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28404251 No.28404251 [Reply] [Original]

i know you guys are mad, and rightfully so, but i dont think she meant "if you dont like collab with males you are a loser and should ge better"

ame is a loveable angel that really loves her fanbase very much, we're scared of the changes that starsEN might bring and are a bit jumpy

i think what she mean was " trust me that it will all be fine, dont worry about it, worry about something else"

anyway, i just wanted to say that i love ame and, despite everything, i love you guys here in /vt/.

i hope ame is right and all our angst will fade away soon

ps: i dont think shell want to collab with them anyway

>> No.28404537

However bad you think a woman sounded when she said something, just know that she meant worse. Take that lesson with you through life.

>> No.28404640

>>28404251
Yes and no. She definitely went to far basically throwing shit at people that don't want male collabs.
She wanted assure her audience that everything will be ok, but she fucked up.

>> No.28404733
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>>28404251
All women are whores.

>> No.28404757

>>28404251
>you guys
>ours
Gaslighting 101 ?

>> No.28404793

More like Amelia Whoreson

>> No.28404885

Ame has been a bit of a cunt since day 1 anon

>> No.28404975

>>28404251
I'm not in a parasocial relationship with a fake anime girl, but this still bothered me for a different reason. It just came off as incredibly entitled of her to take an issue that she knows a lot of her fans DO care about and openly mock them for it. Then telling them to go be productive and improve themselves... Is there even another way to spin that other than her telling them to fuck off and stop watching her if they don't like it? I'm not saying she should or shouldn't collab with men because I personally don't give a fuck. I'm just saying that she should have had a more sincere dialogue with the people that pay her bills instead of treating them like children who aren't worthy of her respect. This isn't findom, or at least it shouldn't be.

>> No.28404993

>>28404251
i don't know, anon. you seem kind but that just sounds like a cope to me

>> No.28405038

>>28404251
OP is fucking writing his fanfic

Ame asked Teamates to do 3 things:
1) Stop spending time on Ame (still give her money though, Ame loves money)
2) Be productive
3) Grow yourself

>> No.28405185

>>28404640
no doubt about that, but i cant believe she think her fanbase are a bunch of losers that should work on themselves, it was just a very poor choice of words

>> No.28405338

>>28404757
bruh i keep seeing this fucking word over and over but still dont know what it means

>> No.28405430

>>28405185
There was no anger directed at her before she said it. She didn't say it in the heat of the moment to hurt people despite not really meaning it. She just said what she thought without running it through a mental filter like people usually do. Whether it was intentional or not is open for debate, but it wouldn't have even come to her mind to say it if she didn't believe it.

>> No.28405449

>>28404975
i feel the same, it was so out of character for her to say shit like that, maybe im coping but I cant believe she thinks like that for real

>> No.28405549

>>28405185
>it was just a very poor choice of words
It was Ame's thoughts too.

>> No.28405568

>>28404993
yeah, maybe i am

>> No.28405604

>>28404251
nobody's rightfully mad about anything, people are just fucking crybabies

>> No.28405638

>>28405430
People are most honest when they don't run their words through a mental filter, especially "entertainers" and "celebrities."

>> No.28405684

>>28404251
OP is worrywort.
Not a single Teamate will leave Ame for this.
Because Teamate has no dignity at all.

>> No.28405695

qrd?

>> No.28405746

>>28404251
Does that mean you'll hit the gym and improve yourself like she suggested or are you just cherry picking statements here?

>> No.28405759

>>28405638
Yea, Ame is definitely honest about this.

>> No.28405811

nice cope losers

>> No.28405883

>>28404251
I was a gosling for her but it's obvious Ame hates parasocial fans so i'm not one anymore. I'm still a fan of her content but i can't take that stab in the chest.
I've been looking for vtubers who does gfe, any good recommendations?

>> No.28405910

>>28404251
No shit she didn't mean it like that, but she should have thought about what she was saying, right now when her schizo fans are hurting.
They may be schizos but they're HER schizos

>> No.28405956

>>28405338
it basically means a type of lie that's meant to make people doubt their own experience/sanity. in this case it's not actually gaslighting it's just falseflagging that anon is doing.

>> No.28406208

>>28405695
30:32 if the timestamp link doesn't work for whatever reason. She just completely went off on her fanbase unprovoked.
https://youtu.be/FJ0CDB8qfzI?t=1832

>> No.28406494

OP needs to grow himself.

