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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?

>Where can I find some good games to stream?

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK (embed)
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV (embed)
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt (embed)
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG (embed)
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide: https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg (embed)

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males

Tsunderia Auditions have opened:

AkioAir auditions are opening very soon!

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

>> No.28173088

First for sex with /asp/ies!

>> No.28173129

I hope not, I'm just nice to everyone, I hope I don't hurt anybody's feelings

>> No.28173271

Lumi has such a whorish design

>> No.28173308

sex with maid deku

>> No.28173391

Being groomed by your favorite babi!

>> No.28173395

For me it’s primrose

>> No.28173446

me too, except it was the second because i'm my own schizo.

>> No.28173483

Miru my beloved!

>> No.28173521

Kaiser my beloved!

>> No.28173544

Willow my beloved!

>> No.28173873

I got my first rrat and that makes me happy

>> No.28173887

alright so i have no money so i can't pay someone to draw/rig me a model, do i have to go back to shitty vroid since i can't do my own 2D?

>> No.28173974

If it gets views, it gets views.

>> No.28173979

you could just draw your own png if you hate your model that much.

>> No.28174058

Geli not really my beloved but I'm weak to the glasses freckles combo

>> No.28174094

that's the fun part, my art is terrible so why would anybody want to see it

>> No.28174297

Who are the most groomable babis and who are the most groomer babis

>> No.28174310

post your art, then

>> No.28174362

Why are you bringing him up? He's definitely not an /asp/ie anymore

>> No.28174479

Thought anyone and everyone who posted here even once is and forever will be an aspie

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unfinished thing i did, yuck

>> No.28174775

I dunno who the current /asp/ies are. If they're still in the discord I consider them one until they leave.

>> No.28174907

Your art is better than you think. Making a shitty first rig in Live2D isn't hard and is honestly better than using a .png that glows whenever your mic picks up audio.
If you're too lazy to do that, look up HONK. It's a $12 program where the only extra thing you'd need to get it working is drawing additional mouth shapes for all the sounds you can make.

>> No.28175004

Me, anon

>> No.28175048

>Feel like my voice is kind of shrill and weird for a dude and very mumbly. Also I feel like I try to be funny and say things that are just lame/unfunny.

To the anon that said this in the last thread, think about all the other vtubers with grainy annoying voices that have an audience for that reason. Not to mention how actually unfunny they are.
If you actually get around to streaming and work on using your voice more properly it's going to naturally improve and you'll just get used to hearing your voice to the point where it's almost somebody else's.

>> No.28175064

who are you

>> No.28175186

I only got a half rrat. I just don’t wanna selfpost cause people will implicate my friends in whatever schizo ramblings they come up with for me…

>> No.28175188

Who who, who who

>> No.28175239

Bit of a weird question. If I were to have been accused of grooming a child (with no sexual acts actually performed) and had substantial evidence of doing such (but without being convicted), who do you think would be more likely to take me? Holostars or NijisanjiEN? Purely hypothetical, of course.

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>> No.28175303

Kaiser? Never heard of them.

>> No.28175318

I want to use Juniper as my crash dummy!

>> No.28175375

Kaiser!?!? I've never even heard of her!!!

>> No.28175397

I am now extremely confused.

>> No.28175417

I want to groom a cute (single) femchuuba, but they don't exist

>> No.28175456

literally tested rigging the face of this last night and failed horribly

>> No.28175551

Why just single? ntr her boyfriend if need be

>> No.28175600

Its me anon! You don't recognize me ?

>> No.28175672

Then why ask the question to begin with if you know the answer?

>> No.28175686

I'm a single femchuuba but I'm not cute nor groomable, so that's probably why

>> No.28175704

Does having the mature stream label negativity affect viewership? If so, how much?

>> No.28175771

what exactly are you hoping for? Pity? Free art? Just go back to your vroid if you think it's your only options you've exhausythetany alternative

>> No.28175774

Sorry. Just a riff on a dumb old joke.

>> No.28175775

juniper you may not feel as cute as every other girl in the server but i truly love your slurry voice and enthusiasm for the simple pleasure of picross. be my wife.

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Don't worry about it, they are talking about me. The situation you described is sort of similar to mine although to protect myself i will say there is no evidence in my case and i have never actually done anything like that.

>> No.28175926

just venting about it because my friends don't care at all

>> No.28176035

Oh no, I call bullshit too. I've just been thinking about what I want to do with my life and everything I've ever known for years now has been content creation, streaming included. I figured vtubing might be a natural fit for me, so I was considering applying for Niji or Holo. If they look up thinks attached to my real name, though, I want to find out which one would be way more resistant to take me on. Reputation and all that in case my identity were to ever get out.

>> No.28176205

Every femchuuba is groomable. Challenge me.

>> No.28176467

If it comes out to the public they'll probably have to kick you out either way. As for who's going to take you... i don't know and nobody would be able to tell you. Besides are you big enough that this is even a consideration?

>> No.28176485

Holo appears more selective in general. They have so few new vtubers after all. They also seem more purity minded. Though I don't see why you wouldn't apply to both of you can.

