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[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278667
>>29277427
So.. Here's what I don't get. They had about $20 million in net profit for the prior year. But then still went ahead with the ipo that raised $50 million if I remember correctly.
What are they going to invest these total of 70 million in? Their net profit shows either the inability or the unwillingness to reinvest those profits into the company.
I guess any nijisanji supporter can hope for some big projects coming this year.

[Anonymous No.]

The future of EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278625
That was the right move because Uproar flopped right out of the gates and ID3 stopped the bleeding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278771
>NIJI EN

[Anonymous No.]

FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>57,593: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>50,654: Subaru (Hololive)
>38,638: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,859: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>29,844: Salome (Nijisanji)
>27,099: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>22,587: Fubuki (Hololive)
>22,167: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>21,860: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,795: Chloe (Hololive)
>19,571: Lize (Nijisanji)
>18,670: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,936: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>16,710: Shion (Hololive)
>14,491: Suisei (Hololive)
>13,803: Zotto (Nijisanji)
>13,729: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,574: Mio (Hololive)
>13,390: Watame (Hololive)
>12,270: Regis (Holostars)
>12,116: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,784: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,488: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,251: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,034: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,658: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,612: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>10,351: Towa (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278720
Uhhh, bot farms? Hello?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29276806
Niji girls getting SOLO 6k would be unthinkable anon.
Still is.
That stream is a collab, if you haven't noticed.

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>>29278656
Vox is a leech tho. He knows that his time is up. Mysta could easily destroy his ass if he tries to overlap on chink hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278720
some investors may have wanted to sell their stakes upon ipo (usually a lot of venture type investors monetize at this point). It's also not the worst way to raise working capital especially if banks may be leery of your business model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278831
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live
25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
66x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Maimoto, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

So is /MANS/ officially the 2nd fastest moving thread on /vt/ now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278667
IDW DANYA

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278771
BOTTOM BOTTOM DADDY SWITCH BOTTOM DICK DICK PENIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>29276806
>getting 6k by z and raids
ruru rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278720
who said they are investing their profit anon. Companies ultimate goal is to make money for their owners

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278882
All other Luxiem would destroy him nowadays in overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278783
ID3 and Uproar are completely unrelated, I doubt they even have 5% overlap. Holo EN and Holostars EN have extremely high overlap right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278783
Anon the EN3 is inevitable after Sana graduation and irys new model. Even if they aren't in the leak that doesn't mean they won't gonna release them after Myth anniversary. They wil come before that.

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>>29278937
Yes. NijiEN fans seeking shelter over there.

[Anonymous No.]

>doesn't lose any viewers when noir starts
>gains a few viewers when he ends
Kiaras ccv makes no sense at all

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>>29278916
>REAL JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
>14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,050 - Pekorone Mario Race
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal
22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut
23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal
24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live
25) Ren (Nijisanji) - 90,269 - Debut stream
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 57,593 - Niji Koshien practice

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Ren, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa, Ibrahim

stop being a lazy fuck and fix your shit retard

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>>29278937
>2nd
Try number one

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278971
And so do StarsEN. Hell, even Kobo would rape that pussy boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278937
If that's true, that goes to show how badly people wanted to see some new faces

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>>29278860
Anon, Selen and Pomu already got those numbers on SOLO streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>13-12 and we only have 1 guaranteed gold left
fuck, we're gonna have to rely on Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279023
>Refuse to watch Kiara
>Based old man is live
>Leaves after an hour
>Fine, I guess I’ll watch Kiara if I have to
It’s that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278656
I personally wouldn't go far enough to call Vox a leech, but he's an actual fucking Vtuber. These other people aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278667
July 1 - 25 vod views

Individual
>Kobo (Hololive) 12,997,518
>Mori (Hololive) 11,026,751
>Nijisanji English (Nijisanji) 10,656,023
>Mysta (Nijisanji) 7,294,570
>Gura (Hololive) 6,791,841
>Vox (Nijisanji) 6,153,350
>Luca (Nijisanji) 5,777,383
>Luxiem Ch (Nijisanji) 4,554,406
>Kiara (Hololive) 4,201,361
>Pomu (Nijisanji) 4,081,711
>Selen (Nijisanji) 4,017,901
>Ina (Hololive) 3,885,158
>Mumei (Hololive) 3,591,394
>Fauna (Hololive) 3,269,111
>IRyS (Hololive) 3,034,841
>Amelia (Hololive) 2,877,709
>Shu (Nijisanji) 2,841,307
>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,724,196
>Nina (Nijisanji) 2,237,046
>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,121,817
>Kronii (Hololive) 1,887,708
>Millie (Nijisanji) 1,883,172
>Ike (Nijisanji) 1,880,838
>Enna (Nijisanji) 1,750,823
>Hololive English (Hololive) 1,609,038
>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,554,062
>Bae (Hololive) 1,542,090
>Finana (Nijisanji) 1,469,627
>Elira (Nijisanji) 1,458,667
>Sana (Hololive) 1,353,942
>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 1,243,766
>Ren (Nijisanji) 1,063,171
>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,024,847
>Yugo (Nijisanji) 959,373
>Maria (Nijisanji) 912,393
>Petra (Nijisanji) 750,350
>Aster (Nijisanji) 697,379
>Reimu (Nijisanji) 606,640
>Kyo (Nijisanji) 515,450
>Scarle (Nijisanji) 294,137
>Aia (Nijisanji) 117,398

branch
>Myth 28,782,820
>Luxiem 23,947,448
>Council 11,644,245
>Noctyx 8,384,295
>LazuLight 7,010,005
>Ethyria 6,477,681
>Obsydia 6,012,017
>ILUNA 3,599,928
>Hope 3,034,841

company total
>HoloEN 43,461,906 (With official ch 45,070,944)
>Nijisanji 55,431,374 (With official ch 70,641,803)

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278390
I mean, Kobo's numbers are mostly around 10k to 20k right now, but she's apparently become "mainstream" in SEA.
Also that happened a few weeks after her debut, so Tempus has a good chance of doing a slow and steady growth (unless EN3 gets dropped in the next 2 months).

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>>29279161
you and 20 other people apparently

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>>29279128
They don't, anon. Stop gas lighting us.

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>>29278860
I remember Pomu getting 8k on a solo MGR stream

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>>29279190
Council was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279190
GO FAUNA GO
>Noctyx less than Council
Don't they stream significantly more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279128
is that with or without raids/Zs/other suspicious shit?

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>>29278860
Selen can get 6k but not very often. The rest no unless it's something special or a karaoke. But they can hit 4k fairly often, which used to be a monumental achievement for a solo stream that wasn't Selen. Now Pomu or Enna getting 4k isn't even unusual, or one of the other girls getting it with any stream that is slightly gimmicky and out of the norm. Getting 4-5-6k for a two girl collab with one of their big hitters isn't rare at all.

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>>29279161
>Fine, I guess I’ll watch Kiara if I have to
i-it's not like you like kiara or anything b-baka

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278959
It is, but if you want to grow the company to make even more profits you reinvest those profits that you get early on either to gain a dominant position in your primary field/market or to widen those what fields/markets the company tries to make a profit from. Amazon is the prime example of this, starting out as a online bookstore but transitioning to be a massive tech company and hosting supplier.
If Nijisanji wants to become the entertainment factory of the future, they will need to invest for it to happen.

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>>29278937
Isn’t 4stats still broken? How would anyone know?

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>>29279190
Why are you counting ilua but not tempus?

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This tweet says 203k but her Youtube page says she has 201k. Are they finally getting their subs culled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279023
Minimal overlap. If Vesper can keep getting similar numbers in the future in this slot, it proves EU isn't dead, they just don't like Kiara lol.

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>>29278667
Debut to 1st stream numbers (peaks from vrabi)
>>29242403

Debut to 2nd stream numbers (peaks from vrabi)
>>29242616

>>29216192 :: Tempus schedule
>>29216282 :: Iluna schedule

[Anonymous No.]

More EU streamers might actually help Kiara despite the doomposting, and anyone else who goes for this timezone a fair bit. The overlap actually caused her to incline more than she was, only declined a few hundred as Noir stalled and then inclined again as he ended. Noir got a decent chunk of KFP there but it didn't hurt Kiara's numbers. If he streamed when she was off I imagine he'd get most of them. This is without raids as well.

Maybe the EU has just lacked a real box. Kiara created her fanbase (partly pulling SEA who need to tap out), Ina has a late audience (too late for some EU). But outside that fighting for scraps doesn't really create a stable viewer base.

