Are VTuber fans actually anime watchers?

[Anonymous No.]

Genuine question, when is the last time any of (You) watched anime/read manga or consumed similar related content?

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2017

[Anonymous No.]

i was never an anime watcher, i moved from fleshtubers to vtubers

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today, reading touge oni

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>>30177415
Like 8-12 months ago for anime, around 3 months for manga. Just not that much interesting shit out there nowadays Anon. You see one anime from a certain genre you basically see them all.

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I dropped anime for chuubas. They’re funnier and more entertaining.

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>>30177415
Yes

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>>30177415
I still watch anime if it has "(uncensored)" in the title

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>>30177415
I regularly read manga and LNs but I don't watch anime anymore.
Currently reading
>Blue Period
>Sangetsu no Lion
>Barakmon
>I am Hero

[Anonymous No.]

Anime is grossly inefficient, why wait a week for a few minutes of best girl at best when I can have her on the bottom right of the screen for hours and hours?
>>30177561
This but I still read manga.

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>>30177673
Because "best girl" doesn't have lovey dovey interactions with real men constantly, and she certainly doesn't shame me for loving her.

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>>30177415
few days ago, i try to keep it balanced

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>>30177415
Why would I watch anime or read manga? Nowadays, they're mainly an inferior port of the original product. I just read light novels directly. Believe it or not, some people in this world aren't retarded and can actually read books.

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The only thing I'm watching this season is Lycoris Recoil.

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>>30177769
>I just read light novels directly
>Why would I watch anime or read manga?
It's /vt/. I'm not expecting them to be intelligent or tasteful enough to read LNs.

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>>30177415
I watched all the good anime already. Nothing worthwhile released since 2015 or so for me to watch

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>>30177755
I don't know who it is that's living rent free in your head but you could literally watch anybody else instead of shitting up /vt/ you funny little worm

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>>30177415
>I'm reading manga right now
>binge watching when the season is done
>wasting money on anime base gacha games all the time

[Anonymous No.]

I watch anime
I don't watch vtubers
My knowledge of vtubers is surface level at best
I'm only here to start trouble

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>>30177883
Outside of fate what other anime spawned gatcha games

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>>30177415
Not since 2018.

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i watched a few episodes of Fire Force last night. i rarely watch anime but i think Fire Force is fun. it has this modern and steampunk-ish aesthetic meshed together into one and i adore that

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From what I’ve seen most have watched a lot anime in the past but don’t have enough time to watch anime anymore so they replaced anime with Vtubers.

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>>30177523
Not even a weeb? That's just weird to me
Most people think drawings are for kids and there you are watching e-girls using sexy drawings to earn money
Not judging tho

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>>30177819
I suppose that's true. 'Not being retarded' and 'basic literacy' are probably hard to come by in these parts.

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Yesterday

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I almost completely dropped anime since I started watching vtubers (after winter/2018), I read a lot of manga though.

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>>30177415
Read some manga
Haven't watched anime since 2020
which coincidentally was when I started watching pikamee and hololive

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>>30177769
>LNs
I'd rather play JRPGS, at least those have a completed story.

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>>30178201
anime just isn't worth it if it's an adaptation.

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the only anime ive watched is initial d

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>>30177415
I watch anime regularly on Netflix and Crunchyroll.

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>>30178229
Obviously I'm talking about completed LNs. There are plenty of them, there's like a 20 year buildup for people new to the genre. Some of them (okay a lot of them) may have a rushed ending, but honestly JRPGs aren't any better in that regard.

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Nope, mainly a Kpopfag. Got into vtuber because someone was talking about Ollie in Reddit and I checked her out and the rest of ID2 after and here we are.

[Anonymous No.]

I still read manga, LNs, VNs and watch anime. This season alone I'm watching 19 anime and according to my mangadex I'm reading 246 mangas, though I guess at least 70 or so are either rarely updated or some of those twitter manga so something along 130-170 real manga are probably more correct.

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>people here saying they unironically read LNs
Is this a /jp/ pathology or is this unique to Hololive fans?

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>>30177415
>when is the last time any of (You) watched anime/read manga or consumed similar related content?
Today. I only read one manga nowadays though and that's it. Once it's over I'll probably be done with both anime and manga.

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>>30177415
I watched anime a lot since childhood, but i'm not a really dedicated anime watcher. I just watch whatever is trending like Demon Slayer or Dr. Stone in a casual way. I game more, also watch cartoons and series.
These days i only watch One Piece.

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>>30177415
not at all
have you seen some of the niggas at cons?

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>>30177415
I try giving a couple shows airing for each season a shot but end up dropping them early in.

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>>30177415
I often read manga while watching streams so... basically daily.

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>>30178272
Many popular animes have very good animation and music and that adds to the source material.

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I haven't watched anime in a while. I just prefer playing video games. The most I was ever into anime was around 2007-2010 and browsed /a/ to look for interesting stuff.

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I haven’t watched anime since I pirated Death Note back in the early 2000s. I’m more of a normie and my main entertainment is watching sports, so its kinda weird how I got stuck watching a funny sheep girl who speaks japanese

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>>30178797
Watching sports is not that different from watching streamers.

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>>30178441
Why not? Compared to reading manga or watching anime, it's essentially the same thing but more complex. Are they the most insightful books? No, they're basically translated YA novels. Most of them are juvenile power fantasies. But are they still better than the manga/anime adaptations of them? Yes, without a doubt.

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>>30177921
A certain horse girl gatcha comes to mine of one. Theres also one about girls playing baseball. Don't make me spoon feed you.

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>Entire EN fanbase are normalfags whose exposure to anime is Dragonball Z
I mean I knew it from how cancerous global is but it's fucking disgusting seeing people openly admit to it

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>>30178820
True.
I guess I like how some of the best moments in both arent scripted and happen mostly organically.
Movies and shows just bore me

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>>30178832
It's not more complex if the writing is the lowest common denominator shit imaginable. Also, good anime and manga stand out by other qualities besides the writing.

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>>30178515
Same. I read and watch One Piece. That's it.

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2015. Only watched Monogatari after that since I was heavily invested in it. By heavily invested in it I mean I posted a lot of Crab on /a/

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>>30178833
The anime was based on the gacha.
The gacha was just slightly delayed.

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Last time I watched anime was in 2020. I just lost interest even before that for seasonal anime.

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>>30177415
if it has cunny I'll watch it

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>>30177415
I haven't really watched anime in since like 2015. I do read manga pretty often though.

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>>30178897
I mostly watch JP (and some EN indies). Modern seasonal anime is trash and anybody who feels superior about subjecting themselves to dozens of transitory fotm shows a year is just embarrassing themselves

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Last time I watched anime seasonally was 2012. Still watch anime that catches my interest any time I see it though. Recently finished tokugawa and will likely catch fuuto pi when it’s over since I love kr and expanded stories are cool

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>>30179092
There is usually a few solid shows per season. But I agree that watching anime religiously is dumb.

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>>30177415
I stopped watching anime years ago, too much time wasted for a shitty payout and all the new stuff is shit.
These days I only read pornhwa.

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>>30178933
Doesn't it make anime/manga bad by definition if the 'other qualities' stand out more than the story? After all, they're supposed to support the story. For example, a good anime soundtrack is supposed to highlight the story beats, not the other way around. If you're watching an anime for the soundtrack and don't give a shit about the story any more, that basically means it has failed. You should just listen to the OST and get the annoying people talking out of there. At that point, the anime is mainly an advertisement for the music, which is probably not the intended purpose.

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>>30177415
i never watch Anime i only watched a few. and now i'm down to so little. and these are at their endgame stage.

One piece: 3 years left, stated by the Author himself. generally expected to end around 5 years
JJBA: Part 6/8 (or seasons) after part 6, everything diverges from the original timeline.

