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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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DEEZNUTS

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>>28743677
nta but pretty sure he meant "based on AR", not that their AR is based

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Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Nerver trust Nijiliars

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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>80,534: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>44,799: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,419: Salome (Nijisanji)
>31,286: Miko (Hololive)
>28,534: Nui (Nijisanji)
>24,383: Okayu (Hololive)
>21,311: Fubuki (Nijisanji)
>19,277: Ars (Nijisanji)
>17,385: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,694: Mio (Hololive)
>15,606: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,974: Luna (Hololive)
>14,771: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,554: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,272: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,084: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,396: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,980: Sana (Hololive)
>10,325: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,183: Kronii (Hololive)

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Based? Based on what?

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Posted without context:

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giving the homos a hand is gonna end up with your arm ripped off, hope you know
just pray they turn into 3 views fast so they give them more reason to scrap the whole branch

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Reminder that we love Gura here

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>>28743834
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya

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>>28743457
I seriously don't know why there's fifty billion threads comparing nijisanji's 3d to hololive and shitting on hololive when nijisanji's live2d is barely a step up from a png most of the time

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>>28743614
Does Isegye get approached by a Korean media company to open multiple cafes?

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>>28743895
nijiseethe

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>>28743846
BASED ON DEEZ MAG!

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Gura said her absent will make sense in the future, management said yes to her previous rejected project, maybe for her anniversary now?

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DemoDfag he will never be in Holostars and neither will Sseth fuck off

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>>28743882
larger market that spans the world vs smaller market but with a concentrated audience in a single time zone
there

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So, what are the differences between each versions of Nijisanji's L2D?

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>>28743903
Speaking of which, her memgen peaked at ~3.5k according to phone playlist bug

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>>28743895
The only branches that've ever been scrapped for low views are nijis branches, so I understand why that would make sense to a nijinigger like you but that's not how we roll

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>>28743882
Anon, she lost to fucking Towa last year.

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>>28736523
update: the thing that's been keeping gura busy si her original birthday stream idea which got denied at the last minute suddenly got the green light so shes been finishing it and said we'll see soon.

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funny thread?

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>>28743962
Does it matter though? She's always on break anyway.

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>>28743948
>>28744057
fuck nijisanji, they actually like homos there, there should be no male vtubers at all

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>>28743962
Said yes because shes graduating. Final gift thats why she doesnt want to cry crocodile tears like the rest of EN is for Sana because shes on her way out too

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>>28743685

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>>28743903
I can only offer apathy, take it or leave it.

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>>28743921
Is there a reason they're so allergic to upgrading it? Covers 3.0 looks fantastic, there are indies with fantastic rigging, and it's all making Nijisanji's look worse every month

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>deleted
uhhhh... that's one of the more common replies here, new jannies?

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>holoen
>no streams in the daily top 10(even 20) everyday
>one member is fired


NijiCHAD

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>>28744106
NIjiseethe

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>>28743685
Final /news/ roundup for 20-07-2022
>>28689995

>Additional news
>>28692001

Recent clip numbers
>>28670801
>>28670862
>>28671101
>>28671160

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>>28743557
Not really. They do have their own in-house AR tech but they don't use it for every single 3D events. It's only for events at real life venue and even then not all of them utilized AR.

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>>28744136
Almost there Kobo, only 600 more.

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>>28744186
niji's tech crews are all 100% focused on getting the 1.5 year and counting 3d backlog out of the way

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>>28744195
Baffling post considering unsharked HoloEN has mogged NijiEN in cripple gold all month. Can you fags even still win if you take every single day?

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>>28744123
Don't threaten /#/ with a good time, anon

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>>28743882
Stream length makes a big diff. It lets people like Kiara and Luca scrape their way to 100k view VODs despite mediocre CCV.

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>>28744185
This jannie is an obvious nijinigger who will delete post shitting on nijisanji but allow off topic /pol/ discussions to stay on the board, go use the feedback form if you care enough

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>>28744309
>Can you fags even still win
Selen won like once a few days ago.

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>>28743685
Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 ::Sana
>>28582197

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>>28744123
And then she will join VShojo right?

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>>28743962
Isn't she just gone this week because if Mori's concert tonight?

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>>28744397
The monthly gold you idiot. Can you win it if NijIEN takes every cripple gold for the rest of the month?

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https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549937208487976960
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549937208487976960
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549937208487976960

Too late man

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>>28744493
Cope

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>>28744493
You tell me, we're on the 21st.

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>>28744447
Man I wish that's true...

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>>28744186
unironically because there are too many of them to feasibly upgrade it in time. It's the same problem with their 3d queue that's the length of the empire state building

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nijifans are never scared of truth

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The Hololive collaboration cafe opened in Korea and it was a huge success, more than I anticipated it would be. I assumed that the honeymoon phase of vtubers already ended in KR, but it seems it will continue for a little while longer. So HoloKR soon? What do you guys think?

Additionally, with the confirmation of Hololive's popularity in KR, I think a HoloKR has the potential to smash Isegye numbers if COVER plays their cards right. Looking at the current management I doubt it'll happen. But, at the very least, the opportunity for Hololive to make a KR branch will continue to be open as long as HoloEN does well.

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>>28744447
we don't actually know, also I'm pretty sure whatever she's doing for mori's concert is recorded way back during her birthday week because it'll be very short notice for them to do it now

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>>28744664
Nijihands wrote this post.

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>>28744186
>100+ chuubas and growing
I dunno, you tell me.

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>>28742498
> No AR Tech
https://youtu.be/V0Zk55CpFEM?t=325
You can't even say that their just putting the objects over a video as there are parts where the model is covered by moving objects in the video such as the waiter and the plate at 15:11

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I can't wait until tomorrow when Ame mogs that green whore with the superior game

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>>28744664
The truth is that you were never even HoloEN's rival, let alone HoloJPs

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>>28744698
these types of koreans like hololive because it's not korean, kind of like how some westerners view western vtubers as ethots, koreans view korean vtubers as either ethots or race traitors (rip bora)

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>>28743957

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>>28744493
NijiEN probably going to win overall gold on the Wave6 debut day, unless King cucks them with Koshien like how he cucked Noctyx's debuts with the Chronoir concert.
Doesn't seem like there's any holoevent on the 25th that can get 60-80k.

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>>28744664
Then why does calling bots bots make nijifags seethe so much?

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>>28744698
The time for HoloKR is when Isegye has a huge drama or some other shake up changes the state of the market

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>>28744083
Wonder what happened with that.
I recall Kiara implied that Ame scared management with the 3D live.

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>>28744788
AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>28744441
vsj would probably love most girls from holoen to bring their bases over, with pink nyanners slowly tapping out to spend more time with aethel they can pick up blue nyanners

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>>28744893
If true, then teamate will chalk it up as another win for LA CREATIVITIDAD

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>>28744843
You're fucking delusional if you think a NijiEN debut can win overall gold. Stop letting the trolling rot your brain, there is zero actual market for NijiEN, and their Ceiling is dogshit lifted up by CN market

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>>28744698
>HoloKR
Haha, no. Most, if not all, of KR Holofags have already found their place in HoloJP or EN (and a small bit in ID). Creating HoloKR would just cannibalize those viewers, and their numbers aren't enough to be worthy of investment.

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>>28744698
> I think a HoloKR has the potential to smash Isegye numbers
Uh, aren't they on different plataforms? Even more so, just searching for '이세계아이돌 hololive' I got this on the first result:

https://youtu.be/fU8picIMbSk
More likely that both end doing something together *If* HoloKR became a thing

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>>28744822
People said the same thing about the EN audience before holoEN debuted and look where we are now?

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Does anyone think NijiEN6 debut might beat Pekora's 3D live for top gold?

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>>28744698
Good for Hololive, but I don't think HoloKR will work out since KR prefers KR stuffs rather than JP stuffs.

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>>28744698
There's barely anybody there. What happened to the 4 hour lines?

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>>28745047
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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>>28744698
Isn't it the case of the grass is greener on the other side? Korean like Holo because they are not Korean.

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>>28745004
funny I heard the exact same thing said before holoEN debuted

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>>28745047
Depends how much can Riku spend on bots

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>>28744893
Scared in what sense?

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>>28745043
en is not nearly as riled up against their own women as kr, haven't you seen korean demographics lately?

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I severely understimated koreeans if they're flooding this poor cafe. merch will probably sell out in the first hour lmao

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>>28745002
You do know Noctyx got 60k debuts in NA time right? It already happened before and there's nothing delusional about thinking this wave can replicate the same debut numbers.
They only lost that day's gold because Chronoir had a 140k 3D live.

