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28339959 No.28339959 [Reply] [Original]

The question was essentially: Do you think the content on your channel and the other girls' channels will change? (Basically, "hey, will you be collabing with dudes?)

Ame's answer was: "Most of the girls normally stream alone anyway so, although we might do some group collabs sometimes, things will largely stay the same. And, I know some of you might be like "but Ame why are you talking to guys????" Maybe you should use those feelings and be productive and grow yourself!"

What are our thoughts on this?

>> No.28340108

>>28339959 (Me)
Keep in mind, she literally just said this so I paraphrased it. She also just said "I like being part of Hololive, supporting Hololive, and flying the Hololive flag" so, she just also confirmed she's not going anywhere.

>> No.28340235

Amelia is based AF.
anyone in chat saying "Dont collab with males" BTFO

>> No.28340263

>>28339959
This can't be happening holobros. You told me they would be kept separate.

>> No.28340285

Imagine watching hololive in 2022

>> No.28340362

Oh boy. Teakek meltdown incoming.

>> No.28340372

>>28340263
Cover know boxing the males in a small bubble like the rest of holostars is suicide especially with NijiEN.

However they should be allowing holo/niji collabs regardless, especially since nijis don't give a fuck about idol bullshit. But they need to allow the girls the same so pomu and kiara can happen too.

>> No.28340429

The answer she gave (the one on stream not the paraphrased one given by OP) felt deliberately formulated to piss off both homobeggars and unicorns.

>> No.28340438

>>28339959
In 6 months time she will be calling you parasocial fucks if you get upset.

>> No.28340495

>>28339959
Several girls already collab with Stars anyway. The Bae & Roberu collabs are hilarious.

>> No.28340504

>>28339959
Sounds like she's confirming people's fears. The fans are second-class citizens next to streamers.

>> No.28340525

She's not wrong

>> No.28340563

>>28339959
she is looking for a partner
you cant blame her, her clock is ticking

>> No.28340567

I think it's pretty much over by this point. There's no reason to watch HoloEN.

>> No.28340565

>>28340429
She pretty much said "fuck you schizos" in the nicest way possible.

>> No.28340627

she's so based

>> No.28340633

>>28339959
Anyone who didn't expect Ame to be supportive of the new branch has never watched Ame to begin with.

>> No.28340671

>>28340429
yeah, she brought up the stream watcher count and just made their argument a huge joke
"No! don't talk to boys!"
"But i'm talking to almost 6000 boys right now!"

Unicorns go away, we only want fun streams and happy talents. get outta here with that shit.

>> No.28340677

>>28339959
Change cope, the fact that she is defending the males means things will never be the same, guys haven't even joined and these girls are already offending their fanbases

>> No.28340678

>>28339959
>Maybe you should use those feelings and be productive and grow yourself!"
What exactly was meant by this?

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>>28339959
>And, I know some of you might be like "but Ame why are you talking to guys????" Maybe you should use those feelings and be productive and grow yourself!"
the absolute state of western vtubers rumao

>> No.28340745

>>28340678
she's telling you to use that energy to start schizoposting in anon forums, anon

>> No.28340757

She confirmed she won't do 1:1 collabs
and said "maybe" for corporate mandated group collabs

>> No.28340761

based Ame

>> No.28340841

>>28339959
basicaly trying to resure both side at the same time, good move, maybe the condamnation at the end was unecessary though, virtue signaly folk are going to be a pain because of that.

>> No.28340883

>>28340678
That you should educate yourself (in sugar coated words).

>> No.28340917

>>28340678
She means "if you're jealous of us for talking to guys use that energy to go work out, get a job, make a better life"

Which, of course, is going to be lost on 99% of the people she's saying that to.

>> No.28340956

>>28340686
Is there even anyone surprised that all 11 of them are whores?

>> No.28340961

I'm disappointed she confirmed she won't do 1 on 1 collabs with them

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>>28340678
>stop enjoying things
>start working for the amusement of others
Same thing as usual.

>> No.28341036

>>28339959
it's funny, I seem to recall Ame gave into schizo goslings and stopping talking to Astel on Twitter / showing up in his chat while Astel was the one to say basically what she said here to his uppity unicorns. it seems a little late to flip flop now.

>> No.28341041

>>28340671
>"But i'm talking to almost 6000 boys right now!"
All me

>> No.28341081

>>28341002
What?

>> No.28341091

>maybe you should be productive
Yep the homos are guys that are productive enough to be in Ame's presence while chat members are second class citizens in her priority, Ame streams will be the same sensation of watching a couple hang out while she ignores the chat

>> No.28341097

Ame is fucking shit

>> No.28341114

>>28340429
It was toward the schizos from twitter and /here/
Whether it be homefags or unicorns, the main message is simple, "let me do my shut and have fun"

>> No.28341137

>>28339959
well, that confirms it. Goodbye HoloEN, I'll watch JP and mid corps

>> No.28341140

>>28340917
They are already watching a vtuber, she doesn't need to tell them to be productive, it's a straight out insult

>> No.28341150

>>28339959
based ame telling the basement dwellers to go outside, start lifting, and get girls. sasuga inspirational idol

>> No.28341171

>>28340917
>use that energy to go work out, get a job, make a better life
This applies to anyone watching a stream though, not just unicorns

>> No.28341173

I'm so disappointed she won't do collabs with them and will only do this corporate mandated bullshit if they ask her

>> No.28341175

>>28341036
I don't really think this is much of a flip flop though. Especially since she confirmed she won't be doing 1 on 1 collabs with the guys.

This is more so like "hey, if Cover wants us to do this, we will. Leave us alone."

>> No.28341174

>>28341137
JPs collab with males too though.

>> No.28341177 [DELETED] 

>>28341114
Ame is more based than I thought possible

>> No.28341183
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>>28339959
No refunds teakeks!

>> No.28341202

wooo

>> No.28341263
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Lol this reminds me of the one "Foot-in-the-door" strategy, Basically it's a negotiation strat on how you can get someone to agree on something they might originally he opposed to.
A company wanted to put a big billboard sign on a resident area for a product they're selling or something, but when asked the resident of that area if they would be opposed to putting the billboard the majority of them would say yes.
But if you first start off with smaller requests such as putting small signs on the yards/windows most people wouldn't have a problem with that. Which eventually leads up to the company once again asking if they can put the big billboard sign and for some reason at that point people wouldn't be opposed to it.
Basically I can see male collabs not happening at the beginning, but then one of the girls might talk about it and test the waters to see how her chat reacts, then they'll so the Collab, then if it goes well other Hololive member will do the same, and just lead it up until people grow comfortable enough that HoloEN collabs aren't seen as a weird topic.

>> No.28341270
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>>28340917
If the argument is "stop watching English speaking vtubers" it seems like good advice right now
Do something productive like Japanese reps
Let's go back to /jp/, like it was always meant to be

>> No.28341278 [DELETED] 

>>28341183
Why would I refund, she's right

>> No.28341292

>>28340678
Shes saying that people that watch vTubers are losers. Mustve been talking to Ina

>> No.28341306

>>28341137
>jp
Who's going to tell this anon?

>> No.28341318

>>28340678
>>28340686
>>28340883
>>28340956
Please See
>>28340917

use your autist energy to stop being lazy and retarded and upset some girl wants to talk with someone that isn't you lmao
Ame is based.

>> No.28341328

>>28341175
There are better ways to say that, it's really out of ame's character, thought it was ina

>> No.28341358

She was extremely dodgy.
The only thing she confirmed is that she won't do one-on-one collabs with them and "maybe" group collabs if hololive tells her to

>> No.28341376

>>28341041
>All me
She meant 6000 individual boys, not one 6000 pound boy.

>> No.28341393

>>28341137
not the ones i watch

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>>28341002

>> No.28341428

>>28341002
It’s the exact opposite you retard.
>stop hating on things
>start working on your own enjoyment of life

>> No.28341433

>>28341328
Maybe, but also just saying "we'll only collab if Cover wants us to" could cast unnecessary shade on the guys.

It's just a hard thing to talk about without pissing people off.

>> No.28341508

I have been subscribed to her since debut but now was to to leave. It was fun while it lasted.

>> No.28341509

>>28341041
Fuck you, it's all me because I'm fat as fuck.

>> No.28341541

>>28340429
Because the vast majority of her audience (and probably /here/) just want them to not do so much of it that it turns into NijiEN. As long as it doesn’t happen that much and the people who don’t give a shit about Stars don’t have to worry about seeing them everywhere in the girls’ streams, we don’t care

>> No.28341552

>>28341174
not the ones i watch. Most of them don't.

>> No.28341576

>>28341318
This applies to everyone watching a stream anon
>n-no I'm not an autist for watching 5 hours of a girl pretending to be a png
You're all on the same boat, only clipGODS can enjoy vtubers and be productive at the same time

>> No.28341608

Ame's going to do 1-on-1 collabs with the males that are as unwatchable as Bae and Roberu collabs and you losers just need to get over it

>> No.28341607

>>28341541
Yep, and it sounds like that's exactly how it's going to be. The latter, as in, it won't turn into NijiEN, even if they do collab at times.

