/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous thread: >>28351212

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!
Back in Time Edition

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory blurb for new anons (Test version, subject to change):
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOAL(S):
- Maps!
- Chuubanite doc
- Name Oceans and Seas, possibly make new names for continents (Nearly complete)


>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE:
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>https://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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>Special
We are making a /vtl/ team! Here are the current suggestions:
https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Suggest and add to it!

[Anonymous No.]

Shit.
>Anchor post for the chuubanite rework.

PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION ON THE MECHANICS OF CHUUBANITE TO THIS REPLY CHAIN. Anons who do not wish to see chuubanite debates should hide this post.

Current proposal: https://rentry.org/q92vo (WIP)

Chuubanite Official Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed}

[Anonymous No.]

>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>28421519
First, most of this thread agreed when redrew it to give them that island (it is more useful to them anyways) than the exclave
Second, I am trying to respect their border but it makes zero sense for them to have an exclave that they would not be able to actually hold there.
Third, I would give them another island, but there is no other island that the one I gave from 2434.

[Anonymous No.]

PSA for any discussion about tech balancing:
Pic related

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like Mikan and Nadeshiko are doing some kind of VTubers worldbuilding stream on Friday.
Mikan has had concepts for a VTuber RPG bouncing around her skull for a while. Nade has lore of being an MMO guildmaster, and she's recently got super into military history. So it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
https://twitter.com/NonomiyaMikan/status/1548547161356378113

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>>28421778
>b-but that violates Bojangle's Third Law of Shitenomics
>magic

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>>28421959
They should invite us on and hear us talk about tech balancing the whole time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28421959
When your oshi is also a lore nerd

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>>28421635
I do only skim the threads, I admit. I didn't happen to catch it the other times, I just happened across it just now when I checked the vote anchor post. You can call it a belated response and ignore it or whatever, but you should be aware this *is abuse of inactive threads* and you are setting a precedent. Hopefully that won't bite a thread you like in the arse in the future.
>>28421757
The reason I mentioned /pyon/ is because the islands given to them were made up, created when they requested them, to fit the shape they wanted them to be, and placed in a location where they wouldn't disturb currents etc.
What I meant by "give" wasn't to take an island from another nation and hand it to them, but rather create another island in an empty spot. It doesn't even have to be a single island. It can even be a bunch of smaller ones making an archipelago. Seems fitting for a pirate nation, I'd say.

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>>28422128
>make an island
Would love to do that. But I am not in charge of that. Its not about taking land from an inactive thread as much as it is trying to make sense of how borders work. I would make the same case if it were one a nijisanji threa. Not to mention i actually like Senchou

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>>28422286 (me)
Heck, id be down to create a bunch of little islands in that area myself. But I can only work with what i have and i was told not to make more land

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>>28421778
we should honestly backpedal everythign bthat goes beyond 1750, including /inf/, because this was what the thread last agreed upon. no tech that clearly goes beyond it and also no amgic that mimics tech that goes beyond it. ergo if there are no "real" phones then there are also no "magical" phones ect.

any exception to this needs to be rooted with goo reasonign and agreed upon, for example /nasa/ being space people

maybe that will actually stop for once the "i need future tech for my country because actually my country is super good in that and therefore needs to be the best in it."

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>>28422405
Agreed. Would rather have it back at 1550 but no one wants to tear everything down, me included since I am fine writing in this era. Anything that goes 25 years ahead that makes no sense lore wise needs to go.

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Whelp, whether you want /nasa/ to have tech nerfs again or not Sana is graduating. So we're not going to be here for much longer.

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>>28422756
Nasa wasnt an issue due to it making sense with lore.

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>>28422756
no i don't see that as necessary, /nasa/ actually has a good reason for beign what they are.
if anythign i would however ask you to take lamington away one way or the other or else we just have pandoras box lying around which is more trouble for the future

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>>28422836
It was a fair compromise. We were one of the smallest generals so low population made sense. Even with machines you can only do so much with a small population. Even then the machines we had were mostly hand machines.

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>>28422910
You're going to have to ask Cunt about that.

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>>28422913
Absolutely. Nasa is an exception to the rule because you guys worked it well. Inf is not on the other hand.

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>>28422286
>>28422393
Just to be clear, I'm not against the exclave being given to the niji continent, I wasn't exactly fond of it at the start either but noone made enough of a fuss about it for it to be removed so it stayed. It does make more sense for that area to be Niji land.
What I'm arguing about is that the compensation for the land taken is insufficient, hence the new island(s) proposal.

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>>28422992
Well as much as I'd like to stay I'll have to find a new oshi or become one. Even then I'm banned from being a mediator ever again.

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>>28423029
Yeah, i agree with you. Really, you could make the case that this is fixing past mistakes because all i have wanted was borders that make sense overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>/ag/ has returned from the slanneshi hell realm
and thus the plot continues, as brosnan commands.

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>>28423029
Panon tried his best to come up with a compromise within the limitations he has, he cannot just add an island himself. there actually is a newer map that i know has more islands overall so maybe worth checking if it also added some islands there that could also be part of the compromise

other than that, even if /ahoy/ loses "1000pixels" its not like with /uuu/ where they lose half of their overall landmass, /ahoy/ is still more than large enough a nation.

and there is also still the issue of /dsw/ so /lazulight/ will probably have to give way some land soon since /dws/ needs to be placed somewhere on that overall landmass

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>>28423396
I also want to say about LL that all nijigenerals will shrink over time.

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>>28423500
add to that that the holo borders need to shrink too since /v7/ and /mhm/ aren't even placed yet.

in fact there are several changes we are behind on. the jews need to get in, /gorls/ is dead at this point, /noel/ is /hamu/ now it seems ect ect

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>>28423396
>>28423500
(playing a bit into Holo vs Niji geopolitik here but) That sounds like a Niji problem. I don't really see why, in matter concerning just Niji generals, a Holo general has to come out with a loss. Surely you would also be against a Holo general being placed/expanding into Niji territory due to lack of space.
Though I don't think that will happen/be necessary. We could have, for example, used the unplace dholo generals from >>28424048 and say that since the Holo continent doesn't have enough space we'll just take some Niji coasts. Obviously that wouldn't make sense, but it's an example.
There is a bylaw (No. 8 to be exact) that does say new nations take land from surrounding related active/inactive nations, so that's how we'd place any new ones as mentioned in >>28424048 or the current Niji matter, but we still have to make it fair and mitigate some losses. I just feel that in this specific case with /ahoy/, the compensation for losses caused by matter they're unrelated to isn't enough.

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>>28424762
the reason for why usually niji nations would not lose land for holos and vice versa is because they are on different continents and it would make little sense for a new holo nation to emerge in the middle of the nijis and vice versa.
/ahoy/ is the exception because they had land on a continent they didn't have much of a reason to be to begin with.

and the active part of the thread has pretty much come to the conclusion 2 weeks ago, that it is in fact, enough compensation

and if this does trigger you so much you need to chew this up after the fact then oh boy, better don't read up on stuff even further because i doubt you will take well to the fact vshojo is getting land on the holo continent essentially

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>>28424762
Because if you dont want to play nice, ill take the land by force and you can try to beat my army led by Pomerlane all you want trying to take it back. And Alice would love to blow the fuck out of whatever comes her way. So how about that offer?

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>>28425301
a-are you the panon anti?

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>>28425301 (me)
You dominate the largest continent and I have been as fair as is in my power. But I am not going to play nice if you consider this taking too much because this isnt close to a problem of taking land like others have.

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>>28425380
(I am playing along with their geopolitik not being serious)

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>>28425210
>and the active part of the thread has pretty much come to the conclusion 2 weeks ago, that it is in fact, enough compensation
I did admit that I am late to the discussion, nad if you all have in fact voted and/or agreed upon that being enough, then that's fine. I am but one anon, so my power is limited. I thought I'd at least voice my opinion as a singular HoloJP rep even at this time. Majority wins, however, and it's not like I'm that peeved about /ahoy/ losing some land, though I figured I'd try to get them a better deal out of this.
>>28425301
>>28425423
>>28425423
>>28425484
I'd be all about this if the nations warring each other were both active, but alas. Also the world is supposed to reflect the /vt/ board, so unless the actual generals were raiding each other (eg /rushia/ being invaded by schizos, or indie threads falseflagging in eachother, or that time /inf/ had rigged a poll of an indie(?), niji(?) thread) were3not meant to instigate wars unless both reps/lore makers agree to it, iirc.
The /morig/-/meat/ naval battles arc was fun though

[Anonymous No.]

god, no wonder 3beat never finalized the voting results, lookign back on the archive the votes are all over the place to different posts and then was pretty much halted with the new map proposal being fiddled out

but yeah the /ahoy/ change was pretty much agreed upon unanimously, the changes between /nijiEN/ and /2434/ back then was abstain and the other ones to be reverted.

with the latter 2 basicly being overworked with new map proposal and so far received well, except i will still annoy Panon that /warkop/ border should be one river up.

so even a vote afterwards would not change anything in regards to /ahoy/

[Anonymous No.]

>>28190104
>>28416192
Holy shit why are the Lunaitos smol!

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>>28426476
Im just shitposting about the rule. I know well i cant go to war against inactive nations

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I fucking hate Mozzies. They are a very special kind of anti. Mozzies use Sana's own actions and words against the Sanalites. They are literal imposters. They deceive you as one of their own. Then they isolate you from the rest of the group before going in for the kill.

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>>28426476
sure, mystical rep of unnamed holojp nation, this totally was not just you being bored and wasting time after having been told several times that shit is already a done deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>28426829
Sounds like an average schizo in NijiEN to me, can relate

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>>28426671
It turns out a diet consisting 80% of mug root bear, fruity pebbles, and choccy milkshakes does not provide the best nutrition for growth...