Yea i know, i'm sorry for being a shounen-blooded sinner

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>>30177415
During 2020 and 2021 I only watched big names like SnK, KnY, JJK, Mushoku Tensei, Re: Zero etc. but I have since gone back to mostly watching anime with chuubas on the side the past half a year or so.
As for manga, I've only ever kept up with a select few such as Kingdom, Tensura, OPM and Goblin Slayer and I never stopped reading them. I'd occasionally check out the manga adaptation of some isekai LNs that had a botched anime adaptation tho. Oh, and I read CSM during 2020-2021 as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I stopped watching anime because nothing really makes me hooked anymore other than podcasts. Might read myself some older Light Novels like boogiepop phantom or Kino no Tabi

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>>30177415
Here's everything I watched last season. First group is seasonals, second anime that I watched for the first time, third rewatches

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>>30177769
Even when reading LNs, mangas and anime adaptations can be nice, some of them are really good and add something. You could also watch original anime and read original manga

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literally the only Anime I watched this year and I haven't even finished it yet

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>>30178740
Good joke anon

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I actually do feel out of place enjoying vtubers because I haven't consumed anime in quite a while. The only "weeb" thing I do is play japanese games.

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Have vtubers cannibalized the slice of life genre?

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>>30179493
Don't worry anon, they don't watch anime either

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>>30177415
A few weeks after I saw Miko for the first time. Vtubers have superceeded anime and manga in my mindspace.

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>>30177415
Struggling to keep up with new seasonal anime since I started watching Vtubers. I intend to catch up, but can't find the time.

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I watch anime everyday, V-Tubers is just a nice way to pass the time since there's so many streaming at different hours or different things.
I don't play any games cause there's nothing good to play.

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>>30177415
anime is trash and dumb to watch, I still read some manga though

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>>30177906
This

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I watch about 3-5 shows a season
Used to watch more, but vtubers eat most of my watching time now

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>>30179334
>During 2020 and 2021 I only watched big names like SnK, KnY, JJK, Mushoku Tensei, Re: Zero etc. but I have since gone back to mostly watching anime with chuubas on the side the past half a year or so.
same desu
I got into vtubers as a CGDCT replacement but got real disillusioned about halfway through 2021 so I've been watching less and less of them and have mostly gone back to anime/manga.

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>>30177415
I've been reading quite a bit of Blue Period especially since they recently came back from a hiatus. The art is drawn from actual artists, the author is an alumni in Geidai, the same school they show the protagonist enter in the manga and actually has a believable story of the hardships of learning and making art

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>>30177415
of course. this season i'm keeping up with overlordS4, lycoris, isekai meikyuu, made in abyss, teppen and classroom elite. there are others like prima doll, soredemo ayumu and isekai yakkyoku but i'm thinking of dropping them.

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>>30177415
No. Anime sucks, weebshit sucks, and Japan is a third world hellhole larping as an "advanced" country.

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I read a ton of manga because anime sucks.
Re-read Helck and Spirit Circle last week, currently re-reading SOIL, keeping up with One Piece, One Joke Man, Blue Lock, and Chainsaw Man.
Dunno what to read after I finish Soil.

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>>30179334
How far did the Moshoku Tensei anime go? The full story? Because I stopped reading at the extra stories where the MCs bro-con sister slept with his son and then eloped with the son (who I believe was still underage at the time). That was too much for me. I would fucking LOVE to see them try to adapt that to anime.

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>>30179879
>troon period

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>>30180022
The anime stopped at the end of tome 6, the next season should cover tomes 7-12. The anime has been pretty faithful until now, but tomes 7-8 is where we'll really see how far they want to go

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What the fuck happened to this website? I remember when being a normalfag, newfag or pleb was shunned upon, now look at this board. One would think that a hobby based on weeb culture and a board spawned from /jp/, even post 2013 /jp/ would attract similar people but look at this shit. Sports fans, ex fleshtuber fans and even fucking k-pop fags. If this is the main vtuber audience then this shit is beyond fucked, this hobby and board are beyond saving

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>>30177755
>Because "best girl" doesn't have lovey dovey interactions with real men
I don't care about my oshi having a boyfriend. He's me after all

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>>30177415
late 2020, before anime completely went to shit because of covid restrictions

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It has been years since I watched anime, well before I got into vtubers. I'm not into them due to anime. I'm more into video games anyway.

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>>30180026
its only liked by troons since one of the characters wears girl clothes as a guy otherwise they know jackshit about the intricacies with the daunting task of making new art, especially in a school whose success rate ranges from 20% to 30%
bet troons dont even know Geidai actually exists

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>>30180145
Holo En saddly

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>>30177673
>This but I still read manga.
This but I also read light novels

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>>30180145
Eternal September was already a thing 20 years before 2013 anon

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>>30178897
sorry but not all of >us here do fake jobs like programming or government contractors

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>>30178833
Wait the horse game is actually based off something lmao

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>>30180130
I hope they add more cool mech scenes. That was the only thing that annoyed me in the LN, he spent so much time building this totally awesome power armor/mech and then only used it one time? And it was destroyed?
C'mon, we deserve a little bit of fan service when it comes to an awesome mecha. Maybe show it off against some mooks somewhere as a test or something. I want to see some impressive visuals with this thing, it's key to the story and I think the LN didn't do it justice.

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>>30180306
>one of the characters wears girl clothes as a guy
It's a full on troon character that goes around claiming to be a woman. There was even an episode where he goes on a rant about how much his life sucks that he's not being accepted for who he is after the guy he was dating dumped him after finding out that he was dating a guy. I dropped that shit then and there. Author had something good going on with the art subject but couldn't help himself.

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>>30180145
and then you have le oldfigs eithee trooning out or hanging themselves. Stop sucking your dick, faggot

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Yeah i watch a lot of anime
Mostly isekai tho which apparently is the "worst" genre, fuck you i like how its similar to vidja

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>>30180306
Pretty sure troons dropped it since the troon was a side character thats been irrelevant since the cram school arc

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>>30177415
>>30178201
>I almost completely dropped anime since I started watching vtubers
This. Since mid 2020, I only watched like 20 episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho, 1-2 anime movies and some Mazinkaiser, that's it. And to be quite honest, I don't feel like I'm missing anything either.

Recently started watching some Kamen Raider again though and it's more fun than like half of the anime I've seen in the last 10 years.

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>>30180145 #
and then you have le oldfigs either trooning out or hanging themselves. Stop sucking your dick, faggot

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>>30177415
I literally watched anime with my oshi last night

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>>30180446
I liked how it was used, compensating too much Rudeus' lack of physical power would be bad in the long run, especially since Eris comes back shortly after, and seeing Rudeus and his friends nerding over the mech was more important to me than the actual fight. If they want they could animate parts described in the future diary, there are a lot of fights with the mech here

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>>30180306
Troons don't like it anymore because they found the author Pixiv and she like some shota, so she's now officially cancelled

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I hope all the extremely well cultured superior novel readers anons are reading in japanese.
I mean, surely you wouldn't be reading the barebones translated version with most of the original context lost would you?

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>>30180558
he's never talked about since and is only reintroduced once to catch up with Yatora during the school festival since his entire character arc is basically completed when Yatora and Ryuji decided to draw naked drawings of themselves

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>>30180561
I should watch some Kamen Rider again, it's always a good time. Too bad the last two are not good

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>>30180533
Reincaranted as a
>sword
>microphone
>slime
>girl
>uncle
>villan
>weakest hero
>pharmacist
>farmer
>vending machine
>Sex worker
In another world.

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>>30180533
>fuck you i like how its similar to vidja
Yes, that's why it's called the worst genre

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I've basically dropped anime but I still read manga. Last time I saw a full season of currently airing anime was Spring 2020, but I've watched some anime in watchalongs.

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>>30180663
Basically its only purpose was to act as a catalyst to do a self nude lmao imagine just removing the character and making it some shit he found in a fucking art book or something that lead to personal growth

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>>30180533
I love isekai as well but I can't stand the ones with Generic Japanese Teenage Boy #8456 as the protagonist. Its a shame how low the production value of most isekais are tho.

