/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Who did it better?

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>>28730980
I think the council models are cuter but you can’t make that fanart joke of the sweaty Ame inside smol Ame’s costume with them so I still prefer the myth models just because of that

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>>28730980
>en
>en again

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>>28730980
Sana. They actually emote and have each their own character.

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Smol Ame classic and soul. Council smol, terrible an unmarketable.

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I think walffie knows how to simplify the designs a bit better

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>>28730980
the Sana designs work better for 3d and has more personality in them. wish Myth could get them too.

Seafoamboi nailed the models.

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>>28730980
Looks like that ghost Pikachu

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>>28730980
>Who did it better?
Obsydia.

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>>28732603
Stupid fucking penguin

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who started the "low poly" fad
was it really holo

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>>28730980
NijiEN chibis >> Council > Smol Ame variants

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Walfie is quite literally not an artist and only contrarians and reactionary chuds will say his is better.

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>>28732777
>posting outside of your containment threads
I'm starting see nijihate as reasonable.

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>>28732416
Ilike the walfie original illustrations way more than the models, tho... nothing wrong with the 3D, just personal taste

I think for the 3D models I like council's more, but myth's are still very cute and wonky

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>Sana makes IRyS' mascot
>helps Fauna with her deer thing
>does all the council art
>massive fucking tower and mansion in minecraft that can be seen from everywhere now
>streamed with as many people as she could before she left to make things memorable
>kobo wrote a song about her
>designs council's little 3d things
I really feel like she wanted to give a middle finger to cover on the way out. People are always going to look at the things she left behind and wonder why cover couldn't just work things out with her instead of being mad a cripple can't stream as much as the whore rat.

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>>28732778
smol myth > beegsmol council
simple as

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>>28732960
>kobo wrote a song about her
GOD! don't make me remember that song, I already cried too much tonight

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>>28732960
Insulting Ironmouse is just as bad as the people downplaying Sana's injury, anon. /vt/ just can't use their brains, huh.

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>>28732960
Based.
Fuck cover. Long live CouncilRys

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>>28732756
Wafie, so yeah.

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I like councilrys more, but smol myth is pure soul

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I've never been a big fan of Walfie. His designs are a little too simple, like borderline South Park amount of effort. Sana's designs are adorable, really expressive and have a ton of charm.

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>>28733397
I didn't realize he was Walfas/the guy who made those touhou minis until a few months ago. Same way how VShojo was co-founded by that guy who uploaded some gachimuchi videos, it's interesting how some amusing random people had a big effect on in an industry years later

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>>28732756
in general low poly models have become a trend in a lot of recent games, and for animation shorts like Kanauru's, having silly low-poly models is good to make models and animations quickly

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obviously ame, council exists purely to show just how boring and soulless myth would have been without her

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>>28730980
The eyes ruin it. Other than that the designs are great, and look fine when using any alternate expression. But the default eyes are just terrible, soulless voids, not cute like the rest of the design. Clashes.

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>>28732960
Based

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>>28733679
Walfie was just doing some fanart in his own free time and people clinged to the cute chibi look, making them kind of Myth's unofficial chibi style

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I feel the Smol models have more soul, funnier and just charisma, where as Beegsmols have more expressions and uniqueness to them. i prefer Walfie's but i'm glad they didn't use smol designs as well, Sana gave Council their ouwn identity while being the same idea

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>>28733780

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>>28732960
Why do people still spread rrats like this when Sana has explicitly said it was her wish to graduate, and told everyone to support Hololive and all the girls?

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>>28732603
who?

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>>28734045
>implying this stream had its own identity
they literally just rehashed the myth anniversary stream note-for-note, even replicating the "ina cries" part with sana crying

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>>28732960
You take that last line back you absolute homosexual

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>>28730980
The 3D Walfie designs look terrible in comparison honestly. They're still cute, but in a scuffed kind of way.

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>>28734108
>told everyone to support Hololive and all the girls?
After recent events, if someone who graduates says this, I know its a lie.

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Might sound like a dick but don't care. Council would have been really shit if it wasn't for Saners graduation.

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>>28734271
Sana is not a good actor. She's an extremely genuine girl, who cried as she told us how much she loved everyone in Hololive.

