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[Anonymous No.]

she is proof that cover doesn’t restrict their talents freedom

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Anon. They do. That's the whole point of Cover.

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>>29635698
Cover barely restricts their talent. Each Holo is virtually on her own.

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I fucking kneel, you cunts get great music videos and the best content
My oishi doesn't give a fuck about that stuff

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>>29635323
>denys Gura a daki because its "illegal" and than lets Shion get one a week later.

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>>29635735
I find Ayame's expressions fascinating.
A whore that doesn't look like a whore.

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>>29635323
They were getting fucked by nijis in the last few months so they went all out this time.

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>>29635323
>Denies watame her mousepad
Nah, fuck management

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>>29635323

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>>29636578
maybe do something about the faggot in her country being anal on social media

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>>29635323
They do. And it depends on their image and their persuasive skills. Marine can talk her way into having a lewd image, but Watame cannot.

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>>29635323
she is proof hags are good for you

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I was told that Hololive is only good because of the oppressive moral code that limits what they can do

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>>29639846
yep, and now hololive is becoming shit.

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>>29635323
She fight Hololive manager to the dead and bring Hololive summer back.

> MARINE DID
>NOT COVER

Watch stream before schizo

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>>29639846
It's become shitter than before

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>>29636591
Literally the opposite
She's seisou as fuck

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>>29639846
>only
What are you, retarded?

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>>29645277
No, I just read your posts and the dozens of replies to it that say "based". Sorry that you changed your mind so quickly and now you look hypocritical.

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>>29636578
That's on EN management

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>>29635323

Lol cover had no part in this song, she payed for it all herself, otherwise you'd better believe they would tone it way the fuck down.

Another reason she got to do this is because she has the clout to sell 500k worth of goods in like 10 seconds, since despite all the bugs and seething women on social media, she has nearly 2mill fans that love their horny little pirate.

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>>29648378
who do you think hires EN management you retard?

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>>29648957
So you mean... she had total freedom?

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If they don't it shows their talents are full of lazy bitches lol. That was their only excuse lmao

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>>29649794
Cant really use this as an example of cover not restricting things, when cover had nothing to do with it in the first place you know.

It would be another thing if they helped pay for it, but do you really see them doing that?

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>>29650421
Which means they didn't get in her way, proving she had total freedom?

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>>29651037
The nijifag community really has been replaced with leftists by now, hasn't it? They argue in the exact same way: if you're losing the argument, just redefine things.

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>>29651037
If she had total freedom, shed be running around in her bikini every stream anon.

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>>29651428
Wait you mean people finally came to a consensus about what talent freedom means over the week after kson debuted? Or is it still changing to whatever better fits the current narrative against Hololive?

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>>29650421
Anon... They still make judgment calls on things related to her image. They just let her do what she wanted.

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Talent Freedom is nothing. It is a buzzword Vshojo uses for their marketing but it ultimately means nothing that would contribute to the viewer experience.
Kson was as free as she could be and she did nothing notable. The Vshojo talents are using their freedom to not stream at all.

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>>29652249
>Kson was as free as she could be and she did nothing notable. The Vshojo talents are using their freedom to not stream at all.
This. The fact that Kson presented Cover being too restrictive as her major reason for leaving and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing with her newfound freedom is all you need to know that these restrictions are just a bogeyman.

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>>29635323
She’s obviously trying to get fired to be will nazuna.Let her be free

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>>29652430
Hm, aren't you glossing over the whole reason why kson 'quit' in the first place?

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>>29637039
Watame is not sexual at all

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>>29653109
>Kson presented Cover being too restrictive as her major reason for leaving
No?

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>>29638295
They understand what the fans want.
I don't think that most watamates want to see Watame go down the lewd path like Marine. Watamates don't even want Watame to play Rust because of all the griefing there.