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>>30180674
The ASMR Microphone one isn't in another world, he reincarnates as a Dummy Head Mic that some girls in his school use for a club or something
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2022-07-29/aru-asa-dummy-head-mike-ni-natteita-ore-kun-no-jinsei-asmr-anime-reveals-cast-updated-title/.188160

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>>30180533
>which apparently is the "worst" genre
That title goes to shitty gimmick romcoms like Uzaki, Takagi, Nagatoro, Komi etc.

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>>30177415
Yesterday I watched Kami Kuzu Idol and Shadow House s2

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>unironic "muh secret club is ruined" posters
It's 2022, not 2003. Anime is mainstream. 4chan is a well known staple of internet culture. Slavishly watching seasonal anime isn't something to be proud of.

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>>30180654
もちろんです。

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>>30180814
Semantics

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>>30180766
Agreed. Isekai should be good, but it's always got the same generic protagonist who can't seem to make any decisions on his own. Even the slightest bit of characterization could go a long way, but they just can't seem to do it.

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I just finished going back through the original 2005 Garo again, but that's roku. Last anime I watched was I think Dunbine since i finally got around to seeing it.

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>>30181025
People can't self-insert if the MC does anything on their own. The whole premise of isekai is that something happens that you don't control, hence the isekai truck meme. Even something as basic as the MC actually deciding to go to a new world is too much to ask.
The reason isekai are mostly garbage is that they're made for losers to self-insert, and the story of a loser that gets everything handed to him and does nothing on his own is boring as fuck

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>>30180880
宜しい。

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>>30181112
But one of the most popular isekai is Konosuba, the story of a complete loser who is isekai'd to a fantasy world where he's still a complete loser

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>>30181172
I don't understand the but, this only proves my point? Unless you think popular = good

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>>30181225
But you said they're mostly stories about a person getting shit handed to them for audience wish fulfillment. That never happens in this because it's first and foremost a comedy

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>>30180607
It seemed unfulfilling to me. If he's going to use his knowledge and magical power to overcome his physical limitations, why cripple that shortly afterwards? It seems like an aborted character arc. Like he was supposed to ascend beyond what he is, but halfway through the writer just decided, 'meh, good enough, just let him die of old age now'.

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>>30177415
Sorry but Hololive completely replaced anime for me. I can't even watch it anymore.

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>>30181296
He gets handed over three hot girls that are always close to him, a house, and lots of money (he just brought the ideas that were made by other people in his world, Vanir did all the actual work). That's more than most people in the world have

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>>30177415
Watching less anime but I still read mangas/webtoons every day.

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>>30181340
I'm just waiting for the jojo part 9 manga to start

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>>30181112
The biggest problem with isekai is that most don't go anywhere. They're just a premise that the author came up with and doesn't know doesn't know how to expand it so he just fumbles around for volumes on end.

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>>30181112
Theres plenty of isekai out there that's done in an interesting way like Overlord, Tensura, Kumo, Mushoku Tensei, Re Zero, Youjo Senki etc. Not everything in the genre is like the fucking smartphone isekai.
>>30181172
Konosuba's popularity comes from it basically being a fantasy sitcom. Being an isekai not very relevant for it.

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>>30181352
Yeah, but hes also an incredibly pathetic man

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>>30181355
It's going to be garbage just like 8

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>>30177415
I'm rewatching Saki at the moment now I understand mahjong properly though it's the first time I've watched anime in a while, I still read a decent amount of manga because Dowman Sayman's still making shit and I now know enough japanese to read some of the weird shit that wasn't scanlated when I was younger

[Anonymous No.]

No, I dont watch anime anymore in the last 3 years

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>>30181356
I mean, if you really think about it this is a good thing. In the past, world-builders would have no audience whatsoever and would probably starve in the streets. Nowadays, they make shitty isekai stories. It's not a BIG improvement, but it's an improvement.

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I stopped watching seasonal anime when I stopped browsing /a/
Has there even been anything good in the past 3 or so years?

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>>30180145
>Crying about sports fans
Sorry kid did the meanie football players shove you into your locker again

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>>30181367
And most of those aside from the two edgy ones were quite hated on the loud part of the anime community
Western weebs unironically hate well written characters lmao

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>>30181733
Go back to watching retards run around on a field and kicking a ball back and forth you fucking cretin.

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>>30180145
You can blame EN and vshojo for that

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>>30181766
Most ironic weebs are just nerd loners that found solace on anime girls. They aren't actually interested on good stories only self inserts, the result is en vtubers being all normie garbage with normie fans.

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>>30177415
I don’t like anime much, mangas and novels are generally better imo. As for vtubers i don’t watch them much.

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>>30177415
Modern anime usually panders to demographics I'm not a part of. The market left me behind, and I didn't bother trying to keep up.

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>>30177415
watched sonny boy a month ago and it was really great

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>>30181356
I feel like it's a problem with the industry in general, people botching endings, or making them not as good as the rest. But when you realize that the more the story lasts, the better it sells, and the ending is just a small part of it, it kind of makes sense. There are perverse incentives.

>>30181367
Overlord doesn't feel that special to me, but maybe the LN is better. The anime is slow, but at the same time all over and sometimes lacking proper development.
Tensura isn't that good, and slow.
The Kumo anime (except the parts with the students) is a gift from God, I love Aoi Yuuki and she's great at filling the air alone. She also grows as a person, faces actually hard stuff and gets out with her own power.
I can't be objective on Mushoku Tensei, it's one of my favorite stories, but I think it's way better than most others because the MC actually confronts his negative attitude and tries to grow as a person. But at the same time, not everything is handed over to him. And when it is, sometimes there are brutal reminders that it wasn't only him that did everything. The part where he meets again Paul at Millishion is great because of that, the criticism about him being too self-centered was real.
I've only seen the first season of Re Zero and didn't like it much, but I'll agree that it does things differently.
I like Youjo Senki a lot, Aoi Yuuki helps, but I think the interesting part is that the protagonist wants a comfortable life, and there is something actively pushing against him. Having an actually competent MC and an author that understand the importance of logistics is a nice change too. Though my autistic friends say that it reads too much like a Heart of Iron something fanfic, but I haven't sunk thousands of hours into Paradox games like them.
You're absolutely right that there are good isekais, my point was that the basic premise behind them is "flawed" in a way that doesn't make a good story, and it takes authors fighting against that to make it good. It's a bit like how nekketsus starts with how the MC is special, but nekketsus have usually character grow and training built in, while isekais don't.

>>30181393
Yes, like the readers. My point is that isekais are wish-fulfillment fantasies, like thinking about becoming very popular online or winning the lottery

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>>30181766
That is not unique to anime/japanese media. For example I'm a bit into cinema, and finding new movies to watch that are not garbage is an active process. I have the chance of having a small theater near me that is more into "cinema" than "watching movies", but the majority of what people watch is not that good, and the rare time they see stuff that's different they usually don't like it and are loud about it.

>>30182039
It was great

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>>30182114
I think it's a bit more than just botching endings. It actually about not having a plan for your story outside of the original premise so you just fumble coming up with uninteresting shit until the series stops being popular and then you can finally wrap it up. That's why I ended up preferring visual novels or games. You get a complete story that was planned from the start.

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>>30181496
which would be nice if 90% of isekai aren't just "Like dragon quest, but the main character is a fridge" or someshit and basically have no worldbuilding aspects at all

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muh modern anime :)
muh industry:)

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>>30182297
Yes, that's what I wanted to say. Your comparison with VNs is a good one. Personally that's why I really like movies too, especially as I don't have as much time as before and they can pack a lot in not a lot of time. Pic related (Patlabor 2) is a bit shorter than two hours (6 regular anime episodes), and packs more than most anime with 12 episodes

[Anonymous No.]

