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>Could've been the Gura of Council
>Throws it all away to saviorfag some Homos
Why is she like this? Why even bother joining Hololive just to sabotage yourself and spend your career under 5k ccv.

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>>29044431
Cool post OP.
My oshi loves her so that's all I care about

>> No.29044652

I don't care. She has good relations with IRyS and Mumei.
And that's why I like the rat.

>> No.29044751

>>29044652
Loser mentality. Pekora crawls over the dead bodies of her rivals to be the best. Vtubing isn't about making friends it's about getting big numbers and that's why Pekora is queen and Baelz is a nobody.

>> No.29044763

>>29044431
I don't know, OP. But I'm definitely avoiding her from now on.

>> No.29044924

If she brings them up on the CHaD Cast I'll think less of her but if she knows to keep it separate then I don't give a shit what she does in her free time.

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>>29044751
Cool story. I will still love the rat and mating press her if given the opportunity

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she got to talk with her oshi 1 on 1 on stream and legitimately have fun and laugh together
you will never ever do the same

>> No.29045095

>>29044431
>Why even bother joining Hololive just to sabotage yourself and spend your career under 5k ccv.
Won't happen.
Zeta collaborated with a male and her.
Kobo collaborated with a male.
Their audience is more toxic because of the sea audience. Nothing happened. Infact, their ccv has been inclining

>> No.29045157

>>29044431
Being Mori's sidekick is a bigger debuff than collabing with homos.

>> No.29045195

>>29044431
I like both Bae and Gura, but they are very different what the fuck are you smoking

>> No.29045218

>>29044431
Bae was never going to be the “Gura of Council”, stop making shit up just to get an easy jab at Hololive

>> No.29045235

>>29044924
Ollie forced them into the Among Us collab despite them having literally nothing to do with it. Considering Mori is on the CHAD cast I don't think there's any hope that they won't be discussed. Going to be mega awkward for Irys.

>> No.29045303

>>29045095
Doesn't bother me if the girls collab with the guys every now and again. The issue is when it gets to Niji levels of constant collabs. I just want to watch cute girls doing cute things.

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>>29045095
>Won't happen.
What do you mean? It already has

>> No.29045403

>>29044431
>Bae
>Gura of council
Hahahahahaha she was never charismatic enough for that even if the males didn't existed

>> No.29045432

>>29044751
>I have a numberfag mentality

>> No.29045443

>>29044751
You need failures to feed the big guys and girls.

>> No.29045515

>>29045095
The ID fanbase never cared about stuff like that, when EN viewers say stuff like "I'm only here for the entertainment" they are just being homobeggars, when ID viewers say it they are telling the truth

>> No.29045525

>>29044431
i mean, you guys are giving her a shit ton of money. She is paying her collage and will be happier in the future. While sucking the guy´s cock. Still winning

>> No.29045626

>>29045515
90% of ID viewers are greynames though. Have you seen Kobos chat?

>> No.29045647

>>29044924
of course she'll bring them up, it's bae we're talking about here
also axel is an aussie so he and bae are definitely gonna meet up at some point and he'll mating press her, you know bae was getting wet just thinking about it when watching the debut

>> No.29045659

>>29044431
Worst Council member after Sana graduate

>> No.29045898

Sana rather graduate then to do future collab with holostars. She is number one is council now.

>> No.29045964

>>29044924
i mean... it is going to happen. I feel bad for irys already, but that is the problem of being friends with those 2. They dont really care about what you want. They just want to force their stuff.

>> No.29045989

>>29045647
Bae has never ever brought up a homo in front of other holos before
I will give you an ass-ripping grudgepost if it doesn't happen

>> No.29046092

>>29045647
bae was forcing Apex streams just for this moment. It is so easy to read her.
And she was pretending she did not know him during the live... they totally know each other already.

>> No.29046102

>>29044431
Bae is just a really sweet girl who wants to support people she enjoys, she also doesn't care about numbers, if she did OBVIOUSLY she wouldn't be doing any of this
Numberfags get the rope

>> No.29046152

>>29045364
This made me check, because I remember people talking about the rats work ethic and streaming a ton when she started which people respected, and so I looked at her channel.
She's streamed ten times in the last month? What?

>> No.29046201

>>29045989
Both Bae and Mori are notorious Homo saviorfags. If they actually restrain themselves and don't mention them on the Chad cast I'll kneel but I think you're being overly optimistic.

