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ALL OUT WAR - PomuTori is kill Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:06:45 2022 No.28800773 [Reply] [Original]

Kiara just confirmed that "due to recent developments" it looks like a collab will NEVER happen.
It's over. The all out war is true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPw2vxjTaw&t=15897s

Discuss:
>What the FUCK did she mean by "recent developments"?
>It's OBVIOUS that Niji is the one blocking it since Kiara was allowed to send happy birthday video to Pomu but Pomu wasn't allowed to play it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:08:58 2022 No.28800913 >>28800773 Both sides are ar fault

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:10:22 2022 No.28801000 >>28800773 why don't they just collab on their non-work accounts, I don't understand it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:10:26 2022 No.28801004 Cover wouldn't let her say it if they were the one blocking it too. I guess someone in Niji EN really hate holoEN that much. Well even nijifag hate EN management anyway.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:10:58 2022 No.28801029

>>28800773
>What the FUCK did she mean by "recent developments"?
Obviously NijiEN6 debuting so soon after StarsEN. It's the only "recent developments" that makes sense.
>It's OBVIOUS that Niji is the one blocking it since Kiara was allowed to send happy birthday video to Pomu but Pomu wasn't allowed to play it
I think it's a problem on both sides honestly.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:14:28 2022 No.28801229

>>28801004
>Cover wouldn't let her say it if they were the one blocking it too.
That's true. However, I'd expect them to just ban the topic altogether (i.e: don't address this) if that's the case. Stuffs like how Kiara was able to name Pomu out in public recently ("Pomu", not "that girl', not "she", not anything else) and how the birthday video went made it sounds like NijiEN's side who is blocking it, too.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:14:58 2022 No.28801265
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I can't help but think this whole "issue" is born out of some insanely childish seethe. Even if you list all the potential reasons why it might be a "good business decision" to ban these collabs or whatever... They're clearly aware that the idols on both sides would like it to happen, in this case extremely so because they're basically off-stream friends. So they're choosing to punish them with that cockblock. For what exactly? Not to mention everyone knows about it by now because it sticks out like a sore thumb when both sides can collab with any other corp just fine (and even their JP sides are doing it).

It just seems so laughably petty and childish to fucking "blacklist" a huge company over basically nothing. At this point I really do think it's some CEO dick measuring type of deal and all the rrats about them "sabotaging" each other might as well be unironically true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:15:46 2022 No.28801306 >>28801029 >I think it's a problem on both sides honestly. Well obviously now it is regardless of what it was before

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:16:43 2022 No.28801364

>>28801029
NijiEN6 and Stars EN debuting around the same time was probably a given considering the ALL OUT WAR meme came from Stars EN auditions being announced right after NijiEN's post-Noctyx auditions

Considering Kiara made and sent a video to Pomu she must have thought there was a chance of it getting OK'd; the fact Pomu was told she couldn't show it has to be the "recent development"

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:17:08 2022 No.28801383

>>28801004
>>28801229
Another thing is that HoloID is blocked from collabing with NijiEN too. And HoloID historically has collabed with literally fucking everyone, their management is completely different from HoloEN and their "kids gloves" shit.

You can MAYBE mental gymnastics some bullshit about Holo blocking it, but Niji blocking it is 100% undeniable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:19:14 2022 No.28801512 B-but my Rosemauna plant review....

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:20:44 2022 No.28801607 File: 343 KB, 640x360, 1647063465115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ollie-Selen...... Ame-Selen.... Sana-Fulgur...... Millie-Moona..... ANYA PETRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:20:54 2022 No.28801619 >>28801383 Why specifically NijiEN though? Nijis from other branches Collab with holos all the time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:21:03 2022 No.28801629 Cool, so we can stop having threads about this right?

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:22:18 2022 No.28801715

>>28800773
This is a new development, but let’s not forget everything before that led to this point.

---The Kiarmu Timeline---
(only "important" interractions, most tweet/cute interractions skipped)
>First interactions Era: Pomu replies to Kiara's washing machine explosion and they talk about it
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1400864593719746562
https://files.catbox.moe/1me95f.png
one month later she replies to her again, no response
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1413562401518141442
>Kiara tweets waiting for Pomu after late to Karaoke after a month of no reply
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1419806052430893057
https://files.catbox.moe/79zqyy.png
>Kiara enters Pomu's stream Era
https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6493 (promises more Hello Project)
https://youtu.be/b9-iggvRWXw?t=15141
>She will visit me eventually
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=5876
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=10229
>Kanauru Gingerbread Rap Era
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=4985
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=12064
https://youtu.be/Xefr784MCkM?t=5401
>Kiara talks about how Pomu was the first non-Holo to message her right after her outfit reveal failed
https://youtu.be/BGxGY2jl6dw?t=23146
>Pomu dedicates a song to a "certain someone" (obviously for Kiara upon her previous requests from the last karaoke)
https://youtu.be/mDH4PFbAsIo?t=4197
>Selen and Pomu watch Kanauru's video and mention Kiara
https://youtu.be/EzbO9N-hX7k?t=36240
>Kanauru makes a special video for Kiara and Pomu
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1486132264299687937
>Kiara says she may have donated "quite a lot" of money to Pomu for her outfit reveal. Also reads some DMs she sent to Pomu
https://youtu.be/Y-yIyl4FOaw?t=21020
https://youtu.be/AKAM_MSN-FY?t=11051
>Pomu watched Kiara’s performance at the 3rd fes
https://streamable.com/ja1svc
>Kiara karaoke request 2: Electric Boogaloo (keeps going after the song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKxcJf8jUEw&t=3162s
>Pomutori German lesson?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5Pbuj-aYQ&t=17119s
>Pomu liebt Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5Pbuj-aYQ&t=17297s
>Daki Arc
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517277004885811201
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517473295481798656
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517572629615456256
>FOUR (4) mentions in 1 stream
Watches MGS streams: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=9063
Tingle is Pomu: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=11261
Sad Pomu: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=19118
Stuttering: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=23285
>TLoZWW
LITERALLY EVERY Kiara Zelda Wind Waker stream. Kiara has mentionned every Pomu in ever single stream at least once, either saying "forest fairy" or outright "Pomu"
>Niji Management blocks Pomu from showing Kiara's video on her birthday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAecWb_yTs&t=10390s