I watched spy family last season, will watch made in abyss this one
I still watch anime, the difference is I only watch one or two per season now

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>>30182429
I don't think it's the modern industry, someone talked about Sonny Boy a bit earlier and it's a good example of how good anime are still made. The thing is that people have had the time to filter stuff from the past and separate grain for shaft. If you're watching seasonals, you have to do that yourself. There's between 100 and 200 anime each year, and they can't all be good

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>>30181905
Weeabooism and irony goes hand-in-hand. No one actually believes on what Anime has to say on anything. The creators themselves behind these shows are nihilistic at best and cynical at worst. It's all form and no essence. Randomly blurting empty platitudes that are basically escapism. Like for fuck's sake, Serial Experiment's Lain has amassed a fanbase of tech-worshipping and nisanthropic Internet transvestites who are completely swallowed to the avatars that they've created online when the anime itself was warning it's viewers to basically not do that. It's all worship for the form and neglecting essence

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>>30182587
Abundance of quantity, degradation of quality, and the problem of overchoice.

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>>30180766
yeah i agree, theres a lot of shit to sift through to find good ones

[Anonymous No.]

Been slowly poking away at a rewatch of Mobile Suit Gundam. been waiting for CR to get its head out of it's ass for Arpeggio TLs again.

Mostly been juggling a lot of shit so don't got time to watch. Also waiting for Witch from Mercury.

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>>30182761
I think you're mixing viewers missing the point of some anime that tells them to not do what they currently do and creators themselves doing the same thing. But you're right that many people miss the point of anime.
Evangelion is a good example too, the usual "normie criticism" is that Shinji is a pussy that doesn't want to fight, the weeb defense is that he's really depressed and his situation is not good. But never in the discussion the weebs think about the fact that he is the only one that can do it, and if he doesn't lots of people will die. He's so self-centered that his depression matters more than lots of people dying. Anno has always been clear that he should stop running away and face his responsibilities, but weebs usually use him as an excuse to not fix their life when they're depressed.

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>>30177415
I don't watch vtubers I read manga. This board is funny and easy to get (you)s.

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>>30177415
I just rewatched Hathaway's Flash.

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>>30183274
But in the end he does the ultimate wimp out and changes the universe so he can run away from being a pilot to the ultimate degree
Although with him apparently insisting the ultimate form of actualization is becoming a cubical drone is rather insulting.

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>>30177415
A week ago.
Trying to watch Lain, but it's kind of hard to watch desu

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>>30177415
Fuck you, everyday I'm watching anime and reading manga.

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>>30183377
Become a tranny and they it will become easier to watch.

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No I'm more manga ( and even LN ) than anime, cause I'm tired of all those great works getting butchered during their adaptation.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you guys discover new anime to watch?
every time i google "new animes" or whatever im subjected to zoomer voices and awful opinions

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>>30183530
You look at what's airing, duh.

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>>30183558
you watch ALL the anime?!

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>>30180824
Takagi-san is good but the other are shit

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>>30177415
I still read anime and light novel. Stopped watching anime long time ago except whenever there's Gundam anime on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

I watched my dress up darling a few days ago. I dont really watch anime as often as I di back in 2005-2010. Its impossible to keep up with all my interests now. I can rarely watch full streams because Im constantly buzzing and doing things around the house.

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>>30183373
That's not how I understood it. For me, the changing of the universe was intiated by his parents, precisely his mother. She didn't want him to grow up in a universe with evangelions and angels, so she did what was necessary to give the option to recreate a new one, and manipulated Gendo and Fuyutsuki to do the work. I'm not sure how much Gendo was aware of that.
>Although with him apparently insisting the ultimate form of actualization is becoming a cubical drone is rather insulting.
I have a different view. In a way, he made a choice that was selfless. His life went from being the center of the world as an eva pilot to being just another cog in the machine. But the life of many people improved. All these people killed in the 2nd impact, its consequences, and all that happens. Episode 1 Shinji wouldn't have been able to choose others over himself, even when comparing how he was feeling to people dying.
That's the way I see it at least.

>>30183530
Ask friends that have already recommended me good stuff. If you don't have that, find people online that has taste similar to yours, and pick in there. For seasonals I read the synopsis, look at the voice actors/art, studio and people behind the original work if there are any, and make my decision based on that. If I see everyone talking about something I'll usually watch it too, but it's often disappointing (like Spy x Family last season)

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>>30179482
>im retarded
youre a joke

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>>30177415
LoGH Die Neue These last week while I procrastinate taking care of my tuition fee

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>>30179273
stop pretending to be retarded. Anime is a much richer experience with animation, soundtrack and voice over that stimulates more senses. If its a good adaptation its the superior product. Youre turbo autist if you dont get this.

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>>30183719
Not him but the entire medium is plagued with archetypes, if you can recognize one of those in a single chapter, first minutes, then is a safe drop because the author is a waifu fag and will bend the story to appeal his own taste. All left is shit that could be good, but you would lie saying it will get you busy an entire season. Also backlog is a meme, if you didn’t watch it right away then it was not entertaining enough.

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>>30183853
I'd argue he was a cog in the machine in either scenario. He was a pawn in the great game his old man was playing against other old men.
He only gets promoted to a queen at the end through his growth.
I just don't see Wagslave Shinji making anything above maybe middle manager as there's nothing to push him forwards. Just stagnate as a cubedrone.

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>>30183725
They are all shit. The genre is just as shit and formulaic as isekai, the difference is that isekai fans are self-aware for the most part whereas fans of those crappy romcoms act like they are fucking masterpieces.

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anyway this is why /vt/ is faster than /a/

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>>30177415
I'm slowly getting back into it. I stopped watching anime for a year after watching pic related. I was excited about it because the premise was lesbians, vampires and a fetish for giving blood. It wasn't what I expected. I expected something very self-indulgent. I don't really know what I got, I feel like I didn't get it. The small part I felt I got, I feel like the staff was making fun of me for being precisely the kind of person expecting a self-indulgent anime. This came in two "parts", in a way. The first is the anime itself, which isn't really a romcom, more like a comedy most of the time, with some abstract anime stuff over. The second part was the main character itself, that has a fetish for blood donation and really likes the vampire girl, to the point of doing lots of things for her. But she was basically ridiculed the whole show. Not even in a kind of "it's cute how naive she is", but something more fundamental, like she was wrong, doing something bad, a deviant.
The final nail in the coffin was at the end. During all the 12 episodes the MC has tried to court the vampire, but utterly failed. Meanwhile, lots of men were also all over the vampire, including the judo club captain, that is tall, strong, and always ready for some action. They put the vampire under hypnosis to get some answers, so her response will be truthful. And when they ask her what kind of blood she prefers, she says that it's blood from hot-blooded men.
I actually felt kind of cucked. I don't know what it was supposed to mean exactly but congratulations Oshii and IG, you saw right through me. 10/10, I didn't expect to get such feelings from watching anime. It took me a while to recover though.

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>>30177415
A month ago. Try for 1 season/series a month. Get depressed if I don't watch for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

The last anime I watched was Saiki Kusuo no psi nan and was gladly surprised to see how faithful it was to the Manga.

That said, I read a lot of manga and very, very rarely watch anime because most of them are goddamn fucking awful

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>>30184060
I can count the number of good adaptations I've seen on one hand.

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>>30184060
Ah yes, a 'richer' experience. Who cares about the remaining 95% of the story you toss out? That probably didn't matter anyway. As long as the 5% that made it to the anime is 'richer'. BTW, we know what 'richer' means in regards to modern anime studios. It means more fanservice. You're literally throwing away most of the plot for stupid fanservice, and then pretending you're an intellectual for doing it.

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>>30185043
then you cant count.

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i dont suppose there is a site or something where i can click on a anime and it will notify me via email or whatever with news about said anime?
i keep missing out on season announcements and worst of all: movies
i hate randomly discovering that the anime i liked got tied up neatly in a movie i didnt know about

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>>30177415
Read my last Manga chapter today. Watched my last anime episode yesterday. Read my last light novel a few weeks ago because I'm waiting for the Overlord translation to be finished before starting anything. Played a jrpg and a jp gacha game today. I'm genuinely surprised sometimes at how many people on /vt/ or who enjoy vtubers in general don't do any weeb associated activities

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>>30185093
Fucking lmao. LNs are just anime plots stripped of the visuals that make them entertaining. LNs aren't well written. They aren't deep. They aren't clever. They are just written as a light read for teenagers. If you want to read then read real literature. LNs are fucking trash unless the story is presented in the form of an anime or manga.

