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>>28794131
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>69,696: Towa (Hololive)
>52,071: Marine (Hololive)
>44,731: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>44,349: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>41,104: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,771: Miko (Hololive)
>37,306: Calli (Hololive)
>23,779: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,037: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,255: Ina (Hololive)
>17,837: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,717: Botan (Hololive)
>17,633: Flare (Hololive)
>17,360: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,893: Nui (Nijisanji)
>14,798: Nose (VSPO)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>11,776: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,998: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,975: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,588: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,416: Leos (Nijisanji)

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We really should count this Towa thing as a Niji win. She was best friends with a Niji Liver that sadly graduated and she has always felt more like a Niji than a Holo to me and a lot of others.

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>>28794226
VSPO GOLD
VSPO GOLD

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>>28794226
shut up retard

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>>28794208
bah, the last thread archived just before we reach image limit, so I'm just going to post the last ones in the batch I saved then leave.

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I must admit, I love numbers

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>>28794226

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So tmr confirmed nijigold?

Also the La+ interview was good, you guys should watch it.

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>>28794302

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You know, after looking at all the goals done by both niji and HoloEN members, I come to respect Calli a lot more for actually setting realistic and big goals then accomplishing it, walking a thousand steps for it.

Aside from that,
>Spread the love of nijisanji
>collabing with other nijisanji members
What kind of retard would put this, you don't even know or like 1/5 of the whole roster of nijis. There's like 150 of them.

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*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>41,318: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,252: Mori (Hololive)
>20,307: Ina (Hololive)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,999: Luca (Nijisanji)
>9,432: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,832: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,416: Moona (Hololive)
>6,309: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,265: Uki (Nijisanji)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Kobo
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 15
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca, Mori
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 17
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
4x: Ina
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Mumei: 8 (4-1-3)
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 5 (1-0-4)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Mori: 3 (0-2-1)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

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>>28794374
they have to reinforce the brand, anon. the brand is more important than any individual.

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>>28794354
While yes, Gwelu will most likely win, part of me feels like we are REALLY understimating Matsuri. Maybe the race will be closer than we expect? Don't know, I just have this... weird feeling about tomorrow

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>>28794374
>duet with melissa kirenka
enna... lmao.

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>>28794561
that's... RIP

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>>28794599

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>>28794561
>SPREAD NIJISANJI LOVE & POWER
jesus, it's like a cult.

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>>28794131
>Final /news/ roundup for 21-07-2022
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Recent Clip Numbers
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Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Nerver trust Nijiliars

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>>28794757

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>>28794131
Iluna debut waiting rooms
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Tempus debut dates
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Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
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>>28793815
>Win a smash tourney
Didn't Vox seethe uncontrollably after getting his shit kicked in by Fulgar, or was that another game? Most based thing Fulgar has done.

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>>28794673
You know, if I wasn't curious about a vtuber's goals, I wouldn't have noticed that most of nijiEN members had their first goal to be "nijification" or spreading the love of nijisanji as if they are obligated to put that in.

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>>28794936
I'll end with a few images of startendsex

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>>28794208
did that subamarine collab end up overlap towa or did they move it?

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>>28794208
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
129x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>>28795024
suityan kawaii

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>>28795026
subaru solo error overlapped, subamarine offcollab was two hours later

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>>28794537
I feel like Gwelu is guaranteed 100k+ and Matsuri isn't getting that.
I'm ready to be surprised though.

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>>28795026
Ended up with solo Subaru error overlap with 20k, the shubamarine collab was a zatsu a couple hours later.

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Is there any Holo Rust clip that has 100k+ views?

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>>28794976
Pretty much yeah. Fungus shat on him pretty hard and Vox got legitimately upset and seemed like he was about to cry or something.

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Reminder Averagefags are disgusting greyfag worshipers . Even Nipon changed their meta to be about streamers streaming and not Susans imaginary numbers over some arbitrarily chosen moment of time.

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>>28794561
That's why Melissa graduated...

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>>28795238
ogey

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>>28794374
>Spread the love of nijisanji
Those were company mandated goals.
There's so much fakery in Nijisanji it's kinda disturbing really.

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>>28794226
lol, that nijiliver quit the company so she could finish schooling faster in order to move to japan to date Towa.

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>>28795238
Mongoloidchama..

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>>28795209
I've seen a couple of nip ones that are over 100k

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>Pomu not being welcoming to the new wave at all
Man I feel bad for her, they seem terrible and will hurt her numbers all the same.

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>>28794208

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I thought gen6 was supposed to cannibalize them not improve the numbers?

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twitch tally anon gave up 21 days ago, never forget the only good twitch poster we had.

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>>28795507
They haven't debuted yet

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>>28794561
>Spread Nijisanji love and power
Feels so forced lmao.
Why the fuck are they like this? If this were Hololive it would've have been "to bully Yagoo" or some shit.
Also why is collaboration a fuckin goal? I mean playing games, zatsudan, karaoke, and collabs are staple for vtubers. Collabs are free right?

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>>28795507
>improve the numbers
they're about on par with her normal MC onces

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>>28795316
It's the fact that Nijisanji's brand is the only one strong here, not the livers. How are they gonna spread the love of nijisanji if the other liver's personal brand is so weak that it wouldn't matter if a popular guy collabed with them. That's their problem, they don't really have the box. Spread the love, if used in Hololive's context is more effective, because someone's viewers would actually try watching the other person's streams.

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>>28795507
It's over. NijiEN is inclining, Hololive is reclining. Such is the natural state of things. So it is in Japan, so it is here

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>>28795238
Anon... Do you realise this is just their combined top 10 peaks of the month?

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>>28795507
>Haven't debuted yet
>Normal Pomu minecraft number
ogey

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>>28795562
>>28795316
Just a weird goal imo

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>>28794131
Who is this

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>>28795238
>muh streamers st reaming
>fucking Marine is nr 4
roru

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I LOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEE NIJISANJIIIIIII

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>>28795562
>Collabs are free right?
Not sure about that. Can niji 2views collab with Kuzuha or Ibrahim? Or even Sasaki?

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>>28795677
rurudo, towa's mama

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>>28795608
HoloEN is having one of their best months ever and this is with Gura completely benched, btw

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>>28793815
Another fucking "collab with nijisanji" goal.
Man, how could anyone stomach Nijisanji?
Everything is so fake.

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>>28795723
That animation with her is fucking 10/10.

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>>28795562
>Collabs are free right?
No you need to pay fee

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>>28795763
Due to graduation. Great reason to celebrate right?

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How much did she make from last members stream? playboard doesn't track subscription content.

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>>28795882
what about the month before? is this the new cope to downplay holoen doing well

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>>28795946
nijifriends always downplay holo and overhype their midgets.

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>>28795562
Lots of Holos put "collab with senpais" in their debuts too anon.
It's just the default thing to put in when you can't think of anything special.

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>>28795898
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>>28795882
>dead weight removed
>average going up
And you said the same shit last month
>i-it's gura's birthday! and holocure!
Cope and seethe, you can't pull your NijiEN inclining HoloEN reclining shit any more when the opposite is happening lmao. Enjoy lowering yourself to shitposting about the bad homo numbers, it will be all you can latch unto soon.

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>>28796129
off yourself, you crossposter gigafag.

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>>28795814
what are you talking about

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>>28794208
The most liked Towa fanart. Apt since it includes today's gold, silver and the month's total gold holder. 170k likes on twitter.

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>>28796224
>Being happy
Doomeronii ...

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>>28795763
Why lie like this? Yes they are doing good but it's nowhere near their best months ever. Also summer break.

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>>28796224
>no "spread hololive love and power"
Why is Kronii like this?

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>>28796190
Wait till wave6 dropped and Gura is killed by the latina.

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>>28796224
>Being happy
Depressionii

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>>28796205
??

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>>28796224
Well she achieved all of her goals now, just that those goals are pretty low tho

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>>28796224
Yeah, this was funny when I read it. I was hoping she had a VA goal or something. Her, Mumei and Sana are the only ones needing a big goal to actually be passionate about being in Hololive. I was hoping Kronii asked to land a small role for an anime dub session, it'd be easy with Cover's connection to Cruncyroll. Just a small role, then work your way up to a big anime role. What I find is that these girls, unironically doesn't have any big dreams they could use while they stay in Hololive. Hololive is just a means to an end. Kronii could be a big VA after graduating.

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>>28796224
"I love how this reads like a corporate powerpoint"

>>28796429
anon..."being happy"?
It's a constant struggle for her

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funny thread.

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>>28796315
>it's nowhere near their best months ever.
It absolutely is.

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>>28796224
I hope she is in therapy

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>>28796365

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POMU 4000 DORIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

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>>28796527
Do you have the chart separated by gens?

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>>28796489
Well if being happy is so hard I just hope she won't 41% suddenly.

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>>28794537
She might get some buffs from what happened in her countdown stream.
Apparently Luna commented it and she broke down a bit and might bring back some old FestivalLuna fans
https://youtu.be/oRxRVZR-03c?t=3504

Remember that she dedicated one whole cover for Luna's b-day way back then with the description:
> 世界一大好きなあなたへ
> 誕生日おめでとう。
> To the one I love most in the world
> Happy Birthday.
https://youtu.be/JonQ09L2N0U

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>>28796527
NijiJP is quite high. Is this pre or post JP KR ID merger?