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Im doing my archive reps and found this >>28695794 is this true?

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Subaru's Error stream is now a collab with Marine. It is on at the same time as Towa's new outfit. NijiGold.
https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1549963165974528000

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>>28745066
Probably dispersed when they sold out in 2 hours. What's the point in standing in line for a product that has already run out of stock?

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What if Cover is not thinking like /#/ since they see the result from the cafe and fast-track a Korean branch?

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>>28743685

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>>28745154
i guess its the fact they managed 2 full 3d bdays with little support. although no idea if kiara did say anything like that

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>>28744893
Source?

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>>28744083
great. can we please, for the love of fuck, not do whatever that is as a GUERRILLA?

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>>28745193
>It is on at the same time as Towa's new outfit.
Surely they'll move it.

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>>28745112
Spoken like someone doesn't know just how fucking turbo-cutthroat the gook's entertainment industry is.

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>>28745193
can't beat the overlap

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>>28745181
Noctyx was riding off of Luxium hype numbers you fucking idiot. This new Wave is not going to be anywhere near as successful as Noctyx

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>>28745193
wtf is Cover retarded?
wait don't answer that

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>>28745047
I want to remind you that NijiEN6 will debut at 9AM Monday JST.
I don't even think they can surpass Noctyx numbers

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Anycolor stock doing its best impression of a Niji baseball stream viewer graph right now (not Sultan's).

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>>28745193
Why is the duck retarded

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>>28743685
Iluna debut waiting rooms
>>28714465
Tempus debut dates
>>28714602

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>>28745154
Cover's has a 'you have to be at least THIS good' standard when it comes to their 3D. The proper one, not the VR room shit. Otherwise you won't get a green light, no matter how much you've worked on it.

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>>28745325
Didn't Noctyx debut at the same time? I remember it was a PST friendly time.

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>>28745262
i doubt it, this wouldn't even be the first time subaru overlapped with a major towa event, honestly towa always seems to get overlapped for her big events

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>>28745202
Then they will crash and burn. KR's strength is irl shits not virtual anime girls.

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>>28744788
What even more sad is
>NijiJP has 100+ talents on roster with most being shitters
>NijiEN has like 20 talents of a somewhat similar ccv average
>NijiEN still can't overtake their JP counterparts
NijiEN's audience reach is so badly capped that it's baffling that they consider themselves a challenge to HoloEN who barely put in the effort to stream and most play a different ballgame altogether.

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>>28745027
Only thing I hope is that Hololive doesn't pull a Niji and try to buy Isegye.
They'd probably be their main competition IF Holo decides to enter Korea.

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>>28745190
Is that talking about Kobo? No, it's total bullshit. Just from looking at unique chatters of her streams you can see that she's much more likely getting culled than botted.

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>>28745164
anon I've heard this said about literally every new audience, I feel like being here has given you guys a very warped idea of how self hating most people are

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>>28745301
Guess we'll see on Sunday. You seem quite invested in this so take your meds and chill out man.

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>>28744195
what now
>>28745047
probably not, if the noctyx and the voltaction debuts are any indications, 80k would be actually good

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>>28745435
Yes, but on Sunday JST
Luxiem was on Monday though

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>>28744524
It's funny how they sort of bait and switched with this account by making it weeks ago pretending it was for holoEN. They had no faith anyone would follow a holostar_en account.

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just saw this and was wondering if anyone knew if there was anything else like this, maybe a bit more expansive
>>28745146

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>>28745190
No, it's not. Nijiniggers lie like they fucking breathe, Kobo has international popularity in ID on Tiktok and Facebook. She's a goddamn national sensation. Vox meanwhile is actually, provably botted by Chinks, one look at his graphs and they are full of weird bullshit that are unexplainable without bots, and his subs increases at the exact same rate every day without fail, despite his CCV declining monthly, because his subs are also fake.

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>>28743685

7/19/22
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>13,804: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,624: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,561: Ina (Hololive)
>12,530: Kobo (Hololive)
>11.011: Sana (Hololive)
>10,344: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,232: Kronii (Hololive)
>9,661: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,466: Sana (Hololive)
>7,552: Mori (Hololive)
>7,278: Zeta (Hololive)
>6,009: Kaela (Hololive)
>5,661: Moona (Hololive)
>5,181: Amelia (Hololive)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 13
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Mori

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 16
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
3x: Kobo, Mumei, Ina
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Mumei: 7 (3-1-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 4 (1-0-3)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Mori: 2 (0-1-1)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745190
Kek as if a couple dozen numberfags could have coughed up the kind of money that'd be necessary to artificially create a (local) phenomenon like Kobo.

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>>28745580
Numbers?

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>>28745235
Ah, so in sense, they were scared that the talent was basically having more autonomy then since they didn't need to rely on Japan for 3D events and stuff.

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>>28745566
Not really a bait and switch. The JP one does the exact same thing that one does. Hell I stopped following the JP one a long time ago because there was always a shitton of fucking holostars news I didn't care about

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>>28745190
Just because her viewers are poorer than other big streamers doesn't mean her viewers are botted

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>>28745456
that's retarded in the face of isegye idol and what the hololive cafe is seeing right now

[Anonymous No.]

prtimes page views

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>>28744347
This is true, average CCV would provide a better comparison than just the peaks.
Kiara spends a huge portion of the stream doing superchat reading to under 3k.

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>>28745672
did you not look at the link?
it shows community connections

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>>28745440
Subaru has moved her streams multiple times.
She'll move this one, too.

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>>28745431
Anon, you're talking about a company that regularly puts out 3D content where a girl "grabs" an item and it just hovers like 5 feet in front of them.

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>>28745270
Kek yeah. Even Isegye had to be developed for like a decade to get the success they have now, and it's only on Twitch's inflated numbers, I might add.

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>>28745190
lol are voxsisters really still mad at kobo

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>>28745193
Good, no Towa lewds, I can rest now.

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>>28745824
No lol. She won't

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>>28745193
Good, fuck Towa. Why the fuck is she not playing Rust after all the bullshit she pulled out? because she wasn't interesting in the game itself, she just wanted to suck streamer cock.

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>>28745262
probably, holojp literally has a spreadsheet where they claim slots for events, but like half of them don't even fucking check it before scheduling

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>>28745721
>isegye idol
Other than that? Anything else? Do you know how many companies are there in JP and EN markets?

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>>28745190
Partially true. Her fanbase does consists of zoomer, they do donate but not on platform that you can easily track the amount of. Although ID already have SC enabled, they still prefer using Sociabuzz because they support more payment methods. Comparing her SC to Vox is just a total retardation.
>>28745431
Retard, they just want them to do 3D on their own studio.

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>>28745471
The reason why it didn't work for NijiKr is because nijisanji didn't do their due diligence and kept stepping into landmine after landmine with the company they bought out. You're like that guy who saw the world's first airplane crash into the ground and conclude that airplanes are a fantasy concept not worth investing in.
Honestly in the case of isegye idol the question is if they are willing to get bought out by cover rather than anything else

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>>28745193
what a huge numberfag, knowing her number will suck now it turns into single pov collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745910
....she said she and suisei is gonna play it soon but her outfit reveal comes first bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745560
Well Luxiem's numbers aren't really useful for comparison in this case because their debut numbers are what Tempus should be aiming for (~20k). If iLUNA gets Luxiem's debut numbers, it'll be a catastrophe lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745633
Holy shit, now that you have mentioned, Vox's subs growth are still at the 4k~5k rate daily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745580
Shouldn't her largest overlaps be other hololive channels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745730
I regularly refresh the page for Tempus every few minutes because I knew someone would eventually make a comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744822
>>28745100
Consider this. Why is the collab cafe specifically HoloEN and not HoloJP? It's because most Koreans can speak english because they're taught it in school, people naturally gravitate towards the language they can understand. So I don't believe it'll be any different with KR. Also you're ignoring the fact that both Ina and Kronii are Korean. On top of the fact that Kronii is one of those genderspecial people that Koreans normally despise, but she's forgiven, specifically because she's in Hololive. The Hololive brand is just that powerful in Korea.
>>28744868
Then it's going to take years. All of Isegye idol are veteran streamers, so a yab like that is going to take time. It's more likely that Isegye will fade out of popularity naturally, rather than something else.
>>28745004
>>28745456
You'd be surprised how niche Hololive still is in KR. The potential audience they could grow is huge. Especially if they can capture all of the livecam/pngtuber audience that have recently become more and more disillusioned with their own streamers.
>>28745027
>>28745064
Do you know that Shylily has a huge clipper channel? Vtuber watchers are starting to form into a demographic in Korea, and they're kicking the ass of all other types of streamers. Just check the KR metrics on Twitchtracker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744698
Gooks are contrarian fags. They wouldnt like holoKR

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't that impressive that somehow Tempus is still going close with NijiEN6 despite the multiple debuff?
People might actually like them for personalities alone and not lgbt-pandering

[Anonymous No.]