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>>30185093
wtf are you on about retard? Are you from 2005 forums? Nothing you just said reflects the reality at any point in history. Clearly you only consume very limited amount of genres. Youre completely out of your depth.

>You're literally throwing away most of the plot for stupid fanservice

name one, or all the anime you can. I did say "good adaptation" btw. There is no anime with a decent score/reviews that fits that criteria.

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>>30185284
same, im also surprised how many ppl defend the many tourist vtubers that dont give a shit about anime.

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>>30185322
True, they aren't deep. But they're a hell of a lot deeper than anime, just watch pretty much any adaptation. You'd be surprised how much they can fuck up such a simple story. It's astonishing, really.

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>>30179035
This. Also onee-shota.

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>>30179927
>Isekai Meikyuu
Based on the highest level.

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>>30185333
Oh, so it's 'good adaptations' only. Which are out of the norm and completely defined by you, but you refuse to define. I see. Well, I can't argue that. If there is a mythical 'good adaptation' out there, I'm sure you are correct. I just haven't seen it.

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>>30177415
I watched a few episodes of Digimon Ghost Game 2 weeks ago.

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>>30177415
I just watch the same 5 anime over and over

[Anonymous No.]

Are Cumbuds and Saplings enjoying Made in Abyss? The former would enjoy all the cunny and the latter might watch it because their oshi likes it.

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>>30185577
As a chumpling I do, in fact, enjoy Made in Abyss.

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>>30185516
coward, refused to give examples to completely made up criteria. Ofcourse you havent seen shit, because you basically dont watch anime and lack experience. You have no examples to your strawman.

and no "good adaptation" ist defined by me, they are critically acclaimed showed by all metrics. Completely objective criteria.

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>>30185837
We were talking about Mushoku Tensei before you decided to start talking shit, and from what I've heard we should all agree that's an inferior adaptation. It's not bad per-se, but it's not as good as the LN. There, is that enough of an example for you?

Now you provide me one. Provide me an example where the anime was better than the source material. I'm waiting.

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>>30185643
Such a good filter anime and it makes twitter seethe. I am a little worried it's gonna turn me into a furfag.

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>>30186069
>Provide me an example where the anime was better than the source material. I'm waiting.
One Punch Man. Also nta

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>>30186186
False. Have you seen the OPM manga? That shit is fire, far more than the anime. At best the first season did it justice. The second season... did not. The anime also played down tatsumaki's 'skin-tight' dress, which is sad to say the least. Those panels in the manga awoke something in me.

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>>30184493
The only good romcom anime is ToraDora

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>>30186496
It was pretty boring up to episode 17 (?), I'm not sure if I remember it correctly but I'm sure you know what I mean which was absolutely fantastic and it kept going pretty strong after that. Anyways, it's much less gimmicky and formulaic than these recent romcoms.

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>>30177415
About 2 days ago

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>>30180145
Males happened and they brought a herd of redditors with them. Males in vtubing was genuinely a mistake

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>>30184205
I think the game/plan was mostly made by Yui, and that Gendo was more about the execution part. But outside of that, the fact that he accepts life as a cubedrone because it improves the lives of other people is proof of his growth.
I like to think that Anno puts some of himself into Evangelion, and it does make sense. He could have stayed an otaku, only consuming all the time, being self-centered. But he didn't, he produced stuff that he likes, but also that other people like, that will bring some joy, some comfort in their life, and even maybe push them in the right direction.
I feel like 4.0 is the way it is because people didn't get the message with the previous Eva iterations, so he had to make it really clear. Lots of people found comfort in Evangelion, but 4.0 is a gentle nudge saying that it's nice if you found comfort, but now it's time to actually do something.
That's my own interpretation at least, I don't claim that it's the only one

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>>30183401
>circumcision
NO!
NONONONONONONONONO!!!!!
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>30186069
>from what I've heard
what youve heard lmao
>we should all agree

your opinion is based purely on hearsay that validates your idiotic biases? Not to mention it doesnt at all fit what you described "You're literally throwing away most of the plot for stupid fanservice" . There is no plot thrown away in mushoku tensei and there isnt fanservice that is added.
You dont know what youre talking about and it shows.

> is that enough of an example for you?
no, you proved your strawman has 0 basis and you place no value on voice acting, soundtrack or animation. To you these things dont matter and the only thing you are capable of comparing is the amount of information one holds. Basically you can only compare the script length to the length of the source.
What mental deficiency do you have, for my future reference of encountering autists like this?

> Provide me an example where the anime was better than the source material.

Konosuba, Kara no kyoukai, Fate/Zero, Monogatari, Tensura, Re;Zero, Violet Evergarden, Eighty Six, Gundam Unicorn, Boccano, Durarara, Legend of Galactic Heroes

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>>30190014
So you dispute the fact that the Mushoku Tensei anime is worse than the LN? What exactly does it do better? What makes it 'richer'?

Talk to me about ANY of the characters in Mushoku Tensei. And I mean ANY. I can provide you with a better and more in-depth description of them than you can, just having read the LN. However, I'm sure you can provide me with a list of coomer bait miles long from the anime.

Let me guess, you're thinking about Ghyslaine? That would be the obvious target. I guess it's just to make the plot 'richer' that she exists? I can't imagine her actual backstory and motivation would make it into an anime. How do you not see that you're missing a significant part of the story here?

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I'm not watching as many filler shows. Abyss and Lycoris are the only seasonal shows I'm doing. One piece is stuck in backlog hell for when nobody is live.

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>>30177415
I haven't had time lately, health issues causing constant tiredness and really fucking bad adhd.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only watching Future GPX cyber formula because of F1's off season and Feesh's streams. It's alright so far.

[Anonymous No.]

I caught up on the overlord anime yesterday.
Other than that it's been months I'll be honest,

[Anonymous No.]

The most recent thing I finished watching was Spy Family and that was because I just found it fun. It's the only anime I've watched in over a year. My main thing is playing video games. I'd rather play video games than watch anime these days.
To add to that, I'd rather play video games than watch a stream. It just depends on what I feel like doing. In my heart and soul, I genuinely do not care about any of the anime I may have been missing. I don't care, I'll be more invested in a game or stream instead.

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>>30177415
i mostly read manga
but i usually watch one episode of anime per day

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>>30177415
I read a lot of LNs, and used to watch a lot of anime. Since getting into hololive a few years ago my anime consumption is limited to binging one or two of the most appealing series after each season.

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>>30177415
i stopped watching anime years ago. manga is just better. if an anime for the manga i like comes out i ignore it because i don't want my headcannon voices to be shattered

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>>30194535 (me)
read molester man.

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>>30186069
I think you're making a mistake by judging if an adptation is better or worse than the source material. I think the important point of an adaptation is that it brings something to the table. In the case of Mushoku Tensei, you can feel the love of the staff through the OPs, each being different. Inori no Uta, used for the OPs when they arrive to Millishion, is beautiful and fits the anime perfectly. The contrast between the OP of ep 16 when Rudeus arrives in Millishion and is still in "adventurer mode", excited to see a new city, lookinh for trouble with the kidnappers, and the OP of ep 17, where you see Paul slowly falling appart while trying to find his family and other people from Fittoa, perfectly highlights the themes of that arc, in a way that the LN couldn't. On the other hand, the anime lacked the complete explanation of why one of the girl was wearing skimpy clothes.
The two have a reason to exist, they both bring something to the table.

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>>30177415
>when is the last time any of (You) watched anime/read manga or consumed similar related content?
2020

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>>30177415
I still read manga daily and LNs/WNs but drop anime a long time ago before even I watch vtuber. I think the last anime I watch is NNB season 3

[Anonymous No.]

Manga >>>>>>>> Anime

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>>30177415
Stopped watching anime few years before covid and finding vtubers. Still reading some yurishit manga. Never really liked jrpgs or other anime games. 99% of stuff I fap to is hentai or JAV though.

