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2921245 No.2921245 [Reply] [Original]

I think the battle is finally settled

>> No.2921273

>>2921245
Gay thread. This is now about roboco vs flare which is happening right now.

>> No.2921297

>>2921273
question from a newfagchaama
why do those two perform so poorly?
i thought roboco would at least be super coomer bait buffed

>> No.2921315

Ina will get their first, KFP will cry it "Doesn't count" because Youtube messed with their boss. Ignoring the fact that it ever got this close in the first place is all on chicken.

>> No.2921334

>>2921273
They’re both pretty boring

>> No.2921336

>>2921315
*there

>> No.2921337

Do you think the menhera attack chicken's going to have when she gets beaten by a korean burrito is finally going to result in her graduation?

>> No.2921355

>>2921297
People will tell you it's because roboco mostly plays apex all the time. I don't really ever feel the coomer aura in a roboco stream. Flare might be a mystery but people say they're filtered by her voice. She has some bizarre dedicated audience of women and maybe a larger audience just can't fit in.

>> No.2921386

>>2921334
I love that Ina can control herself unlike most of her pals but link one genuinely entertaining Ina clip.

>> No.2921398 [DELETED] 

>>2921245
Imagine being the most tryhard vtuber of EN (besides maybe mori) and STILL having the least amount of subs. Where did it all go wrong?

>> No.2921479

I don't have a hatebonner for Kiara like most in this board, I really like her Holotalks

>> No.2921480

>>2921398
Trying hard. Looking desperate isn't very attractive to the general population. So it's not surprising that all her fans are saviorfags.

>> No.2921491

>>2921355
I guess roboco's design is very horny, but she herself isn't
maybe they're just overshadowed by their peers/genmates?

>> No.2921618

>holosharts infighting
you love to see it. mentally ill numberchimps throwing shit at each other is one of the main reasons I come here

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>>2921245

>> No.2921869

>>2921245
Don't worry at 925k she'll make it up at her "Singing Until 1 million!" stream.

>> No.2922003

im actually watching this flare girl doing a sub begging karaoke stream to 600k subs and she sounds so bad. shes literally killing her voice just for a number. is this normal? why are hololive vtubers so obsessed with numbers?

>> No.2922096

>>2922003
It's just her.

>> No.2922181

>>2922003
Flare and Noel in particular go to extreme lengths. Going for 10k subs on a begging stream is not normal...

>> No.2922226
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>>2921869
This desu.

>> No.2922297

>>2921355
Roboco is a sweetheat but other than that I can't really say much of her, you kinda of nailed Flare, she feels more like a man this is probably why her entire Gen is hot for her, as with Roboco she doesn't really have anything about her that stands out.

I 100% believe every Hololive member was picked in good faith but a lot of them are not living up to their potential

>> No.2922303

>>2921297
you would need to be an absolute retard to think Flare performs poorly.

>> No.2922340

>>2921869
She will hit 1,000,000 for a brief moment, switch to SC reading, number drops back down to 990,000, and gradually goes up and down again until it stabilizes at 980,000 by the end.

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>>2921245
Pathetic...

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>>2922226
that is fucking hilarious

>> No.2922421

>>2921245
Kiara will not lose. She is clearly gonna do a stream until 1 Million.

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2922442

>>2922421
>kiara just streams non-stop until she hits 1M
>ina still gets there first

>> No.2922460

>>2922096
>>2922181
you sure about that? considering holofags here cant stop going into other threads to numberfag, and i see these fucking sub comparisons threads every day, i would think its a mentality in the vtubers that ended up spreading to its fanbase

>> No.2922464

>>2921245
>Kiara is 5k away from the million while Inas is only 1k away or something along those lines
>She does another karaoke stream
>She reaches the million first as a result
Unless there's like a 20k difference between them by the time Ina nears the million it's not over yet, so you better not get complacent

>> No.2922483

This is a gay thread, the OP needs to go kill himself. I subscribed to both girls and I will support them both. I don't care who gets 1 million first, and nothing you say is going to make me care. :))

>> No.2922487

Ina seems the type to just let Kiara take it, to pacify her. It's what I would do desu.

>> No.2922581

>>2922442
That would be interesting but lets be real. It's gonna be a singing stream till a Mill then maybe a few days or a week later Ina will get a Mill. What I REALLY want is Ina to do a stream to 1 Million just to see the chaos that would bring.

>> No.2922582

>>2922483
this "rivalry" happened because the chicken likes to numberfag so much anon

>> No.2922591

>>2922487
Kaira will make it a big event for her milestone and Ina will probably just say thanks ill plan something later

>> No.2922602

>>2921245
When EN got announced I knew that the natural tribalistic EOP crowd will make all of this into a competition. It wasnt hard to foresee that the NA trio was going to be picked as the favorites over the JP duo, because of the streaming times and the main EN audience being located in NA. EOPs, for some reason, just always seem to need an enemy to fight against. Kiara was chosen to fulfill this role. Most arguments, that get thrown against Kiara could be easily used against other JP holos. Shilling merch and songs, numberfagging about viewership and subscribers, doing sub driving streams, yuribaiting, using a character voice... all of it is done by JPs aswell. But peace is boring and someone has to be the heel and the target for shitposting.

>> No.2922618

>>2921245
I'm actually glad that they're close in this regard. It kinda gives me a "no man left behind" kinda vibe. Also there has been gaps like this multiple times before. I am just ready for them to hit 1 mill and for this to be even further irrelevant joke/bait

>> No.2922637

>>2922487
There's only so much Ina'd be able to do tho to help Kiara tho
It's not like she's gonna start calling her subs niggers to get them to unsubscribe or recognize Taiwan as a country

>> No.2922664

I thought takos were proud that their oshi didn't care about numbers, but now I see them numberfaging even more than KFP, in these threads and in the generals

>> No.2922668

>>2922602
Likeability. That's what Kiara lacks.

>> No.2922690

>>2922003
>She's been streaming for 3 hours
>Still has 3k left to go
No way that's good for her voice.

>> No.2922724

>>2922602
>the natural tribalistic EOP crowd will make all of this into a competition.
a-anonchama?!
You do realise the japs also numberfag shit up right? You CAN speak/read moon runes right? You aren't just talking shit about English speakers while only knowing ONE language right?!