Bonus:
>Pomu means chubby
https://streamable.com/4hb9xn
>Bringing idolculture into HoloEN and NijiEN
https://streamable.com/11pizq
>>Kiara singing Diamond City Lights (what Pomu references above)
https://youtu.be/S66mI7Sku74?t=496
>Selen tries to avoid mentionning KFP in her analogy
https://youtu.be/DeCK8I_GQ4U?t=3532
>Kiara clarifies Hololive collab permissions. Says there's "only one person" who she wants to collab with nowadays. (Doesn't mention Nijisanji collab perms at all but mentions indies' and VSJ's positively).
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084
>Jail Sex RP
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1495566161030823941
>Going to Austria
https://youtu.be/0O5q5zvjN88?t=5345
>"Only one person calls me Pomuranian"
https://youtu.be/0O5q5zvjN88?t=13862

>All Kiara twitter mentions to Pomu
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Atakanashikiara)%20(to%3Apomurainpuff)&src=typed_query
>All Pomu twitter mentions to Kiara
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Apomurainpuff)%20(to%3Atakanashikiara)&src=typed_query&f=top

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:22:25 2022 No.28801721 >>28800773 Cover owns Kiara, Cover decides. They will just lose viewer in the long run, it's the right decision as a company

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:23:10 2022 No.28801773 File: 117 KB, 1280x720, 1652540627014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28801721

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:23:10 2022 No.28801772 >>28800773 >What the FUCK did she mean by "recent developments"? It's either the b-day video or the gen releases

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:23:56 2022 No.28801824

Reminder that Vox was able to just randomly show up in Mori's chat and she acknowledged him by name. This NEVER happened between Pomu and Kiara, they always have to use discord messages to communicate on-stream.

Dunno if this is just a "Luxiem can do whatever the fuck they want because NUMBER BIG" or if it's actually the girl gens specifically that are barred from collabing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:24:05 2022 No.28801835 >>28801364 I would've thought the same. Assuming their Twitter interactions weren't being curtailed, sending in a BD video seems a step down far enough from a collab to be accepted. Apparently not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:24:13 2022 No.28801844 >>28801619 Because there's no way my favorite company can be at fault. It's the other side. There, now repeat that for about 200 posts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:24:45 2022 No.28801882 Gura-Finana when.....??????

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:26:04 2022 No.28801959 >>28801824 man luxium should just randomly show up in holoen females streams, great shit

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:28:15 2022 No.28802085

Does anyone even care about this anymore? NijiEN collabs with everyone else (even got Miori before fucking Bae had a chance) and Hololive fans themselves can admit their girls aren't social butterflies, plus there's the Holo-bubble they used to chant about. I'm just glad this arc finally died.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:28:54 2022 No.28802121 >>28801619 Doesn't Nijisanji let their branches to basically manage themselves? That what made NijiKR such a shitshow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:28:54 2022 No.28802122 >>28800913 >both sides fucking kek am I on pol?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:29:12 2022 No.28802143 >>28801721 >Cover decides Cover has decided that this is OK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:29:45 2022 No.28802178 >>28801715 Yeah, this rings a bit hollow now doesn't it?

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:30:16 2022 No.28802218

>>28801844
Exactly, HoloID can collaborate with NijiJP just fine but not with NijiEN, which means that the management of ID is at fault, is just that simple.
Same as how NijiJP has no problems showing Gura on stream but NijiEN can't, that only proves that the fault falls on Gura and nobody else.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:30:32 2022 No.28802235

>>28800773
>It's OBVIOUS that Niji is the one blocking it since Kiara was allowed to send happy birthday video to Pomu but Pomu wasn't allowed to play it
Cover: Kiara, you can send a birthday message to Pomu, but only if you guarantee she won't use it on her stream.
Pomu: It's ok Kiara I don't want you to get in trouble

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:31:01 2022 No.28802270 Both EN branches have a rivalry while both JP and ID have shaken hands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:31:28 2022 No.28802302 It'd be funny if Pomu visits Austria like she once said and they just hang out offline and then Kiara tells stories about "meeting a forest fairy". Basically an off-collab and they can't do shit to stop it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:33:13 2022 No.28802415
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>>28802085
>Does anyone even care about this anymore?
Believe it or not, /vt/ is not "everyone" and yes a lot of people don't care about this faggot console war and want to watch cute girls be cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:33:33 2022 No.28802437 >>28802235 impressive mental gymnastics

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:33:42 2022 No.28802447 >>28802302 Noor and Omega would join forces to stop any of the girls meeting. Noor will go and burn Austria's electric network while Omega will go and make several bomb threats in all the American airports.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:34:04 2022 No.28802470 >>28801824 >This NEVER happened between Pomu and Kiara, they always have to use discord messages to communicate on-stream. In the early days, Kiara said that she didn't just communicate in her chat because she didn't want to derail her stream

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:34:19 2022 No.28802489
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>>28802122
>>28802143
Have you not paid attention the past week you dumb nigger?
Regardless of who it was before, it's definitely both now that wave6 came right after tempus. It was probably niji before and Holo saw that as a shot and also blocked it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:34:28 2022 No.28802502 >>28802085 Most people care in a "I want two streamers I like to stream together" way. Only the worst CEO-posting losers want the separation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:34:53 2022 No.28802524 >>28802218 >the fault falls on Gura and nobody else. wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:35:57 2022 No.28802573 >>28801229 Yeah this is what makes me think the block is on Niji's side. If Cover really didn't want this to happen, they wouldn't let Kiara talk about it at all.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:36:21 2022 No.28802599

Don't worry, this is what's going to happen
>tempus barely hitting 500 viewers post-debut
>petition to management to collab with Luxiem to boost their numbers
>NijiEN management only agrees if the girls are allowed as well
>HoloEN management acquiesces because Tempus needs to succeed
And there you go. You'll get your Pomutori collab by the end of September.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:37:12 2022 No.28802644 >>28802599 we all know that wont happen mostly because both most of myth and council hate streaming already

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:37:31 2022 No.28802659 >>28801229 Add to that Pomu wasn't or didn't wanted to name Kiara in her most recent twitter escapade during Kiara's birthday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:37:31 2022 No.28802660 >>28802599 >>tempus barely hitting 500 viewers post-debut Already stopped reading

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:38:04 2022 No.28802695 >>28800773 Fucking based.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:39:26 2022 No.28802758

>>28802489
You're making shit up. The only evidence we have is that blocked video from Kiara. We have nothing else to go on.
I don't believe in rrat that someone purposely rigged the same time for debuts. These things are not done in one day. Each company made the announcement when it was expected, at their pace.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:39:27 2022 No.28802759 File: 158 KB, 666x666, 1652920285009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28802489 why on earth would niji stop holo collabs? They have everything to gain from it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:39:36 2022 No.28802767

>>28801824
If a guy chuba plays the field, it makes him look popular to his fans while being a slap in the face to hers. Problem is, two women chubas from different companies are in direct competition with each other for the exact same fans. That's probably why the nijimen and their fujos can do whatever they want, while the other nijis exist solely as their ego boost.