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>marine thinking of quitting after coco left
>streams less now
>less motivated
>pays for her own MV’s
Kek, she won’t last much longer

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>>29653279
>I don't think that most watamates want to see Watame go down the lewd path like Marine.
I just want a mousepad you fucks

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>>29653496
She wants to be with nazuna and kson

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>>29635323
true, I've been telling you guys for months that the whole "muh freedom" shit was just an excuse

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>>29653269
>He thinks being put on vacation for 6 weeks, and thrown into a banishment room upon return where all your ideas were rejected for reading a youtube statistic isn't restrictive.

Shit anon, what is restrictive to you then?

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>>29654066
Even ignoring the fact that you're wrong, how does this disprove the fact that she had all the freedom in the world as an indie and did nothing with it?

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>>29654202
I'd like to know how that's wrong.

Also she didn't do nothing, but you'd know that if you actually watched her.

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>>29635323
Noel is more of a slut than Marine.

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>>29654580
Comparing anyone to Noel is like comparing a saint to Babylonian whore, disparity is so big, comparison is meaningless.

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>>29654334
Schizo-kun... You know we can all watch the streams, right? You can't just lie.

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>>29652249
You were given multiple examples of cover's restrictions in this thread. If you fucking watched streams you would know of multiple restrictions cover has given.
This is next level Holocope, one that most holobros aren't even willing to take.

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Wait hold up, Marine had to pay, using her own dollars, for her music video??? LMAO

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>>29654927
She got put in a banishment room for thanking her fans all around the world? Wow that is pure freedom right there.

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>>29655095
Vshojo has talent freedom!!! Are you ready for your 98th 8 hour episode of WATCHING DISCORD MEMES MOTHERFUCKERS????? YAYYYYY

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>>29655164
Kinda dumb huh? It's cool though, 500k worth of merch sold out in like 10 seconds, so she should be able to make another horny vid soon.

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>>29655164
If it's an original they receive a budget and they have to pay the rest if they exceed it. Same goes for every Holo. Moona has explained how it works before.

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>>29635323
She's proof that Cover does restrict their talents and is willing loosen them up when convinced to.
Marine made all of this happen and is the center of Hololive Summer for this reason.

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Connor was right about hololive
Marine is a soulless whore

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>>29656104
I think that's how she got a little leverage, she probably didn't touch covers budget at all, and payed for it entirely out of her own pocket so she could be like: "I payed for this myself, so I think I should be able to do at least this much"

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>>29635323
talent freedom is a lie used by indies to cope when they don't get accepted in a big company

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>>29653496
Also
>Develops more her characters in the MV's to become the embodiment of seggs to fit better in Vshojo

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>>29656524
Would Cover really say no to Toby Fox + coombait + Camellia + HoloSummer advertisement?

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If talent freedom means talking about cock, vaginal discharge and streaming with bfs than I'm happy to follow the oppressive company

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KNEEL

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>>29656912
Yes

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>>29635323
Not really. She has to push really fucking hard for any of these things. Like really really fucking hard. She might as well be Sisyphus at this point

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>>29656524
Haven't thought of that before but yeah, could be the case. Especially when she made Shukkou where she really pushed hard, to me it feels like she knows what she wants to create and who she wants to work with.

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>>29651037
She would stream in bikinin if she really has freedom

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>>29654202
You are wrong not him

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A man needs a link

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Nevermind, a man has found it.

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>>29659889
>>29660482
>Found link
>Didn't share it with the class

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>>29635323
Yes, we know. Coco was a liar and Sana is lazy. There's a reason they graduated and the others have not.

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>>29656986
Too busy throwing up.

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>>29660556
Only cause it deserves to be seen and shared.
https://youtu.be/vV-5W7SFHDc

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>>29656862
this. so much this

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why do you watch a whore

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>>29662614
but I don't watch your oshi?

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>>29662614
why are you gay?