>> No.29046211

>>29045303
I can understand that. It won't happen though. Hololive is not Nijisanji. always remember that

>> No.29046210

>>29046152
She WAS streaming alot until she got stuck in travelling hell and couldn't stream during it for many days, still managed to squeeze in like 5 streams

>> No.29046224

>>29046152
expect daily streams with males in the near future

>> No.29046233

>>29045989
I don't know anon, she hangs out with Mori pretty often, and stupidity is contagious. We'll have to wait

>> No.29046246

>>29046152
she flew over to US to physically meet council genmates, myth and visit AX you dumb fuck.

>> No.29046262

>>29045989
she talked about roberu with irys while playing apex.

>> No.29046283

>>29046201
>and Mori
She's barely streamed with Rikka, and none of the others. She's just a bog-standard whore anon.

>> No.29046302

>>29046152
>She's streamed ten times in the last month? What?
she took a break to do Offcollab, then Smashcon

>> No.29046333

>>29046262
Winning Son gets a pass.

>> No.29046354

>>29046246
>you dumb fuck
You think I keep track of en at all? lmao
That's why I was asking in the first place, dumbo.

>> No.29046375

>>29046102
you are not wrong. but she is really forcing things up for this new Aussie dude... i would not be impressed for Nyaners 2 in the future

>> No.29046418

>>29045647
>>29046092
Anon.... atleast capitalize the beginning of your sentences if you want to samefag and not get caught

>> No.29046482

>>29045303
Bae rarely collabs with males and rarely brings them up even. In fact, not even Ollie does that.

>> No.29046488

>>29046283
She's replied to more Homo tweets in the past 48 hours than she has the rest of Hololive entirely for the past 12 months. She's also been in the chat for every single debut, mentioning how excited she is to talk to them on discord. Who do you think you're fooling here?

>> No.29046524

>>29046354
you don't even have to keep track of all of them. you'd knew if you follow at least 1 council because they all talked about bae's visit. but you apparently didn't, so why are you in this thread the first place faggot??

>> No.29046531

>>29044431
>Could've been the Gura of Council
They have a Gura clone already, and her name is Mumei

>> No.29046533

>>29046418
omg i got caught! i am going to jail :O

>> No.29046573

>>29046482
Didn't Baelz do a watchalong of the JP Homo concert? She's collabed with Roberu about 4 times now and shills them a lot. Who in Hololive EN interacts with the Stars more than Baelz?

>> No.29046572

>>29046152
Anon look at the total number of streams not the ones in the past month bae is 30 streams in front of the next closest council member and is still a student on top of that the others are just lazy

>> No.29046598

>>29044751
>Vtubing isn't about making friends it's about getting big numbers
ok newfag

>> No.29046605

>>29046488
The en ones. Not the jps, who if she was a real savior fag as you claim she'd be all over. She has no language barrier with the en ones, so she's all over those. As I said, bog-standard behavior for a whore.

>> No.29046615

>>29046524
not even council, all of myth also talked of bae's international visit to us lolol

>> No.29046621

>>29046488
dude she had a japanese boyfriend while pretending to work for 3 jobs. Apparently hand jobs and blow jobs were more important than hololive.

>> No.29046628

>>29046573
Oh right, 5 collabs in 6 months
How is that constant again? you're worried about constant collabs right?

>> No.29046653

Doesn't Bae get a ton of superchats?

>> No.29046670

>>29046524
I don't watch en, duh.
>why are you in this thread
to piss you off lol

>> No.29046677

>>29046573
Wasn't that Ollie? Two times even iirc.

>> No.29046687

>>29045898
Fuck off back to 5ch, nippoid

>> No.29046704

>>29046653
Yeah she does, set expectations early in her debut so people wouldn't feel betrayed later on

>> No.29046734

>>29046677
Ollie was with her. They did it together. Ollie and Baelz are partners when it comes to shilling the homos.

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>>29046418

>> No.29046804

>>29046677
Both did it was covers attempt at a niji debut

>> No.29046806

>>29044431
What are you talking about, she gets mad when too much skin is on screen or a Loli appears, her reactions are exaggerated and didn't even use her best voice, worst council, even before Sana's graduation, her model is pure sex tho.

>> No.29046829

>>29046653
2nd highest in council behind kronii

>> No.29046835

>>29046653
Only because her superchat catchphrase is so funny

>> No.29046875

>>29046806
>worst council
>model is pure sex tho
I... I can't handle this much facts, anon. My knees compel me to kneel...