Maybe they should start doing chaturbate streams if they want those big numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:39:50 2022 No.28802785 >>28802659 Eh maybe but people often read too much into that shit, like when people thought Kiara was avoiding saying Pomu for a while, even though she already said the name many times before and people just forgot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:41:55 2022 No.28802911 >>28800773 Peace was never an option.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:43:12 2022 No.28803005 >>28802415 >>28802502 Just watch the girls within the company be cute with one another my brothers in christ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:43:31 2022 No.28803023 >>28802759 that is the qeustion things point to nijien management but the reasoning is hard to come by

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:43:59 2022 No.28803050 >>28802235 >you can send a happy birthday video to Pomu as Kiara but only if literally, no one gets to see it Are you fucking retarded anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:44:02 2022 No.28803056 File: 62 KB, 546x642, FXZWDQRXwAgKc7s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder which holoEns watch vox's BFE rp streams

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:44:44 2022 No.28803098 >>28803056 Mori

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:44:56 2022 No.28803109 >>28803023 yes it is almost as though it makes literally no sense and it's a dumb rrat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:45:23 2022 No.28803132 >>28803005 I'd rather watch my actual favorites be cute with each other though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:45:40 2022 No.28803160 >>28803056 Whos fujo or yume in holoEN?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:47:07 2022 No.28803235 >>28801721 Yes, and Cover decided it was okay. Niji owns Pomu. And Niji, it seems, decided it was not okay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:47:57 2022 No.28803275 >>28801721 Fuck off only you stupid yuribaiters cares about this forced shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:48:15 2022 No.28803284 File: 1.05 MB, 1000x1288, Noor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28802759 Ask Noor

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:48:32 2022 No.28803295 >Holo and Niji butt heads >Vshoujo, AmaLee, Miori and Pika get to collab with both. Funny how things work out. I'm most surprised to see AmaLee get that kind of opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:49:59 2022 No.28803359 >>28803109 Because they are scared the "Hololive bad!" nijifags will abandon them once they actually watch a Holo talent and see how much better they are. Niji girls can't take that risk they are already 3 views

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:50:17 2022 No.28803370 >>28802270 If this was the case, Cover would have never allowed Kiara to send Pomu the birthday video. But, we know that it was Niji that decided that Pomu couldn't show it on stream after Cover gave Kiara the go-ahead.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:50:33 2022 No.28803383
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>NijiID collabs with HoloID
>NijiID collabs with HoloJP

>HoloID collabs with NijiID
>HoloJP collabs with NijiJJP

>HoloEN cannot collab with anyone in Niji at all
>NijiEN cannot collab with anyone in Holo at all

What monetary incentive was there to do this decision? Genuine question.
Yes the JP and ID branches will interact with each other and cross with each other still after this. Hell I bet there will be one next week. So I struggle to find why this decision was made, for BOTH parties.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:51:00 2022 No.28803404 Chink company vs non-chink company. Omega doesn't want to deal with the dumbass spam in the EN chat and the aftermath of it when us retards sperg out on twitter/facebook. Who can blame him?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:52:18 2022 No.28803464 >>28803404 So why can the JPs collab? They play chink games and appear in billi events.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:53:03 2022 No.28803497 >>28801824 Millie and Moona have showed up in each others chat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:53:27 2022 No.28803517 >>28803404 >HURR CHINK COMPANY NIGGER THAT'S FUCKING IRRELEVANT THEY STILL HAVE COLLABS A L L THE FUCKING TIME IT'S ONLY EN THAT'S BLOCKED THERE'S NO FUCKING REALISTIC REASON THAT THERE'S A BLOCK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:53:27 2022 No.28803516 >>28803383 Ironically, Mel and RBC had a collab with Nijis a few hours ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:53:35 2022 No.28803528 File: 291 KB, 498x494, 1657583178770.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28800773 Good. Sick of Chimkin trying to leech off of my oshi

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:53:57 2022 No.28803544

>>28803383
To our knowledge, the only people in Niji and Holo that are interested in collabing together are Kiara and Pomu.

Ofc, we know that Kiara was allowed to send Pomu the birthday video but Pomu was **not allowed** to show it.

To me, it's a case of NijiEN maybe thinking that they can overtake HoloEN in the future, and so they don't want to risk any of their fans becoming HoloEN fans at all.

Considering the facts, that's all I've got.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:54:02 2022 No.28803546 >>28803383 >>28803516 Lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEP7lSEPt0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEP7lSEPt0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEP7lSEPt0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEP7lSEPt0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:54:08 2022 No.28803553 >>28803383 also new holojp and nijijps dont colab because they dont care about each other

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:54:44 2022 No.28803582 File: 89 KB, 342x283, 1655487739538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28801715 >someone actually went to the trouble to compile all of these moments Autismchads....I KNEEL

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:55:21 2022 No.28803614 It's literally just both EN managements having big egos and not wanting to cooperate. Meanwhile, Vshojo sees the potential for growth in the market and has collabed with both NijiEN and HoloEN, several times now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:55:24 2022 No.28803618 >>28803544 (Me) >The only people in NijiEN and HoloEN, I meant to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:55:52 2022 No.28803633 File: 187 KB, 224x300, pomu-beg[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fhph26w.m4a].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28803528

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:56:45 2022 No.28803673 >>28803544 One thing with the birthday event, if the reverse happened and Kiara wasn't able to show Pomu's message on stream, would people still say that Niji was blocking it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:56:50 2022 No.28803678 File: 677 KB, 895x542, 1657466776825.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28800773 Recent developments means the return of Omega.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:56:58 2022 No.28803691

>>28803614
The thing is, it doesn't have to be a "both ways" thing for collabs to not happen. If one EN management has an ego and doesn't want it to happen, it won't.

So, it could very well be either JUST HoloEN or JUST NijiEN blocking these collabs off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:57:49 2022 No.28803732 >>28803614 Damn bratty side branches....thinking that they're so big....they need correction!!!