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>>28341508
Don't let the door hit you on the way out

>> No.28341644

>>28341428
If everyone did that then nobody would be watching Hololive. What, does she honestly think people tune in to watch women play APEX poorly for the entertainment value alone? Hololive viewers are down bad

>> No.28341650

>>28339959
Its...its ok. I'm resigned to it. I have been living my life moving from one thing to the next like a nomad. This was a fun stop but I guess its time to move on. Never really felt like I belonged anywhere and that's never going to change. I was naive to think it would.

>> No.28341655
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>>28341263
yet, Holobans on collabs during the first month still apply. By then no one will care.
The homos are going to flop just like the Jap branch. They can't offer anything that Nijisanji already doesn't and they are going to keep pumping male gens like no tomorrow, plus they have no china to bail them out.
The sad reality is that there was never room for male western vtubers and they are about to find out most people pushing for male Holos don't watch Hololive.

>> No.28341662

>>28341552
Don't bother, EN threadreaders don't watch JP.

>> No.28341675

>>28341433
Who is she going to piss off by saying show won't be collabing with males? Lmao delusional

>> No.28341676

>>28339959
>What are our thoughts on this?
Unicorns need to fucking kill themselves.

>> No.28341677

>>28341576
Anon, I (and many others) work from home and I watch vtubers on second tabs while I do.

It's not impossible to be a productive human being AND support your oshis.

>> No.28341683

>>28341428
>watching thing I like
>thing I like changes into thing I don't like
>thing tells me to get a job if I don't like it
Go fuck yourself Ame.

>> No.28341692

>>28339959
We're seeing it happening in real time. HoloEn turning into 2views after all unicorns leave.

>> No.28341695

>>28341608
She quite literally said she won't do 1-on-1 collabs
Its the only thing this retarded bitch confirmed

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>>28341174
>>28341306
Koyori even refuses to catch male Pokemon anon

>> No.28341737

>>28341576
Exactly why I don’t watch streams anymore. Either I get better at listening to a stream on the background without sacrificing my productivity, or I stop bothering and just watch streams.
And my attention span is too short to do that, so fuck that, my views are going to clippers

>> No.28341750

>>28341722
based

>> No.28341752

>>28341270
Lmao based, thanks for the advise ame

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>>28341692

>> No.28341813

>>28341270
Based.

>> No.28341841

>>28340917
That also means stop watching her.

>> No.28341842

>>28341655
Cope, flop or not, sooner or later they will collab

>> No.28341844

I hate stars beggars so much christ. Fucking Redditors fuck off. You already have 99% of streamers out there doing the same thing, why do the remaining 1% also have to become like them?

>> No.28341849

>>28341644
>Hololive viewers are down bad
Yeah, but it doesn’t have to be that way forever. That’s why the girls (occasionally)encourage you to be better and do your reps, etc. Because they care about you or at least rehabilitating you, somehwat.

>> No.28341853

>>28341552
this, and more importantly, most of them certainly don't have the attitude of "if you have a problem with me talking to non-fan boys, you should maybe go out and touch grass"
It's the attitude that hurts me

>> No.28341914

>>28339959
Ame is great and completely correct is what my thoughts are on this.

>> No.28341921

>>28341655
> bans collabs in the first month in order to make the stars prove they can make their own content without leeching
> this is a key factor in holostars having trouble growing
This is such a based way to keep Hololive from being like NijiEN without actual gender discrimination. It keeps all the autists here happy without pissing off the redditors

>> No.28341930

>>28340235
love to see it
idk where all these freaks are that would DEMAND that the girls collab with tempus (must be another schizo boogeyman) - I mean cover and the individual talents would be kinda setting them up to fail if they don't get at least a little exposure given the luxiem's success but ANYWAY

I would like to see it happen, but I understand collabs are only worth it if each party gives a fuck and they're entertaining together. In Ame's case, I don't really expect much because in her own words, she's shy and cares more about solo content. Perfectly understandable

>> No.28341942 [DELETED] 

>>28341841
She's filtering you fags, that's the point

>> No.28341968

She lied about not doing 1-on-1, SHE'LL DO THEM

>> No.28341974

>>28340956
Sana is pure which is why she's leaving at the same time that the homos are arriving.

>> No.28341994

>>28340917
Oh wow, look. The 99% replied to you!

>> No.28342010

>>28341844
You lost.

>> No.28342018 [DELETED] 

>>28341853
Grow thicker skin, how on earth are you on 4chan

>> No.28342024

>>28341844
That's how they always are. It's not enough that they have their thing, everyone else should be forced to have it too.

>> No.28342028

>>28341853
She's right, though. Like, it's one thing to be mad that the content might change, it's another if literally just 1 stream out of 30 in a month being with a dick haver makes you pop a blood vessel.

If you're in the second one, reevaluation is needed.

>> No.28342082

>>28342018
Cry about it.

>> No.28342106 [DELETED] 

>>28342024
Look anon, if the talents don't want to live in a vacuum to avoid offending people you're gonna have to grow thicker skin or gtfo no matter who you watch

>> No.28342126

>>28341174
Yeah like, 2 of them do. Once a year at most. When is the last time there was a Stars collab that wasn't Fubuki? I honestly do not recall.

>> No.28342142

>>28340429
Wtf I love Ame now!

>> No.28342146

>>28340429
Based. The people that beg don’t watch streams anyway. If they ever did collab the beggars’ll go “oh cool lol *clicks away*”

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>>28342082
I don't seem to be the one crying here

>> No.28342200

I don't care, this hobby was made by and for basement dwellers. I'm not changing my beliefs just because cover for scared of Homo Niji

>> No.28342210

>>28340917
it's not even that
I took it to mean use your love for them to make shit you both would like

If you desperately need your oshi to notice and validate you, make cool art. Do something fulfilling

>> No.28342211

>>28342106
Don't worry about me, I'm perfectly capable of choosing who I want to watch.

>> No.28342241

>>28341968
>hasn't collabed with Stars JP or whoreshojo yet
>dude trust me it will happen
Roru

>> No.28342267

>>28340504
talent first let's gooooooooooooo!!!

>> No.28342275

>>28340678
I think she meant we should stop watching hololive

>> No.28342276

>>28340678
She said you should do yourself a favor and stop watching used goods sluts like her

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>>28342211
Good, see ya

>> No.28342342

>>28342210
This works too.

>> No.28342343

>>28342082
>t. guy who is crying

>> No.28342357

>>28342028
Its people like made that made her what she is. She should keep her stupid comments to herself

>> No.28342374
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>The only reason someone would appose or even be apprehensive of male collabs is if they're an evil unicorn idol chud bigot
It's already begun

>> No.28342390

>>28342028
Yeah, I'm ok with them occasionally collabing with stars. Bae and Roberu's collab was a laugh. Constant collabs, as some homo-fucks here would have it, is where I draw the line. Go to fucking Niji for that kind of shit.

I'm here to watch cute girls do cute things.

>> No.28342430 [DELETED] 

>>28342357
If you're this much of a pussy, you don't belong here

>> No.28342450

>>28340678
I took it as "if you want to interact with your oshi, you should get noticed with your skills"
after all, kanauru, renpc, and seafoam boy all get to talk to them
while I would agree with that, my issue is not that my oshi is interacting with males, it's that content I don't want to watch is getting forced

>> No.28342475

>>28339959
Trash vtuber, I hope her numbers get even worse than they already are.

>> No.28342498

>>28342082
you ok anon?
it's ok if your feelings are a little hurt you know
its ok to tell us

>> No.28342514 [DELETED] 

>>28342374
Nothing to do with politics, you're just pathetic

>> No.28342520

>>28342357
You need to both get the fuck out of 4chan and kill yourself.

>> No.28342522

>>28342374
Dude, it was over since the moment EN started.

>> No.28342615

>>28340108
Hololive is my favorite gender

>> No.28342624

>>28342028
If I'm touching grass why the fuck would I watch her. Do western chuubas even know their audience? I don't see many JPs saying shit like this

>> No.28342649

>>28342450
>it's that content I don't want to watch is getting forced
Just don't watch it, then. If the majority of her fanbase refuses to watch those collabs then she will get the message from you guys.

>> No.28342673

>>28342475
She could play apex bronze rank and get more viewers than Selen doing a tournament stream
She's just that charistmatic.
inb4 SELEN IS IN NIJIEN ITS NOT FAIR
If the males can do it, why the nijisisters can't?

>> No.28342687

>>28342624
Because you don't speak japanese.

>> No.28342737

>>28342390
Yeah well said. No regular male characters in my cgdct anime.

>> No.28342761

>>28342390
Well, yeah, it doesn't seem like constant collabs (ala NijiEN) will be a thing. So, it doesn't seem like you have much to worry about.

>> No.28342767

>>28342624
That's because you don't speak Japanese, anon.