>> No.2922745

It’s gonna be a cringe fest when Kiara hits 1 million, I can already see her fake cries and her pity speeches when nobody really loves her like that

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>>2921245
>Ina gets to 1M first on a gorilla Minecraft stream
>Kiara after 12 straight hours of endurance karaoke:

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>>2922637
>she stirs up the dokdo vs takeshima debate on stream

>> No.2922804

>>2922591
Ina has said before that she'd make karaoke streams every 200k subs to celebrate the milestone so she'll most likely just follow through
She might drop an original song or something if we're lucky

>> No.2922815

>>2922745
Nah. The tears will be real and twitter users really like her. The problem will come when her live views don't get any higher

>> No.2922816

>>2922483
>I don't care who gets 1 million first, and nothing you say is going to make me care
That's cool and all but then what the fuck are you doing commenting here, just ignore it if you really don't care

>> No.2922823

>>2922664
>he seriously thinks takos are making these threads
naive

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You guys think Kiara ever asks Ina to take a break once in a while so she can catch up in subs?

>> No.2922873

>>2922854
No.

>> No.2922943

>>2922815
Her live viewers has never really became higher tho. It hurts her channel a lot when she really tries hard to collab with jp holos to get to sub to her and even collabing with Mori for a thousand time doesn’t help because there is still a large gap between her and mori of 300k subs that doesn’t want to sub even with all the yuribaiting

>> No.2923006

>>2922943
Yeah I just think when 1 Mill hits and nothing really changes it might be dishearting. Kiara is kinda sensitive.

>> No.2923029

>>2921355
can't speak to other people. But I love flare's voice, and find it adorable how she she reads superchats after everyone she does a bow. I don't get why she is not more popular but wish her nothing but the best. As with all holo members.

>> No.2923037

>>2922637
>>2922783
>today I'll be showing you my artist depictions of Japanese comfort women
>shitting on her senpais
>starts questioning official hall of cost numbers
>Justyn Beiber karaoke
>Ina gets banned, graduated, blacklisted, and arrested
>Somehow hits 2 million before Calli

>> No.2923062

>>2922943
>Her live viewers has never really became higher tho
thats the case for all of them except ina. They all gained subs and either lost live viewers or remained the same.

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>>2921297
Flares original model was a bit shit and she didn’t like it, that’s why she only uses her new one now, which wasn’t a great start. Also I always got the impression from her streams that she’s a hard EOP filter. She doesn’t have any stand out talents, but is probably the most well rounded in hololive. Good singer, good artist, funny, nice talking streams, decent at games and plays a variety. Also turns out she actually likes her English fans, tries to learn and puts English in most of her titles. Pretty good at everything unless you want a GFE or ASMR to jack off to.

Roboco is the girlier version on Flare.

>> No.2923152

>>2923067
Interesting. Reminds me of why I'm lukewarm about Silvervale from Vshojo because she doesn't have as much of a standout feature as the rest of that group.

>> No.2923158

>>2923037
>Reaches 3M before Gura and Kizuna

>> No.2923207

>>2923067
if you didn't like her at her bulbasaur, you dont deserve her at her best.

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>Gen mate moves back to EU from Japan
>She still streams at night time JST (midday EU)
>Continue with midday PT streams
>Become the saviour of EUfags during dead hours at night and watch sub count rise

>> No.2923333

GLORY TO THE DPRK. LONG LIVE KIM JONG-UN.

>> No.2923345

>>2923276
Devilish.

>> No.2923350

>>2923276
Imagine having a monopoly on EU times and choosing to stream JP time.
I don't know where Kiara's head is at, if she's representing her brand shouldn't she want to stream at peak European time?

>> No.2923395

>>2923067
I'm 1000% EOP and Flare is one of the only holos I watch regularly, along with Choco. Flare always brings a smile to my face whenever she starts to have a laughing fit.

>> No.2923400

>>2923350
muh honorary nip

>> No.2923485

>>2923350
kiara unironically wants to be japanese you know that right

>> No.2923522

>>2923485
>>2923400
pretty selfish.

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>>2923067
>Huh, what’s that anon? You’re getting tired of the other girls streams?
>Come chill with me bro
>Let’s play minecraft and actually do something instead of walking around or spending 4 hours to build a wooden shack
>Or we can play GTA. I just like to fuck around and have fun in it, maybe we can collab with Miko again.
>You like collabs? I did stuff with Sora, Choco, Marine, Noel, Fubuki, Watame, Polka and Kanata in just the last two weeks.

>> No.2924302

>>2921245
The difference is Ina barely shows any effort, while Kiara tries too hard.

>> No.2924374

>>2924302
She puts in effort but she doesn't rub it in your face.

>> No.2924536

>>2921245
KFP employees on suicide watch rn

>> No.2924586

>>2922618
Yeah, I love them both and I think the majority of tako and KFP do too, I mean most of these numberfag threads are by falseflaggers anyway

>> No.2924811

>>2923602
I started watching Roboco after her collab with Ame because she seemed cute and her english was good enough to communicate with her EN audience, now that I've been doing my JP reps I think I'll be giving Flare a shot too
do you think she'll ever do a collab with a EN girl? I don't think I've seen any of them talk about her

>> No.2924869

>>2923067
She has businesswoman personality

>> No.2924876

>>2923067
was her kimono outfit also part of her old model? Because I really liked that one.

>> No.2924877

>>2923276
not only that, she's great for sleeping to.

>> No.2924912

>>2922664
they'll say it's "ikas" but don't forget that tranny with an ina avatar was the first to harass kiara on twitter. he's probably still here, posting threads like this one.

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>>2923067
>Flares original model was a bit shit and she didn’t like it
That's a shame. I think her original design is really fucking good.

>> No.2925154

Numberfags vs Anti numberfags while flaseflagging each other.
Onegaiiii

>> No.2925163

>>2924811
I’d be surprised if a flare x EN collab happened. She speaks basically no English so it would be with Kiara, Calli or Ina if it did happen. Ina is the only one I imagine would be a good fit, if they did something like the monster hunter collab she did with Aki. Flares not shy and can carry a conversation though so anything could happen, but she seems pretty happy with what she’s doing now.

>> No.2925207

It's funny how Ina caught up to Kiara even after Kiara boosting the numbers through her 900K Karaoke.

Remember guys, the race only ends when one of them reaches 1M.

>> No.2925267

>>2925207
> boosting
"Boosting". YT giveth, YT taketh away.