>> No.28176519

Is this a larp or are you retarded? "Which corpo is more accepting of child predators" is just one of the dumbest things you can ask.

>> No.28176524

>I did something for the very first time in my life and it wasn't good, I can't believe it sucks.

What did you expect dude? My first rig was garbage but at least on the second and third one I had something passable.

>> No.28176580

To be fair, they're Japanese corps. Half of them are child predators.

>> No.28176780

>not interesting
>has speech impediment
>extremely difficult to make laugh
I should just give up

>> No.28176891

Everyone is interesting if they know what aspects of themselves to highlight and how.

>> No.28176900

Lose weight. Just don't be fat and you'll be attractive. Yes, we can tell you're fat despite being a vtuber.

>> No.28176965

Examples of fat voiced chuubas?

>> No.28177061

>implying that that person typed at all like i do
but i have been thinking about starting vocal warmups before stream…. thank you for the extra push

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>Just don't be fat and you'll be attractive.
On the contrary, I say she should eat more. Especially on stream.

>> No.28177345

Thank you for the date idea, i think I'll take out my viewers to a restaurant...

>> No.28177401

I used to feel the same way, but apparently people come to my streams mainly for my voice

>> No.28177465

I look forward to it...

>> No.28177545

I wanna groom maple!

>> No.28177593

It mostly stemmed from some prude who isnt even aware of normalfag social media considering what was joked about acceptable

Everyone can take whatever is mundane about them and make themselves interesting, it just takes effort and shifting how you view yourself, some self esteem is insanely important for making yourself likeable and marketable

>> No.28177597

I wonder how old Juniper is, she sleeps very early, she has a super old computer and plays picross and solitaire for fun, she has a vegetable garden. She must be over 30 or something because those are all old lady hobbies. She's super cute!

>> No.28177621

Kebab or something fancier?
Also how would you feel about someone taking you to a fast food joint on the first date Kaiser?

>> No.28177733

Maple is a weak girl who cant do much by herself? But she can cook and had the tightest pussy around

>> No.28177832

Be my vtuber gf, we'll both be a vtuber couple.

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>> No.28178031

I once had a date at the most depressing arby's and i bonded with them about the fact how miserable it was. There's beauty in everything as long as you can share the memory with someone. I will not date you at Burger King though alto...

>> No.28178142

i love juniper's slurry voice!! it's not a bad thing! i love you juniper!

>> No.28178249

not me

>> No.28178305

dunno who that picture's of but jesus christ its hot as fuck

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closeup 4u

>> No.28178688

Dumbass. Wendy's is where it's at.

>> No.28178835

don't i have like, an obviously masculine voice?

>> No.28178840

No one would dare challenge the discord god...

>> No.28178947

geli cuuuute

>> No.28178967

I think I'm gonna ammend my goals from making friends and having a small audience of regular viewers. (Which if not completely finished is not far away if I continue inclining at my current rate) My new goal is to model my content on ssethtzeentach but with the obvious difference that it will be as a streamer. To present strange and complex games in an entertaining way and to make other people want to also play these strange games. I've been playing these types of games for long enough that I probably could do this for quite some time without researching new ones. Obviously this is kind of a difficult goal, and my audience might be limited for such a thing but it's nice to have a goal that I can actually aim for that's success or failure is not related to external factors like viewer counts or followers. Hopefully an audience would be attracted to someone like this so I guess we will see.

>> No.28179027

please don't copy his video titles, i hate it when people do that. but he's very entertaining so good luck to you.

>> No.28179197

Kek, you'd fucking hate me

But you're so easy to tease

>> No.28179302

I wanna matepress Maple so much!

>> No.28179301

What's the difference between that and veadotube, besides one being paid and the other free?

>> No.28179698

Is it easier to get recognition as a small streamer with a vtuber/pngtuber avatar, or is it roughly the same as someone who shows face or no cam?

>> No.28179809

You're streaming in [current year] and the vtuber bubble has popped, the sad truth is that unless you incessantly market yourself and have a unique gimmick you're just as normal and faceless as the rest

>> No.28179844

I don't really aim to copy his humor or style exactly as such a thing is probably not something I could pull off especially live. More like I want to emulate his focus on showcasing obscure and niche games in a positive way. I really admire that he is able to make me walk away from a video thinking "wow aren't video games amazing?" Compared to many other video game content that is so cynical and makes you walk away thinking "ugh why is the video game industry such garbage". How to present it in an entertaining way will be up to me to figure out but I think it's ok.

>> No.28179871

Stop telling yourself that, I think you're pretty cute.

>> No.28180050

Grooming maple until he becomes a nice boywife!

>> No.28180200

Your least favorite /asp/cord fag, go:

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God you're fucking cute

>> No.28180447

I don't know any of you fuckers.