TL;DR - Omega needs to get over his fear of EU/NA morning. It won't be NA or JP prime time but it is likely viable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279256
numbers are numbers seethe

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>>29279176
The original “leech” they were talking about has been a vtuber for almost a year now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279225
Pomu playing MGR and Selen a couple of times during her Solo Masters in Apex.

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>>29278916
There's 3 "guaranteed golds" left for the month
> 27th ROFMAO Concert (Niji)
> 28th Mayuzumi Graduation (Niji)
> 30th Marine Birthday 3D Live (Holo)
That will put the rankings at 14 each. The rest are up in the air.
> 29th Leos 3D vs Holo Mahjong tourney
> 30th Nui Koshien vs whatever Pekora does

This month's end will have some insane horseraces. Every single race (and slip) will be important.
GET FUCKING HYPE

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279214
Look at Kobo's VODs. Her CCV is irrelevant when she shits out 200-300k VODs on everything.
Also, fastest subgrowth in Hololive since Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279176
Which is bad cause Vox actually carries with him all the bad things about NijiEN like fujos and the last thing Stars needs are these animals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279327
Are you confusing Caitlyn Myers and AmaLee

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>>29279190
Man Mumei and Fauna have piss weak VoD games. I’m pretty sure even if you removed Music completely Moris VoD views would still beat them.

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>>29278937
hlgg making Holostar talk forbidden created that. It's history repeating itself with the original hlg making EN talk taboo. I see a lot of fujos setting up shop in that Tempus thread, so it's for the best that they got exiled early, since even as a vocal minority they really shit up everything, and have more or less ruined the Niji EN thread.

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>>29279128
Why do you come into these threads and blatantly lie? Do you really think we're as retarded as your kind?

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>>29279256
It was a raid

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>>29279288
By the speed they pump out new threads

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>>29279395
Nijichads coming with the comeback baby.

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>>29279299
It's real. Pretty suspicious considering the aggressive sub culling on new accounts was gone.

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>>29279325
>Die Calliope
Rude

[Anonymous No.]

Is it over for holo? 16-14?

[Anonymous No.]

Thoughts #bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278720
If a company needs money, private sale of equity is always the actual better option as they then will have the investor as a stakeholder that can help them in the long run.
Public listing option is only chosen when you can't actually find a private investor at the value you want or the existing shareholders have been bugging you to go public because they need to cash out by sometime next year

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>>29279439
Her vtuber account is in her Twitter description

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279446
Fauna also streamed significantly less this month, to be fair, due to her getting sick for near a fucking week after coming back from the of collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279486
https://vrabi.net/video/zTTaG40AWeE

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279506
Raids are great to increase the average views of a stream.

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>>29279246
It's hilarious because all the Council chuubas have been mentally broken by their failure and literally cope by saying they "don't care about viewership, they just want to foster a good community" and then do everything in their power to destroy that community by not streaming or communicating or organizing events/projects

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279299
Nah their internal stats are ahead of what the public sees. There probably is some very minor cull of junk accounts but it's not the indiscriminate and systematic slashing we saw back with Council and Holo X.

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>>29279395
It's gonna end at 14-15 on the 31st and the only one holding the line would be Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279190
>Gura only streamed 7 times on July thanks to Omega.
>Still high
Shark is to strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279542
>Niji"chads" throws everything they have into the fray, but can barely compete with one rabbit

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279583
In German it means "The"

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279610
Damn that's old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278667
>Final /news/ roundup for 26-07-2022
>>29267909

>Recent clip numbers
>>29251048
>>29251104
>>29248531
>>29248579

[Anonymous No.]

2nd ASMR vod to 1mil.
3rd Overall including her debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278937
On top of what other people say the lack of streaming and the increased number of falseflagging and baiting has caused people to seek refuge elsewhere also.

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>>29279658
>ahead by 2k
I've seen stream until X subs with sub counter and they don't differ that much

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>>29279091
Hlgg is still the fastest over an entire 24 hour cycle, /MANS/ can just overtake it for brief periods when Tempus is streaming.

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>>29279309
He already dropped 3k from his last zatsu at this hour 3 days after debute and got better numbers during burger hours

[Anonymous No.]

It's kind of crazy how much of a flop the new NijiEN wave is. How did they fuck up so badly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279741
vox don't look...

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>>29279486
Most of Pomu and selen's streams are gimmicks or buffs with a fresh salt of Minecraft every week or horror.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279610
Please delete. I don’t like seeing korosan sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279486
Newfag-chama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279395
> 29th Leos 3D vs Holo Mahjong tourney
This won't be close. Easy 100k+ for Leos.

[Anonymous No.]

>schizo is back to samefagging again

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279686
>thanks to Omega
RORU RUMAO
She cancelled 1 stream that she could have just moved by a few hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279309
Most euros I know are watching late JP like Flare and Watame. They don't give a damn about chicken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
Quit doomposting and give em a few weeks first.
Same for all the people hyping up Tempus, everyone needs to CALM THE FUCK DOWN and give the numbers time to stabilize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279741
now check noeru

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279741
It'll be a while for another one to hit 1m but they're all slowly climbing up. A lot of her newer ones are hitting harder than the older ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279633
Yeah that happened one time. It's like saying Kaela hits 8k because she hit 8k once. Pomu is a 2-4k streamer now. Which is a big improvement, but don't bullshit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
NijiEN dabbling on politics is a huge mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279610
I hate EVERY SINGLE THING about this, this is making me seethe so fucking much
I will now shit on nijiCN

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279610
What's even coming out of Aqua's mouth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279946
Boba Tea

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
They're done literally one stream lol.
At least wait for the end of week to draw some conclusions.
>Aster, Kyo, and Aia all overlapping on the 2nd streams
lmao good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279894
This isn't a fucking competition. Of course Noel has a lot more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279894
That’s like using Suisei for Music. It isn’t a fair comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279849
>cancelled
I prefer watch her in her hour than very late retardchama.
Also take you meds zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279786
That's because they've both put effort into becoming good streamers unlike some of the other girls who think it's ok to just do the same boring shit over and over. Finana being the ultimate expression of this issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
They ironically prioritized numbers over actual demonstrable skill and talent during the audition process.

[Anonymous No.]

Why Tempus debut buff isn't as strong as Council

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
NijiEN likes to play with fire because it raises the hot balloon faster. CN market, lgtb, pol and now religion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278860
Why are we acting like the collab was 6k, when it was only cause of a Z?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279884

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280098
They are holostars...

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280106
>we
dont include me on that

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279914
The original comment was NijiEN girls hitting 6k on a solo stream was unthinkable before and they've done it a few times.
Everyone knows they're not 6k streamers, but it doesn't change that the statement is factual.

You can say "Kaela getting 8k solo was unthinkable before" too because it was kinda unthinkable until a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279884
>Quit doomposting and give em a few weeks first.
Noctyx had a stronger start and look where the fuck they are now. It's not a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279766
Its too early so we can't say they are all failures yet, I'm not expecting much though.

The scouts seemed to favour numbers, but mostly subs over everything else. Its not the worst strategy, they aren't ill fitting with what EN has done so far. But it does result in getting those with a lot of dead subs who might not be the explosion you are looking for. In comparison Tempus seemed to favour those will a drive and something they wanted to pursue. Giving them that break they needed. Overall though I could see them having fairly similar numbers by the end of it both with a breakout star.

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>>29279894
I mean Noel is literally the undisputed ASMR queen. Patra also BTFOs Fauna. Her ASMR is OK but not great, still queen of the small EN chuuba ASMR pond though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279786
These NijiEN girls just copy Holo meta that's why they can never succeed.
Vspo actually made their own that's why they have now topped Nijisanji in mean CCV.

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>>29280098
Their still Holostars so expecting them to pull Council debut numbers right out the gate is unrealistic. Keep in mind that this is the highest number debut a HoloStars gen has had.

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>>29280098
They are homos, but they have room to grow unlike council

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>>29279795
show graph and flat nipple-less chest.

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>>29280098
Who says it isn't? Scale it according to debut peak and let me know the results. 90k debut vs 35k would mean a 7k Tempus stream should be about a 20k Council stream. How long did Council get 20k solo streams post-debut?

[Anonymous No.]

StarsEN and NijiEN6 1 month after debut median peak prediction
>10k
None

>7k - 10k
Magni, Noir, Ren

>5k - 7k
Axel, Scarle, Kyo, Aster

>3k-5k
Regis, Marie

>less than 3k
Juice girl

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>>29279908
>A lot of her newer ones are hitting harder than the older ones.
She improved and keeps improving. Her old ones have lots of background noise, her settings made her voice "pop" a lot and other small things. She fixed most of it and I enjoy her new asmr vods a lot, I just wish she would stop saying ara ara to be honest.

