Serious talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lfl_vFV3BE

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Anonymous Sat Jul 23 20:54:11 2022 No.28993946 [Reply] [Original]

Serious talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lfl_vFV3BE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 20:55:21 2022 No.28994004 >in free hours the holostars are debu-ting I want to fuck some austrian pussy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 20:55:55 2022 No.28994034 >>28994004 Based Me too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 20:56:03 2022 No.28994042 >You should watch them because they work for my company >But I'm not fucking watching their debuts >And I'm never fucking collabing with them BASED?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:00:28 2022 No.28994284 >>28993946 OP, you are not going to get a favorable reaction in /vt/

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:02:34 2022 No.28994416

>>28994042
She is a genius, she gaslight the homobeggar so they don't bother her and her fanbase of gigachad, and tell us what actually do the next day with her video.
Discret enought so the twittard will never connect the dot cause they anyway don't watch her, but convey the message to her fanbase. Orange woman good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:05:07 2022 No.28994566 >>28993946 >Wants them to succeed simply because they're in Hololive >Despite that, doesn't want anything to do with them >Doesn't watch their debuts Yeah, I'm thinking based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:05:13 2022 No.28994571 >>28994042 Being fair i wouldn't watch them either if I had to stay awake until 5 AM or so. As always Kiara was gave by far the most honest response

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:06:49 2022 No.28994667 >>28993946 orange woman good

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:08:57 2022 No.28994785 >>28993946 Honestly, though. Representing the brand she loves while being honest about not wanting to watch them is honestly the most based shit imaginable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:09:02 2022 No.28994790 >>28994004 fpbp >>28994034 me three

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:09:04 2022 No.28994794

>>28994566
Kiara hard idol beliefs know that most of her fans would prefer if she didn't Collab with guys, plus she wouldn't risk anything the fanbase she worked so hard to maintain. But at the same time she knows some people will bring up the topic of collabing to her every now and then so might as well rip the band-aid off while it's early.
Good response out of her overall.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:16:35 2022 No.28995272 >>28993946 based, I stayed up until 5 AM to watch debuts, I will always support Kiara's company

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:19:08 2022 No.28995438 Lots of people forgetting that she had problems staying up for Council and it fucked her in the ass last time. As bad as she's been at it she is taking her health slightly more seriously. Now if only she would go back to the gym or yoga again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:21:20 2022 No.28995570 File: 88 KB, 292x379, 1648871596763.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28994004 shes mine

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:21:40 2022 No.28995596 >>28995438 >Now if only she would go back to the gym or yoga again. never cheese cake and ice cream love!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:22:42 2022 No.28995658 >>28994004 Reine, it's the middle of the night over there. Go to bed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:23:54 2022 No.28995735 >>28995438 Only way that will happen is if Reine moves in and drags her to the gym kicking and screaming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:26:57 2022 No.28995931 >>28994004 What is Austrian pussy like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:30:05 2022 No.28996133 Kiara 90% of kfp are libtard bugmen that would probably enjoy being cucked. I feel like she made this an issue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:31:18 2022 No.28996209 >>28996133 No that's deadbeats. Kiara has a shitload of Korean viewers and their views on women are based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:34:51 2022 No.28996411 File: 50 KB, 680x907, rrat grabbed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Holo Patriotism Kiara is one of the tribalchads that post shit like "another glorious day on the hololive board"

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:34:58 2022 No.28996418

But it's also really surprising to hear that Kiara thinks collab initiations should also come from the girls' side as well. It shows she's thought quite a bit about things from their perspective and how tied their hands will be as well given the usual stigma within HoloPro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:35:03 2022 No.28996424 File: 136 KB, 280x360, 1654978479236.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28996133 There's still a considerable percent of us who are borderline Nazis and lurk on /pol/, so everything is balanced. Heil Kisses btw

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:36:16 2022 No.28996496

It doesn't even make sense for the girls to tell their viewers to go watch the guys. Female and male vtubers have different audiences by design, shilling the guys to a male audience that just wants to look at cute anime girls isn't gonna help them, if anything it will generate antis. They should be left alone to find their own audience, and if they want to leech off anyone the best target is Nijimales since that's the pie they want a slice of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:36:18 2022 No.28996500 >>28996133 >>28996209 lmfao. Imagine being kiara and reading this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:38:10 2022 No.28996583 >>28996418 Pretty much. If she wasn't as tired as she was the pretend comment probally would of been dealt with longer and harsher. I think its less she thinks its should be but it's gonna be like that unforunately.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:38:38 2022 No.28996612

>>28993946
I don't know what you're seeing and hearing OP to me it sounds like she just chewed someone out for saying they shouldn't exist and rightfully so they don't belong near the hololive girls. All kiara sed is she doesn't have any current collabs in mind and she doesn't want to not support them as a gen 1 and wants them to be a success in her very own words. Yes i watched you're linked clip and here is what i have to say kiara better not collab with the faggots or i will drop her too. Just like some of the others all ENs that collab or say they will collab with them will get my vote of no confidence and therefore effectively dropped period.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:39:32 2022 No.28996676 >>28996583 I was copy pasting a YouTube comment because it’s funny how hard they’re coping. Kiara doesn’t like males either.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:40:44 2022 No.28996746

>>28996496
Omegalpha drank the reddit koolaid and actually believes the shit that gets posted there about wanting male collabs.
He didn't see what happened during the Mumei/stars collab. Reddit post announcing it got 50K upvotes. All viewpoints combined couldn't even break 10K.
The people on reddit saying they want males will watch for 2 weeks then fuck off and go back to the girls. Just watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:40:58 2022 No.28996765 >>28996676 Anon...cope harder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:41:22 2022 No.28996787 >>28996133 wrong >>28996424 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:41:27 2022 No.28996792 >>28996209 Bae...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:41:53 2022 No.28996814 >>28993946 >>28994042 >>28994566 >you should support them >but I wont watch them that's the same shit the typical homobeggar does

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:41:54 2022 No.28996815

>>28996496
There was a rrat post from a supposed Cover employee here a while back. They spoke of staff within HoloEN, especially Omegatroon, who are the ones who are pushing to desegregate the branches because "muh sexism". I hate myself for not archiving it, but to anyone who knows what I'm talking about, how true has it been so far?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:42:30 2022 No.28996860 >>28996424 This anon speaks the truth Kiara is the white man's choice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:44:12 2022 No.28996975 >>28996814 Yes but homobeggars try to force people to watch them through collabs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:44:22 2022 No.28996987 File: 72 KB, 1280x720, 1655604802452.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] as a White Supremacist Nazi, I must admit that Kiara is my oshi. 1488

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:44:40 2022 No.28997008 >>28994042 Fucking based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:44:47 2022 No.28997014 >Behind her voice, she is still seething that she burned her collab card on Nyanners >All her new collab cards say "Redeem at nearest HoloTempus"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:44:52 2022 No.28997018 >>28996814 >you should support them >but I won’t watch them >but you shouldn’t ignore them weird stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:45:51 2022 No.28997079 >>28994571 Appreciate Kiara's input, but why does Ame get shit on for basically saying the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:46:55 2022 No.28997138 File: 157 KB, 806x406, 1621282084407.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] as a lifelong democrat and socialist, I must admit Kiara is my oshi