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if you're m*le, you should quit already

>> No.28180808

Ignore >>28180200 and say your favorite

>> No.28180828

I'm sure you could get away with it, but if you emulate him too well you'll get stuck being a copycat and never reach the same level of audience he has.
Like you mentioned don't pay attention to views or subs. This seems like a passion project and thus you should only focus on making the content as good as best you can.

>> No.28181091

Everyone in the aspcord is a groomer or is a victim of grooming. I would know, Im a groomer who got groomed by a groomer

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>> No.28181433

Nobody seems to realize that the term "grooming" is used for older people trying to get favors from underage individuals. You can only get groomed if you're a minor, otherwise is just emotional manipulation.

>> No.28181500

Spoken like a true groomer

>> No.28181686

ok Jignx

>> No.28181713

the two faggots that went full autism last night about how disgusting it was when people were talking about boobies souring the conversation instead of just walking away if it isnt their thing.

>> No.28181962

I don't think it will be obvious I'm trying to emulate him. And I dont care that much about audience. This is just a hobby and even having 20+ viewers average is well above what I expect certainly.

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>> No.28182490

Me (I am very funny and have good content and am very cute)

>> No.28182698

This one

>> No.28182873

that never happened

>> No.28183106

Grooming just sounds more fun to say. Also the streamer is in a position of power compared to the viewer.
I do think it's inappropriate behavior to groom your viewers.

>> No.28183188

i want to get groomed :(

>> No.28183238

I don’t. I hope she grooms me again in the future. I love her.

>> No.28183311

literally who

>> No.28183379

No, it's what the term has been conflated to mean now. Grooming has nothing to do with age, that's just the most common use people are aware of because of it's severity. Grooming is just a type of social manipulation.

>> No.28183485

Could be Miru, she's thirsty for affection, could be a guy shitposting.

>> No.28183962

I reverse groomed myself -_-

>> No.28184143

a woman wouldn’t say that and mean it. Every woman gets hundreds of direct dms randomly, unexpectedly. 80% of guys would be lucky to get a single unsolicited one. The other 20 of guys probably get quite a few and that’s it. Female experience. If she does want to be groomed she should just groom a viewer and stop fishing for attention

did you try to groom a viewer and get groomed? why did you try to groom them not cool

>> No.28184242

I'm single but that's also because I have specific tastes.

>> No.28184554

And nobody qualifies? What is it anon, how bad is it?

>> No.28184566

Damn maple straight up called a female a bitchy slut in another way... What a dumb sperg.

>> No.28184719

NTA but we might be more common than you think.
My standards are 2D characters only. Chuubas are dangerous and I'm groomable to other chuubas until they start breaking immersion.

>> No.28184801

Hah. My ideal is specific to the point it'd out me immediately, and I'm open about it. Just so you know though anon, did you know that finding men under 5'7" is as rare as finding men 6' and over?

>> No.28184830

Based. I love him.

>> No.28184981

pedo ain moment

>> No.28184995

I suggest a thread name change to /grm/

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>> No.28185107

Ah yes, resident /asp/ie, Calliope Mori.

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>> No.28185710

I wouldn't even be surprised. What the fuck is she doing.

>> No.28186613

rip one of the best aspies.

>> No.28186630

>xia graduating

>> No.28186636

fip xia

>> No.28186752

Why though?

>> No.28186771

place your bets
>inclined so hard that she got intimidated by her own success
>harassed into submission by stalkers
>picked up by a corpo

>> No.28186781

xia is a fucking chad, holy shit. Shows up out of nowhere, starts gaining lots of traction, gets raids from wvt staples, *collabs* with wvt staples, all while having shit stream quality the whole time. Then she just quits when things really start to take off. Huge respect, I'm sorry I ever crabbed on you xia

>> No.28186864

Xia must have been the one to post Finana’s audition video
She must have gotten picked up by Niji

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but she just selfpost yesterday in the backyardigan. what happened? did the schizos got her or she's a schizo

>> No.28187114

The signs were all there.
She got picked up by a corp.

>> No.28187142

The girl who was pushing for a donothon for stream equipment left as quickly as she came

>> No.28187215

Hey, what’s a good camera for face cam and tracking? I’m working on a male vtuber and I primarily talk about robots to begin with.

>> No.28187265

that + the fact that people simply don't go from literally nothing to corpo this fast is why I'm not buying the rrat
she said she was gonna go on hiatus after this week at some point so I'm just assuming whatever life situation caused that got more serious in the interim

>> No.28187317

100% tsunderia.
Replacement goldfish when?
would be funny if the next super /asp/ie is also a premade

>> No.28187434

But Anon, if Xia is Tsunderia, who posted that audition of Finana’s?

>> No.28187441

Well shit nigga

>> No.28187455

My knees are making a crater in the Earth. Seriously impressive. Good luck out there!

>> No.28187503

finana herself or a turboschizo

>> No.28187575

They introduced a new character named xia while I was gone and she already graduated to a sooper dooper real chooba job? What the

>> No.28187701

They said I ‘got’ in though, not they were already in; if it was Finana’s though that’s pretty based of her

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how does this make you feel, /asp/? This random girl who had all this success didn't even enjoy it. Meanwhile, despite all the effort you've put in, despite enjoying streaming and wanting success more than anything, have failed to achieve even a fraction of her success. This is it, this is the ultimate reckoning of /asp/.