>> No.2925276

>>2921297
imo, her model is bad and so stiff, it's kinda understandable, since she's the early gen, i hope Yagoo fix her model after EN Gen2

>> No.2925287

>>2925207
The shitposting is fun sometimes but I'm tried of the race and the rrats.

>> No.2925360

>>2921355
I always though Flare was more popular than she is, I think she's got one of the best voices in hololive. Maybe she's just not as much of a "comedian"

>> No.2925409

>>2924811
She's so self-conscious about her English that she won't go on meme review even though she has a leddit account and is good friends with Coco, so there's pretty much zero chance of an EN collab

>> No.2925414

I would honestly love for both of them to do a collab when they get close and celebrate together just to shut you fucking dramawhores up.

>> No.2925420

>>2925360
She is popular by every measurement other than subs though, she get a ton of superchats, has a lot of members and gets more viewers than people with much higher sub counts

>> No.2925632

>>2924811
she could only do it with ina, cali, or kiara as they speak jap.

>> No.2925639

>>2925414
Kiara would never do that

>> No.2925877

>>2921245
HA! Last one to 1M is a ROTTEN EGG!

>> No.2925964

>>2925420
That's good then, I hope she continues doing well and Noel smothers her with her tits every night.

>> No.2926080

>>2922297
>I 100% believe every Hololive member was picked in good faith but a lot of them are not living up to their potential
You need to remember that until some point before gen 5, hololive was literally who-tier. They didn't have the clout to attract people with proven track records and were just hiring random people. Subaru had barely ever used a computer before she was hired.

>> No.2926239

>>2926080
>until some point before gen 5, hololive was literally who-tier
anon...your reps.

>> No.2926386

>>2922226
kek, stop the count

>> No.2926479

>>2921398
she remind me of my college tryhard friends who did everything to be the best in the class and then only manage to get B+ while the lazy old guy who rarely go to class, always late, smells like a walking cigars and looks like caffeine adicts is also got a B+ without even trying because he is friends with the professor(s).

>> No.2926480

>>2925639
You people have the most warped image of this girl in your heads.
I want to know what makes you think like this.

>> No.2926787

What good is having high subcounts when your subscribers barely watch your streams at all. I remember holos like Pekora, Korone and Marine getting the minimum of 10k viewers back in spring 2020 in any stream they do. Each of them ranges from 300k to 400k subscribers iirc. Kiara is at 900k now but only averages 5k viewers, for example. Ina is the lesser evil of the two but from what I see she's hard capped at 10k too.

>> No.2926822

>>2925414
Its fucking stupid for them to celebrate together, cause mile stone stream are easily one of the most lucrative stream. They would probably get more money collectively if they did their own stream. Kiara is definitely not giving up those money. Ina might, but if Kiara allows it, it is not going to reflect well on her.

>> No.2926830

>>2921245
This is so retarded. Kiara actually has the same amount of subs, it's just youtube deleted her 2k sub bots giving Ina an unfair advantage.

>> No.2926858

>>2926830
God damnit now I have to buy more sub bots.

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>>2921245
It was settled long time ago

>> No.2927209

>>2921245
The only battle is in your head.

>> No.2927225

>>2927183
Yes, long, long before. You do know that Ina is literally a millionaire, right? Before hololive.

>> No.2927261

>>2927225
>I don't need to earn money for the company that I'm working for because I'm already a millionaire
Nice logic, next you're telling me that cover is a non-profit organization

>> No.2927283

>>2921315
Nah Kiara will get there first because she will do an endurance stream which Ina won't

>> No.2927313

>>2927283
She might even do A ringfit adventure

>> No.2927318

>>2927283
And then YT will cut 15k subs this time, because Susan has a personal vendetta with her.

>> No.2927372

>>2923037
based

>> No.2927388

Poor ina.

>> No.2927407

>>2923485
wants to be nip, but can't find a way to become a citizen after so many years in nippon, kek

>> No.2927413

>>2927283
Can't wait to see more KFP bot subs deleted.

>> No.2927484

>>2922226
Ina lost, get over it.
We're ridin with chikin now.

>> No.2927490

>>2921273
I find Roboco pretty boring, but I love Flare and have no idea how is she so low in subs in comparison to others. She's cute and funny (literally)

>> No.2927534

>>2926480
They are retarded teenagers. They think they have to look down on others.

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>>2922582
But you schizos are the ones who always care about numbers and spam threads about it.
Here is my numberfag image for today
Maybe you should spend your time supporting your Oshi instead of funposting here.

>> No.2927628

>>2927611
>Not a cult

>> No.2927667

>>2927611
KFP is by far the strongest fanbase in HoloEN if they outperform talents that have 3x its size kek

>> No.2927723

>>2927667
>strongest fanbase
Most mentally ill

>> No.2927746

>>2923029
Based elfriend in a shit thread.

I concur. It all started with Gen3 host club clips. And then minecraft. Lots of minecraft. :Dark elf LOVE

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>>2927611
Is this weekly?

>> No.2927784

>>2927746
>Dark elf
https://streamable.com/i8yae3

>> No.2927789

>>2927611
Go Nene, go!

>> No.2927791

>>2927766
Monthly

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

Mori will most likely be #3 once this months stats are out. Kiara should stay the same but MIGHT drop a little since she won't be streaming much soon

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>>2927791
What the fuck.

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>>2927611
You are not going to enjoy your lie in April.

>> No.2927820

>>2927225
>You do know that Ina is literally a millionaire, right? Before hololive.
No. Artists don't earn that much. Comissions are pocket change. She's worked multiple jobs before like she's already mentioned.

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>>2927791

holy shit teakeks you are a disgrace. do something for your oshi what the actual fuck

>> No.2927843

>>2927784
:Dark
> :D

Come on, (You) shouldn't be this easy.

>> No.2927849

>>2927817
>your lie
This.
This website is mine and I change the numbers to troll you retards.

>> No.2927866

>>2927283
I wouldn't count on it - Kiara's going to take a few days off next week during her move and so will fall too far behind. Ina was always going to reach 1 million first for this reason alone

>> No.2927869

>>2927791
You think so? This comment will age well.
>>2927817

>> No.2927899

>>2927869
Yes samefagchama. Look at weekly and combine them all. Kiara should stay about the same while Mori will be #3. Keep in mind she made 50k or something crazy like that on her birthday alone.