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:47:13 2022 No.28997154

>>28993946
>"I want them to do well and be accepted by the community"
>Said after she stated she won't be watching their debuts and still doesn't think she will collab with them
Can't tell if this is cringe or based, but Kiara toes the line all the same

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:47:32 2022 No.28997171 >>28997018 Omegalpha would have probably suspended her without pay if she went "I DON'T EVEN WANT TO BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS THOSE SUBHUMANS. HOW DARE YOU EVEN SUGGEST I COLLAB WITH THEM? I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR DEBUTS."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:47:52 2022 No.28997189 >>28997138 chimken bipartisen support

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:49:32 2022 No.28997262 >>28994042 alright but would it really bother you if she collabed with the blue one? He's literally gay as fuck, not like he'll fuck your oshi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:49:42 2022 No.28997272 File: 903 KB, 1920x3017, lorenzo-veronesi-kiara-kamen-rider-finished.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Homobeggars get the tip

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:50:10 2022 No.28997295 >>28997154 It would've been 3am by the time the first debut starts. Besides she supports them because they're in hololive but she doesn't watch male vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:50:49 2022 No.28997340 >>28993946 Literally the perfect response, there's literally no side that can disagree with anything she said whether you're pro-homo or anti-homo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:51:01 2022 No.28997351 >>28997262 beggars get the rope. You know the rules

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:51:06 2022 No.28997356
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Eh, she's just honest about it.

Having no interest in something doesn't mean not wanting it to succeed. There's many Holo girls I don't watch but doesn't mean I don't want them to do well and I'm happy for their fans if they do. My feelings about the Holostars is the same.

Also deja vu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:51:39 2022 No.28997387 >>28997079 NTA but Ame made it seem like she has no choice in the matter and her shilling was a direct "Please notice them", to Kiara's "They're there, be nice, i'm going to bed"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:52:35 2022 No.28997451 File: 235 KB, 1280x415, 1653470156898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28997262 >He's literally gay as fuck, not like he'll fuck your oshi. >He doesn't know that a hole's a hole for degenerate faggots

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:53:46 2022 No.28997517

>>28997018
Thats not what she was saying. some of it is missing some context
>You should support them if you want too
>If you don't that's okay too
>There's' no reason to pretend that they don't exist. It hurts you more to do that then it does to just not interact with them.
>I may not want to watch them or watch Male V-tubers in general, though I do watch a few male streamers, however that doesn't mean I don't want them to succeed, because I know how it feels to be invisible while trying to draw a crowd to a show
>They are a part of HoloEN even if they are stars and I really do want the best for them even if I have no plans to collab with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:53:54 2022 No.28997528 I understand wanting your fans to support other members of the "same" company, but each is going to have completely different audiences. A KFP fag isn't going to enjoy watching a Holodude

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:54:02 2022 No.28997534 >>28997340 >reddit/twitter: "REEEEEEEEEE SHE'S A SEXIST, IDOL CULTURE KILLS WOMEN"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:54:03 2022 No.28997537 >>28993946 >nothing g word related Egg thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:54:34 2022 No.28997567 >>28996424 >borderline

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:55:20 2022 No.28997610 >>28997528 I can personally tell you you're wrong. Kiara is Kami-oshi and Oga is also an Oshi. and Regis may become one too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:56:24 2022 No.28997681 >>28997451 >A hole's a hole >For Uki, the person so gay in NijiEN he could probably shut down a pride rally by telling them they're weak shit That's like saying you'd plow some random /vt/ sister at a con because he's the only person around

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:56:48 2022 No.28997722 >>28997610 >here's some anecdotal evidence completely ignoring obvious facts including that the biggest vtuber outright said she'd never collab with men

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:57:17 2022 No.28997748 >>28993946 Her voice is so much more pleasant here than in streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:57:42 2022 No.28997773 >>28997451 I don't know man, he sounded pretty confident in his swordfighting...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:57:49 2022 No.28997788 >>28997681 I'm not gay but if he was wearing an Ame or Fauna cosplay...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:57:55 2022 No.28997795 >>28994004 austrussy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:59:28 2022 No.28997887 >>28997517 Is this all missing or cut from the clip wow i really fucking hate clip niggers and myself for believing a disingenuous clip nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 21:59:30 2022 No.28997890 >>28997722 anon the only anecdoctal evidence is the bit about being invisible, everything else was part of the twitter space. A lot of context was actually removed from the clip

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:01:04 2022 No.28997988 >>28996424 i am an actual nazi and active user of /pol/ Kiara is my oshi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:01:37 2022 No.28998021 It's really a sad state of affairs when the males are already walking into buckshot, on top of the girls now inadvertently denouncing them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:02:25 2022 No.28998077 >>28996411 I'll accept this rrat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:02:54 2022 No.28998109 >>28993946 Based Kiara supporting the stars, she'll collab with them before the end of the year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:04:06 2022 No.28998180 >>28998021 They shouldn't exist to begin with holostars is a fucking joke branch that should have been disbanded years ago they are nothing more than cover corps pet pity project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:05:01 2022 No.28998243 >>28998021 “I’m trying to ignore them” isn’t buckshot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:06:26 2022 No.28998334 >>28998180 >They shouldn't exist Logically, they shouldn't Financially, they should, especially after Vox and Mysta from NijiEN, along with indies like RPR and Shoto, showed YAGOO how much the Fujo-market is left untapped

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:07:28 2022 No.28998405

>>28998021
>>28998180
>>28998334
They had 40k viewership debuts, they're already the most popular male vtubers in the west without Chinese auience support. They will unironically be a showcase on how big a male vtuber can be with a mostly western audience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:11:46 2022 No.28998689 >>28997722 cookie said she will never collab with men?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:12:09 2022 No.28998707 >>28998405 How do you check for Chinese Audience Support. If the goal is milk the fujo market, wouldn't you want to encourage Yuanbux?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:12:45 2022 No.28998742 >>28996411 Holy based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:12:55 2022 No.28998754 >>28997748 because she spoke into her phone while laying in bed for a twitter voice stream therefore not using her microphone and soundsettings to make the chicken voice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:13:16 2022 No.28998771 >>28998707 Chinks only watch nijiniggers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:14:49 2022 No.28998874 >>28998771 >Chinks only watch nijiniggers I don't think you know the "chinese market" very well anon. China spends most of its time on Bilibili whereas SEA/KR/JP fujos go to Nijisanji. Though that's not to say there isn't a noticeable overlap

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:15:25 2022 No.28998904 Teakeks....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:15:53 2022 No.28998938 Kiara has literally nothing else going for her but being the “idol” (in her own head by the way) gif myth kek. Thing is her own fanbase are such saviorfags they wouldn’t care either way

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:15:54 2022 No.28998939 >>28993946 wait wait how the fuck do Kiara and Mori give the best responses while Ame basically made me leave Hololive from her response and what Bae did? Unicornbros do I stick around because Kiara and Gura are around?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:17:22 2022 No.28999017 >>28995931 like german pussy but more conceited

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:17:42 2022 No.28999040 >>28998939 Mori asked Kiara, because Mori is going to pretend her TT and HoloStarJP collabs magically didn't exist Deadbeats memory hole so effectively you'd think their parents worked for Stalin

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:18:55 2022 No.28999110 >>28998939 mori even did a song with a homostar lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:19:13 2022 No.28999134 >>28998938 Sounds like you're a faggot

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:19:13 2022 No.28999135
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They'll get super popular and she'll kneel eventually. She doesn't know them yet. Unless they are completely insufferable turbo faggots they will slowly be welcomed into regular HoloEN. This is the west and the hard male/female segregation won't fly like it does in Japan. Look at NijiEN and Vshojo. Guys are everywhere in those branches (in the case of vshojo it's who they talk to not male members).