>> No.29046879

>>29046102
>if she did OBVIOUSLY she wouldn't be doing any of this
I think she's just naive and swallowed the same bullshit Ollie did where twitter trannies claim that male collabs don't matter. Nyanners viewership halved after she got a boyfriend, fucking Nyanners.

>> No.29047010

>>29046879
>Nyanners viewership halved after she got a boyfriend, fucking Nyanners.
It was fucking surreal to see how much her subscriptions and viewers dropped after the boyfriend reveal. For all the shouting they do they turned out to unicorns themselves.

>> No.29047136

>>29046879
She knows anon, she just doesn't care about numbers
She cosntantly streams in different timezones, did a JP week when half of her audience is Korean and english, also overlaps Gura all the time
She literally doesn't care

>> No.29047216

>>29046879
Maybe Bae doesn't think the marginal increase in superchat revenue is worth needing to more closely watch what you post or say.
Also, I don't think Bae would beat Kronii even if she did GFE.

>> No.29047620

>s-she doesn't care about number
Shouldn't graduate from her old agency then.

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Such a waste of a model

>> No.29047810

Numbers are an indicator of the quality of the content you put out. Saying Baelz doesn't care about numbers is equivalent to saying she doesn't care about making good content. Hololive is not her personal soapbox to push for male collabs.

>> No.29047831

Didn't she get noticeably upset when she saw she was the least liked of her gen? Like when Kronii showed her up in that minecraft stream and she was visibly upset by it? I think she cares about numbers, she just accepted she's the speedbump of her gen and gave up, hence why she just does tons of collabs with the stars and generally threw standards out the window.

>> No.29047882

>>29044431
Stop bitching about men. If your mother hadn't sucked dick and let some jackass nut inside of her pussy your faggot ass cry baby would not be here bitching. If anyone you should be angry at is your mom for having unprotected sex with men and giving birth to you so you can witness other men do things you wish you could.

>> No.29047884

>>29047831
When the going gets tough the rat gives up

>> No.29047927

>>29047831
That was debut week anon, it had nothing to do with njumbers, her chat was being an ass to her

>> No.29047949

>>29047882
Fuck off Mori

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>> No.29048043

>>29044431
Nah, you can fuck off with your numberfaggotry
Numberfags deserve the rope, nothing else

>> No.29048080

there's caring about numbers and there's caring about the quality of your content. You can get numbers by catering to the lowest common denominator while lowering the quality of your content

>> No.29048113

>>29047810
>Numbers are an indicator of the quality of the content you put out
You can't be this retarded can you.

>> No.29048151

>>29047831
Tbh the whole kroni thing was chat being assholes. And kroni encouraging it until she saw the joke went to far. Baelz obviously is not appreciate it. She should leave to vshojo and host her own talk shows with ironmouse. Fuck hololive and the ingrates who think they're funny.

>> No.29048212

>Having viewers means you're bad
You guys...

>> No.29048258

>>29047949
The fuck this has to do with mori you fucking faggot. Rent free

>> No.29048261

>>29047810
Oh yeah man, I love tierlists and Minecraft streams man
Fuck interesting visual novels like va-11halla even if they get shit numbers, minecraft it is

>> No.29048265

>>29047136
if i remember right in a previous members stream she said she does not care about numbers but she does care about feedback.

dont think she would want her own fans turn on her or she wouldnt talk to her fans like 6 year olds in that one time she mentioned tempus

>> No.29048284

>>29048113
>Best entertainers in Hololive get the best numbers
Seems solid to me

>> No.29048290

>>29048212
are you really going to act this dense?

>> No.29048297

>>29047620
It's about the cost of the numbers.
Would you take a 5% pay cut to never have to attend a meeting ever again at work?
I probably would, but other people might not.

>> No.29048352

>>29047010
>turned into
The average Twitch streamer fan is unironically more parasocial than the average Hololive fan, and that’s Vshojo’s target demographic.

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>>29048261
>Fuck interesting visual novels like va-11halla
I'd take Miko playing Minecraft over Mori playing vallhalla any day of the week

>> No.29048453

>>29046806
her mom is a true genius. her model is next level

>> No.29048500

Why is it only EN that gets treated like this.
JPs didn't have to deal with all of this when Uproar debuted and JP has many more members too.
This is unironically starting to feel like Niji lite.
There was no reason to hold a watch along on the Holo EN channel for this.

>> No.29048601

>>29048500
It's not Niji until male collabs become frequent, settle down now

>> No.29048609

>>29048417
Miko is a shell of her former self. Her peak was during that gta nigger moment. Now she's a "lesbian" who wears a new skimp lewd outfit to attract thirst buckets (males).