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>>29279884
41% yourself, troon.

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>>29279884
In other words.
Wait for the numbers to be in favor of Iluna and agaist Tempus and we will start the number discussion.

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>>29280098
Proportionally it is. They just have smaller overall audience to grab on.

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>>29280166
>>29279914
>>29279633
those are gimmick streams in which people came because of the game/event rather than the streamer herself, hence why they cant repeat the numbers on normal content. Now shut the fuck up already

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>>29268291
Anon... I...

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>>29278394
You missed Pomu at 10.7%
>>29279325
Looking for interesting overlaps, again Mumei has the highest overlap which makes me think the femhooman theory might have some merit to it.
Fulgur has a surprisingly high overlap this time, he jumped over Vox and Luca to have the biggest Niji male overlap. Maybe it's because they're both comfy chatters (from what I've heard, I've never actually watched Fu-chan)

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>>29279658
I have never seen internal stats being ahead by 2k for any sub milestone endurance.

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>>29280166
Umm no. We are talking about averages here. Any Holo could easily reach 40k on planned events but people don't brag about it.

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>>29278831

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>>29280315
none of them will have a 7k-10k median

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>>29280315
to high, lower your expectations overall.

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>>29279610
Kill yourself.

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>>29280215
The schedules for some of them do not bode well in the long run. Scarle's game choice is basically radioactive for numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

What if Vesper's EU zatsus normalize at 4-5k? No one believes it's even possible, but what if it DOES happen?

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>>29280315
>Scarle that high
You're actually mentally ill

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>>29280215
They're looking for subs in things that are barely applicable to vtubing or streaming, which is a risky strat. The skills don't necessarily translate.

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>>29280461
this will drag the entire wave down. just wait until xhe tries to arrange a full wave collab to talk about these subjects.

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>>29280098
They’re Stars

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>>29280464
That's already doubles NijiEN females average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280411
>>29280420
It's a prediction nigger
screen cap it and you'll have my balls if I'm proven to be inaccurate next month

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>>29280408
stop moving the goalpost >>29278860
>>29279128

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>>29280464
I would be happy, it would show that it's not a totally dead market.

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>>29280315
Drop everyone one tier. 3 7-10k streamers lmao, none of them are making that

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>>29280315
Lower those expectations a lot.

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>>29280408
Cool but that wasn't the original comment. People are arguing that it's impossible for NijiEN girls to get 6k on a solo stream.
No one mentioned Holos until you did.

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>>29280541
It's a bad prediction nigger
say goodbye to those balls

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>>29280525
I unironically believe this, she seems like one of those who just have to force everyone around her to change to fit her ideology with how open she is about it.

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>>29280098
Holostars is considered a group different than Hololive.
They share viewrship, but I would say only 1/4 of HololiveEN is interested in HolostarsEN

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>>29280551
Like the anons said before, those streams were due to raids and youtube fuckery.

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>>29280315
You're too high on all the girls, any of them would be lucky to average 3k in a month. I don't think anyone will be above 7k. Ren and the three guys who aren't Regis can maybe stay above 5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>that one nijimidget getting uppity and acting like his girls are impressive

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>>29280627
We've already had people lose their genitals towards Tempus doing way better than expected so I think it's at least a possibility they'll probably do better than we initially think I'm the future.

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>>29280098
Post Council debut buff then

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>>29280098
their debuts werent as strong in the first place

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>>29280254
Every single Tempus stream is basically taking the spot of "one of the most watched stars streams". It's time we stopped larping that these dudes and starsJP fans are connected, they clearly draw a lot of audience from HoloEN and NijiEN, but very little from StarsJP. And no this wasn't the case for Myth, which basically gathered up all the EOPs already watching hololiveJP and then some.

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>>29280315
You need to lower all your predictions by at least 2-3k.
It's not looking like Aster and Kyo are even going to get 7k on their first game streams coming up today.

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>>29280315
>Magni, Noir
Thise two already landed in 7k-10k range. What makes you think they can keep it?

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>>29280464
It doesn't sound that unlikely. Unless he just runs out of stuff to talk about and people get bored and would rather watch Kiara or IDs.

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>>29280618
No, it's not. It's this >>29276806
EN girls have stagnated. The high numbers they get were due to raids and youtube shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.]

Watame should play more Minecraft.

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>>29280839
This is untrue.

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>>29279128
Nijikeks only know how to lie. That or they gaslit themselves.

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>>29280875
sanner :(

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>>29280713
They have inclined, even without Zs and raids. Its hard not too when you branch giga explodes, even if it explodes with a different audience. But step two of pointing out the recline is always
>as you can see our stats are up by 1k we are taking over the industry
to nijis

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>>29279161
Yeah thats me. Loved listening to gramps talk and since I'm already in the mood for zatsudans then might as well listen to the chicken

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>>29279766
>be company
>hire western woke roasties for HR for the new branch
>this HR hires more people aligned to the LGTVIH ideas (management, director, audition)
>these hires are in charge of filtering the applications
>they filter out anyone under 100k subs to make things easier. They also start asking dumb shit that has nothing to do with the job and crossing out anyone who's not progressive enough
And that's how you end up with wave 6. There's no way they are the 6 most talented candidates among the hundreds or thousands of people who applied to their auditions, when you literally have 3views like Nowa and Axel getting into holostars

[Anonymous No.]

thread is way too retarded for this hour

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>>29280785
I would imagine it's more complicated than that.

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>>29280668
I think the debut numbers prove that only a portion of the fanbase really cares about them.

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>>29280839
People harped on him for saying 6k on a collab is impressive so he moved to saying they got 6k on solo streams before too, and then people said that was impossible.
Pomu's 8k on MGR and Selen getting 6k grinding to master both have nothing to do with raids or youtube bugs.

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>hlgg
>217 IPs
>MANS
>277 IPs

Damn

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>>29280785
Maybe 20% of their viewers are from StarsJP. The rest are both new and from the Holobox itself. Just looking at the comments and chat it's people watching them as a breath of fresh air and some new faces and names.

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>>29280464
With dwarf fortress? That’s a debuff game but I’ll be amazed if he get that number in dwarf fortress

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>>29278916
Just IMAGINE niji somehow not winning this month

[Anonymous No.]

hey how was Salome resident evil 7 dlc stream? over 40k-50k again?

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>>29280912
I'm suprised that Regis is in stars instead NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>holoen reclines
>nijien growth
all I see is midget fighting for scrap in a dying market

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>>29281074
anon, sit down.

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>>29281008
>Maybe 20% of their viewers are from StarsJP.
20% of StarsJP audience is like 100 people. Most of them average 500 viewers.

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>>29280215
>In comparison Tempus seemed to favour those will a drive and something they wanted to pursue
Hope the EN recruiters learned a lesson for EN3 with this
Despite Council doing decent nowadays, hiring a far worse Ina, two kids busy with college, and a depressed menhera was...questionable, to say the least (Fauna seems to be the only really smart hire, and I don't even watch her)

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>>29281076
shut up he redeemed himself. he dropped the waah and has good chemistry with all of the boys, his zelda streams are good too. temma vibes

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>>29281076
Not 100k subs

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>>29280315
Switch Axel and Regis. I think Regis will do better once he stops playing debuff games.

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>>29281143
Basically stop hiring people who have other obligations.

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>>29278916
>Niji Koshien practice from July 9 to August
Damn, these Koshien arc sure inflates Nijis numbers a lot. Better hope they can at least keep a portion of these tourists viewers.

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>>29281143
One of those two college students don't let shit bog her down. Mumei, despite all the shit she's gone through, would still fucking stream and show up and only took 1 real extended break that wasn't related to an off collab.

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>>29281025
Read nigga READ.

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>>29281074
Better than yesterday got 34k

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>>29281182
he actually dropped the wah? now all that's left is that he uses a more normal voice and he might have a shot yet.

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>>29278916
>>29279055
God I hope niji wins thanks to Ibrahim's Z bullshit, it would be great.

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>>29281197
That's NijiEN tho lmao

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN peaked at Luxiem much like HoloEN did with Myth.
Iluna is not a failure in vtuber standards, but since NijiEN grew their fanbase Iluna is underperforming, making them a continuous downward trend since Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

Rio's birthday stream.