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>>28426671
Bros Im gonna... im gonna uooohhhhh

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>>28426671
chat reflect the chuuba

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>>28426671
>>28427244
imagine picking up a Lunaito and carrying them around

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>>28427244
Smol people are the scrappiest fighters in my experience.

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>>28421778
Imagine needing technology. Everyone should just join the Cult of Reinhardt.

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>>28427355
>>28427499
>>28427533
>>28427607
NAAAAAA you WILL respect our authority

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>>28428137
uoooohhhhhh willy ToT

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>>28428137
Respect deez nuts

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>>28427499
Are there any more examples of this?
It's fun seeing how interests and personality between people are often intertwined

[Anonymous No.]

>>28427947
Magitechnology is best technology.

>>28428137
I wasn't trying to insult you.

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>>28428285
Hello

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>>28428285
hoomans are all psychos

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>>28427947
OG that you? about the technology that you want from us, just wanted to clarify a few thign is tha tis ok

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>>28428368
On lunch break but yeah I got about 10 minutes. Ask me something

[Anonymous No.]

>>28428347
Stop that slander

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>>28428285
Alice is small like her oshi

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>>28428368
It's always Risuner 1
Ri2ner scurries in the walls and makes fun of us until we found him out

[Anonymous No.]

>>28428422
you just want weapon technology or also other new technology for your nation?

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>>28428464
Hoomans don't know how to have fun and hate SEX. Risuners are trying to convert them via the SEX revolution.

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>>28428496
Mainly weapons but if you have any other cool shit I would like to know. We probably won't be buying cannons because morig got us covered but firearms like rifles and stuff would be nice. Can't think of what else. Also I will be home in 2-3 hours to answer more.

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>>28428521
Hey buddy, just a question, are you making yourself into a potential threat? It is very important to know this so you may go back home with your bowels inside of your body.

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>>28428285
I have back pain
We always suffer

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>>28426962
>mystical rep of unnamed holojp nation
Noone asked me to name myself tho (I'm the Sakuran rep)
>being bored
I was actually posting in-between doing stuff, though you'd have to take my word for it
>and wasting time after having been told several times that shit is already a done deal
I conceded didn't I? The general is for discussion, after the situation was explained to me I saw why the decisions taken are how they are and we've come to an understanding. You don't have to sound that annoyed.

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>>28428712
Teaching your people that SEX is fun isn't a threat. Risuners, primarily Jayawan just wants to see you fuckers smile and have fun. Throw a festival or something.

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>>28428771
Yeah, didnt see anything wrong with what you did. Its fine to talk about it imo

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>>28428483
I'm a shitposting horny boi. Ri2ner is a mischievous little fucker. Risu says lewd shit all the time and loves memes. Yeah does it surprise anyone why risu is my oshi?

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>>28428793
Sounds like Jayawan needs to stop being an obtrusive agent, you know? He's a foreign diplomat and all. Causing issues should not be his priority.
Besides, there's loads of fun things to do around, like theme parks.

[Anonymous No.]

>Write a tragic part.
>Have to step back from writing for a bit.

Maybe it was too soon. Still not everything can always go as planned.

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>>28354095
I'm more than happy to answer your questions Risuner.
>How would the druids react to Hamdani sending scouts in your forests?
Presumably, they would be a lot more cautious toward approaching Hamdani's scouts and would probably not go out of their way to interact with them unless there was a necessity to do so and due to their reclusive nature.
>How much tolerance would there be for risuner squeebing your people? Hamdani just might turn into an underground sex cartel in a way.
Squeebing is taken as a serious offense to the forest and is looked down upon as the Forest itself will punish Squeebers and ruin their transformation.
However, there is no enforcing body aside from the Forest and Saplings are curious and naive even if they understand the consequences of squeebing. Squeebing can quickly get out of hand however because Sapling tribes are often smaller, tightly knit communities, and having this community corrupted would quickly become an issue for the tribe's health as a whole. While Saplings wouldn't respond with violence, they would eventually gather themselves as a community and actively avoid you. While you may steal away a few Saplings for this cartel, it probably won't be able to expand into anything huge. Scouts might also suddenly find paths that were once there to now be blocked off and the forest as a whole to be evermore winding.
>Would you accept our nuts (not the sex kind) as payment for stuff?
Saplings would gladly accept nuts as they mostly have a bartering economy, especially for specimens from your native land, they would be enthused to take part in trade for new and exciting plant life.
>Would you have some kind of open shops?
Saplings are hunter-gatherers so at best there would be trading posts for when tribes or individual saplings settle down.
>Do you guys have any infrastructure of any kind at all?
Not really, there are large hubs around elder trees with rudimentary constructs but the "infrastructure" would mostly just consist of medium to large tents and often living inside of large trees like the Aliens from Avatar.
>May i kiss your precious cheeks?
I am already taken, but I will allow you to poke them or even pinch them.
>IMPORTANT!-Do you have some sort of hierarchy or someone in charge for Hamdani to meet?
Where ever there is a tribe, there is a Chief of that respective tribe. Shamans are spiritual leaders and outrank the leadership of Chiefs very rarely unless there is a direct call from the Forest for them to intervene or in ritualistic matters.
>What kind of fruits, veggies, other natural goodies you got in that forest of yours?
Most commonly found are berries and fruits from the Rosaceae family such as apples, apricots, cherries, chokeberries, etc.
As for vegetables, any normally vegetable that would be able to reside in temperate environments would be able to survive as the soils of /uuu/ are exceedingly fertile so anything like Buckwheat, Cauliflowers, Celery, Barley or any kind of herbs would be able to thrive or at the very least be found somewhere in the forest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28429362
Sapling bro, there's an Onobot wandering in the woods

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>>28429627
I wonder what it's doing out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28429306
Tis what it is, no harm in a quick nap between writing
>>28428327
alright nora, you're fine.
>>28428208
too the chocolate pits with you

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>>28428137

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>>28429828
As a Sanalite we learn to love smol. Sana is BEEG. To her everyone is smol.

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>>28430281
*hits you with a brick*

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>>28430281
*femalepregs you*

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>28430869
>>28430963
Its true. Everyone is smol compared to Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431399
You are smol compared to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>28429820
trying to make friends with his fellow saplings because he totally is one too and not some weird onobot, 100% sapling garantued

[Anonymous No.]

I need me a cute shota Lunaito.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431445
That's fine. We're both smol compared to Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431616
Rosebuta? Is that you? There was an anon here from /rose/ yesterday who wanted to help you with worldbuilding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431697
Yeah, I posted in /rose/ to see if he’s still around. I’m so pissed that I missed him, I really hope he’s still around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431616

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>>28428771
if you had said you are the sakuran rep i would have had a different stance from the getgo, but if someone comes claims to be an old timely rep that does not identify himself at all but in the vagues of ways while bringing up a past issue already resolved my first while a different discussion is happening about some other issue instinct is that it is someone trying to stir up shit.

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>>28432136
>bringing up a past issue already resolved while a different discussion is happening about some other issue my first instinct is that it is someone trying to stir up shit.

that is how that sentenced should have looked like

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine, a /vtwbg/ UN documentary in the same style as The Office

[Anonymous No.]

Hey anons. Do we have any docs on how Vitubia is actually set up (i.e. the Heavenly Realm > Mortal Realm > Vitubia stuff)? Working on the chuubanite doc and I wanted to link it for the reader's convenience when referring to how vitibium acts as a bridge, but I can't find anything in the archive. I may just be blind.

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>>28432709
is sonny fuckign unhinging the door?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28432823
Maybe so. All the better to watch you, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28429247
Show us the theme parks and he will gladly cancel his plans for the SEX revolution

[Anonymous No.]

>>28432907
i actually have never seen anything of noctyx before except i think on clip where fesh overslept the minecraft server opening

[Anonymous No.]

>>28433269
Huh. Well, do you have any interest in giving them a try? If so, what kind of content do you like, anon? I'm always happy to shill my chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28432684
Pomudachi: "I see no problem with it. I mean, they do these orgies all the time. It's a weekly thing."

Teamate: "Last week, wasn't that great. Hooked up with this Pentomo ambassador. He had the body but none of the... Je ne sais quoi. But the week before. By the gods! You shouldve seen her!"

Risuner: "Yeah I fucked em all. Humans, non-humans, you name it. 'cept for the Meatheads. Havent tried that piece of meat if you know what I mean. They're always around in the floors above us. Five, four, of them. Havent seen them join in ever."

Meathead: "Yeah... we're uhh... awfully aware of the diplomats' weekly get together. Oh we know. Usually by the end of the week, the four of us would stay over a bit late and... you know... talk work stuffs. Legal work stuffs mind you. Nothing fishy going on here..."

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>>28432709
I don't think we have anything like that.

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>>28433496
...Please tell me you're joking? No wonder this project has such a hard time drawing in newcomers, trying to write for the setting when none of the setting's basic rules have even been laid out must be a fucking mess. Anons?? Please tell me both this poster and I are simply blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28433405
got any retro streams? if not i will take personal recommendation

[Anonymous No.]

>>28431592
Please do write data logs from this Onobot, I think it's the funniest thing that's happened in /uuu/ for a while.

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>>28433656
It's not that we dont want to but the subject is a can of worms every time it's brought up
Have you seen paragraphsanon's essays?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>28433835
HOLY SHIT

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>>28433724
already on my list, just wanah finish with risuner first, here is the intro piece for it tho:
https://rentry.org/qf5fh

>>28433656
why do you think even the regulars get shit mixed up all the time and cannot stick to one thing? nothing that the thread ever decides, if it even gets so far, gets put down in writing and archived. you either figure this shit out by lurking for a while and see what is talked about or written by others, ask the right questions or just stay dumb.

if you don't beleive me then try and see it you can find any documentation fo anything talked about since you came in like the definition of representative/mediator, how to interact with inactive nations, what the current year and supposed tech elvel is ect. just some general rules abotu how stuff works here at all. its a wonder anything about chuubanite was written down in the first place.