LazuLight subs 24hrs
>Pomu: 13.5k
>Elira: 14.6k
>Finana: 13.4k

Obsydia subs 24hrs
>Rosemi 16k
>Petra 18k
>Selen 16k

Ethyria subs 24hrs
>Nina 13.7k
>Millie 13.7k
>Enna 12.8k
>Reimu 13.1k

Luxiem subs 24hrs
>Luca 10.7k
>Shu 10.4k
>Ike 11k
>Mysta 11.7k
>Vox 11.8k

Noctyx subs 24hrs
>Sonny 34.9k
>Uki 31.9k
>Alban 40.8k
>Fulgur 31.4k
>Yugo 33k

Iluna subs 24hrs
>Maria 54.3k
>Kyo 52k
>Aia 52.4k
>Aster 55.6k
>Scarle 57.9k
>Ren 56k

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745730
PV/UU ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745190
man the nijiEN thread is just a hive of cope and retardation, no wonder they freak out when they come to the numbers thread if that's the kind of copes they tell themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746189
page views/unique user probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745853
>>28745953
And I'm saying whatever Ame cooked up almost didn't even reach that level of 'quality'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745193
Sorry subaru can't survive with overlap or without collab, need someone to pull big numbers for company's favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746126
That's why i asked if there was another version since its seems to lack vtuber tracking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745580
probably not, but it would actually be nice to have it, i bet like some holojps have more overlap with nijijp than like holoen, it would help with predictions

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745730
That's remarkably close, all things considered
>>28746153
People like you are why there's a unique users counter as well

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG3pPk9lG0
Hololive Phony ranking

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746037
If you look at Vox's sub growth on a chart it's just a fucking linear line. It's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746189
Page views/unique users, because of retards like >>28746153 who lie like they breathe

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746184
ILUNA hasn't been culled at all right? I remember Luxiem and Noctyx being culled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745953
>Retard, they just want them to do 3D on their own studio.
Yeah. The quality standard set by the JP 3D studio is part of the Hololive branding and Cover would obviously prefer to have all the 3D content made in-house to maintain that quality standard. They wouldn't approve ghetto 3D for anyone in JP because there's no logistics issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745967
Well, my point is that buying the company may be a logical move considering koreans and their dismissal of non-korean homegrown stuff. But even then it would be making it a franchise. I don't think that'd be a good idea. I'm sure Holo could make a space for themselves in Korea if they're willing to eat losses for the first (maybe) two years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746174
funny I heard the exact same thing said about the EN market too before holoEN debuted

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746331
we always note how it doesn't seems to be affected by anything he does

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746331
Yeah that one is really fucking weird. At this rate there is no vtuber Vox won't EVENTUALLY beat because 4-5k a day bots keep coming in. Maybe chinks will stop at 1 million.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745633
Seriously? I my post got deleted for RACISM?! Nijijanny...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744034
Ver 1 is pretty damn rudimentary, very stiff, little movement etc etc
Ver 2 is base Cover live2D
Ver 3 is Cover live2D ver 2 but with more expressions

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746370
If there's no sub cull then HoloEN is going to debut near council subs.

[Anonymous No.]

What is with all these deleted posts? Does the new janny not know we can still see them since 4chanX is a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746184
Why was Alban so far ahead in Noctyx?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746401
So Ame is the ghetto boss with the ghetto bitches and whores?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Omega_Nate/status/1549953467623452672

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745580
>>28746269
these things usually have a pretty steep subcount threshold before they start tracking a channel, iirc that one in particular only has gura and kizuna
if it's overlap info between vtuber channels you're looking for, the chat overlap feature in vrabi is the best you'll find

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746573
Design..? Everyone else on Noctyx look like garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746496
>>28746463
Think about this, that's his core viewers creating new account daily to sub him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746569
Someone from #s got accepted and is now cleaning up the triblefagging posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746496
You know Kobo's subgrowth is even more ridiculous than Vox's right? She hasn't slowed down at all since reaching 1 mil and continued to get thousands a day during her break.
Neither are even as crazy as Gura's subgrowth back in 2021.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746578
She runs her own theme park with blackjack and hookers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746688
good

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
line's up to 600+ people right now and would take 3-4 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746573
he's the only one with an actually decent design

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
suigoi... Are korean women that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746569
Well a janny got caught (also got reported) for samefagging a couple days ago. That should tell you all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746184
Can't believe more people were able to stomach Reimu's design than Enna's

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746569
See >>28744378

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746654
I like Yugo's design...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746712
Kobo has in fact slowed down and resumed speeding up several times. Its not the number being big that I'm pointing out here, its them never fluctuating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746573
alban was unironically the only one that didn't look like a ripoff or complete shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746311
>number two is 1.2M
>number one is 18M
Suisei's Phony is too strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
Poor cafe kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
Why does everyone in east Asia have the same haircut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
Hololive just fucking prints money, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
They became niggaism, Name one kpop star that don't look like a slut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746762
Korean women are probably western feminists dialed up to 11. I have no idea but that is what I read from translated Korean social stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746644
you might be right, i had a quick look and all the ones i checked had at least 2m subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746429
vt likes to repeat things even when they were proven wrong every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746517
I don't get it. Why do their new livers debut with 1.0 then? Is this Niji being stingy?
Or are there any livers still using 1.0 in Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746688
Like I said, what's the fucking point since 4chanX is a thing and we can still see all the deleted posts? All it does is just showing on which side they're on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744893
Kiara says a lot of dumb shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746946
Reply to>>28746762

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746921
I'm still curious how much CR payed to have all of HoloEN/ID in their con.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746921
kneel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746898
We don't dye our hair like western degenerates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746569
racism. i got got the other day for posting nijini**er

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746712
It's not about the speed, it's the growth rate that should stick with their performance or content, Kobo's speed still fluctuates with her output, Vox growth rate doesn't stick to how good or how bad his recent output.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746953
I mean back in 2011 didnt south korea had they whole women cult that was exposed about women treating men like cattle and their reach was all the way up to the government.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744788
is there any chance for HoloID to rival NijiJP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746185
They're fun, as a nijiENfag I'd trade any of them for any dude we have currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746712
The point is that sub growths SHOULD fluxuate. If Vox spends 5 days not streaming he should not have the same sub growth rate as when he streams 5 days in a row... and yet he does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747009
Far more likely someone is repeating hearsay about what she said and making it worse than it sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747033
>haircut
>hair color
These are not the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746712
gura and kobo's sub growth fluctuate sometimes while vox's is just a straight line that is not affected by anything he does. even those sub endurance streams which makes it highly suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745190
/#/ truly are the boogeyman that lives rent free in nijikeks heads

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747046
Why is Holobr*ny ok but that is not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746616
Is that Gotoubun on the left side? Looks like the Hololive seciton is only a portion of the cafe then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746712
Kobo has in fact slowed down and sped in in response to her stream content, whereas vox is infamous for his subrate remaining the exact same 3-4k even while doing endurance streams which makes no fucking sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745456
You mean the IRL streamers in KR that are currently having their asses kicked by vtubers? On KR streamer communities IRL female streams are losing ground in pretty much every way. It's going to get worse for them as the vtuber trend continues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747089
Look at the photo closely, not everyone has the same haircut. It looks the same because they are all black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747057
The korean president was a puppet to a feminist astrology cult who were the de facto rulers of the country, as explained to me by a korean on /int/ when this shitshow originally went down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747020
Maybe not that much. For Hololive, the networking and self shilling opportunity is pretty big too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744893
Anything coming out of Kiara's mouth, I'll put at least 30% of doubt because how much she glorified some behind the scene stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746978
because it's cheap and easy to pump out

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747188
ah yes i remember that /int/ post.

[Anonymous No.]