>> No.2927911

>>2927849
This is the last three weeks.
>>2927817

>> No.2927923

>>2927827
We're broke alcoholic losers, what do you want from us?

>> No.2927940

>>2927911
No samefagchama. Combine all weeks of Kiara. Are you honestly to stupid to figure out this website

>> No.2927958

>>2927827
Amelia doesn't deserve money

>> No.2927974 [DELETED] 

>>2927940
In those 3 weeks she is only in 2 with a total of $31k you are retarded and apparently suck at math.

>> No.2927984

>>2923602
based

>> No.2927990

>>2927974
She is actually at 49.659 subhumanchama
One week left. As I said should stay about the same

>> No.2927992

>916 vs 915
She's catching up bros, we got too cocky.

>> No.2927999

>>2927940
In those 3 weeks she is only visible in 2 with a total of $33k you are retarded and apparently suck at math.

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>>2927958
Rude. She deserves all the money and happiness in the world.

>> No.2928039

>>2927999
Yeah you are too stupid to use this website, kek.

week 1 = 17.427
week 2 = 16.568
week 3 = 15.664

combined = 49.659

1 week left.

>> No.2928056

>>2928039
nah gonna be even more. week isn't over yet. Sims 4 stream today. probably another 2k or so

>> No.2928078

>>2921245
Literally who cares? Ina has second highest average view count after Gura and gives no fucks about numbers and SC. Kiara makes most SC in EN. This fight is pointless.

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>>2928039
Sick flex, congratulations on getting over 100k views twice in the last 6 weeks.

>> No.2928106

>>2928078
Well apparently the samefag OP does. He makes the same posts every day for whatever reason. He cares a lot about numbers.

>> No.2928123 [DELETED] 

>>2928078
That’s thing Kiara doesn’t, you keep saying that hoping people will believe you. Too bad it’s never going to be true.

>> No.2928125

>>2928092
holy kek kfp is too powerful
>>2927667
imagine if kfp had more numbers

>> No.2928131

>>2928078
Kiara cares

>> No.2928136

>>2922690
you should never start when you're that far away to begin with unless she's been losing subs the whole stream

>> No.2928143

>>2928131
In your mind yes.
Take your meds schizo

>> No.2928160

>>2928143
Her fans are reflection of her, and just look at yourselves.

>> No.2928163

>>2928125
Typical kraut fanbase
Quality over quantity

>> No.2928169

>>2928160
People with lots of money who won at life? Yeah fucking losers

>> No.2928190

>>2928160
damn, I'm so fucking hot

>> No.2928199

>>2928131
>Kiara cares
KIARA MEIN HUND IST TOT MACHT SCHNELLLLLLLLLLLLL

>> No.2928200

>>2928169
Is that why you live vicariously through someone else's accomplishments? Save some pussy for the rest of us.

>> No.2928221

>>2928200
Yet you are the one who cries that his oshi doesn't get as much money as Kiara. Your oshi doesn't give a fuck. Kiara doesn't give a fuck. You are the only one who gives a fuck. You spam the same numberfag bullshit every day.
You seriously need meds.

>> No.2928238

>>2927611
Holy kek Kiara

>> No.2928261
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>>2921245
>he didn't make a hundred accounts and subscribed to Kiara just to unsub when she makes 1m celebration stream
>Kiara hits 1m, thanks everyone, suddenly 50k accounts unsub
>Kiara breaks down and does an hero

>> No.2928264

>>2928221
>there is one (singular) kiara anti on /vt/
mate maybe you need the meds

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>>2928264

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>>2921245
>the battle is finally settled
>>2921273
>roboco vs flare
>>2921297
>perform so poorly

Very sad to compare.

>>2922483
>gay thread
>subscribed to both
>support them both
>don't care who gets 1 million first
this

>>2922582
>the chicken likes to numberfag so much anon
let us support the chicken by respectfully discouraging her from numberfaggotry. Kiara should follow the fox's example in >>2922376

>> No.2928297

>>2928264
>I'm not the one shitposting, it's other Kiara antis that are doing it
Sure, ok.

>> No.2928328

>>2922303
I think he means subscriber numbers when compared with her genmates. All of them have over 1 million while Flare has got "only" 600k.

>>2923395
You reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsuGapVuW6Y

>> No.2928341

>>2928264
M8
Even saying you are an anti makes you a retard. Because only retarded people are antis. How can you even be "anti-someone"? Because you don't like their voice or some shit? Just don't fucking watch them retard.
The fact you are an anti in the first place proves you are a mentally ill schizo.

>> No.2928403

>>2928341
i'm not the person you were arguing with. i'm saying if you think it's just one or two people who hate kiara on this board you are delusional

>> No.2928433

>>2928403
There are tons of people who don't like Oshi X or Y. But they don't trash talk them. They just don't watch them. Only schizos spam threads and samefag the entire day because no one seems to agree with them.
And yes I truly believe there are only like 3 or 4 omega schizos here who do this kind of shit.

>> No.2928484

>>2928328
There's much more to success than just subscribers you know, Flare has the 8th highest superchat total in Hololive and regularly gets over 10k viewers

>> No.2928524

>>2927820
Are you retarded? at least do your reps or watch streams before spouting bullshit, she confirmed on stream that her family is just normal middle class.
In fact even at her current revenue rate she is probably making more from hololive than from her artistic works.
She just loves drawing too much to stop and she is already well stablished and respected for her art.
All you faggots arguing about this shit deserve to rope, all this girls are wildly successful by any metric imaginable, they already won at life. Meanwhile you faggots are here shitposting and falseflagging about shit you can't even dream about.

>> No.2928565

>>2928524
This. Even if they "only" made 5k /month they won at life. It's more than what 90% of the world makes plus you have thousands of people who love and admire you, can work at home, make your own schedule and shit.
I don't understand why this dude always makes anti Kiara threads and cries about her numbers.

>> No.2928625

>>2928565
>I’m above tribalism, it’s all these other motherfuckers that are responsible.
So close, yet so retarded.

>> No.2928715

>>2921245
she start leeching on nyanners now ina surpassed her

>> No.2928810

>>2928221
This you?
>>2927611
>>2927183
How magnanimous.

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When you look at the data it's easy to know who is buying bot accounts.

>> No.2930215 [DELETED] 

>>2921297
Ina is actually the second in views of HoloEN when counting only streams, iirc

>> No.2930312

>>2927827
Was this drop due to the "walking banks" comment?