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>>29281143
Sana was dead on arrival dude, and she was actually just REALLY unlucky. She would've actually turned out to be Kaela tier if she wasn't so fucking unlucky.

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>>29281182
glad he dropped it but still his voice tone filters me hard

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>>29280798
Magni is a bit more in question but Noir has the Ina appeal in that he's very easy to listen to and just have him playing in the background. Strong zatsudan tubers have extremely dedicated watchers since they can practically be treated as a radio station.

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>>29280798
Graphs reading, they both have engaged viewers with relatively high retention rates, also debut buffs aren't that large for new branches (with the exception of HoloEN), just look at holoID1, and NijiEN1.

As for the NijiEN chuubas, they'd have endless collabs, Zs, and raid abuses to net those ccv I predicted. I did say median of peaks and have taken those into account.

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>>29281197
Yeah not like two of Myth biggest successes (Ina and Mori) had other obligations. A lot of talented people have other obligations. Just hiring no-lifers isn't the key to success.

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>>29281076
>I'm suprised that Regis is in stars instead NijiEN
I could say this about Magni, if you've known anything about him before he joined Holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281302
HoloStars building a box

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>>29280215
>Its not the worst strategy
It's terrible strategy.
It's fucking wave 6, they don't need people with big sub count to try to promote a new branch, they already have a sizeable fanbase to give exposure to the new debuts. Hiring 5-6 retards that can't sing, can't play games or be entertaining just because they have lots of dead subs is a terrible idea, specially when other better candidates didn't get a change due to their low sub counts

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>>29281404
I mean Vesper is basically Fulgur with less weird tastes and Axel is a himbo just like Luca.
They're not THAT different.
Regis is at least keeping up with kayfabe whereas all the other boys basically dropped it already NijiEN-style.

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>>29281341
Why the fuck would we look at NijiEN for holo debut buffs, and are serious about HoloID one? They're from the goddamn jurrasic era of hololive.

These lads are getting excellent stream engagement because the stupid "1 hour stream means you leave them wanting more during debut" tactic is working.

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>>29281302
a seperate box is forming, nice

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>>29281302
how this graph works?

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>>29279766
They filtered out anyone that wasn't above 100k. The problem is that 100k is still in the shitter nutjob range (in fact that's where a lot of notable lolcows are typically at) while also tossing out possible diamonds in the rough of the sea of 3 and 2 views. Fucking Noir would have gotten rejected just by virtue of him being too small.

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>>29280329
Anon, I'm just asking you to be a bit more level-headed abouy numbers around debuts is all, they're volatile and prone to change. I frankly can't stand wave 6, but it's still better to wait and see before proclaiming them doomed.

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>>29281526
A separate box of 2000 people wow. It's too small to even care about man.

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>Aster's waiting room only has a bit more than Elira's Xth Xenoblade 2 stream waiting room

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>>29281580
Axel too, Regis wasn't too well know before and Magni would have been accepted immediately considering the people that entered the Niji wave

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>>29281504
Vesper doesn't have the cockiness "kayfabe" that shot Fungus in the foot early on and he has the ojisan appeal which is proving to be surprisingly effective.

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>>29281648
He'll be overlapping with Kyo's first game stream (pokemon so debuff) and Aia's first game stream (Getting over it, but she's already DOA)
It's going to be ugly for all 3. NijiEN fans really don't like watching pokemon, it wrecks Luca and Mysta's numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280224
Imagine an ASMR collab between Noel and Patra

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>>29281580
>Fucking Noir would have gotten rejected just by virtue of him being too small.
I think i actually saw some people being completely sure that he would join NijiEN when he graduated, glad to see that they were wrong about that.

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>>29281402
Those are more exceptions to the rule, and I figure it's more that Cover got lucky than smart when hiring them
Mori is unquestionably am ambitious workaholic
Ina is a nearly unrivaled in how "efficient' she works (draws really fast AND well) while still being fairly engaging, so should would always be able to juggle her RM and holo activities better than Sana
And even then, both have had stress-related breakdowns (Mori saying stupid shit, Ina having to take a break)

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>>29281504
Fungus is a dickhole while Vesper is suffocatingly wholesome, they’re nothing alike you retard.

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>>29279256
Surprisingly if we filter by 5k there haven't been that many raided peaks.

I made a list since Pomu and Selen seem to be the most discussed here among Nijifemales -

All of Pomu's solo streams this year with >5k CCV
Excludes celebration streams and collabs.

Real 5ks
> 04-07 : MGS4 (92ohOSUoy8g) : 3335 average; 5752 peak
> 18-06 : Unarchived Karaoke on 18th (KFxtHIBWw80) : 5675 avg; 6093 peak
> 04-06 : VR Karaoke (-EO-0NLLLoI) : 5206 avg; 5662 peak
> 23-05 : Tomodachi Life (eKLnrjXDoMw) : 4609 avg; 5236 peak
> 07-05 : Unarchived Disney Karaoke(r2qkhnzJE1g) : 6768 avg; 7230 peak
> 15-04 : Unarchived Karaoke (o0vr7U_VOV4) : 7311 avg; 7940 peak
> 07-02 : MGR:Revengeance #2 (zTTaG40AWeE) : 2835 avg; 8699 peak
> 02-02 : MGR:Revengeance #1 (QEcugV3VtMA) : 3766 avg; 5281 peak

Raided 5ks
> 02-07 : Nijifes Diorama (NK7b5K2n7ks) : 1404 avg; 6371 peak

All of Selen's solo streams this year with >5k CCV
Excludes celebration streams and collabs.

Real 5ks
> 04-07 : Minecraft (NSKFNxq835w) : 4588 avg; 5415 peak
> 29-06 : Overwatch (eRwc7LgzLbE) : 3950 avg; 5462 peak
> 16-06 : Apex (qFv0b1yaf8g) : 4804 avg; 6696 peak (*this had a raid, but the non-raid peak is >5k)
> 02-06 : Unarchived Karaoke rebroadcast (2lVlbMt8Dxw) : 8096 avg, 10002 peak (Z)
> 25-05 : NijiEN tier list (TLNMsOMOLMk) : 6072 avg; 7079 peak
> 27-04 : Overwatch 2 (cm1prwjMz6c) : 4352 avg; 5291 peak
> 13-04 : Unarchived EN karaoke (6tBVp6aOtcA) : 12808 avg; 13704 peak
> 29-03 : Apex Solo (SJfajdEmDUw) : 4005 avg; 5653 peak
> 13-02 : Try not to laugh (ob8cCJexiLM) : 6072 avg; 7308 peak
> 26-01 : Soft Selen (JdQK2wlIgI8) : 3237; 5905 peak

Raided 5ks
> 24-07 : OWL finals (3Myy-OS6Q1Q) : 3422 avg; 10816 peak

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280912
From their streams so far, the only overt leftist/progressive in the group is Aia. The other five keep their political shit to themselves.
>but pre-debut twitter
NijiEN pre-debut tweets are always super garbage and not representative of what they'll be streaming. Finana never used a diarrhea SFX after debuting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281504
Vesper is fulgur? In what way, please elaborate I didn't see much of fulgur besides the first few streams B4 dropping him

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281509
It does, and it'd pay well for them when they can maintain their 7k+ average well after 1 month, while picking up another 1-2k viewers along the month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281504
I get bad vibes from Tempus shittalking the theatrics after voluntarily applying for the company known for employing theatrics. Like at least see if you can incorporate something from your character and theming into your content and style of presentation instead of acting like you're still an indie.

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>>29281770
>Ina having to take a break)
She's done one once a year and sitll comes back stress to the high heavens to the point where I don't even know why the fuck she takes a break. It's actually infuriating. There was like 2 weeks after the first off collab where she seemed actually refreshed and then she went back to being weird and dodgy.

[Anonymous No.]