>> No.28342773

>>28342374
The Anglo strikes again

>> No.28342777

>chuuba is an autstic introvert like me
>lole touch grass incel (even tho I barely talk to any gender myself)
I think vtubers boost ego in a dangerous way

>> No.28342782

>>28342342
And I'll expand on it, for the denser ones in the crowd

Share cool shit you do. Make friends with people who care about it and make their own cool shit. Keep sharing it. Keep improving. Make more friends who are better at the thing. Learn more. Get fucking huge. Or don't. You'll still have something you can call your own.

>> No.28342785 [DELETED] 

>>28342624
Trust me, they think you're a fag too

>> No.28342798

>>28342673
BASED
DRAGOONS IN SHAMBLES

>> No.28342853

Who gives a shit about these EN whores. Ill continue watching JP's that will never collab with males.
Its gonna start with some collabs here and there and if they pop off in those collabs with males and get big numbers, they will become more frequent, and then the shipping will start etc etc. Its over. EN is dead.

>> No.28342891

Are people genuinely put off by them collabing with the guys or just the japanese schizos and their "idol culture"

>> No.28342918

>>28342624
They know their audience they just hate their audience and want a different one

>> No.28342921

>>28342649
I don't have a problem with what ame said at all, it sounds like it's gonna be status quo and ame is trying to be ambiguous
what I'll be sad about is if the big holiday or birthday streams have to include them

>> No.28342922 [DELETED] 

>>28342853
Its more alive than ever fag

>> No.28342938

>>28339959
It's amazing how quickly ENfags have just completely bent over, and this is the place that would be the most opposed to male collabs. HoloEN is going to be identical to NijiEN within a few months, if you think otherwise you're completely deluded

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MILLIONS OF GOSLINGS
SILENCED WITH A SINGLE SENTENCE

>> No.28342953

Why do most of the posts on /vt/ read like GPT-3 wrote them?

>> No.28342960

>>28342853
ywnbj

>> No.28342973

>>28341853
That's exactly it anon. Its the attitude that hurts. Its like when Finana said "educate yourself". Like...why are you being so hostile or dismissive? It just turns us from being hesitant and unsure to being completely alienated.

>> No.28342986

>>28342891
I'm put off by it. Female/male collabs are always awkward as shit to watch.

>> No.28342990

>>28341695
That means it'll be her with all 4 guys at once

>> No.28343001

>>28340429
i dont understand how EN has any unicorns in the first place when virtually all of them have boyfriends or are confirmed whores. irys is the only exception since she lives in japan and understands idol culture.

>> No.28343009

>>28342891
Personally I'm mad she confirmed she won't do 1-on-1 collabs with them

>> No.28343049

>>28342921
That's not really the impression I get, to be honest.

>> No.28343079

>>28342891
I'm not an idol fag or a unicorn. I dont imagine myself being with one of these girls in any way shape or form. I like enjoying cute girls on their own...sometimes not even with other girls because I dont like them (Mori, Kiara, Bae) and now they are just throwing even more people into the mix. And you KNOW that because of the need to promote those faggots, it will be like Niji males in the beginning. They will be in every other girls chat leeching for attention and completely ruining the vibe of the stream for the viewers.

>> No.28343094

Seems like she panicked a bit when even the youtube chat was reacting badly to the prospect of male collabs. In the end she insulted her own audience and gave an answer that won't satisfy beggars.

>> No.28343101

>>28342973
why are you acting like such a snowflake over hearing two little words

>> No.28343118 [DELETED] 

>>28342973
What attitude, she told you to stop being hateful little shits and put that energy into something productive to make your life better

>> No.28343172

>>28342918
The "I touch grass enough to not mind getting cucked by male streamers, but not enough to stop watching anime girls altogether " sliver of an audience is already captured by Vshitjo

>> No.28343188

>>28343094
only idiots with zero prospects looking to get insulted were insulted by that

>> No.28343209 [DELETED] 

>>28343101
How do people this thin skinned end up on 4chan man, I swear 2015/16 was a death blow for the golden age of this site

>> No.28343213

>>28339959
>>28340671
People who are happy and fulfilled dont watch vtubers. Im not saying unicorns are right, they aren't, but the type of person who actually sits down and watches anime girls like Ame is in some way a loser.

>> No.28343220

>>28342938
I 100% disagree with you. The girls can be stupid as fuck sometimes, Cover can be stupid as fuck sometimes, but I don't think any of them genuinely think being like NijiEN is good for them.

>> No.28343239 [DELETED] 

>>28342891
Anybody who genuinely feels uncomfortable when they watch two internet strangers interact with each other just because they're members of the opposite sex has an irreparably damaged relationship with women. The only other people who give a shit about this are idolfags.

>> No.28343264

>>28343118
Nothing productive could possibly make my life better. I specifically watch vtubers to avoid being productive when I have the luxury to.

>> No.28343293

>>28342891
Lets be real - the "this girl only has eyes for me" thing was Hololives ace in the whole. Nijisanji and vShojo streams are more entertaining.

>> No.28343294 [DELETED] 

>>28343172
You will never belong no matter where you go if you keep this attitude up

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>>28340917
If people follow her advice, vtubers like her wouldn't have a job.

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>>28342624
Some of nijis most popular females have directly insulted their fans and called them losers.
They do it because you're not going anywhere, no matter how much they insult you, treat you like shit, you stay.

>> No.28343341

>>28342687
>>28342767
>>28342785
>>28342918
OK N1gods, find me one person that isn't fubuki that actually told them to fuck off

>> No.28343372

>>28343294
t. person who doesn't belong here

>> No.28343386

>>28343239
Members of the opposite sex don't interact with each other in the same way they do with members of the same sex. Are you denying this?

>> No.28343384 [DELETED] 

>>28343264
Even if that productive thing was just a hobby, turning that negative energy into something that is actually fulfilling and not just junk food for the mind is a good idea

>> No.28343466

>>28342973
Because thinking that collabing with guys is bad is stupid?
They all know that collabing with guys gives a debuff. What she’s saying is just shut the fuck up and stop watching her if you don’t like it. If a Holo is collabing with a guy, she’s knows she’s telling her unicorns she doesn’t care about them, and she doesn’t need you to tell her that.
If someone pulls a Finana and acts surprised at any backlash, *then* we can start clowning on her.

>> No.28343503

kekekekekekekekekk

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>>28343341
Suisei

>> No.28343518

>>28343384
There is nothing productive about my hobbies and I don't intend to change that.

>> No.28343520

>>28341849
Anon if people were "better" there wouldn't be vtubers. Think about why a grown ass man is sitting there watching an anime girl be silly while giggling to himself and throwing money at her.

>> No.28343535

It's over

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>>28343294
>you don't freaking belong on 4channel stupid incel chud

>> No.28343592

>>28340917
eh, not that interested.
Got a job, got friends, got a virtual girlfriend simulator, what would I need to "grow myself" for?
I grow plenty, even though it is in areas girls don't care about. Ame can go fuck herself with that dildo of an opinion.

>> No.28343602 [DELETED] 

>>28343550
You definitely came post 2015 lmao

>> No.28343607

>>28343220
Anon, read this thread. /vt/ is assuredly the biggest collection of unicorns in the western vtuber community, and the vast majority of people here are already rolling over and accepting it. On the other hand, you're going to have redditfags screaming at the top of their lugns that they want male collabs. The girls have absolutely no reason not to fully intregrate the homos

>> No.28343653

>>28343520
Because free time is a thing and not every job involves working 20 hours a day in an office.

(Source: Me, a guy who has a job but still has enough free time to giggle at Fauna streams)

>> No.28343670

>>28343341
Ame wasn't even telling them to fuck off, she was being honest with them. If they're this worked up over something that hasn't even happened yet to the point of anti-ing then they should probably spend this energy elsewhere.

>> No.28343678

>>28342018
>>28342520
>>28342430
>>28343209
Anon this was always fucking anime shitpost forum, /b/ wasn't the entire fucking site. You think similar shit like im@s didn't have these kind of posts?

>> No.28343682

>>28342891
>Shippers are cancer, especially male/female shippers for some reason.
>The number one source of drama and gossip tends to be "romantic" kinds.
>They attract the "idol culture bad" people
>Half of the appeal of hololive and holostars is they have a unique feeling because of the gender segregation, see the people itt saying stuff like they're like "cute girls doing cute things"
>Men and women behave differently around the opposite sex and it changes the vibe, sometimes it's fun not to have that happen
>The internet is filled with schizos and people are justifiably concerned about a the streamer they like getting Shindo Raito'd but actually.
And more. The twitter and reddit fags are just retarded and think if you're hesitant about the male collabs you're a crazy unicorn. Even the stars thread doesn't like if they collab too much.

>> No.28343685

I already know Mori will collab with all of them to piss her fans off.

>> No.28343704

>>28343172
>be big enough of a loser to want to watch girls pretend to be anime characters
>but not so much of a loser you want to see them flirt with boys on stream
it's a pretty small market I'd say, we'll see how it goes

>> No.28343715

>>28339959
I mean Bae already had a collab with Roberu, why would Tempus be exempt?