I get second hand embarrassment at all the collabs Cover had done in the past, they've really underestimated a lot of stuff when they could've turn it into a profit. StarsEN or HoloKR would've been big in early 2021 had Cover followed it up after EN myth boom yet they're giving some leeway to Niji to survive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747210
I trust Kiara more than I do Cover management frankly though

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745566
this account was never really a EN account, I complained several times that there was no holoEN content
even starsJP had more posts than holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747126
Because biased nijimeidos

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747124
That nigger is a flip turned #schizo because a random nigger botted millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747033
Funny, that's not what I see when I went to Seoul back before chink flu is a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747056
>>28747076
>>28747108
In that case then everyone in Luxiem and Noctyx are sus for subbotting then since they all get consistent growth every day, just differing in magnitude.
Even Alban gets 2k a day regardless of what number he gets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747168
I wouldn't even care if it didn't spread to the girls, I bet management is tightening the screws on them and pointing to vox "Why can't you be like that? Better boost those subs quick for the IPO"

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747269
But NijiEN doesn't have a Korea cafe, a booth at AX or a big expo at Crunchyroll despite having Vox and Luxiem

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747269
Why would they kill their competitors completely? They are not Americans. Some competitions are healthy for the industry overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747269
Cover isn't Anycolor. They don't approach business from the perspective of 'get rich quick', because they don't plan on exit scamming like Riku is gonna pull

[Anonymous No.]

>>28744822
>>28746173
The actual reality is that Korean audiences will always have at least somewhat of an aversion to half-Japanese or Japanese-influenced vtubers in direct comparison to English ones simply due to the historical and cultural context involved. A not insignificant factor of NijiKR's struggles is that there was still a heavily Japanese and half-Japanese component to the branch that something like HoloEN has no issue with.

If HoloKR ever happened, you would want to specifically aim for something more like HoloID (save Anya) where your streamers are KR-based but with more ties to or elements of EN than JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746781
>even the archives deleted this post
what was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746311
9. Mio (579,667)
8. Lui (580,336)
7. Kanata (580,346)
6. Anya (804,534)
5. Shion (1,088,431)
4. Watame (1,115,668)
3. Polka (1,173,611)
2. Lamy (1,238,087)
1. Suisei (18,186,868)

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747327
Going to Seoul to judge the whole country is like going to London to judge the UK. You would think UK is already a caliphate based on London.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746991
>>28747126
Being bias and toxic is the nijisanji special after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747484
ANYA ON THE TALLY!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745566
It felt like bait up until the very day they came out, like what the fuck were they thinking removing the Holostars logo from the countdown website even though the silhouettes were obviously male
were they trying to get redditors' hopes up that they'd just be males in Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747310
I believe you're thinking of https://twitter.com/hololive_en/
hololivepro_EN was created last month. It was originally named holopro_EN, but changed it's name for some reason after the tempus reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747434
>The actual reality is that Korean audiences will always have at least somewhat of an aversion to half-Japanese or Japanese-influenced vtubers in direct comparison to English ones simply due to the historical and cultural context involved.
Nah. HoloCN was a thing until Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747522
Doesn't half of SK live in the Seoul metro area?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745824
she fucking overlapped holox 3D a while ago
the only time she changes time was when she got overlapped by Pekora or Miko
then she'll run away like a little bitch knowing her number will suck against these two
other members she won't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747306
Yeah but I said jack shit about management but Kiara's german blood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747366
Very unlikely Niji management is on his ass about subs because sub growth for Nijis is historically trash.
Salome has only been around for 2 months and she's the highest subbed person in the company. Vox is going to be 4th and he won't even be a year old yet.
If they were going to be assmad about subs, it would be when Gura speedran to 1 mil, not now when they're the record holder with Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747630
HoloCN was irrelevant and they unironically loved the JP holos 20 times more. It was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746311
>>28747484
GO ANYA GO

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747269
Anon this thing is not from Cover's side. It's the Korean side underestimating the demand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745897
There's a chance she'll delay it to catch the funnel from towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747630
CN audience liked the JPs way more than HoloCN chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747630
China is an absolutely massive market to generate an audience from and is a pretty poor option for making a direct comparison, plus it's not like HoloCN itself was any kind of massive success.

[Anonymous No.]

>Council 3D broke 40k
Huh, nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747630
Zhang's lust for anything Japanese is pretty well known anon. That's not the case with gooks who, like pajeets, have pretty robust entertainment industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747333
...Yes? We always called Nijinumbers bullshit and fake, because that's obvious. They grow in weird patterns and it has no relation to their actual content, their CCV is also weird but for the most part it isn't getting higher like you'd think their subs would indicate

Vox drops to fucking 2k CCV outside of CN timezone

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747720
My point is they won't outright hate it. Come on it is already 4 generations and almost 100 years since WW2 everyone should forget that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745193
She didn't event specify the time and is likely to go above 2 hours. It's not going to overlap with Towa, Towa is doing it on 8pm jst while Subaru might go for primetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747269
anon the whole reason why "cover wins by doing nothing" is a thing is because they don't rush into everything and go for assured profits over high risk high reward gambles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746331
yet no 1m vod views

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746516
topkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747817
>absolutely massive market
For chinese companies. Do your research.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745193
REDDIT DUCK HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747817
>>28747955

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747955
And companies that they allow to operate in Chinese markets, like Nijisanji and (previously) Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747853
>their CCV is also weird but for the most part it isn't getting higher like you'd think their subs would indicate
This has never been a thing. Even Kobo's CCV rn is the same as she was 200-300k subs ago. CCV to subcount correlation has always been a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748002
>2016
This has not been true for a decade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746516
jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747484
>4. Luca(1,124,959)

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747868
Did you forget all those "this is for Pearl Harbor" comments made by americans during the 2011 tsunami? It never ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748061
shut up and eat your bat soup zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746978
Pretty sure ridonculous and voltaction are both still on 1.0. I don't know if they have any particular reason that has been explained in the past but I imagine its cheap, quick and easy to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747888
Subaru's frame is already set up for 8pm. I still think that even with a ShubaMarine duo, ERROR isn't exactly a buff and the debut game buff wore out with Mikomet, and since this is Sasaki's 2nd Koshien she's not going to be particularly strong either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747126
should have picked something that wasn’t a racist slur, holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747888
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
luca is not a holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747522
>Near 20% of South Korea's total population
I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
Might as well add Chima's 17 mil on there if you're going to start shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748121
>7/23
A-chan plays HoloError?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747057
>>28747188
Megalia.

[Anonymous No.]

>Bae, Zeta and Kiara akasupas mostly in Korean Won
>Holo merch in Korea sells out within 2 hours
>a good percent of HoloEN chat is in Korean
>this cafe collab getting positive reception
....how is this not a sign?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748111
But if I respond to this with nijiseethe it's suddenly not okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748018
Partnerships. You don't just open shop in China, even if it looks like that on the outside. The chinese are taking the majority of the profit and preventing foreign companies from moving their earnings out of the country. Money made in China stays in China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747868
Korea still loses their minds over the whole comfort women thing and the fact that Japan is infamous for completely brushing off or rejecting pretty much every single human rights violation they committed during WWII to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745190
Of all the things that happened the only things that are true was
>indo anons were trying to figure out how to enable SC to throw money at Kobo via YouTube
>anon was too retarded and tried ti prove very publicly that botting was possible to do and YouTube wouldn't detect it
everything else is speculation or outright lies, as you would expect of the Lie:Verse...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748240
At least there's a korean in Holostars EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747080
Well yes, that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
It's amazing that Luca can get such amazing numbers on his songs but fail to even stand up to Kiara on CCV or VoD views, or any other metric that matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748061
it's worse now
look at the switch and bait they pulled on tesla to prop up nio

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748061
A company on the ASX had 2 chinese on their BOD who faked numbers and sold off thier shares before they were caught and forced to resigned. 3 years later it's still trying to recover at least some of the money from the con artists.
If you ain't chinese owned, good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748188
>5. Luca(1,124,959)

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Never trust Nijiliars

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748315
A KR-TW mix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748272
Okay? I'm not sure where I said otherwise nor how this tangent has anything to do with what we were talking about with the potential Korean vtuber market.

[Anonymous No.]

holo kr board
https://arca.live/b/holopro

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747434
I'm not sure if the Japanese factor is necessarily an issue. I think it mostly depends on how COVER approaches the idea of a KR branch. If they poached someone like Miori, who on top of already having some KR viewers, is also Baelz friend (who is popular in KR) and found some equally good hires (which there's plenty of former/failed idols and streamers to choose from) then I can see that working out well.

[Anonymous No.]

>The posts deleting stopped the moment someone mentioned 4chanX
Wow, they really had no idea of it, didn't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748387
Oh, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748184
>20% of UK population live within 50 km of London and 33% within 100 km
This is for any capital in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748240
No love for HoloJP from KR? I rarely heard about any KR fans crave for JP girls like how they latch on to ID/EN members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748490
What did you expect of retarded newfags trying to make a power play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748502
Sorry if I sounded agitated, anon. Make up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748391
>open link
>first thing I see are niggas analyzing Ina's menstrual cycle
what the fuck actually?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748490
No its probably a new meido who got called away or got bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748523
100km in the UK is more than enough for a cultural gap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748391
What the fuck even is this place

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748345
OK first of all, music growth doesn't have direct correlation with CCV/VODs. Suisei and Mori aren't more popular than Pekora and Aqua.
Secondly, Luca definitely beats Kiara in CCV and general VODs. You can look at their average and median. Kiara only beats Shu and Ike in Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28747630
Poor choice of subject to use as an argument.