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:58:25 2022 No.28803766

>>28803673
It depends on whether Pomu would be able to directly mention Kiara the way that Kiara did with her. That's how we know Niji blocked it, after all, is because Kiara routinely mentions Pomu by name on stream, whereas I think Pomu almost never does.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:58:50 2022 No.28803789 So now that NijiEN is off the table, are the Holo girls free to collab with the likes of Phase, Prism and Kawaii?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:59:28 2022 No.28803813 It's not fair, I just want them to idolfag together at least once

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:00:17 2022 No.28803851
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>>28803789
They can collab with almost every (besides Kson, Nazume, and all of NijiEN, and Pipshit of course)
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:00:34 2022 No.28803869 >>28800773 >due to recent developments /b/omu pics

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:01:47 2022 No.28803929 >>28800773 BASED. Fuck those 2

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:02:06 2022 No.28803955

>>28803383
It'd be one thing if neither party cares for collabing, but it doesn't make sense outside of staff at both EN companies having a massive ego. And ONLY EN companies, which makes it more baffling why Asian branches are cooler with each other.
I guess Cover doesn't want to do anything unless they can benefit as a business from it, and Anykara is just petty/seething so they wont do it either. That or they don't want to give their male audience away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:02:37 2022 No.28803975 >>28803851 Pippa is in with Fauna, give up.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:02:39 2022 No.28803976

>>28803789
Depends on the branch. HoloID gives no fucks and collabs with anyone. EN is kind of super autistic about it and apparently meticulously check if the corp is "ng" according to whatever standards they use. But it is possible, as seen with Vshojo, VOMS and Noripro. It just usually takes a while to be allowed, for whatever reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:04:05 2022 No.28804044 >>28803976 I'm waiting on Ollie to scope them out since I believe she's the most outgoing of the ID girls that can speak English.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:04:37 2022 No.28804068 >>28803975 She's familiar with her, but you think management would ever greenlight that collab? She's changing and becoming less of a yab magnet from what I see, but there's no chance since management is probably made aware of her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:05:42 2022 No.28804113 >>28803404 I'm no fan of China myself but when there's no issue between the JP & ID branches of the 2 brands then the zhangs can't really be at fault here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:05:50 2022 No.28804119 >>28801265 It is Japanese autism about "company honour" that's leads to console war between vtuber company. Upper management on both side as fragile as /vt/user

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:07:29 2022 No.28804206
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>>28803851
It's crazy how much knowledge Kiara has dropped about the business side of Hololive. We'd be pretty damn ignorant of shit without her. Like in this case she basically confirms that HoloEN does do background checks into the past of anyone they collab with and blacklists them if they are "controversial".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:08:44 2022 No.28804274 Legit question. Which companies has HoloEN collabed with? outside HoloJP/ID/Stars

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:09:25 2022 No.28804311 >>28801824 >>28801265 the schizo rrat is that both sides are blueballing the collab to create clips/publicity for both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:09:54 2022 No.28804334 >>28804274 Vshojo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:10:11 2022 No.28804350 >>28803132 Tough luck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:11:08 2022 No.28804400 >>28804274 VOMS through Pikamee and vSho through Nyanners

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:11:34 2022 No.28804427

>>28803766
i wonder if jenma could actually prevent kiara from showing a pomu video. and if she would even side with cover on this. from todays stream it seems kiara and jenma don't only like each other as coworkers, so it would be an interesting situation. even if we probably would never hear of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:11:50 2022 No.28804441 >>28804334 will that keep happening anymore?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:12:02 2022 No.28804445 >>28804274 Ina has had one with Pikamee and Bae's recent karaoke with Miori, so that's at least VOMS & Tsunderia that are kosher

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:12:06 2022 No.28804450 >>28803789 Moona's collabed with Iku from Prism but i believe that's the only interaction between Holo/Prism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:12:39 2022 No.28804477 >>28804441 last month bae was with mouse

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:13:01 2022 No.28804497 >>28804445 >Tsunderia Miori is independent right now

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:13:10 2022 No.28804503
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>>28803614
Imho it's both this and massive incompetence from the management on both sides.
It seems to me like neither of the EN Branches bothered (let alone made any effort) to establish any sort of proper cordial relations with one another, the same way the other branches have, even when talents on both sides started following/interacting with one another.
That's the only logical explanation I can think of that makes any real sense.
Tl;dr - Both sides are at fault and it's down to sheer incompetence, pettiness, tribalfaggotry, and overall general stupidity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:13:12 2022 No.28804506 >>28804445 Miori is no longer tsunderia, she went independent and got to keep her model

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:13:24 2022 No.28804515 >>28804274 VShojo, VOMS, NobiPro, Tsunderia

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:13:26 2022 No.28804516 >>28801004 >Cover wouldn't let her say it Dude both Mori and Kiara openly complained about management on streams it's not like they would get fired for mentioning the issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:14:28 2022 No.28804569 >>28804506 miori is also pretty yabai sometimes, so we know it's not the nijis toilet humor preventing a collab.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:14:37 2022 No.28804576 >>28803370 Maybe Kiara sent the video without a green light from management, and that's why Pomu couldn't play it and this may be the circumstances.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:15:47 2022 No.28804629 >>28803976 >It just usually takes a while to be allowed, for whatever reason. My guess is that hololive thought vshojo was an AV company and took a long time until they went through the rest of the members.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:15:56 2022 No.28804638 >>28804497 >>28804506 My bad, don't follow them so I wasn't aware of that, my point about VOMS still stands and other comments have reminded me the VShojo were good (as to if they still are due to recent signings is a separate question)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:17:12 2022 No.28804692 >>28804441 Probably not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:18:19 2022 No.28804744 >>28804576 You should apply for the olympics

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:18:26 2022 No.28804748 I mean, I don't want to sound rude but associating with Pomu officially isn't a good marketing move. Even if /vt/ likes her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:20:39 2022 No.28804857 If all 3 of the top EN groups had unity then all the small fish wouldn't stand a chance. This gives them a fighting chance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:20:47 2022 No.28804863 >>28804744 everyone's making up stupid shit, so I might as well contribute

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:23:26 2022 No.28804983 >>28804748 Why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:24:32 2022 No.28805034 And thank god for that.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:25:12 2022 No.28805060

>>28803976
>Depends on the branch. HoloID gives no fucks and collabs with anyone
Moonafic, almost all of her recent outside from outside Hololive have been with non corpo vtubers. Liliana is the only corpo vtuber she still interacts with semi-regularly and she's Malaysian.
She hasn't collabed with Nyori family in well over a year which is by the far the longest we've gone without a Nyori family collab, possible rrat she's no longer allowed to due to Iku?
Has Ollie collabed with any EN corpo tubers recently? Feel like they've all been inde's or ID tubers.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:25:38 2022 No.28805086

What I’m confused by is that they’re allowed to interact with each other so why is a collab a line that they’re not allowed to cross?