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>>29662614
They're the only good type of women

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>>29662614
this isn't the vshojo thread anon

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>>29635323
They can't even play license-free Minecraft mod

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>>29655095
Name one thing kson did while “freed”. Cataloguebaby, she completely stagnated inside a month and just does unpainted snapshit gunpla. Then she jumped right back into a corpo, which by definition is less free than being your own entity, and it remains to be seen if she does much of anything with it. In a perfect world, she’ll have a framework to work inside and get creative again like Coco was.

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>>29667311
Using the power of watching streams, I know that kson was sponsored by intel, a built her computer thanks to that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eBCZmFC8NI

Because I'm pretty cool and watch streams I also know she was sponsored by nosh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0jYy1S8dVY

Then using the awe inspiring power of actually watching streams, I also know Kson had a collab with Cafe Ninkyo

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/sh6wa3/ksons_cafe_collab_items_are_a_bit_lets_just_say/

Shit I think I've named at least 3 things, there's also the fact that shes had multiple batches of merch that sold out instantly, but that's nothing too right?

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>>29635323
Her cunny still restricted and intact

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>>29670913
NTA but how is shill streams example of freedom? That's fucking retarded. Holos have shill streams too you dumdum. EN even has a cafe thing in Korea right now.

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>>29636578
>denys

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>>29635323
Can she collab with nijiEN?

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>>29636578
what does daki mean?

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>>29673241
Its the idea that people were willing to work with her as an indie instead of needing her to be corporate that's a big deal. Usually its hard to get corporations to invest in those types of things with out a corporate backing cause they don't know if you're just going to vanish while they're printing 9001 napkins with the indies face on them leaving them with a dead investment.

There's also the fact that other anon was a faggot and decided that being sent expensive gundam models by the boat load wasn't interesting enough to count as her doing something.

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>>29674087
holy fucking newfag please stop watching vtubers....

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>>29674612
no

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>>29674087
kek

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>>29674087
cute retard

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>>29636591
Top class whore

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>>29674087
Why don't you just Google it instead of looking like a retarded negroid?

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>>29675422
Enjoy your vacation

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>>29675844
This is one of the few places left that I can tell you to your face that you are a fucking nigger, with no repercussions. But god help me if I try to post an imbedded link. 4chan is weird like that.

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>>29676460
Not true, I got a temp ban from here before for saying nigger. Really depends on the jannie that's lurking at any given time.

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They actually do, but it makes them creative, so it's a worthy trade off

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>>29674087
Anon... you have to go back

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>>29635323
>Marine wants something
>Management initially tells her no
>Marine stops streaming
>Spends half her free time recording for her projects
>Drags management in meetings until they get sick of her
>Uses her own money for her projects
If management STILL told her no at that point, Marine might as well quit

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>>29675844
Back to plebbit, porch monkey

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>>29635323
TALENT FREEDOM

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>>29636578
Hmmmmm it's almost as if Western sensibilities were a bit different than Japanese...

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>>29656461
Who?

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>>29681257
Marine is honestly in a bit of tight spot when you think about it. Although she'll most likely rebuild her popularity, it'll take some time anyway, and the contracts and connections she currently has for MV production will not be the same and they won't be able to use Houshou Marine character.

She got so far that she'd lose more by quitting now than gain.

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>>29662614
Marine is lesbian so she can't be a whore.

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rrat - hololive felt threatened by v shojo gaining 2 of their top earners. Marines was essentially a "vshojokiller", produce similar level of content so hololive doesnt get left behind.
Actually a good thing maybe. Company improve to dominate market, fans get more lewd chuuba. Eventually we will reach a level of twitch thot where chuuba just start jerking it during stream and chat should type "moans" and jerk with them. yesss.... itll be filthy member content... and there will be loli....

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>>29691873
>produce similar level of content
Which Vshojo members have anime music videos?

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>>29688477
>Marine is a lesbian
hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahaha

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>>29691873
>Eventually
Anon have you heard of projektmelody?