>> No.29048672

>>29048417
>Minecraft
Yeah no thanks

>> No.29048719

>>29048601
I said Niji lite, I don't think we'll ever reach that level.
There is clearly a difference between how EN and JP have been treated though.
Stars EN is clearly being pushed much more closely to Holo EN than Stars and Holo JP.

>> No.29048728

>>29048500
Progressivism, anon. High probability that EN staff already drank the koolaid. Desegregating the branches is their way of fighting "sexism". These fucking woke shits plant themselves into every hobby and fandom and ruin it from the inside. Just take a look at gaming, comics, and movies.

>> No.29048752

>>29048719
Blame that on Omega anon, it's not Bae's fault

>> No.29048783

>>29044431
>could've been the gura of council

No, if she was she would have risen on her own. She has literally like 1/10th the level of charm Gura does... if that.

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>>29048500
Back when the jp homos debuted in 2019 cover actually supported the separation. The norm was already established by the time later gens like Uproar came out.
Unfortunately, EN seems to have a different norm.

>> No.29048817

>>29048728
We had a leaker here before who revealed that HoloEN staff have shit like tranny flags and pronouns in their twitter bios. You have no idea how bad it is behind the scenes. There is a very good chance the talents are being pressured not to ignore the homos.

>> No.29048819

>>29048500
Blame EN management, bet JP uppers just nodding at their bullshit.

>> No.29048882

>>29048500
Don't you faggots cry all the time about collab beggars using:
>Cover is not forcing anybody, if the girls don't want to collab then they won't collab, get over it homobeggar.
as an argument?

What happened to that?
The girls that want to collab (Bae, Mori, Ollie, Kobo and some of the rest of HoloIDthat collab with the Stars) will collab with Tempus.
The girls that don't want to collab (most of HoloEN and the rest of HoloID) won't.
What's the problem?

>> No.29048915

>>29048817
Yeah, I remember that post. I regret not saving it somewhere. But it doesn't surprise me.

>> No.29048998

>>29048783
Nobody will ever be the gura of anything.

Gura lucked out because westerners had nothing to do during the pandemic so of course her numbers are that high. But now her last off collab reached 50k live viewers irrc while her subcount is 4 millions. There's deadsubs and botted subs there anyone saying different isba shameless fucking liar.

>> No.29049008

>>29044751
Pekora needs friends so badly that she bought a monkey.

>> No.29049010

>>29048719
because Yagoo wants stars to be successful. He is their biggest supporter.
JP Stars have always lagged behind and didn't really work out in the way that he hoped, so now he's attempting EN and going all out for it hoping it will catch on.

>> No.29049017

>>29044924
>inb4 IRyS is the one who brings them up

>> No.29049110

>>29048792
Wtf is this translation kek.

>> No.29049130

>>29048882
In case you weren't paying attention, this isn't just the girls making these decisions. Management is in on it too.
Also, all of these girls knew what they were getting into by joining Hololive. They knew people would want a separation.
They can do whatever they like behind the scenes but what they do publicly is for people to see.
The large majority either do not want or do not care about male collabs and interaction so who is this supposed to be appealing to?

>> No.29049147

>>29048817
>>29048915
If someone could link this post that remembers it/has it saved I'd appreciate it, I must have missed it somehow.

>> No.29049156

>>29049017
She was actually the first one to bring up Roberu last time, to tease Bae

>> No.29049207

Is anybody in this thread a legal adult?

>> No.29049283

>>29048817
>Calling them homos when they probably get more pussy than you do and will most likely fuck your oshi. Cope.

>> No.29049330

>>29048500
You people are fucking mentally deranged. How in the flying fuck did it get to the point that not being a stuck up piece of shit and completely ignoring coworkers based on gender became "woke" and progressive. You don't have to watch any of this shit. The girls that want to collab will. The ones that don't won't. You fucks even act like acknowledging their existence in front of other girls is some huge fucking sin, you're fucking insane.

>>29048817
>actually believing random retards on here.
No wonder you fucks are so mentally deficient. You'll believe any fucking narrative that supports your autistic hatred of anime men.

>>29049130
Holostars fans apparently. It hasn't negatively effected Ollie or Bae and it hasn't negativly effected the EN males, may have even helped them a bit.

>this isn't just the girls making these decisions. Management is in on it too.
Where's your fucking source? The "leak"? fuck off you retard.