Ame and Calli are being smart by associating with them now, they're ripping off the band-aid. Eventually Kiara will be the odd one out and she's gonna look weird being the only one who doesn't talk with them (besides Gura but the rules don't apply to Gura because she's the queen of hololive)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:19:28 2022 No.28999153 File: 421 KB, 800x800, tumblr_f6477422e501e26703e9da4901ccb1cb_4d7622ca_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] keep my wife's wife out of this thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:19:44 2022 No.28999164 >>28998939 kiara understands the okatu world, idols, and holoJP. Watson is an ironic weeb who doesnt have any of this knowledge. gura knows she doesnt understand so she plays it safe, but watson has to pick a fight over everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:20:18 2022 No.28999197 >>28998939 What did Bae do?

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:21:06 2022 No.28999249

>>28999135
Nah, Kiara is many things, but fickle isn't one of them. She's hated men since before she walked into Hololive, and i'm fairly sure she joined Hololive - in part- to not have to deal with men

>>28999197
Basically talked to her chat the same way a special ed teacher talks to the short bus just before they walk into a museum

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:21:43 2022 No.28999280

>>28999197
Not sure if the debut watchalong is muted, but her and Ollie along with a-chan uploaded the HomoEN debut watchalong on the main Hololive EN channel, meanwhile I think her response of "you're going to have to accept change" response was worst than Ame's

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:23:09 2022 No.28999355 >>28999280 Holy shit yeah that is bad. Even reading that is bad. I accept change yes, change for the better, not change for the worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:23:51 2022 No.28999394 >>28999355 Male vtubers aren't a change for the worse anon.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:23:52 2022 No.28999395

>>28994794
No, she knows what collab wouldn't mesh well
She can collab with males no problem, with many sponsors she has done and even yagoo himself, but she knows holostar has this perception from the fans that would make people too reactive
It's all about time and place, when it makes sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:23:52 2022 No.28999397 >>28994794 Didn't she ask her fans nearly a year ago how they'd feel about her collabing with a guy and they were overwhelmingly nonplussed? Oh, except one guy who sent a superchat acting like a victim for not being okay with it, that pussy was funny.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:24:24 2022 No.28999426
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>>28993946
Future to come:
>"Collabs with males": HOW'S THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? HOW'S THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?"
https://youtu.be/TSpkyx7VSaU?t=63
Don't be foolish to fall for that. Kiara is also friends with Vshojo IRL, already heard of Veibae? Actual role: sodapoppin onahole, but when she had less fame, however:
https://streamable.com/v92q8o
The time to jump ship is NOW.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:24:26 2022 No.28999429 >>28998109 She would rather drink Fauna's breast milk for the rest of her life than collabing with leddit males

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:24:29 2022 No.28999432 >>28999394 >NijiEN >2view Males nah I think Vtubing is the only sphere where Males don't have the advantage

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:24:36 2022 No.28999437 >>28999394 ywnbaw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:24:43 2022 No.28999444 >>28998939 no you should definitely leave still

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:26:34 2022 No.28999540 >>28993946 LOL. ANOTHER HOMO STAR PROMOTION FROM KIARA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:27:07 2022 No.28999589 >>28999134 You know I’m right. She could suck their dicks on stream and kfp would be like oooo poor Kiara

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:27:11 2022 No.28999592 >>28994042 This says more about her fans than it says about her. They will put her head on a spike.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:28:14 2022 No.28999664 >>28999592 And we thought Teamates were the same but look at them now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:28:38 2022 No.28999695 >>28999592 Absolutely not

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:28:39 2022 No.28999697

>>28999135
Kinda left it open-ended by saying she 'didnt really decide on what to do with collabs'. She'll collab with them if they are successful and the backlash is minimal, and ignore them if they fade into obscurity or become too high-risk in associating with. Even if she did collab it would be once in a blue moon anyway so who cares.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:29:29 2022 No.28999759

>>28993946
>Support her company
>Not a tribalfag either
>Not interested by them and probably won’t watch
>Not against a one-time collab either (she still want a double talk show with roberu)
She has respect for idolcuture without being a bitch and neither unicorns nor twitterfags can blame her for anything
Absolutely based and the absolute best possible answer she could have given.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:29:35 2022 No.28999766 >>28994004 FPBP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:30:10 2022 No.28999820 >>28999249 I think it's funny how people love to point to Kronii as the misandrist of hololive (who in reality is probably the least) but really it's Kiara. Unless you're giving her money of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:31:14 2022 No.28999902 >>28999820 Kiara has male friends

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:31:50 2022 No.28999944 >>28999589 I know you're a faggot and most likely a third worlder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:32:08 2022 No.28999970 >>28999249 Yet men literally watch her, comment and give her money. I feel sorry for her fanbase

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:32:10 2022 No.28999973 >>28999589 Pretty much so would all the HoloEN fanbases.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:32:36 2022 No.29000002

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this entire debacle logically.
Is it because it's been 2+ years of conditioning the fans that they're seiso single uwu cuties just trying to play games? Because Mori destroyed that with TrashTaste and HoloStarJP
Is it because males are just deadweight and will ruin the collab synergy? you could argue VOMS' one male or NijisanjiEN's males do little to damper the mood, apart from over the top, non-stop collabing (looking your way Millie/Fulgur)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:32:42 2022 No.29000013 >>28999040 >because Mori is going to pretend her TT and HoloStarJP collabs magically didn't exist holy fucking threadreader

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:33:06 2022 No.29000060 >>28999902 Link? When does she talk about this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:35:58 2022 No.29000285 >>29000060 she has talked many times her best friend's boyfriend, helping her with tech and other stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kpZ_WuxJkY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:36:23 2022 No.29000315 >>28999944 Nice try

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:42:02 2022 No.29000727 >>29000315 Cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:42:39 2022 No.29000767 >>28999902 yah, like in husband of her best friend etc but nothing like what americans would understand under the term "male friends"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:43:57 2022 No.29000865 >>28999902 Kiara is only friends with couples and she’s third-wheeling every single one of them. But really her friends are all female and the others are just her friend’s boyfriends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:46:42 2022 No.29001047 >>29000002 Kiara is a huge number fag so if the males somehow get better numbers than her she will make some bullshit excuse to collab and Kfp will eat it up and say muh based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:49:08 2022 No.29001226 >>28999820 >>28999970 i mean, i don't do reps for kronii, but kiara has valid reasons for coming to hate men....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:51:29 2022 No.29001375 >>28993946 look at how many "people" in the comments are seething about her not wanting to collab with males LMAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:51:35 2022 No.29001386 >>28998405 >they're already the most popular male vtubers in the west without Chinese auience support. I can't tell if HomoEN fags are trolls or if they're actually stupid enough to believe this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:53:05 2022 No.29001500 >>29001375 I see no one seething outside of /here/. The worse comments under this video are just "Welp, I guess she has that kind of fan, but she handled the situation well".