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>>29636578
>majority of her fans are from the US
you know they avoided a shitstorm from SJWs/woke fucks

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>>29636591
she's not the whore, she's the client

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>>29649556
me

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The talent freedom that made pekora cry because she wasnt allowed to do a project even if she puts her own money in it? That talent freedom?

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>>29692674
Yeah?

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>>29692674
At this point I think she'll go with anyone that's actually willing to love her.

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>>29652249
homoEN can't even stream as much as they want because of the 1 hour rule

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>>29699257
This exactly, fellow vshojo fan. This is also why africa is superior to any other continent, because of its murder-freedom.

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>>29635323
They left her unchecked for too long and now shes at the point where it would kill her career if she stopped being nasty

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I guess the "talent freedom" hit cover more than you guys think. That's probably why they let her do whatever she wanted imagine her leaving because there's someone out there that will let her keep her money and do whatever she wants if anything cover will give some "freedom" for their big names.

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>>29635323
Feels like a 'better to ask for forgiveness than permission' situation, when you're employee has spent thousands on a song and video there's not much you can do

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>>29653236
Agreed, Watame is probably the only member that's less sexual than Mori.

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>>29696380
yea, this was a smart choice by management because there's been a vocal crowd protesting her design since the beginning.
they've been quiet since because the content has been mostly clean, a daki would have been an issue

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>>29674087
the term comes from daki makura ・ 抱き枕
Lit translation is hugging pillow.

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>>29635323
>>29635735
two of the best models in hololive

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>>29636578
>denys

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>>29635323
Yeah, bro hololive have a lot of "talent freedom". It breeds creativity you see
>Seggs
>Ame pays for other to do her shit

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>>29635323
CB stream when?

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>>29636578
Please tell me this is just a bait

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>>29674087
...why are you here?

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>>29696380
>>29703811
>>29705748
retards....

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>>29636578
proof?
plenty of holos haven't had dakis

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>>29635323
Marine is so fucking based. She'd be my oshi if I were a JP bro

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>>29703723
Gay

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>>29696464
Explain yourself, troglodyte.

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>>29674612
>>29677358
muh sekret anime club

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>>29635323
>Marine and Noel are allowed to shower and grope each other on stream, but Pekora's stream ideas get stonewalled so hard that she has a meltdown stream where she vandalizes the Yagoo face and shoots her genmates in Minecraft
>Gura's big birthday project gets canned at the last minute, but Mori somehow keeps getting her Twitter password given back
From what I can tell middle management runs Cover and everyone else, including upper management like Yagoo, are smelly peasants that do what they're told or else. If a talent is on the same wavelength as her manager that's great, she can do whatever she wants, but for someone like Coco or Pekora that wants to experiment, or just do stuff that doesn't fit in whatever pigeonhole their manager has in mind for them it's constant frustration.

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>>29635323
Anyone who still trust Kekson, after Vshojo is cuck on the same level as Nyancuck

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>>29696380
EN has already correctly responded to SJW Twitter mobs several times now (Kiara/Mori N word, Gura character design, Mori lean tweet, and most recently Mori being a "cultural appropriating" whigger) by just ignoring them until their fruit fly tier attention span runs out. It was stonewalled because one or more EN manager personally hates the idea, just like Coco collabs before her graduation announcement.

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>>29711963
Daki is a different beast, it generally has a lewd illustration and and its function is either to be cuddle with or to be use for lewd purpose
Now imagine the shits that will be thrown by those anti lolis and antis clinging to opportunities when they know dakis with a lewd Gura illustration on it are being used by grown adults

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>>29713633
Not all daki illustrations are lewd, and iirc all the existing official dakis have been on the tame side. I'm not saying it wouldn't get the the Twitter feminist crowds' panties in a bunch, I'm saying that EN has dealt with them before and should realize how harmless and ineffectual they ultimately are. One or more SJW managers makes much more sense.