Also have some respect, she's said she's not going to a corpo, so believe her and stop being fucking dumb

>> No.28187923

she did it wrong

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didn't read

>> No.28187933

It doesn't make me feel anything bad because I knew from the beginning that it wasn't gonna be easy.
Good for her.

>> No.28187945

the difference between me and her is that i actually like streaming regardless of the numbers i pull

making it is a mindset

>> No.28187994

why is success always related to selling out to a corpo

>> No.28187999

I don't compare myself to other chuubas, so I'm not mad. I'm very happy for her success, but I do wish she got to take it further. I only wish her the best with her current situation

>> No.28188009

please give me a full picture of this cropped Lumi tummy

>> No.28188019


goddamn this is some rapid-fire cope lmao

>> No.28188034

Why was Cordy kicked from the discord though?

>> No.28188061

it'd be nice if she still did some song covers from time to time on youtube or whatever but honestly as long as I still see her in chats then that's fine (whether it be as xia or as a random viewer)
I don't know I think I just got abandonment issues and never like it when graduation = ghosting everyone for good

>> No.28188147

bro i'm just sitting here enjoying playing vidya to an audience as a funny little character idk what's cope about that

i literally never watched any of xia's streams

she seems nice tho

>> No.28188150

Pretty sure the full art was the OP image of the previous thread.

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How is it cope if I've been rooting for her the whole time?

>> No.28188169

I think he left himself

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it's boring. don't you have a juicy drama happening in the aspcord or something?

>> No.28188229

So who has been shitcanned from the chatroom since I was last in the aspiring vtubers and startup thread

>> No.28188230

Yes, but I'm going to pretend that he was kicked.

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well its about that time, gonna be streaming some sythetik here at 7pm. feel free to drop by and witness the ultra violence. https://www.twitch.tv/kumavennas

>> No.28188287

It's ok because we esexed.

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>> No.28188317

Damn it Ain, leave some for the rest of us.

>> No.28188369

I told you my objective in VTubing was to anime girl LARP and getting e-laid. I'm a man on a mission.

>> No.28188424

Fuck off back to your vacation Elliott

>> No.28188684

You're not getting my girl, I'm going to groom her first

>> No.28188971

Sloth wins again

>> No.28189031

You've already failed your objective then.

>> No.28189366

when's the threesome

>> No.28189396

Anonymous has taken the lead

>> No.28189454

Is there a link to the Discord?

>> No.28189555

>implying it didn't already happen

>> No.28189569

Sorry, it's full.

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aspcord goodbye normal girl! edition

>> No.28189932

>This random girl who had all this success
You'll just call it cope, but why do you all act like she was the holy grail of indie vtubing that suddenly exploded in popularity? She had 10 viewer average or so. She did sing very well, but she was hardly an overnight sensation like you're making her out to be.

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Sloth, post something! Save us from this literally who graduation shitposting

>> No.28190261

my sense of scale is always supremely fucked when i go into the indie circles. i remember watching hololive like "uh oh kiara cant even break 5k ccv shes becoming irrelevant" or looking at small corpos and going "wow 100 ccv? do they even earn money? whats the fucking point", then i come here and its like "HOLY FUCK XXX RETAINED ALL 30 VIEWERS DURING A RAID THEY ARE GUNNA MAKE IT!!"

>> No.28190450

It was her support and collabs with "big" /wvt/ names that really stood out. She accomplished all that in a month, imagine what she could do in a year.

>> No.28190565

Sloth don't post your twitch stats...

>> No.28190700

That was not me LOL

>> No.28190838

I think I just realized that /asp/ is actually about offering a beginner’s level egosearching experience to new vtubers.

>> No.28191043

>"big" /wvt/ names
who, koragi? because with all due respect she's the kinda girl that'll collab with anybody that asks nicely enough and doesn't come across like they're in it for the clout.

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So when's the discord imploding?
Next week?

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>> No.28191882

When it comes to indies, numbers can honestly get a bit weird and "effort" is honestly a serious metric to put into consideration despite it being kind of hard to quantify at times.

For someone that's relatively "low effort", we'll use Nemu (fish) as an example her numbers are outstanding. While she's an entertaining streamer, throughout her growth she really hasn't done anything impressive aside from that odd cooking stream she did and a few one-off streams, otherwise 90% of her content (before she went into cruise control react stream mode) were just playing games and being herself. She barely did anything on Twitter, there weren't many collabs or interactions outside of a stint with Leaflit and a couple of her friends, and overall did very little to grow herself but. Nemu has always put out relatively low-effort content, but as a person she's cute and entertaining which leads to much better growth.

