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28486758 No.28486758 [Reply] [Original]

>they're based off of videogame characters/roles
>non-fujobait designs
>they changed the channel name from Tempus (implying they're part of HoloEN) to Holostars English, re-inforcing the separation
>dissapointed females spamming catalogue with how "ugly" they are

Bros, I think they're unironically trying to appeal to us instead of the femoids. First major brotuber gen? I've never even considered watching a male vtuber before, but I might give these guys a try.

>> No.28486895

>>28486758
Nigga the only things that “ appeals” to us is a Menhera or Loli

>> No.28486981

>>28486758
I am almost certain Tempest will have shitty personalities. Nothing like Stars.

>> No.28487165
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28487165

>>28486758
You doubted me? NOW KNEEL.

>> No.28487258

>Denial
>Anger
(YOU ARE HERE) Bargaining
>Depression
>Acceptance

>> No.28487297

lmao

>> No.28487374
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28487374

>>28486758
>>non-fujobait designs

>> No.28487775

>>28486758
Where's the shota, anon?

>> No.28488079

>>28486758
The brotuber thing is a myth, people still want dude gens at like 1% the level that they want cute girl gens. It's just, the brotuber thing is necessary to even get to that 1%, you get like 0.01% giving a fuck if they're pure fujobaits.

>> No.28488258

>>28486758
>non-fujobait designs
Why do you go around telling such poor lies? Do you have no shame or are you delusional?

>> No.28488756

>>28487374
>>28488258
They aren't. Go put them side-to-side with Luxiem. Their clothes aren't faggy manwhore clothes and don't emphasize their height, none of them look particularly domineering. Their faces and eyes are also pretty fucking plain, which is the opposite of fujobait.
They just look like normal anime/jrpg characters. Hell, I literally just found this:
https://twitter.com/regisaltare/status/1548842529533046784

Does this look like fujobait to you?

>> No.28488852

>>28486758
If they really wanted to appeal to me they would have made one of them an ojisan

>> No.28488869

>>28488258
most of the fujos in twitter hate them anon

>> No.28488996

>>28488869
Just because they failed doesn't mean it wasn't their goal.

>> No.28489021

>>28488852
I'm holding out hope that the academic dude is that.

>> No.28489127

>>28488852
You never know. It's not like you can tell a hag just from their design.

>> No.28489431

>>28486758
>dissapointed females spamming catalogue with how "ugly" they are
Pretty sure that everyone, except for a few of mind-broken cucks and Cover employees, thinks that their designs suck

>> No.28489533

>>28488852
Hand man was into Kamen Rider back when Wizard was airing so he might be older.

>> No.28489656

>>28489533
>>28489127
>>28489021
I will probably tune into not-Alucard's debut for that reason, either way.

>> No.28489679

>>28486758
Stars general seems to be pretty confident in the PL's of 3/4 of them.

>> No.28489826

>>28486758
Roberu and Shien are brotuber. Not those fujobait

>> No.28489970

>>28486758
I'll tune in for Moonman and Handyman. Femanons can have boy band and yellow man.

>> No.28490340

>>28486758
give me an ace combat buddy and I will kneel

>> No.28490356

>>28486758
I mean probably they just didn't get the right artists or the right direction, but I'm certainly sure that they wanted it to be fujo

>> No.28490363

>>28490340
At most you'll get a project wingman buddy.

>> No.28490461

>>28490363
right
he can just play the update right as it comes out

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>>28486758
>I think they're unironically trying to appeal to us instead of the femoids
No. They're trying to appeal to late teens/early 20s zoomer audience.

>> No.28490853

>>28486758
>I've never even considered watching a male vtuber before, but I might give these guys a try.
Nah, mate. If their tweets are any indication of how they'll act as streamers, then I'll stay far away from them.

>> No.28491019

>>28490554
my rrats are too strong for you

>> No.28491028

>>28486895
speak for yourself, I'm only interested in hags and fags

>> No.28491889

>>28488756
Holy fucking cope

>> No.28492116

>>28488756
they are fujo/yume-bait designs, but they're just terribly executed so women don't like it.

>> No.28492731

>>28488756
yes

>> No.28492944
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28492944

>anything that isn't pic related is fujobait
Based. Glad to see this is where we're at

>> No.28492952

I'll only kneel if they're stuck in an isekai fantasy world separate from the rest of hololive and only stream with each other.