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>>28732778
>everyone I don’t like is a chud
first person to use that word correctly

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>>28732603
soulless

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>>28734271
Ogey, Keksoncuck

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>>28734555
Actually he coupled it with reactionary so he probably knows what's up....but to be fair it's odd for a leftist to be cool with unpaid labour like that.

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>>28734108
Did you watch her announcement video?

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>>28735017
Yes, did you? Or her last stream where she explicitly tells you that she wanted to graduate? Not that it was unclear to begin with since she and multiple other holomem had already said that.

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>>28730980
Probably an unpopular opinion but I think that when it comes to smol/joke models the less detailed the better, it really gives that "silly comic strip character" vibe, furball Korone is another good example outside of smol Ame

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>>28732603
Nijikes just can't keep their shit to themselves.

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>>28732702
dummy head

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>>28733206
He meant ironmouse?

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>>28733206
Wrong rat

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>>28732138
exactly. but it is possible because someone did it first. really hard to think of a simplified version for 3d.

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>>28730980
>Who did it better: Amelia Watson or Amelia Watson
Gonna have to go with EN's shining star, Amelia Watson. Final answer.

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>>28741300
>>28743348
yes

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>>28732603
>Goes out his natural reserve
Yet you wonder why Pentomos are a endangered especies

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>>28744628
Yes, there are thousands of people who have done chibis before and I bet Sana as an artis has seen hundreds. I hope to God you didn't mean Walfie.

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>>28730980
>better
Neither. The art styles are symbolic, and sort of like a mirror reflecting each gen.

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Bamp

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Only this board can turn two incredibly soulful and special streams into tribal shitflinging.

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>>28732960
This makes no sense. She chose not to stream. She had no motivation to stream. She didn’t enjoy streaming. She did not know how to balance streaming and her art work. She realized she can’t continue like this and chooses to leave. This is all definitive and known by anyone who actually followed her streams before this last hurrah. Fuck off trying to make everyone else look bad because of your unfounded rrats.

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>>28755312
Everyone should shit on Walfie any chance they get. Why? Because he's a hack and his artstyle is shit.

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>>28745605
based
none of the other girls even fucking matter

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>>28730980
Personally, I feel like Walfie was always Myth's thing. It was born from the smol ame meme and was personal to them for that reason. Doing the same to council just-because wouldn't have the same impact.
For the same reason, Council getting models Sana designed at her final sendoff gives the designs the same kind of personal impact. It's going to be their thing from now on. Their way of remembering her. Myth being given models in this style would feel out of place for the same reason.
In short: I like both but feel that the context behind each design is critical to what makes them special to each group in EN. It's more than just aesthetics, it's the story they tell.

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mogged

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>>28732020
t. actual homosexual

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>>28756305
But how they will coalesce at VRC events

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>>28756400
where's my new outfit riku

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>>28756400
I honestly hate nijiniggers so much it's unreal. My oshi is the most creative, pioneering western vtuber out there and holds up hololive's entire english branch on her own, only to be endlessly compared to some purple chink moron who just laughs like a retard for hours just because they both play apex.

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>>28732960
>*person does thing*
>I feel like they hate Cover
Not projecting btw

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>>28732756
Technically Walfie, but those models aren't his making. Some ultra-brown nosers offered them to Ame after Walfies doodles became popular (which also gave rise to Smol ame which is now a HoloEN mascot, 100% free from Walfie's say, or compensaiton)

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>>28755509
Not his creations, Teacucks cannibalized his work and made it their own via "Walfie-esque" tag and handed them back to Ame as 100% OC Donut Steel

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>>28756871
wow, great phrasing considering that if ame and "teacucks" hadn't done any of that, literally none of your nijiniggers would be using simplified 3d models you fucking baboon

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>>28756964
I'd LMAO at you believing Ame invented Chibi models, or that Selen clearly stated she took inspiration from Nendoroids
But i feel like you're stuck in your narrative, so carry on

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>>28745898
NTA but when it comes to "first" in "we will make our own damn models in Hololive" it would be Myth.
Pretty sure no one in HoloJP or HoloID ever did something like that and I'm not sure any other corpo ever did.
So Ame was a trailblazer in that regard (and Kiara as well as it seems the April Fool's smol Live2D were her idea) but as a result their chibis are the least expressive when compared to Council or Niji.
They had the idea that others could improve upon.