Here, to put in context how absurd Tempus numbers are right now, here is the
> top 20 highest attended streams for Holostars (JP + EN)

Here it is
>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id
>43574 :: 2022-07-23 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】TIME FOR A HANDS ON APPROACH #Dezmond_Debut #holoTEMPUS (Magni Dezmond) :: H-8u6VPH92k
>40690 :: 2022-07-23 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】 Here to save the world! #Altare_Debut #holoTEMPUS (Regis Altare) :: 9m2Gzca26I8
>35649 :: 2022-07-24 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】Vesper Noir at your service #Vesper_Debut #holoTEMPUS (Noir Vesper) :: SBQtnouQqgY
>34411 :: 2022-07-24 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】WASSSUPPPP ITS DEBUT TIMEEEEE 8) #Syrios_Debut #holoTEMPUS (Axel Syrios) :: JRTOfhbdbn0
>32614 :: 2022-07-24 :: 【FIRST COLLAB】TEMPUS ASSEMBLES! #TEMParty #holoTEMPUS (Magni Dezmond) :: vKUAtIT1O9s
>21877 :: 2022-03-19 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY1】「わちゃスタ」出張版『ホロスターズYAGOO 本音対談!』 (Holostars Official) :: hG9EjmQhliY
>18118 :: 2022-03-20 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY2】「わちゃスタ」出張版『一致団結!プレッシャーホロスターズ!』 (Holostars Official) :: zRDDJDv3Dqk
>17039 :: 2021-03-10 :: 【#夕刻ロベル3D】夕刻ロベル3Dお披露目配信!! (Yukoku Roberu) :: c4OSDfUJ0yk
>15075 :: 2021-03-26 :: 【 #深夜男子UNO 】深夜にUNOをするとこうなる (Rikka) :: CKxX-gl842Q
>14926 :: 2021-07-10 :: 【#影山シエン3D】お前達、3Dお披露目開始だ!!!!!! (Kageyama Shien) :: FUEHGqqOTFk
>14623 :: 2021-12-07 :: 『#アステルレダ3D』未来へ、One Two Shine / ホロスターズ (Astel Leda) :: qNRR8cyGMaY
>14072 :: 2022-07-25 :: Chat with me while I draw! (Magni Dezmond) :: eVJtFlmgL3k
>12286 :: 2022-07-26 :: 【TEMPUS COLLAB】 Answering the Universe's HARDEST Questions... WITH THE BOYS!!! (Regis Altare) :: mBNW0G04Lz4
>12155 :: 2022-07-25 :: 【Escape Simulator】My INT ain't actually that bad (Axel Syrios) :: rP1n_YcHX7E
>11283 :: 2021-07-24 :: 【#荒咬オウガ3D】背中で語る男の3Dお披露目 (Aragami Oga) :: Hw7WqfV7H0c
>11023 :: 2022-07-25 :: 【 Just Chatting 】 Tournament of Dadly Kings #holoTEMPUS (Noir Vesper) :: meC7cDF1urI
>10704 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】妖の万屋...現る!!!!夜十神封魔 (Yatogami Fuma) :: pfMyfFGBPoc
>10534 :: 2022-07-25 :: 【 Just Chatting 】 Report in what's good? (Noir Vesper) :: qbinZxaSsdY
>10506 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】あなたのお時間、頂きに参上します...羽継烏有 (Utsugi Uyu) :: YNi-2CJ6E6Y
>9371 :: 2021-10-30 :: 【#奏手イヅル3D】お披露目ミニライブ‼ (Kanade Izuru) :: ruE9HQ6NgIA

MAg debut DOUBLED the prev branch record, which belonged to Yagoo showing up on the pre HoloExpo show at the Holostars official channel.
Out of that top 20, 10 streams now belong to Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280785
They do gather up StarsJP EOPs but the problem is relative to their total audience there just aren't as many Stars fans as people moving from other English-language streamers. Myth didn't have other EN streamers to box viewers to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281886
lets go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281830
They're just people who can ramble on about their interests for hours and hours without running out of topics.
The difference is Vesper is just kinda boomer whereas Fulgur is into weirder shit like fanfic and chinese BL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281820
ok nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281873
I mean Council pretty much did the same, no? Outside of the retarded "Council meetings" when do they usually talk about their lore like, at all? They all pretty much dropped it a week in. Even in Myth only Kiara really sticks with her retarded lore and it was mostly self made, not one forced on her by omegay

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279894
now check Patra

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281957
> the only overt leftist/progressive in the group is Aia
> Posts screenshot of Aia

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281001
There's a few Nijifags who would never watch the Holo girls but are willing to watch Stars. Add /jp/ autists who hate EN and people who just fell out of Hololive because they got bored and that probably makes up the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Gura Rust today. Numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281957
anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282081
kek

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
HUGE NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281808
Really puts it in perspective the difference between companies when any HoloEN stream under 5k gets called a complete disaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281957
>>29282027
Kek
You guys really need to calm down

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Ycp5JRR88
CRIPPLE GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281967
Fauna still mentions nature every stream, Mumei mentions civilization often, Kronii mentions time very often, and Bae still acts like a rat a lot.
I'm not even going to mention Sana because after almost a year she's still relying on "Sana is BEEG" as a crutch because she doesn't have anything else to go off of. She's all lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282114
>>29282126
eh, 20k+ but nobody else is going to play at this time so no interactions

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282114
>>29282126
easy 20k-30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281886
I wonder if EN will greatly increase the number of tourists at JP events. Concerts, 3D, etc. I don't know if there will be much of an effect on regular JP streams, obviously some effect but language really is a massive filter. But events, those usually draw from the entire base, I think those will benefit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282148
Oh god Gura playing Rust, this is definitely going to get 30k at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282126
>>29282148
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282224
>but nobody else is going to play at this time so no interactions
There's like an 80% chance Mumei joins.

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>>29282065
and this is why its good to keep on pumping new gens despite what everyone says about supporting those who get left behind like niji flops or akiroze roboco mel etc.
new shiny thing is good for brnad loyalty and retention.
big reaso nwhile nijiEN is able to fight for market share with HoloEN because cover is so fucking SLOW, not even considering the fact that the holo EN aren't even attempting to build anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279813
> doubting the holobox effect

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281878
Doesn't help Sana graduating probably shot her mood completely and put her stress through the roof. Again.
Like consider the timeline, between Sana's bday and her announcing her graduation, she definitely talked to Ina about it, and it likely completely ruined Ina's recharge from her break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282114
From description, some more girls might show up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282224
The description says "playing with..." She's not playing alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281770
All of them have, regardless of their background, except for Fauna. It's the nature of the job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282292

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282148
>playing with....
Come on Fauna, help a shark out. You don't have a schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>kiara teasing a small surprise at crunchyroll expo
probably not EN3, but what could it be

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281957
Im getting sick of these Lgbt faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281808
Good thing to clear up, thank you anon. I will say I'm worried about how a good portion of this thread will bend themselves out of shape to avoid even the implication that NijiEN isn't utterly failing. Look, they're still not at the level of HoloEN and I don't see Niji catching them anytime soon but to even deny the obvious reality that there's been an incline is absurd

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281193
Maybe when he starts singing and doing ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282114
Holoserver?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282292
>big reaso nwhile nijiEN is able to fight for market share with HoloEN
they're competing in different markets, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281967
Council's themes are really bad because they are abstractions that don't invoke character, Tempus' themes are much more like roles since they are references to fictional archetypes and real professions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282232
when they start collabing hopefully it will help them out

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282224
90% chance she's going to get up to shenanigans with Mooms, given what happened with Ark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282424
EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282319
If Ame still decides to do her Apex/Neon White and overlap with Gura rust, she deserves 2k viewers today.
Kronii already deserves to be fucked for being dumb enough to continue streaming Kirby, but Ame is at least historically flexible with her scheduling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282148
>Kronii playing Kirby's Dreamland again at the same time
>Baelz playing fucking CAT GAME AGAIN at the same time
They're fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282292
Pumping new gens isn't bad per say it's just an absolutely terrible idea if you do it so frequently that you end up skimping on quality control and end up 3 flops in a row (Ridonkulous, Voltacation, Iluna).

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282500
Just have Kronii, Mumei, Ame and Gura for the max buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282195
Sana is interested in space topics. Universe Sanbox is one of her signature games. Also, James Webb telescope was the topic of her recent Twitter space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281001
IPS are the easiest thing in the world to change to let you shitpost faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282124
that's why you never ever believe doomposters, especially nijinigger doomposters.
they will blatantly lie and try to inflate themselves as much as they can to "pwn" hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29279894
>now check noeru
>>29282020
>now check Patra
Two absolute ASMR monsters, the top of their class.

And the best part is that this is the FUCKING FREE SAMPLE, with both making hundreds of thousands with their paid *in character* products, plus Noel making triple that with her *off brand* product

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1552009145406177282

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>>29282224
This is the stream Mumei was going to do yesterday before Gura ditched her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282126
>>29282148
JP or EN server?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282424
New original

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282568
It is also just overall terrible for the individual talent, but i'm sure the Entertainment Factory doesn't really worry about that part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282232
Being in the English ticket section of HoloFes was eye-opening. Very busy chat even if you couldn't see the number. And that was people paying $50-$80. Before they added EN most of those people would never had went to a paywalled event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282148
its hilarious how much of a JP Leech she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282665
AFAIK there's only a single server

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282665
there's only one rust server, it's the same for all (female) branches

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282424
Outfit announcements maybe? It's about time for Council to get a non NY outfit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282665
EN, they made their own server that will die in a week because not enough people will play in it and knowing the HoloEN girls, they won't even kill each other in a game meant for griefing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282606
Ame won't change her schedule although Kronii might.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282769
Why would Kiara care about Council outfits?