>> No.28343718 [DELETED] 

>>28343386
Exhibit A.

>> No.28343743

This bitch browses here
Theres no way she'd say she'd not do 1 on 1 colalbs only do group collabs if the others do it, while shitting on dramafags at the same time.
She knows what she's doing

>> No.28343747

>>28341683
The issue is that your reason for like and dislike are not seen as valid by the very people you watch, and the vast majority of people into Vtubing.
You sound like a child throwing their ice cream on the ground because they got chocolate instead of strawberry flavour.

>> No.28343750

>>28339959
I gave up on these types of people. If they don't want to understand parasocial feelings, I'm moving on. Terumi understands us.

https://www.youtube.com/c/TerumiKoizumiCh/videos

>> No.28343765

>>28343466
They all care anon, the "im a bad bitch" act would stop really quick once the gachi coin stops. Regular men with full filling lives dont sit down and watch fucking anime girls play Minecraft.

>> No.28343768 [DELETED] 

>>28343685
Not her fans, the schizos /here/ who don't like her anyway

>> No.28343770

>>28343715
and no one watches her

>> No.28343778

>>28343685
I will love her forever if she has a collab with all 4 on her own

>> No.28343781

>>28343607
People are "rolling over" /here/ because she was clear that:

>She (and probably not many of the other girls) aren't going to do 1 on 1 collabs with them

>Even if they do the occasional group collab, it will be just that. OCCASIONAL.

>> No.28343818

>>28343653
You should be using your free time to interact with actual women though. The fact that you're not means you need to improve.

>> No.28343837 [DELETED] 

>>28343678
Yeah but at one point people here had enough constitution that they wouldn't break down crying over mean words

>> No.28343845

>>28342891
I'm just not interested in watching males. I only have so much time and don't wish to spend it watching male livestreams, that's all. People are entitled to not like something and express that, there's no dignity in smiling and saying thank you when fed a piece of steaming shit.

>> No.28343846

>>28343678
You misunderstand me: I told him to get the fuck out and die because I dislike him.

>> No.28343849

>>28342210
Hell, she explicitly says later to work on 3D modelling or game dev skills because they'll 'come in useful in the future'
If you're schizo enough to read 'open to group collabs' as 'they're totally chomping at the bit to collab' then you should read that as '100% going to work with you in the future if you show off your skills'

>> No.28343890

>>28343818
basically this, she's telling you to not watch her, it's good advice

>> No.28343892

>>28343747
I don't care what they find valid. I will tell them that I don't like it, and I will stop watching if they persist despite that.

>> No.28343904

>>28343685
deadbeats don't care, Mori will try to piss off other fanbases by bringing their oshi to male collabs

>> No.28343903
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Filter the word cuck before tempus debuts.

>> No.28343936

>>28343892
That's okay. I hope you find nice Vtubers to watch

>> No.28343942

>>28343903
I'm probably just not gonna read /vt/ for a while once Tempus debuts desu.

>> No.28343963

>>28342891
Depends who the male is, There's some harmless cool people like Roberu who I wouldn't mind seeing a collab with.
I just think same sex collabs are more enjoyable and cause less problems as a whole.

>> No.28343973

>>28343001
There are kind of two definitions to "unicorn". The true definition is "will not follow any girl with confirmed male interactions, past or present", which would not only rule out most of HoloEN but much of HoloJP. The definition used on /vt/ is simply those who won't watch streams with males.

For instance, "unicorns" might be watamates, but true unicorns would not be.

>> No.28343980

>>28342200
Based

>> No.28343988

>>28339959
WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE WHORE

>> No.28343995

>>28342891
i feel cucked. like i'm paying her to fun with some guy.

>> No.28344022

>>28343781
It hasn't even happened yet, and you're already knuckling under. J-just group collabs, nothing to worry about! Are you honestly stupid enough to think they won't start collabing with them more and more when the group collabs are well received? Why wouldn't they?

>> No.28344032 [DELETED] 

>>28343988
MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS

>> No.28344052

I can understand not enjoying collabs with certain other Vtubers.
But dropping a vtuber you enjoy just because they have a collab you don't like once every month or two just sounds insane. Just don't watch it if it's so bad.

>> No.28344056

>>28343995
She already slicking to Shien three times a day

>> No.28344065

>>28344032
CUM CUM CUM CUM CUM CUM CUM

>> No.28344076

>>28343607
“Rolling over and accepting it” = not complaining about it and deciding instead to just not watch collabs with males
They’re not gonna fully integrate the homos cause all the videos that feature them are gonna dip in views, and they’ll either fade to irrelevancy or release a bunch of videos without guys to make up for it.
The number of anons who’ll drop a girl forever for collabing with a male is very small. But the number of anons who’ll still watch a girl as long as she’s not currently collabing with a male right now is large.
If you’re going to seethe because a small number of VODs will have guys in them, then no, Ame wants you to fuck off and she doesn’t care if you neck yourself

>> No.28344086

>>28341137
BASED

>> No.28344100 [DELETED] 

>>28343995
Then leave, no-one's keeping you here

>> No.28344121 [DELETED] 

>>28339959
Niche hobbies occupied by autistic NEETs being invaded by normies who tell them all to get a fucking job and be normal is a net positive. I've been following hololive for about 3.5 years now and watching this industry explode in popularity as all of the loser weebs are gradually ousted or at least regularly bullied has been incredible to see. You faggots deserve zero happiness, unironically. Go fix your pathetic lives.

>> No.28344143

>>28343837
>Yeah but at one point people here had enough constitution that they wouldn't break down crying over mean words
Hahahaha
What boards did you browse anon, /v/? You could find people complaining about the most mundane shit on /a/ since time immemorial, and ESPECIALLY in /jp/, this board shares more with them than any other board, the entire fucking site isn't one culture

>> No.28344146

>>28344052
Just don't have those collabs if you want me to keep watching.

>> No.28344159

>>28344100
they are going too

>> No.28344186 [DELETED] 

>>28344065
UwU

>> No.28344196

>>28343519
She didn't say that. She said that she will not pander to gachikois.

>> No.28344210

>>28342891
Idol culture is based.

>> No.28344241

>>28344022
>Are you honestly stupid enough to think they won't start collabing with them more and more when the group collabs are well received? Why wouldn't they?
Anon, even the most well-received collabs happen like once every 2 weeks at most. And if you think HomostarsEN will be even near the numbers of HololiveEN, you're in for a surprise.

>> No.28344264

>>28340504
Wow, that's what you got from her answer?

>> No.28344280 [DELETED] 

>>28344159
Good, hope they bash their heads on the doorframe while they storm out

>> No.28344309

>>28344076
What in the world makes you think they'll dip in viewers? This place has been completely whipped into being terrified of looking like a unicorn, can you imagine what the rest of the hololive community looks like?

>> No.28344333

>>28339959
She should go to Nijisanji if she likes to collab with males.

>> No.28344337

>>28339959
Hey, Fauna!
What's up?

>> No.28344338

>>28344280
easy to say now, we'll see how them CVC holds up

>> No.28344348

>>28343849
absolutely

she's literally telling you idiots to become the next kanauru or kay yu

will you fight? or will you perish like a dog?

>> No.28344371 [DELETED] 

>>28344196
You mean like what Ame just said?

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SHE TRIED TO WARN US
WE DIDNT LISTEN

>> No.28344396

>>28343323
This. There isn't really much else to add.
I don't even disagree with Ame's statement. Literally any of us could do something more productive than watching vtubers. But being a vtuber is her job, which she's able to keep explicitly because her viewers don't follow her suggestion.

>> No.28344402

how are your feeling teacucks

>> No.28344403

>>28343765
Most of those men will stop watching during the collab and watch again in the next stream when there aren’t any males.
Ame is saying the unicorns who will leave forever just for collabing with a guy every once in awhile are the ones who can fuck off, because she thinks that *those* are a small percentage of her male fans.
And I think she’s right. This is Ame, not fucking Chloe or Rushia.

>> No.28344410

Rushia debuts tonight and is waiting for you

>> No.28344412

>>28344333
She said she won't collab with them and will only do corporate mandated group collabs
Wait and see I guee

>> No.28344431

>>28344022
Yes, I do not think they will constantly collab with them.

But, honestly, with how you're saying this, it kinda sounds like you want them to.

Are you an NTR connosseur anon? It's okay, man.

>> No.28344459 [DELETED] 

>>28344338
Aight, we won't miss ya fag

>> No.28344480

>>28344146
Least entitled /vt/ user

>> No.28344483

>>28343323
This. It's baffling.

>> No.28344484

>>28344280
they'll take all the good fan content and culture that sustains the scene with them too

>> No.28344499 [DELETED] 

>>28344396
False dilemma. You can watch a cute girl stream a video game for a couple hours a week without being a shut-in loser without a job or any productive hobbies.

>> No.28344511

Oh Yagoo Yagoo
why did you do this to me?
You gave me the homos
when I wanted EN3
Yeah

>> No.28344530

>>28344410
>After she finishes swallowing Mafumafu's cum.