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>>28757072
>Selen clearly stated she took inspiration from Nendoroids
Yeah, after Ame did it first and it became the most famous english vtuber group's most iconic stream. Definitely a real fucking trailblazer and not just coasting off of Ame like every other grifter in holoEN and nijiEN

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>>28732960
>instead of being mad a cripple can't stream as much as the whore rat.
/vt/ used to like Bae. What happened that changed the public opinion?

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>>28757299
she's always been mid
/vt/ only cares about high tier vtubers like ame

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>>28757092
Yes, yes. We all get that you really love Ame and Kiara and you think all that is good under the sun is made by them. We get that.

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>>28732020
spbp

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>>28756740
So Ame jewed Walfle? No wonder he defected to Nijis.
Never trust a libertarian.

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Nijis > Council > Myth

This is the objectively correct order for Chibi VR.

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Smol ame>council>smol myth>>>knock niji nendo

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>>28732702
go to class billy

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I'll be honest, they look all the same to me

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>>28730980
Sana smol is better because everything is better than the Walfie smol stuff, but I hope future EN gens avoid the whole smol thing completely.

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>>28759045
>but I hope future EN gens avoid the whole smol thing completely
Not gonna happen since Cover can't be bothered to give them 3D models.

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>>28759045
>avoid the whole smol thing completely
Hopefully after Japan opens up lol I feel the smol thing was a reaction to EN having no 3D. And after the 3 gens having chibi forms, the next ones woul be inclined to have ones

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>>28730980
I like Council's chibis better. They're more personalized and expressive without being too complex.

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>>28756400

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>>28732603
>>28732777
Watch as holobronies recoil the moment they are faced with quality.

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>>28756675
You should redirect this hate and become more productive.

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>>28730980
Ame's just leeching off of other people while Sana's actually doing it. no contest.

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>>28759649
Lmao, learn to eye-tracking properly first.

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>>28730980
Myth is arguably more marketable due to the simplicity of them and easier to do fan art of.
But the Council models are better on basically every other level. More little secrets, alt modes, range of expressions, unique custom features that match each character.

Also those NijiEN models are very well made, but I don’t like how the style of them just looks like kid versions of the trio.

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Sorry Nijibros, I don't think I can look at those models (and the ones Myth used before their actual 3D models) without thinking that it's some sort of weird $20 toy from Walmart

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>>28732960
If only she had given that many fucks when she started, there wouldn't be a need for a middle finger

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>No one's posted the actual best EN chibi model
You niggers never fail to disappoint
Abeelia and Halloween IRS are up there too

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>>28732960
Cope harder, you fucking faggot.

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>>28767487
Halloween council models are to this day unrivaled.

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>>28730980
Right obviously

Stop being a blind teamate

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>>28732702
Needs correction...

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>>28730980
Walfie style is cuter.

Don't like the Council models. Everytime I see those scribble eyes in anime, it usually means unhinged insanity.

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>>28730980
Walfas models are soulless.

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>>28730980
I don't see it as a "who did it better". Council one is a clear evolution on how to do these things from people who got over a year more of experience and expertise, so it's not a fair comparison.

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I really hope when they say smol merch is coming that they mean for both Council and Myth. I really want official Smol Ame merch.

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>>28759772
Sana literally ripped the idea off of ame, they needed her help for the stream, and even then they just straight up copied the mythiversary stream note for note. She even copied Ina's "crying on stage" moment near the end, so they could have le epic "wholesome" moment in their stream.
Basically, if you think anyone in holoEN or nijiEN isn't just hard grifting off of Ame's hard work/creativity/ideas and would actually matter without it, I have a bridge to sell you.

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>Soul
Myth > Council > Niji
>Sexy
Nijj > Council > Myth
>Struggle
Myth >= Niji > Council

"Soul" here is the contextual significance of these chibis their sponteneous emergence. Myth's 3D was an evolution of the viral fanart by Walfas and no one intended it to be their 3Ds. Council's 3D is tied to Sana's departure and leaving a legacy to HoloEN. Niji's 3D on the other hand were born with willful intent and it wasn't tied to any catalystic event.
"Sexy" is self-explainatory. The Niji ones are very well made and very cute. It wins out over Council's also well made chibis because whole they're also cute, you have to really try to find them sexy as-itself (it's sexiness is from Council's actions and their implications, not the models themselves). I'd fuck the 3D Petra honestly.
"Struggle" both Myth and Niji 3Ds were born because their respective companies throw their EN branch to the wolves and the talents themselves have to do everything. These are both personal projects initiated by Ame and Selen and fuck HoloSanji. While Council has their own struggle, they have a support structure handmedown from Myth, so all they do is build up what Ame has done.