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:55:41 2022 No.29001673

i think Kiara is savvy. While Mori, Bae etc think the audience is reddit homobeggars KIara knows idol culture is funded by salarymen who work themselves to the bone and have disposable income due to no social life. They just want an hour or two in the evening with their Oshi to brighten up their otherwise hellish existence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:59:27 2022 No.29001933 Were any of you fags going to mention that Tulsi's live? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwT2uHVMEyg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 22:59:33 2022 No.29001941 >>29001673 This. I just want to smile once in a while, I'm tired of seeing degenerate shit like nijien and vshojo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:00:21 2022 No.29001997 >>29001673 >funded by salarymen who work themselves to the bone and have disposable income due to no social life. there's proof of this right there's hard proof

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:02:41 2022 No.29002155

Vtubing was started by and for lonely men who had disposable income cause they were outcasts of society, Kiara understands this and she knows the struggle of being an outcast, fan, and the road to being the idol she is today. Homobeggers never understood this cause they are not outcasts like the fans that built Hololive up are, which amazes me why Ame did her response cause her life story to Hololive is pretty much the outcast underdog but oh well... guess being the "leader of EN" and money changes a person

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:07:13 2022 No.29002433
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>>29001941
Why can't r.dditfags and twitter virtue signallers just leave the thing I like alone. I'll have to fucking learn JP if I want to continue this hobby if Hololive becomes NijiEN. All so some autists can pat themselves on the back for "sticking it to toxic idol culture" Just leave my thing be and let me enjoy it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:09:10 2022 No.29002561 >>29002155 Vtubing was definitely not started by lonely men that were outcasts of society. At least not by your definition of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:09:35 2022 No.29002583 >>28993946 Pretty much perfect answer

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:09:50 2022 No.29002596
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>>28993946
lmaooooo imagine being a HomoEN
>Go through several auditions
>You get the ugliest model you could ever imagine because they didnt give a fuck really, just wanted the instant luxiem success with none of the budget
>You complain and their """solution"""" to save you is to hire a bunch of indians and have them draw BLACKED edits of girls with you in it as astroturf
>Your senpai doesn't even bother lying that she would watch your debut

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:12:34 2022 No.29002770 >>29002596 >Brooo it has to be a psyop or a shill operation, memes don't happen organically broooooo >Except for Niji ones of course

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:12:37 2022 No.29002778 >>29001997 If you want me to give you a spreadsheet like #s this I cannot do. Its a pretty common observable pattern though I grant it may be different in the west but I doubt it. Why do you think Jp and stars jp are separated in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:14:16 2022 No.29002885

>>29002770
yeah yeah is that why that even YAGOO himself was repeating it and it massively died down after debut lol
Just because you were playing along for free it doesnt mean that everyone else was the same. This board is /v/-lite and this shit happens all the time in /v/

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:14:19 2022 No.29002889

>>29002596
>Go through several auditions
>You get hyped by the literal CEO and even the talents who hate males are wishing you success
>40k on debut
>blue get’s hundreds of time his viewership from previous life
>Mag get instantly recognized by his old fans and they will move over Gura-style

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:14:47 2022 No.29002916 >>29001047 Yeah just like she collabed with TT- Oh wait...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:15:21 2022 No.29002958 >>29002433 Dude just end it it's easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:15:50 2022 No.29002986 >>29001375 Why lie about something that everyone can see? Are you a woman?

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:16:13 2022 No.29003009

>>29002885
The shit died down here because it hit the big leagues and became normalfag central (partly due to contrarianism, partly because of it being a classic case of beating the dead horse). If this is the first time you've seen that happen, then you must be an extreme newfag.
That's also why Yagoo himself used it, it became an extreme normalfag meme.
That tends to happen. Whenever redditor tourists see anything that they deem worthy, they just steal it, and then the twittards steal from them.
And so on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:16:26 2022 No.29003020 >>29002433 Deep down you know you're going to have to take part in a literal fascist revolution at this point to remove this problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:16:46 2022 No.29003047 We live in a world where Kiara had an utter retarded take regarding the homos while Mori had a based take, God damn the times we live in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:17:25 2022 No.29003093 Damn you dumb retards are going full schizo / /pol/ now, huh?

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:17:47 2022 No.29003116

>>29002433
to be honest man I wouldn't be too gloomy. Hololive is a business first. Probably some will collab enthusiastically like Mori and Bae. others will have occasional collabs like watson and cover will encourage others like Gura and Kiara to have the bare minimum interaction. It won't be nijien collab spamming with people dropping in on every stream.

But JP reps is a good insurance strategy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:18:12 2022 No.29003144 >>29002596 >40k debuts Nigger, they are at the top of the world. They have all the eyes on them, it's now on their own talent to keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:18:51 2022 No.29003197 >>29003144 >40k >top of the world HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:19:13 2022 No.29003219 >>29003047 Both their takes were perfectly fair, you're just an insane schizo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:20:34 2022 No.29003292 >>29003047 They were both based. Off your meds already?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:21:16 2022 No.29003328 >>29003047 >Mori during the amongus collab: "SUBSCRIBE TO MY BOOOOYSS" >JP members and kronii: "..." Yeah sure, based if you're a cuckbeat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:21:57 2022 No.29003374 >>29003020 I suppose you're right. I'll go out bloody and thrashing if I have to. For the sake of my oshi...

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:22:05 2022 No.29003382

>>29003197
Considering they are the first gen of a new branch in a company that usually panders to male, yes it’s a success.
They’re already more successful than their JP sempais and the most succesful EN male vtuber beside Niji.
I expected 20k, certainly not 40

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:24:41 2022 No.29003561

>>29003197
As far male vtubers go? Yeah, pretty much.

It's the term, not in the clouds of course. They don't have the years old pre-established male Niji vtuber fanbase + crazy female Chinese audience support Nijiboys have.