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>>28796556
THE INCLINE IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

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> Posts that didn't age well

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now this is optimizing.

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>>28796527
>muh true average

Holy shit this cope again. Now look at vod views and number of streams. They are back to around 10k ccv but they were doing much better a year ago.

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Keep posting debut goals anon where are you post faster asshole

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I don't understand those two retards, ame and bae. Just move your shit away for them.

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I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out but the cringey ass Maid ASMR actually hit 1m finally

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>>28796783
>number of streams
??

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>>28795536
You can pick it up if you want. Another anon provided a script and you only collect the ids to run it
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>>28796777
He’s doing a watchalong of his own 3D?

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>>28796808
It's honestly funny because when Fauna puts up her schedule first she gets overlapped, but when she puts up her schedule second she rarely does a direct overlap.

That said there's like a 90% chance of Ame delaying anyway.

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>>28796806
Are you the mad liver trying to deflect plenty of times while I was posting in this thread and last thread? lmao

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>>28796645
ah yes, the song that Luna totally ignored lol

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>>28796783
>number of streams

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>>28796556
Sad really. The last stream ever over 4k for her before the new gen eats her audience

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>>28796880
It sure looks like it.

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>>28796808
I dont understand it either. Like I get sometimes you're busy in life and you have other responsibilities but you can't fucking tell me your schedule is so packed you can't shift is back or ahead by an hour.

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>>28796777
Fucking madlad

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What was the max CCV that Council and HoloX got on their debuts?

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>>28796129
>5k from supas
>10k new subs
>loads of new shrimps
Do you think cover will be satisfied with this much? If they think it's good results then maybe they will stop giving her dumb shill jobs and maybe she will stream more.

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>>28796783
>Now look at vod views
How...does one look at VOD views?
The ones from a year ago had 1 year to get more views you retard. And as far as I can tell, they haven't changed that much at all.

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>>28796777
>Watchalong
So how will this affect the numbers?

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>>28796893
No I'm just a bored anon wanting to shitpost about Holofailures since you faggots want to shit on Nijisanji so badly

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>>28796965
Doesn't matter. La+ can't even get 100k on her VODs nowadays. We need gen 7 now.

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>>28796980
>10k new subs
holy shit how. Did Susan stop nuking Hololive sub growth? Because for months she could barely get 40k but it looks like she's back to her regular growth, even though her stream output shouldn't be supporting it.

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>>28796999
Not much. I would assume most will have it as a background track and watch the main stream, assuming he doesn't show the main stream on his watch along.
In regards to numbers, maybe a few k? not that big of a deal I would think.

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>>28796224
Uh, why is "being happy" even a goal? Shouldnt that be checked off by default?

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>>28796527
>stream 3x less
>average goes up

Now look at their streams from last year. 15-20k was the norm. Now people celebrate 10k.

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>>28794226
> "X is an Honorary Niji, so a win for X is a win for Niji" (HAL >>11870872, Ui <span class="deadlink">>>12196318, Laplus >>14528887, Patra >>1580589 >>12765557, Towa >>28794226).</span>

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>>28796840
>assuming you are not using windows
unfortunate, i mightve tried to learn

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How many 20k+ streams has Pomu had in the last 12 months?

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>>28797089
>Kronii's literal third stream after debut
So you're just a disingenious nijinigger. My bad for engaging you in anything resembling good faith.

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>>28797040
>>28794811

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>>28796699
>gets in before both of them
>highly implied Snuffy didnt make the auditions they held for english additions ages ago too

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>>28795562
> collabs are free right?
For Niji collabs there are fees for the big guns.

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>>28796482
>. I was hoping she had a VA goal or something.
The only two that have a VA goal are Fauna (wants to be in a game, literally any game) and Bae (wants to be in an anime, and is going to cope with hologra if EN ever gets one)

Mumei has a big goal too though, which is getting a song in an Anime.

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>>28797088
Not for Kronii, its getting better now though that's she gotten away from the abusive relationship in her life

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>>28797247
What does "joining" Vshojo even mean? Yo uget merch and shit? Like, if its not a corporation, why does it have auditions? Shouldn't any big indie that wants to join them and isn't ultra controversial be welcome? They're just a merch label after all.

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>>28797021
Well, the other nijiEN goals are barely interesting. The first goal is spread love niji and last, wanting to collab with other nijis. The other goals in between hasn't been achieved yet kek and you can't use HoloEN's goals to shitpost because they either had achieved it, not achieved it or too broad (like improve singing/japanese etc).

If anything, HoloEN had accomplished getting OGs except for ame, attend conventions as guests, getting their own personalized merchs, collabed with their oshis, characters of a popular fan made game, going to be in holoalt game etc and irys/calli getting albums/eps/sololive.

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>>28796965
Sana was the lowest with 85k, but none of them got over 100k

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>>28797225
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>>28797292
>Actually lists offcollabs as a goal
Ah, no wonder she went on that offcollab spree

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797088
>Kronii
>Being happy
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28784332
technically they were the 4th, "Gen 0" was retconned in later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797338
shhh, you aren't supposed to ask those questions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797292
>collab
Seems like somehow all of them don't think it is a given. Also I don't see Fauna speedrunning any game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797402
Yeah, I realized it when Sana announced her graduation and decided to check all their goals. It makes total sense why she keeps dropping everything to go to them. Honestly respect her for it.

>>28797418
Anon she has the fastest time in Getting Over It in all of Hololive... She also speedran Minecraft (poorly) and does intend to do more in the future.

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>>28797418
She used to speedrun minecraft and getting over it

[Anonymous No.]

Wanted to look at some old JP debuts but it seems like the listing goals thing wasn't really a thing until Gen4. And they listed pretty normal things for the time like 100k subs, 3D model and original songs.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it so hard to be happy? I just jerk it when I am depressed and everything is better afterwards, for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797418
she had speedran mario too

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797478
It's super interesting going back to the debut goals of the jp girls, seeing what they wanted years ago. Some of them do new goals each year, its great and feels good to both the chuuba and audience when they get completed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797561
No she hasn't. Not yet anyway, Mario Odyssey is one she wants to do eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28788107
how do you "speedrun" a light novel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797478
The saddest part about Sana's is she couldn't actually last a fucking year

[Anonymous No.]

>>28796365
If she ends up streaming mostly fujo VNs or whatever, it's not even a remote possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797338
yeah idk, its clear they dont trust their own brands power to generate new creators people are interested in though as all 4 additions since their initially inception were an anituber who was by far the worst one. 2 former Hololive talents, and one of the largest twitch vtuber indies in the scene at the time with Veibae. I wouldn't doubt if all future Vshojo additions are just folding large built up talents with preexisting fanbases into themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijicope List
Update for 22-07-2022
Source : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

> Added new entry -
> #45 "X is an Honorary Niji, so a win for X is a win for Niji" (HAL >>11870872, Ui <span class="deadlink">>>12196318, Laplus >>14528887, Patra >>1580589 >>12765557, Towa >>28794226).</span>

Existing entries renumbered to match -
> Former #45 "No true Nijifan" is now #46
> Former #46 "Blatant Lying" is now #47
> Former #47 "Playing the Victim" is now #48

181 characters remain until the list becomes too big for one post.

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>>28797698
I mean it's technically correct. She won't be able to destroy the earth if she left earth in the first place. I'm not sure why she would even put that as a goal lmao, it's probably just a joke but doesn't she have a dream or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797661
She's speedruning turning into 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28796224
Holy shit she's so real

[Anonymous No.]

>>28795238
>about streamers streaming
>Shows top 10 peaks sum
you are the dumbest poster on this entire board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797225
>20k+ streams
20k CCV or 20k vodviews?
Because I am pretty sure she has never had a 20k peak stream. Not even close. Her debut wasnt even close to 20k. She only has like 2-3 10k+ streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797544
That's just sad

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/S3CAGeeMRvo
>My goal is to eventually become 3D and appear on TV, in commercials and in concerts
That seems really ambitious for 2018 but she actually did it huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797801
>doesn't she have a dream or something
Apparently not. The only one there that actually pertains to streaming or her career is the "I want to collect laughter" one but that one is so broad and subjective it's just dumb as hell. She puts that she wants her fucking MASCOT to get 3D, not herself. Like in hindsight it's really not surprising she has any conviction to stay despite whatever is troubling her outside of Holo

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>>28796985
Selen's vod views have only increased over time, meaning she's reclining. A lot of her older videos don't have that many views, a lot of her newer ones from the past five months are in her most watched VODs. That's 100% proof of incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797976
>meaning she's reclining
ayup

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>>28797976
Meaning she's inclining*

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>>28797873
She collabed with SAO lol. Like is it that hard for Sana to say that she wants to get better in Japanese and meet Yuuki Aoi in person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28796840
I've been trying but the fucking thing was in linux and I'm not a programmer. Even after installing ubuntu and LFW, for some reason it adds a /n when reading links from the Twitch name file. Still looking to fix that because it gives curl errors.