>> No.28493439

I won't watch them
go fuck yourself cover shill

>> No.28496805

>>28487165
inshayagoo

>> No.28496935

>>28490554
>zoomer audience
Potion Seller was uploaded 11 years ago.

>> No.28497086

>>28486758
mr hands guy looks promising
I bet he will have a breakdown during the debut or shortly after

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>>28496935
Zoomer audience.

>> No.28497154

>>28490554
>zoomers
>knowing about potion seller

>> No.28497316

>>28490554
zoomers dont know shit about potions

>> No.28497332

>>28486758
>non-fujobait designs

>> No.28497483

>>28486758
If they want to appeal to me they'd be designed as normal blokes, not this gay futuristic pseudo-fantasy trash

>> No.28497534

>>28486758
Paid Cover homoshill thread.

>> No.28497697

>>28486758
>I've never even considered watching a male vtuber before
Dude bros already exist in NijiEN and I'm more keen to actually see a babiniku in EN anywhere than a dudebro.

>> No.28497820

>>28497534
nijiseethe

>> No.28497920
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28497920

>>28486895
Or both

>> No.28497990

>>28490554
That tweet made me interested about this guy, maybe a brotuber I hope so.

>> No.28498039

>>28497920
definitely mostly both

>> No.28498112

>>28487374
Speaking as a fujo, that’s not fujobait that’s fujo repellant lol

>> No.28498161

I wanted edgy anime designs like Blazblue or Guilty Gear, something cool looking. Their designs are too fujoish for me
Like one of them has fucking neon cat ears and a bdsm mask

>> No.28498247

>>28497697
I'm filtered by NijiEN's female-appealing designs and themes, and even besides that they don't ever do or play anything interesting enough to overcome the male debuff. Fucking Selen is more of a brotuber than they are.
I don't really get that feeling from these guys, and their pre-debut twitter posts are not nearly as cringe as most people's, at least not yet.

>> No.28498248

>>28497920
go away groombud

>> No.28499432
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>>28498112
true, their designs look ugly in my eyes

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>>28486758
>that Il Palazzo looking motherfucker isn't fujo bait

I'm willing to give em a chance, but come on now, that's not a design that's supposed to appeal to men.

>> No.28501803

>>28501407
Bullshit man, Sasuke or Ichigo to you would be fujobait.
Your mind is poisoned by the vtuber scene.

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>>28501803
>Sasuke
>Not fujobait

You what.

>> No.28502395

>>28501971
>fujobait = popular with fujos
What, you want to say Gon and Killua, or Goku and Vegeta for that matter, are fujobait too? What about Naruto himself?
It's about the general aesthetic intention in the work. A character like Sasuke (and every Naruto character really) appeals to male audiences seeing as he's an extremely successful Shounen manga character, and was explicity designed to be.
I can give you an endless list of characters that are popular with fujos that aren't fujobait. Actual fujobait would be something like Banana Fish or Showa Genroku Rakugo.

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28502572

>Shounenshit discussion

>> No.28502648

>>28497920
ToT

>> No.28503583

>>28486758
>>they changed the channel name from Tempus (implying they're part of HoloEN)

This was never the implication tard. The website had HOLOSTARS in big fuckin block letters and you idiots still managed to rrat yourselves into a fervor.

>> No.28504751

>>28486758
>tall + yaoi hands
>non-fujobait
nah

>dissapointed females spamming catalogue with how "ugly" they are
that's jealous holobronies trying to put down male competition

>> No.28506014

>>28502572
seethe

>> No.28506253

Most blatant shill thread I've ever seen.

You lick yagoo's asshole so much you even advocate for his retarded decision to make males. Either that or you're a paid shill. "Our males are better than their males", is that seriously your argument? No males are acceptable.

>> No.28506358

>>28490554
He seems cool. Hope he's not retarded .

>> No.28506440

>>28497920
especially both

>> No.28506732

>>28506253
Anon, I can see how you'd feel this way. You're not even wrong.
Personally, I'm not nearly as invested as you are. I took the small corpo pill as soon as StarsEN was announced, so I've had more than enough time to come to terms with it.
I'm still a holofag at heart though, keep up with all the happenings and watch streams here and there.

>> No.28506899

>>28486758
>non-fujobait designs
How do you figure that considering their chins?