>> No.28406622

>>28406208
This is it? I expected some kind of drama and it's just... this

>> No.28406668

>>28406622
Oh boy, is it time for the
>nothingburger, nothingburger, nothingburger
psy-op spam? That's always my favorite part.

>> No.28407245

>>28405883
They're not HER schizos though. At best it's 3 people who struggle to function in society. Mostly likely children. The rest are greys who don't even watch her and have only commented once on her channel. Her actual fans and viewers literally don't care to engage in the melodrama because they actually watched the stream and understood her answer without the need to skew it into something it wasn't.

>> No.28407346

>>28406622
No anon, what she said is... is... LE BAD. Why? Because it just is okay!

>> No.28407361

>>28407245
desu this sounds like you've been browbeaten so often and for so long that you just accept whatever she says and come up with alternative meanings to cope

>> No.28407424

>>28406494
Only if OP is an AmeBeliever, but he isn't.

>> No.28407611

>>28404251
Anyone who takes their own fans and supporters for granted and shits on them deserves to fail as far as I'm concerned. She'd be nowhere without them, but streamers are too narcissistic to understand that.

>> No.28407832

>>28407611
>She'd be nowhere without them
True but Ame is famous now. She no longer needs Teamates who doesn't agree with all her actions. They can just fuck off can grow themselves.

>> No.28407914

Teakeks...

>> No.28407955

>>28407611
Its even weirder when its those who started off as literal nobodies before getting this massive boost. I'd understand if Gura had a chip on her shoulder since she had a mil subs even before going holo, but Ame? She was barely a 2 view.

>> No.28408288

>>28407955
>I'd understand if Gura had a chip
>but Ame? She was barely a 2 view.
Fame don't change people, it just shows who they really are.

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>>28404251
I said this on a purged thread and I'll say it again.

>> No.28408737

>>28404251
>ame is a loveable angel that really loves her fanbase
she only loves your wallets

>> No.28409088

>>28408737
But she turns off superchats all the time.

>> No.28409148

>>28404975
I'll admit I have a huge crush on this girl, but I'm grounded in the understanding nothing will ever come of it and that I'm just enjoying some kayfabe or whatever for the time it lasts.
She handled the first question fine and was pretty much what I expected. But then she doubled back to it for some reason, maybe she felt she didn't drive the point home properly, but yeah she ended up coming off a little more rough about it.
Shit, I agree with the notion of if something makes you happy then use it as fuel to better yourself, but the way she delivered was off. And the addition of trying to compare 6,000 male viewers to being somehow relatable was just dumb and didn't help.
I don't consider Ame dumb, or at least not in these regards, so either genuine resentment slipped out a bit or she just fumbled what she was trying to say. I don't actually know her of course, but I've known of and watched her for 2 years and I've heard the way others talk about her which leads me to be confident in my understanding that she's a very kind person and would be to people even if she disliked them. I think she just got flustered in trying to not upset anyone and play both sides. Idk man, I don't think I even said anything just now.
tldr I got my feewings hurt by an anime girl and I didn't even think I was in a position for that to happen.

>> No.28409376

>>28404251
All of Myth except Kiara despise their fans. It's always been obvious

>> No.28409563

>>28409376
>except
Except no one.

>> No.28409641

>>28409088
Stupid bitch

>> No.28409777

Ame making a controversial statement and acknowledging collabs with men to take all the heat off her friends...
True chad

>> No.28409964

>>28407346
No anon, what she said is... is... LE GOOD. Why? Because it just is okay!

>> No.28410079

The only reason people are this upset is because she hit the nail on the head.

>> No.28410586
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28410586

>work 60 hours a week
>use what little free time I have to try and enjoy myself
>my enjoyment suddenly tells me I'm not working hard enough
I'm very sorry, miss millionaire who "works" 10 hours a week. I'll make sure to do some overtime.

>> No.28410692

>>28409148
Tell her that and see if she deletes it

>> No.28410871

>>28407361
desu this sounds like you didn't even read my post

>> No.28410876

>>28410586
This. I don't really care about the rest of what she said but telling wagies to work harder when you're literally a sheltered princess gaining money and adoration for existing a few hours a week is enough to drive a man insane.

>> No.28411028

>>28407955
>she had a mil subs even before going holo
Not exactly. Please do your reps before writing false statements.