Also, still trying to figure out how to use the output per day for charts without resorting to PowerBI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797873
>i really love this outfit
well that was a fucking lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797873
Yeah, IIRC back in those days not even Oyabun has actually appeared in any commercials yet. I'm kind of proud being an oldfag who followed Holo from late 2018.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797338
It's more of a brand than a proper corporation.
Just like how content teams work, with contracts and everything, but you still do most of the stuff yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797292
Which HoloENs have voice acted games so far? Just Gura I'm sure has a bunch I can't remember, Kiara and Ina have that gacha game they voiced lines in, and Amelia had an announcer pack for Paladins.

[Anonymous No.]

If I was a Holo, I wish to earn enough money, enough clout, enough nihon and animation skill to ask Dio's voice actor to VA in an animation skit and once I graduate, I'll frame that achievement in its entire glory and tell my kids that I've worked my way up to get my oshi to VA in my shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros... I'm feeling the hopium today. 50k Holostars EN debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798332
Damn that's crazy
What's even crazier is I can't find who the hell asked

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798279
Gura is a voiced avatar in that one shitty Rhythm game she shilled multiple times. Ina and Kiara has the mobage, yes. And Ame has Paladins (she asked for this for her 1m wish). Mori is too busy with music to bother with it I think.

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>>28798400
Just a reminder that it literally takes 20k to break the Holostar record. The Holostar bar is deep in the gorund, and its laughable to see people hype them up to go toe to toe with NijiEN (forma del manjisanji) when even early lazulight numbers would be insane for a holostar.

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>>28798425
Kek, that's what she chose? I guess OW would have been too big. I wonder what Gura asked for.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>28796482
Kronii will never ask for a VA work as a Holomem. She prefers to have it as rm, with the rm profile. Also it feel like she doesn't really care about how big the va work is as rm too. Til now i still doesn't know what her big dream is, her goal still seems super shallow, for good reason though. She's the council i look forward the most for her idol journey towards the goal of not being miserable. It's getting there, some steps back last few weeks but getting there.

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>>28798166
She waited whole 2 years for her first alternate l2d outfit excluding the NY one, anon. And she's on track for another 2 years without a new one.

[Anonymous No.]

>/#/ thread
>doesn't discuss numbers
gotta love it. wonder why no one's talking about the pomu stream going on and how she's at 4.2k

[Anonymous No.]

I can't stop listening to Fauna's ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773

[Anonymous No.]

TRUST

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
4.2k isn't impressive, especially for someone in pomu's position. wake me up when lazulight regularly get 10k streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
Oh fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
wheelchair podium is 5k anon, even then half the anons in this thread laugh at the wheelchair podium anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
Except people mentioned that she got 4k. What the fuck more do you want? It's pretty much dead hours because 4k is still even more midget than midgets considering it can't even reach the EN tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
My brain doesn't recognize any stream below 10k and only 50k+ streams get my neurons firing. 4views might as well not exist to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
Only 4k? Might as well kill herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798830
live show, what can you do about it tech is tech nbd

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
If you want I can shitpost Pomu for not reaching 5k, but it would be mean. HoloEN streams that don't even reach 5k only get mentioned if people are shitting on them, why would NijiEN streams be any different?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
Hey she barely beat Kiaras SC reading stream
Congrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798834
It's going down? Which faggot just visited her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
>zero overlap
pomuniggers are cut from the same cloth as sapkeks i see when they think their oshi is pulling good numbers in dead slots

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
When is pomu gonna collab with an idol again or have 3D?

[Anonymous No.]

Are Frames up for Tempus debuts yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799027
nope, still got over a full day for them anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>28794208
>Last Sana related stream before her graduation didn't even got bronze
Rumao, Council was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798991
Fauna can reach tally while getting overlapped by both Ame and Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798676
yes but she never wears it anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798917
Nigga it's prerecorded and even then they had a tech failure LMAO
BUT TRUST THE PLAN HOLOBROS!

[Anonymous No.]

Heh, thanks for the easy (You)s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798773
Did you just post this so people could shit on Pomu?

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara confirmed that a collab with Pomu is even LESS likely with "recent developments". What the fuck is she talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799062
That didn't stop Iluna tho, even though Iluna is after Tempus

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799078
fuck off sapling your whore literally feasts off dead slots and leeching gura

[Anonymous No.]

Taking a request from >>28796573, here is the same chart as >>28796527 but split by gen / wave instead of per branch.
Here is one caveat: I mashed up Council and IRyS because, for all intents, IRyS is the six Council (soon to be the fifth).
Another important thing to keep in mind is that this is *not* the average of that day, but the average of 30 days of streams, ending on that day meaning it is not this or that outlier pushing the average up but a true 30 days consistent performance.

Here are some comments

1) For a period of 4 days (May 27th to Jun 1st) Luxiem had the highest average of all gens / waves. That is the tail end of the period when Mysta karaoke got 49k and then.right after he got 40k with HandCooking with Vox.
They're in a steep recline now, but it is more of a "return to the mean" than a true recline.
2) Myth reached their highest point since the 2020 algo change at the start of this month, of course propped by the full myth off collab and their 3D. Like Luxiem, they're in a reclining trajectory, in a case of "return to the mean"
3) Noctyx apparently didn't do as good as expected. They debuted to earth shattering numbers but, ever since their debut buff wore out, they're glued to the 3k line without any significant incline (unlike Luxiem)
4) Both Lazulight and Obsydia improved their average from around 1.5k to around 2.5k. It might not be big in the great scheme ot things, an incline is an incline.
5) Ethyria, likewise, inclined away from the 1k line to close to the 2k line. The trajectory of their numbers look a little intertwined with the one from Noctyx and it might signify that they're riding the same meta.

And the highlight of this chart
6) Council, what an incline! Something happened in the end of June that shot their numbers sky high and it was not Sana graduation, because she announces a little over a week ago.

I'm not following Council very closely, what might have inclined them? Holocure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
She said it wasn't going to happen, at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799094
Why are you so mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798086
>I've been trying but the fucking thing was in linux and I'm not a programmer. Even after installing ubuntu
I can help you, I provided the script and I myself do it on windows.

You can do it one of two ways, I'll give you the easier one: install git, use git bash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799167
>Sapling
Nope, I'm a Tako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
Luxiem is reclining...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
She sent a birthday video, Pomu didn't show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
>>28799194
Timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
Maybe Niji trying to kill StarsEN with Wave 6 killed any chance of it ever happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798564
There was that Yagoo collab on the Holostar channel during the Holo Expo that got over 20k, but that was really special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799324
Stream is still going, you'll have to wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799324
She's still streaming, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799324
Have to wait until the stream ends

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
> Both Ethyria and Noctyx had record-breaking debuts
> Both are now in the shitter
So if the new Nijis break Noctyx records that doesn't exactly bode well for them...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
Niji trying to kill off the Homostars debut’s hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799330
Yeah I imagine the Cold War between companies because a Hot War with that move

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
>>28799194
wait it really is ALL OUT WAR, my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>28795238
>Even Nipon changed their meta to be about streamers streaming
>and not Susans imaginary numbers over some arbitrarily chosen moment of time.
>proceeds to post a ranking based on arbitrarily chosen moment of time that uses Susan's imaginary numbers
this can only be bait because nobody could possibly be this retarded... and I bit, so I guess (You) win because I replied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
NijiEN management blocked her Video message from being shown on Pomu's stream, so that sent a clear message to Kiara I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799194
Good

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
>That Noctyx line
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
ALL OUT WAR!

[Anonymous No.]

>There are people here who watch Kiara SC reading live
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799646
People watch streams you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799646
Kiara is a gossip girl, she spills the deetz, you just have to suffer Kiara voice and 3 hours of superchat reading for 5 minutes of spicy insider info

[Anonymous No.]

guys, I get that it's probably fun to bait that guy, but Koyori is in no way part of the 1st Army, come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
Myth and Council almost at exactly the same numbers, kino

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799794
I mean she gets into the tally a lot so

[Anonymous No.]

Alright I got one
tempus = tempiss
iluna = ilunormies

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799794
People who don't stream like Suisei or Aqua don't deserve to be in the first tally. Put in botan and laplus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
Here is the same chart, but with Luxiem, Council and Myth removed, so the Y axis can show the improvement by the NijiEN girls.
It also shows Noctyx reaching their lowest point so far last week, with a little bounce back this week so far..

Seems like Obsydia "slow and steady" strategy is paying off better than "celebration spam" and "collab spam" by Noctyx and Ethyria

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
>>28799194
actual all out war kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799848
and? her ceilling is still low compared to laplus and chloe
might as well say mio is also part of the 1st army because she rarely gets below 10k with her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
Yeah holocure was a big buff but there were also some great collabs hosted on council channels.
Myth is carried a lot by Gura, so whenever she doesn't stream much and/or Kiara/Ame streams more debuff stuff, the average suffers a lot.

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>>28799191
>Gura and Ina doesn't stream, can't carry the other 3 who does SC reading
>Council is surprisingly inclining way above their post honeymoon period.
>Luxiem seems like they're stagnating
>The others also looked like they're stagnating especially Noctyx lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799252
Nice, i enabled Windows Subsystem for Linux and installed Ubuntu on windows so i'm just running it from the cmd.
It's at the curl where i've been getting errors when it goes through the ids.txt. ((3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL)
Works of if i just write the full url instead.
For instance when i use an echo to see what's happening i get this for the first id. It goes on a new row i think
>https://twitchtracker.com/fallenshadow
>/streams

Also, would you know how to filter for just July/2022? It takes forever for it to download all the streams data.