Compare that to some other smaller chuubas (Krimbo for example since he comes to mind first though I know he's kind of polarizing) that genuinely puts a lot of effort into his content, art, networking, and just his stream and brand in general. Despite all these dozens/hundreds of hours, he's barely reached a tenth of what Nemu has despite a lot of her early content just being her hitting Live and fucking around in videogames.
100 viewers is a lot when you're barely trying, but 100 viewers when you're putting in a thousand times the effort as someone putting in less than you is less impressive, but I'd consider both "good" in most cases regardless of the circumstance, it's just the context surrounding it that you can use to take into consideration how well someone's doing.

/asp/ies are a prime example because some of them dump retarded hours into things (voice, art, desig, rigging, networking, and all the other "reps" people like to jerk off on top of all the overthinking) and most do about as well as some random 2view that's just posting on twitter and going live.

>> No.28192022

Every week

>> No.28192045

It’s true. I’m the random 2view.

>> No.28192200

I wish i could put big effort into things, some of the /asp/ies motivated me to try harder, especially people with so many skills like xia, but in the end my content in the grand scheme of things is unwatchable. I got 7-10 viewers on my last couple streams and that's probably as much as i'll ever get but maybe that's fine.

I think i have to look at streaming less of an official thing and more just a hangout for a couple people.

>> No.28192201

I'll say one thing, Xia did the smart thing by just buying a booth model and going live. I've seen a lot of people spend thousands on original models and spending months hyping themselves up and networking on social media only to come to the same conclusion Xia did. It's so much better to dip your toes into the water instead of doing a cannonball.

>> No.28192255

I was very against the booth model but now that she quit I get it.

>> No.28192282

Is getting 5-8 viewers or around about more impressive on Youtube or Twitch? Genuine question here; I like streaming on YouTube but people say it's way less good for growth than Twitch, but I've been streaming and getting a bunch of subs pretty regularly after every stream I do at America time.

>> No.28192288

My whole stream is decidedly low effort and somehow I've built up a little community of regulars and hit all the requirements for Affiliate.

>> No.28192514

I’m really glad I feel like my Live2D was worth it. I commissioned one to use from the beginning and right before I started streaming I got some serious cold feet and felt kinda like a dope for spending several hundred dollars on a new hobby right out the gate, but I think after several months of streaming I can safely say that it was money well spent. I can see myself doing this for at least a few years even if it doesn’t go anywhere.

>> No.28192586

But it could have been you and you know it.

>> No.28192585

No-one's content is unwatchable! To be honest, most of the problem is that people just genuinely don't get eyes on them.

At one point after my debut (which I got 50 viewers on and retained quite a few even with a horrible Vroid avatar over a month BEFORE the whole advent of Hololive English; I had like 20 or so viewers on my next few streams weirdly enough) I dropped off because I stopped shilling more often and a lot of the time I had stopped streaming games that people watched. I'm aiming to work back up to streaming consistently though, and a lot of my YouTube subs come after every YouTube stream or so - I know people will be able to like me, all I need to do is to get them to see me!

>> No.28192606

how 2 find good live 2d model riggers? i dont mind waiting on a waitlist for someone whos good, but im having a really hard time finding someone. i already have the art done, layers seperated, etc, just need someone to actually rig it. anyone have any recc's or know of how i can find someone even half decent?

>> No.28192653

Did u read da OP

>> No.28192717

I recommend Marburg because I believe in incest and keeping it in the family. And he's pretty good.

>> No.28192751

Did you pay Marburg?

>> No.28192772

Twitter kind of sucks so you have to do a bit of legwork with the searches. I search the Live2D hashtag and add the word "commission", which usually finds people both open and closed and filters out most JP riggers. I also follow a few and check out their Likes, RTs, etc but that was kind of a side ffect and not intentional. I actually found mine through something another rigger retweeted, usually they like and retweet a lot of people.

you can add "filter:videos" to show only live2D example videos as well

>> No.28192919

NTA but I am proud to say that I paid Marburg very well.

>> No.28192937

He doesn't work for free.

>> No.28192980

Beautiful and wonderful to hear. Nice

>> No.28193021

It's "more impressive" on youtube, but choosing the harder route gives you no benefits. Twitch viewers have a two-fold positive. They're easier to get (still tough, but easier than getting youtube viewers), and each one is worth more money than a youtube viewer/more incentives and avenues for them to throw money at streamers.

>> No.28193024

from these threads alone, @Marbuccino and @Kanijam2 both have a great track record, marbu is a local aspie and is considered to be under charging as well so right there you have one affordable and one premium option

>> No.28193060

you sure about that?

>> No.28193129

Yeah i guess so. I don't even know how to advertise menhera monday, it's literally just a stream where i talk about negative things but it's the one stream i put most of my efforts into making assets, videos and scripts. I think i just kinda accepted not shilling anything anywhere and see which poor souls end up on my stream. Maybe the """asmr""" streams can get some people interested in the things i have to say. networking still remains the least interesting thing for me and it's very off-brand for me to positively talk about my own content and pretend like i believe the things i do are actually worth to be watched.

>> No.28193258

Sounds like he paid him!
In any case, let me make it clear I’m not trying to undervalue his work with that question; he’s really good.