HoloCN could only ever exist the way that it did because the Chinese do not let anyone in on their market without them getting their hands on your shit first. More over HoloCN wasn't even that well received by its own market in spite of having the home field advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748636
You think the land mass of SK is any bigger than UK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748490
It's fucking baffling how anyone spent any time in this site without knowing 4chanX, let alone somehow becoming a janny. I refuse to believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748381
anooooooo noooooo
noor is deleting posts nooooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748654
You are wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748240
>the big holoen kr clipper will be a guest at pop-con

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748595
anon remember the time we numberfagged Bae's piss times?

[Anonymous No.]

https://kominfu.com/
Are we going to see the impact for ID in 2.5 hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748490
Wait, I'm on mobile so I can't see shit, what kind of posts did he delete anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748345
>>28744136

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748787
He deleted a reply chain talking about Vox's subs being botted

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748391
here's another one:
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/lists?id=kizunaai&exception_mode=recommend

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't he just delete most of the posts so that we can use this thread for much longer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748748
Outdated data.
>>28744136
It's not even a controversial thing to say Luca has higher ceilings than Kiara does anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
not an holo also viewfarmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748842
The ones that mentioned that his sub growth is linear with no fluctuations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748921
Stay strong koreabro...

[Anonymous No.]

So Hololive dominates US, KR and ID while Nijisanji dominates TW, CH, HK, ES, JP and CAN.
Jesus, how did Nijisanji become so powerful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748947
why would you want to stay longer in this prison your number brain has put you into

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748532
There's some members who have some korean fans like Towa but I can't think of any with a particularly noteworthy size

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748523
Nah, DC has a relatively low population for a capital

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748842
Oh, wow. I just went to archive and he's been deleting superficial shit. What a fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749069
Numbers are beautiful. I dream of a day where Pekora has 100kccv floor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042
Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.

Never trust Nijiliars

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748613
Oh, nevermind, they started deleting again, even knowing it doesn't do shit. Going full retard, is I think how the saying goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042
baffling post
also >jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749119
I thought your capital is the entire commiefornia.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to use https://www.4channel.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748965
Luca's ceilings are bullshit though? Open your fucking eyes and actually look at his graphs lol

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncz6yx5frEM
Towa's numbers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749324
>feedback page still using recaptcha
Retarded hiroshimoot please change back everything to recaptcha it's way easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749392
Piece of shit duck ruining Twappi's gold chances

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749324
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749392
Towa will be fine. I think she would have more trouble against Gwelu but Sasaki pt.2 isnt as strong. For outfit reveals people usually will keep one tabbed out until the actual reveal which is when the peak is anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749324
Did the janny seriously just try to delete the feedback page? That has to be a fucking justification for having his position revoked

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749377
Z's affect peaks so you can compare true CCV averages for more fairness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042

[Anonymous No.]

impressive display maid
in other news, despite graduation buff Kaela is looking to pass Sana before Sana graduates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749119
True, most people live in the counties that are near DC like Loudan and Fairfax and commute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749567
Gwelu is tomorrow and there is a possibility that Sasaki can get a Ib situation where it will be a close match and will go to extra innings

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745047
They used up their solo debut card on Salome already

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749567
twap..

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749377
holy shit i just checked his graphs for this month and majority have a raid/z/random spike peaks, i wonder what his actual median is

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749662
Kinda sad that Sana will graduate with more Twitter followers than subs. She never overcame the sub purge pre-debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749254
Told ya he just got called away

[Anonymous No.]

Serious, who in the fuck created those Magni memes? Don't you have anything else to waste the effort on?
The memes are not even spreading anywhere else but here, stop forcing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
get magged on

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748787
My ritualpost...

[Anonymous No.]

This janny is incredible retarded, I cna't believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
Lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749686
That means Gwelu is on the same day as Matsuri's birthday live right?
If so, it'll probably be her first 50k+ stream regardless, but I think a Gwelu 3D debut is going to get 90-100k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749878
New janny please understand
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the luxiem newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749685
Even then, NoVA isn't a huge metropolis like New York or LA. USA just has it different because the rednecks wanted the capital closer to the south so they put it in the middle of fucking nowhere to appease them (at the time).

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748532
There is a minor fanbase for HoloJP in KR, but they basically view EN fans like 4chan views Reddit and consider them an embarrassment. Also between JP and EN, the HoloJP fanbase in Korea have by far the crazier fans. Nakirigumis and former Rushia fans are just a few examples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749324
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>nejizhangji abandons id
>holoid continues to grow
>negizhangji abandons kr
>aniplus kr collabs with hololive
Dabbing on your losses lemao

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749796
She won in the end, despite his stream being 3 or 4 times as long, hers has more views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749796
Sasaki isnt the king and i watched that kuzuha run live, the god run was real
Also that time towa had a fucking haachama meme review overlapping her too so i think she’ll still be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749392
60k stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042
>Taiwan
>Japan
>not dominated by Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749615
It is, yes. And I suggest just go and use the feedback rather than risk another 'complain about 4chan' or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750084
not with subaru overlapping her

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
you mag bro

[Anonymous No.]

>Holodox at the catalog stays up
>anything that shits on Hololive stays up
>i get warned for saying Nijinigger in /#/
what's going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
>Posting on one of the most retarded site ever.
>Ask why anons don't have anything better to do with their time
Not gonna mag it

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750084
Kanata had 60k for her reveal and she was up against 39k of overlap. I’d say 55k for towa in this situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750065
>Also that time towa had a fucking haachama meme review overlapping her too so i think she’ll still be fine.
Fuck I remember this. God damn it chammers. She made an apology tweet about it afterwards too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750143
Nijijanny

[Anonymous No.]

beware, there's a storm in the area, don't risk the 8-shaped drops

>>28750116
It's probably gonna get moved, they can't be that retarded. Can they?

[Anonymous No.]

What's with the deleted posts? Is a janny camping here?

[Anonymous No.]

Just report this power tripping maid https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

neck yourselves numbershitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750243
Its an official stream so probably won’t be moved
I dont think it will matter though

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750143
Anon this janny can't even be bother to delete off topic /pol/shit even when he's deleting every post shitting on nijisanji in the thread, I don't think it's any mystery what his actual goal is

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750298
you first
also what's your oshi's median

[Anonymous No.]

i cant believe the meidos were infiltrated by a literal zhang, its been a good run boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>28743846
kek

[Anonymous No.]

And I thought this godforsaken site couldn't get any worse. A goddamn Luxiemnewfag got approved as a janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750243
It's an official stream so no, cover just fucked up with the schedule management
Then again pekora shifted her official stream so who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745440
It's hilarious, Towa, being Towa, tells everyone they can stream over her. Normally you'd take this as a courtesy and don't overlap because everyone doesn't, but then almost every Towa event someone overlaps her yet she delays or cancels her streams that overlap others or goes member only if she can't do that like during tournaments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750110
Guess they know they're on borrowed time, so now they're just on a deleting spree as a last hurrah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750191
Classic chammers

[Anonymous No.]

>>28743882
what's this

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748224
nah it's yagoo himself streaming it

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750411
Don't forget to report this maid here https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750489
Done

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750398
The funny thing is this is the second time subaru will be overlapping a towa event

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube culling, even for indies. What would the real number even look like with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745193
It's an offcollab too. Lol.
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1549980701813968896

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750411
I wonder if, in its last minutes, the creature understands why "pissing in an ocean of piss" is an apt descriptor for how everyone that interacts with it ends.

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO JANNIES DON'T LOOK
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[Anonymous No.]

>>28748077
Who is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750570
jesas wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750552
>culling
both a frame being up before the stream and viewer churn from her karaoke farmed subs feeling bad for her explain this

[Anonymous No.]

LOL Ayame's subcount updated and she got 10k this month. Her last stream was June 13th.
Anyone seen her in other collabs this month?

[Anonymous No.]