I like all three and they all have their own charms. HoloID has their upcoming one too but so far it's just Reine. She levied the artstyle from some artist that frequently draws ID, but it's more memey than anything.
https://youtu.be/_G2ZMbHBTfE

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>>28778750
>While Council has their own struggle, they have a support structure handmedown from Myth, so all they do is build up what Ame has done
Literally all anyone in holoEN or nijiEN does is just grift off of Ame, they legitimately have never thought of or done anything original in their life.

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>teakeks
NOOOOOO STOP USING AME'S HARD WORK STRUGGLE ON YOUR OWN IT'S NOT FAIIR
>Ame
I want to help my branch

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Why does it always have to be a contest?

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>>28778750

they're all cute but they just get straight mogged by the holoween models, that's just facts.

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>>28779274
Because without it people won't be able to falseflag using pictures of eachother's oshis to aim for the happy dopamine hit they get from (You)s. That also includes numberfagging for further validation of their favorites, in order to try and make themselves feel good. It's all for self gratification - It's basically the virtual equivalent of being obsessed with a sports team.

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>>28779265
The point is that, Ame selflessly helps her branch constantly with creative ideas, but literally no other English vtuber does. Not her genmates, nobody in Council, nobody in nijiEN, they literally all just coast off of her.
20 or so corpo EN chuubas, yet literally only one of them actually creates any value. Imagine if JP was like this, they never would have caught on globally.

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>>28779763
sounds like cope because you watch some garbage whore who contributes nothing, ask me how I know your oshi is in council aka the grifter gen

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>>28779858
>Not her genmates, nobody in Council, nobody in nijiEN, they literally all just coast off of her.
Oh yeah. I totally believe you're a teamate. I bet you're a big fan of Ame and everything you say is totally not to stir shit.

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>>28779858
Ame is just a support and "idea guy" who comes up with ideas and does nothing substantial with them. Supports do not create value, sorry teacuck

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>>28780283
Did you even watch the ending of the recent council stream?
They literally admit that all of it was Ame's doing:
https://youtu.be/bFjuKhG2Hzc?t=4841

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>>28730980
I hate small Ame and I hate that it became such a meme that it's basically a character unto itself.

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>>28780404
>Supports do not create value
literally the biggest cope I've ever heard
being an EN vtuber fan with an oshi besides ame must be sad little existence, just having to be constantly reminded of how much of a selfish grifter whoever you like is by comparison

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>>28780498
"Project Assistance"

Also, watch streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOlXHezzRo&t=767s
and read tweets
https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1549925294638673922

t. teamate

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>>28780498
Yeah you're full of shit, teaammmate falseflagger. I know exactly what they said and it wasn't that. Go slit your wrists.

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>>28780853
>Ame being selfless and downplaying her role in the project
Who would have guessed?

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>>28780722
Ame would be irrelevant without the others. That's how I know she's a leech. Whereas her colleagues would still be successful without her silly little one-off ideas.

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>>28781111
nice job basically admitting to being a chumbud, retard

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>>28779274
This board is full of guys too faggy for sports so they use vtubers to fulfill the same purpose
This is the same as Messi vs. Ronaldo slapfights on /sp/

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>>28781311
sport fandom is as gay as it gets dude, why spend your time obsessing over "powerful athletes" when you can literally go out and get fucked in the ass for free?

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>>28759815
Sorry, but the way her eyes stay squinting for 70% of the clip along with her flailing arms just makes it look like she's got cum in her eyes and is trying to grab something to wipe it off with. Really doesn't seem like a good example of eye tracking, desu.

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>>28781495
Exhibit A

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>>28779132
> they legitimately have never thought of or done anything original in their life.
>Ministry
>Council's April fools

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>>28730980
Pic related is still the best

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>>28781563
>literally just recycling anime tropes
fuckin' peak creativity from council over here, move aside ame

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>>28781718
But ame is doing the same thing no?