>> No.28506994

>>28506899
What about their chins?

>> No.28507041
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28507041

>>28486758
Eu Eu

>> No.28507067
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28507067

>>28488756
What? Luxiem designs are literally UtaPri rip-offs (otome game franchise) If they were actually focused on shilling PROPER bfe experience (Vox with his shitty content doesn't count) it would have been cool, but that only would work if they got a team of -actual- voice actors.

>> No.28507459

>>28507067

if they had an actual sound engineer with some experience recording in non-optimal environments to work with the talents, almost anyone can voice act to the point they hit the correct tones for the type they're trying to hit.

honestly kinda weird that neither of these companies has really done that for their male talents

>> No.28507533

>>28491028
based

>> No.28507693

>>28506253
nijiseethe

>> No.28507777

>>28488852
God it would have been hilarious if they released the silhouette shadows and it was
>fat ugly bastard hentai shape
> A shota
>Generic nice guy protagonist
>"Bob" The huge black ntr man

>> No.28507796
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28507796

>>28491028
holy based

>> No.28507799

>>28502395
Not that anon but Sasuke is prime fujobait.

>> No.28507825

>>28488869
They sure aren't designs aiming for men.

>> No.28507976

>>28486758
>non-fujobait designs
Just because they are bad fujobait designs doesn't make them not fujobait designs.

>> No.28508079

>>28507799
Absolutely not. In any way.

>> No.28508197

>>28508079
He absolutely is. Fujos love naruto.

>> No.28508354

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NsChSGkobo

this design/rig combo is unironically an affront to god. Be he a bro, fujobait, or otherwise, I wouldn't be able to look at this fucked up face for any extended period of time

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>>28486758
can i copy your homework bro?
sure just change some stuff

>> No.28508418

>>28508197
Fujos love a lot of things that are not created to be aimed at them, like most shounen.

>> No.28508559

>>28508418
Yes, and if they love it it is fujobait. Fucking Gundam is fujobait too, going all the way back to Char and Amuro. Doesn't mean it can't also appeal to sane people too but it's still fujobait.

>> No.28508687

"males are alright if they aren't fujobaiting"
No, there is no acceptance of males. Go jump in a volcano.
No males

>> No.28508765

>>28486758
they are fujobait designs they're just designed like shit

>> No.28508906

>>28498248
we're not chumbuds. we're rindorks now.

>> No.28508920

>>28491028
i kneel

>> No.28508924

>>28508559
>if a group of people like something, it was made to appeal to them
roru, okay dude

>> No.28509178

>>28508354
that's what i thought about irys but now she's my favorite EN by a mile

>> No.28509587

>>28509178
This. None of them are as ugly as Irys felt.
I don't know what all this handwringing is about though, why do you even need a male to have a good design unless you're attracted to him?
If they had great designs it would be a plus, but if they don't it's no sweat off my back.

>> No.28509654

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mEOrsBsLs
Whoever rigged this should rig everyone

>> No.28509673

>>28509587
I'm sorry about your blindness anon

>> No.28509730

>>28509673
Thank you. I'm sorry about your homosexuality.

>> No.28509799

>>28509654
this is randon.

>> No.28509960

>>28491028
Based.

>> No.28510278

>>28486758
An impossibru task. Female vtubers have the character trait cunny or moe, male vtubers have the character trait faggot or cringe. Moreover, we are here at hololive and not at any other entertainment company because most of us like girls.

>> No.28511339

>>28488756
They hands are freakishly huge as well.

>> No.28511600

>>28510278
What you didn't like Kirito?

>> No.28513538

>>28507976
if it's not catching the fujos, it ain't bait

>> No.28513927

>>28508924
Nobody implied that. Bayonetta was made for straight men but mostly literal faggots have claimed her as an LGBT icon.

Just because a character wasn't made to be fujobait doesn't mean he isn't when fujos flock to him. Slam Dunk wasn't made to be fujobait when it started, but it became the formula for Jump sports series being unintentional fujobait (with the exception of Kuroko no Basket).

>> No.28514006

>>28509587
Magni looks awful. Noir too. You can look at their sub count and already see there's a big gap. Both of them need redesigns.

Noir at least looks not like an eyesore in motion, but Magni is cursed with bad model and terrible rigging. I am not sure how that got manager approval.