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>>28433835
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We have a new WAR meme post.

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>>28432684
>"So it has come to my attention that certain representatives of their nations feel as though they are being called prejudiced and insensitives terms, including but not limited to: shota, femboy, and shortstack."
>"By 'certain representatives', are you talking about-"
>"Shut the fuck up Risuner, those complaints could have been made by anyone, nanora!"
>"If we looked at that complaint form, I'd bet a bag of nuts that it's written in pink ink and has a candy wrapper stuck to it."
>"Alright, alright. Let's all calm down and just agree to watch our words, yeah? Next up, please take time to learn cultural norms in the office if you're from the fetish isles, do not ask for samples from the women's bathroom even if you're being polite and applying for a janitorial job does not mean that you can clean the toilets with your tongue. Much the opposite."

[Anonymous No.]

Well that's enough about mourning dead spacemen. Its time to get to what really matters. Mossback tortoises going "wow!".

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>>28434082
Shit we should have verified what you made on rep

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>>28433670
Funny how we were just talking about Sonny, he plays a lot of them! Off the top of my head, in the past month he's played Mario 64 & Sunshine, Resident Evil 1 & 2, and Hitman. Here's his Mario 64 stream if you want to give it a shot: https://youtu.be/tNH6tGIrFnY
I think he's pretty endearing in this one since he has a lot of nostalgia for the game. He's passionate about game design in general and often pays close attention to small details, then gives small game reviews when he finishes each game. That being said, he's definitely not for everyone since he does tend to get autistically caught up in whatever he's playing, going quiet for long stretches at a time.

As for personal recommendations please watch Fujlgur's What Remains of Editch Finch: https://youtu.be/SlXxBL2W6cA
He gets very into the game and shows off a lot of his best qualities as a streamer, such as his ability to guess where the plot is going due to his vast knowledge of literature in general, as well as his tendency to get completely absorbed in a game's story while still holding a conversation with chat. I will refrain from actively shilling him because I am incapable of shutting up about him once I start. I love my wife, that is all, thank you.
>>28433835
>>28434082
So there really isn't anything like that? God damn it. Fine, I'll do it myself! ...Much later, because IRL is still keeping me pretty busy. Be prepared, anons. Once the chuubanite doc is finished I AM going to open conversation on a "World of Vitubia" doc. You lot could avoid so many timeloops if you were just better organized...

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>>28434620
Comfysenpai and ppsenpai do all the heavy lifting for mortals like me. Arigato

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>>28434147

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>>28434147
"I don't, I don't trust Meatheads. Like, ever. is it because of the man-eating thing? No! Not at all. It's the absence of it! Those cannibals... they clean up well... too well in fact. Havent heard a single one talked about eating people... All they do is actual work. Paperwork? Delivered on time. The cartography department? The director is a Meathead. R&D? Guess who's the head of research? No wrong guesses. You know what's funny? Im surrounded... by nutjobs! Squirrels, Takeshis, you name it. But Meatheads? They stayed over during the orgies but never participate. Cooped up in their office. They're planning something. I just know it!"

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>>28434620
>oshi is called the archivist
>fixing our archives
Fans reflect the streamer?

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>>28434882
Panon is proof thats not the case.

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>>28434943
>Pomu is a chaotic genocidal warcrimal
>Panon writes about a lawful genodical warcriminal

[Anonymous No.]

>>28434943
>Pomu is a shitposter
>Panon is a shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>28434943
Pomu is Pomu
Panon is Pomu
Pomu

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>>28434620
i will gladly help you with a World of Vitubia and General Rules doc

i ahve been trying to get these issues out of the way as they came along all this time in the hopes finally working at the rout of them and having a final decision once and for all, even if it means burning some old stuff away in the process to finalyl get rid of timeloops ect but each time it gets to a point of "yeah we really should decide it." and then everything stops there because no one wants to finalize it and be the guy.

this is why the niji border are still floating.
definition of reps/mediator never got finalized
the technology talk from today also just got stuck and is moving nowhere...

feels like paragraphanon is not the only one who lieks to discuss for the sake of discussion sometimes

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>>28435178
>discuss for the sake of discussion
I do the same.
>be the guy
Honestly, i would step up but i am the resident war autist that has a lot on his plate

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>>28434620 (me)
I realize dumping multi-hour streams in people's laps is not the best way to shill someone. Please have this clip of Sonny being his deadpan troll self: https://youtu.be/MnqhjHN5RFg
>>28435178
I haven't actually backread yet...was there another tech timeloop today? God damn it.

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>>28434620
I was planning on writing a "who we are" document for /nasa/ anyway. I still plan to write it even though Sana is graduating. It won't be done before the 25th because of the Sana collab marathon.

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>>28435347
Yep. Kronie nasfaq.

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>>28435336
the only reason i am not pushing stuff more to get it finished is because i already am the guy at work and /vrt/ to get things moving.
also while i have been lurking the thread for a whiel before ever psoting, when it comes ot beign active in here i am actually the newest person just before the nijiwave came and so i feel i already am being more pushy than i have the right for.

>>28435347
while i would have appreciated a stream aroudn an hour for easier digestion, i don't mind. lumi streams 8times the week at the minimum with no stream below 2 hours usually, easily going up to 5 so i am used to longer streams

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>>28421382
Here's the comparison with the fixed Anya-Petra border.
Also apparently I'm the only one who remembers all those other times we ended up inadvertently taking land from repless generals and no one put up a fuss, kek
So do we want to put up all that tech level discussion to a vote? Since that was voted on before, we would need at least three anons in support of such a change, which it seemed like there was.
>>28434620
A detailed guide for newcomers clearly outlining the setting would be beneficial for all, I think. A lot of us have been here since the beginning and just have an assortment of concepts we remember discussing, so feel free to ask about whatever in the thread when gathering material to jot it all down in one place.

[Anonymous No.]

Real life cannot stop me from writing the lore anymore probably

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>>28435765
Yes Tech up for debate. I specifically want it worded in a way that you cannot go 25 ahead of time unless you have a valid reason for said tech that makes sense.

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>>28435818
Good luck, anon. I've been saying things like my lore and the chuubanite doc for the thread as a whole are "almost done" for weeks at this point. Curse you, reality. Why must it always get in my way...

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>>28435765
you mean like the time you guys literily, without me even asking for it, gave me /yah/'s land without a second thought or minding the fact yah had a loredoc detailing their lroe based on the halfisland?

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>>28435178
>>28435498
You make me sound worse than I really was. I was just trying to give people my thoughts while waiting for our rep to come back.. I wanted to be cooperative too.

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>>28435937
Yeah, times like that.

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>>28436018
It aint you. I had this problem yesterday with meat chubbanite hydrophones and Alice with naval shit. My patience just is running thin.

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>>28436018
They've left me with a hefty backlog and I really want to address all of it. From what I've skimmed so far they have some valid concerns that should be addressed, but it's not irreconcilable.
We just have to present our side better, and those posters need to understand what we're really postulating, but it seems that almost no one actually bothered to read the Rentry of what was accepted by the thread months ago.

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>>28436018
that last one wasn't specificly about the technotalk today, more like in general

but ym question from earlier still stands, what is the actual need for /nasfaqg/ to be a century ahead in anything to be considered "good" in them when jsut being up to date to 1750 tech would already mean being ahead of 2/3 of the active nations in here by a lot next to already beign the richest nation and, when put together, one of the biggest navys in the world.

what flavour and or lore reason is there that is not just "a few other countries are also ahead for one reason or another so we want to too because we want to be better as them too"

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>>28436334
1. Read the Rentry.
2. Remember that the setting is punk history so tech doesn't actually provide as much of a tangible advantage as you seem to think.
3. As I said, I will respond to those concerns in a bit, don't bully the Kronie.

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>>28436334
The problem is people are all too happy to treat the tech limit like a speed limit, where even going the posted speed is commonly considered too slow. We should start telling people we're set in the 1500s so when they want to bump up against the tech limit they're not breaking everything.

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>>28436255
To be fair, i wasnt here myself to agree

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>>28436138
Yeah, I didn't chime in on the hydrophones yesterday since by the time I got here the conversation was long over, but I'm also against that being a thing unless it's extremely limited somehow. The proposed solution being "magic noisemakers" doesn't sit well with me, because then the counter to a problem caused by magic is more magic. The problem anons have with chuubanite right now is that it feels inferior to tech, so anons are forced to use technology whether they want to or not, but applications like hydrophones and the psychic tiaras are just doing the opposite. Magic completely outstrips tech in those instances, to the point where anons will be forced to use magic.

In the first place, even if a mundane application of chuubanite to create something equivalent to advanced tech is possible, it doesn't mean people should have ALREADY FIGURED OUT THAT APPLICATION. Complex uses of chuubanite require more complex glyphs and possibly even the combination of glyphs and activator substances. Therefore, complex magic and especially magitech isn't something that in-universe people should be able to just pull out of their ass at will. It would require time and dedicated research, just like regular tech does.

tl;dr Magic and technology should be roughly equal. Magic is not a deus ex machina.

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>>28436533
you really don't want to open that can of worms considering the sheer amount of timeloops this will cause

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>>28436589 (me)
>psychic tiaras
I'm not necessarily completely opposed to this just yet, though, since the /meat/anon who came up with them is still in the process of writing their proposal re:the catalog and adventurers. I will reserve judgement until that's actually done.

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>>28436589
Yeah. Balance is what i have been trying to hammer lately. The world would work better capped around 1550 to avoid this but its too late now

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>>28436618
I dont want to open it. But anons need to remember not everyone was here to agree on things in the past.

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>>28436696
It's a better time now then it will be in a couple months when the timeloops are even worse.