>> No.2930453
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2930453

>>2921245
It's going to be glorious

>> No.2930585

>>2923602
>Flare
>G36

yep, I gonna fap to that

>> No.2930748

>>2930312
If it's very recent then it might be because she turned off SCs for a couple streams since IIRC she didn't want people pouring too much on her over the whole allergy deal.

>> No.2930904

>>2921297
Flare used to have 3 digit viewers as late as January 2020, nowadays I count her among the most popular holos

>> No.2931088

>>2927667
Indeed. Olliefags tried to attack Kiara and so kfp destroyed ollie forever so now she is going to need to graduate and kill herself.

>> No.2931189

Kiara now has the Nyanners connection. Ina has no chance.

>> No.2931277

>>2927827
>does stealth GFE stuff
>turns off SCs half the time
what is Watson's master plan

>> No.2931376

>>2921245
Neither of them deserve that amount of subscribers, and it is reasonable to assume that they only reached that number thanks to Hololive. BUT I will say this: at least Ina is talented in more than one area. To this day I don't get what the fuck Kiara's appeal is suppose to be.

>> No.2931481

They're forever fated to stay even to the point where they will have to talk in private to arrange their streams to make sure their 1 million streams don't fucking clash

>> No.2931571

>>2931189
Nyanners/Kiara karaoke collab to 1M!

>> No.2931723

>>2927827
>>2931189
Ame and Ina losing in the eyes of numberfiends. Very sad.
where are my moneyfriends at

>> No.2931784

>>2923067
Flare's EOP viewers are openly hostile to anyone who's new to Flare, since it reminds them that they're still EOPs themselves and like /a/ and /v/ they hate themselves the most.

>> No.2932463

>>2931189
That's gonna hurt her

>> No.2932473

There is nothing more pathetic than trying to create fake drama through numbers.
Of course Kiara is a numbers fag, but that does not mean she want to fight with Ina over it.
If you don't like a vtuber don't watch it, if you like someone then watch it. It really is as simple as that.

>> No.2932494

She sure loves playing with dolls.

>> No.2932567

I get a boner when I think about how much Kiara despises Gura.

>> No.2932621

>>2932473
>If you don't like a vtuber don't watch it, if you like someone then watch it. It really is as simple as that.
Thanks for your wisdom you retarded redditor.

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>>2927313
>Kiara streams RFA
>moaning chicken noises
>she's actually just masturbating on stream

>> No.2932949

>this is gonna be the whole stream

>> No.2933782

>>2927806
>hiromoot is a popular streamer
wait whut

>> No.2933906

>>2922226
lmao, perfect

>> No.2934186

>>2930453
Knowing how badly the numbers affect her actually makes me kind of sad.

>> No.2934267

>>2927667
I think that's more of the norm actually.
The only abaration is Coco, who has both a large fanbase and generous gachikois. Lamy and Flare have small bases with deep pockets. Even Rushia doesn't pull nearly as big a viewership as Korone, Pekora, Marine...or many others, but she sings a siren song for Wallet-kun.

>> No.2934376

>>2924876
Yeah, she doesn't want to use anymore. Fucking retarded self hating slut.

>> No.2934392

>>2928277
Kys furfaggot

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>>2921245
>Ina is going to postpone her 1 million sub celebration, so she doesn't hurt Kiara's feelings

>> No.2934555
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2934555

What if they do a collab stream and reach 1mil together?

>> No.2934590

>>2934555
That'd probably be one of the coolest thing in Hololive history, but for that to happen they'd need to be within ~3k of each other at most.

>> No.2934619

>>2934555
>both start out at 999
>stream ends with ina at 1m and Kiara at 997.
Oh boy, what a great idea. Don't you remember what happened to chimkin at 900k?

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>>2931277
Crashing this thread... with no survivors !

>> No.2934967

>>2932750
That's an ollie thing you olliefagcuck. Stop talking about ollie in a Kiara thread.

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Head empty no thoughts

>> No.2936076

>>2935927
Takos attacking kiara gain, what a surprise.

>> No.2936136

>>2936076
I really dont care if kiara gets there first lol, i even remember ina saying shes nervous about the 1mil stream calls so eh :)

>> No.2936171

Subs are meaningless, supporters are creating alt accounts to sub their favorite, that is why the the subs match. Views = money so are more accurate. Kiara= 190k/day, Ina=130k/day. But streamers are not one size fits all, its not one is bad, one is good, they have different audiences.

>> No.2936210

>>2932473
>but that does not mean she want to fight with Ina over it.
Kiara is the kind of person that would sell her soul to Satan in order to be even more popular.

>> No.2937067

How are these endurance subscriber streams seen by people?

>> No.2937281

>>2937067
ok if it's a big milestone everyone is looking forward to, if you're doing it every 100k you're just a numberfagging trash

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>>2936171
Why do you feel the need to lie about the views? If you are going pull a number out of your ass at least have the decency no to lie about who has most views per day.

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>>2936171
Why do you feel the need to lie about the views? If you are going pull a number out of your ass at least have the decency not to lie about who has most views per day.

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>>2922226

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>>2922226

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>>2932473
>>2928433
Oh, puh-LEEZ, as if this board wouldn't become a diabetic hugbox without all the number/antishitposting. Weak times make weak men. Only in times of struggle does greatness shine. Too much dopamine makes you devalue your memories, and causes dementia later on in life, while negativity is a mental workout. You should be thanking us for keeping your mind active and forcing you to use your logical centers to parse our bullshit.

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>>2936171
Since you love number so much here are some more your petty ass.

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2937646

In reality it's neck-and-neck and neither of them come close to Gura

>> No.2937695

>>2937556
based terminally online mentally ill sheep poster

>> No.2937724

>>2937557
Takos need to work on their income reps.

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>>2937646
Here's a more focused chart with only Kiara and Ina

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>>2937646
>>2922226
lmao it's fucking real

>> No.2937865

>>2937724
Weak cope, while deflecting. Ina has more views per day, do not spread lies just to pretend that Kiara does.
>Ina = 162,000 /day
>Kiara = 124,000 /day
You brought it up so at least be accurate.

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Just stop lying. You are so insecure it’s embarrassing.