I thought Noctyx had some scuff designs with Yellow Mario and Purple Luigi, but those designs are god compared to half of Tempura.

Thank god Shu failed the Holostars audition. Cover is clearly on some hard drugs.

>> No.28514032

>>28486758
Appeal to us? Maybe the day when they becone a loli or a hag, i dont care about this faggots

>> No.28514124

>>28513927
Anon, do you know what the word "bait" means?

>> No.28514229

>>28486758
One of them is as big as a fag as uki is you know. He openly thirsted over kanae on his pl twitter

>> No.28514345

>>28514229
First good argument here. Fair enough I suppose.

>> No.28514420

>>28486758
>he thinks it's only women calling the designs ugly

>> No.28514711

>>28486758
If you wanted someone who was like (you) then you should have been supporting male 2views.

>> No.28514717

>>28502395
This girl fucking gets it. Guys will never understand shit like this.

>> No.28514882

>>28513927
I have come to the conclusion that this anon is retarded.

>> No.28514944

>>28502395
If a male character is popular, generally they're popular with both genders.

Fujos like anything they can ship, and that pretty much just requires more than one male character.

>> No.28515070

>>28486758
>Disappointed women spamming ugly
This brightens the soul, to see the fujo btfo. Still not going to watch a bunch of grown men pretending to be anime boys, I’m not gay or a women.

>> No.28515488

>>28515070
Fair. I'm probably not going to end up watching them either, but Hololive is the only big corpo that actually tries appealing to men specifically so I'm simply curious to see what angle they'll take on this, given the things I outlined in the OP.
Maybe they'll create the only male vtubers that I can stand watching. Probably not, but anything's possible.

>> No.28515538

>no cute trap

Yep, definitely appeals to me.

>> No.28515591

>>28515488
Stars JP is pretty comfy anon, have you tried them? I promise the fujibaiting people keep posting about is GROSSLY overstated.

>> No.28515940

>>28515591
I watched the animations, they're pretty good.
Not quite good enough to overcome the language barrier I'm afraid. The algorithm doesn't feed me enough clips to get me invested and I mostly watch small corpos these days anyhow.
Don't hate them. Maybe I'll try them once I do my reps, but even still, the designs, the demeanor. Not quite for me probably. Could be wrong though.

>> No.28516001

>>28515591
>>28515940(me)
Oh, and I'm not really looking to watch a male vtuber for "comfy" unless that involves autistically talking about one of my niche interests.

>> No.28516214

>>28508079
>he doesn't know

>> No.28516262

>ctrl+f fujo
>46 results
You mean Yume, right? There isn’t that many fujoshi to bait anyway, most female fans are Yumeshi.

>> No.28516359

>>28516262 (me)
yumejoshi*

>> No.28516609

>>28486758
paid intern hands typed this post

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>>28486758
>I think they're unironically trying to appeal to us instead of the femoids.
Every Japanese artist understand how to pander to other dudes, you have 2D avatar and can do anything with it, so what exactly you do with that freedom? You make pretty girl to fuel the horny for example, this is really fucking obvious. If this is attempt to pander to "us" then it completely missed the mark, I won't watch someone who can't do basic research nor understand the very foundation of this media. Look at pic related, that was dev streaming his space game with animated avatar of lizard from Stellaris, this dude knew what he was doing, if this lizard joined Holostars and played something like Planetfall I would not only give him a chance this would be membership from me right there, meanwhile I won't give any chances to these dudes.

>> No.28516882

I just want my cute Shota Trap vtuber YAGOO PLS

>> No.28516934

>it’s ugly so that appeals to me

rumao

>> No.28516978

>>28516934
Unironically >>28516649

>> No.28517161

Sweet summer anon... As we speak, tons of yaoi are already being written and drawn. Their personality, even models, are unnecessary. Anime boys ALWAYS get dicked down.