Here's a Towa for weary lurkers.

[Anonymous No.]

A question is it possible or Holo JP7 to reach 200k CCV on their debuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799319
>She sent a birthday video
Proof?
Or it is just a voice in holokek's head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800089
If vtubing keeps on inclining like it has this year, then yes
Unironically, Salome might've pulled in lots of new vtuber fans that have since bled over to holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799869
tempus = templars
Iluna = illuminati
our big corpos are now infiltrated

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800111
it is just a voice in their head.
That means holo's management is the one blocking the collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800111
Why are Nijifrens so detached from reality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799772
Kiara and Ibrahim solo streams are pretty much go to for news (gossip) updates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799324
https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=15886

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800111
>>28800198
Noor, it's 4am. Why are you samefagging at this hour?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800239
So no proof?
Good to hear kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800111
where have you been anon?
It's been weeks of the clip and transcript being shared everywhere on this site

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800272
The more intresting thing in this vod is her saying an EN is going to do a drinking stream before Sana's graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800272
she really hates holo management. you can hear it in her voice.

[Anonymous No.]

And another 1 million VOD. I guess chumbies are doing their reps because this is the 4th old video to reach 1 million in the past month. This is the 44th non song video to reach 1 million for Gura. It looks like the GTA one will also get there, but past that point none of her old 900k+ VODs are really picking up any significant speed any more.

Her outfit reveal and April 1st stream might have gotten there but I'm pretty sure she gutted them from the algo by titling them dumb shit like "?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800355
She already confirmed it's not Mori so the assumption is it's Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800329
>source
>plea…please believe me
Sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800372
Anon, just give up. You lost the argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800384
I've been doing the occasional reps on some of those vods
Also been trying to ensure she always has 300k views per vod

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800384
More like the 4th video that was flagged to be over 995k 1-2 months ago.
It was going to get there in time.

But also, yeah, what else are the chumbuds going to watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28798086
>>28799252

WSL might also be an option for windows

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800384
>And another 1 million VOD.
What the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800384
I remember reading a comment in this thread that I think rings pretty true: Gura's channel gets treated like a Let's Play channel by a big set of her fans. If she hasn't made new "videos", they'll go check out the back catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800372
But they are still denying it and blaming it to niji kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800457
Fucking tourists man, they don't even read the niji generals.
Just drop here for "le epic pawnage"

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800550
Gook moot ate my image, didn't mean to leave you in the dark like that anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
Why are people surprised? Ange showed HoloEN during her shill stream but Elira didn't show HoloEN during her shill stream. Which shows NijiJP management is fine with them but NijiEN management isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
Kiara is such a rrat factory rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799869
I'd rather go for tempussies

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
all out war for kiara after seeing her /b/ leaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800087
that's the problem windows escapes the commands different from linux.

Do as I said, install git
https://git-scm.com/download/win
then open git bash.

What I sent you should work out of the box. If you manage to make it work for the three you send as an example I fix it to stop at the first day of the month and even at a particular day and spit the tally as you need

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800457
This is pathetically hilarious, keep it up friend, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800571
That's what happens when most of your fanbase can't check you live. It's a potent advantage. As I understand it, Kobo also gets good VOD views after processing ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799869
Ilunatics

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799140
All out war is literally real, that's hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800696
I know right?
It is always fun to see how I make holokeks cope and swallow their lies back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800089
I mean, It'd be surprising definitely but not a complete shocker. Koyori got to 180k on her debut and I'd argue that HoloJP now is way more popular compared to then. The fact that Cover doesn't debut JP gens that often (I think there was a 15+ month gap between Gen 5 and 6) pretty much makes new JP gen debuts a mega event 2nd only to Nijisanji's Koshien itself numberswise. Hell, the week that Holox debuted was literally the equivalent of a chuuba E3 with Holox being the only thing anyone could talk about here and any place that discusses vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

Only like a quarter of Gura's fanbase is even in NA, newfags are so fucking stupid thinking Gura reclined when all that's happening is her JoP tourists went back to their regular schedules, all of Myth was boosted to hell by JoPs like how Luxium is boosted by CNs, and just like Myth fell off when JPs left Luxium will inevitably also recline as their CN viewers go back to watching CN vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800089
I'd say no.
Gen6 was the first new JP gen after Hololives massive incline in 2020 and it took over a year so it's hard to beat that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800777
Does hours watched help streamers monetarily besides having YT Premium cuts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
>>28799946
And here is a very very amusing one
>NijiEN "minor" branches vs. HoloID 1, 2 and 3.

Here is the rundown

1) ID3 is the strongest of them all, beating Noctyx
2) Noctyx is second, being closely tracked by ID1
3) ID1 got a fucking rocket boost with HoloFes and Cover released ID3 at the exact peak for maximum exposure. Sasuga ID management!
4) ID2 benefited from HoloFes but not as much as ID1.but got enough of a boost to launch away from the 1k line and catch up to a reclining Ethyria.
5) Lazulight an Obsydia are carrying on with their "slow and steady" incline, mostly disconnected from everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>look at anycolor stock price
We are eating good tonight but not the holokeks.

[Anonymous No.]

How many golds has Finana gotten so far?

[Anonymous No.]

So now that it has been confirmed, why is nijiEN's management blocking collabs with holos? Is it just because of the chinese audience or is there something else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801041
It's unlikely but not completely impossible, me thinks. JP itself seems to be experiencing another incline as previously shown by graph anon with majority of the girls recording higher CCV than last year. That aside, with Holo's success in KR as demonstrated by the Cafe collab over there, it got me wondering. Would a global branch for Hololive work? Something like "holo world" that encompasses all non ID and US countries and continents like KR, ES, EU, etc. That way you don't have to commit a full branch to one specific region while not bloating the EN branch with more ESL's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801034
>and just like Myth fell off when JPs left Luxium will inevitably also recline as their CN viewers go back to watching CN vtubers
>CN vtubers
Are there even any left to watch? Didn't their big industry players basically collapse and a bunch of chinese are basically resorting to pirating Holo's content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801527
i think most cn viewer would just wait for the restreamon billi or something.
not worth setting a vpn everytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
Chinese audience more than likely. Either that or Noor is really fucking butthurt about the IN branch getting the axe and blames holoEN for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801034
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? What recline? Gura is back on the rise CCV wise.
And I'm talking May/June before some fag goes HURR DURR NO STREAMS this July.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
No she didn't say the reason.
It more like holo is the one who blocking it retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
probably not wanting to risk their audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
>>28801611
Hololive's name is so deeply entrenched in the community that giving them any space to move could lead to your audience of former Holofans rekindling their interest in the aforementioned, risking your losing of the fans back to Holomembers. It's a tacit admission of a lack of faith in the charisma of your talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801125
Theoretically, it also pushes you ahead in the YT algorithm. Although the way it works is opaque, with 'viewer retention', in other words the percentage of hours watched to hours uploaded, being a more significant factor

CCV, and watch hours, is actually important because it sets a high floor for how much a video preforms in the first few hours of its release.

Say a normal youtuber releases video 1 hour long and it gets 1 million views averaging 15 minutes viewer retention, over the course of a few weeks. Many of those might be repeat views due to people coming back to finish the video without counting as the same view, fucking up the retention rate. The gradual accumulation of views is good for long term channel growth.

Comparatively, a streamer then makes a video with 100k CCV Average, and it's also 1 hour long. That video has at least 100k hours watched within the first hour of its release, and hundreds of thousands of views, a powerful boost to its position in the algorithm due to the speed, and while viewer churn is a factor streams will generally have higher retention rates than normal youtube videos for their initial views, so better ratio of hours watched to number of views, leading to better algorithm push

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there such a talent disparity between HoloEN and NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801720
What fucking part of Ollie could collab with anyone but a NijiEN makes it that it's somehow on the fucking Holo side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28795238

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801720
Noor shut the fuck up.
You're getting pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801893
Retention is a bit less important than engagement. YouTube will recommend more the channels that you engage with directly than those that you "autopilot through" so to speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801910
HoloEN is a serious company of people with asperations beyond being streamers. It's an idol company with idol dreams, it both demands and attracts a higher quality type of person

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801720
>>28799451
See above timestamp some anon posted earlier. Kiara has the pull at this point to get her fucking Pomu collab if she really wanted it. Which she clearly does. It's not like she's too shy to forcefully ask for what she wants (looking at you Gura). Who doesn't have the pull to resist management? Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
Maybe Niji management is not confident with its talents seeing they only get numbers when they collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800694
hmm, ok installed git
in MINGW64
$ >chmod+x
$ >./getall.sh
doesn't seem to do anything, list.txt is the same as before when i last ran it from WSL cmd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802081
But I thought some of the niji girls were holo rejects why wouldn't it transfer over

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797274
If you're gonna mag him, mag him well!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801134
NijiEN has completely failed to capture its intended audience. Luxiem attracting chinks and asians only hurts the main branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802094
What is your point to post a pomu's video without any soundas your proof?

[Anonymous No.]