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>>28344484

>> No.28344549

>>28344480
It's literally easier to not do the collab than to do it.

>> No.28344550

>>28343718
He's right though. I recall my girlfriend being extremely jealous of me horsing around with another girl and saying that i was flirting with her when I was doing the exact same thing to the guys in the group with no other motive in mind.

Male-female interactions are definitely not the same at all.

>> No.28344571

She should have dropped the topic after answering the first question.

>> No.28344579

>>28344499
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT BE A LOSER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>ME? IM A CHAD BECAUSE I HAVE A JOB LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
shut the fuck up holy shit let people enjoy things

>> No.28344603

>>28344402
Angry and upset, I already unsubscribed and canceled my membership. Are all women like this nowadays? I might as well stop watching at this rate.

>> No.28344620

>>28344549
The funniest part about this is that you will definitely keep watching even when these collabs happen. You might even donate money.

>> No.28344623

>>28344484
no one who makes that stuff has the same level of adjustment disorder you do

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>unicorns
>relevant part of the HoloEN audience

>> No.28344636

>>28344410
i can't believe vshojoJP unironically going to be more unicorn friendly than hololive.

>> No.28344645

>>28344480
Holos can choose to collab or not collab. Audiences can choose to watch or not watch.

It goes both ways.

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>>28339959
Tldr: get a life losers after I leach your money thehe.

Bitch.

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>>28344579

>> No.28344681

>>28343323
Well if it isn't for her boyfriend, Ame would be hurting for money. All of her regular donors and views have left. She's at an all time low and will only sink further.

>> No.28344701

>>28344579
Hahaha what the fuck anon. You are a loser.

>> No.28344722

>>28344402
Unless you’re JP-only, please refrain from making fun of us, because every single EN fambanbase is gonna get cucked eventually.

>> No.28344731

>>28344530
>debunked

>> No.28344735

>>28344579
Anon is literally not wrong, though. How do you think we get the money to throw thousands of dollars at our oshis? We have jobs, we have lives. We just use our free time on chuubas instead of watching Marvel movies and shit.

>> No.28344742

>>28344542
you think people who make shit like holocure are epic grass touchers?
>>28344623
gachikoi aren't as disordered as you hope for them to be

>> No.28344763 [DELETED] 

>>28344550
>he's right though
>source: my insecure girlfriend who also has an unhealthy relationship with the opposite sex
You got me there.

>> No.28344765

>>28344264
Not him but I definitely got that vibe and I'm not even an unicorn, she was just my favorite Myth. "Don't watch me loser". Ok, I won't anymore.

>> No.28344778

>>28344620
I dropped vtubers over this before. I don't see why this time would be any different.

>> No.28344785 [DELETED] 

>>28344666
Seethe

>> No.28344789

>>28344620
This is actually true for Niji En, the girls make more money in collabs with guys if they have the only perspective.

>> No.28344805

Everyone should calm down and take her advice, hit the weights, hit the job listings and stop wasting your life watching girls pretend to be anime characters

>> No.28344811

>>28344309
Anon do you think that everyone who isn’t a unicorn actually likes watching males? We just think it’s a waste of time to seethe about it.
If we’re too lazy to get mad, what makes you think we won’t be too lazy to skip a stream that features a male vtuber, which again the majority of us already don’t like anyway?

>> No.28344821

>>28344765
I say this as respectfully as I can anon, but you have very thin skin.

>> No.28344837

>>28344579
shut the fuck up and enjoy a mortgage bitch

>> No.28344869

>>28344763
>basic human emotions are unhealthy
Huh?

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>>28344681
Nijifags...
Ame's average CCV this month so far is above 9K

>> No.28344902

If your angry about what she said and don’t immediately stop watching her your a retard. These fans that are walking doormats that let vtubers insult them to their face are ruining vtubing because they let vtubers get away with this shit. Not to mention the fact that most of the Holo EN fanbase let them get away with streaming once a month. Fucking pathetic

>> No.28344903

>>28344645
>>28344549
Imagine 10 or so people approaching a political candidate with a list of specific demands they have to fulfill if they want their vote. The candidate's not going to care for those 10 people, because they're irrelevant overall.

>> No.28344913

>>28344805
What she's doing is emotional manipulation. I have every right to be upset.

>> No.28344922

>>28339959
Watson: collabs are a possibility but won't be common place, exactly how it always was
/vt/: SHE WILL SUCK THEIR DICKS 24/7
It's great knowing people here lack reading comprehension skills.

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>>28344579
Bro I work for the glowies from home, I make like 100k, I didn't have any qualifications, they just needed someone to sort stuff and take phone calls.
I'm an obese shut-in, I dress like a bum, I was literally stopped by a nurse in the street yesterday and given free over the counter meds cause she said I looked like I needed help.

Being a chad has nothing to do with working.

>> No.28344932

>>28344805
If you have to, imagine that you're doing it for the time you meet your oshi IRL and you appear not as a cosplaying crossdressing fatty, but as an alpha male she'll regret never being able to have anything with because she lives a life of constraints.

>> No.28344939

>>28344735
kek who the fuck is throwing thousands of dollars at Ame anymore? Literally no one.

>> No.28344944

>>28344678
>unemployed people are the ones super chatting thousands of dollars
yeah probably not

>> No.28344953

>>28344309
The dip has long been proven. The gartic phone collab with Iofi, Ollie, Mumei, Bae and four holostars put up VOD numbers that were basically no different or lower than a solo stream on every girl's channel except Iofi.
A gigantic eight-people collab with a single perspective and a game (that was still a buff at the time) over the girls' usual timeslots, with standouts of each branch (Mumei, Ollie, and Roberu) and it couldn't break 12K CCV? Yeah, something's wrong.

>> No.28344969

>>28344742
kay yu is a pretty successful animator

dude probably has negative vitamin d levels but I'd say he's doing well for himself, yeah

>> No.28344989 [DELETED] 

>>28344869
If you're still with that girl, take this as a warning. She is a deeply insecure person. Don't let her insecurity get in the way of you having or making friends with other women. The way she acts isn't healthy or normal.

>> No.28344996

>>28344875
Fucking hell, why do so many people still watch her?

>> No.28345005 [DELETED] 

>>28344742
They're talented enough to have a job at least

>> No.28345008

>>28344903
Ok? I'm still not going to watch someone who goes out of their way to displease me.

>> No.28345033

>>28344903
Anon the problem is that in real life people are already that delusion, and that’s with their names attached to that shit

I want every twitter leftist to die in a fire, but unicorns /here/ are somehow even worse than them.

>> No.28345055

>people that enjoys holoen as is and wants things to remain the same are getting called unicorns or incels and are labeled as the bad guys
>people that are celebrating the idea of holoen turning into nijien while shitting on everyone else are labeled as the good guys
how did it come to this

>> No.28345077 [DELETED] 

>>28344996
Because most people don't think like you, unicornfags on this board delude themselves they're important or wanted

>> No.28345098

>>28344953
It was on Iofi's and Oga's channels. Bae's collab with Roberu got above average views for her

>> No.28345114

>>28345055
On here it's just contrarians feasting on free (you)s. Everywhere else it's virtue signaling.

>> No.28345117

Kek so many incels seething
Based Ame

>> No.28345120

>>28344944
Plenty of unemployed crypto bros and trust fund kids these days. They're probably even more likely to donate than someone who had to earn the money by working.

>> No.28345126

>>28344678
>>28344701
>>28344735
>>28344837
>>28344926
i have a webdev job and a mortgage and there's nothing incredible about it.
In fact its fucking shit. garbage. miserable.
stop pretending to be chad.
everyone in this """"hobby""" is already a fucking """loser"""
holy shit white knights are insufferable

>> No.28345145

>>28345055
>things that aren't happening

>> No.28345152

>>28344403
I think you're wrong. I'm not even looking for GFE, my oshi's PC's Lumi ffs, and I'm still disappointed by Ame since shes my Myth oshi. I won't watch her for a long while

>> No.28345191

>>28345117
I'm seething because she confirmed she won't od 1-on-1 collabs with males. This is the best thing about NijiEN
Being dodgy and saying "maaaybe" group collabs is just retarded

>> No.28345211

>>28344996
seethe loser

>> No.28345224

>>28344785
You will never be a wo... I mean a decent human being you filthy degenerate.

>> No.28345227

>>28345077
Factual and Based.

>> No.28345249

>>28345191
>I'm seething because she confirmed she won't od 1-on-1 collabs with males.
She said nothing like that.

>> No.28345251 [DELETED] 

>>28345055
Won't somebody shed a tear

>> No.28345266

>>28345126
>codeslave
I'm so sorry brother, solidarity

A better world is possible, communism will win

Keep the faith

>> No.28345269

>>28345191
Why are nijicucks like this?

>> No.28345268

>>28345126
No.

That literally just sounds like a (you) problem. I, on the other hand, am making my money and enjoying watching Fauna play games while saying cute things.