Hell, they’re not the only two who interact with each other. Millie and Moona, Vox+Mysta and Axel, Vox and Mori, and multiple nijiens have interacted with holostars.

Interaction on twitter and youtube is fine, but making a stream together isn’t?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:26:01 2022 No.28805102 >>28804576 Why would Pomu not be allowed to play because of Cover if Kiara sent the video without Cover's consent? This is mental gymnastics, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:26:32 2022 No.28805129 >>28800913 Kiara is able to talk about Pomu no problem but Pomu isn't able to talk about Kiara unless she alludes to it. Seems like there is only one side that is stonewalling the other here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:27:03 2022 No.28805153 >>28805129 This ^

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:27:31 2022 No.28805179 >>28805086 The most boring and realistic option - companies simply can not agree on what terms to cooperate and how to divide the money from the streams.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:28:27 2022 No.28805225 >>28803359 dyrbi anon that's fucking retarded there is literally no world where a collab hurts them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:29:16 2022 No.28805272 This is Omega's fault

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:30:59 2022 No.28805336 >>28805086 desu I generally wonder how much of this is because a huge proportion of NijiEN are massive holofags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:31:01 2022 No.28805339 >>28805129 Pomu was the first to bring up Kiara by name on stream and she continues to do so regularly. You don't watch Nijisanji streams.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:32:05 2022 No.28805383 File: 56 KB, 1104x809, 2232.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28800773 I bet AnyColor was intentionally waiting to debut EN Wave 6 around the same time Holostars EN debuts, and Cover wasn't happy about it at all. It's truly all out war.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:32:39 2022 No.28805405

>>28803160
When Ame found the BL book in Holocure for the first time, she thought it was a Kiara exclusive item at first (because she was playing as Kiara and didn't know how the game worked yet), and said it should have been her own item instead. I don't know if that was supposed to mean that she actually likes BL or just some kind of joke, I don't normally watch her.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:33:37 2022 No.28805446

>>28805086
have you see how often people complain about stuff if it ends up on stream but when its on twitter they dont care that much?
>>28805129
niji staff are known favouritismfags these days so it may not even be a blocking thing but pomu isnt willing to call their bluff as often while kiara is willing to call holostaffs bluff and push the boundaries.
but overall considering how greedy anycolor has become, theyre less likely to block a collab that would help them make more money.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:34:33 2022 No.28805491 >>28805129 that isn't true, Pomu's referenced Kiara before by name. Has kiara every called Pomu by name on stream? I know she's said shit like "a certain fairy" but even the clip at the top of thread doesn't include her saying Pomu by name.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:35:30 2022 No.28805534 >>28800773 Thats a good thing, NijiEN has proven to be rotten at its core. You got in bed with it Pomu, live with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:37:04 2022 No.28805603 >>28805491 (me) yea kiara has referenced Pomu on stream, found some clips.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:38:06 2022 No.28805654 >>28805129 Not that Pomu hesitates to talk about Kiara. It seems to be her personal decision. For example, because she is smaller and wary of being accused of leeching. https://streamable.com/49l66g

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:38:10 2022 No.28805663 File: 740 KB, 1337x1080, 55D67E4C-93F0-41FF-8BFE-A4003A280D8F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28803160 I don’t know if she still does, but Ame used to play otome games and read yaoi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:38:35 2022 No.28805684 >>28805405 >>28803160 Ame used to read romantic TF2 fanfics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybm5Su5CXSI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:38:35 2022 No.28805683 File: 1.05 MB, 1200x1194, both sides are wrong.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28800913

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:39:55 2022 No.28805770 >>28805683 the explanation is combining the argument against both sides

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:41:02 2022 No.28805828 >>28801607 Selen-My fat cock AAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:42:18 2022 No.28805884 >>28805405 Ame used to read omegaverse fanfics where men get pregnant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:43:22 2022 No.28805931 File: 65 KB, 850x831, 1C5389B5-1142-4789-BB3A-6FBBAFF7F70A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28805684 https://youtube.com/watch?v=A4njaF0RGok

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:44:37 2022 No.28805994 >>28804983 Different kind of content.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:46:28 2022 No.28806080 >>28805405 Gura poked fun of Ame’s fondness for BL in recent months IIRC

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:46:32 2022 No.28806088 >>28805994 It doesn't make sense, Kiara had a collab with Nyanners.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:50:27 2022 No.28806265 >>28802235 >>28804576 Gold medalist for mental gymnastics ITT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:50:28 2022 No.28806266 >>28801715 >Kiara talks about how Pomu was the first non-Holo... Not 'non-holo', but the first vtuber in general. Also found this clip, not sure if you have it listed: https://streamable.com/hhq01r

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:52:15 2022 No.28806363 >>28804274 Vshojo, VOMS, Miori, Milky, Boogey voxx, Trash Taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 21:52:36 2022 No.28806380 >>28806088 Nyanners got to collab with fucking Kizuna. As much as I hate pink cat she somehow managed to get a free pass for collabs.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:00:00 2022 No.28806749

I'm a Nijifag but I think it's Niji blocking it just because they're afraid of Hololive's Chinese antis taking aim at NijiEN.

At this point both Holo and Niji would benefit from collabs since Holo desperately needs to boost StarsEN and Niji would benefit from the Holo clipfags promoting them. So it's not really a decision based around growth/profits but just paranoia about a potential scandal. Especially when Luxiem's fanbase are 80% Chinese women and Vox has a bilibili channel with over 1m subs pissing off the Chinese is the last thing the branch wants to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:02:35 2022 No.28806884 >>28806749 the chinese women arent the same one who are pissed at hololive, in fact theyre vox's bitches so likely theyll not going to start shit because they dont wanna hurt m'lord

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:08:58 2022 No.28807195

>>28806884
That's not what I meant. Vox's fans couldn't care less about Hololive. However Vox already has a lot of Chinese men bitter at him for seducing their women. Those incels have a large overlap with Hololive's old antis. The only reason they aren't already spamming Luxiem's chats to scare off the women is because Nijisanji and Bilibili are very closely affiliated and they see Niji as a China-friendly company.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:10:42 2022 No.28807275

>>28800773
They should just both do it. What the fuck is going to happen? Whichever company punishes their employee first means the other company wins, if they both get punished then both companies are out a talent for no good reason.
Oh no they might lose the behind the scenes support they so clearly don't get, now they'll have to go to Kanauru like usual.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:13:21 2022 No.28807399 >>28807195 bilibili is the reason were in this mess to begin with. chinese antis will be zhangs no matter the connections those they anti have

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:15:24 2022 No.28807499 >>28801004 >Cover wouldn't let her say it if they were the one blocking it too. Anon, has Kiara EVER kept her mouth shut on shit Cover didn't want her to say? If anything, Kiara saying it is evidence it's on Cover's side

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:18:22 2022 No.28807681 Remember that after Kson and Rushia jumped ship, Holobronies were saying that Nijisanji and Cover would unite against Vshojo?