Insider information on Nijisanji EN: The problem isn't on the management side, but there are a few talents who just really don't like Hololive and never have. They're very outspoken about this on the vent channel, and had basically demanded Pomu ignore Kiara on Twitter and on stream or she would be ostracized

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802186
Company culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
>the vent channel
Are you a shitposter using a time machine to post from 2005?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801910
The thing is that Hololive hires people that Already are the best in their field. They Already before putting on a vtuber avatar are world class talents.
Ame could easily work as creative director
Gura could easily work as an actor or comedian or a radio show host
Ina was already one of the best artists in the world
Mori is an accomplished musician.

These are all people that are among the greatest talents in the world. They just happen to be vtubers too
NijiEN hires bullshit 2views and try to make them into vtubers. And why would they be talented? You are just as likely to find talent from random people on the streets as in NijiEN..

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801910
HoloEN tried to hire general "creators"
NijiEN hired "streamers"

First works better to stand out individually in a sea of vtubers and create memorable art.
2nd works better to create a team of similar content creators that work off of each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802186
There’s a reason why they’re rejects

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801449
NijiENs management is ex NijiIN they resent HoloEN for blowing up at the same time they were struggling with their rebrand arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802366
Council was literally none of this aside from Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
Thank you based demanding Ninigirl, I’m inducting her as
>HONORARY JUNSGANG MEMBER

Is it Finana? Also
>HRRRTTTTTT

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
That explains a lot and is most likely the reason why some which are fans of Holos like Gura and Mori refuse to even utter their names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801878
Slightly OT but I've always felt the charisma argument was BS. There are very few people in the industry who possess it and as good as the Hololive roster and as big as Nijisanji's is, I can probably count in one hand the number of people who posses REAL charisma in that entire talent pool. Everything else feels more like a product of luck, hard work, or a combination of both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802432
not world class anymore but, they were specialists close to the top of the EN indie field.
Kronii-VA, Fauna-ASMR, Mumei-singing+shorts and Bae was the streamed of the Gen (+dancer in time)

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
Sounds bullshit
BUT I BELIEVE IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801720
>She didn't say the reason
But arbitrarily blames Hololive
Nijiniggers truly are worse than Holofags

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801134
damn never saw it coming.. HoloID is stronger than nijien minus luxiem...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802366
>Mori is an accomplished musician.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28795316
>>28794374
What are you talking about? Only a few of them do that and the ones doing that are the ones who are nijisanji fans like Petra, Selen, Pomu, Elira and others. And for the most part, all of those have been doing collabs with JP/KR/ID/VR a lot of times. Don't be an ignorant faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
bullshit but
>some nijien livers were the tribalfags all along
sounds believable so i believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>28796965
94k for kronmei if i'm not mistaken

[Anonymous No.]

>NijiEN newbies suddenly tame tweets
Looks like they learned. Good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
This could be... nah even then it wouldn't be fully believable, Management has the power to say
"you 2 are doing this type of stream with these people because it's for the good of the company"
they way they got collabs with outsiders in the early days.

Plus, Vox and Selen had pretty much the most influence out of all of them early on and they couldn't get collabs with Mori and Ollie off the ground.
IT's way bigger than the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28797040
because it's only a short 57 minutes stream you retard, laplus still able to consistently performed 10k+ ccv everytime she streams, that is like absolute top of nijis, kanae tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802739
no more "le ebin bottom gheybxy" tweets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802646
Seethe about it and call her a wigger or a shit rapper all you want, she gets music numbers only matched by Suisei. And that's not even factoring in her roommate activity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802506
People don't even try with Gura out of fear of being seen as a leech and also not wanting to set off Gura's horde of CGDCT unicorns. And also because there's no reward for the risk, because Gura has never and will never give non-Holos the time of day outside of her artist. A few NijiENs and other streamers have made tentative overtures at contact with Gura and she ignores them entirely.
Mori though, plenty of NijiENs interact with Mori on twitter all the time and she usually reciprocates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802739
NijiEN members are really pathetic. They lack credibility and are easily swayed by their peers that's why they are plagued with scandals like Finana's trap incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800644
NijiKR also didn't show anything. You know why? Because they got different sponsorship from that

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if Kronii had a more reserved design and was more comfortable. She would have been so much better. Really wish the talents were allowed to give input on their designs. I think she would have been more comfortable voice acting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
It's rrat but it's more believable than whatever Nijiniggers say and we already saw how much jealous some NijiENs are with Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
CouncilRyS and Myth together!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801465
Too little and with no aim. Say they put in one gook, one spic, one frog etc. What are they going to do, just stream in their language by themselves then collab in whatever secondary language they know with whatever branch mains that language? Sounds like a good way to either get forgotten or burn out from carrying a whole region by yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800777
Kiara is number one in EN in watch hours? Obviously she’s buffed but Jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802413
>>28801611
Noor isn't a manager like you fags believe, she's content manager, not high management or talent manager. The highest manager of EN is an indog who's overseas producer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802646
Nose...

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck is Vox clinging to Calli so much recently? Find it odd. Good thing they aren't allowed to collab and she can focus on my boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802788
I have a hard time taking her music career seriously knowing that she's mainly carried by army of Takeshi thinking, wow Karii-san kakkoi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802837
based shork
https://files.catbox.moe/t6uipf.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
he has no shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
Ok Fulgur. Thanks for info.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802366
>Ame
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
he's a desperate leecher

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
maybe the recent council incline is a sort of inverse of the luxiem/myth "regressing to the mean" effect? Council got the news about Sana's graduation in private a long time before everyone else did, so they probably had a period of few, low-energy streams depressing their numbers.

It's like when we first heard about Coco graduation and then realized that a few months earlier there were many holos who had a sort of depression arc going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802837
I love how similar Gura and Aqua are. You'd think they would get along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
Because he's fucking scared lol
Even if Tempus flops because they can't capture chink fujos, they will still end up leeching more than JP stars were ever allowed due to Bae and Calli being willing, and EN3 will probably have one who also is okay with Stars collabs, effectively integrating them

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802986
Stop reading the thread kiara

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny how this thread hates nijien and nijisanji so much but gets butthurt when holos cant collab with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803184
I think it's more likely that the other males in wave 6 will take part of his audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802646
She's cringe, but her roommate already had an original song with over a million views before she actually joined Hololive.
That was pretty huge for the time, and some Hololive members still don't have that now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802837
>A few NijiENs have made tentative overtures at contact with Gura
Who and when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28800571
basically me, this week alone, i've watched 6 of her pas streams full while working. Gura ain't playing when she said "everyday at this hour you'll feel an itch on your brain, itching for a certain shark" IT FUCKING WORKS. Her streaming schedule perfectly aligned with my work hour, and I could only focus while playing her vods in background

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802507
You don't have to believe it is real or bullshit. I don't believe it either, and in fact agree with your assessment that there's not that many people that possess true charisma in the industry. I am simply explaining one of the more likely reasons for manager to block cross-company cooperation, which is why it is more likely to be the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803270
I saved this extremely excellent link from this very thread, which answers your query:
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3APomuRainpuff%20OR%20from%3AEliraPendora%20OR%20from%3AFinanaRyugu%20OR%20from%3ARosemi_Lovelock%20OR%20from%3APetra_Gurin%20OR%20from%3ASelen_Tatsuki%20OR%20from%3AMillieParfait%20OR%20from%3AEnnaAlouette%20OR%20from%3ANinaKosaka%20OR%20from%3AReimuEndou%20OR%20from%3AIke_Eveland%20OR%20from%3AMysta_Rias%20OR%20from%3AVox_Akuma%20OR%20from%3ALuca_Kaneshiro%20OR%20from%3AShu_Yamino%20OR%20from%3Asonny_brisko%20OR%20from%3Auki_violeta%20OR%20from%3Aalban_knox%20OR%20from%3Afulgur_ovid%20OR%20from%3Ayugo_asuma)%20(to%3AGawrGura)&src=typed_query&f=top

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
Vox situation isn't good right now and understanding that the management won't stop accelerating, I think he's just preparing for his exit plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803231
More funny thing is holo is the one blocking the collab and they are blaming niji kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801893
>>28801125
>>28800777
Watch hours is a shit number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803231
>>28803352
maybe if you beg a little more I could consider giving you a pity click

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803171
Aqua is literally Gura's oshi. And they can't really communicate so there's no meaningful friendship to develop there. This is why Gura has decided to BECOME Aqua insead.

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically if nijien members really want to open up holo collabs, they should chat up fubuki lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803231
Honestly a lot of it is just shitposting
It genuinely is fun to shit on the niji yab machine and "culture"

[Anonymous No.]