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>>28436755
those anons also need to remember that they came onto a project that was already established

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>>28436755
While that is true, you cant really just come and void past events and established ideas because you dont personally like them

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>>28436696
>Balance and Realism
You likely weren't here for this, but trying to balance out the world and make it as realistic as possible has nearly killed the thread multiple times, which is why people settled on punk history.

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>>28436696
I personally think you can be a little TOO anal about balance, and specifically about balancing things in ways that reflect real history. It's ultimately still a fantasy world, and some allowances should be made. But that voice of reason and doubt is also necessary, so please don't feel the need to stop doing it. Just be aware that as we are, in fact, writing in a fantasy world, sometimes majority opinion will simply disagree with the need to make everything 100% realistic. People should be allowed to do some things just because they're cool or fun, as long as it isn't completely bonkers broken.

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>>28436889
>>28436853
I think you miss that by going back that far, I think punk history is better for everyone. I am anal but I have to be sometimes.

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>>28436853 (Me)
You're free to make your lore completely realistic. I absolutely respect that, and I enjoy all the time-appropriate things you're writing about. But remember that it's a world with magic, chuuba gods, and fanbases that are literally robots/aliens/fantasy species. You could try to force everything into one neat logical box, but you'd oppressively stifle creativity and identity of other threads.

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>>28437002
but we shouldnt be forced to go back that far

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>>28437002
Buddy, by your logic I shouldn't even be here. My cyborgs cannot fit in your 1550s world no matter how I spin it. They'll break that setting just by existing.

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>>28437055
>>28437094
I am talking ideally which wont and shouldnt happen. High fantasy would work better in that period. Thats my take.

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>>28437196
why would it work better there?

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>>28436488
i read the entry and that together with #2 brigns me then to the question, if all that really mattered was the aestethik look of that time, then why not ask for that and that alone? why the need for also having a tech level of a century ahead. if this is not about gainign an "advantage" by better tech, then what is the need of even a single refrigarator ship?

>>28436589
i agree, its not jsut tech that needs limits, magic does too, if there are no real phones then magic phones should be out jsut the same. but its hard to argue agaisnt a nation set in 1500 to not ahve those magical phones when other nations cannot even limit themselves to 1750 wich is already 250 years ahead but also need another century on top of that.

>>28436804
>>28436840
while it is true that new people are comign in into an established thign and should not jsut be able to void all old stuff. it should also not mean that if there are old archaiv things that a good amoutn of people do not enjoy should stick around because 2 of the "oldguard" made it back then and changing it now is a pain in the ass.

whenever kroniis and their tech come up there is usually a general consens that it was a msitake, should ahve never have happened and it warped the whole project from its original goal just to fit them. so why stick to those deicisions? because it would require work to change it? thats a shitty way of handling thigns and if that keeps up, all it will do is turn off new people because why invest time and effort in a project that has constant timeloops of stuff because people don't wanna give an inch to fix it.

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>>28437302
Because we wouldnt be having the tech issues. No one would have to make sure their tech is up to date because you can get away with it back then. Look, feel free to disagree, i just think renaissance is better for high fantasy than enlightenment era.

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>>28437196
Vitubia isn't meant to be high fantasy in the first place because, again, magic isn't supposed to replace technology. They're equal alternatives to one another. Anons should be able to make their nations as technologically or magically focused as they like without putting them at a disadvantage from people who choose the other option.

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>>28436840
Just saw this, holy shit I never implied that.

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>>28437464
I am told different things every single day, sometimes multiple times. I was told earlier it was high fantasy. I dont know why I am the lightning rod here when i am being told two different things.

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>>28437507
This is effectively what you proposed

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>>28437507
You kind of did.

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>>28437589
Where were you told it's a high fantasy? I'm not trying to fight with you here, I'm just asking for context because I still haven't had time to backread yet.

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>>28437591
Yeah, thats putting words in my mouth. My original reply was “Being fair, I wasnt there to agree nor look it over.” To nasfaq saying that the thread agreed. My apologies if it appears i am actively calling for that when i merely was trying to be fair on my own behalf, that I didnt know nor could have agreed.

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>>28436589

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>>28437464
but this contradicts itself. you want everyone to basicly have the technological freedom as they see fit, with steamboats, guns, industrial revolution, artillery ect but at the same time if nations that go for magic decide to have magical phone tiaras or being able to shoot fireballs then it is too high fantasy

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>>28437683
Correcting myself, LOW Fantasy. Fuck me. I dont even know the damn difference half the time when the whole magic shit gets talked about here.

[Anonymous No.]

I just peeked into the conversation. This is just an idea for some magitek. Maybe we can have some magitek via chuubanite that can serve as weapons, armor, and medicine for everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Abandon science have sex with squirrels. That's all you need in life.

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>>28437869
Mate. I'm >>28436589. I don't want people to have steamboats unless magic can do the equivalent. Likewise, I don't think magical should be able to have phones unless technology can do the equivalent. This is not a contradiction.

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>>28437869
Thats not a contradiction. We all agree on this. Nta

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone must remember this. This is not an RTS where you need to dominate everyone else. It's not a race. And be creative. Ask me about creative ideas if you need to I'm very good at coming up with that shit. Also magic is everything and have sex with squirrels.

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>>28437877
High fantasy is primary fantasy, unicorn flying chariots, no guns, dark lords, lion jesus, hex circles, elves and wizards. Has its own laws of nature.
Low fantasy is secondary fantasy, there are normal people and systems, guns and cannons. Still bound by the regular laws of nature and physics.
Examples of low fantasy anime would be Saga of Tanya and Shingeki no Kyoujin

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>>28438151
Oh ok. I swear, shit confuses me when I see Risuner talk about fireball staffs because that is high to me

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>>28437877
Panon, I ask this with absolute love and respect. Why do you sometimes argue against a concept you don't understand? At least ask someone to explain the concept first... The simplest way to think of it is this: a high fantasy world is one with its own rules and laws of physics. A low fantasy world is one where the world still obeys the laws of reality, but there are fantasy elements that don't exist IRL. That's it.

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>>28437944
>>28438002
it feels to me like one

the tech level is supposed to be 1750, several nations take all kidns of reasoning to go way beyond that limitation to whatever tiem they want.

magical nation wants to use magic to mimic tech that is beyond 1750, NO, magic cannot be used for purposes that would go beyond this tech level because that would give magic an unfair advantage over technology

that is how it always feels like

[Anonymous No.]

NAAAAAA
As a base setting each thread was more or less agreed to be at the age of sails, however, ultimately the actual behavior of the individual general and the lore of the chuuba was what finally determines what technological level an individual nation is at. It's why lunaitos are set in medieval times while lacking many firearms despite the fact that many countries around them have access to gunpowder weapons and they themselves utilize low powered famine rockets. Magic is primarily used by nations like this that don't have a chuuba with lore or themes that would reasonably give them a higher tech level, however, it's not meant to just replace high tech weapons since chuubanite powered cannons don't just operate as cannons with chuubanite in them, like how lunshine is essentially just moonshine but the addition of chuubanite makes it so that lunshine requires an insane precision to make and is extremely dangerous. Some nations rely ALOT on chuubanite and they have weaknesses based on chuubanite and some nations rely almost completely on their technology and some have a mix of both, it isn't really supposed to be a hard cut off since tech level is complicated by the addition of chuubanite.

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>>28438226
>Why
I am a retard who learns from having people dunk on me sometimes. Reality, i get shit confused in my brain and like with fireball staffs and magical tiaras that are high fantasy and seemingly gets accepted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28437437
Im fairly certain the refrigerator ship is meant as an example mostly, and not an a confirmation of an actual refrigerator ship

but i could be wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Also I was researching /towa/ and WOW they're just as their lore describes the general. Is there something in the /towa/ water that we should be worried about?

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>>28438361
Risuner gem staffs are extremely limited and we are hellbent on keeping that shit a secret until we are at a point where we can make them with relative speed. That won't be for another 50 years.

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>>28438298
Both of us are vehemently against that, well I am at least.

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>>28438298
I do not know why you are assuming I want a nation to be able to have tech above 1750. Not only was I not here for the nasfaqq conversation, I even outright stated, multiple times, that I think both tech and magic should advance at the same rate. I am extremely confused where you're getting the impression I've ever argued for magic to be shittier. In the first place, while the nation I've talked about most often is my cyborg one because it's the one I'm currently working on most actively, I also have two nations that are going all-in on magic. We're talking lighting, heating, cooking -- everything done with magic. I have mermaids living off my northeastern coast. I am extremely confused where I've ever given you the impression I want magic to be worse than tech.

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>>28438361
Maybe its easier to think that the setting is low fantasy, but individual nations exist somewhere on the spectrum between high and low fantasy.
Risu and Im assuming lunaitos are closer to the high magic side, while infinity, who,and nasfaqg are trying to lean on the low fantasy direction

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>>28438505
Do you not see how this confuses me with high and low fantasy bro? I am fine with it but thats high fantasy to me.

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>>28438516
But 1750's tech levels aren't the limit, they are the average

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438585
Ok! Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

So I got some advice that works after I got fired. "Just write niggas."

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438620
I mean I guess but everyone else seems to be ok with it. I'm just going the MAGIC IS EVERYTHING route. Just that risuners magic is based off gemstones.

[Anonymous No.]

ok simple question to all

can i use chuubanite to enhance the bow and arrow of a medival themed nation to have the range and penetration power of a gun?

>>28438516
i am sorry but i have no idea what nation that picture is supposed to represent so i am not sure who this is talking?

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>>28438748
I have no issue with it, personally.

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>>28438811
personally I would say, yes, although I'd also personally use a crossbow for that and not a bow, but bow is fine too

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>>28438811
/Luxnoc/. And yes, I think you should absolutely be allowed to do that. It would have the same limitations as other people's guns, in that they shouldn't be as powerful as a semi-automatic rifle or whatever, but otherwise? Go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438811
What kind of gun?