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>>30179273
That's a room temperature IQ take.

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>>30177415
I watched Kuro no Shoukanshi yesterday.

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>>30177415
Probably 3 months since I last read manga, last year for anime. If fanfiction about anime/manga counts, then today

[Anonymous No.]

Not much these days, but I've never been one to follow every season, always been more into anime movies, and would only check out series after completion if they looked really interesting.

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>>30178832
>>30177769
do you actually think manga and anime are all adaptations of LNs? weird retard

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>>30177415
The only anime I watch these days are sequels of shows I liked back when I was really into anime 6/7 years ago. I do read manga regularly though, they're the only thing that can keep me entertained besides nonfiction books.

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>>30181172
The Konosuba original novels came out before the Isekai boom started. It's also parodies fantasy tropes, rather than wallowing in them.

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>>30185577
made in abyss seems to be the most listed snime under "likes" for EN debuts, including ame, calli, and mumei at least iirc. I know irys loved it too

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>>30177415
I watch/read a lot of anime/manga. I try and keep up with at least five shows each season. My routine is usually an episode while I work out, and an episode while I eat dinner. I read manga while I eat lunch or snack. And if I don't care enough about a show to feel like I'm missing out on subs, I might just marathon it dubbed while I'm drawing or something.

Isekai Ojisan is my favorite this season, but I was already a fan of the manga.

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>>30177415
I like anime.

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>>30186069
Isekai fans should be banned from having opinions under the penalty of forced sterilization.

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>>30186388
The OPM manga is an adaptation.

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>>30177415
Anime, a few years since I watched regularly, still marathon through shows occasionally
Manga, I read whenever new chapters are out for the dozens of manga I'm following

[Anonymous No.]

>>30180880
N5合格おめでとう!

[Anonymous No.]

the only anime i've watched in 2 years is kaiji

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>>30180145
HoloEN, that's why. /vt/ is basically /jp/ outcasts who were shat on for not picking up japanese chuubas and a fuckload of tourists.

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>>30177415
Spring 2022 was a damn good season, I'm waiting for Summer to be over and then marathon a few series.
I'm also trying to do at least 1 backlog anime a week. I used to do 2-cours daily but then I found a job.

[Anonymous No.]

I never rly watched anime but I was always a big fan of jp games and VNs, Found chubbas thru the general thread on /jp/ and been browsing here since.

wish more of the board came this way, instead of from fucking reddit and other drama sites, /hlg/ used to be actually fun to be in

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>>30177415
No way anime is dumb.

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>>30177415
About 3 weeks ago

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>>30177415
Lik a few days ago actually. I still do watch and enjoy anime.

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>>30177415
I stopped watching most anime well before I got into vtubing, but I still have a standard manga reading list in the double digits.

[Anonymous No.]

Just watched op red movie. I do need to catch up on the op manga. I usually read them when an arc is completed.
Not sure if there’s anything this season to watch. Probably will just keep up with some of the manga series i been reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30217811
Keep like that

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>>30193291
>I'd rather play video games than watch a stream
Based. Why would I watch someone who sucks at the game instead of play the game myself?

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>>30191228
take your meds son, you literally havent watched it and are literally making things up, you have no experience to draw any conclusion from. Just admit that youre a shithead that couldnt even give 1 example for your strawman.

>What exactly does it do better? What makes it 'richer'?

it does character design, voice acting, soundtrack, animation, art, directing better than LN, but again we know that these are things you dont value.

But in reality all these things add to create a richer and fuller experience. Anime is not an audio book.

>Talk to me about ANY of the characters
what a ridiculous statement. Do you have any critical thinking at all?
We are talking about an adaptation that is incomplete right now, and youre relying on my memory of characters?
The question is whether i missed out on something that you didnt while reading the LN in the same story arc.

>coomer bait
the only coomer bait in the anime is the coomer bait from the source material, like rudy being creepy degenerate

> can't imagine her actual backstory and motivation would make it into an anime
why cant you imagine it? Everything is there.
Her family resented her for being wild troublemaker and were very surprised in how she was described and what she achieved.
Bitch they literally invented new languages for the show. Just stop talking about anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSby5akyOo

[Anonymous No.]

i'm into bald ugly bastards

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>>30177415
still read manga, now watch vtubers instead of anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>30225514
You know, sometimes you can just watch an anime adaptation of a manga instead of the manga. If you like animation and voice over that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30177415
The important question is if that pic is from a r34 video

[Anonymous No.]

>>30225783
No, that is her 1.0 3D from HoloGra. Her KK card and MMD model is based on her 2.0 has significantly better colorization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30187357
t. ENfag

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>>30177755
sounds like you just have a shit oshi then and that's a problem you CAN fix.

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>>30222117
>voice acting, soundtrack, animation, directing
The LN can't have those because of the medium. And adding something is not always a net positive. Mushoku is a good adaptation, so this stuff is good, but that's not always the case.
>But in reality all these things add to create a richer and fuller experience. Anime is not an audio book.
Again, because the adaptation is good. Too often I've read something and then watched an adaptation, only to find that everything looked worse than how I imagined it. And I don't agree that the experience is richer and fuller. It is different, just like books and movies are different. Take Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Both the book and the movie are incredible. But the book doesn't have the soundtrack, the visuals, the acting, and the movie cuts some stuff that make Hunter S Thompson writing unique. They complete each other, which is what a good adaptation is all about.
>The question is whether i missed out on something that you didnt while reading the LN in the same story arc.
Yes, you missed on the travel from Millis to the other continent, which involved Rudy's aunt if I remember correctly. You also missed the karaage rant, though the characters involved here still haven't appeared again in the translated LN. And as always, you miss a lot of internal dialogue, but thas how anime adaptations are (Koyomi got butchered by that).
>rudy being creepy degenerate
Kill yourself
>why cant you imagine it? Everything is there.
> Her family resented her for being wild troublemaker and were very surprised in how she was described and what she achieved
The part after she got teleported is missing from the anime.
tl;dr: Mushoku Tensei is an example of a good adaptation, but the anime isn't better than the LN.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch anime
I don't read manga
I'm not interested in japanese culture
I don't even watch anitubers because it's still about fucking anime and japan
I don't watch fleshtubers either
and I'm not going to learn japanese

My interests are *very* western, from ttrpgs, to autism simulators to warhammer to euro comics to power metal to european history from the roman republic to the french revolution. I'm just here because very tom, dick and harry in my socials were sperging about vtubers and I decided to check out when HoloEN was announced, then I saw this bitch and figured out she's an anon from the first few streams because I recognized her references. The only thing that changed from then and now is I listen to vocaloid, j-rap, japanese internet music now.

It's laughable that weebs make the consumption of surface level chinese cartoons their fucking personality. It doesn't matter if you're ironic weebs or unironic weebs, you're still all bottom feeders to me.

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>>30231266
>everything looked worse than how I imagined it
that's just first-experience bias, it doesnt make it inferior. Youd not have those opinions if you watched it in different order.

> I don't agree that the experience is richer and fuller

its really not complicated, theres nothing to disagree with. Anime literally has more tools to express things and can stimulate more senses. That gives it much higher potential for a richer experience. There is a difference between a line of dialogue and actually having actors delivering those lines with their skill +animation/video accompanying it +some soundtrack to complement it.
Anime can be a full-course meal, where as the source cant.

> They complete each other, which is what a good adaptation is all about.
that makes no sense at all. Adaptations cant "complete" anything, both are and should be completely stand alone and should be judged as such. Ideally without biases like "i didnt imagine it this way", that's unfair to the adaptation and unreasonable as what people imagine are different and subjective among individuals, and usually people who adapt have much more insight of what original intended than fans of original, and also have access to author's thoughts.

>Kill yourself
literally the opinion of many LN/WN readers, i was also generous.

>the anime isn't better than the LN

if one were to choose to experience only one of them, then anime is far superior product for all the reasons i gave. There is pretty much no reason to favour LN over anime, unless you dont care about anything that anime can add and has added.