>>28801878
>lack of faith in the charisma of your talent.
I can't blame them for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
Mori's IRL clique is very british. Vox is also british and probably close to some of those people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803384
Keep seething at niji's success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803336
If you're Vox and you're worried about FULL NIJI ACCEL, is it a decent idea to not renew your contract and go indie? Niji fans are hardly sensitive about roommate posting and other vtuber "taboos", so you'd think his fujos would find him fast.
It always seems to me as an outsider that Vox is like a NijiMales version of Gura writ smaller, in that he has fans that are there for him alone and are part of the Niji box just by association.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803324
Why are these people so desperate for attention?
The thing I most dislike about Nijisanji culture is that they forego individuality in favor of numbers. It's always been non-stop collaboration and begging since day 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803184
>EN3 will probably have one who also is okay with Stars collabs
Imagine the shitstorm if Wolfychu actually got in

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803403
Has NijiEN even mentioned holoJP at all?
inb4 Nina mentioning Coco and her roommate

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803231
>butthurt when holos cant collab with them
?
>nijisanji
plenty of good niji main branch members

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803171
Aqua had plenty of interactions with non-Holos though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803171
>both autistic
>both retarded
>both mega introverts
>both only semi-functional living on their own
THEY ARE

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803473
>success
lmao I keep laughing

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803336
Vox is shaping up to be everyone's least favorite Luxiem lmao. They all prefer the other lads, its just that he streams in the chink primetime most of the time so his numbers are bigger. Every time the others come down to chinkland, they mog Vox at his own game. Mysta's made it a mission to always overlap him to death too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803473
The only one i see seething here is you, don't you have some homos to be afraid of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803403

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803481
As Kson has aptly demonstrated, the "go indie and take your fans" strategy is fucking retarded. She probably lost millions in merch for the one year she was an indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803490
the only big thing she has are her subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803527
NOT GOING TO SURIVE EVEN IF THEY LIVE TOGHETER

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803534
His stream is laging that is why his number is low

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803576
>>28803492

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803611
sad cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd0rZHNHUqQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803611
His stream is always lagging, hence the Zs. Its not an outlier any more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802687
That's true. Petra and Selen had it and they have more than 15 collabs with JP members alone.
I don't understand anons shitting on them for that when those girls are literally doing what they said they would. Just look at their channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803632
How the fuck do you even make that mistake?

>>28803654
I'm actually starting to think that they have hololive living rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803171
if you think of it, most of top holo behaved the same, aqua, gura, pekora (heck even marine said that you have to meet a certain standard to be able to catch pekora's attention for a collab). No wonder they are my oshis, i love classy cute chuubas who knows their quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803231
You fuckers need to understand one thing that this thread is not a living being it doesn't have a singular brain it's just a bunch of retards and a few cool number bros doing whatever they want to do different groups of people come here everyday and they shit on groups that they don't like. So stop acting like Nijisanji is some sort of victim getting raped because they aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803481
Honestly yeah, his best performing content requires him to be alone. Now that he's used niji to find a sizable audience he could take those chinks with him and go on his own before his fanbase gets eroded by new hires and required collabing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803495
I mentioned nijisanji itself because you fags still hate on the jp branch as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803654
Absolutely embarrassing. If the management didn't blacklist Hololive, he could've already collabed with Gura by now.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder:

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803717
My theroy: Hololive's position in the western market is so strong that for most English-speaking fans, Hololive (subconsciously) is synonymous with "vtubing". This applies even to talents who work for other corpos. So these occasional slip-ups leak out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803802
JP branch is no better than EN outside of maybe 3 or 4 of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803830
are you telling me Pekora will end up kissing a girl despite being straight as an arrow?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803830
Inshallah

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803830
strange that this gets posted after niji got called a cult earlier in the thread. you truly are a load of brianless copycats that are incapable of original thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803654
Petra "Gura Killer" Gurin

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803899
yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803899
She already did, just not willingly Puuukusukusu

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803534
You fags are generally wrong on how things are but yes, Vox is generally disliked by other fans because of how he is

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803841
Or maybe he bought /vt/'s rrat about Petra being a Gura killer

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803899
Yes, in fact she already does but the reason we aren't seeing any public affection towards Miko is to keep her carefully crafted image of a raging homophobe intact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803481
That's probably a bigger worry for the non-Luxiem part of NijiEN. Hell, I'll even go as far and say that any wave that isn't part of Lazusydia (Founder Buff) or Luxiem should be worried about their audience or would-be audience. We legit might see the NijiEN branch pushing close to 50 talents by the end of 2023 and assuming that the industry doesn't get another 2020-21 boom, the audience for vtubers, even if it did grow a bit, may not be able to support a full 50 talents from either company

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803029
calli is a pretty big name amongst big anime streamer, she deadass got invited to sydney's wedding, wide networking in music, and with the backing of hololive and UMG's connection, safe to say she's one of the big boss in EN vtubing sphere no matter even if her ccv numbers not backing it up lately, she still sold out a deadass concert and charting high with her albums. Vox might wanna change his direction of career and expand his networking, knowing that being fujos centered won't guarantee him a long run career

[Anonymous No.]

>>28790088
does she have two tails in that one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802988
I did not say she was there was only two weeks between IN getting axed and EN launching. Anycolor did not hire all new english speaking management, they recycled the IN staff they had

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803989
I can honestly see one of the the nijis get so invested in shitposting that they subconsciously calls Petra for "gura-killer" in private

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803586
People really need to understand that a vtuber, their roommate, and any reincarnations are completely different entities and the difference between them is context. Just because you enjoy one doesn't mean you will necessarily enjoy the other, even if they do similar content. This is because they are in a completely different context, i.e. not in the same company, not interacting with the same people, different public images, different content, different appearance, maybe different voice, the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803802
Bitch you should stop coming here if you genuinely care that much.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Towa going for Suisei route? Her music is getting better (sorry, not number wise), her image is changing to cool girl and her merch numbers are going up (her sanrio numbers are insane, her weiss cards are one of the most expensive)

How would she fare if she shelves her fps streams, collabs with Pekora a lot more and starts focusing on music seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive stole Salome's tourists, is this true? they are fucking inclined . Today Marine and Subaru got 52k in chat stream .

[Anonymous No.]

>67 (You)s in this thread and none of my posts are bait
You guys are lucky to have me, honestly. I could be blessing /NijiEN/ with my presence but I decided out of the goodness of my heart to entertain you guys instead. Be grateful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804015
Nijifans will just abandon it while holofans stick to hololive though. So Hololive wins by doing nothing, again

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803989
Petra is just a chuuba killer in general, giving out death touches to everyone in range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804029
I only see the one, covering her left nipple. The thing on the other side of her is a strap or something from her outfit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804022
Her CCV is fine. She can push 9-10k on neutral games...if she streams in fucking NA timezone. Her VODs are good too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
all thanks to Pekora's black hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804029
Not unless you mean her hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804109

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804117
Is that why Obsydia anniversary had bigger number than lazulight? leave the girl alone, shes harmless

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
It was so nice for Salome to onboard a bunch of new fans to eventually find the dominant market player. Yagoo should send her a bottle of champagne.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
Monsters aren't just pekora in Hololive. If Koshien is over, Hololive are still inclined, then They will completely monopoly market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
please continue to write fiction its entertaining

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803473
>Nijisanji is successful
>Holobronies seething
And yet still wants validation from Holobronies of all people

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803899
She already kissed Miko, but she woke up from being brainwashed. Now she avoids Miko because she is scared that she fall in transe again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
Thanks, Fulgur. Sorry about Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802707
Well we have evidence of that. I kinda doubt HoloEN has a channel dedicated to griping and venting about NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804029
>>28804186
>>28804241
wait, wrong post. here:


>>28790397
does she have two tails in that one? or just a long, coiled one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
Is there anyway we can test this? I was thinking if creating a new youtube account on a phone that's connected solely to mobile data and watching Salome streams, and then seeing if Niji or Holo clips get recommended more would be a viable method?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804495
I'd say in this one, the tail is just very exaggeratedly long, snaking through her lower thighs and around her back

[Anonymous No.]

Why this thread still think its chinese shit blocking nijien collabs when this block thing has been a problem since only lazulight existed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804100
she can focus on both i guess? it's a bit shame if she suddenly ditched her fps activities knowing that she got tons of networking there

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
they've had those numbers before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28796808
Kronii posted her schedule 12 hours later after bae did, so she must have seen it. I don't think she cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804562
Are you confused? Haachama Taiwan incident: September 28, 2020. Lazulight debut: May 15, 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804197
yea i do noticed that, she streams mostly on jp times, not even jp prime time, she once streamed a debuff game on NA time and got a decent 10k ccv. Let's wait until she fully moved to US

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804100
Sort of. As per an interview she did for Orio, shes gotten confidence in her music and singing and wants to bring her music to more people, possibly with a label debut. Shes getting more traction, shes well regarded in the industry, her ep was quality and sold well, she basically joint headlined holofes with suisei and her numbers are improving. Her image isn't really changing any tho. To really hit the Suzy route from now she needs her ghost moment and then hit up all the big chuuba music festivals. She absolutely should not shelve the fps streams though there is a massive overlap between the fps crowd and the idol/singer crowd because loads of them play fps too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804652 (me)
That date is actually the day of her suspension but anyway, you get the idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804269
Come on anon, it's a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804608
Not since the great 2020 cull they haven't. Pekora's floor is probably 35k+ right now or some shit. Once Koshien is over, and with Salome somewhat capped at 40k, she'll be able to basically stream any slightly interesting content and be an auto gold.

[Anonymous No.]

How could you do this faunaschizo
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1550228316371750912

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804562
collabs outside HololiveEN in general were rare even when Lazulight debut. Pikamee and Ina, Nyanners Kiara, and Ironmouse Calliope didnt all happen until mid to late June/July ranges. HoloEN was always fairly closed up, didnt matter if it was NijiEN or not. Kiara has said more recently that outside collabs are easier to get approved for now though unlike back then, its just most girls just dont bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804743
Well don't fucking joke about her. She gets enough shit from her own worthless douchebag coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803606
maybe one of them will be inspired by how helpless and retarded the other one is and save them both

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804743
You're gonna set off the Petra-Anya schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
lazy green whore

[Anonymous No.]