>> No.28411146

>>28410586
Bro I have problems with the following too, but that statement was not directed at you, dont take it personally as you are not one of those people that are fuming (because they dont want to hear something that applies to them)

>> No.28411162

>>28410871
>Her actual fans and viewers literally don't care to engage in the melodrama because they actually watched the stream and understood her answer without the need to skew it into something it wasn't.
>you just accept whatever she says and come up with alternative meanings to cope
because
>you've been browbeaten so often and for so long

>> No.28411259

>>28410871
NTA but your other post sounded an awful lot like "Sure she said that, but what she actually meant was *insert something entirely the opposite here*." You "understood" her to say what you wanted to hear instead of the words that came out of her mouth. She's got you trained like a dog. Don't forget to send her more money while she berates you and tells you that you aren't good enough if you don't like every single piece of content she puts out.

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>>28408737
>she only loves your wallets
Indeed. She only loves the money. That's why she turns off her superchats on a regular basis, releases comparatively inexpensive merch and even advises people to spend their 5 bucks on something else while she goes on a breaks. Yeah, if all that spells anything to me it's "MONEY GRABBER".

>> No.28411310

>>28411146
Sure it's directed at me. I'm one of the people that don't want to watch her flirt with dudes.

>> No.28411382

>>28411146
lmao I guess I'm the nigger. I can't even watch the "redpilled" chuuba without getting told to educate myself.

>> No.28411393

>>28410876
steamers are all like this for some reason. even someone like hasan claims to be working class despite having millions of dollars and only hanging out with filthy rich elites, while calling truck drivers and farmers bourgeois. streaming just breaks something in their heads and i think it has to do with the fact that they can say or do literally ANYTHING and the yes-men will validate them regardless with kind words or donations. this will skew their perception of reality and create an ego that tells them they're always in the right.

>> No.28411426

>>28411310
>my enjoyment suddenly tells me I'm not working hard enough
Make up your mind about what youre mad about, then.

>> No.28411482

>>28411426
Are you retarded or something?

>> No.28411559

>>28410586
This is largely why I can't stand watching streamers in general anymore. Being told repeatedly how worthless, lazy and ungrateful I am by people who made $10m+ in donations from underage kids and the mentally ill loses its novelty after a while.

>> No.28411609

>>28411162
Watching a stream =/= coming up with alternative meanings to cope. Reading poorly paraphrased posts on here, which containing phrases she hasn't even said and then making a judgement off of that IS literally coming up with alternative meanings to cope.

>> No.28411620

>>28411382
Ngl im a bit retarded sometimes but how am i telling you to get educated, i dont understand how one would take offence when someone tells you to stop being a lazy neet when you work for a living

>> No.28411679

Christ you faggots are so sensitive. Getting your feelings hort by an anime girl because she told you to fuck off

>> No.28411702

>>28411482
You do realize i cant read your mind through text, right? We use words unambiguously to transmit thoughts and ideas.

>> No.28411767

>>28411620
Think he was equating Ame's tangent with Finana's. Which isn't even wrong considering they both had a holier than thou attitude about it. Some people just think their shit don't stink. Unfortunately for her, she isn't an idol. So it does.

>> No.28411818

>>28411559
I'm glad my oshi only ever asks that her viewers be happy with whatever they choose, even if it's being a hikiNEET, and tries her best to make that a reality for 5 to 8 hours a day.

>> No.28411825

>>28404251
>ame is a loveable angel
Ame is an asshole, always has been. That's why the dickless Teakeks like her.

>> No.28411848

I thought she is different but at core she is just like every other western streamer

>> No.28411874

>>28411146
The fanbase is a collective, they shouldn't let their oshi play the politican and turn them against each other.

>> No.28411956

>>28405185
if they work on themselves, they're not gonna have time to watch her streams.

>> No.28412642

>>28411848
people say this every time and then fall into the next pitfall.

>> No.28412726

>catches up on VOD
>she answered the question respectfully and her comment about improving yourself wasn't aimed at the person asking it
Leave it to you schizos to find something to be butt hurt about every week.