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>>28438919
i dunno, same kind of gun that /who/ is using

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438676
This is a very important post

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438961
What are they using? Flintlock rifles?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438961
We've got a whole lot of them, but why us in particular?
You could also make explosive arrows to skip the whole penetration and range argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438913
i never argued that you wanted to be advanced beyond 1750.

but /nasfaqg/, /who/ and /inf/ already passed the limit of 1750 by a lot in one regard or another

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>>28438676
with the additional point that trains and Im assuming steam engines in general are sort of banned? Railways at the very least are

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438676
Oops, missed this. Yeah, I'm aware. People with tech above that level need to justify why they have it, and similarly I think people with magic equivalent to tech above that level need to justify why they have it. But so long as the justification is there and nobody wants to be the best at everything, I think that's fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28439104
you were the first nation that came to mind that i know uses guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>28438676
>>28439022
I don't think that was ever meant to be the case, or if it was then it wasn't made very clear judging by all this discussion. The issue is most threads aren't going to want to be average, everyone ends up pushing the boundary higher and higher and we end up with arms races that we were trying to avoid with the 18th century tech levels in the first place.

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>>28438811
Yea but there's no point to making an arrow gun when you've got crossbows if its only good for hitting one person.
As a lunaito, I think we'd need a specially trained guy to fire a chuubanite arrow since it would be made with the intent of breaching castles or it would be an ancient weapon meant to kill monsters. Probably also a special bow that's since a bow that powerful would just shatter if it wasn't reinforced (lunaitos of the thread, should we make more monsters to represent luna's monhun streams?)

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>>28439130
Yes. I was one of the original anons arguing against steam engines and trains. They are actually society-transforming.
>>28439219
That was meant to be the case for the average ever since the technology levels were set in the final vote. It's probably archived. Also, anonchama, XVIIIth century is 1701-1800...

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>>28439130
As of now.
I dont think we should have a tech level change until we enter our first beeg war, but that's just me

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>>28439230
nah i meant jsut some average bow and arrow, and enough to fill out some battle divisions for war with enough arrows to last a while

you make bow and arrow, slap some chuuabnite on it, bam range and penetration power of a gun

[Anonymous No.]

>>28439230
In the case of /luna/, such a siege engine would look more like a ballista, but with more explosives.

[Anonymous No.]

Sooooooo…..

[Anonymous No.]

I want advanced tech too….

[Anonymous No.]

>>28439111
And they have justifications for why that is. /meat/'s chuubanite already lets them do a lot of things that are also equivalent to post-1750s. I think these applications -- fleshgrafting, the /meat/ tattoos -- are perfectly fine. They're thematically appropriate and don't break world balance as a whole. Things like hydrophones and the psychic tiaras, however, do. That kind of tech has ramifications for more than just one nation, it changes how societies as a whole work. But again, I'm withholding any opinions on the psychic tiaras until that one anon finishes their proposal on the catalog and adventurers.

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>>28439335
century names are confusing...
So why would I ever choose for my country to be below average when my neighbors have better equipment they can obliterate me with? Beyond a couple highly thematic example nations, most are going to take 1750 average to mean 1850 is fine, as we've seen. Considering tech like trains and etc. has always been a no-go, it doesn't seem like the reps wanted that to be the case.
Also, I'm not seeing it in the vote archive which is strange.

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>>28439702
What are your reasons. I assume this is for your navy

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>>28439474
That's pretty hard to do, would the arrow be enhanced? Would it be the string? How exactly would chuubanite enhance the power of the arrow?
That's the mechanical issue, the other is that training people to use guns is still easier and cheaper, it's the main reason that guns became more prolific than bows.
I won't address the meta issue since I can't be assed to do it.

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>>28439816
Nijisanji is a pioneering company. 2d live, for example.

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>>28439474
I agree with the anons who said crossbows would be better for this just because it's both easier to explain and makes more sense as a weapon to train your whole army in. Otherwise, yeah, go for it.

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>>28439845
nta
In my opinion, an arrow would be the simplest way to go about that. Make the arrow tip into some sort of a thing where on impact a rod of activator substance is driven into a chuubanite disc or a rod, activating an effect
>>28439702
how advanced?

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>>28439900
this is about the 4chan threads not the chuubas or the companies. Primarily the nations should represent each thread.

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>>28439798
Because punk history means that an armored Lunaito can face an early tank on the battlefield and slash it open with his giant sword. Tech is more of an aesthetics/thematic decision than the absurdly impactful all-encompassing thing realism would make it.

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>>28439230
I would recommend a crossbow instead of a bow. Because high powered bows need arm guards to protect your arms from the whiplash of the bowstring. If you still want a bow then you will also need armor to protect yourself.

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>>28440014
Interesting… so tell me how that makes sense for who clocks and a card game…

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>>28440082
>card game

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>>28440082
what card game?

[Anonymous No.]

oh BTW I AM HOME GENTLEMEN AND XEXY BITCHES

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>>28440014
The people and culture should represent the thread, but it would be boring as hell if aesthetics and tech were limited by that.

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>>28440117
Idc what it is, none of these things are revolutionary things.

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>>28439845
doesn't matter, if the advanced tech nations got guns en masse than i should have my bow and arrows with chuubanite that are equal to it.
that is the point, if you go ahead now and say "actually no your magic cannot be equally good" then you are once again saying that magic is not allowed to be equal to technology.
sure it has its differences like guns beign easier to pick up and use whiel bow and arrows would not be able to jam ect but on the whole they are equal.

and if nations start pushing for trains and planes ect then i will smack some chuubanite on some carraige or davinciesque flying machien and i got my magical version of their tech.

this is what i have taken away form this and this is what i shall be going with from here on out

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>>28440028
So any interaction can be handwaved to go in any direction? Personally I'd like something a bit more grounded, but I guess I'm in the minority there.

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>>28439230
>>28438811
Alternatively you can make a one-man volley. Have the chuubanite circuit break up a large arrow into 10 arrows that scatter around the target.

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>>28440169
You are choosing to ignore all the anons telling you how that's perfectly fine and is allowed in favor of only responding to the one who wants to ruin your fun. Why?

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>>28440204
No you are not but I also only write war stories by myself for a reason.

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>>28440204
I am also a proponent of that, but the alternative doesnt have to be 100% ultra realism
punk history with an asterisk

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>>28440204
Well, yeah. Ultimately this is a writing project, not a world simulator. How interactions go comes down to agreement between the writers involved.

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>>28440299
To be clear, thats not my position either despite what some might think. I for example think the bow thing is fine

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>>28440204
More or less. That doesn't mean that there are no advantages and weaknesses, but rather just that you need to think of them in more abstract terms. Rather than trying to think of how thick Lunaito's armor is, how much it weights and what kind of steel it is made out of, you should simply consider him to be a "tanky melee combatant". Or, well, what simply makes for a better story.

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>>28440240
i am responding to the one that has said no because he is the one i need to say this to, not the ones that have said they agreed with this

and i ahve jsut overall said that this beign fien is what i have taken away from this and so i see no further need for me to argue this topic anymore because i know have the reassurance that if i feel the need to "euqal" it that it is fine

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>>28440014
Ok. Nta but interesting. Who actually meets the standards of having advanced tech on 4 chan threads?

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>>28440465
I guess science themed chuubas.

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>>28440506
No thats not the point i saw “threads not chuubas or companies” .

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>>28440169
Cool, that's not what I asked, how would you use chuubanite to make a stronger bow and arrow? Get a good reason or proposal and then do it.

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>>28440150
Oi Risuner
>>28440169
You're now changing your stance from coming up with an interesting way to combat higher tech to now using chuubanite to "magically solve the problem of power inequality" which nobody has been doing thus far. It's never been a rule that every nation is equal in power or that every nation is capable of the same feats, much the opposite, we had alot of discussions like this when it looked like /nasa/ and /risu/ might be going to war. /nasa/ is far more powerful than /risu/ in tech level however the sheer population of /risu/ has a good chance of overwhelming them with numbers, to boot, sanalites are limited in population and each loss hurts way more to them than it does to /risu/. Each nation acknowledges their own chuubanite's potential which is based around their chuuba and their general, by ignoring that and ignoring any actual formula to how a chuubanite bow might work or a chuubanite enhanced weapon or machine might work, it's going against the spirit of the thread in order to create lore that isn't fun nor creative. Nora.

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>>28440169
For a bullet fast arrow you're going to need: 1) an arrow that won't break at bullet speeds. 2) a bow that works with the bullet arrow to give it enough energy for bullet speed. And 3) an armpad that will protect your arm from the powerful bowstring needed to fire a bullet speed arrow. You can use chuubanite's ability to absorb and manipulate kinetic energy to create this weapon in my opinion. These are my ideas. I say go for it.

Also there's this idea as well: >>28440216 Making trick arrows could also be a way to fight off guns. Trick arrows also include exploding arrows, smoke arrows, or shale oil dipped fire arrows. You can say you use chuubanite to make trick arrows for utility.

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>>28440465
A thread filled to the brim with programmers and math enthusiasts running several spreadsheets to calculate the most optimal way to play. Or just create straight-up bot players. Pagi!

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>>28440465
Stirring the pot with this but nasfaqg, based on how much tech is discussed and how many bots and magic trading sheets are being made there

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>>28440770
So I guess this is nasfaq but that does not apply to Who nor Inf. Do you see the point here?

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stupid question but is scarification in fencing allowed even though it was more common in the 19th century?

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Word cloud for last thread.

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>>28438222
Imo thats fine as long as the fireball staff doesnt create energy and matter out of nowhere; ie requires fuel and doesnt work without oxygen.
>>28436686
>>28439745
Am here.
About to hit the hay after doing paperwork. Boring non-fiction paperwork.
My plan so far is to have the device only usable by 'catalognauts' in-universe. A common trope in fantastic genre. Lords, heroes, adventurers, jedi, etc.