More ccv = more subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804652
I think he meant that this was a problem even before Luxiem came and gather massive chinese audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
She's such a numberfag. She only canceled the stream because of Amelia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804652
>>28804805
I say this because many have the rrats about nijien collab blocked because of china. ut that situation happens since the beginning when the branch had no chinese audience. its another motive other than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
Ore no Faufauuuuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804453
They don't I mean Holos are mostly busy with their own lives and come together only when they have ideas that they think they are cool. They are more focused on their projects while NijiEN is busy with their we are a family thing. They probably made that vent channel to get closer to each other so that they can show how much chemistry and unity they have. They are trying to copy Holojp and failing to understand that Holojp took years to get closer and understand each other. Getting closer should be a natural process not a compulsory it's totally fine if you don't get along with all of your co workers but they are just too stupid to understand that that's they have Hololive living rent free in their head because they are trying to copy a them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
Holy shit, is this ames fault??

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804967
hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
Damn I was looking forward to death road to canada

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804967
I CAN'T BELIEVE AME DID THAT!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28799191
>Something happened in the end of June that shot their numbers sky high and it was not Sana graduation, because she announces a little over a week ago.
Council has had a lot of strong streams in the past month with multiple off-collabs and good collab ideas. They also streamed Holocure much more than Myth did. Another factor would be Bae streaming a lot less this past month due to travel and she usually drags down Council's overall numbers.
Mumei, Kronii, and Fauna are all hovering around 9-10k average or medians this month, which are better numbers than Kiara and Ame most days.

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>>28801449
>>28801611
Doubt it. Chinese don't mind or care about Holo EN. They went after Coco/JP Holos that interacted with her. If it was the Chinese audience then HoloJP and NijiJP wouldn't be able to collab, but they still do.

It must be something else.

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>>28804802
Saplings are gonna cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804808
Hopefully she gets better co-workers then, but I'm not one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804890
I was giving a reason why they didnt collab before the chinese shit which was, holoEN had a hard time getting any outside shit approved in the first place only really being allowed halfway through 2021 with heavy pushing from Mori/Kiara, which then apparently took even longer to get the process down from needing to fight for it to being more reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine using numberfaggotry to beg for collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
>>28804765
Previous Submarine I remember is post cull, and numbers were pretty close. Might be explained by some overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine Sora playing rust. who would dare to grief her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804967
She should have streamed it, would be good numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805122
rumao, also, is that the sound of junsgang assembling I hear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805197
Absolutely nobody.

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>>28805122
They're still whining about this? When are they gonna get it through their heads that Cover does not want to dilute their brand with a lesser brand. The only reason the JP branches collab is because Nijisanji was the top dog for the first 4 generations of Hololive so they had no choice but to interact. If Nijisanji was smart they would have banned collaboration between Niji and Holo to limit their growth.

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>>28804502
Ok, I did a simple test:
>using an account without vtuber history
>watching 1 stream of salome for 5 secs
>go back to the recs page
pic rel:
Not sure what will happen to JP people tho.

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>>28802976
Kiara is supposedly starting a German side channel, which is the closest to this actually existing. It will be interesting to see if it achieves any success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805122
Why are you screenshot your own comment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805124
damn.. hololive is indeed growing a lot this year..

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805122
Which one of you is this lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805293
Probably him >>28805274

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804802
E

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805263
Yeah I forgot about that lol, when is she going to do anything on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805263
you know what, i totally forgot she did that

[Anonymous No.]

i'm new in this rabbit hole, does anybody know why people here have been saying that matsuri "finally" coming back home to the holobox? what happened? i'm referring to this >>28784346

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>>28805264
>More Holo than Nijireqs
What the fuck
Well I guess the first one is still niji and it's prob the most important esp if autoplaying

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805423
She's been neglecting her idol duties. Less collabs, less singing/dancing, etc. She's been playing too much APEX.

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>>28805423
Unironically do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805264
Korone mentioning Salome is higher up than another Salome video lol, I'm not even sure what to make of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805423
Matsuri streamed nothing but Apex without doing any holobox activities, and killed her popularity because no one fucking wanted to watch her be bad at Apex

That's basically it, lack of interaction and lack of good content, leads to shitty integration within the box

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>>28805477
thanks anon

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>>28802455
I was wondering when someone would make this for Hololive vs Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805264
Nice. Thanks anon. So you basically have 3 (if you count Korone referencing Salome) Holo streams to one Niji (fucking oboretei kek). Are you planning to do further testing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805264
>That Korone clip
Now that I think about it those clips of Holos referencing Salome might be pushed towards her audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805264
Someone else try it by using a new browser with cleared cache/cookies. I don't trust this guy.

[Anonymous No.]

Ame...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805576
eh I don't have a plan but maybe we can just thrown in some idea.
>account with JP region
>>28805653
good idea.

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>>28805423
Matsuri went on an Apex binge last year where she did nothing but Apex and her part of her audience disliked it. It didn't help that it was "serious" Apex so she was collabing with FPS streamers and people outside of Hololive mostly.
It's no secret that nowadays Holos prioritize collabing with other holos first before collabing with outsiders, some holos straight up never collab with non-Holos. Matsuri is the exception.

Getting back in the Holobox refers to shit like Minecraft or the latest FoTM game all the Holos are playing so there will be interactions and clips. Matsuri missed out on a lot of these events due to Apex, but she's been spamming Rust lately, which is the new FoTM.

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>>28805264
To appease >>28805653, do you have a clean copy of Windows? Make a VM and try there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804765
well, zatsus are buff streams for Marine (and arguably Subaru), and she also has a rarity buff, and this is a rare collab pair, and it was probably highly awaited.

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>>28805423
matsuri was never like a numbers monster, but she used to be very clipable and somewhat well liked and even a bit recognized as an entry point, but she continually got into drama both in holo and in her rm, fought with other mem, pretty notably chama and luna, and a couple months ago she was literally getting like 1k for playing apex with random dudes
"how do we save matsuri" has always been a meme around here

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>>28804802
>>28804881
Fauna has been feeling unwell lately so I don't think this is due to numberfagging
She has been noticeably sick and off on all of her recent streams, seems she has lingering effects from the coof. I think she even ended her Sana minecraft thing pretty early because of it.

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>>28805669
clash of tempus whore vs green whore

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>>28805722
You don't have to go that far. Just change your Windows system region and language to Japanese and look up Salomes name in Japanese サロメ

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>>28805544
ah i see, thanks for explaining it anon, but her ccv stays the same tho from two years ago compared to now?

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>>28805197
watch her go on a rampage needing everyone else on the server to stop her.

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>>28805780
I will never forgive mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805780
I think she actually currently has the kung flu, but managed to get some weak version and decided to just power through it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805780
mommy...

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>>28805719
>>28805754
thanks for explaining it anons

dramas with luna and chama? is that why people are celebrating it when luna appeared on matsuri's chat yesterday?

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>>28805824
Like the other anon said, Matsuri has never been a numbers monster, even during the big 2020 boom.
That being said there is a difference between getting 6-8k with Rust or a Holocollab vs getting 1-2k with Apex. Also, 2 of the streams in your picture are Demon Slayer Watchalongs lol.

"Getting back into the Holobox" isn't a magical number cure-all, or else Akirose and Choco would be getting much better numbers too.

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>>28805966
It's a little rare to find someone who doesn't know the Matsuri drama story, or maybe I guess it wouldn't be these days. There's a giant copypasta for it but I didn't save it, maybe someone else has it

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>>28804802
If only Bae was this smart as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>28805122 (me)
It reads just like the nijiniggers /here/

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>>28805669
Amelia will delay or drop these times. It feels like shes been avoiding EST for months

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>>28806048
If you want to numberfag, Ame is the someone you shouldn't be afraid to dodge because you're most likely going to get the lion's share of the viewers. Kronii is the opposite, but Bae is playing Holocure so she should be getting 15k+ regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804109
were you >>28799140?

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>>28805966
Short version for festivaluna
>Matsuri gets real close to the new to hololive Luna
>Luna really likes her back
>They do kino couple streams
>Matsuri is a menhera with commitment issues
>Something happens, a promise is broken and they have a big fight
>Luna basically ignores Matsuri's existence for years, even throughout Matsuri's desperate attempts to appeal to her
>Yesterday happens

[Anonymous No.]

>Holo Rust
They're playing with fire here. Newfags here don't remember the great Niji ARK war of 2020 that left Roa hospitalized and ruined many friendships in Nijisanji, including the friendship between Gundo and Takamiya. It was full on Three Kingdoms shit with massive killings, kidnappings, pillaging, negotiation, alliances, and betrayal. Truly one of the most kino arcs in all of vtubing. Genuinely feel bad for anons who missed it.

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>>28806064
it does lol

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>>28806195
Nah, Bae won't be getting 15k, maybe 10k but barely
Holocure buff has worn out till the next update and she is also getting overlapped by Kronii on a first Holocure stream.

Ame eating good tonight though which is good

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>>28804117
maybe she just needs to not be on screen.