The new OPM chapter sets up a very nice # meme which I can't edit currently at work

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749567
it's not fine
if it is only Subaru then yes nobody will gives too much shit she'll be 10k anyway
the problem is she drags Marine along and now doing off-collab to boosts her own number
which will seriously hurt Towa's number just by having Marine on the background

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750710
https://holodex.net/channel/UC7fk0CB07ly8oSl0aqKkqFg/collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749042
Speaking of CN, how's the condition on CN vtuber market nowdays? from what i gather from the CN thread days ago is one Niji singer hard carried entire Niji CN company with her 3M followers while the one that actually owns over there is an virtual idol group, are there anything that's noteable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750867
>hologra, 3d, 3d, 3d, 3d, hologra

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750867
Guess not lol. 10k subs for literally no presence for a month is pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750143
>>28750318
I agree with this, anon.
>>28750411

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750838
Its a costume reveal the peak is always at the first reveal and it always causes everyone to tab in from whatever else they were doing, including other streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750570
Marine's been talking about having an offcollab with subaru for awhile so I guess this is the only time they can git it in

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750933
>literally no presence
That's not true, though. She has presence, quite a bot of it, even. She just doesn't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

bros wtf, why did my graphic got deleted, wtf is happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751058
IIRC Pikamee Watame got kinda wrecked anyways and only got 35k.
Anecdotally speaking, costume reveals have gotten kinda boring after we've seen like 15+ now. There needs to be a new meta outside of just reviewing fan guesses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750789
Idk why whatever fags they hired hate uoh so much. I'd take the pedos over the SEA shitposters

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745307
Cover doesn't care about this thread daily gold anon, sorry to burst your bubble

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751121
Chinkmeido

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
Well uhh.... at very least doing some drawing reps is better than seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751121
New Power tripping janny please understand

[Anonymous No.]

The chink post got DELETED LMAO
Nijizhangji? Nijizhangji

[Anonymous No.]

Imma fly to China and strangle Xi with my own hands if this shit meido don't get his ass together by primetime
See you guys later

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751192
but... most influential thread....

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751169
Pikamee watame got leaked early and watame has a low ceiling
Kanata did an announcement to 16k and peaked at 60k
Towa has a higher ceiling (though lower floor) than kanata

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751190
It's impressive how /vt/ manages to become both the most over moderated board on the site, and also the most undermoderated at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

neck yourself chink trannie meido

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751401
Hired a nijijanny monitoring # thread 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>NijiEN pays Youtube to shill themselves.
>While HoloEN/ID gets it for free

[Anonymous No.]

Just go to /mag/, we will welcome you. At least we're there to have fun with the boys, not shitting on anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751192
Sshhh anon, you are ruining our fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28750298
Remember bros, this is totally fine, but if you call nijifags liars you get deleted

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751475
MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG AMOGUS MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG MAG

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751474
Did they just use Hololive to advertise their shit? I mean thanks for advertising Holo I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751401
CCV races are completely fucking meaningless. Knowing who has the highest daily CCV, even the monthly highest CCV, doesn't hold any purpose

Watch hours is potentially meaningful, in the sense that it's basically a measure of how much you streamed to how many people which translates to revenue from streaming theoretically, but that is not as significant as revenue from merchandise and sponsorships which are the greatest source of income for Vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751474
once again yagoo wins by doing nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751549
Some cafes in TW plays Hololive music 24/7 to attract customers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura does 3 hour role play SC reading session with inside baseball

So apparently she is just too pussy to say no despite being literal number 1, so she is doing a bunch of sponsorships some of which get canceled and doesn't have time to stream. She has also been ass blasting management to help her original bday plans happen still.

[Anonymous No.]

i vote to ban /#/ from this board, a special request

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751561
nip numberfagging websites also do the horse race tho, except they include twitch and they do the cutoff differently

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751058
some numbers will still get lost even people multi-tab
they can still see the outfit but if they're not active on Towa's window they won't count
and the main thing is Subaru is an asshole for overlapping 2 events in a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751549
It's just an animation channel, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751631
>>28751549
its the name of the channel they mainly do gura animations they're also likely a HER fag https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUFODIiEgEQXvB0yqgcIfTQ/videos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751631
Well that I would expect since Hololive is TW's national religion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751669
wait, what other event did shuba overlap? can't recall

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749822
neck yourself number subhuman

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751593
And that's why he will lose to Riku since he spent actual investment money on getting the best talents.
NijiEN6 is shaping up to be another miracle gen while Luxiem is preparing for 3D debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751401
Only for rtribalfag anon
And sadly Hololive don't have a lot of those

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751732
except riku is losing

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, but what is the over under on Cover/Anycolor having stealth marketing budgets for shilling/spreading propaganda/suppressing information on the internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751561
Horse race is very fun.
Long term analytics are appreciated, but they are boring.
I get paid to work with numbers, why should I do it for free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751719
holox 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751632
I'm late to the member stream, is she sick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751656
Insignificant. It's literally just a byproduct of autism, for the sake of autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748121
I just noticed. Luna has her outfit reveal on the 23rd at 20jst right? The holoerror stream is scheduled to start at 21 so they scheduled it right for Luna but just fuck Towa's shit up with the shuba hey?

[Anonymous No.]

reminder

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is up with Mori's music views? The new song is doing even worse than Holy Shitto

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751632
>Guys I've just been so busy doing... stuff. Ya know, oh it's not stuff you can see or that you'll ever see since it keeps getting cancelled for some reason. But I totally really want to stream more. If only I wasn't so busy doing nothing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751851
Some mild sniffles but i think she is just tired from 3 hours of sc reading. Also apparently Fauna is her main squeeze and they will be ivory tower idol fags together away from the males.

[Anonymous No.]

Rumao even Magni memes in /mag/ got deleted by Jannies now

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751440
>>28751532
Don't forget to use this when they are abusing their powers
https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751896
Damn, I feel old. Do you have the other pic where Nijisanji removed their "We are #1" pic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751802
oh you're right she did

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751789
0 for cover
Hundreds of thousands from Anycolor which includes the farms

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751632
You're just making shit up about cancelled sponsorships. She cited the original bd plan being the reason for the no streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751932
>t. grey chumpedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751732
Nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751632
>>28751932
i don't remember this

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751636
Do it pussy ass faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751974

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751956
It's actually an assblasted nijifag then? Wow, it's almost as if they're outright cover antis

[Anonymous No.]

are you ready for the new gold standard /#/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28745456
Please search "aespa"

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751956
no fun…

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751561
The one meaning they have is in 5chan and places like that, they are huge number fags and antis like to use numbers to attack the chuubas. So technically it matters to them. Anti's can do damage to their reputation and mentality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28749662
Mikobox too strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>28748345
Luxiem in general gets more views on their songs than seems typical (especially considering the subpar singing ability of most of them), I'm guessing because much of their fanbase is composed of the same sort of women that loop kpop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751986
So she's gonna make it happen for next birthday or for other purpose like the anniversary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751058
That'd be fine normally but with how fucked youtube verification is we have no idea how well the tab in will get counted

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752009
God I hate the nijimeido so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752039
kek, thank you, anon.
Tagging for archive purpose:
Nijisanji removed their number one homepage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751986
she did mention cancelled stuff or rather "stuff that didn't work out", but not sponsorships specifcially

[Anonymous No.]

C'mon, Magni is harmless and he is not threatening NijiEN. Let /mag/ have some fun, why the fuck does the janny have to be retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752116
she said we'll see soon so she might just repurpose it as a regular stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751561
i don't know why you fags like to pretend that winning the ccv race is meaningless, do you think the general audience doesn't see that shit? tourists are attracted to the big number, if you win in the big number race, you get more people

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752173
I think all the cool people fucked off from staff awhile ago so moderation is just feces site wide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752173
anon if you're talking about the other magni thread I'm pretty sure it's deleted because it's a dupe

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752040
why does he/she/it hate uohhh threads too

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751890
That is Towa’s shill day and Towa will fight management if they try to fuck with Luna’s big day. She has a long track record of doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone should screencap this shit, use it as yet another example of Nijifags abusing their power over others

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752176
Still feels like a bummer

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752204
As if that matters in the long run, Anycolor had 200k last year on Koshien yet no one of those tourists stuck around. Salome was the recent star of the show, only to get sub 10k for a premier on raw danger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752204
So where did salami's "people" go
Since numbers begets numbers
She should be a 100k median streamer even today

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752173
Report the janny if he's powertripping
https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751851
She's had sniffled infrequently since the beginning. growing more frequent by the end since she's all spent trying to talk without pushing air through her nose. Yea she's kind of sick. But maybe "under the weather" is more appropriate? I don't know, I'm an indog

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752204
Yeah bro, Nijisanji got 150k for koshien last year, and they went right back to being sub 10k right afterwards. big numbers feel great but they don't actually do anything unless you can sustain it

[Anonymous No.]