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28518637

I said this last night, but I think it’s poignant to say in this thread as well. Anons agreed with me last night too:

An untapped market within the vtuber space is a brotuber who promotes a more refined and healthier lifestyle. I’m unsure how people from the mainland would take a vtuber who promotes healthy living, but in western audiences, it resonates more, so it would be perfect for EN. While it might be pathetic to rely on the words and advice from a person playing a character, it would nonetheless help:

Calli: Fat drunk
Ame: Mixed bag, undisciplined
Kiara: Menhera, relies on doctors and medication and doesn’t improve her mind against her illness
Gura: Moldy lifestyle, likely doesn’t take care of herself
Ina: Dirty neet
Kronii: Depressed menhera
Mumei: Menhera
IRys: Weak-willed, depressed

Partially, the reason I think the above is very attractive to many people here is because they are quite relatable, but these ways of living are absolutely not healthy in any way. There are only two EN’s that have reached balance within themselves that make them very resilient to showing their vulnerability or have very few vulnerabilities: Fauna, and Bae. When Fauna first appeared she inspired and motivated anons to go to the gym, I remember those first few posts in /hlgg/ about it. But what if we had an endearing bro-vtuber? One who was more relatable on a biological scale, a brotuber who understands the trouble of being male? What I would like to see is one of them who promotes healthy lifestyle choices such as eating healthier, exercise, expanding your mind into different disciplines, etc... it would be very welcoming in an industry that doesn’t pay notice to the idea that their fans might be in unhealthy situations or maintain unhealthy lifestyles that only lead to exhaustion and depression. It’s a tall order, but it would be interesting to see.

>> No.28520517

>>28496935
>>28497154
>>28497316
Yall are retarded lol

>> No.28520716

I know I'm getting ahead of myself here, but I'm hoping that whatever group follows Tempus is the exact opposite of them, like a group of big bads in the same vein as HoloX but more explicitly fantasy-themed.
I want them to hire me to be Werdna.

>> No.28521104

>>28486758
>non-fujobait designs
How much did Yagoo pay you to shill them here?

>> No.28521874

Its so funny watching holofags going through the same copium /nijiEn/ went through, brotubers will never exist in the west cause the moment they look at the debut analytics it will shot 90% female and they will pander to them

>> No.28522444

>>28514124
Yes, but that meaning in terms of [insert degenerate crowd here] -bait is corrupted. I refer to my Bayonetta example.

>>28514882
When you argue semantics, that's when you lose. My Little Pony was made for little girls, are you arguing it's not bronybait? Fuck off retard

>> No.28522657

>>28490554
No zoomer would know about potion seller.

>> No.28523072

>>28518637
>brotuber who promotes a more refined and healthier lifestyle
If that ever resonates with people, it gets canceled or subverted. The best you can get in that space is some faggot like Hasan

>> No.28523292

>>28488079
this
If I really feel like watching a "brotuber" I'll just watch TheViper or someone elsw who is actually good at games. I don't need some anime avatar and constructed personality.

>> No.28524318

>>28488756
>>28498112
The fact that they failed to bait fujos does not change that they were trying to fujobait

>> No.28524345

>>28522444
Your definition is completely ludicrous. Bait is by definition about intention to attract/trap, otherwise it's just fucking food.
Are you trying to say that My Little Pony was designed deliberately to appeal to male neckbeards in their 30s? Are you retarded?
Wait, don't answer that.

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>>28515591
Why would anyone waste time on males when there are hundreds of girls you can watch?

>B-but they are good at games and play non fotm ones

So like Selen or Lumi? Who the fuck cares?

>> No.28524689

>>28524578
Theoretically, good comedy.

>> No.28524870

>>28524689
Just watch Enna or Pomu then.

>> No.28525072

>>28486758
I wondetr if they are from the same Fantasy world as Gen4s adventuring party

>> No.28525629

>>28523072
>implying leftists would ever go to a gym

Commies and Leftists arent interested in improving themselves because they believe they have everything figured out. I would hope that vtuber fans understand humility and know that one can always improve themselves either intellectually or physically. And I don’t think your statement is quite true unless we talk about politics or something extremely controversial.

Eating healthy, working out, or motivating people to be better than what they are, are things that aren’t necessarily controversial, especially the first two. The last one is a mixed bag because it forces people to understand that perhaps they are humiliating and mediocre and it forces them either to be depressed or to be motivated to change.

>> No.28526771

>>28490363
>Project Wingman
>Schizophrenia and Male Menhera simulator
Pretty fitting with what’s going on right now

>> No.28529644

>>28486758
I fucking hate them, I don't want guys near the girls.
But I think OP is on to something.
If they stay in their lane and the girls don't interact with them too much I wouldn't mind them.
They can be the bro friend experience you losers want.

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