>> No.29049360

>>29048882
The problem is the fans of the girls who do want to collab with tempus think they're the girls husbands.

>> No.29049561

>>29048609
I never thought Miko of all people would fall to such levels. I guess spamming collabs and trying to milk WWE wasn't working out for her so she had to resort to attracting coomers too. She must be really desperate to remain relevant. The absolute state.

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>>29049130
You mean the minority of faggots who complains in places like 2ch 4ch and 5ch are the ones seething over men. Like amelia said. Keep your money and spend it on something that makes you happy. And improve yourself.

>> No.29049594

>>29044751
Based nousagi
Unfortunately most holoENs seem to treat vtubing as a hobby while JPs treat it as a job

>> No.29049602

You could just look at her streams you know. The reason she's not as popular is because her content is usually just not as interesting, and recently it's been pretty infrequent too.

When she did her daily streams in February, she did novel stream ideas combined with consistent schedules and inclined. Too bad she couldn't keep that consistency due to college, room renovations, and taking in a stray cat that required extensive care. She's had multiple burnouts between February and now, but I'm confident she'll incline when she can focus on solely Hololive again.

>> No.29049642

>>29049008
Pekora is the Michael Jackson of Vtubers

>> No.29049740

>>29049330
Are you high right now? Management is obviously in on it because there were 2 watch alongs on the official Hololive EN channel.
That wouldn't happen if management didn't facilitate it.
To another of your points, there's a difference between acknowledging your co workers and actively gushing about them on Twitter.
You're also forgetting that this is supposed to be for the audience, they don't have to do all this publicly they could do it in private.

>> No.29049745

Baelz is sweet, like your friend's girlfriend you'd bang behind his back but would never want to steal away.

>> No.29049828

>>29049602
Bae needs to do something like Febaery again where she does fun streams, she needs to also find a consistent timeslot and stop overlapping Gura/or Kronii

>> No.29049928

>>29049582
Or you could look at cross chatters.
Even between Niji EN male and female members it's incredibly low. It would be even lower too if fans of the guys didn't jump chats when there is no male POV.
That improve yourself line was also incredibly idiotic in that context. Again, most of the people watching them are in it for CGDCT.
Would you tell someone to improve themself just because they preferred something like K-ON to Haruhi? They're different genres, it's a personal taste and therefore subjective.

>> No.29049950

>>29049828
Agreed. Consistency and interesting streams are key. Febaery was the high-point of her career and I'm confident she can pull it off again.

>> No.29049953

>>29044431
>couldve been the Gura of COuncil
By what fucking metric? Gura has the voice of an angel and Bae's makes people want to mouthrape her so they dont need to hear her stupid BRUH or OH MAH GAW anymore

>> No.29049990

>>29044431
Because that's the reason she got hired in the first place. A collab instigator, to bad in stead of more JP collab like Kiara, she choose to focus more on the homo. Though without the willing to collab with male i bet she won't get picked in the first place cuz she's the worst streamer in council ( yes even below Sana after her showing last few week)

>> No.29050065

>>29049990
Let's not get cocky, Sana has graduation buff going right now
Bae is still Kiara/Ame tier even though she debuffs herself

>> No.29050116

>>29049990
She's done 5(?) collabs with stars, and wasn't the one to initiate the collab for any of them though? Compare that to her dozens of Hololive JP collabs.

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>>29049828
>Overlapping Gura

How can one overlap streams that do not exist?

>> No.29050193

>>29050126
Oh you'd be surprised anon

>> No.29050262

>>29050065
I'm not talking about number though. And even with number, her average is below Sana in Sana's birthday month (average not median). Her work ethic is amazing and but damm she's bad.

>> No.29050319

>>29049602
Baelz is obviously not a streamer. And started playing games in the the recent years. I remember that jumpking stream where calli called her and asked her what was a her favorite game baelz couldn't come up with anything until she gave the generic super mario response 2 minutes later.

Baelz is more of a karaokee tiktok girl. But she's trying the problem is I don't think she's interested with games given to her. Let her play any karaokee games and she'll shine on those the rest is just her forcing herself. Plus i hate how she always stalls for like 5 minutes between areas her re village stream annoyed me for that reason. Go into room stall go to the next room stall and that's how it all went.

>> No.29050475

>>29049602
I think it's been agreed already in the numbers thread that it's bad decision making for her when it comes to numbers such as timezones, overlaps, lack of flexibility, lack of interesting streams and weird breaks.