>>28746898
Of all the Asian countries, Korea has the most people who wear their hair and clothes the same way.
The peer pressure is much stronger than in other Asian countries. It has a social culture that does not respect the individual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752356
>ID is stronger than EN


OH NO NO NO NO NO NO


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752284
Alphabet people, most likely. They tend to be the ones that are the most vocal anti-loli in any community. They are also the most likely to be actual groomers and sex offenders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28751940
nah her sniffles have been there from the start, I think she's just not feeling great

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752040
Just report that nijinigger janny here
https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752339
koshien is bigger this year
>>28752346
she had 90k+ streams for 2 weeks almost entirely based on people seeing the big number, that's money
>>28752416
koshien is bigger this year

[Anonymous No.]

So how does Hololive manage to convert tourists into core fans while Nijisanji can't do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752452
>le watch hours
every time
not that Kobo isn't actually stronger than anyone but Gura in every metric, but still

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
no box

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752484
Even worse, it's a chink alphabet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752404
Does she have a weak constitution in general or something? Or a condition? She seems to get sick rather frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
Its really easy to get lost in the hololive ecosystem on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
Nijisanji doesn't gave real tourists, it's just bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752570
Stop malding about watch hours and ask gura to stop being lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
There just aren't that many people willing to put up with bussy and bottom jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752484
>Alphabet people
Just stop buying LGTVHD

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
By being actually entertaining

Also, you can report the jannies here for powertripping
https://www.4chan.org/feedback

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752635
>malding
disgusting, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752596
She's got a weak constitution, she's got low blood pressure or something, she's mentioned fainting when standing up too quickly. She's also generally prone to fainting. Not to mention she doesn't really take care of herself.

[Anonymous No.]

Can NijiEN6 improve Niji's YT clipping presence? I feel like they might be able to increase more clips due to the sheer number of members

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752716
seethe

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously, judging by the number of clips on youtube and their views, Nijisanji has fucking zero casual audience. Even during Koshien month, the number of clip views hasn't increased at all, in some days it decreases while holos increase, it makes no sense for a community with heavy tourism as is so often stated.

Unless you think that NijiTourists don't even watch clips, there's no way Nijisanji has a massive audience of casuals who don't watch streams but show up for events which hololive lacks

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752042
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>28752552
>>28752576
It has nothing to do with not having a box. They're just not talented or charismatic enough to make a fan out of you.

>having raw talent will get people to follow you avidly in the hopes that you will make it and that will give them bragging rights of seeing you make it
>having great charisma inspires people to follow you because they would like to know more and kill the bugs for what they did in Buenos Aires

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>>28752775
roru roru rumao

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>>28752775
if they can make more than one type of joke, yes

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>>28752775
rumao

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>>28752299
I know, I'm just annoyed. Towa getting overlapped by her maruyama co-stars doing an off collab playing a horror game and they're both massive cowards? Not only will it fuck numbers up, I want to watch both lol

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>>28752775
anon, having the sheer amount of numbers is precisely why the clips don't propagate well in the algo, nobody really gives a shit about random niji #24 and even nijifags encourage you not to give a shit about every single niji out there

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>>28752650
But I have a Samsung UHD 4K TV, anon.

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>>28752775
Ask riku if he can pay the clippers more.

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> I-I'M... I'M GONNA DELEEEEEETEEEEEEE

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>>28752814
>Partnered with Sony Music Japan which pours a few million botted views into its shit pop songs all the time

it's a mystery.

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>>28752718
Ah, I see. I don't really watch her so I was curious since a lot of people give her shit for not streaming. It makes more sense now. Thanks.

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>>28752775
Lol nope, nijien has at least one consistent clipper while holoen has at least 10 not counting the exclusive clippers and sometimes sushi joining in

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>>28752814
How can you have a sense of community with 200+ chubas?

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>>28752356
Kaela is gonna hit 200 stream hours this month, isn't she

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>>28752775
Unfortunately for you, intern-kun, that's not how it works. Having too many people come out in a relatively short period of time makes it harder for others to follow and will be overwhelmed. What ends up happening is that people will follow maybe one or two and maybe give up on the rest if they simply don't give up entirely.

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>>28745301
No, its likely going to do much better instead.

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>>28753019
Well I don't know if that's 100% the reason for her not streaming that much. It definitely is not for this recent bout, she's just unironically really busy. Otherwise she's just not a stream monster but she's middling in terms of stream hours within Hololive, especially when you add members only streams.

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>>28753106
I think short term what they did with open VC culture and constant collabs was good but long term it's not sustainable.
Not because the talents can keep up, but because fans can't keep up and all the inside jokes keep piling up.

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My wife Nui will be on today's tally!

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Seriously I just checked the archive, since sunday the number of clipviews for Holos has only gone down, but by comparison they still have TRIPLE the number of clip views because NijiClips have also dropped by 2 million views, more than hololive lost over the same time period. It's fucking baffling, how can there be no impact on clip views from Koshien streams?

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>>28745181
and yet noctyx is now doing worse than luxiem

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>>28745463
Most aren't shitters, most are above 1k at the very least.
JP ofc has more because it has much more larger streamers than EN has.

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>>28753266
it's finally happening...
the hobby is dying...

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At this rate NijiEN will catch up to HolJP amount of members by halfway 2023

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>>28750765
Now that has great shitedit potential.

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>>28744186
Most people don't care about it and the Live2D works. thats the reason

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So the only special thing today is Towa's Outfit right?

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>>28753234
yeah, this was fine when there was just six people, but now there's going to twenty six people and if they all call into each other streams like they do now people are just going to get confused

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>>28753401
Koshien

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>Risu didn't overlap the towa outfit stream
It's fucking over, the treerat didn't see good numbers.

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>>28753266
isn't school starting up again?

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>>28746226
the irony when you fags were unironically calling salome bots and that shit
but yes nijien is a trash theread

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>>28753461
it's... july

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>>28753461
That should lead to downturn of CCV for streams but increase of clip views as people just look at the highlights. But people aren't doing that

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>>28753457
Should I

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>>28752694
why do they keep hiring these powetripping faggots

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>>28753478
Salome was botted and still IS botted. It's not a fucking cope, we just have fucking eyes

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Holy shit, the main thing about Nijisanji is watching the people you like, you don't have to watch all of them. That's why NIjisanji can have many members.
Stop bringing that shitty Holo view to Nijisanji.

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>>28753266
No goomba stream, das why

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>>28753548
Kaela no, you can't fathom the power of treerat.

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>>28753618
>That's why NIjisanji can have many members
You mean why they don't give merch to those who don't preform well? Yeah, what a great system, don't try and spin that shit as some kind of good thing

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>>28753478
Because Salome's performance is inexplicable. Nobody, ever, has managed to maintain debut numbers for an entire week. Not Gura, not Luxiem, not Kobo, no one. Yet Salome inexplicably manages to be the sole vtuber ever to do that, and as they say extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary explanations.
Meanwhile you have the retards at NijiEN claiming that Kobo is artificially boosted by /#/ because they don't want to accept that Kobo beat Vox

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>>28753618
>Nijisanji is watching the people you like
Ahh yes, competition WITHIN the company

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>>28753453
Ah, I missed sasaki in the schedule. Yea that has potential. Now the question is if she increases on her previous number or goes down.
It has been pretty even with that for the other koshien livers, about half had worse numbers on their second stream and the other better.

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>>28753618
Isn’t this one of those fabled Nijicoep?

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>>28753293
As far as I recall, more than half of NijiJP's roster is below their branch average, with more than a third below the NijiEN average. That's what I am referring to by shitters. Their top is so absurdly stacked that they make up for the failings of the bottom, especially since their top streamers tend to be full time streamers, while the lower end ones seem to be less so. This allows the mid tiers to move about more freely to boost the numbers as needed.

You don't have this dynamic at all on NijiEN where, if you aren't a top streamer with a CCV above 6k average, you're a power gap below 4k CCV where like two thirds of the group is hardstuck at.

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>>28753618
>you don't have to watch all of them
Yeah, that's why they have so many 2 and 3views. They keep pushing out new ones all the time and leaving the others in the dust. Great business model.

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>>28753618
>Holy shit, the main thing about Nijisanji is watching the people you like
So more than 80% of Niji is disliked?

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>>28753744
Was about to say the same, they now coping for having too many members rumao

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>>28753618
Nijisanji JP, maybe
Not NijisanjiEN with their desperate attempts to go "Nijisanji is a family" and "Chemistry" and frequent collabs and open vc and all that

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>>28753027
You have to be retarded to believe in this. Just looking at the clippers on the channel of each NijiEN member already shows they have more than 30 clippers with many dedicated to only one

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>>28753741
Nijisanji will have koshien everyday until the main event.