There's ZERO reason to pity them or go with the insane schizo takes like yours, that treats them like they're these super underdogs that no one carews, their opportunity is there, and they have to hold on to it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:25:44 2022 No.29003621
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Kiara - Best take
Mori - Good take
Gura/Kronii/Mumei/IRyS - No take (good by default)
Ina - Bad take (said Stars are holoEn family, not StarsJP family)
Ame - Bad take
Bae - Terrible take

Whats the verdict on Fauna?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:26:32 2022 No.29003670 >>28993946 She always has the most based takes. It feels good having a fellow idolchad in EN

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:31:49 2022 No.29003963 >>29003197 Fun fact: Luxiem got half of that at debut. 40k people watching a livestream is near-incomprehensible numbers, it's stuff only the top .1% of streamers can touch. That's like, a MLB baseball stadium full of people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:32:09 2022 No.29003978 kek Kiara saved only because of timezone

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:32:27 2022 No.29003996 File: 139 KB, 500x500, 1658496182126651.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28999592 I'm KFP and I can't speak forr the other chickens, but I'm magging hard right now

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:32:43 2022 No.29004011

>>28996746
I mean just look at how many people turned in and subscribed to the homostarsEN debuts. If even a FRACTION of the usual Hololive audiences had tuned in to support these guys they should have way more than just 60-80k subscribers. The Holo fanbase is huge and these numbers for debut are pathetic and show that reddit is not the majority.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:34:04 2022 No.29004098 >>29003621 Has Fauna mentioned the boys at all yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:34:31 2022 No.29004139 >>29003561 >>29003963 And Noctix had 60K at debut. 40K at debut is ID numbers. They'll be fucking 3 views 2 months from now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:34:40 2022 No.29004149 >>29002596 That image really got under skin huh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:35:03 2022 No.29004177 >>29003996 Me too fellow chimkin. Probably won’t simp, buy any merch or membership. But the guy is such a bro, I’ll most likely watch a few stream of him and I wish for him to find a nice fanbase of female and/or male willing to whale for him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:36:04 2022 No.29004234 >>29004139 >Luxiem was their first male vtubers >Holotempus is their first male vtubers >But no, let me compare them to their second male wave instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:36:12 2022 No.29004243 >>29003996 based

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:37:57 2022 No.29004361

>>29003621
I watch Fauna and haven't heard her mention them at all. Fauna is a legitimate Hololive fan and a chumbud to boot, so I'd bet she will politely mention them once or twice at some point briefly and never talk about them again. Certainly wouldn't collab.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:38:15 2022 No.29004376

If she's actually serious about wanting them to succeed and support them then she'll reach out and collab with them.

Anyone who is in this industry, be it fan or talent, knows that girls just have a bigger audience and platform, period.

If she, or anyone for that matter, want to break the taboo of "Oh my god, she's collabing with a guy, they must be dating / fucking" the only way to do so is by doing it and ignoring the hate that will come their way.

Make it clear, "These are my coworkers / friends and yes, I will play with them."

If she isn't willing to do so, everything she says is just fluff. At that point she's basically saying "Good luck, but pull yourself up by your bootstraps" with how little actual help is being offered.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:38:35 2022 No.29004398 >>29004234 They also gained less subs than the amount of people that were watching. I bet at least 1/4 of their views were faggots from here hatewatching to shitpost. Even the worst performing IDs like Kaela and Anya had 250K subs by now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:39:04 2022 No.29004421 >>28994042 she is a true idol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:39:55 2022 No.29004471 >>29004398 >They also gained less subs than the amount of people that were watching. Because they were subbed before watching? >Even the worst performing IDs like Kaela and Anya had 250K subs by now. Absolutely fucking not

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:40:12 2022 No.29004493 >>29004376 She wanted to say that she didn't give a fuck about them but management would be on her ass if she did. She's fucking based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:40:48 2022 No.29004525 >>28995931 This >>28999017 but only if it's Viennese; if it's from elsewhere it's your fine free-range, classic puss

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:40:59 2022 No.29004536

>>29004398
You're such a dumbass nigger ignoring part of the posts people reply for the sake of god knows what argument. To begin with, what's your angle? Because the argument those Anons had is simple, "they're doing great for a non-Niji male vtuber" and you're bringing the Holo ID girls for some reason, that are not even runts anymore.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:41:09 2022 No.29004541

>>29004376
Yes, Kiara, a woman who has fought tooth and nail for 15 miserable years to build the existence she currently enjoys, should risk it for some dudes she doesn't know and owes nothing to.
The statement she said above was already magnanimous and generous and the boys have plenty of exposure (40-fucking-k people watching their debuts?!), so at this point it's 100% on them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:41:33 2022 No.29004563

>>28994794

I guess when you have the smallest following of your gen and fairly low CCV count you have to cater to them. Sad that both she and her viewers are so afraid of a *gasp* male that they literally won't work with someone within their own company.

Fucking aspies can take a hike.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:42:03 2022 No.29004602 >>28994042 >>28994566 >>28999759 Why does /vt/ hate her again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:42:07 2022 No.29004606 >>29003996 based and same

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:42:53 2022 No.29004653 >>29004541 >risk it >nijigirls doing just fine despites MUH MALES AHHH it's a fucking huge cope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:43:08 2022 No.29004668 >>29004376 You're a fucking retard. You dumbass niggers are just as bad as unicorns, and twice as creepy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:43:41 2022 No.29004700 >>29004653 Nijigirls are doing "just fine", and the HoloEN girls are making generational wealth-tier money. It's not the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:43:51 2022 No.29004710 >>29001226 Was she touched?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:08 2022 No.29004720 File: 1019 KB, 2560x2560, MaggEGGed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29004376 >Make it clear, "These are my coworkers / friends and yes, I will play with them." homobeggar fuck off

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:16 2022 No.29004727 >>29004653 Nijifriends don't have so many unicorns though. Aside from the crazy Vox fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:20 2022 No.29004731 >>29004536 Debut views mean jack shit. The slow subscriber growth is all I need to see to know this. Sub 500 views in 2 months. See you there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:21 2022 No.29004735 >>28996418 Wasn't one of the big rrat things about her basically how she was a bitch to her EN juniors because one of them asked her for a collab and she flipped her arrogant "It should be the senior who asks" BS?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:31 2022 No.29004747 >>29004653 >>nijigirls doing just fine > Finana.... >Petra.....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:44:54 2022 No.29004770 >>29004710 no, worse magged

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:45:04 2022 No.29004780 >>29004731 and like I said, it'll be their own goddamn fault if they can't grab the opportunity you're arguing nothing with no-one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:45:39 2022 No.29004812 >>29004720 How will you react when they inevitably collab?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:45:48 2022 No.29004816 >>29004747 >Educate yourself >who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:46:12 2022 No.29004844 >>29004653 >Nijigirls >doing just fine Most of them are bleeding viewers and have trouble beating HoloID these days every since Luxiem launched. IF they can jump ship like Luna did, they probably will. ZERO growth opportunity left for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:46:13 2022 No.29004845 >>29004735 QRD on this, any source or anything ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:46:51 2022 No.29004872 >>29004602 Because this comes off as bitter as fuck, meanwhile Mori had the correct approach of saying she will let the homos grow before collabing with them not WAHHHH I REFUSE TO WATCH OR COLLAB WAHH.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:46:58 2022 No.29004877 >>29004731 >already more successful than the JP stars >40k on debut >bringing up the JP simply by existing >more successful than their previous life You can take every angle you want, this is objectively a success.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:47:16 2022 No.29004895 >>28996814 Yes it's perfect, don't you see? She knowingly or inadvertently threw that shit back into their collabbegging ledditsoi faces.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:47:21 2022 No.29004902 >>29004747 Finana is an exception, she fucked herself over with her own behavior.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:47:30 2022 No.29004911 >>29004563 Take your reddit spacing and fucking kill yourself right after killing your family to wipe out your fucking cuck genes you fucking cuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:47:54 2022 No.29004937 >>29004845 They're just regurgitating the "Kiara hates IRyS" copypasta