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>>29282355
>except for Fauna.
It's because she actually takes breaks. Every other week she takes 2 days off, and every so often she takes 4 days off while leaving pre-recorded shit for her fans.

>>29282500
>>29282606
Kronii and Bae have a stream. Mori has a later stream BUT whether she'll wake up for this or not is a toss up but she's technically an option. Fauna has shown interest in playing Rust and has no schedule so she's an option. Mumei said she has stuff to do today and if those stuff got done she'd do a singing practice stream so she's a bit of a toss up. I'm not sure what the fuck Ame is doing nowadays so maybe she'll join? IRyS it's too early for. Ina has a stream.
>Kiara

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>>29282429
> Nijinigs blatantly lie about numbers
> Niji use the raid function heavily, inflating peaks
> Luxiem graphs in general
> The Z

It's just the unfortunate reality that in the current environment, the general perception would be that their incline is inflated. It's really not.

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>>29282722
>>29282728
Didn't Mori say she was setting up a Rust server for EN?
ID playing on the JP server is nothing new, seeing as they did that in Ark too. But in that one Ark stream EN did, they didn't play on the JP server either.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok so Vesp is definitely /here/ he is an old /v/ fag for sure
what about the other dudes?

[Anonymous No.]

Mag has over taken the wahfaggot as most subbed HomoEN
With Blue You Lose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282124
This.
When a HoloEN gets low numbers they are a failing, what happened?
When NijiEN gets low numbers they are growing, just you wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
Nowa oji will catch up soon as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
MAGDOMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282886
>Didn't Mori say she was setting up a Rust server for EN?
No that was way before the Holo server was made and just after Towa got refused to play on the public server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
Even magging his genmates.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that one of the Iluna twinks has brain damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
Blue started first and will end last.
Blue is a debuff for Stars confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934

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>>29282886
No. Way back before there was any Rust server she said she tried to set up a Holoserver herself and couldn’t do it so management was taking care of it. No mention of being an EN only server.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think COVER was realistically expecting from Tempus? Do you think they were predicting something more similar to JP Stars views, or Niji homo views?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283040
Yes. Unironically. Unless he faked the image he posted on his instagram.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282835
It's also been over half a year since the last myth outfits, Kiara's 1 million wish withstanding, so i could see them announcing some aswell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283040
>one
all of them have

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282958
Different expectations.
HoloEN started sky high and some of fell down to Earth. NijiEN started from nothing so anything is something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283040
It's not brain damage like "I got hit by a rock" it's a neurological disorder he's had brain surgery to try and correct.

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>>29282887
What happens every time is someone posting "look Selen is getting 4k, huh nice" then ten sec after there is. "yeah she is actually inclining more than ANYONE she is getting 10k every stream and is basically bigger than Gura" and then 300 posts of retarded tribalwar ensues

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
Definitely not Niji homo

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
they thought, better be in the homo market than not being in it at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283040
They all have brain damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
>Niji homo views
Noctyx level maybe. I'm sure no one was expecting Luxiem level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29280464
Those are extremely good numbers for zatsu streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283147
No one even talks about Selen anymore, what meds are you on?
There's been 3 waves since that are more worthy of shitposting with than Selen. You stuck in 2021?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
if they supposedly thought Myth was going to be ID pre-moona leeching peko tier then I imagine they already have been more successful than COVERs wildest dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
Probably what the Niji EN girls get. 10-15k debut and 2-4k stream average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282958
It is relative is it not?
If Pekora gets 15k her next stream that would be awful, but if Sora gets 15k her next stream that is great
You can post Sora 15k without 40 posts not shitting on her for not getting 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283147
Maybe chumbuds shouldn't reply to everything that even slightly shows that Gura has reclined from her peak and is still reclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283277
Yea but you can also post 15k Sora without people replying out of nowhere that Pekora is washed up and Sora will be the next big Vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29281820
They literally have a tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283313
you mean like your bait right here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282636
Gura is streaming!? and a buff game too!? kek has she finally noticed that she's reclining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
It's amazing how quick people have got over his face being weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282958
People who entered vtubing during the height of Myth use that as a baseline when it was covid-fueled and not sustainable, and now they doompost because in their eyes it's now dying

[Anonymous No.]

Starting to see a lot of people think they'll announce EN3 at the Crunchyroll expo based on the amount of guests/Hololive fans they want to be there.
Part of me wants it to happen since it would wipe Iluna off the map permanently, but it would also hit Tempus hard and I like the boys....
I don't think it would actually happen but still considering the "what if" scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282934
Noir talked to Axel about what games to play for 1 hr slot debut month i feel like Regis really needed that talk because Zelda is not doing him favors

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283402
I mean, people shouldn't be biting bait if you get upset about retarded shitposting.
Anyone retarded enough to bite on "Pekora is washed up and Sora will be the next big Vtuber." shouldn't be here.

[Anonymous No.]

To give an idea on why recruiting 100k+ YouTubers exclusively is not a full proof screening plan here's some "controversial" YouTubers in the 100k to 500k range:
>WingsofRedemption
>DSPGaming
>Digibro/Yggstudios
>Lowtiergod

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283433
Right wing trannies exist, just look at how many are on this site

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283433
Did said tranny talk about their trans identity or try to push their beliefs about inclusivity on you while streaming? Then they weren't being overtly leftist/progressive and you're just seething over a funny voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283081
A slightly more successful JP stars I would imagine. If they were trying to aim for the Niji homo crowd, they would have hired BFE fujo magnets instead of brotubers, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re actually thrown through a loop a bit by Tempus’ success out of the gate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283106
Yeah but not at the exact same time as Council, and it would be bad taste for Myth to get their 3rd non-Kimono outfits before Council got their first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283558
>Lowtiergod
HUGE missed opportunity by both corpos. That's a SF/Smash pro right there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283558
DSP as a corpo chuuba would be levels of kino that we couldn't even comprehend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29278720
Do you have fucking eyes
They're spending it on goddamn bots, where have you been for the last 2 months
Every gold from Nijisanji this month has been blatantly botted

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283603
I think Regis is or was supposed to be that, dunno how that will turn out in the long run though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283140
But how long those expectations will remain.
Since luxiem that mentality sould have been over for NijiEN.
Tempus started with nothing but they are still treated as HoloEN numbers of doomposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283598
kys nijitranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283509
HOLOLIVE SUMMER BAYYBEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei's new album doing good.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I would really enjoy if Cover's next round of EN hires (male or female) finally included someone who didn't have the facecammer mentality so we could see if playing a character can do good numbers with the EN audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283579
It's weird to meet one. Some guy at my work is a fag, married to another dude, and is the most fanatical Trump fan imaginable. We have trannies too but I don't talk to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283665
We'll get more of an idea after his ASMR numbers tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283771
I knew a gay guy once that kept shouting at trannies whenever he saw them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283665
I think Regis is more to appeal to kpop "softboi" fans, not necessarily straight up fujos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283598
>their trans identity
>their beliefs
It's HIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283693
>Tempus started with nothing but they are still treated as HoloEN numbers of doomposting
The people who do that are just trying to grasp at straws to shit talk Cover and Hololive. Everyone with a brain knows Tempus is a new milestone for Holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283753
wtf does this mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283753
Salome proved that going full kayfabe doesn't work. She is already a dead chuuba. The audience needs to be able to connect with you on a personal level for you to maintain an audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283693
>But how long those expectations will remain.
For the older girls? Forever because people still have low expectations for old Holos that started from nothing like Mel and Aki.
For the new waves? Right now, which is why iLUMA is getting shat on for bad number right out of the gate.