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:20:07 2022 No.28807789

>>28805060
Ollie had AmaLee, Merry and some Vshoujo. Her not collabing with some of the big EN indies or the small corpos despite being very open to all sorts of collabs is the one reason why I think even the IDs are somewhat restricted when it comes to EN collabs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:20:31 2022 No.28807813 >>28803005 No. I am not a corporate bootlicker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:22:02 2022 No.28807894 >>28807499 Yes, you fucking threadreader faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:22:38 2022 No.28807945 >>28807681 Why would they unite against literall who non company vtuber?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:29:07 2022 No.28808272 >>28807945 Because Kson pissed off chinks(Nijisanji) and Rishia pissed off cover, that was the reasoning anyway.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:31:48 2022 No.28808397

>>28807894
Kiara has leaked so much it isn't even funny
>first to confirm the girl didn't like omega
>first to share the ridiculous management's rules on the minecraft server
>literally just outed Bae's personal problems THIS WEEK

are you the threadreading faggot or do you actually watch your loudmouth oshi?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:33:36 2022 No.28808474 >>28808397 Meds

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:33:48 2022 No.28808486 >>28804274 Not surprised only one anon remembers that Kiara had a collab with Tamaki from NoriPro since it was in Japanese. Vshojo via Nyanners and Mousey are well known and most people remember VOMS via Pikamee as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:33:49 2022 No.28808487 >>28802524 you really need the /s/?

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:37:37 2022 No.28808683

>>28800773
It would be a shitty Collab if it did happen. The only thing they really have in common is their interest in idol groups, and they can't really talk about that without getting into PL stuff. Otherwise it would be:
> Kiara talks about life in Austria while Pomu tries to avoid saying where she lives
> Pomu makes sex jokes that make Kiara feel awkward

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:38:40 2022 No.28808732 >>28808474 >kiara is a loudmouth >MEDS MEDS NOW SCHIZO MEDS NTA but even Kiara would agree she's a loudmouth, it's not that deep bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:40:10 2022 No.28808804 >>28808397 >>first to confirm the girl didn't like omega rrats from /vt/ misinterpreting her jokes >>first to share the ridiculous management's rules on the minecraft server ??? >>literally just outed Bae's personal problems THIS WEEK Meds

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:41:04 2022 No.28808848 >>28808732 She has said she doesn't understand where the "loudmouth" meme comes from

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:41:14 2022 No.28808867 >>28808397 Why’re you just making shit up anon Meaning thr Bae shit. The other two you should already know if you aren’t braindead

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:41:24 2022 No.28808874 >>28808272 >Because Kson pissed off chinks(Nijisanji) Ok >Rushia pissed of cover Never happened, the girl is just dumbass bitch, move on

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:41:25 2022 No.28808876 >>28808732 She said the exact opposite at least three times. Claiming that everything she says she has the right to say it and was never in trouble with her manager. Not even once.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:42:17 2022 No.28808927

>>28808804
The omega thing was absolutely not a joke, she was pretty bitter and pissed. Someone else can get timestamps, I'm a mobilefag, but it was in the same minecraft stream with the infamous hole. Not the jokes she told about omega later (which, to be honest, were still a bit bitter.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:42:51 2022 No.28808955 >>28808397 This is your brain on schizophrenia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:43:14 2022 No.28808974 >>28808927 Meds

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:44:21 2022 No.28809049 >>28808927 Meds nigga

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:44:53 2022 No.28809076 >>28808927 Jokes are JOKES anonchama

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:46:16 2022 No.28809134 >>28808876 It's funny because even in that very stream today with the Bae """"""""""leak"""""""""" she made fun of these retards saying something like "Oh nyoo, Kiara leaked the fact that we will be sad!"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:46:44 2022 No.28809161 File: 870 KB, 1269x671, 423423526.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28808876 >trusting kiara to have an accurate read on her social skills lmao

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:51:16 2022 No.28809417
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This entire situation is fucking retarded. It shouldn’t have even gotten this far. Nijis and Holos collab all the fucking time constantly some do even more with nijis than their own genmates and vice versa. This is the pettiest shit I’ve seen in my entire life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:51:57 2022 No.28809453 >>28809161 >posts a joke Very ironic anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:53:53 2022 No.28809548 >>28808397 >first to share the ridiculous management's rules on the minecraft server >literally just outed Bae's personal problems THIS WEEK Qrd on these 2?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:54:31 2022 No.28809578 Omegalul comeback , Orange chicken complanning about management, what a coincidence

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:55:46 2022 No.28809649 >>28809548 >Common sense and >Literal bullshit he made up and Kiara literally called out retards like him who’d call it “leaking” in that very moment

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:56:18 2022 No.28809681 >>28809417 Why don't Pomu and Kiara play with each other off-stream?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 22:59:20 2022 No.28809843 >>28809681 Because then they can't milk it for numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:01:49 2022 No.28809988 >>28808683 >and they can't really talk about that without getting into PL stuff No? They've both talked a bunch about idols on stream already, it wouldn't get into PL talk at all

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:06:27 2022 No.28810239 >>28808683 You’re fucking retarded and obviously watch neither

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:07:54 2022 No.28810322 >Pomu can't mention Kiara by name But Finana very recently talked about how she watched Kiara play stray so no I don't think management is forbidding them from talking about HoloENs

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:08:36 2022 No.28810368

>>28803359
98% of NijiEN girls fans are former/current fans of Hololive, that reasoning is retarded. I stopped watching HoloEN because every member except Gura bored me, and I didn't want to put up with her weeks long unexplained absences. A PomuTori collab is not going to make me suddenly interested in HoloEN again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:09:23 2022 No.28810414 >>28810322 Proof? Also yes I do agree, people always say they can’t even though they have many times