>> No.28345291

>>28345008
Nta but they’re saying that everyone knows and they don’t care already. If you’re mad and you’re only one of ten people who are that mad, necking yourself is more likely to get them to notice you exist than bitching about it /here/

>> No.28345319

>>28344309
Read about the spiral of silence. Most of those who leave will leave in silence. There's also a disconnect between what people say, and what they actually do. It's like giving twitter lip service BLM while clutching your purse tight when you get close to nigs on the street

>> No.28345325

"I'm open to living with Gura, we've discussed it several times"
>SHE'S JUST PAYING LIP SERVICE SHE DOESN'T MEAN IT THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER

"I'm open to group collabs"
>OMG THE COLLABS ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAPPEN

>> No.28345333 [DELETED] 

>>28345227
Why unicornfags think anyone likes or wants them, or that other people share their schizophrenia, is beyond me, I swear some are actual narcissists

>> No.28345336

>>28345249
She did though.

>> No.28345341

>>28345191
Why the fuck would they want to be like NijiEN lol. I dont mind them collabing with anyone but i really dont want to listen to a guy talking about cum cause thats literally gay

>> No.28345349

>>28345291
I'm still going to let them know that I don't like it.

>> No.28345351

>>28344969
and so now think, why does hololive get all of the premium fan content (walfie models, custom music, holocure, fan art, etc.) while vshojo and niji are dry of such creativity? it's pretty obvious that it's because only incels and unicorns are autistic enough to put that much effort into something like that

>> No.28345359

>>28344722
i only watch clips
>>28344603
my condolences (not ironic)

>> No.28345385

>>28344875
Rent free brony chama.

>> No.28345393

>>28345055
Newfags plain and simple. Im not even a active watcher of hololive anymore but from the start they’ve always been idols and pandered to unicorns. This being the case I was never a unicorn but it never bothered me. Holo EN was a mistake from the start and this move to EN Stars is 100 percent Corporate Greed

>> No.28345401

>>28344499
Watching vtubers already puts you in the weirdo category. It raises a lot of questions, like why vtubers instead of regular streamers? Why do things like valentine streams even exist? why are most vtubers female? Why are most of the fanbase males?

>> No.28345412 [DELETED] 

>>28345351
I'd rather lose the odd fangame than put up with you fags

>> No.28345453

>>28345120
Okay? And those paypigs are the "losers" that'll leave. Good job Ame

>> No.28345452

>Nooooo I’m a lifeless loser so everyone else watching tubers has to be a loser tooooo

>> No.28345480

>>28345452
99% of the people in this thread lmao.

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I'm a bit confused by this thread, she outright said she won't do a 1 on 1 male collab and basically only said she'd collab with them if it was corporate-mandated group shit

What's there to doompost about? Did you want Ame to outright go NO MALES or something?

>> No.28345544

>>28344989
Your pov comes from an adherence to modern progressive western egalitarianism as a morality.

>> No.28345579

>>28345538
>she outright said she won't do a 1 on 1 male collab
Where?

>> No.28345580 [DELETED] 

>>28345480
Sooner or later they'll neck themselves if they keep this up, they need to be told how pathetic they are before its too late

>> No.28345604

So is it over for people like me that just wanted CGDCT inspired streams? It gave me peace like the animes but now knowing how easily this stuff can be taken away where else do I go? Do I really have to give up on EN vtubers?

>> No.28345605

>>28344620
nah I already had one foot out the door. Hololive has gotten stale. I thought EN3 (female) might breathe new life into it but instead we got something intended for wom*n

>> No.28345617

>>28345480
100% like you and me.

>> No.28345637

>>28345538
She spited both unicorns and homobeggars but this thread is acting like unicorns are the only ones that got insulted, probably because no one watched the stream and is merely shitposting based on the op

>> No.28345642

>>28345319
Silence honestly goes the other way too. Only time I ever locked my car doors was when I was in Chinatown and a homeless Asian guy went up to my window.
I’m not gonna hide my wallet from a black guy in a Whole Foods. I’d trust a black employee at Whole Foods way more than even a white manager at Wal-Mart.

>> No.28345647

>>28345412
you realize that they're not completely useless side creations? they're the oxygen supply that sustain the scene in the first place, remove it and you won't have an attractive enough atmosphere to sustain viewers, let alone attract new ones. This is simple business 101.

>> No.28345646

>>28345579
The beginning of the first homo question (she got asked twice)

>> No.28345660

>dramaniggers purposely misinterpreting what she said
sasuga

>> No.28345662

>>28345055
It's happened to literally every hobby. I don't know. I'll give you the lazy (and correct) answer: it's the Jews.

>> No.28345680

>>28345266
>A better world is possible, communism will win
Meh, communism is just a pipe dream, we're living in reality

>>28345268
holy shit everyone is making money being a wageslave there's nothing special about it. Jesus fucking christ am I talking to 12 year olds

>> No.28345690

>>28344480
Yes, the customer is always right, learn to value yourself and your time and stop sucking the dick of every person on your scream, dumb redditor faggot.

>> No.28345694 [DELETED] 

>>28345647
I don't even think they will go to begin with anon, because they're doing interesting shit not lurking /here/ and crying about mean words

>> No.28345695

>>28345538
common interrogation technique. get the suspect to admit to a lesser crime and work your way up from there

>> No.28345711

>>28345580
What’s the point of doing that? If they’re unhappy and stop watching isn’t that a good thing for you? Trying to force your ideology on people is dumb

>> No.28345730

>>28345660
Here comes the Cover damage control interns.

>> No.28345755 [DELETED] 

>>28345690
If you've ever worked in business you'll know the customer is frequently wrong and its sometimes better to move on to better clients who actually listen

>> No.28345774

>>28345695
Anon what the fuck are you talking about, Ame's a fucking high school dropout

>> No.28345778

>>28342374
Fubuki has collabed with males

>> No.28345810

>>28345755
In this case it's Cover falling on its sword spilling its guts out over twitter casuals who watch a clip once a week and 20 minutes of a stream once a month demanding that you upend the format for them.

>> No.28345809

>>28345055
She literally said nothing is going to change. There might be big corporate events every once in a while.

>> No.28345820

>>28345646
She said no such thing. You hallucinated it.

>> No.28345832 [DELETED] 

>>28345711
I don't want them to be unhappy or to neck themselves, I don't hate people for having a different opinion to me even if I will laugh at them in this case

>> No.28345852

Any clip yet?? I didn't watch.

>> No.28345884

>>28345730
>>28345820
Here come the nijinigger dramafags

>> No.28345895

>>28345820
She said "I prefer solo content, I'm not the collab type" and "Maaaybe group collabs, I don't know."
Ame maybes have always been a "no", its her way of being dodgy

>> No.28345896

>>28345120
>have shitloads of money
>go work at mcwagies you loser!
are you dumb?

>> No.28345904 [DELETED] 

>>28345730
>Paranoid schizophrenia

>> No.28345906

>>28345349
That’s why they’re making you mad on purpose. They want to get you so mad you never show up again. Because people like you are so rare they’ve already calculated that you fucking off (and hopefully necking yourself) will make them more money in the long run.

It’s when people who stay quiet leave that they panic. Anon, I’m not joking, this is genuine advice. Watching other streamers and not talking about it is the best way to get a vtuber to stop collabing with males

>> No.28345913

>>28345730
I honestly believe cover has shills here. The mods also being shills for them would make perfect sense. These brainwashed defense forces are too perfect to be real

>> No.28345917

>>28341683
This. When the ice cream you're consuming decides to change from vanilla to chocolate, then calls you a lazy bum and tells you to get a job so you can become one of the people who enjoy chocolate ice cream, what was even the point?

It's not wrong per se, but the reason some people watch vtubers is exactly because they've already given up. And for a woman in western society, which empowers and emboldens women, to be shit talking men...that's just privelege blind. She comes off as a spoiled whore who doesn't appreciate how good she has it to be able to get free money just by being a woman playing video games on the internet.

>> No.28345927

>>28345694
Of course they're not /here/ since they're actually doing something, but if they feel slighted in any way by their oshi (e.g. male collabs) their resolve to put in an autistic amount of effort towards such creations will disappear, they won't make a fuss about it, they'll just silently move onto something else and leave what once was to slowly suffocate.

>> No.28345946

>>28339959
Ame:
>things will largely stay the same
>we might do group collabs sometimes, but that's it.

/vt/: NOOOOOOO PENIS HAVERS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER MY OSHI'S STREAMS NOOOOOO

... Seriously?

>> No.28345947

>>28345895
She's done tons of collabs. Even with people she literally can't understand.

>> No.28345952

>>28345351
niji has most of that but on a much smaller scale, obviously

Walfie and that Patterns guy (music) have worked with talents in both corps and those are just two examples off the top of my head

People so paralyzed by the idea of M*LES aren't making shit

>> No.28345977 [DELETED] 

>>28345913
>Paranoid Schizophrenia

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>>28345778
Yes? And?

>> No.28346027

>>28342374
it's fucking over already.
People now think it's king shit to get insulted by thots while being a wageslave.