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>>28805966
Luna - apparently broke a really important promise and Luna and had basically stopped interacting with her flat out (would always "joke" about how she'd be really happy if Luna called her back).
Haachama - Basically forced Haachama to participate in her birthday live as a cardboard while she sang through a discord call. This was after Haachama appeared in Rushia's 3D live after ignoring Matsuri iirc.

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>>28806325
>watching Nijisanji

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>>28805122
did some research, mostly posts on niji and virtualyoutubers, so no jungang on this
picrel is his reply to the yagoo fountain post on the holo sub

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806325
https://youtu.be/Znl4KC8v_-g
>all these fucking autistic walls of text charts and lore videos
Jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

It would be hilarious if HoloEN started collabing with NijiJP while NijiEN was forced to watch. Ollie already had a collab with Gundou. Which was one of the cringiest things I've ever seen

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>>28805966
so, for the chammers drama it was basically a scheduling conflict about guests at 3Ds that matsuri handled very poorly, to the point she was complaining very publicly about chammers going to the green menhera's 3D but not hers since she was trying to get a gen1 number but she didn't book things in advance enough so chammers was on break when she asked
for luna, matsuri basically treated her as a replacement for hoshikawa from niji, whom she tried to fuck for a long time and it got real weird, to the point luna just started ignoring matsuri
if you're ever interested, try to find out about the song matsuri dedicated to luna and what luna's response was, it's kind of funny

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>>28805722
>>28805811
>>28805653
I actually did it with JP region setting
>watched salome debut
>watched her second stream
result:
14 niji 5 hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806325
you should've waited until the next thread to post this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806462
Heh I forgot about that

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>>28805966
The drama with Haachama was last year when Matsuri freaked out on Twitter. Haachama had promised to attend her birthday event but had ghosted Matsuri. Then come Rushia's live, Haachama was there. Matsuri freaked out because she thought Haachama hated her and thought about harming herself if I remember correctly. She never actually badmouthed Haachama though and apologized quickly. Afterwards both thought the other must be mad at them and they kind of avoided each other for a bit.
Luna is a mystery. We know they had a fight over a broken promise and that's it. The fight most likely happened late last August. It wasn't because of a romance issue however. Luna was already full on Subaru months before that and they had no issues with each other then

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>>28806494
Now clear your cookies and try it with Pekora to see if YouTube plays favorites

[Anonymous No.]

>CTRL+F NIJI 175
>CTRL+F HOLO 200
Nijisanji is inclining

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>>28806462
I don't see Holo EN ever collabing with Niji JP. Is there any scenario in which that would even make sense from a content point of view? No one plays competitive FPS. Ame will never enter a tournament, the rest of them are dogshit and only dabble in it occasionally.

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>>28806048
She doesn't care about numbers, so she wouldn't cancel on her viewers.

Even if she did, she's too nice to tell off Kronii who scheduled something at the same time as hers.

>>28806195
Holocure hype seems to be gone. Though Fire Emblem is boring, so who knows. Don't think she will beat Kronii though, her viewers are really dedicated.

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>>28805966
Haachama promised she would send in a voice recording for matsuri's 3d live before telling Matsuri she couldn't do it and then ghosting all her dms. A month later, Rushia's 3d live airs and Haachama is in it. Matsuri has an episode and starts a tweet storm on her subtwitter putting Haachama on blast. Haachama's cardboard cutout ended up having no voice.
Also, the Rushia bit is significant because Matsuri later used this incident to bully Rushia out of the company, which was one of the things Rushia complained about when she was talking about a senpai who was an Apex player and someone who went to host clubs.

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>>28806325
Didn't like the Ark tribes form groups like Usaken and Shiraken and released group songs too?
Pretty kino but I think Niji's too scattered now for stuff like to happen again.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh right, another wave of disposable nijis is out
Anything worth mentioning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806584
Mori and Kuzuha would be pretty kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806462
There's 0 chance of JP doing collabs with HoloEN.
And idk why this woud be a problem when many nijien have done a lot of collabs with jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806584
Salome and Gura. The meeting of two titans. 200k stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806465
That song was so fucking pathetic, I've never cringed harder at a Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806314
>>28806394
>>28806526
These are the good answers

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>>28805122
Holy fuck, these guys are pathetic. Why don't they just beg Mito instead? She's Pomu's oshi, right? Why beg outside when there's a fuck ton of members in Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806462
I still have no idea why that happened or who thought it was a good idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806604
Wait are they already debuted? I thought they were doing it after StarsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806597
Are we going back into speculating who was the evil senpai who dared to stream in Rushia's timeslot?

[Anonymous No.]

>spoonfeeding the newfag

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>>28806325
I think I remember watching a summary video of it back when clips where more than 2 minutes long (also back when I didn't despise Nijisanji and Nijiniggers yet) I think I remember Gwelu and Kuzuha getting into some sort of (kayfabe?) fight and getting their fanbases going nuclear on each other in the process. I doubt that happens with Holo though. FBK runs a tight ship and if the whole Matsuri v Chammers thing didn't lead to a fanbase war then I doubt any bad blood gets mixed into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806758
you want to talk about something else? show the class

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806688
Which song? Was it in a karaoke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28804102
?? that's normal for marine collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806712
Gundou probably trying to make a move to get in with the foreign Holo branches, had one encounter with Ollies concentrated autism and noped out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806595
>Though Fire Emblem is boring
It's not really Fire Emblem, it's a Dynasty Warriors clone of Fire Emblem. First time Holocure is def going to beat it, but I think Kronii can get 8k with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806789
Thankfully Matsuri apologized quick enough that most only found out because of the apology. Makes me wonder how Hololive would handle an actual fight in the public eye though

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806325
Early Niji was so good. Nijisanji really declined with every gen after Gamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806494
>Towa's birthday live from last year
Bodes nicely for this year's live lol. I notice a tamaki gartic phone collab there too. Outreach does pay off at times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806462
Technically VCarnival had Mori and some NijiJPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806789
Holos will never get that far in a video game anyways. It's a surprise that they're even willing to grief each other in Rust right now.
I have a feeling HoloEN Rust is going to be lame because no one will want to kill each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806447
>The great Wall of Nijisanji filters

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806675
Gura hasn't even one on one collabed with Pekora. It's stupid. It's like Mayweather and Pacquiao never fighting until they were both past their prime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806798
https://youtu.be/JonQ09L2N0U

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802837
absolutely completely based shark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806853
How many people will bother checking it out if they think it's the real Fire Emblem?

[Anonymous No.]

Kek Ame delayed by an hour because ofc she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806758
Fauna cancelled so I don't have much else to do right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807030
Ah fuck I memory holed this. I remember physically cringing when this came out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807008
Mayweather would have won anyway, no point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28802294
All the important people in the branch are the ones who would want to branch out into collabing with Hololive. Vox, Selen, Elira, Pomu, Nina ect. If there's some shitters that "don't like them" like Fulgur it wouldn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806789
Unfortunately that has basically stopped king from joining anything like that again because his fanbase sperges out too much and causes trouble he doesn't want to have to deal with

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806789
The main issue there was always the fanbases being too separate and too toxic to handle that kind of interaction. Under the HoloBox it’ll be just like the fucking around and killing each other in MC. Remember that Nijifans are also the biggest Nijiantis, especially back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806574
32 holo 8 niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807008
JPs are autistic about their eigo skills. Gura is too. To be honest I don't expect Pekora/Gura to reach to each other because of how they are, but Miko/Gura or FBK/Gura I did expect and it never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806422
that guy mostly posts on r/hololive anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807273
>32 holo
>32
Jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>28803830
anyone got miko strapping herself to a missile to kill nijinigs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807030
>That thumbnail
>Those lyrics
Bahahaha who okayed this? Did Luna just ignore this? How would you even respond?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807273
Stop faking the result holokeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807350
She did ignore it kek that's what makes it worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807030
Post the better song about these two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9nCZqeGMTo

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806494
>Only 8 on the niji side are non-salome results
>4 of those 8 are shorts
I think we might have something here. Hear me out on this.
>Be tourist
>Watch purple Ojousama because big number and new hotness
>Somewhat familiar with vtubers and heard of Niji from the baseball thing last year.
>Hololive? The fuck is that
>Get recommended some bunny girl vtuber with weird laugh
>This girl is funny as fuck WWWW
>Suddenly get recommended purple loli
>Uoohhhhhh
>Get recommended some tokyo ghoul rip off and his bf
>No way fag
>Get recommended a dog girl playing some game I played when I was in middle school
>Nostalgia train hitting hard
2 weeks after
>recs get completely overtaken by hololive
>pretty much familiar with almost all of the roster so I'll watch twappers new outfit reveal coz why not
>Salome? who da fuck is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807371
what did i even fake, it isn't that bad
every 3 salome vod, you find 1 holo
every 4 pekora vod, you find 1 niji

[Anonymous No.]

Just to confirm but Nari streamed the same sponsorship ange did and she also didn't show HoloEN, same as Elira. Its not because of rrats, its because they have a different script compared to Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807273
There's some EN translated clips in there jesas. Much more vtubing overall, that's interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807447
Yeah they weren't doing a simulcast stream like Ange right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28806494
I believe you shouldn't count Salome streams/clips for that. If I'm not mistaken if you take her out it's 7-5 for niji, but over half of them are fucking shorts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807371
seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807274

[Anonymous No.]

>>28807273
Fucking Kaela is in there. ID chads...