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:48:51 2022 No.29004999 >>29004812 >inevitably collab? You wish But if it's Magni my sanity will be okay, Magni is cool dude, if it's blue gay gayest faggot i will be really really upset with her. Dunno about Noir and Axel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:48:59 2022 No.29005009 >>29003996 based chimkn man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:49:11 2022 No.29005020 >>29004872 >She HAVES to collab with them even if she don't want to Why exactly ? Does anyone complain about the fact that 90% of HoloEN barely ever interact with HoloJP ? or HoloJP with StarsJP ?

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:49:11 2022 No.29005019

>>28997154

It was her trying to be politically correct while admitting her feelings. She think she's some pure idol that stands on a pedestal, when really she's just a post turtle.

If you're not a simp and actually look at the shit she does objectively, she's completely cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:49:21 2022 No.29005033 >>29004877 Yeah and Salome is currently the biggest streamer in the world with her 200K debut. Oh no wait, I just checked. She matches kobo at best these days. Views during the first 2 months mean jackshit newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:49:45 2022 No.29005067 >>29004735 >>29004845 That sounds really dumb considering that she pestered like half of JP for collabs as soon as her first month ended

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:50:10 2022 No.29005082 >>29005033 >She matches kobo at best these days. Imagine saying this as a proof of being a failure.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:50:11 2022 No.29005087
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>my clip gets used for a catalogue bait thread
>views more than double just because of ONE fucking bait thread since Susan refuses to recommend my shit
I don't know how to feel about this.
Is this why some clipfags shill their own shit here all the time? Still won't do it though, and I recommend the rope to anyone who does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:51:44 2022 No.29005186 >>29004999 Why is it the twink that crosses the line for you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:52:15 2022 No.29005207 >>29005087 You’re clip are based, please never change. Sometime borderline drama-bait, but always objective and with the full context so that’s ok

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:52:49 2022 No.29005243 >>29004872 Sorry. I can't take a cuckbeat's opinion seriously

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:08 2022 No.29005262 >>29005082 And it's totally false as well. Salome still have at least the double of Kobo's CCV on her worse days. And she's top 5 vtuber in the world right now in terms of viewership.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:16 2022 No.29005268 >>29005207 (me) your clips*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:23 2022 No.29005280 >>29005186 NTA but the blue guy seems like he's a Sykkuno-style soft-talking prettyboy type. The target audience for that is female, so I guess the jealous types would see more threat from that.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:30 2022 No.29005291
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>>29004376
Unfortunately, direct support brings severe consequences for both.

Kiara loses her gachikois, a lot of income, and half of this board will slut shame her for the rest of her existence.

Whatever male she chooses to collab with will be heavily shipped with her, loses fujos, and any success he will have will be attributed to the fact that he is fucking her behind the scenes or some other stupid rrats.

Its a sad world when you have to keep the retards happy. I kinda wished they all could collab without having to navigate this labyrinth, but this is the reality of our world. I do think they really want to support them, especially knowing what they went through in the first place, but the industry is too reliant on unicorns.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:41 2022 No.29005311 >>28993946 I'm out of the loop. Why does Kiara hate Nene now? She's been replaced in the photo with Lui and Mumei

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:53:48 2022 No.29005317 >>29005033 >"debut views don't matter, sub growth is the real factor" >kills his argument himself by mentioning salome, the fastest growing vtuber of all time, reclined a month after (and she's still fuck huge) Anon you're actually retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:54:00 2022 No.29005338 >>29004735 This is bullshit. She said on stream how she wished more people would ask her collabs and it's always her reaching out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:54:19 2022 No.29005363 >>29005020 You don't get it. She has to collab with them so I can cuckpost about it, because I don't like her

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:54:37 2022 No.29005377 >>29005291 Nobody is going to ship her with any of them she’s a dyke

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:54:54 2022 No.29005390

>>28997171
I think all the girls are free of his bullshit considering how they've referred to him. Maybe not IRyS yet.
>>28997534
No, the need for those male feminists to whiteknight something, even if it were elizabeth fucking bathory, means they'd never attack her like that. Some typically low test effeminate passive agressive responses however should be expected though sparingly.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:55:29 2022 No.29005439

>>28998243

It is. If any of the JP Hololive members came out and said "Yeah Hololive EN Myth exists, but I probably won't collab or watch their debuts" it immediately could sours those debuts to their bases.

Words have consequences and Kiara needs to learn that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:55:49 2022 No.29005457 >>29005087 Getting the attention of this board unironically boosts careers which is why some people are so desperate to do it. Even big corpo dudes, like Magni, got a noticeable boost from the attention here. But it's a double-edged sword.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:56:15 2022 No.29005493 >>29005311 She haves 4 differents frame on her desk, one of them is her with Nene, one is Holobirds (the one on the clip), one is Myth, one is her with Pekora.

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:56:15 2022 No.29005491
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>>29005262
>>29005317
>YOU'RE LYING SHE'S FUCKING HUGE SHE DOESN'T MATCH KOBO
How about you fuck off and die and cite source next time because I got facts right here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:56:32 2022 No.29005508 >>29005291 It doesn't matter if Kiara collabs with a male. She'll peg them anyway kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:56:37 2022 No.29005512 >>29005439 >>29005291 >>29005019 >>29004735 >>29004563 >>29004376 >Reddit spacing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:01 2022 No.29005541 >>28998754 Aye fookin' heyt tha fookin' chicken voice t. Norf Kiara avoider club member

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:29 2022 No.29005567 >>29005377 Then there's no problem with her collabing with males right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:31 2022 No.29005571 >>29005491 >Using a premiere video of registered gameplay and compare it to a stream Anon, you don't even understand the numbers you're using to shitpost. You're actually retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:34 2022 No.29005574 >>29005439 If the JP Holostars had said that when Mori reached out the collective kneeling would have set off earthquake detectors

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:50 2022 No.29005594 File: 340 KB, 850x1148, 1637614070279.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29005439 > If any of the JP Hololive members came out and said "Yeah Hololive EN Myth exists, but I probably won't collab

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:57:53 2022 No.29005595

>>29005291
God people are so fucking dramatic about this. It's not some sort of cosmic gender-war struggle.
The truth is, it's just not content her audience wants to watch. Hololive fans don't want to be third-wheels seeing their oshi interact with dudes. It's not good entertainment.
These are just youtube channels jesus christ

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:58:15 2022 No.29005618

>>29004812
If it's by her own decision, fine. If it's by your weird creepy "oh look at these new coworkers that strangers you know nothing about, YOU MUST COLLAB WITH THEM, THEY'RE MALES, MAAAAAALES, IT'S THE MORALLY CORRECT THING TO DO" Twitter moralfaggotry, then I will be insulted. Your argument made zero sense, like it's supposed to be a mandatory thing.