>> No.28346031

>>28345906
I definitely cause them more mental duress by sharing my opinion, so I'll stick to doing that.

>> No.28346048

>>28345946
This is a drama board, anon
Nijisisters want to see the holo girls being accessories to the males, just like what happened to nijiEN

>> No.28346057

>>28345913
>nijiniggers are this mindbroken

>> No.28346074

>>28345946
After witnessing the disaster that happen with Nijisanji EN, I fear the worse for Hololive EN

>> No.28346080

>>28345895
Ame doesnt initiate collabs but is incapable of saying no to any collab requests

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>>28345917
>Privilege blind

>> No.28346104

>>28345452
chad is not watching someone larp as an anime character, he's too busy, he sure the fuck isn't sending her money or talking about her on the internet

>> No.28346136

>>28346080
>but is incapable of saying no to any collab requests
What even makes you think that?

>> No.28346148

>>28339959
Did Ame have an fight with Gura or something? Strange she would say that without talking to Gura first.

>> No.28346149

>>28346074
That's understandable, but we still have no indication that will happen.

I mean, if your expectation was literally "nope, they will never even interact once" then I don't know what to tell you."

>> No.28346192

>>28345917
I’m not a unicorn but your 100 percent right. If a product you like changes you have every right to stop buying or consuming that product. But unfortunately so many people are battered wifes at this point. Vtuber fans have no backbone whatsoever

>> No.28346211

>>28345946
look what happened to nijien and do you really trust holoen management not to try and force this shit to promote this project like thay are already doing by piggybacking off the girls auditions, vague posting on annoucements to get people to click and hiding the holostars branding

>> No.28346218

>>28346149
>That's understandable, but we still have no indication that will happen.
This is the group that has Mori in it, and this is also the group where Mori is very much liked by its members.

>> No.28346220

>>28345895
People who take 'maybe group collabs' as a 'yes' were likely not around for the time when she said holostar collabs were a possibility (leading to 'Astel is running across the ocean to fuck your oshi' spam and then him subsequently telling collab beggars to fuck off). If anything this is more conservative than her past position.

>> No.28346319

>>28340917
Women don't work. And entertainment/sports aren't a real job.

>> No.28346333

>>28346148
What does Gura have to do with this

>> No.28346393

>>28343750
Terumi openly collabs with males though.

>> No.28346399

>>28344903
If you look at how Global judged with how they wanna approach it it's not 10 people, it's like 70% of the entire audience, that is a sample size well over 1k and you'd be a FOOL to ignore that, literally entire national polls used N-counts around that.

>> No.28346430

>>28346333
Gura is against male collabs. She even ghosted all her male managers. Ame knows this so she probably is trying to get at Gura after having a small argument.

>> No.28346485

>>28346211
Except management explicitly hired for holostarsEN to target women

https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/0000029

So bad news for people wanting brotubers, I guess, but there's no advantage to be gained from promoting to a male audience

>> No.28346524

>>28345126
But I'm not Chad, I'm just not a loser. Loser is a state of mind. You sound like a loser.

>> No.28346557

>>28345642
>never locks car doors
>trusts nigs more than whites

Get your kid's DNA checked if you ever have any.

>> No.28346571

>>28346430
Ame is definitely going to move in with Gura so she's not going to piss her off

>> No.28346576

>>28346430
>Gura is against male collabs
Who gives a fuck? Then she just won't do them. I don't see how this is relevant to Amelia.

>> No.28346628

>>28340429
It's the best attitude honestly. People who say things like "let me have my fun" or "I want to do what I want and collab with anyone" are irresponsible and entitled, but the people who just flat out relent and say that they''ll never collab with men or they're afraid of pissing off any viewers come off as manipulative.

Proper professionalism is underrated with vtubers but Amelia has the right attitude. If there's a job to be done, or content that's worthwhile, she should absolutely work with the boys. Viewers need to trust that she'll do a good job.

>> No.28346636

>>28346104
Chad literally doesn't exist, anon. He is a cartoon made by people parodying their own insecurities.

You don't believe everything you read on this website, do you?

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>>28345126
>he's a webnigger
>he """"""""""""programs"""""""""""" webpages
>he gets assfucked by Javascript every day
>he '''learns'''' web ''''''frameworks'''''
Oh nononononononononono ahahaha oh my gooood how could this happen

Anon. Anon, it's not too late to pick up something easy to get into like C#. You can still learn an actual technology. Or even ditch full-time programming and do something like admin for Azure or AWS.

>> No.28346713

>>28344989
I'm not even defending her, and I put my foot down on that front (no one tells me who I can be friends with), but that doesn't mean that humans aren't like that. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find a girl in love with you that doesn't automatically become jealous if you give attention to other girls, especially if you seem to be enjoying yourself while doing so, and the prettier she perceives the other girl to be, the more jealous she will get. Guys aren't immune to this either, and I know I am not, but I generally solve any problem as a "mutual benefits" kinda deal ("if I can do it so can she", "if I don't like it, I won't put her through it", etc.).

But that is besides the point: male-female social dynamics are different from male-male/female-female social dynamics.

>> No.28346738

>>28346628
>Proper professionalism is underrated with vtubers but Amelia has the right attitude. If there's a job to be done, or content that's worthwhile, she should absolutely work with the boys. Viewers need to trust that she'll do a good job.
That's exactly how I feel about this too. A lot of these posters seem like the types that are very quick to catastrophize.

>> No.28346832

I just don't want to see Holo EN become Niji EN, like hardly any of the JP Holos collab with men in the first place. But you know there will be people bitching constantly for the EN girls to collab once the EN boys come, gonna be annoying as fuck.

Besides, why would any of them who never collab'd with men originally now all of a sudden start collabing with Holo EN men? I can't see any besides the usual ones like Bae/Ollie/etc starting to all of a sudden collabing with men

>> No.28346918

>>28341177
>>28341278
>>28341408
>>28341643
>>28341793
>>28341942
>>28342018
>>28342106
>>28342182
>>28342340
>>28342430
>>28342514
>>28342785
>>28342922
>>28343118
>>28343209
>>28343294
>>28343384
>>28343519
>>28343602
>>28343768
>>28343837
>>28344032
>>28344100
>>28344186
>>28344280
>>28344371
>>28344459
>>28344542
>>28344678
>>28344785
>>28345005
>>28345077
>>28345251
>>28345333
>>28345412
>>28345580
>>28345694
>>28345755
>>28345832
>>28345904
>>28345977
>>28346081
>least schizophrenic cuck
The absolute STATE

>> No.28346972

>>28346524
>Loser is a state of mind
Pure copium, you're a nerd
>You sound like a loser.
Person A gets insulted, leaves.
Person B gets insulted, loves it, asks for more.
People like you are the reason why these thots can take a huge steamy shit on you and face no repercussion.

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>>28344722
>tfw started learning JP over a year ago to build myself a back door thinking this might happen one day
>over time start watching EN less and less, not trying to learn English after all
>Luxiem happens, study even harder
>Tempus happens
>mfw

>> No.28347010

>>28346628
The ones who don't wanna piss off their viewers are fucking smart is what they are. Marine and Korone are extremely fucking mindful of their audiences and they're quite fucking more successful than the likes of Matsuri and Fubuki these days. Matuli and foobs are not out on the street looking for scraps, anyone in Holo is still gonna make it pretty much, but they clearly do not have command or respect over the audiences anymore.

The more damaging part is it causes divides in the audience, makes the audience turn on each other as fans, and also dampens trust in Cover Corp that maybe some day your sweet oshi will turn into a spiteful ethot and you'll never SC another penny to a Holo ever again. That kind of thing.

>> No.28347057

>>28346918
jesus christ I hate these cucks.
What the FUCK is wrong with them

>> No.28347059

Sounds like the end times are upon us, this basically just sounds like her trying to get her fans ready for the inevitable male collabs.

Only question is will members like Gura/etc, ones who hardly collab outside Hololive itself anyway, will they start collabing with EN boys. I doubt it, only a few members seem to really care about this kind of shit

>> No.28347087

>>28346918
Holy fuck! All comments deleted by jannies.

>> No.28347096

>>28346832
Here's the thing. NijiEn doesn't resemble NijiJP at all, they didn't from the start. Luxiem actually changed nothing with how the vtubers interacted, they just happen to have penises. The current issues with the branch were problems that were apparent since Obsydia at the very latest.

HoloEn standards have largely been the same as HoloJP standards and Amelia is right that the majority of streams are done solo in the very first place and guerilla collabs are such non-culture that more than once the girls have started streams open call and ended with no one visiting at all.

People are worried but all the signs point towards things changing very little for Hololive EN.

>> No.28347114

>>28347087
Looks like a samefag got banned.

>> No.28347125

>>28345946
If fans don't scream bloody murder, they aren't taken seriously (and even if they do...)

>> No.28347170

I wish HoloEN and Tempus would have a relationship like NijiJP.

>> No.28347178

>>28346972
Anon... you can not possibly be serious. How long has it been since you gave up on yourself? Also, I don't even watch HoloEN very often.