>Tempus started with nothing but they are still treated as HoloEN numbers of doomposting.
Where are you even seeing this? Tempus has been overwhelmingly praised for their content and numbers.
If you're talking about pre-debut, people were doomposting them because Stars have been historically failures and getting 3views is very embarassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283832
kpop softboi fans are fujos

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283040
I think that's Yugo

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283786
Will also be a way to gauge how many female fans they have. Nothing more filtering to crossover Holo EN fans than a man with a gay lisp doing ASMR. I'll be shocked if it can maintain over 3k, even if it peaks higher early due to people checking it out for the novelty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283527
I mean, I think it's like tradition for newly debuted Holomembers to play games that match their lore kinda, and most of the time it's a debuff game from what I've seen.
Gura played that shark game, but she was horrible at it to the point that she had to admit she was a rhythm played.
Ame played LaNoire, but she didn't realize the game was filled with racial slurs and had her panicking the entire time.
Ina played call of Cthulhu, Kronii played 12 mins, Fauna Spore, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283558
Better than what they got for iLuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283665
He's just a soft boy to round out the roster. If they got another bro, their vibes would be too similar. There are soft boys on the JP side too like Izuru and Miyabi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282148
Predict the Rust yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283937
Nijifujos hate nina and yugo for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283558
DSP is more engaging and talented than anybody NijiEN has ever hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283937
I sympathize tranny, my brain also doesn't work properly since I'm in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283996
Gura and/or Mumei will shout "Die spic" when they shoot Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283598
I know you're not gonna acknowledge this but here

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283951
>Ame played LaNoire, but she didn't realize the game was filled with racial slurs and had her panicking the entire time.
Ame streamed LA Noire on her roommate before so she knew. She just used it as a bit to get an Ame reaction out early, which was smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284087
>mito_worried28.png
Are we at 30 yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283945
Yeah, Fauna's ASMR already filters out a lot of people, I can't imagine many guys tuning in for Regis ASMR. He's going to have to rely on whatever female audience exists. Honestly 3k seems generous given his last Zelda stream but maybe Nijimale fujo tourists might take a look idk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283996
No yab, they will treat this game like Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283996
It'll be boring because none of the girls will kill each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284087
mitoposting is the best niji meme out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284155
No, but considering the current rate we should hit it within the next couple of months.
Especially since the new folks have some spicy potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283729
HOLOLIVE DOMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284167
I can imagine it being like the one ARK stream Gura & Mumei did where they just wander around and pretty much get nothing done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282424
new vsinger

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283263
How many NijiEN girls even average 2k-4k? Isn’t that more like the absolute top level for NijiEN girls rather than the baseline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283996
Irys will call someone a gypsy after they loot her base

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284167
It depends on who joins. There are definitely people who want to grief because that's what they think rust is for

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284087
Aia is a trans?
Come on anon, they're talking about the others. Aia is the only one being retarded enough to put those things on their debut stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Mito come home, you can get in gen0 with the other og

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284213
>within the next couple of months
I was sure that e would hit it this month but i guess nijiEN has slowed down or are preparing to go into yab overdrive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284317
FAUFAU!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283951
Gura-Maneater
Ina-Call of Cthulu
Ame-Valorant
Mori-Mad Father
Kiara-Fall Guys

IRyS-One Hand Clapping

Kronii-Frostpunk
Fauna-Spore
Mumei-Journey
Bae-Rat Simulator..............
Sana-Celeste

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284317
Who? There are no griefers in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Am8O3mATMKU

Everything we thought HoloEN would be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284047
Hell yeah he is

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283886
I don't watch Salome so I can't comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284406
>>29284388

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284087
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1551995747855323141

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284431
She stormed out of the gates with record breaking numbers but, not even 2 months later, she is basically a dead channel. Her 100% kayfabe all the time act was enough to gather a lot of tourists fast, but they quickly dropped off when they got bored.

A chuuba just purely "playing a character" doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284236
Assuming they're in JP server, Matsuri will show up and start the drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284306
Yeah it's on the higher end. I imagine that's what they expected rather than the 1200-1800 of someone like Finana or Reimu, which would only be a bit better than Holostars JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283665
I don’t think that’s true. He may come off as a BFE vtuber because of his voice and design, but he doesn’t actually act like that at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284402
Kronii played 12 minutes before Frostpunk im pretty sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283509
Quick question.
Does HoloEN girls treat stars as sempais?
I have only seen it the other way around.
Thinking of Tempus having kouhais.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284572
That's why i'm not entirely sure, his voice and design is practically screaming for ladies to bend him over but he seems like an absolute gremlin that hangs out with his bros, but i guess we will see how his ASMR stream turns out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29283753
I think playing a character just doesn't work for the current day irony-poisoned western audience.
In addition, English as a language is not really well suited to playing a character while still being able to do streamer related stuff.
For example, Salome has a wide variety of phrases and tics that she uses for the ojousama kayfabe.
For EN, that would involve a LOT of work, because you'd basically have to have Actor-level abilities to continuously play a character for an hour or more.
Also is there ANYONE doing that kind of thing in the EN indie sphere and not a 2view?

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently Aia used to make videos talking about "objectifying women in geek media" and talking about art proportions. Expect a fan art review critiquing anatomy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282424
new debut, project Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518
Is this the Mag killer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284690
Pretty sure Bae and Ollie calls them senpai. Most others ignore that they exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284323
oh was it someone else? all this alphabet soup shit is just the same to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284406
>There are no griefers in EN.
The entire war that fell flat on its face because Kronii has no spine started because Fauna built a maze in the nether, locked Kronii in, ran to the JP server, hid in Haachama's flying castle, hid her screen so Kronii couldn't stream snipe her, went back to the EN server, and hid near Ina's house while Kronii followed her the entire time and end up zenlossing. And then she actually went through with chat's suggestion by saying "gg btw Kronii". Honestly I think all of SNOT has it in them if they wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284742
Council + hope 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284387
yeah last one was in later June, so they did have a 3 week window with no yabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284724
Wow, she seems like a ticking bomb or a massive hypocrite, kinda like Nina i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284812
The fact the minecraft war went no where for Council is the biggest fucking travesty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284879
It was unfortunately caught in the time where Kronii "burn out" of minecraft because all her fans bitched at her. That and she was scared her fans would harass Fauna for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518
EN vtubers was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

How did vampire dad do with his zatsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284999
8k, so pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284690
Yes when they mention them they use the senpai term, at least the ones that use honorifics for the JP Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284879
Shame cause fauna knows how to start shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284930
Kronii had great first impression for me but she stagnanted for me as well as her growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518
You just got yoinked, /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285121
Kronii has had an incredibly rough first year, through no fault but her own, and it's only starting to look up NOW, a month before her anniversary, and could get fucking worse at the drop of a hat because it's Kronii and she's never consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284999
8k on a weekday down from 10k on Sunday. Hopefully he can hold on above 5k. Regis is the only one so far with a sub 5k stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285322
Fucking Zelda man...

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284518
I am not even surprised.
This is what attracted most of their fanbase.
They have to keep posting like this.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the 100k subs requirement to apply to NijiEN an actual confirmed thing, or is that an assumption based on all the new hires meeting that requirement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285432
The latter.
People just assume it because this could not possibly be the best they've gotten. There's no fucking way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285477
Is this a good place to remind people of the 30,000 applications?

[Anonymous No.]

>>29284705
I'm not asking for method acting, and that was never even the intention. A roleplay vtuber's appeal is in the particularities of the role provided for them and their own character, less real than an unscripted normal person but more real than a scripted fictional character. It's a very compelling kind of performance that I don't think people appreciate enough, and it's also a fine line to tread. Lean too much in either direction and you lose the magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282232
the jp stars were doing english reps pretty studiously a few months ago, collabs might be pretty smooth with tempus

[Anonymous No.]

Seems Aster will hit 5k today at least.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really give a shit about this threads opinion on iLUNA because this thread obviously hates Nijisanji like they're the cute girl who rejected them in high school but I'm more curious to see how /NijiEN/ feels about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285710
Apparently Oga suddenly feels like starsEN are more hololive than stars, hopefully that attitude isn't prevalent among the homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29282232
StarsJP numbers are so low that even a small amount of tourists from Tempus will be noticeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>29285527
>sort the application by country of residence
>remove every seafag
>sort it out again by number of subs
ez. And to think most of their viewers are seaniggers, i cant stop laughing at them

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>>29285810
source? because that sounds like a really bad take for someone that should be trying to create connections with them

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>>29285810
not just Hololive, more HoloEN. Oga made a distinction about that

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>>29285810
What does he mean? Because of popularity?

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>>29285861
Isn't the white girl in Wave 6 a literal SEAnigger?

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>>29285861
Do we suspect any nepotism hires from Iluna?