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:10:19 2022 No.28810464 >>28810368 Didn't know HoloEn was just Gura, Ina, and Mori

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:16:38 2022 No.28810826 We already know that Omega is blocking the collab because he hates Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:20:12 2022 No.28811044 there's like 30 ppl in niji and holo en yet only these two make a noise

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:21:23 2022 No.28811105 >>28809843 Yeah, I'm numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:22:23 2022 No.28811163 >>28810414 Here's the timestamp https://youtu.be/nkQ1RNPIi5Q?t=16692 So Niji management isn't prohibiting them from mentioning them and it's probably Pomu being a bit paranoid

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:29:09 2022 No.28811533 nijisanji EN has the right to protect their chuubas from being accused of leeching by anons in 4chan it's for their own mental well-being

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:47:51 2022 No.28812649 File: 31 KB, 725x674, CC72F1C7-AB22-4F25-8123-B73A4ACB2FBC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maybe this was already brought up but the fish watches Kiara https://youtu.be/nkQ1RNPIi5Q?t=16692 I heard about the Pomu thing that sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:48:23 2022 No.28812671 File: 387 KB, 1072x1384, 1658380699981955.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] None can come close ever since

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:50:10 2022 No.28812770

>>28811163
Honestly idc who is blocking the collab, it's just retarded at this point. The longer they block the collab the more fans are gonna start coming up with their own narratives. It's especially retarded that they both can collab with Vshojo but not each other.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:55:24 2022 No.28813097

>>28806749
>>28807195
The Chinese have no issues with HoloEN. Gura is still big over there.
They wouldn't give a shit about ENs collabing, let alone Pomu/Kiara.
If it were them, then HoloJP wouldn't be able to collab with NijiJP at all, since they were after the JPs/Coco.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:01:30 2022 No.28813451 >>28803359 >"Hololive bad!" nijifags will abandon them once they actually watch a Holo are you fucking retarded? most nijien fans are ex/current holoen fans(excluding the males, they a completely different fanbase).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:15:58 2022 No.28814296 >>28808397 Is this why retards on /vt/ think Kiara is a leaker? You niggers are unironically retarded, holy shit.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:22:05 2022 No.28814643

HoloEN rejected collabs with NijiEN when NijiEN was small because they didn't want to give NijiEN any exposure.
As retaliation NijiEN blocked HoloEN back.
Which is why Pomu can't show Kiara's happy birthday video.
This might change once Tempus debuts because HoloEN might have a motivation to have them collab with the NijiEN males because they will have the bigger numbers.
It could lead to an exchange, HoloEN lets their girls collab with NijiEN and NijiEN lets their males collab with HoloEN's males.
This is assuming Cover's EN management considers this a worthy exchange, they are basically taking a shortcut with Tempus giving it extra exposure in exchange for helping NijiEN's girls have more exposure.
We don't know how serious Cover is about the EN stars yet.
For all we know they might be thrown into the wild, banned from collabing with the girls or anybody else and left to stagnate.
Or maybe they will do everything they can to help their chances to succeed, we'll see.

Personally I don't think this collab would be anything special and I don't give a fuck about what the talents want, they're just employees.
I agree with Cover's decision so far of blocking collabs with NijiEN.
They wouldn't gain anything from helping them out for free and this is a very cutthroat business.
What they do in Japan is a relic of older times when the industry wasn't as competitive and everyone helped each other and collabbed.
But EN is a new game with new rules and Cover is playing to win.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:30:02 2022 No.28815121 >>28810368 No, they aren't. Most of the girls are nijisanji fans or like both vtubers from both agencies.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:33:39 2022 No.28815377

>>28815121
He's talking about fans of the vtuber girls, not female viewers fans.
And he's right, almost everyone who got into Lazlulight, Obsydia or Ethyria was already a fan of Hololive.
Pretty much the entire vtuber audience in the west was a fan of Hololive up to that point.
Only Luxiem brought a completely new audience who had not been interested in Vtubers already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:47:04 2022 No.28816162 Retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:53:25 2022 No.28816550 >>28815377 Sure, a big number of fans came from holo but with luxiem it brought a new audience and also fans who came from other niji branches.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 00:56:19 2022 No.28816730

>>28816550
There's little overlap between the two audiences tho.
Most of the ex hololive audience who watches the girls won't bother watching the guys or the other way around, the fangirls of the boys don't really watch the girl's streams.
There's only overlap during collabs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 01:03:07 2022 No.28817255 It's me. I'm blocking it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 01:57:29 2022 No.28821028 WAAAAAAR

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 01:57:58 2022 No.28821054 >>28816730 Not really true, several of the female EN livers have mentioned that their female audience demographics increased significantly after Luxiem debuted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:00:46 2022 No.28821224 https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1550274115000565763 It's definitely nijiEN blocking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:08:17 2022 No.28821745 >>28821054 maybe from 0% to 5% lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:20:32 2022 No.28822629 >>28821224 who is this person? mori?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:22:10 2022 No.28822748 >>28822629 everything lines up with it being her, yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:25:16 2022 No.28822971 File: 30 KB, 694x178, 1630870528425.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Collab ban? What collab ban? Nijisanji and Hololive are in a healthy relationship. There is no competition going on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:27:17 2022 No.28823105 >>28800773 Good, keep NijiEN away.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:28:05 2022 No.28823162 Reminder that there would be nothing stopping kiara and pommers from collabing if they had Talent Freedom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:32:09 2022 No.28823421 >>28822971 link to the thread?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 02:39:17 2022 No.28823894 >>28823421 https://www.reveddit.com/v/Hololive/comments/w4uam1/after_recent_developments_kiara_feels_she_will/?add_user=Typical_Thought_6049..c.new..t1_ih4gh30..&

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:18:28 2022 No.28827015 >>28822971 Pretty sure bringing up other companies there is against the rules anyways geniuschama

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:21:18 2022 No.28827215 >>28827015 It was literally just a clip of Kiara talking. The comments weren’t even having any arguments, just discussing the facts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:23:34 2022 No.28827364 >>28800913 No it definitely looks like it's all on nijisanji's side now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:26:08 2022 No.28827541 >>28801229 >stuffs Stop posting on /vt/ Anya