She literally needs to use her brain, work smart, not hard
Look at Fauna for example, she used to be a 5k shitter until she found a timeslot for herself with no overlaps and stuck to it for months until she built a loyal fanbase

>> No.29050530

>>29044751
this mentality is wasted on a nobody on 4chan that jerks off over someone elses success
go do something

>> No.29050586

>>29049950
Yeah Bae got screwed over because of sickness, injuries, school, and cats. When she's on a roll she produces a lot of good content. I don't think anything is weighing her down now so she has the potential to return to Febaerary form soon.

The hours is a legitimate criticism though. She already has inconsistent times, but even when she gets her consistent hours it gets screwed over by DST for the NA viewers. For JST the change in DST only shifts things for 1 hour but for AEST the shift is 2 hours which I think is a significant change. Thankfully she also has a big chunk of gooks watching her, but I feel like a lot of growth is from the NA crowd.

>> No.29050606

>>29050262
Her numbers are good enough for what kind of content she streams and how much she overlaps. If Mumei was streaming visual novels in Kronii's timeslot she wouldn't get any viewers either.

>> No.29050659

>>29044431
Why not? It makes you seethe, so I'm ok with that.

>> No.29050726

>>29044567
Based

>> No.29050819

>>29044751
In the end only King can compete with the rabbit, Aqua, Gura, Salome all of them become irrelevant.

>> No.29050874

>>29050475
Fauna is the best streamer/talker in council though. Her channel got very few tourist but those who come to her just won't leave.

>> No.29050928

Also how can anybody be a fan of kroni.. Her voice is so boring and is like she's not showing any enthusiasm to stream. Plus she's a dumbass smokes weed and can't even hold her high enough so then she slur her words like she's drunk on tequila rose. If you're going smoke weed don't sound like a fucking crackhead kroni you giving potheads like me a bad name.

>> No.29050946

>>29050874
I know, that doesn't take away from the fact that her ccv wasn't that good for like 6 months. She earned it through smart and consistent work

>> No.29051074

>>29050928
Life was/is beating her up anon. Give her more time she's getting better.

>> No.29051180

>>29049147
>>28380210

>> No.29051323

>>29050928
If you don't enjoy Kronii's voice, I'm happy to tell you that Hololive is known for having talents with a wide array of quite unique voices. You not liking her voice is ok! There's quite a lot of people who really like it though.

>> No.29051411

>>29046653
Among council? Sure. However dumb it may sound to send your money to Bae at least you're not buying condoms for her bf like is the case with rest of the council.

>> No.29051532

>>29044431
>Could've been the Gura of Council
The whole fucking core of this post is pants on head retarded. Bae could never be Gura tier even if she skinned her and wore her like a kigurumi

>> No.29051751

>>29051180
Oh that one, isn't that one disproved already? Most of the stuff said in the OP doesn't match up. Thank you for the link though kind-anon.

>> No.29051862

>>29044431
HER OSHI IS ROBERU, OF COURSE SHE SUPPORTS THE STARS. HOW CAN YOU FAGGOTS BE THIS RETARDED?!

>> No.29051987

its sad to see bae fall off like this regardless of the whole male situation

her karaoke streams were my favorite and even that fell from grace on her recent unarchived members stream. she was completely unprepared and barely put any effort to it, it just felt like she was there to fill a quota. she didnt even have a song list ready and had to ask chat for ideas.

real shame considering how much she cared about her fans early on. all these recent collabs make her feel more distant and less connected with her fanbase now.

>> No.29052097

>>29051987
Give her time. She's had a lot on her plate the past few months.

>> No.29052148

>>29051987
Bae always has a song list for archived karaoke, she never does song lists for unarchived karaokes which she does for fun, call back to her late night drunk karaoke.

>> No.29053137

>>29044431
>gura of council
not with that voice and weak banter

>> No.29053233

>>29049008
That's pretty harsh on Moona

>> No.29053470

>>29052097
i get that, but it dosnt feel like its going to get any better. feels like she prioritizes hanging with her senpais now over caring about her fans.
and to be clear im not saying shes not allowed to do that, shes free to do whatever she wants.
it just sucks as a fan to drop your favorite after liking their content for so long.

>> No.29054598

>>29053470
It will get better, Bae's just been busy dealing with so much other stuff she hasn't really had the time to sit down and do her usual content. Once things cool down she'll get back into the usual swing of things.

>> No.29054754 [DELETED] 

>>29053470
I feel like a lot of EN only joined to hang out with their senpai, like "being a holo" was the end goal and now they've achieved that.

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