Kiara is not chasing collabs anymore, she used to but got burned by harassment way too much, damn her best JP friendship were just destiny, particularly O'riends. Not even with Council she was active in looking for collabs, instead she left herself open to anyone that wanted to collab with her and just went with the flow to connect with people, and it did great, it's the reason why she is getting close with the ID girls for example, it's not making her less or more popular and it doesn't matter, she's just making friends. I can't find a single reason why Kiara would want to put to stop to her plans and streams for her KFP and friends just to force a collab with the new branch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:58:25 2022 No.29005624 >>29005493 ah thank you kfp loremaster

Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:58:41 2022 No.29005639

>>28999249

Kiara is literally the most fickle, childish, and egocentric member of EN let alone hololive. She's pretty much the only one that calls out people because they hurt her feelings by "Clipping her out of context" even though they literally don't.

She's probably still upset by all the shit she had to do to try and make it and still failed in her past to the point it came down to Hololive accepting her or eating a bullet as her only choices.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:59:29 2022 No.29005700 >>29005186 I just don't like him, his voice disgusts me, it's absolutely unbearable, plus I hate fujobaiters and manwhores.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 23 23:59:35 2022 No.29005709 >>29005639 Nobody cares about what a reddit spacer thinks. Die of aids.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:00:02 2022 No.29005732 >>29005439 But that’s exactly what some of them said and did. Especially because of the language barrier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:00:50 2022 No.29005787 >>29005618 Based streamwatcher and chimken-understander

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:00:59 2022 No.29005803 >>29005639 I'm pretty sure you need medical help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:01:12 2022 No.29005817 >>29005491 Lmao you didn't even read my post, I said she did recline retard, it just defeats your previous post about sub growth being important >>29004731

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:01:14 2022 No.29005818 >>29005709 Based and orangepilled

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:01:16 2022 No.29005822 >>29005639 >Defending clipfags Stopped reading

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:01:40 2022 No.29005848 >>29005512 Was going to shit on your mass replying "le reddit!" ass but you're right. It's smells like reddit soi and needs to GO BACK

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:02:03 2022 No.29005871 >>29005639 >reddit spacing >most likely a cuckbrap kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:02:17 2022 No.29005886 >>29005709 KEK BASED

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:02:35 2022 No.29005902 >>29005639 >reddit spacer is the most retarded in the thread and is even replying to himself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:02:38 2022 No.29005908 >>29005709 KEK KEK ANON YOU KILLED HIM

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:03:01 2022 No.29005938 >>29005377 >she’s a dyke I don't think that will stop them, Ina is totally asexual and somehow has the most art with HomoEn at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:03:10 2022 No.29005949 Why is it so important to you guys that she collab with those guys ? If she have to organize a collab, i could list at least tens HoloJP member she could collab with that would most likely make for a better collab.

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:03:11 2022 No.29005951

>>28993946
WHY ARE LATIN AMERICAN RETARDS (my own race) SO OBSESSED WITH MALES COLLABING WITH FEMALES? WHY? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FEMALES FUCKING MALES INFRONT OF YOU SO BADLY? THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT LATINOS, YOU DO NOT WANT ACTUALLY COLLAB, YOU WANT TO FANTASY OVER THEM FUCKING AND KISSING LIKE 86% OF THE LATAM VTUBERS.

FUCKING GROSS I HATE MYSELF

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:03:22 2022 No.29005964 >>29005639 >She's pretty much the only one that calls out people WTF THE ORANGE WOMAN IS BASED!?

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:03:34 2022 No.29005978

>>29005639
kys Kami
none of that is even true, you constructed this whole "Kiara talked badly about me and needs to accept my apology publicly" in your head, she defended you and told people to not shit on you many, many times
the worst thing she said was along the lines of "well at least I can count on my clippers to not misrepresent me"

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:04:07 2022 No.29006007

>>29001226
Just because she tried to make some business decisions to further her shit career and hopes of being an idol doesn't make it any mans fault.

If she hates men, it's only because they remind her of how she degraded herself to try and make it big and it never worked out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:05:35 2022 No.29006106 File: 723 KB, 1184x720, panno_mimi-1539068972934758401-img1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28993946 These last days have only proven to me (again) that Kiara and Gura are fucking amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:05:55 2022 No.29006130 >>29006007 rrat

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:06:23 2022 No.29006169 >>29005949 You don't understand SHE HAVES TO COLLAB WITH THEM. SHE HAVES TO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:06:29 2022 No.29006176 >>29005951 Wasn't Big Brother really popular there for all the sex people could watch? You're just voyeurs, or are all horrible cuckolds. One or the other. Or both.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:06:47 2022 No.29006197 >>29005639 Based.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:06:56 2022 No.29006206 >>29006106 I don't care about Gura or Kiara but they are definitely the most based ones in EN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:07:16 2022 No.29006240 >>29006007 ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:07:58 2022 No.29006273 >>29006197 t. redditnigger

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:08:16 2022 No.29006294 >>29006169 Not even shitposting, but this whole thing is really weird to me. Why does she have to collab with them and not, let's say, Iroha ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:08:23 2022 No.29006303 >>28998405 >without chinese audiences You must be retarded if you believe this , these females don't care what happened in the past they just need a attractive guy Just ask the boys where their audiences come from after debut

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:08:31 2022 No.29006306 >>29005949 Because redditthey have to, okay? THEY JUST HAVE TO

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:09:21 2022 No.29006370 >>29006169 Haves?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:09:42 2022 No.29006397 >>29005949 >We It's just redditniggers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:11:06 2022 No.29006486 Any girl that doesn't want to collab with homos is based in my book. Go back to sucking cock homobeggars

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:11:11 2022 No.29006492 >>28998707 The dudes have analytics so they know where the interest is from. Here's how you'll know if they have a big Chinese audience: They start streaming in Chinese primetime (2-5AMish PST)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:11:22 2022 No.29006501 >>29006294 Not just Iroha, but Flare, Laplus or even Watame. It’s been ages since the last Watame collab and she even proposed to help her with phoenixton.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:12:23 2022 No.29006564 >>29006007 Anon I think he means about when she dry got raped on TV without being told about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:13:38 2022 No.29006643 >>29005949 It's not important that she does collab with them, Kiara can do what she wants. Why is it so important that she DOESNT collab with them though? She already asked her chat if she could collab with men and they said it's fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:13:43 2022 No.29006650 >>29004602 Eggs don't count as people.