Kaiser, I have no idea what draws you to streaming man. I’m really not trying to chastise you or anything, but the way you talk about your own stream mystifies me. Hope you’re holding up over there.

>> No.28193260

I am a fellow booth model haver, am I gmi?

>> No.28193378

I feel like I'm too stupid to actually write any kind of engaging content, I just want to say funne things into a microphone

>> No.28193443

Have you perhaps considered streaming, maybe with a virtual avatar of some sort

>> No.28193633

Everyone starts out inexperienced. I did too once (well, I also had a video editing channel that had an 8-digit viewed AMV at the ripe age of 10 or so but I don't count that); just believe in yourself and you will grow the more you write and practice!

>> No.28193644

I hate video games and so run into the same content issue

>> No.28193690

I love talking and i have a desire to be heard. There's nothing better than pressing the go-live button, closing my eyes and just think about saying things. I want to talk, a lot. It's just a very selfish thing. I want people to hear me even if i'm providing no value to anyone. It's hard to explain, but i genuinely believe i stream out of selfish reasons and therefore i would never try to talk people into watching me.

>> No.28193721

You don't have to stream video games! You can also stream other stuff, like dramatic readings, looking up history, skits and stuff, karaoke... a lot of things!

>> No.28193941

Hey, lemme let you in on a little secret:
Everyone streams for selfish reasons.
Streaming for fun? That's selfish. Streaming because it's your job? That's kind of selfish too! Humans are selfish in their nature, and that's not a bad thing at all - there's a reason the most selfless people are literally labelled 'saints' and the like; giving up all your mortal possessions (which keeping to yourself btw is selfish) is something people do in order to get away from human nature. Enjoyment and hobbies are both forms of selfishness; you're doing what YOU want without having to care about anyone else!

So what does it matter that you're streaming for a selfish reason? Everyone else is, so why can't you?

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>> No.28194059

not kaiser and I don't want to feed that kind of menhera, but I can understand not liking your own selfish feelings. Just because everybody indulges in them doesn't mean you should too.

>> No.28194187

Just Chatting is one of the more popular categories on Twitch, and there is of course also YouTube. You don’t have to play video games.

>> No.28194207

You have to be selfish because nobody else cares about you

>> No.28194267


>> No.28194410

Why ya think anon in my case i been streamin for 8+ hours for a week? Do you think i don't enjoy what i do?

>> No.28194434

goodbye xia, thanks for the good times <3

>> No.28194533

Yes, both very true. There is genuinely no need to flagellate yourself just for wanting to run an internet radio show where you also happen to pretend to be a cartoon of a Japanese girl.
The way you described it just didn’t sound enjoyable to me, but I will concede that I also don’t have your brain.

>> No.28194747

It's about the broad consistancy anon, i like to stream alot and daily, but just because i might not peak enjoyment or satisfaction, it doesin't mean i hate it.

>> No.28195029

How do I find actual 5 dollar jobs on fiverr

>> No.28195080

>xia's second to last stream will be with azu
god fucking dammit not like this

>> No.28195178

Oh no.

>> No.28195286

I guarantee you doing sseth style stuff will come across as cringe and unfunny

>> No.28195558

>comparing a male to a female
terrible post

>> No.28195654

The Live2D discord is your best resource for this

>> No.28195709

Wait xia is graduating? What did you assholes do?

>> No.28195752

I slurped her clitty and she left vtubing to be with me.

>> No.28195777

She needs to start College and she feels like Vtubing isn’t for her.

>> No.28195804

Hi Sigma

>> No.28196188

I do understand this. It's more so, the streams i do aren't tailored towards entertaining others. Last menhera monday i took a 10-15 period where i literally tried to say the most toxic menhera things to myself without regard if anyone even wants to watch that. I feel like i'm experimenting on my viewers. But then again, nothing prevents them from just leaving. But this still leaves me with the problem of networking. Even if i accept that i'm selfish and i make content for myself and there's still people who want to see that, how do you advertise something like that without flatout lying?

I already try to be rather neutral with my twitter posts and stuff, but i have no intention of being overly positive and putting on the social media facade and stuff. I know there are ways of doing this, but my type of content is bad to make clips of or generate any other content so i'm deadlocked into having non-advertisable content on top of it being something that isn't the usual stuff that appeals to a broad audience.

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I love her

>> No.28196464

>Last menhera monday i took a 10-15 period where i literally tried to say the most toxic menhera things to myself without regard if anyone even wants to watch that.
Hey man you should uh not do that to yourself imo

>> No.28196604

>ssethtzeentach but with the obvious difference that it will be as a streamer.

You realize he edits videos heavily right? A good example of that is Internet Historian. His videos are tolerable but his streams are utter dog shit.

>> No.28196699

>dog back
>xia gone
rrat bros what do we think of this??

>> No.28196915

I'm pretending to be a little boy so I can be groomed right?