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>>29285963
I have no clue

>>29285935
I think /stars/ might be clearer about it, i just heard about it and no one denying it

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>>29286010
Supposedly Fulgur and Scarle were friends prior

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>>29285810
He might be salty about numbers, but is he wrong? HoloEN also has a different mood and conduct compared to holoJP.

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>>29284522
I mean she's not a good entertainer, like you said she was carried by her ojousama character

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>>29285861
>remove every seafag
why would they do that? they're known as nijiESL for a reason.

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Kiara 4k dorya...............

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>>29285998
Millie is a flip but in can, so could be similar situation. I still cant get over the fact that the one behind Millie got in over Kaheru, top flip chuuba

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>>29285796
Then why are you blogposting here instead of going over there, retard.

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>>29284522
>dead channel
>20-30k viewers

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>>29286169
she lost 70-80% of her viewerbase in 6 weeks.

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>>29286233
I wont consider her dead til shes in the guttet with the rest of the women of niji

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>>29286130
that seems unbelieveable

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>>29285810
>>29285935
>>29285963
>>29286041
>>29286063
I mean, he's not wrong. Tempus and HoloEN are just culturally distinct from their original japanese counterparts. No one would actually consider EN and ID be on the same level as JP

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Oh.
Is he even going to make 5k?

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>>29286010
Scarle and Fulfur knew each other, in fact she voiced one character in his lore intro
Maria and Petra apparently have some connections too but I'm not certain either

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>>29286233
This is such a meme statistic. Everyone with 100k+ debut loses 80-90% of their audience in even less time. Even Kobo right now lost 75% of her debut audience.

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>>29285810
Is this like when JP5 had a meltdown over Myth's numbers?

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>>29285796
Go back then retard.

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Shinigami Note 7,238 physical sales, 664 digital sales.
Rarararabbit! 2,028 digital sales.

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Why do we bully Salome when all she wanted was to entertain people?

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>>29286309
holoen are closer to holojp than holoen to are to random western vtubers like vshojo

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>>29286343
I can't imagine the normal NijiEN male fanbase is interrested in Roguelites. Shame since EtG is greaat.

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>>29286357
she held that debut audience for all of RE7. why can't she do that now?

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>>29285796
We like Ren and Maria we don't care about the rest.

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>>29285810
StarsEN has a pretty different attitude towards vtubing and they're also not afraid to start name dropping Holos they don't interact with.

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>>29286472
>holoen are closer to holojp than holoen to are to random western vtubers like vshojo
not really

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>>29286491
There is no male fan for nijien male

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>>29286465
Pretty sure the reason is cause of the incessant shitposting using her numbers during her RE7 days. Same reason people pay way more attention to when Luxium fail.

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>>29286503
>>>/vt/nijien

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>>29285944
He's completely right though. And its not just him, the fans are treating them like they're the new HoloEN gen for some reason. Its gonna cause a lot of friction when most of HoloEN nopes out of collabing with them. Homobeggars have been able to keep up the double think of "i-it's the fans forcing the girls to ignore them" or "i-it's management" but when they see most prefer to not touch the homo landmine, they will seethe and resent.
Doesn't help that this time they'll be backed by /vt/, I've already seen lots of posts here seething at Gura refusing to acknowledge her "coworkers", which was downright unthinkable nonsense weeks ago.

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>>29286565
retard

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>>29286472
Even with all the bitching and moaning about Council, and even Myth, you can't say they ruin the brand name with how they act on stream.

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>>29286343
If you think this is bad, wait till Kyo and Aia start in 45 mins.

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>>29286503
>we
Fuck off

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>>29286528
Which ones? I've watched every stream so far and I recall only holos being bright up when they chatted.
Not denying they're different or oga is wrong.

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>>29286641
He should at least hit the 5k mark, climbed after I posted. But yeah he'll probably tank to hell once the next hour comes in

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>>29286628
Well, except for Mori.

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>>29286573
Meant the NijiEN guys fanbase. missed the S which fucked up the sentence.

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>>29286601
That watchalong surely didn't help, but it's going to be interesting to see if any of the talents put their foot down specifically against homobeggars

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>>29286528
The only Holo they have brought up unprompted is Sana, due to her graduation. Besides that it's just responding to those who show up in chat.

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>>29280912
Their staff/manager are mainly japanese, retard

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>>29286755
Funny enough the homobeggars are smart enough to go to the girls who would actually talk about them.

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>>29286465
A lot of people likes to see stars falling no matter where, specially after a big hype.

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>>29286755
the watchalong was probably the worst thing they could have done it is such a baffling decision seemingly based entirely on short term growth and not the strength of the stars brand

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>>29286601
>I've already seen lots of posts here seething at Gura refusing to acknowledge her "coworkers", which was downright unthinkable nonsense weeks ago.
I haven't seen this at all in /MANS/ but desu its to be expected since the HoloEN girls will lose some viewers the moment they acknowledge the Stars
Hell if you ask the JP Starsfag majority of them don't even care if the girls acknowledge them or not

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5Hj5bc354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5Hj5bc354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5Hj5bc354

Another Gura/Mumei show

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>>29286791
Even Sana was in response to scheduling around her graduation and not wanting to be a cold bitch.

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>>29286601
>Its gonna cause a lot of friction
Meds

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>>29284518
This is the best 6 streamers anycolor managed to get through their auditions. All out war according to Pomu

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Mumei joining Rust, maximum buff being applied

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>>29286876
I wonder if it's something Omega cooked up independent of the actual stars management, because it's entirely against their entire way of doing things.

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>>29286918
Mumei starting 30 minutes later. Guess they wont treat it like the ark collab.

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>>29286876
It was an odd move for sure because it basically promotes Tempus cannibalising holoEN viewership (which doesn't even prefer males) instead of building their own audience.

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>>29286819
From the leak we saw the staff are actually Indians...not just Noor. Probably because you can get someone with a business degree but will work for cheap and speaks English or at least a variant of it.

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>>29286601
I saw these exact doomposts on /vyt/ 3 years ago.

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>>29286968
A-chan was involved so that's already above Shinvoe iirc.

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>>29286876
>strength of the stars brand
Doesn't fucking exist, retard

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>>29285477
Wasn't Axel like a 3k subscriber shitter

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>>29286983
>Mumei starting 30 minutes later.
One of Mumei's detriments is unironically her faggot dog.

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>>29286601

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Is Tempus getting a female audience, or are they just cannibalizing from Holos?

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>>29287063
Fucking love this retard and his response to Magni traumadump

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>>29287047
which is why they need to focus on it to build up strength retard

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>>29287111
>Magni traumadump
QRD?

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>>29287102
Negative on the former, probably? on the latter.

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>>29287102
There were like 3 female vocaroos in the tempus thread yesterday. Yes they are gaining a female audience.

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>>29287102
I think they are getting actual females, but i do not think it will be even half as bad as nijiEN

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>>29287139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzO-buAqSA

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>>29287050
They're shitting on niji not stars

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>>29287124
>looks at Holostars JP after 3 years
>looks at Holostars EN after a few days
Yeah your suggestion worked out great

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>>29287111
Magxel are going to be the Gurame and Kronmei of Stars.

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>>29285432
I mean, even nijifujos believe the cutout is at least 100k given how bad they were compared to the preexisting indies with lower sub counts

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>>29287124
Which they're doing by using the greater hololive audience to help give them initial feet; there was bound to be some who'd be interested in the stars after being exposed, and what do you know. They were absolutely fucking right, stars and live share quite a lot of their audience right now and probably will stay that way

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>>29287102
It's hard to tell. Regis ASMR will be a good barometer. ASMR filters people regardless of gender but it will ultra filter straight men.

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>>29287197
>what about worms?

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>>29287016
Yes, some of them are, but most are in anycolor hq in jp. staff/managers who speak english

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>>29287102
I'm not a biologist. I can't answer that.

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>>29287102
They are getting a higher percentage chat overlap with the Nijiboys than any other Holo, so there are definately some even if it isn't a huge amount.

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>>29287016
Yes, Vihan and Noor are staff on NijiEN, we can see them on the leak. managers are japanese though, including one woman who was part of Nintendo of Europe

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>>29287102
70% female audience - 30% male audience

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Aster 5k get.

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>>29287102
From yesterday's overlap it seems like the girls numbers aren't being affected that much. Noir pretty much increased the EU audience by 8k without so much as a scratch on Kiara's viewership.

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>>29287425
Source? Everything I've seen so far has indicated there is more chat overlap with the Holo girls.

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>>29287437
doubters BTFO

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StarsEN 2 doko

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>>29287437
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND Aster z'd.

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>>29287534
next year