>> No.28347219

>>28347096
I guess we'll have to wait and see what tomorrow brings with the boys debut. I'm not optimistic about it at all

>> No.28347236

>>28346918
LMAO

>> No.28347272

>>28347087
>>28346918
Cover shill I'm betting. Friendmeido made it clear a few days ago he is fine if Global decides it wants to reject accepting males into their meta and split the thread if necessary, if he visibly is not putting up with Cover's shit forcing this onto us he'll probably snipe their shills if he spots them. meido can't be cover staff, he's way too based to be.

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>>28346918

>> No.28347301

>>28346692
>easy to get into like C#
I feel like webdev is easier frankly, I'm not working that hard, but it's boring as fuck.
It just gets on my nerves when people brag about basic shit like having a job.
If they want to brag then it better be some good shit, or better yet they should stop posting here and go party with their friends IRL.

>> No.28347303

I just can't wait for the shitstorm when the Holo EN boys end up just like their JP counterpart, and people start bitching at the girls to collab with them to boost their numbers.

>> No.28347315

>>28347059
Sounds like you should watch streams, dramanigger.

>> No.28347371

>>28346218
Can you name me all the Stars members she collabed with? All the 1 member? And don't forget how fuck all changed after she collabed with him, especially how she barely acknowledges the existence of all the other members.

>> No.28347426

>>28347096
>People are worried but all the signs point towards things changing very little for Hololive EN.
It's HoloEN's, especially Ame's attitude that is the issue here. I don't see fucking Korone saying shit like "touch grass if you're not okay with this"

>> No.28347433

>>28345774
I think he means the opposite: to get Ame to admit to the possibility of collabs and use that as the slippery slope argument.

I mean, it can be construed both ways, but this ones is the one that makes the most sense in this context.

>> No.28347503

>>28347303
>can't wait for my fanfic to come true

>> No.28347554

>>28344550
I can back this up. I was always "the funny guy" of the groups I was in in school, but got kicked out of a lunch table because some of them said I was flirting with one chick in front of everyone and it was insufferable even though I wasn't. Experimented a bit telling the same jokes in the same ways to both men and women at work and gauging the reactions of those around and people definitely view it as flirting if you tell jokes to a woman, even if you do it the same way with a man. I try to avoid being funny near women at work now lmao

>> No.28347559

>>28347178
>How long has it been since you gave up on yourself?
Bro if I had really given up I'd be dead.
It just baffles me to see nerds get insulted again and again by the same people who always took a shit on them, and they ask for more. Defend yourselves goddamnit.

>> No.28347678

>>28347426
>It's HoloEN's, especially Ame's attitude that is the issue here.
Maybe you should have watched the stream instead of reading bait threads.

>> No.28347693

>>28347559
It's called Stockholm Syndrome. Some nerds are so mindbroken from abuse they start to like it and ask for more.

>> No.28347738

Anybody got a timestamp to the stars marshmallows? Need them to tell future bait threads to fuck off.

>> No.28347760

>>28341683
>>28345917
Any ex-Teamates remember that member post from mid 2021 where she told people if they didn't like her tummy horts and frequent cancellations they should feel free to take their $5 and go elsewhere? Same attitude.

>> No.28347827

>>28347096
>Holo EN being like Holo JP
Kek nice joke. EN couldn’t be farther from jp if they tried. JP mogs EN in every aspect

>> No.28347875

>>28347760
Yea seriously ame has had so many red flags I’m shocked people still watch her. Im glad I never did

>> No.28347917

>>28347678
I watched the stream. Ame is/was my favorite in Myth.

>> No.28347930

Tempura dead on arrival rip

>> No.28347932

>>28347096
>HoloEn standards have largely been the same as HoloJP standards
Counterpoint: Mori

>> No.28348037

>>28347917
lol ogey

>> No.28348138

>>28347693
I'd also chalk it up to the fact a lot of nerdy viewers are probably also ultra-beta friendzone orbiter types IRL. They're used to being walked on and taken advantage of by girls, and in an act of pure projection will accuse you of being an incel if you tell them to nut up and not let bitches take advantage of them.

Here, we are telling you fucking orbiter incel losers that NO, she will NOT give you pussy if you're nice to her enough and let her do anything she wants enough, she WILL NOT fuck you eventually if you keep offering to drive her to her boyfriend's house and play games and shit with him when she's not around. With vtubers it's an entire dimension of space removed from that further but psychologically they are in the same loop still. I do not know how to break them out of it really and I fucking doubt someone as brainless as Ame would be able to articulate what I just said without causing a fucking shitstorm, so she just tells you a super vague "get out and be productive" message instead.

>> No.28348273

>>28340678
go find a girlfriend you sad NERD (lol)

>> No.28348342

>>28340956
Sana is wise to jump off this sinking ship

>> No.28348357

>>28339959
she didn't answer the question

>> No.28348394

>>28339959
Come watch the newly established Idols from Production Kawaii!
They have a male collab ban! No male collabingloving whores allowed and they don't want to collab with males anyways!!!

>> No.28348403

>>28347693
>Some nerds are so mindbroken from abuse they start to like it and ask for more.
Yep, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's so fucking sad.

>> No.28348411

>>28348138
Also, to the contrary, a girl will take you more seriously if you prove you have some kind of a fucking spine and a backbone, a point where you just say "no, I'm making the call, I won't put up with that" and have agency and confidence in your actions.

This is why orbiters often wonder "why is it that girls so often hang out with fucking loser asshole dudes" - it's because they're attracted to that asshole's ability to have confidence and agency. Coming across as a wimpy doormat will dry up most girls drier than the sahara. At best, they will tolerate your presence and maybe take advantage of the situation if they're assholes themselves.

>> No.28348449

>>28343220
luckily they don't have the chink fanbase anymore

>> No.28348452

>>28343653
I've not seen this level of cope and delusion in a while. If you watch a vtuber on the regular you're not a fucking well-adjusted human, own up to it. You're okay with this because you're used to IRL girls treating you like this

>> No.28348541

>>28348411
>Coming across as a wimpy doormat will dry up most girls drier than the sahara.
Exactly, which is probably why most of these female streamers take a shit on their orbiters at some point. It's pretty grim.

>> No.28348627

>>28341930
you type like a girl.

>> No.28348716

I hope Miko never talks about this dumb spic whore again

>> No.28349155

>>28345917
>It's not wrong per se, but the reason some people watch vtubers is exactly because they've already given up.
I guess this is where I disagree. I mean, yes the vast majority of people that watch chuubas are "losers" but I always thought that the point was that (aside from entertainment) the girls also encourage you to get better, do your reps, pick up new hobbies (I started to learn the Kalimba because of Fauna), etc. So that eventually, when you feel more confident you move on. Kind of a social service for a segment of society that has been largely abandoned because people think we don't need help. But instead it seems it encouraged people to stay losers forever? I don't know.

>> No.28349264

>>28340917
No, people get it, it's just she's an idiot talking down to people objectively more successful than she ever would have been in life herself without Holo, which is a dark-chocolate-rich irony. People SC'ing her all that spare money when, remember at the start, she was poor as a shithouse rrat with no prospects in life whatsoever. Holo was her last ditch effort and happened to work out. See how she thanks you all? She's not worth it bros.

>> No.28349513

>>28342241
she doesn't speak japanese and vshojo sluts don't even stream

>> No.28349712

>>28347875
>thread reader

>> No.28349733

>>28349155
>the girls also encourage you to get better, do your reps, pick up new hobbies
This was never the case. They're entertainers first and last and their job is to make money off of their audience by all possible means (that they can morally accept). That some of them want you to do things to improve yourself is mostly platitudes based on mild wishful thinking based on the perceived images of what they think their audience is... with maybe one or two exceptions of people who "have been there" that genuinely do it to inspire others.

>> No.28349899

>>28339959
>And, I know some of you might be like "but Ame why are you talking to guys????" Maybe you should use those feelings and be productive and grow yourself!"
Same energy as Finana's "educate yourselves". It's as if someone asked that to her face everyday. She could've just replied with "I'm sorry, but this is the decision me/management/Hololive has come to" and leave it at that. Whatever happened to professionalism? She's not some 2view indie whore streaming under a bridge.

>> No.28351089

>>28342374
Nah, I just saw what NijiEN turned into.

>> No.28351251

She can talk all the shit she wants,but once the male collabs start her numbers will tank lol
At least there's no way Gura or Ina does this. Ame can join the Kiara and Calli whores

>> No.28351342

Will never understand why they act so high and mighty when the losers with no girlfriends are literally their audience

>> No.28351435

>>28349899
Anon she literally said instead of wasting your life away seething about a male use that time to better yourself. Pretty professional if you ask me,
>I'm sorry, but this is the decision me/management/Hololive has come to
That's the most retarded thing to say, itlonly further push the image that cover is "le evil manipulator"

>> No.28351499

>>28351342
This, it makes no sense
If her viewers listened to her she would be out of a job

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