>> No.28197048

You’d be pissed if he got even one collab with her

>> No.28197057

For every fags trying to get into Hololive. I will make your life hell, I will genuinely try to fucking kill you and your family. I will fucking slit your throats. I want you dead. I will kill you. I have nothing else going in my life, I will fucking murder you no matter the cost. I will ensure you suffer till your last breath. DIE FUCKING DIE.

>> No.28197433

Xia was just Dog's natural voice, you couldn't tell?

>> No.28197453

?? schizo.

>> No.28197597

What do you mean natural voice? Isn't dog's voice just dog's voice

>> No.28197751

It was an experiment. I wanted to know what it sounds and feels like if you say these things out loud knowing someone else will hear it. The results are actually quite positive. I felt weird doing it and it also didn't feel genuine which means that the thoughts if "I want to die" "I want to disappear" and "All my friends hate me" aren't actually things i genuinely believe, it's just the brainworms.

Menhera Monday is for this sort of stuff. Exploring the negativity of our minds and approaching it with an open mind in way that allows us to confront it together instead of being alone with it on 4am on a Monday. I'd be there for you if you wanted to say anything and if not you get some solidarity knowing there's someone else out there thinking the same things as you. "Should not" should not be a thing. No matter how negative, on Menhera Monday you are allowed to say it and you should be because you know, by the time the clock comes around, life will continue. And I'll be there next Monday (or you know in 14 days, because i don't do this every week), because the demons will also be back to haunt you. And i'll be there to fight them with you.

I apologize, I sort of imagine a world where my stream can be all that, but in the end it's just me incoherently rambling. I have this dream where my viewers can draw something from these streams. All my life I have dealt with my own negativity to the point where i actually got so good at it, that i might be able to help others. Of course they could just get therapy and actual help, but maybe if they can't get it or can't bring themselves to get it... maybe an ugly 30 something year old nerd pretending to be an anime girl is the second best thing.

>> No.28197850

Can't be Xia was actually good at singing kek

>> No.28198926

Normally I would indulge in rrat spinning but morally if dog has been gone for that reason it doesn't feel right. Shame about Xia still though, she was going places.
t. schizo morals

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>> No.28199397

Which babi

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>> No.28199585

she IS going places

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i'm more than half-convinced that she got picked up by someone and was told to break contact with whatever previous communities she was part of as part of her NDA/contract

>> No.28199947

Zero orgs function like this.

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I'm ngmi to monday...

>> No.28200657

I double dog dare you, pussy! I don’t give a shit about your oshi.

>> No.28200915

Odie from Garfield. He’s the dog in Garfield. Not the cat. That’s Garfield

>> No.28200961

whenever the owner posts cp

>> No.28201212

considering her graduation padlet says she'll still be around I doubt that
I think the corpo rrat people keep spinning isn't even based on her talents and is solely people wanting a grander reason for why someone would quit beyond "I'm just not feeling it." Like they forget lots of people get into this as a hobby and lots of people jump from hobby to hobby when one isn't working out for them.

>> No.28201433

well I meant more like she's going places with college and irl life, the org stuff seems really unlikely but if it were true good for her lol

>> No.28201438

I won't cope and just admit that her rapid incline made me feel down a lot and triggered some brain worms, but I don't wanna see her graduate. She's nice.

>> No.28201563

The shy one

>> No.28201567

So....which fem /asp/ie is replacing Xia? I'm hoping a new /asp/ie is just about to show up.

>> No.28201627

she motivated me cause if she can do it (You) can do it, and I don't even want to be a vtuber I just think this applies everywhere

>> No.28201692

If I'm going to pay session musicians anyway should I shell out the extra money to write an original song instead of a cover

>> No.28202023

Yeah, watching her pump out streams despite being 2fps made me get off my butt and stream more lol

>> No.28202813

No one care about an original song unless you're somewhat established

>> No.28202850

I feel like shouting out the new aspies once in a while (or do the perceive thing like in wvt) but not sure how you guys would feel about it. Watchu think?

>> No.28202921

whatever you feel like

>> No.28203012

I figured this was the case, but then again I also think nobody cares about covers unless you're established either

>> No.28203024

>Alto trying to groom Newfypuppie again

>> No.28203846

Isn't that Kitsura?

>> No.28203885

Sloth didn't post anything...

>> No.28204057

Hi. What's up? I'm here, sorry I was sleeping..

>> No.28204131

sloth PLEASE stop samefagging

>> No.28204160

I love you sloth

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You're not sloth. Sloth is funny.

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>> No.28204896

I wouldn't call one post 'back'..

>> No.28204985

self shill post
I made a commercial for myself last night and im kinda proud of it.

>> No.28205026

If all you guys insist on namefagging, why are you on 4chan, a site for anonymous niggas?

>> No.28205150

pretty neat

>> No.28205193

your fat lol

>> No.28205311

Sloth is still /asp/ie #1 in terms of extracting donations from viewers.

>> No.28205377

But she's lagging behind in cum extraction. The babis are winning there.

>> No.28205396

thanks babe

>> No.28205468

I'm a newfag what is namefagging

>> No.28205497

bro get rid of the fucking tits

>> No.28205527

Sloth, I wanna sleep with you. What to do?