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>>30177415
Rarely watch anime nowadays but still keep up with some manga and light novels. Way less than I used to.

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>>30177415
No, I hate anime but read manga. I think this happens to other people with personalities close to ADHD but who are fast reading.

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>>30236476
>ADHD but who are fast reading.
its a shame, you probably dont really study the artwork of the manga that much.

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>>30234544
>that's just first-experience bias, it doesnt make it inferior. Youd not have those opinions if you watched it in different order.
No, having done the opposite with some stuff, Mushoku Tensei included, there are some parts that my imagination fills better.
>its really not complicated, theres nothing to disagree with. Anime literally has more tools to express things and can stimulate more senses. That gives it much higher potential for a richer experience. There is a difference between a line of dialogue and actually having actors delivering those lines with their skill +animation/video accompanying it +some soundtrack to complement it.
Your premise that more = better is flawed, and doesn't reflect reality. Having more tools at your disposal is also more chances to fuck things up. You can't make a casting error for the voice of a character in a book. You can't have generic music, uninspired background, bad CGI. You also miss out on internal experience, as I've said earlier. First person in movies is hard to get right, while for books it works really well.
>that makes no sense at all. Adaptations cant "complete" anything, both are and should be completely stand alone and should be judged as such.
So now you're arguing that animation doesn't bring anything new to the table compared to a book, which is the exact opposite of what you said before. Try to focus a little more.
And you're the one not making sense. Adaptations can't be judged as stand alone because they don't stand alone, that's the definition of an adaptation. Hellsing Ultimate is basically a copy paste of the manga in anime, nice but doesn't bring anything new. It doesn't have much value as an independant piece of art compared to the original. On the other hand, something like Ghost in the Shell brings a lot to the table that wasn't here before. It goes beyond being a basic adaptation.
>Ideally without biases like "i didnt imagine it this way", that's unfair to the adaptation and unreasonable as what people imagine are different and subjective among individuals, and usually people who adapt have much more insight of what original intended than fans of original, and also have access to author's thoughts.
You're equating faithfulness to the author = good. Ghost in the Shell is the living proof that it's not true. Casshern Sins is another example, blending the borders between adaptation and spin off. Sidonia gains a whole new meaning by removing parts of the manga. It also works in the other direction, for example with the Evangelion manga, that explores different personalities in the characters.
>if one were to choose to experience only one of them, then anime is far superior product for all the reasons i gave. There is pretty much no reason to favour LN over anime, unless you dont care about anything that anime can add and has added.
As I've explained, your reasons are wrong. The fact that you prefer anime over LN in general is a consequence of your lack of imagination and inability to focus when reading. One detail that I've left out until is that reading is active. You have to actually read the words, progress in the book, moving the pages. Animation is passive, once you launch your episode it will play until it ends. You can't spend more time some parts without breaking the flow, because video is way more linear than written text. You don't have to make any effort to watch it, you don't have to engage with the text. At every frame you're missing lots of details in the backgrounds, the gesture, the tone of voice. Almost no one actually sees everything there is in an anime. On the other hand, most people read every word in the books.
It's also hard to argue that the adaptations are closer to the author's wishes when he is the one controlling the word he puts on paper, instead of just talking with the staff. The Heaven's Feel movies are a good example of a director cutting content from the source material to fit his vision, while adding nothing.
You know nothing about books and even less about animation, while pretending the opposite. Read more, watch more, compare the adaptations, engage with the stories instead of being passive, ask yourself why the creators did the thing the way they did. Your metaphor with food was correct: right now you're devouring art like it's fast food. Try to get instead more of a fine dining experience, or even get interesting in how it's made, in how cooks do their stuff. Your belly may be a bit less full but you'll grow as a person.

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>>30177415
I still check out seasonal anime, but I almost always drop them them a couple episodes in. I kinda miss the days where I could binge trash like Naruto and still find it entertaining.

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>>30177415
It varies quite a bit, sometimes I don't watch any anime at all for months and sometimes I watch 10 at once. Watching vchuubas did reduce my anime watching a lot but I more or less ran out of older ones I actually would like
Quite enjoying Yofukashi no Uta, Maou-wagie and Lycoris Recoil this season.

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I don't watch seasonal but I watch older OVAs and shows when I hear good things about them. Read manga more than watch anime. Read Devilman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30240781
>Read Devilman
>Realizes everything is a Devilman clone

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>>30240889
I mean yeah Go nagai kind of paved the way for modern manga. Everyone is copying someone :) their tastes can even make their work better. Chainsawman, Jojo, Berserk, all Def written by dudes who liked go Nagai but influential in their own right. Creation is a circle and it rules.

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>>30243869
Yeah, that wasn't meant as criticism or negative, I love the Devilman formula and always like to see people putting their own spin on it

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>>30244043
It is indeed my favorite formula, except when it came to crybaby, wasn't a fan.

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>>30177415
I have watched maybe 15 anime shows all the way through in my life. However I play tons of games that have anime-style characters in them. Unless a show is really fucking good I just don't have the patience for them.

Anyone else like this?

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>>30244309
I'm not a huge fan of the story of Crybaby either, but the OST is incredible. The animation isn't Yuasa's best work, but some parts are still great. I hope we'll get to see more of Yuasa and Ushio together in the future.

>>30244493
What have you watched?

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>>30244590
Years ago my friend showed me Mind Game and I'll never forget it. Speaking of studio 4c I recommend checking out Memories to anyone reading this. Even if just for the first short, "Magnetic Rose".

[Anonymous No.]

>>30244995
Mind Game is great. Thanks for the recommandation, I'll check it out.

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>>30244590
Madoka
Durarara
Kill la Kill
Evangelion
Cowboy Bebop
Anohana
Baccano
Gurren Lagann
Wolf Children (movie)
Nichijou
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (movie)
Daily Lives of High School Boys
Usagi Drop
Code Geass
Azumanga Daioh
Toradora

And I am currently reading One Piece. I don't claim to have good taste but these are the ones that grabbed me enough to finish them.

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I used to watch a dozen or so shows at a time, but I've been slacking on seasonal shit. So I've been culling the amount every season to a few shows now. I mostly read manga and manhwa when im not watching chuubas or anime tho.

[Anonymous No.]

I still consume manga but much less than many years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30245209
Enjoy fren

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>>30245460
Take a look at Ghost in the Shell (the two movies, stand alone complex), Jin-Rou, Patlabor 1 & 2, Mind Game, Ping Pong, Akagi, Casshern Sins, Sidonia, Girls und Panzer, Girls Last Tour, Gunbuster, Diebuster, Gungrave, Haibane Renmei, Kino no Tabi (both), Boogiepop (both), Sonny boy, Kuuchu Buranko, Mushoku Tensei, Parasyte, Mirai Nikki, Redline, Symphogear, Samurai Flamenco, Showa something Rakugo something, Zaregoto, Tatami Galaxy, Trigun, Yuuki Yuuna, Pleiades

[Anonymous No.]

>>30238189
>animation doesn't bring anything new
animation brings something new by default, it doesnt have to have new events or scenes or dialogue to bring something new.

Good adaptation is good on its own, not requiring any comparison to source material. They are not made with assumption that audience has any experience with the original and reading source is not requirement for a complete and intended experience by the creators.

So its not the opposite of what i said, you are just not understanding the idea. No one makes adaptations specifically for fans of source, with exception of something like dies irae fan funded anime.
>Adaptations can't be judged as stand alone because they don't stand alone
That makes absolutely no sense , and pretty much no one believes this, you have some bad unpopular take there. Adaptations are all intended by the creators to be stand alone and theyre judged as such by pretty much every at least half-decent critic. People who review Game of Thrones review it as it is, ignoring books. Making comparisons to source is a completely different perspective with different goals.


>Hellsing Ultimate is basically a copy paste of the manga in anime
And that is what the audience wants and that's what makes it a good adaptation. It doesnt change anything because its not necessary, what it adds is amazing voice acting, soundtrack and animation.

