develop naturally.
Kiara's problem is that only works when the other participants in the collab are also entertainers that enjoy streaming and talking. Ina out of all people is the only one to pick up those topics and actually starts contributing to the stream.
And yes, your cope will be that "chilling" is totally content and nobody ever speaking is totally why people watch streamers.

>> No.30491763

Bump

>> No.30491988

>>30491763
Based

>> No.30492955

>>30475843
I'd say Kronii, maybe, but even that's a big stretch as she got big at the beginning by being generous with voicelines in the beginning.
Oh yeah, that's another thing Kiara doesn't have: a simple identifying feature or meme that everyone who joins a stream of hers knows. Compare that to Ina who grew faster than most EN talents in the recent months despite taking long breaks because two of her memes got really big in the community and both of them came down to sheer luck and happenstances, not representing who Ina is at all.

>> No.30493315

>>30491681
This is the hardest mememe cope that I ever saw. Kiara does not do memememe because the Japanese do it and there is a big difference in telling a story about you to start conversation or be like:
Nice milestone you reached there, did you know I reached that milestone too?
This is the exact opposite. The discussion is on and she wants to make it about her. This is what people mean when they say mememe.

>> No.30494126

>>30493315
anons are responding to the question they hallucinated: "who here is mentally ill?" when they say "mememe" newfag

>> No.30495007

>>30491681
I will never forgive Kiara for making a mockery of Ina on her birthday

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