>> No.2937969

>>2923485
she only wants to be her idea of japanese, which is sad if she still doesn't see the real japanese identity after so many years there
she's not nearly racist enough to be japanese, if she was she'd know that she can never be japanese

>> No.2938081

>>2934186
That's the thing. Kiara is doing quite well for herself in the numbers that actually matter, she makes upper class money and has a cult numbering in the thousands. Her obsession with sub count is pure mental illness.

>> No.2938124

>>2934619
kek can't wait

>> No.2938229

>>2921245
>being a numbersfag

>> No.2938235

>>2938081
The funniest thing about that is she only gets half of her 30% because of taxes. YouTube and Cover get roughly 35% each. She 15% after taxes.

>> No.2938300

>>2938235
It's fucked, but it still ends in her earning six digits from SCs alone, much more from memberships a bit more from shilling, ads and merch. She has nothing to complain about.

>> No.2938309

>>2938235
Out of the $560,000 from Superchats, she get $84,000 after taxes.

>> No.2938513

>>2938235
Youtube get 30%, Cover and the Holos get 35% each.

>> No.2938562

>>2938513
Then it’s $98,000 after taxes

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>>2938513
>Youtube get 30%
Filthy jews put 20 thousand ads in every single video and still take a significant percentage of superchat revenue

>> No.2938621

>>2938309
>$84,000
Haven't they been streaming for over 9 months or so? It's good money, but hardly, "made it" money and most definitely not "I can retire" money.

>> No.2938870

>>2938621
Calli for example starts with
$715,125 - (YT & Cover)
after JP taxes (45%) she gets
$125,147

>> No.2939009

>>2938870
Actually this is wrong I did the math using Kiara’s tax rate of 50%, Japan has a 45% tax rate for Callis income level.

>> No.2939088

>>2938870
And that's not including her albums' earnings.

Does cover take a cut from it?

>> No.2939118

>>2938572
Youtube's big issue is that they let every literal who have channels and videos up for years, so it costs money and they ran at a lost for a while. There are probably hours long streams with two digit views that have sat on YT for years, even if storage is cheap, it adds up.

>> No.2939137

>>2939009
This is the Calli’s real income from Superchats,
$250,293 (before taxes)
$137,661 (after taxes)

>> No.2939178

>>2921245
Good. Fuck Kiara. BItch needs to graduate.

>> No.2939194

>>2938870
>>2939009
I remember Kiara saying that they have to pay for copyright. Also they have to pay for commissions. And in certain cases they foot a certain percentage of the production cost for their merch.
So this isn't exactly pure profit.

>> No.2939203

>>2939088
I believe merch is the one thing they get the largest percentage of because they have to personally pay the cost of manufacturing. They might get 100% or close to it.

>> No.2939272

>>2934555
Kiara should fucking stay away from Ina.

>> No.2939285

>>2939194
I only did the math for Superchats, they also get paid per view. Which is how most YouTube personalities get paid, from advertising. As wells as merch sales which I mentioned the pay to produce but make the most from.

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>>2939194
>production cost for their merch
> they have to personally pay the cost of manufacturing
The source for anyone interested:
https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw

>> No.2939320

>>2939285
I forgot to mention they also get some of the memberships as well, probably the same percentage they get from Superchats.

>> No.2939439

>>2923207
>She's bulbasaur
I guess that explains why nobody likes her.

>> No.2939440

>>2921245
Karmic justice at work. Imagine begging for subs and using bots to reach 900k first, only to lose to someone who didn't have to do either of those things. It feels good to see an example of someone who is genuinely humble, hardworking, and authentic taking the lead over some numberfag menhera bitch.

>> No.2939472

>>2939310
Very interesting. I wonder if it’s been changed recently, since they charge upfront for merch in the Geekjack shop and don’t start production until after the sale period is over. They already have the money months before they even start production, and know exactly how many to produce. That means we pay the cost of the materials and they collect the profits immediately without having to put anything up front.

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>>2937361
>411st
>412nd

>> No.2939621

>>2939472
They still have to actually develop the goods before the sale peroid.

>> No.2939659

>>2939617
What's so hard to figure out Chumbrain, Kiara is winning!

>> No.2939706

>>2934267
eloquently put, anon

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>>2937865
>Pulling out every possible metric imaginable
wasn't kiara supposed to be the number fag here?
You seem pretty obsessed with numbers yourself.
You wont get kiara to graduate like this you know?

>> No.2940763

Can someone explain to me why they watch and enjoy Ina's streams? I've tried watching a bunch of her streams, and I cant watch more than a few minutes.
>weird accent
>low tone of voice
>odd mic quality
>boring to listen to

I find myself constantly switching which HoloEn to watch since they've also got problems, but I seriously forget Ina exists at times.

>> No.2940831

>>2940763
I've had many european friends tell me they use her stream as sleeping aid. Yes, it's a real, and decently big, market.

>> No.2940903

>>2937743
>neck and neck since new year's
hopefully this ends in vigorous lesbian sex

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>>2927806
Dude, wtf? Hiroshima also makes bank from his streams too(?)

>> No.2941636

>>2939659
>Four hundred and elevenst
>Four hundred and twelvend

>> No.2941824

>>2940763
Because you have ADHD and need to watch spastic over the top content? Ina is for people that want to chill out and relax, that's really all there is to it.

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>>2922226

>> No.2942619

>>2939440
>numberfag menhera bitch
don't be so hard on yourself anon

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>>2922226

>> No.2944014

>>2934376
that's a shame. I can't explain it, but there was something about the face of kimono model that made it adorable. This might sound better in my head, but it looks prying mantis like. Like the chin was not as round, if that makes sense; coupled with her bow after she read every super chat. It was to die for. Super adorable.

>> No.2944082

>>2938621
for streaming for only 2 hours a few times a week it is great money. Twitch streamers, stream for 6+ hours every day.

>> No.2944271

>>2940763
I really dislike those fucking odd pauses she takes in between words. Actual autism

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It truly is

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>>2940178
Responding to a numberfag for being wrong, is called a correction. Stay mad that you were caught lying it won’t change shit, KFPtard.

>> No.2944486

>>2921245
No, Ina needs at least a lead of at least 20k before its even close to over. Kiara is always going to do endurance streams and other big streams to raise her numbers while Ina just coasts on her higher natural growth rate.

>> No.2944494

>>2921273
The only thing i've truly appreciated about roboco was her asmr stream with choco.

>> No.2944511

>>2944436
just post the cat gore in the global thread already and get your amok over with.