1. They are people who are born/created in-tune with the catalog, the immaterial realm/ley line/dreamlands of /vt/ that delivers the conceptual energy to the physical vtubium itself. These people are able to use/ingest/absorb normally fatal amounts of vtubium and are sensitive of its energy. They are like walking batteries, receiving vtubium energy from the catalog.

2. Career-wise, they can be anything really, mages, scholars, assassins, spies, mercenaries, employing their talents to anyone in need of their services. As for allegiance, it's up to the guilds they register, the Jack of all trade merc corps of /vt/.

3. As these people are like receivers, they are able to also send messages through it. Using the catalog ley line to transmit thoughts with the communicators and only be able to picked up by other vtubium sensitive people using the device.

4. The communicators themselves are only handed out to seasoned members by the guild they work for and is only tuned to the same manufacturer.
A guild's communicator can only be used to contact other members of the same organization.
Imperial adventurers working for /hlgg/ can only communicate with other imperial adventurers.
Adventurers working for Babel in /wg/ can only communicate with other members.
Black Fleet magic Deadbeat mercs can only contact other Black Fleet members.
And so forth.

5. Communicators are meticulously crafted to match the brainwaves of its user, no two copies are the same. If a catalognaut slain another and tries to use their communicator, they will get vertigo, migraine, and possible brain damage. No espionage possible.

So for balance, communicators can only be used by
>Vtubium sensitive people tuned into the catalog
>Only among the same company
>Given only to seasoned members
>Personally and uniquely crafted to match the user

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>>28440947
Dueling scars are more of a cultural thing than a tech thing. If your nation has the history and culture to support it I don't see why not.

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>>28440860
Hmmmmmmmmmm……. So i guess they need to roll back like me then…

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>>28441032
Functionally they sound alot like the equivalent of the Allomancers in Mistborn, which I think would be pretty cool if applied to each general/

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>>28441032
Alright, I'm perfectly fine with this use of the psychic tiaras. They're not something that can be used by the wider populace even if they're reverse-engineered and are pretty much purely limited to rule of cool uses, as well as not being limited to use by one nation, so I don't mind them.

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>>28441152
Alice, if you want to push things, you have given your reason and since others are accepted for vaguer reasons, go ahead but dont go overboard

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>>28440716
first of all i have had retro chuubanite work on the principal of enhancing the characteristics of older stuff based on emotional attachment by having engravings to them filled with chuubanite or wired chuubanite worked into things long before this timeloop and it was never an issue before

and "fun" is very subjective, if for you like to come up with exact blueprints and materials needed as well as the way they have to be processed or come up with mathematic formulas with how much chuubanite is needed for such a feat and how long it would be effecient before the radiation has weakened it enough to not be worht it anymore then be my guest.

to me however that is not what i find fun and is not what i want to write about.

also the bow and arrow = gun thign was first and foremost used as an example because i thought it would be the easiest one to use to be udnerstandable to people

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>>28441152
how.
advanced.
do.
you.
want.
to.
be?

a lot depends on your answer to that

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>>28441361
Oh not yet, you fop. I am much interested in seeing how others justify

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>>28441476
Early 19th century naval tech and early explosive guns. Not steam. Not iron.

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>>28441032
>>28441160
same poster
I think the specific technology would still remain less universal as something everyone would use and more as somethins a select few elite ships, maybe our versions of dreadnoughts, would employ since these individuals sound really rare based on how powerful they are and losing a catalognaut would be a heavy hit, especially if alot has already been invested into the tech that only they can operate.

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>>28441597
>Dreadnought
You need to explain exactly what you mean by this.

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>>28441152
They are time and civilization. What are you? Just a bunch of JKs and other random shit. No offense but their chuubas have that reason

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>>28441763
>Omegatranny’s shitty lore justifies this but Nijisanji’s history doesnt
I am not tribalist but you a nigger

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>>28441438
The difference between that and a bow and arrow is that it sounds like retro chuubanite is already working off of an understood system and boosting its power, i'd assume its self limited by the capacity of power it can contain so that's no problem.
Having a bow and arrow create a reaction that's different from what you'd expect requires the bow, string, and arrow to be capable of sustaining the force of what you want to use, there are probably bow and arrow autist in the thread that would be willing to look into that but something like that cant be handwaved since people would call it out as not following the rules of basic physics like we all agreed chuubanite must do, which they did.

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>>28441539
what sort of explosive guns? have any real world examples?

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>>28441712
BEEG SHIP
(but like wooden probably)

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if i actually had to name an example of somethign i have been thinking about then it would be a spearthrower that uses more modern understandings of aerodynamics and the usage of chuubanite for both the thrower as well as spears to have them chuck lethal spears further than our ones could when they were still primitive weapons.

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>>28441986
Canon paixhans. 1822. Puckle gun

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>>28441984
please explain to me the basic physics of having a fireball be chugged out of a gemstone

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>>28442285

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>>28442116
ohh and please don't misudnerstand that these thigns are supposed to be on par with guns, they should just be better than the primtive ones we had

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>>28442285
Thats literally the entirety of the quantum physics proposal. I wrote it partly to justify a gem magic scene shown in one of /risu/'s stories

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>>28441160
ANOTHER COSMERE FAN!?
Finally! Someone who understands?

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>>28442312
>Loads square bullets
Nothing personal faggot

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>>28442434
My Brother! LET US EAT ROCKS TOGETHER AND FLY THROUGH THE NIGHT'S SKY

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>>28441763
This is an extremely dangerous game to play considering how many chuubas Niji has. They could justify literally anything if you want to start this with them.

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>>28442434
>>28442530
what just happened here?

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>>28442191
I dont personally see issues with those, but some others probably (in my opinion, wrongly) do

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>>28442370
yeah i am not gonna dabble in quantum physics ect just to jsutify to you guys why magical rocks embedded in my mace make the black powder isnide it go boom bigger. please explain these thigns to yourself then if you feel to

if i can handwave nations being way advanced to what is the average of the world then you guys can handwave some blanks in the details of how my stuff works too if you could explain gemmagic too.

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>>28442500
shitposting is everything

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>>28442652
They dont have time and civilization. Besides, none of their major talents are anything unique besides a vampire

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>>28442530
>>28441160
Lunabro, you can understand the /meat/head?

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>>28442777
that is quite literally why the quantum physics proposal exists, to justify hard to justify magics. Not just for /risu/, but for others too. So go ham, build that mace, just be reasonable about them.

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>>28442796
It is kid. Hehe
>>28442863
connard pédé

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>>28442689
The beginnings of a new alliance

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>>28442777
NTA, but people are trying to explain to you that yes, you are allowed to do exactly that. The hard science exists so that there's an explanation for why this shit works but it doesn't mean you have to come up with those explanations yourself. Others can help you do that, just like a bunch of anons suggested ways to make your gun arrows work.

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>>28442500
>makes specially crafted dick shaped bullets just for the irony of using them to fuck risuners

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(warning, the post below is only one sentence)
>>28441032
Sure, when I suggested magitek communication devices for reps to have to communicate with each other instantly, with each nation having just a single one and the only ones permitted to use them would be the rep and the members of their upper echelon (lore makers, map makers etc), in order to more accurately represent the communication we have in this general, instead of forcing agreements and transactions to account for the months/years worth of travel needed for meetings and such, it gets instantly shutdown and rejected, but when this anon suggests magic tiaras that serve the same purpose but are not limited to reps and instead can be used by the hundreds (the world has millions of people, even if they're rare, say 1 in a million, in a 500mil people world that's still 500 people) globally for trading, military, espionage uses, it gets accepted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28442863
>Ange
>Alchemist
>Mya
>Dragon tamer

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>>28443145
Personally I just don't want reps to exist with any real power in-universe. Why would every nation have a bunch of immortal autists sitting at a round table to decide everything for them?

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>>28443145
I refuse to actually self insert. Thats fucking retarded.

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>>28443308
yeah wtf? lets not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443145
Or maybe you know
Reps can hire magic messengers?

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>>28442925
>>28443055
maybe my ESL is too strong in this case but sometimes it sounds like contradicting statements.

in the explample i said to have bow and arrows be equal to guns, wich again is just an example and it felt to me that yes it would be possible but i need to fully explain why and how my chuubanite does this but now you say i don't have to explain it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443308
>>28443331
yes… i will not be cringr

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>>28443145
>>28443381
there there bro.
hugs you

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, there's a lot more to respond than I can physically cram into a post, but I'm back home so I can explain everything regarding /nasfaqg/ and tech.

First, a bit of a context for the initial proposal:
- 1750's were chosen as the 'average' tech era.
- Despite that, other threads commonly pushed their technology to 1820's, so 1800's became the de-facto 'average'.
- It was agreed upon that the tech levels are not realistic and that due to the punk historic-ness of the setting they are usually somewhat 'equalized' in terms of impact.
- It was right after the /infinity/ came out of isolation, which is why the disadvantages listed are, as some anon pointed out, "how does /nasfaqg/ stay together" Spoiler: It doesn't. It's essentially hundreds of corporation-states in a land called /nasfaqg/, it's as decentralized as something can be without calling it 'anarchy'.
- By that point, the tech has been shifted two times. At first, it was set roughly in 1450's. So, /nasfaqg/ has adopted a Venice-like aesthetic. Then, it was set in 1600's. So, /nasfaqg/ moved onto more Netherlands-like aesthetic and culture. The final tech shift was pushed for by /infinity/ and is the one that remains today, up to 1750's average tech. At that point, we've set our foot in the ground and just went for Victorian England aesthetics.
- Critically, REALLY CRITICALLY, you need to understand what NASFAQ is: it's a Hololive fan game that mimics the contemporary stock market and draws partially from modern /biz/ culture in terms of presentation. It's filled to the brim with coders, Excel spreadsheets, and bots. It has its own thread OC "loreposts", which are short stories set in /nasfaqg/, in which it often is portrayed as a cyberpunk corporate dystopia. If /nasfaqg/ could adopt any kind of aesthetic disregarding the rest of Vitubia, it'd be either a modern stock market or cyberpunk dystopia. We've only adapted those historical aethetics despite not making sense for what the thread or the game is as a compromise, focusing on the theme of "making money", which means trade.