Again, you are doing what the other poster did and place no value at all on all the things manga lacks and anime adds. If you do then it clearly matters very little to you. The kind of person who would watch anime on 2x speed or while playing a video game. You cant appreciate all those aspects unless you give them full attention.
> LN in general is a consequence of your lack of imagination and inability to focus when reading

bullshit, this just unjustified elitism. Ive read song of ice and fire, i have plenty of imagination. Imagination isnt comparable substitute to real actors and soundtrack, it cant. It seems more like its your own deficiency in ability to appreciate performances of actors, nuances, expression of animation, the soundtrack. All of which are artistic disciplines which you have little respect for it seems. Clearly not into sakuga either.
>you have to actually read the words, progress in the book, moving the pages.
Youre almost acting like absence of something results in something greater, dont be a pseudo intellectual. youre not making sense. And making really dumb emotional appeal.

Its logically fallacious. More effort = better? You also actually have to read or listen the words in anime, you have to pay attention to nuances of voices and process visuals. Yes you also need to make effort watching to not miss anything, and just like you miss things watching, you can miss things reading too. You can re-read pages and you can rewatch scenes if needed.

>nothing about books
assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. Stop jerking yourself off. Your arguments are not very logical and making conjectures not based on facts but your biases. Good example of dunning kruger.

>fit his vision, while adding nothing
Lmao, new scenes, locations and events and attention to detail original doesnt have. Shouldve paid more attention, and as predicted you have no respect or appreciation of what anime does best and are guided solely by biases.
Try actually reading any HF animation material instead of regurgitating reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>30185322
kek this can't be real

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>>30247044
>animation brings something new by default, it doesnt have to have new events or scenes or dialogue to bring something new.
It's not new, it's exactly what you expect from a basic adaptation. Average voice acting, average music. What's the point ? It's just busywork. No creativity is used. It's not art, it's factory work.
>Good adaptation is good on its own, not requiring any comparison to source material. They are not made with assumption that audience has any experience with the original and reading source is not requirement for a complete and intended experience by the creators.
It is 100% expected for most Japanese media, which is the subject here.
>So its not the opposite of what i said, you are just not understanding the idea. No one makes adaptations specifically for fans of source, with exception of something like dies irae fan funded anime.
You don't understand how the anime industry works. Fans of the source material are the one financing the adaptation through buying blu rays and merch, after having bought the LN, manga, and sometimes even spend money on the gacha.
>That makes absolutely no sense , and pretty much no one believes this, you have some bad unpopular take there.
So your argument is "bad unpopular take", got it. This probably explains why everyone constantly compares the SnK anime to the manga, or the Harry Potter movies to the book.
>Adaptations are all intended by the creators to be stand alone and theyre judged as such by pretty much every at least half-decent critic.
No half-decent critic that's judging an adapation would miss out on comparing it to the original work, you're either being dishonest or consuming garbage criticism. Which wouldn't be surprising since most criticism is garbage by nature.
>People who review Game of Thrones review it as it is, ignoring books. Making comparisons to source is a completely different perspective with different goals.
So either you've never talked to people that watched Game of Thrones, or the people around you are illiterate. I've never watched that series and have no interest in it, but I still kind of know the differences between the books and the series because people talk about that all the time. The books sold 90 million copies, the series was viewed by at least 50 million peoole. Do you actually believe that the intersection of these two sets is empty? No, not at all. Most people are in the intersection.
>And that is what the audience wants and that's what makes it a good adaptation.
"Something is good because that's what the audience wants". No it's not, what's the point of having artists if they just do what the audience wants? Again, you're seeing art like some factory job. You should give up on anime and go watch marvel, your brain is set in concrete and can't adapt to new ideas.
>Again, you are doing what the other poster did and place no value at all on all the things manga lacks and anime adds.
We already went over the fact that the manga doesn't "lack" anything, just like an anime doesn't "lack" the interactivity of a video game.
Refer back to the notion of factory work. Sure it's good and all but we already have the hellsing manga. Was an adaptation really necessary? Think about what they could have done instead. They could have been Ping Pong, but instead chose to be a basic adaptation. That's what I call a lack.
>The kind of person who would watch anime on 2x speed or while playing a video game. You cant appreciate all those aspects unless you give them full attention.
Projecting? Watching something is a full time activity, and I don't get why you would x2 your anime. If you don't want to watch it don't watch it. But watching it 2x is like watching it on a phone on the bus, it's a terrible experience.
>bullshit, this just unjustified elitism. Ive read song of ice and fire, i have plenty of imagination.
Sounds like I touched a nerve. Books have a higher entry bar than video, that's a fact. And books can reach a way higher level of complexity than video.
>Imagination isnt comparable substitute to real actors and soundtrack, it cant.
You can't. You have no idea what other people can do with their imagination. I often get surprised by how lines are said by voice actors compared to how I imagined it, the difference between the voice I expected and what's in the adaptation, the OST being not exactly as I imagined, the buildings, the background, the characters. It would be weird for me to read a book and then go into an adaptation without any idea of what it's supposed to be like. As I've said before, you have to male conscious effort to engage with the text. Reading words is the first level.

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>>30247044
>>30250705
> It seems more like its your own deficiency in ability to appreciate performances of actors, nuances, expression of animation, the soundtrack. All of which are artistic disciplines which you have little respect for it seems. Clearly not into sakuga either.
Look into all the examples I've pointed at, and you'll see examples of all of what you're talking about. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is more than just good acting, it's an expression of the deep friendship between Johnny Depp and Hunter S Thompson. This isn't just regular method acting, it's a unique view of the relationship between two people. This is impossible to reproduce. There will never be another performance like that. It's good, it's great, it's perfect, but more than that it's also unique. It has meaning. It's not an industrial product made in a sterile laboratory to fit perfectly some requirements. It's living. It has a soul.
Ping Pong, Ghost in the Shell, Mind Game are all example of beautiful animation and excellent OST. As for voice acting, I could cite Kumo Desu ga, which is carried all the way by Aoi Yuuki. So, you're wrong on that point, I have no issue appreciating all of those things. I have respect for craftsmen, no issues with that, but what I'm looking for in animation is art. You don't understand that, and talk only about craftsmanship. But I'm not buying a car, or building a house, I'm looking for art.
>Youre almost acting like absence of something results in something greater
This has nothing to do with what I was saying, but to answer that: please explain me how you would improve La Jetée by using less still images and more video. You will either ignore this, deflect it, or call La Jetée pseudo intellectual bullshit or something.
>youre not making sense. And making really dumb emotional appeal.
So no arguments? I'll take that as you agreeing.
>Its logically fallacious. More effort = better? You also actually have to read or listen the words in anime, you have to pay attention to nuances of voices and process visuals. Yes you also need to make effort watching to not miss anything, and just like you miss things watching, you can miss things reading too. You can re-read pages and you can rewatch scenes if needed.
You don't get it. It's possible to force someone to watch something (see Clockwork Orange), it's not possible to force someone to read a book. It mechanically doesn't work. The action of reading has to come from you. Perception is passive. To force someone to read something, you have to make words flash at the screen one by one = make it a video. As for the more effort = better, yes, good art is about investing yourself in it. You said it yourself : "Yes you also need to make effort watching to not miss anything"
>assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. Stop jerking yourself off. Your arguments are not very logical and making conjectures not based on facts but your biases. Good example of dunning kruger.
Once again, I'll take the lack of argument as tacit agreement.
>Lmao, new scenes, locations and events and attention to detail original doesnt have. Shouldve paid more attention, and as predicted you have no respect or appreciation of what anime does best and are guided solely by biases.
>Try actually reading any HF animation material instead of regurgitating reddit.
So either you didn't read the VN, in which case you have no basis to judge the adaptation, or you read it and missed half of HF. In which case you would be exactly like the person who wrote the animation material, that was solely guided by his bias for Sakura and forgot Illya. I personally call that "butchering the source material", which you'll deny because you're either a secondary, can't understand that characters can be important even if Shirou doesn't have sex with them, or are a delusional Sakurafag. Take your pick.