>> No.2944556

>>2939310
I really don't understand the merchadise situation in Hololive. Cover owns the rights to the character designs, and merch is a great way to make a bunch of money, so shouldn't Cover be in charge of merch research and development including the costs? I keep hearing stuff that implies that the talents are handling most of that and that makes no damn sense to me.

>> No.2944564

bird cucks SEETHING
LMAO

>> No.2944599

>>2928524
how is what you posted not in agreeance with the guy you are replying to, were you replying to the millionaire guy?

>> No.2944642

>>2937744
I do like how they're growth has been basically the same forever with small divergences.
But that jump should be noted was from Kiara's channel literally getting deleted which got a lot of attention.
The weirdest part was that Ina didn't get ahead of Kiara in the period where her channel was shadowbanned for like 1.5 weeks.

>> No.2944654

>>2944556
there's probably a certain amount of official merch cover offers to start, like the basic shirt and sticker. Then all the extra shit like waifu pillows and titty mousepads is up to the girls to handle

>> No.2944673

>>2921245
I used to dislike kiara but she has grown on me, when she isn't trying too hard and is a bit low energy she's kinda likable.
As for Ina her gameplay is a bit whatever, i like her personality but it's not enough to carry uninteresting games, especially really slow ones.

>> No.2944684

>>2944599
Oh you are right
>>2928524 was meant for >>2927225

>> No.2944692

>>2922602
I miss when teamates where 100% convinced that Ame would overtake Mori any day now.

>> No.2944732

>>2944556
Cover doesn't seem to have a lot of money floating around and perhaps Lamy wanted to do some extra merch? It seems to be the way it works.

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>>2933782
i just looked this shit up too, thats actually pretty legit numbers. what the fuck is the content though? i read that hes a "self help entrpreneur" so is he also some of thai lopez scam artist too?

>> No.2944764

>>2944750
he's gotta fund this shithole somehow, arbitrary range bans weren't moving enough 4chan passes

>> No.2944775
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>>2944511
If you think posting this image, in response to this post is comparable to cat gore?
>>2936171
You are as menhera as your retarded shitbird. You just hyperbolize the same bullshit because you can’t think of anything else to say.

>> No.2944777

>>2940763
She's chill and I find the topics she talks about interesting. It's nice to listen to someone whose IQ is actually above 70 and Ina is the only member of holoEN who meets that requirement. With Ina, I always know what I'm going to get when I watch one of her streams and there's some comfort in knowing that.

>> No.2944782 [DELETED] 

>>2938621
Its an upgrade for sure.
Before Hololive she made $900 a month from her job

>> No.2944787

>>2934267
Coco doesn't actually pull high numbers for her solo streams

>> No.2944832

>>2944787
that's because most of coco's chat aren't people.

memes aside she's never going to get normal numbers as long as she has to lock most of her chat to members only

>> No.2944845

>>2944775
you're as mentally ill as the catgore kiara anti if you're seriously this invested in a meaningless "contest" about numbers.
sort your life out, you're obviously not well.

>> No.2944903

>>2931189
>staining your career for a few subs more
guess I'm going the tako route now

>> No.2944919
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>>2944845
I responded to this post
>>2936171
With the correct numbers.
What the fuck is wrong you?

>> No.2944949

>>2934555
That could end very very badly.

>> No.2944961

>>2938621
thats just the money from superchats though. There is still ad money, membership and merch to be added on top of that.

>> No.2944995

>>2944750
Hiromoot chuuba fucking when

>> No.2945011

>>2922003
Japan is a culture of shame and her sub-count is an affront to her family, ancestors and house spirits considering even some Holo ID members that started later managed to get it higher.

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>>2944436
yes? all you are doing is numberfagging in response to numbers, you also seem to think that everyone posting in this thread is the same person somehow?
both kiara and ina will reach a million almost at the same time, they will sing and celebrate the occasion with their fans, they will will congratulate each other be very happy about it.
Yet you will still be here ruminating your bitterness and posting about it.
How pathetic is that?
enjoy your circlejerk while the girls enjoy success you cant even start to dream about.

>> No.2945088

>>2928272
Kiara antis really are mentally deranged, imagine dedicating this much time and effort to someone you hate.

>> No.2945222

>>2937556
People like you, that stir shit for the sake of stirring shit, for the sake of making the board worse for everyone else, are honest to god the lowest class of human being I can think of. You've made this whole website into a cesspool of election tourist "ironic foruchanners" that dont care about shitposting until they're banned for a week because they dont care about the state of the board, and unironic schizophrenics that think they're in good company.
I sincerely hope you have a miserable life ahead of you, you deserve nothing.

>> No.2945230

>>2927667
Kiara is pretty chat heavy "girlfriend simulator" type that always tend to punch above it's weight in subs, I would call her the EN Rushia while Calli is more like Coco. Actually I rember Kiara watching little necromancer rather extensively one day and after that she started doing those microphone kisses to thank her simps just like her it's pretty blatant.

>> No.2945246

>>2938562
>>2938309
>>2938621
Throwing Kiara's presumed 35% cut of her SCs into an austrian tax calculator without writeoffs
196k € income
~85k € taxes
111k income after taxes.
Note that since it's actually dollars she's pay a bit less taxes comparatively.

>> No.2945317

>>2937865
I have literally no clue what playboard does for views/day.
Since socialblade shows their views in the last 30 days as Kiara: 5.2 million, Ina:4.4 million

>> No.2945389

>>2923152
and you don't have problem with that shitty model? I mean Vshojo is all over the place but she is close to the bottom together with Hime in this regard.

>> No.2945518

>>2940763
She reminds me of my aspie friends from my highschool otaku meetups.
Its kind of sad that the only person in hololive* that has her same experience in mid-2000s otaku lore is Kiara and they have polar opposite personalities, though I dont doubt they talk normally behind the scenes when both can drop their respective keyfabes and can talk about watching "angel beats episode 3 sub espanol part 1/4" on youtube at 3am on a tuesday in middle school.

*Yes FBK, RBC and marine are "more otaku" than both of them but japanese native otaku culture and westerner otaku culture have literally nothing to do with eachother when one has comiket obscure doujins as a reasonable highschool hobby and the other didnt get decent quality seasonal rips until 2014.
Also the MCU is considered genuine niche otaku culture in Japan, hardly the same scene.