It's an extremely fractured society which, in many ways, operates somewhat similar to how anarcho-capitalists /imagine/ their "state" would work (I completely disregard realism here, since I obviously don't support that IRL).

Now, the question is, "what makes /nasfaqg/ rich". Is it trade? Trade is good, but /nasfaqg/ doesn't collect strait tolls and follows the principles of free trade. Is it abundant natural resources? /nasfaqg/ has a raw resource deficit without many self-extracted resources - things like foods or materials are imported in. It's the processed goods and services that are imported out, a service-based economy. If there's no inherent advantage from location, no inherent advantage from resources, no inherent advantage from holding markets captive, then why would anyone buy anything from /nasfaqg/ over domestic companies? The answer simply has to be: those companies produce really good, unique products at high prices. They offer luxury goods and usually don't compete with local markets. They have some kind of know-how advantage that lets them turn profit.

In-lore, it's usually that a company specializes in /something/ that gives them the edge. It's not that the entire nation has everything futuristic, but rather that individual company-states hold a single distinguishing characteristic that they will paranoically guard until their deaths.

Now, seeing the state of the thread and that it has rubber-banded back to 1750's proper, I would say that the "1800 baseline, 1850 average, 1880 specialized" proposal is too much. It should be "1750 baseline, 1800 "average", 1880 specialized", and this I'll change without any further deliberation or explanation, since this is just correcting for the current state of the threads. Please note that "average" doesn't mean that the tech is widespread either, or that it's necessarily available on the consumer market.

This tech advancement is offset primarily by two things: lack of availability due to paranoia over letting it fall into the hands of others and how fractured and unwilling to cooperate /nasfaqg/ corporations generally are, with just about two exceptions of mega-mega conglomerates in the game.

Those aren't band-aid fixes. Those are literally calques of the thread culture.

To give Tripoint as an example: it specializes mostly in modelling using precision engineering, and financial theory. It leverages both of those things to a fraction of their potential since it keeps them both a secret: anything akin to an analytical engine would be kept a secret and closely guarded (and besides, I mostly meant for using them to solve calculus rather than being genuine programmable analogue computers).

The impact of that technology is curbed massively, and its leakage into the world is basically nonexistant due to the two factors outlined above.

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>>28443377
An explanation needs to exist. The explanation doesn't need to be something you, personally, come up with. You can just come into the thread and say "Hey I want to be able to do this with chuubanite," people will suggest to you how that's possible and you can just choose the one that sounds the best to you. Now you have your cool chuubanite thing, and you also have the explanation available if anyone asks you how your cool chuubanite thing works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443145
yeah no thanks but i don't want metagaming me versions in the world

[Anonymous No.]

Do I smell... lore discussions??
CONCEPTS CONCEPTS CONCEPTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>28442689
>>28442864
I guess you can say I've been doing my Hemalurgy reps

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>>28443377
The thing is
You can explain it if you want to, it would be cool to read
BUT
If you do not want to explain it, you can have someone else explain it, or invoke rule-of-cool + quantum physics proposal and maybe tap the sign >>28442312 for good measure

so, explain if you think it would be fun, do not if you dont think it would be fun

[Anonymous No.]

I've also ran out of characters, so I'll just focus on answering questions now, since I assume that some people will want to (completely fairly) repeat their arguments.

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>>28443565
Honest question. Does NASFAQ have 100 ships of the line

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do I make a /towa/ villain when all they do is just sit around and mutter "towa..." and "twapi..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443540
Fun fact...
/meat/'s Chuubanite tattoo is totally not a bootleg investiture hehehe

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443698
Make them a villain like towa is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443542
Its essentially really just this.
Everyone is going to pounce on something they think sounds game breaking so anything that does get utilized will either be explained by a thread autist or reinterpreted in a way that allows it to work

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>>28443452
i feel like this should have been the opener for chuubanite when new people come in and ask what it is before anything else. i feel personalyl this would have saved me so much more headaches and maybe actually made me want to make a cooler chuubanite right from the getgo.

>>28443434
what do you mean nasfaq is nto a thign you look it liek once every 2 weeks, buy some stonks and then have some passive money for betting when vtl for example rolls around. i am a bad company

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443540
I dont get what that means but if you do have any ideas please tell the class what kind of chuubanite system is meat anon proposing

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>>28443640
I have no clue how many /nasfaqg/ ships-of-the-line exist, and I don't feel like it should be realistically clarified, as their rep. It's like asking "how much ships does South America have"? I mean, there is /an/ answer, but it's completely irrelevant to what you intend to have it measure, which is military might.
You'll never interact with /nasfaqg/ as a whole, essentially. A company like Tripoint would have maybe 3 ships-of-the-line tops, one being a vanity flagship project and the latter two maybe qualifying as great frigates instead. Any corporate navy would likely run a lot of lighter vessels like sloops or frigates, so that's not an accurate measurement, either.
>>28443873
Anon... your active trading reps... Those measly 5% weekly dividend returns are SCREAMING for their 20% daily trading returns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443247
>>28443308
>>28443331
>>28443453
It doesn't have to be a self insert. Reps can be represented by the leaders of their nations eg I think the Kiara general claimed Kiara is their actual queen so she'd be the leader of their nation and thus have access to the device. Or another nation like nasa with Alex (I think was his name) having a representative to talk to the local leaders would use the device. It could be used by presidents, dictators, councils, parliaments, whatever system each thread uses to represent their leadership.
>>28443343
This can work, too, but that means each nation would have at least one catalognaut and that they would be locked exclusively for international communication somehow
Else, you need to accounting for all of these discussions taking place over multiple years, perhaps decades, just for the messengers to go from a nation to another carrying messages, many of which may just be "ur a faggit lol xx >t.haha".
If we're going through the trouble of using quantum physics to explain how chuubanite works, surely we can create a system with which communication between nations takes less time instead of just handwaving it, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443738
I can't believe I missed that!
I just hope the /meat/ lord ruler is as cool and nice as most /meat/heads and not the genocidy kind

[Anonymous No.]

>>28443873
Good thing I'm the one writing the new chuubanite doc and that is, in fact, the opener to the document.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444112
I don't want that either. Why do you want instant communication between nations so much, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444144
No worries
/meat/ is just paranoid about the apocalypse. we dont hurt people for the sake of evil.
Oh yeah, if you inderstand the Three Realms theory you can get the direction I am going for with the Catalog. It's like a mix of Cognitive and Spiritual
>>28444000
Anon, you have no idea how much autism this will take.

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>>28444045
i never actually planned to use nasfaq for real, jsut wanted to see what it is all about and then when betting got implemented i decided, hey why not have a little extra fun with vtl and stuff. and i am still in the top 650 wich makes me the king of the inactive accounts^^

>>28444198
if only you could have saved a younger me but i shall thank you jsu tas well

[Anonymous No.]

but we absolutly need to start documenting decisions and general infos ect. i feel a lot of issues also arrive from wrong perceiving of things. or misremembering of stuff by certain people

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444711
We do. The argument over risu's rainforests was a prime example of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444711
Absolutely. Especially since some systems have been put into place in the past, but they aren't used anymore, so there's a lot of confusion over them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444760
I was never told in the first place how that worked out

[Anonymous No.]

>>28444260
Because, anon, if we do not reduce communication times, deciding on a tech level and a specific year is pointless.
Say we start at 1730. A thread, passes, during which /nasa/ and /risu/ exchange 10 messages each. Assuming these were not done a single meeting and were instead sent through messengers on ships, that interaction would mean that 10 trips to and fro these nations would have to be made, which are halfway across the globe and would take multiple months each to complete, meaning that, in a single thread, 5 years may have passed just because they had this communication. Repeat this for any communication between nations far apart, and, accounting for all the threads so far since January/February, we'd be at least in the 19th century by now, if not even later.
Add onto this that /nasa/ had claimed in the past that they had been on the planet for only 6 months (closer to a year now), how the fuck would you explain them interacting with literally every other active nation, multiple times, establishing trade deals, alliances etc, even when they're across the globe?

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>>28444862
Why are you interpreting messages in the thread as IC communication? Holy shit, what a logistical nightmare.

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>>28444862
anon, we are not doing thread based flow of time.
that, and even ifwe would, out-of-universe and meta level discussion ( so everything that is not archived or is not a story) does not happen in-universe

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>>28444862
You knoe whats funny?
nasa and risu are very far apart, like Scandinavia to Indonesia.
Imagine this
A trip from Stockholm to Java
A 13 months journey
All to send a single message
"Me wan fug spacemen. t. Risuner"

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>>28441933
OK Alice, now you fucking crossed the line. Get my wife's name out your fucking mouth!