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:28:47 2022 No.28827750 >>28802759 Who knows, if it was Niji that blocked then they are dumb as fuck for it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:29:45 2022 No.28827816 >>28801721 You think Pomu went to Hololive management to ask if she could show Kiara’s video?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:32:28 2022 No.28828029 >>28802759 The audience would move to Hololive when they realize how shitty their streamers are in comparison

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:35:32 2022 No.28828277 >>28805086 Because it would be a pain in the ass for managers to block any and all interaction

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:36:55 2022 No.28828388 >Hololive always overlapped with NijiEN debuts >NijiEN management does nothing >NijiEN debuts wave 6 a day after Tempus >Omega throws a fit Why is he like this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:37:07 2022 No.28828401 >>28802502 What if I just want Kiara and that slut to be unhappy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:39:28 2022 No.28828615 >>28828401 Then you're due for your estrogen treatment

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:40:09 2022 No.28828663 >>28828401 >make Kiara or Pomu sad and lonely This is just a ploy so you can marry one of them, isn't it anon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:40:37 2022 No.28828703 >>28822748 Which is weird because Enna's mentioned Mori by name multiple times on stream? They're just now ramping up tribalfaggotry? Who is even benefiting from this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:40:45 2022 No.28828714 >>28828388 It’s probably less to do with what Niji are doing directly and more so what happened with Vshojo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:43:44 2022 No.28828975 >>28803056 Irys and bae eat each other out while listening to him

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:44:56 2022 No.28829077 >>28828703 Not us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:45:36 2022 No.28829146 >>28827816 That is how permissions work in Japan. Remember the Holocaust?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:47:28 2022 No.28829301 >>28800773 Can somebody send me the complaint links for both companies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 03:49:45 2022 No.28829494 >>28828714 Rindou and Rion just played with Mel yesterday. It's just HoloEN and NijiEN management being retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:14:12 2022 No.28831544 >>28829301 Understand, Niji will only respond to complains entirely in Chinese Holo will not respond to complaints

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:34:55 2022 No.28833291 >>28821224 >>28822748 Nope, Millie was tweeting about Mysta asking her for a collab https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1550327845334958080 You holofags need to stop peddling rrats

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:44:47 2022 No.28834120 unironically giving a shit about this is such a reddit thing

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:46:40 2022 No.28834256 >>28834120 Stop using random buzzowords newfriend

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:47:20 2022 No.28834308 >>28834256 cope harder

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:52:54 2022 No.28834733 File: 1.05 MB, 680x823, 1655539035950.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28834120

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:53:17 2022 No.28834754 >Imagine caring about a fucking vtuber collab

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 04:53:40 2022 No.28834783 >>28834120 go back normalfag piece of waste

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 05:07:21 2022 No.28835821 >>28834783 My dude you're the one bitching because two corpos aren't allowed to collab and acting like hysterical little girls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 05:14:09 2022 No.28836298 >>28835821 I just find it funny how two huge corpos are getting their panties in a bundle just because two girls want to play clubhouse games together

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 05:18:51 2022 No.28836569 >>28805405 Her favorite Star is a fundanshi, alongside what everybody else said.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 05:29:05 2022 No.28837199 >>28836298 It's a business move from Cover to avoid giving Nijisanji exposure and Nijisanj is just responding with the same policy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 05:58:07 2022 No.28838870 trump lost

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:37:23 2022 No.28840535 >>28837199 These aren't company wide policies though, it's just the EN managers on both sides throwing bitchfits. That's what makes this full on faggotry.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:40:08 2022 No.28840630

>>28809548
Probably when she talked about management telling her to close the hole in Minecraft after Suisei fell into it. It's a random 1x1 hole that goes straight down deep enough to die and nobody knows where it comes from. It is fairly hidden so finding it again after death is hard as Kiara noticed herself after falling into it. Twice.
Kiara "fixed" it by putting a slime block at the bottom. Now you will survive the fall and are left stranded deep inside a cave system.

Someone put "drinking my sorrows away" into their internal schedule. Kiara assumed it's about Sana's graduation and when chat went "drinking = Mori" she said it's not her.
So now shizos are saying she called Bae an alcoholic on stream.
Also when chat went "oh no, she is leaking things again" she made fun of them by saying "oh no, I leaked that we are sad about Sana's graduation, how could I?"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:43:33 2022 No.28840794 >>28803005 go back to twitter fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:07:19 2022 No.28841967 >>28840630 I remember the minecraft part, the hole wasn't a problem until suisei fell into it. kiara got a message from management the same day to go fix it. the blue woman didn't really care about it from what I recall

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:09:27 2022 No.28842068 >>28800773 man I just wanted them to collab, be cute and sperg about idols for a few hours...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:10:48 2022 No.28842124 >>28842068 Who do we need to blackmail to make this happen? I'm willing to put that weapon's-grade autism to good use.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:14:33 2022 No.28842295 >>28828663 >Pomu >sad and lonely Half of NijiEN are people she knew and were friends for years. The only one being sad and lonely is Kiara who can't make real friends in her branch.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:17:57 2022 No.28842454
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>>28842068
at least I have this to look forward to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcgBxCB2tk
nyaru is the indie equivalent to kiara/pomu, an ex-idol idolfag that knows a lot about the industry. Pippa likes idols so hopefully she'll be bearable this stream...

but not being able to get a pomutori idolsperging collab sucks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 07:59:05 2022 No.28844323 >>28840630 Anon there is a clip where it was proven that it Ame who dug the hole

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 09:48:48 2022 No.28849368 >>28800773 neat

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:05:11 2022 No.28850117 >>28801265 Chinks have the instructions to "block the orange woman" but didn't specify more than that lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:07:48 2022 No.28850283 >>28803370 I mean, she could've just sent her a video as a friend and said "you're not allowed to show it on stream though, sorry". Not saying that is or isn't what happened, but I don't see why its outside the realm of possibility.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:13:24 2022 No.28850592 >>28821745 Closer to like, from 10% to 30% in a lot of cases

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:14:40 2022 No.28850653 >>28821224 Mysta replied to Mori directly like 2 hours before that tweet Also, Millie is retarded I wouldn't take that as indicative of anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:18:19 2022 No.28850829 >>28806749 The niji Anya girl is in fault

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 10:52:48 2022 No.28852215 >>28822971 Is the Nijisanji reddit moderated by official staff too? Cause I just checked it and the first post had a Holostar EN member, lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 11:04:00 2022 No.28852723 >>28800773 >"recent developments kiara sent her a birthday congratulation video, but niji management didnt let pomu play it

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