>> No.2945646

>>2928092
>cant break 100k views and averages 3k concurrent viewers
>pulverizes 90% of the roster in SC
Literally the strongest holo, what the fuck. If she had 10k views (god forbid, pekora/gura numbers), she'd be streaming from the penthouse in Dubai.

>> No.2945788

>>2937557
>3 collabs against a 3 minute cover and a promoted stream
Ina doesnt deserve you faggots.

>> No.2945797

>>2944949
>Not wanting things to end very very badly
lol fag. The only point of Kiara threads is to build anticipation for when she inevitably joins the ranks of Aloe and Chris.

>> No.2945913

>>2944919
what site is this.

>> No.2945968

>>2945913
4channel

>> No.2946059

>>2945646
Actually 7 minute accoustic cover.

>> No.2946287

>>2921297
Flare is not popular because she is black

>> No.2946448

>>2921245
Numbers faggotry is a sure sign of mental illness

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>>2945797
>The only point of Kiara threads is to build anticipation
So you enjoy being blueballed forever? Kiara antis are also cuckfaggots, why this doesn't surprise me at all?

>> No.2949203 [DELETED] 

I just hope both teams have fun :)

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>>2937744
>>2937743
I've been saying this for fucking months, literally the only reason they're so close is Kiara had a pity party "redebut" from her channel getting nuked which got a ton of subs, maybe 15k. Whether those were in part real or from people making burner accounts to sub on to keep on the joke/try to support her, I dunno.

Regardless between that and doing several marathon singing streams she's in essence artificially boosted herself at least 20-30k. And has had original songs and collabs out the ass etc, she tries so hard and I must say, that is admirable. Yet despite all that Ina still pulls ahead just by being a lazy tako. Imagine if Ina tried, or if Kiara didn't try and was still weighed down by the fucking horrible design/voice/passive-aggressive, transparently-artificially-happy attitude. It would have been a mogging.

For people saying the subs don't matter to chuubas, that is honestly a case-by-case basis, it DOES matter to some, but not to all. Mel for example always had this as a side-gig and had (still has I think) a regular job. Joined Holo mostly to be a niche ASMR streamer and that was banished, then she herself got banned, troubles with her manager etc on top of cratering in new subs/SCs etc. Would she have had reasonable grounds to quit? Definitely. Did she? Nope. She said she had considered it but her fans begged her to stay so she didn't. Similarly, Aki had just said in Holotalk that maybe she would have quit if she didn't get a second wind of support from overseas fans. So she hadn't really discussed it but it seems her position definitely dug into her conscience. Watame is also a numberfag FYI, as is Pekora and a number of others.

Holos themselves are in some cases the ultimate numberfags. It is not irrational to notice obvious, public statistics and compare. That naturally leads to "hmm why is this one popular/not popular" or "do I think these ones deserve it or not" etc. If you're a thoughtful fan who dwells on this subject, IT WILL come up. I don't think it's worth dwelling on as the all-consuming thing but it is at least something to factor. You want your oshi to be successful and be on the incline and will worry when she's declining. That's natural. The question is whether you think that success comes at the cost of other oshis or not.

>> No.2949726

>>2923067
also from the sankisei and generally most of hololive, Flare feels like someon i could TRUST, maybe even blindly, her character comes through as strong and reliable, people throw "friend" around Fubuki because of a meme but I legit think her and Flare are actual friend material

>> No.2949976

>>2921297
Roboco is very calm and this can be said like "lol she's a robot of course she is" but also can be looked at as just not very personable. That and she is rather niche with Apex spam, and her 3D model is matching in being stiff and unemotional - so the overall package is too unengaging I think.

Frankly if you see her overall design she looks weird with the robot legs and oddly-out-of-place erotic exposed legs too, makes you go like "lol ok then" if you see it out of curiosity unless you are into chicken claw robot feet. She always will have that mandatory respect for being a trailblazer for Cover but yeah she could stand a makeover probably more than anyone else. Miko got one without even really needing it; she had gotten popular by the time it came along. Flare didn't super-strongly need one but it couldn't hurt, so it made sense for her and helped a fair bit I think. So RBC is practically overdue for it I think. Kiara could use simply a new outfit more than anything, a chance to change the hair/ditch the hats without it looking odd, and overall become less corny-looking.

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>>2949666
>I've been saying this for fucking months
Impressive self admission, But for what purpose? what did you think you would achieve by repeating your "conclusions" for so long?

>> No.2950291

>>2950204
Let me spell it out for you as you misunderstand, I've not been trying to hide it as I am not one of these guys constantly pushing this subs war shit - because I've known, it's a farce to compare due to Kiara's circumstances.

Similarly citing SC income also doesn't mean a lot. A couple tryhard throwing thousands her way doesn't make her more liked or popular, it just means she has the most whales. Same shit for Rushia and Coco. VOD views are the real measuring stick IMO if you just want a popularity contest. Live viewers day-to-day don't matter a lot because sometimes they'll air in a way to split up viewership or are playing a buff/debuff game - but I'd look at them over months-long trends as maybe meaning something.

>> No.2950695

>>2950291
what's the point then? because you seem to be implying nothing actually matters and i would be inclined to agree if wasn't for the fact that you as you said you have been talking about this for months

>> No.2951014

>>2921297
>>2921355
nah, its because their designs suck. Robocco has an ass model, and it needs to be updated to a live 2d similar to the other girls--- I think because she uses her 3-d model during her streams or something, it looks off compared to the other girls. Flare's design sucks because she has elf ears, which is an immediate filter.

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>>2921245
It's looking officially over.
Ina is just too consistent for Kiara

>> No.2951798

>>2934555
I'll forever seethe myself and then neck myself

>> No.2952111

>>2951169
I like ina she deserve the 1m subs

>> No.2952114

>>2951169
As long as chicken remains a numberfag, there will be a neverending cycle of "KARAOKE UNTIL 9X0K" -> boosting herself with bots and dead subs -> YT deleting the bot subs -> Ina pulling ahead until 1mil.

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>>2952114
>Kiara decides it isn't too early to do a 1m karaoke
>sings until her voice gives out completely, gets like 5k subs out of it
>has to take a 2 week break to recover and falls behind further because of it

>> No.2952759

>>2952114
>>2952173
based schizos, what happens next in that fanfiction you guys are writing?

>> No.2954483

>>2952759
I have sex with the 3rd gen jps while playing saxophone in one hand and killing commies with an m14 in my right hand

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