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>>28444835
Once again copy pasting >>20477566
I think it would be primarily divided into two somewhat similar climate types:
> Humid subtropical (Cfa): eastern coast
> Monsoon subtropical (Cwa): northern coast
There might be small patches of another climate types:
> Hot steppe (BSh): southern tip of western coast
Eastern coast is relatively simple: warm current from the tropics flow off shore of /risu/ until it reaches around /pol/ka, bringing warn and moist air to the land.
For western coast, normally the cold current flowing between /risu/ and /morig/ would bring cold (relatively speaking) and dry air to the western coast, giving it a hot steppe or even hot desert climate.
However, the size of holo continent means it will create a strong monsoon (probably the strongest on this planet), meaning that during summer the prevailing wind of southern and southeastern holo continent will turn to blowing inland, which has the result of giving those places a *very* wet summer. Because of that, most of the /risu/ closer to the continent proper will be wetter in summer and drier in winter.
As such, I think it makes sense that western coast of /risu/ will have a monsoon subtropical climate instead: raining like hell in summer, and dry as bone in winter. the southernmost part of /risu/ might be too far from the continent to have such a strong effect, though, which is why it might have an odd patch of different climate there.
As for the biome, following what /risu/ wants, it will likely be mostly tropical rainforest, although the sharp difference between wet and dry season means it likely won't be evergreen. Basically, during wet season, the forest will be lush with green trees. During dry season, though, many of these trees will lost their leaves to reduce water loss, which makes the floor of the forest more exposed to sunlight, where more arid-resistant shrubs will bloom before the trees grow their leaves again. While this applies to the whole area, evergreen will be more common in the east, while the west will be more seasonal, and the southern part might begin to see the woods getting sparser, although it might not be too obvious before reaching tropical rainforest in bakatare again.

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Good morning everyone. Did you guys enjoy your weekends?

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>>28445226
no

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>>28445226
hello! Nice to see you here! Tech timeloops, as usual, but this time caused by nasfaqg.

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>>28445298
why not...
>>28445342
Oh lmao. The eternal techloop...

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>>28445226
Good morning, anon. I'm in shambles because I realized this thread is a fucking landfill where important decisions and discussions go to be lost forever. We don't have docs detailing even so much as the Heavenly Realm > Vitubia hierarchy. I hate it here.

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>>28444000
>>28444381
I don't know if I'm prepared to pull out all of the charts for the in depth explanation of the Cosmere but politically to /vt/ it's like an entirely new faction of individuals that act as a mind of super mercenary, except as our flesh eating friend has stated, they'd be useful for alot more than just warfare, another good comparison are shadowrunners. You would hire one if you wanted a very discreet hit done or you would hire one for a secret trade deal that's been going on in between nations, or you could buy one for what I assume would be a GARGANTUAN sum of money. They'd be really fun to play around with if we implemented them.
also read Mistborn and Rythm of War

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Spotted you talking about Towa in my archive diving autism.
>>28438425
I wrote that ages ago about the topic for us to help get this thread started, but left because I didn't have the autism to maintain it here, I just wrote it for those interested in us in the future.
>>28443698
I wish I could help you on this front, but the closest thing we'd have to anything related to enemies would be the VSPO thread and we're perpetually in a love hate relationship with them. Otherwise, the thread is basically all unity posting lusting after those who are friends with her. Hopefully you'll work something out.

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>>28445226
It went pretty well but I still need to prepare and publish the Returns Report for /nasfaqg/... I've scripted and automated most of it away, but I also need to add new functionality to it...

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>>28445225
No I understand now. Wasnt until this was posted

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>>28445226
I’m currently full of love for my tiny rose wife.

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>>28445453
All these fools argue over how to do Chuubanite
while us enlightened Cosmerechads have it all figured out

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>>28445442
Oof. That's actually a valid concern. Maybe someone can put important discussions in a rentry and submit them to the anchor? Otherwise, I guess we just need to do archive reps...

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>>28445168
Cross the line? How about you tell your whore that he will never be a woman?

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>>28445442
Perhaps we should have a section of the doc dedicated solely to CONCEPTS and we anchor those. It shouldn't be too hard to look through the archives and fetch those posts, doompost not nijifren

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>>28445226
All I can think about is Sana's graduation.

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>>28445168
>waifuing Omega
youre not serious arent you?

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>>28445524
Good luck anon! Automated reporting... sounds really efficient.
>>28445581
Good! She's very cute. I'm very in love with my dumb doomer clock wife and my autistic shark daughterwife

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>>28445524
oooh what are we getting this time trisenpai i wont continue calling you that, dont worry.

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>>28445660
I've already offered to put together a "World of Vitubia" doc once I finish work on the new chuubanite doc, because I hate how incredibly difficult explaining this project, and subsequently the rules of the setting, to newcomers currently is. But >>28445723 sounds like a great stopgap measure in the meantime. Could someone else please organize that? There is a 0% chance I'lll get it done if it's left up to me, my hands are quite full as is.

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>>28445638
Simply built different, nanora!

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>>28445442
Looks like the lunaito and meathead figured out something for chuubanite development
>>28445638
>>28445453
Then tell us, O' enlightened ones

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>>28444953
>>28445026
Yes, obviously not every message in the thread is a conversation between nations etc, but things that are or could be interpreted as such, ie trade deals, war declarations, vote suggestions, invasions for gatherings, warnings, news of a certain region, communication to establish plans and logistics to build stuff like a road through and across /risu/ etc would require "in-game time", which is my point. If conversations and some agreements were able to be made over long distance, it would shorten the time necessary for such plans to take place
>logistical nightmare
This is exactly what I'm trying to avoid though, this matter keeps being handwaved.
While it is true we're doing speed of plot again, I want you to somehow explain to me how /nasa/ communicated with the rest of the nations in the little time they were here without the use of long-range devices.
Also the agreed upon year is 1120, following a past vote we've had, though the respective tech level to irl can be anything and the ers of around 1750 had been chosen iirc
>>28445032
Someone would definitely do that

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>>28445923
Once I am done eating lots of seafood, I will go archive delving and find as many concept posts as possible.
In the meantime, keywords to search and specific concept names would help.

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please let me sort the archive, i promise it will be an improvement, i just wanna do it so badly

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>>28445823
nta, but the rrat is that sana is omega

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>>28445948
built tiny, built so small, so cute…

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>>28446089
Make a copy of the document, organize it. Show us your organized version so we can decide which version is better.

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The only thing I figured out for /nasa/ chuubanite is how we can turn meteorite chuubanite into microplanet with a small gravitational pull. This was suppose to lead to a new generation of powered engines. But its time for us to leave.

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>>28446089
...you don't have some kind of library kink do you?

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>>28445864
It is. Here's the last RR, in case you want to see how it looks like usually.
>>/vt/thread/27896529#p27897495
>>28445869
Mutual Fund profits breakdown. Classic trading/investment/inflation/dividends.

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>>28446089
make a copy of the doc, organize it how you want, and if its decided that its better, i can just copypaste your changes to the doc

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>>28445723
>>28445923
>>28446078
This is a great idea. I wish I could help but I'm just busy all the time... I didn't even get to write about the fetish isles disappearing over the weekend

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>>28446076
To answer your question of how we communicated with other nations. We didn't. There were deadbeats in /who/ that /nasa/ made a deal with their companies as vendors for rations. The only nations we had direct contact with are /who/, /uuu/, and /rrat/. Risuners have just arrived but they were going to visit us as part of their expedition to /uuu/ and /who/.

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>>28446009
Ah fuck. You sure? This will open up a rabbithole.
>https://coppermind.net/wiki/Cognitive_Realm
I used this as the inspiration for the physical world and the Catalog
Which in turn is foundation for
>https://coppermind.net/wiki/Investiture
That perfectly welds paragraphanon's Conceptual theory, the vtubergods heavenly realm, chuuba magic quanta theory, and vtubium as a whole!

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>>28446141
built fierce, built militant, built pink!

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>>28446256
This is far beyond my understanding but I greatly respect the drive and dedication it takes to make and use something like this for a stock trading fan game

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>>28446451
The amount of concentrated autism in nasfaqg is genuinely impressive. And its not only sheets, its stuff like perfumes https://rentry.org/674vg too

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>>28445793
I'm sorry to hear about that... I can't imagine being in that position, even just Coco's graduation broke me but she wasn't even my oshi. I'm sorry for your loss.

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>>28446451
Everyday I am reminded that the autism contained in nasafqg has produced more content in the brief period of /vt/'s existance than several board have in their entire existence

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>>28445470
Ahh, if you need to get in contact with me past this current thread to ask anything about the /towa/ thread, just mention me specifying shit about towa and I'll find you in the archives, risuner dude. I'll try and help out a little bit for you, but I'm not the most creatively inclined. Or ask one of the /nasfaqg/ people, they know who I am.
Glad to see this thread is doing well though.

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>>28446723
We are technically the unholy child made from nasfaqg and /wg/ autism

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>>28446683
What.
>>28446723
It's admirable! Sometimes you look at your works even if others think it's strange, and you feel proud from it. That's me and the Kronie fic archive.

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>>28446390
I open up one of those links and was met with a million jargon that I absolutely have no idea means

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>>28445712
He doesn't have to be :D

>>28445823
I am. It's a waste of godtier design and if s/he was a chuuba, I would be mating pressing that shit harder than bbrats do Bae atm.

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>>28447062
that post is my justification for why i want nasfaqg to export perfumes and other things like scented oils and incense

[Anonymous No.]

>>28447108
It aint called a rabbit hole for no reason!

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>>28446451
You can understand anything if you put your mind to it.

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This is the most fun thread on this board
I love you dorks!

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>>28446700
I'll live I guess. I have enough material to write for a month or two before I quit.

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>>28445565
It was supposed to be a suggestion I made to the risuner, and I did tell them that they're free to discard anything unwanted in it since I understand not all countries are given a desirable climate. As such, I never meant to archive this part and was counting on the risuners to integrate it in their lore after making the desired modifications.

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>>28447550
OH you should see us when we push all this tedious world building aside and just relax and hornypost the entire thread. It's wonderful!

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>>28446946
.. yeah,and a lot of /meat/ autism

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>>28447247
>Check it out, the finest perfumes from NASFAQG
>Those nationless people and corporate overlords?
>Yeah but they make damn good perfume.

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>>28447705
That sounds pretty cringe, I personally would never do such a thing.

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>>28447550
Love you too, anon!
>>28447635
We'll miss you, anon