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>>28753234
>>28753441
Yeah, that is what I meant to say.

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>>28753559
anon, I can tell you're new here, so let me teach you about the actual rules of 4chan
1) There are no rules
2) There are no rules for the mods either so good luck
modern 4chan may have been sanitized a little but those are the only actual rules

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>>28753106
Welcome to Nijisanji anon. If they wanted that, they wouldn't have many members released to cater to different niches
>>28753040
They have located fanbases with most of those watching vtubers of one branch while a smaller amount are hako oshi and pick vtubers from all branches.

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>>28753829
They have the possibility to have yes, but not guaranteed to happen. We've already seen multiple days with 2 koshien streams and 1 day with 3.
When's the main event any way, First or second weekend of august?

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>>28753618
Classic nijicope. I will counter this with another nijicope

> #42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)</span>

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>>28753815
huh, that actually brings up a good point. It kinda feels like what the nijiEN talents want, a hololive model where everyone is a family and frequent collabs are the norm, is butting up headfirst against nijisanji's management strategy of giving everyone a vtuber that appeals to their tastes and letting the audience pick which to follow

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>>28753815
its till the same way, even more now with 26 members.

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Holo Korea Cafe collab reservations sold out for the day
https://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1549960586066141184

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>>28753618
>shitty Holo view to Nijisanji.
how is watching everyone shitty?

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>>28744186
This is the same fanbase that shat on a newbie for singing their UNITY song, and forever ending the possibility of casual covers of that song by post 2020 Niji livers.
They will scream "favoritism" from the mountaintops.

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>>28753946
>>28753815
This literally isn't hololive but Niji ID inspiration. Elira have said in her first months that she wanted the branch to be something like them, and those were already 19 members at the time.

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>>28753618
Everyone acknowledges what the Nijisanji model is; people just think it's a shit business model that doesn't really bring a net benefit to anyone but the top streams and itself.

Each Holo is its own brand and they are all treated as a quality product (even if they aren't so in the eyes of the audience). They're more like anime characters in that respect.

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>>28754004
Because its impossible to watch everyone even in hololive in the first place. Not even you fags do it.

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>>28745164
A Korean branch will face the same thing Myth did, they will all be doomposted predebut and if they don't have some absolute SUPERSTARs in the roster, and don't stand out from the Korean ethot crowd, they will have no takers there.

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>>28753618
>you dont have to watch everyone like in holo
is this a nijicope, who in the fuck can watch more than few streamers at once?

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>>28752552
Because you have to go back to Hololive for their type of content while niji's you can find it anywhere else.

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>>28753966
which is why the "You aren't meant to follow everyone" cope is a cope, because the ENs clearly expect you to follow everyone and that is being smacked down by running head first into nijisanji's accelerate strategy

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>>28754114
there's only like 8 people to really care about and 1 is already mainstream. But this is /vt/ and you haven't even tried watching streams

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>>28753972
>3 PM in Korea
What time do they close? I assume 5 PM? In which case that sounds pretty reasonable

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>>28753513
Some countries are way too autistic about education.

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>>28745047

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>>28754099
Then stop being obsessed over Nijisanji and accept what it is? Its been 5 years already, nothing will change
>benefit to anyone but the top streams and itself.
Kind of funny considering Raindrops, Nornis, Trinity and many units were formed with members that arent exactly very popular. Or how Levi was in Nijirock and other concerts since she got her 3D. Or Natsume releasing her own novel and getting a manga adaptation.
It is funny how amny of those examples aren't known, but not exactly unexpected from this thread.

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>>28753972
is this a one day event? if so, that must feel terrible

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>>28754114
see, the thing you aren't understanding is that there's a difference between "watching" everyone, and keeping track of everyone. You don't need to watch every stream to keep track of everyone, but Nijisanji is fast reaching the point where it's impossible to even keep track of everyone because there's just too much going on

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>>28745190
someone should show them the Mantra Hujan compilation with the AKs n shit

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>>28754243
>Raindrops, Nornis, Trinity
No wonder they're a flop.

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>>28754181
>watch more than few streamers at once?
I did yesterday

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>>28754243
What did they give to kr and id? They are part of niji family too you know

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>>28752356
>148 hours
what the heck

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>>28754189
Its not a cope when that's what you have to do when you have more than 10 streamers. You will have priorities on your favorite and the like. There's hako oshis out there for nijisanji subscribing to everyone in their branch but even those wont watch everyone, same as holo
>>28754203
If there's only 8 people to care about then you dont watch everyone retard. Hololive is only below nijisanji in size with almost 70 vtubers. No one is able to watch everyone except in events for a fake unity while 90% of the time they will miss a stream.
You only can realistic watch everyone if you maintain about 5 vtubers and that is impossible for an agency.

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I feel like Magni's meme game level is just as good as King

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>>28754324
>only 4 streams
Weak, anon. Weak.
Where's your motivation?

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>>28754248
No It's a continual thing. There are two open right now and they're planning on getting two more locations open next month.

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>>28754243
>Natsume releasing her own novel and getting a manga adaptation.
I'm curious if she got full money from that or Anycolor got some cut too

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>>28754408
I only watch multiview because they interact with each other and I don't want to miss the interaction. I don't watch multiple unrelated stream. Makes my brain hurt.

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>>28750570
https://youtu.be/Qup2loWBnQ4
Fuck yeah, I wonder if we'll get more kino shit like this.

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so guras member stream had a 10k~ VOD at the end (and still climbing), how plausible is it that 50% of her members (for the 20k estimate) found out about and could watch it with a 1day notice on the members only tab or have we been under estimating the member counts of the holo girls

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>>28745193
So I haven't seen any discussion on ERROR, how is it as a game? Is it even going to make back the money they put into it?

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>>28754243
>Then stop being obsessed over Nijisanji and accept what it is?
Don't shoot the messenger; I am just pointing out the reasoning behind what you see. I don't even care about Nijis beyond what I posted ITT and whatch if there nothing else I'd rather watch at the moment.

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>>28754243
You say that when the EX-Id folks can't even get proper birthday merch for their birthdays that their fans have to step in and do it for them

>>28754391
I love how nijifags find the idea that holofags actually support all of hololive is so unbelievable that they have to come up with copes like fake unity because of course all fanbases must be like nijifags who attack other nijimembers if they sing the wrong songs right?

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>>28754297
There's a mix of popular and not popular members
>>28754284
Why should anyone try to keep track with everyone? The Nijisanji model is to offer you streamers and you pick them, be it at their launch or after seeing others in collabs.
The only difference between each is holo fans wanting to support everyone while niji fans for the most part will watch who they like. Niji also has hako oshis, mainly per branch instead of the entire agency, but they arent as big.
Only thing that I need to keep track are about the ones I watch and maybe events of the branch I watch. Its also the same i do with vspo and hololive

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>>28754283
The national anthem one, right?
https://streamable.com/hukpo4

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>>28754534
It's probably already made back the money they put it, but as a game it's walking simulator jump scare thing so eh

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>>28754534
The game has just been released, what do you expect us to do, anon? See into the future?

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>>28754534
It's a flavor of the month jumpscare kusoge, except produced by Cover itself.

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>>28754603
>Why should anyone try to keep track with everyone?
and then you get confused why people might be put off when random niji #19 calls into Pomu's stream mid game and they start referencing some in joke that you have no idea about because you don't keep track of everyone.

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>>28754583
I'm obviously talking about JP and EN. KR and ID might as well be indies in that regard.
>>28754583
It is literally unbelievable. I am also a hololive fan, with the difference I use this method in both agencies where i just watch and sub to the ones I actually can watch. Im not going to sub to someone im only going to watch outfit reveal, 3D and whatever event. I can care about others but not to such point.

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>>28754622
Those are bots

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>>28754391
>>28754203 (me)
Apologies I should've been more specific, but I'm talking about the EN branches. I'm frankly scared to touch NijiJP.

>No one is able to watch everyone
Good take, but HoloEN doesn't stream as often as NijiEN so it's easier to catch up with them. NijiEN streams overlap each other all the time

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>>28753729
> Kobo is artificially boosted by /#/
that's some nice projection from Vox sisters, it was like that on the Enna's case

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>>28754534
I bought it, but I'm not good with horror games.
I thought I would be getting a softcore ASMR, but I was unpleasantly surprised by the jumpscares.
I dropped it after I got stuck in the classroom with the flower.

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>>28754709
I don't get confused because Im not autist to let something like this to affect my enjoyment. If I like someone, I'll sub to them, if not im not. If i like someone only enough for collabs, then its going to be like this.
The hololive unity isnt even real anyway because of hololive and stars being two separate fanbases, which is fine by me