>> No.28205654

I don’t get it either. There’s a discord!

>> No.28205694

no it gets views and its part of the lore

>> No.28205950

damn bro just be normal lmao

>> No.28206007

The model is bizarre but I am interested. Good job on the commercial

>> No.28206051

xia posted this

>> No.28206361

thank you

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i'm normal xia, i swear i am look at how normal i am...

>> No.28206531

The concept of a stream talking about mental health is great but this is just vulgar displays of your own mental illness at this point.

>> No.28206631

>willing to do die for vtubers that will never give you time of day

>> No.28206664

Post the original if you've got it. I want to do this.

>> No.28206683

Die normie

>> No.28206851

Yes, exactly. I wanted to say exactly this to him but couldn’t find the best way to put it. Encouraging people to engage in the worst negative self-talk they can or at least subjecting them to you doing it to yourself just doesn’t sound healthy.

>> No.28206921

The show is called "Garfield and friends", by the way

>> No.28207093

So I am aware. I am of course referencing the original manga, “Garfield,” you filthy anime-only pleb

>> No.28207164

Slot I want to spend the night with you.
Name your price.

>> No.28207203

Is there an audience for male vtubers with very deep voice doing ASMR and games?

>> No.28207243

Nah sounds gross. You could get arrested

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>> No.28207319

ok fine i'll go back to vroid, can't wait to have tech issues when my 1050ti and random intel processor can't handle it and a game

>> No.28207395

I remember the episode where they deployed the GarField for the first time

>> No.28207530

It's your first night in prison and your cellmate tells you how it's going to be ASMR

>> No.28207600

Failing to pay tribute to another form of media that Jim Davis was proud of will be your downfall. You're missing out on the lore because of your old ways.

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your google reps anon (here you go)

I get this and i said this about my stream before too. What i have noticed is that if you are in a bad spot having someone try to encourage you to think positive is not helping or even having a negative effect. What helped me out of my bad spot is relating to someone with similar problems. And that's what i have been trying to find out, if this can help others aswell. Mentally these streams don't affect me. And i sincerely hope that no viewer feels impacted by them negatively either. But maybe i'm trying to do something i'm not skilled enough to do (psychology / therapy).

I haven't gotten negative responses yet, and they might not tell me, but if i do get that feedback from a viewer i'll probably stop the streams altogether.

Not yet, I still have something to do.

>> No.28207862

I can't sing very well (I am gonna get singing lessons in the future) but I hope I can be like Xia in the future!

>> No.28207922

Hah! Yeah, good times, especially with O.D.I.E. finally making a comeback and kicking some ass.

>> No.28207981

>have had sex in a public place
This is what normalfags do?

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did i win?

>> No.28208058

apparently kaiser had sex in a public pool

>> No.28208270

A kiddie pool.

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I haven't gone out on weekends as much anymore since chuubaing. I'm not in shape but not fat. Kinda just normal.

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>What i have noticed is that if you are in a bad spot having someone try to encourage you to think positive is not helping or even having a negative effect.
I don’t think that’s a very universal experience but I could be wrong. My friends and I will vent to each other, but ultimately we encourage each other not to stew in our negativity and try to look at things as positively as we can, or at least just try to keep the times we share with each other largely positive. That is ultimately just my experience, I guess.
I get where you’re coming from but I just do not agree with you that encouraging someone to be positive in the face of mental illness is always a bad thing.
I hope you realize I’m not trying to tear you down or discourage you from streaming, I am just often unable to not voice my concern for anonymous imageboard posters whenever it’s weighing on my mind.

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>> No.28209329

So I recorded myself singing Happy Birthday just in case anyone needs to say happy birthday to them on their day (also as just a voice thing)

>> No.28209403

Yeah i think this bingo is kinda weaksauce, but a couple things i can't really fill out. We don't even have proms in germany. I had the same thought about the in shape thing.

oi, it was sort of a submerged romantic love cave thinger but they probably didn't expect people to go all the way there. it was empty. also wouldn't recommend the chloride in the water makes you stick together like glue.

no worries, i'm taking everything as constructive criticism. it's a touchy subject to build a stream around, i'm trying to be as tactful as possible and i want to respect every viewer. If through some freak accident i incline i'll stop doing these streams. But you gave me the idea to reassure my viewers more. Even if they don't talk I want to be there for them and i'll repeat things more like "if this makes you uncomfortable please don't stay not even for my sake". I also encourage people, but I want to give my encouragement more substance by letting them know I understand the position they are in.

>> No.28209565

the notion is sweet but falls flat

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This is who you guys are watching.
My parents tell me they're proud of me, but they're lying.
I use twitter for vtubing, technically that's a social app.
Kill me. As side-note I did ask my crush to prom, but she turned me down because she was into girls.

>> No.28209924

Yeah I understand
Mainly it was for the voice thing but I figured it could help some anons out too

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This sucks!

>> No.28210351

Mush it

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does e-dating count

>> No.28210772

It’s about as real as cyberbullying