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>>28755716
my girl

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>>28781557
t. wastes money on pay-per-view when what he really wants is tyrone's dick in his ass

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>>28781807
t.Magni

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>>28781778
Sure, but she didn't use femele>male as the selling point, instead she condensed every stream-related scuff imaginable into a 40 minutes stream.

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>>28781523
Anon, she did an air guitar.

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>>28730980
Right is better but not as memeable.

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>>28781998
>but she didn't use femele>male as the selling point
but she did though? that's the whole point of that stream.

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>>28782619
The scuffed model, scuffed audio, no audio, scuffed camera, scuffed cameraman, & scuffed karaoke are the point of that stream.

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>>28782889
Uh, i think that’s just show how unprepared she is for a stream anon. Of course you would still enjoy it because she’s your oshi.

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>>28782889
I'm glad you understand what sets Ame apart from all the knockoffs in council/niji, she uses scuff to make things kino while the bootlegs basically try overly hard to avoid scuff.

It's why these nijis in particular look completely soulless:
>>28756400
>>28732603

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>>28782889
>shit streamer with shit scuffed stream
>teacucks call it original and creative
Maximum cope

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>>28730980
Council

Walfie’s are cute and all, but I like the expresiveness of the council ones

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>>28782889
Teamate…

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>>28783044
>>28783119
I think you need to learn what April Fools Day is, anon. Her teams can create & rig a great low poly model for Gura in two hours.

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>>28783285
> Her teams can create & rig a great low poly model for Gura in two hours.
Any team can do this anon if you pay them enough.

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Myth is simple, but effective. Perfect for marketing and other uses.
Councirys are much more detailed and have more expressions. Better ones for 3D/VR.
Nijiniggers can suck my fat cock

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>>28782889
anon, why are you lying?

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>>28782889
>it's bad on purpose
This will always be the absolute worst excuse for in the world.

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>>28730980
The Sana models are sexualizable
the Walfie ones...not so much.

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>>28732756
The low polly "ps1 graphics style" has been a trend for a while now thanks to indie games

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>hey guys which HOLOLIVE chibis are better
>some faggot waltzes in and starts posting the niji models

thank god some retard didn't brag and say "ZENS SHITTY LIZARD IS THE BEST"

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>>28731726
Why wouldn't they be able to do the suit thing with the council's models?

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>>28730980
The council ones seem too generic and soulless

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>>28732960
Which is why I'm convinced she's joining VShojo JP in a few months

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>>28730980
Miko.

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>>28788529
overdesigned trash just like the nijinigger stuff
once again, only ame actually produces anything of worth

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>>28788688
Miko classic chibi anime style that been a thing since 80's, it's soulful.

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>>28734108
tatsucucks became paranoid after her oshi's betrayal

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>>28788893
Don't take it seriously, Anon. Just know that you're responding to a baiter.

>hqdefault.jpg
>"Uhhh q-quick... I've got to google the image to use for my falseflag post."

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>>28781013
What a retarded comment. A leech doesnt add anything and doesnt even try. Ame is one part of the machine called myth and one that buffs the others.

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>>28788529
Mikodanye is great but Smol Ame stole the show

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>>28732960
This is such a jump you should be at the Olympics

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>>28792780
I think what Ame does goes beyond "buffing the others", though. Like, they straight up copied the mythiversary stream for smol council debut basically play-for-play, with even her own genmates like gura just copying her formula for her 3d twister stream. Every time they do something "original", it's using Ame's work and pretty much every time Ame herself is involved.
If you consider what Ame does "buffing", I wouldn't want to work with you because clearly you'd let someone else hard carry the whole team and then turn around and claim "oh they're just buffing everyone else"

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>>28792817
mikodanye was tired or something, her appearances prior to this were lively but this whole event it was like the person inside was dead or dying of heatstroke

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The question >>28756675
>My oshi is the most creative, pioneering western vtuber out there
Coco grduated tho.

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Ame is not so much of a creative force so much as simply doing what management should be doing.

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>>28796430
interesting angle to push for a literal traitor who quit to be an live2d e-thot, that whole thing only reinforced that ame is and forever will be the true queen of /vt/