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:13:48 2022 No.29006657

>>29006176
While it is true latinos are into cuckolding a lot, we mostly do it for the morbid aspect. You can see A LOT of the comments in the fucking yt video that they STILL want Kiara to collab, with vague phrases and mental gymnastics. I hate when people want to force it one way or another, or want to be passive aggressive about it when it's clearly what they want.

This is one of the reasons that HoloES will never be a thing, the market is literally the opposite of what HoloJP does.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:15:34 2022 No.29006778 >>29006643 >>29006486

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:15:42 2022 No.29006786 >>29006643 She can do them if she want to. But she already said that she didn't want to. So why are you trying to push them on her ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:17:25 2022 No.29006924 >>29004700 We are not the same nijikeks, we holohoax fans are based gigachad, you are debased onions boy wojak

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:20:32 2022 No.29007108 >Support them because they are part of hololive >I want them to do well but I'm not interested >Tits or nothing When did this bitch get so based?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:20:37 2022 No.29007115 >>29006786 timestamp where she said 'I do not want to collab with any of the new holostars'?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:21:56 2022 No.29007206 >>29006643 Have there been any crossovers between idolm@ster and idolm@ster side M?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:26:48 2022 No.29007555 File: 116 KB, 1124x680, 1658600144983349.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29005639

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:28:49 2022 No.29007666 >>29007115 The clip in the OP, watch the goddamn thing

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:28:57 2022 No.29007673

>>29007206
>The big anniversary console game with members from all units happens
>fujos and fags demand side M be included because we need to mix genders
>didn't get it in the end even after DLC
I'd feel bad for them if they weren't such obnoxious faggots trying to force side M into the girls only game. Very similar to the current actions of reddit and twitter in regards to Holostars.
So instead I laughed at their misery because fuck them.
Separate is better since you get exactly what you want and none of what you hate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:30:50 2022 No.29007794 >>29007673 Thank you for the serious answer, I was actually curious but didn’t expect a good faith reply

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:36:55 2022 No.29008185

>>29005087
I was wondering if you made the thread at first, but then I remembered I hadn't seen it in global or the split earlier, and it would be weird to only shill on the catalog.
Nice editing, not my favorite topic since it causes shitflinging but well-put-together with the tweets and everything.

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:39:02 2022 No.29008322

I've tried to like Kiara, and there's a part of me that does, but fuck I just can't deal with cat ladies (massive red flag to worship cats to that extent) and it's so obvious she hides behind the excuse of being European and blunt to be a kind of a bitch. I think she has a good heart but she's clearly menhara. Things like that Skyward Sword meltdown don't happen unless there's something wrong. I hope she goes and sees a therapist. And I won't be totally unfair to her, she's had a lot happen to her and it's pretty clear she has inner strength to get to where she is but she's got demons.

Sorry I had to let my inner /vt/sister out for a minute. I don't care really care one way or the other about how she feels about the holostars guys but I do respect her commitment to her idol grind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:39:07 2022 No.29008327 >>28993946 Based Leader of EN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:40:31 2022 No.29008420 File: 2.44 MB, 1919x1079, _163.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29008327

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:41:30 2022 No.29008487 >>29008322 You read to much /vt/. Kiara is nothing like you’re describing her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:41:43 2022 No.29008496 >>29007794 No problem Anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:42:45 2022 No.29008564 >>29008420 >team leader i kneel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:44:34 2022 No.29008699 >>29008322 Daddy issues. But, let's be honest with ourselves. Mentally fucked up streamers are the most entertaining. The childhood abuse and neglect that leads to this is good for entertainment value.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:46:04 2022 No.29008801 >>29007666 Which is why I asked you for the timestamp anon, since she never said that in the clip.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:46:06 2022 No.29008806 >>29008487 What did I say that's untrue? I will admit that I should have added that she has said she's self-conscious about the bluntness so maybe I'm being too harsh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:48:00 2022 No.29008977 >>29008420 White team won last year's sports festival.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:48:59 2022 No.29009060 >>29008322 >female vtuber >menhara Wow you don't say?

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:50:05 2022 No.29009150

>>29008806
Basically everything apart from being a cat lady.
She’s not using the EU excuse (that’s /vt/ who is trying to use that excuse). And she IS self-conscious about that
She’s not menhera
She’s not a bitch and on the contrary very supportive of her colleagues
And her Skyward sword could barely be called a meltdown. She’s just getting frustrated on a game and too autistic about doing properly long stream to understand that no one care if the final stream of a series is just 30 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:53:02 2022 No.29009403 >>28993946 Corporate shill is the word you are looking for Kiara,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:53:26 2022 No.29009442 >>29009150 Alright fair enough. I don't watch her that much

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:54:11 2022 No.29009510 >>28993946 >"Just don't hurt the brand, boys. Otherwise I don't care." Based Orange woman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:55:03 2022 No.29009584 >>29009150 You should teach her that as an esl she should talk less in collabs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:55:51 2022 No.29009653 >>29009403 You get shills when the corporation is great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:55:56 2022 No.29009664 >>29009584 Tell her yourself. In a red SC to be sure she reads it on stream.

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 00:58:47 2022 No.29009934
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>>29008322
Any woman who is willing to dedicate a good chunk of her career pandering to grown men who will piss their adult diapers and call her a slut if she acknowleges her male coworkers has got to be menhara in some capacity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:01:25 2022 No.29010201 >>29002916 TT is radioactive for basically anyone but Mori. She would lose far more than she gained in a 1 off collab with them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:01:27 2022 No.29010206 >>28993946 Orange woman thinks with her head first. Good

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:06:21 2022 No.29010831 >>29005439 >consequences >keeps her fanbase Sounds like a good result to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:07:48 2022 No.29011139 >>28993946 their twitters read like cover went "reddit wants male vtubers right? let's hire some redditors"

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:08:01 2022 No.29011194

>>28993946
As much as some posters on this board love to hate Kiara after all this time, and to be fair, how often she says the WRONG thing and talks way too much, what she said here was absolutely the correct response.
You can't even spin this to shit on her, but it's funny seeing anons ITT try.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:09:51 2022 No.29011555 >>29011194 What are some more wrong things she has said. Need something for future orange board spamming.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:25:28 2022 No.29014533 >Says she won't watch their debut for being too late for her >KFPigs assume she will never watch them in her life

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 01:33:10 2022 No.29015830 >>29014533 ye

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 02:01:16 2022 No.29019899 >>29011555 She said bubba is not cute and i agree

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 02:02:18 2022 No.29020061 >>29014533 Tits or GTFO t. Kiara

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 02:14:28 2022 No.29022258 >>29014533 Why would she watch them? She doesn't even watch StarsJP and she understand those and they stream at better times for her. She hasn't made a single reference or acknowledgement to the Homos in almost two years, only until now with EN.

Anonymous Sun Jul 24 02:45:48 2022 No.29028424
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>>28993946
>>28994042
>>28998939
It's funny how every year /vt/ keeps doubting her, but she keeps proving you fucks wrong.
There's a reason why she switch from the male-collabing Fubuki to Pekora to look up to, so she could stay as a pure idol.

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