>> No.28412858

>>28410586
This is a good point I didn't really consider.
I went from neet to cryptofag out of mostly luck and never had a real job. Similarly Ame went from neet streamer to rich streamer and never had a real job either. I only bring up myself because if I didn't think of this perspective until right now then it wouldn't surprise me if Ame hasn't. I even agreed with the sentiment of "if Ame makes you happy then improve yourself lol".
I can understand a bit better the feeling of bitterness from hearing her say that now.
Neither Ame nor I had particularly great childhoods, shit I was a teenager when my parents went bankrupt and we had to move across the country away from everything with only what we could fit in a moving van, but we both lucked out on skipping the whole wageslave part of life and that's definitely created a disconnect between us and a lot of people. Like I can say yeah that sucks having to work but I don't know how it actually feels.
Sorry, I didn't mean to make it about me it just really got me thinking and made me realize Ame could very likely be in the same mindset.

>> No.28414262

>>28412726
>she answered the question respectfully
Sure anon. She respectfully went full whiny gremlin and told anyone that had a problem with it to go be productive(implying they aren't), and to go improve themselves(implying they aren't good enough).Then equated spending 1-on-1 time with someone to talking to an audience of 6,000 people. A completely facetious argument.
This isn't even a matter of her collabing with men for me. I don't care about that, but I know other people do care strongly. Her "answer" an incredibly disrespectful display. For her to completely brush off the feelings of her fans, the people that made her who she is and pay for her overpriced gluten-free food, as if it wasn't worth an honest discussion just screams entitlement. If she can't show respect to the people she depends on, then why is she worthy of respect herself?
>her comment about improving yourself wasn't aimed at the person asking it
This is completely irrelevant. It WAS aimed at the portion of fans that have a problem with her doing it. Those are still grown men that deserve the same basic respect any other human being who hasn't actively harmed you does. She couldn't be bothered to grant them that because she doesn't care. They are all whiny babies in her eyes and yesterday she let it be known.

>> No.28414323

are you retards writing fucking essays about this?
either drop her or watch her. nobody wants to read your life story on /vt/ when they could shitpost instead

>> No.28414456

>>28414323
>nobody wants to read your life story on /vt/
It's at least more entertaining than listening retarded American whore insulting you.

>> No.28414683

>>28404975
If you freak out over the anime girl you watch play video games badly having a collab with male members of the same company you are a completely retard loser. Nobody should back up on this because some of the people around here arent actually pretending to be weeaboo unicorns and are actually mentally ill retards trying to be "More Japanese" and they really REALLY need to told how fucking stupid they are being

>> No.28414773

>>28412726
>Leave it to you schizos to find something to be butt hurt about every week.
Don't be so salty. This drama is actually a good thing desu. Ame put her foot in her mouth and caused strife within her own community so now other girls are going to look at this mess and think to themselves "fuck no I won't even consider collabing with Tempus it's too controversial". Now hopefully Ame will reflect on her fuckup and smooth things over. That way everyone wins.

>> No.28415034

>>28414683
You're really sheltered. A lot of people got here by being piled on for years, its less that it's just an anime girl, but it's even an anime girl piling on. The only reason they are here is because vtubers weren't just whores with avatars. You'd have to be the autistic neet that ame thinks she's talking to, to not see that there is an implicit transaction women and men interact.

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>>28404251
Bright dyed hair and obnoxious clothes! Thinks communism is the way to go. She's a whore, a hole, a dime-a-dozen Jezebel!

>> No.28415143

>>28414773
>Now hopefully Ame will reflect on her fuckup
Maybe she could improve her life a bit.

>> No.28415244

>>28414262
>They are all whiny babies in her eyes and yesterday she let it be known.
Yeah, they are. They're upset about her *potentially* collabing with males. That's mental illness.

>> No.28415468

>>28414683
>All the people disagreeing with me are mentally ill
What a great argument, white knight.

>> No.28415573

She has been streaming for years, her poor attitude and unjustified pretentious condescension is insulting at this point.

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>>28406622
>>28406668
T H I S .

mother fucking this. this. all the time.

>> No.28416325

>>28415244
Ame thought they have mental illness too
Hence the self improve.
But she forgets it takes mental illness to simp for vtubers in the first place

>> No.28416379

>>28414773
>strife within her own community
>too controversial
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's like five fucking schizos /here/ who thinks her answer was even remotely controversial. You're fucking delusional.

>> No.28416518

>>28416379
Probably the same five that tanked bae's incline and ending up neutering council as a whole.

>> No.28416718

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAN5CDkeR4U

>> No.28416862

>>28414683
>whining about other people whining about muh anime gorls
>calls people a completely retarded loser

>> No.28416929

>>28404251
I just wanted to watch cute girls doing cute things. I'm not going to shit on Ame, I'm just not going to watch her or the other EN

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