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>"suddenly" can stream every day
Curious.

>> No.28165610

>>28165561
I have cured her back
t. Black Jack

>> No.28165649

A miracle happened. Finding out that she only has a few weeks left to collab with people she wants to interact with cured her back overnight.

>> No.28165706

Morphine?

>> No.28165768

>>28165561
Now that she knows she's leaving performance anxiety is gone.

Many such cases.

>> No.28165795

>>28165706
Or deal with it. Not like pain can't be beared if you have reason to bear with it.
Last time is a good motivator

>> No.28165829

>>28165561
No longer has to have a day job (literally the dream).

>> No.28165878

>>28165561
Only possible positive take is that she's taking time off from her actual job to do her last rites for hololive

>> No.28165900

>>28165768
Literally this.
A metaphorical weight has been lifted off her shoulders now that she knows she has only just over a week left of collabs and content before she is done.

>> No.28165905

Making the most of the final run. It's really bittersweet because people will see the most Sana, right before she leaves. It was the same for Coco and you can only hope they had fun and leave without regret.

>> No.28165937

>>28165561
She's in great pain. Why are you making light of her suffering, you horrible monster.

>> No.28165974

>>28165905
From the way Sana is talking and she generally seems happy and relieved plus the fact Ina said they tried to talk to her about staying but she still left shows she is leaving with no regrets.

>> No.28166023

>>28165561
Yes and i'm going to enjoy every single stream

>> No.28166041

she bought a new dog

>> No.28166056
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28166056

>>28165974
>Ina said they tried to talk to her about staying
>no timestamps

>> No.28166159

>>28166056
do your fucking reps
its in her last stream near the beginning.
Kiara also said she knew since she was in america.

>> No.28166168

>>28165974
I think so too. With all the physical pain, she can only stream when she's up to it. No stage performances with others. That's brutal. The others sounded supportive and will remain friends despite her departure, it's making the best out of a crappy situation.

>> No.28166212

>>28166041
Happy for her

>> No.28166224

>>28165974
why did she even join?

>> No.28166275

>>28166159
No timestamps, huh?
I guess you just made it up then.

>> No.28166307

>>28166275
walked into that one, i'm not gonna lie.

>> No.28166377

>>28166224
Shit happens in life. A body altering accident can take a toll in someone's lifen in more ways then one.

>> No.28166428

>>28166377
But that's a rrat.

>> No.28166515

>>28165768
Absolutely, saying as someone who has been there.

>> No.28166544

>>28166056
>its another episode of takos being retarded
Learned nothing yesterday huh?

>> No.28166620

I don't get how the back would ever be the decisive problem, to be honest. She had enough time for other stuff, and you can use facetracking and do zatsu or similar streams while lying down.
Or at least do Twitter spaces, or something instead of many days of nothing. It might have killed her motivation I guess?

>> No.28166748

>>28166377
She literally never mentioned her back in her graduation announcement. If it was the issue, why wouldn't she just say so? If it's bad enough it'd be the most sympathetic reason to graduate, wanting to continue but being physically unable to.

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>>28166544
If you aren't willing to provide factual evidence, then I ain't gonna give your schizo claims any thought.

>> No.28166830

>>28166620
Well think about how many times Sana was probably asked to go to off collabs but couldn't travel? Or knowing that she wouldn't be able to dance in 3d concerts?
That would be enough right there to kill her motivation not even mentioning her art commissions that she also does.

>> No.28166839

>>28165561
I mean, it's obvious that the back issues are exaggerated at least a bit.
True reason for her graduation is the fact that her room mate activities seems to be more interesting for her and she wants to focus on them instead of putting attention into something she seemingly has no passion for.
And you know what? I can fucking respect that and I hope that she will keep winning in her own ways.

>> No.28166911

>>28166748
Why would she? If she mentioned that everyone would accuse Hololive of firing her because of it. Even if Sana said that weren't the case.

>> No.28167012

>>28166056
Watch the beginning of her last ER stream

>> No.28167053

>>28166911
That's nonsense.

>> No.28167112

>>28167012
>still no timestamps

>> No.28167205

>>28167112
You won't get one because even Takos don't want to listen to Ina

>> No.28167246

>>28167053
I wish I could say the same but you know for a fact it would go that way.
It's better to just leave it at Sana and Hololive parting ways instead of bringing up her back which everyone already knows about.
Why possibly create drama when it could just be avoided altogether.

>> No.28167287

>>28167246
You're just making stuff up though.

>> No.28167316

>>28166911
Not more than what's happening now - not giving a reason just ramps up the speculation and arguing. She can always do damage control in either direction to control the message.

>> No.28167321

>>28167112
>we did our best to ask her to stay
8 minute mark on her recent Elden Ring stream

>> No.28167326

>>28167205
I guess that'll be one more person you've failed to convince.

>> No.28167375

People seriously bought the "muh back horts", excuse for her to not stream lol. Literally the least physically demanding job ever, you can be a fucking paraplegic and still stream. She obviously overestimated what would be expected of her in Hololive, as she clearly just thought that this would be a fun side gig to do while her roommate continues doing art shit. Only problem is that unless you become huge like Gura or already put in 1 year + into Hololive, you cannot really treat it like a part time gig.

By far the most mid member to leave Hololive lol

>> No.28167395

>>28167321
>STILL no timestamps

>> No.28167430

>>28167326
?
I was taking the piss out of Ina, not trying to convince anyone of anything.

>> No.28167474

>>28166620
Can't kill what was never there

>> No.28167555
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>>28165561
Be curious about this ya cunt!
this could be one of my favorite chuuba related images ever. i will never get tired of it

>> No.28167575

>>28165561
Back pain causing graduation is just a cope.
She gave up. Her low numbers got to her head. She was poster child of "council is a failure" thing. She also never really connected to other members.
She has no passion to stream and is much happier doing stuff as roommate.

>> No.28167758

>>28167375
>>28167474
Here's the thing I don't get when people say she's lying. How can she possibly get away with it in the first place?
Hololive is literally a job, and when you start to miss work or do poorly on a job due to an injury they're going to want to see proof eventually right?
Unless hololive is the most trusting job in the world and taking her word for it for months then I have absolutely no reason to believe she is lying.

>> No.28167850

>>28167555
right there with you.

>> No.28167855

>>28165561
Dog hort and back hort are gone

>> No.28167863

>>28167375
You haven't proven that the back thing isn't an issue with your post. In fact you basically did the opposite by stating that streaming is a big investment, thereby implying that any further strains on the lifestyle could make things unsustainable.

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>>28167575
>Back pain causing graduation is just a cope.
Here's something to cope about ya poofter!

>> No.28167939

>>28167575
Anons are gullible when it comes to hololive, when in hindsight Sana has a lot of excuses to cover her insecurity and anxieties when streaming live. Believing her "back hort" excuse must be pure retardation.

>> No.28168009

>>28167375
I mean, sitting for 4 hours is not really pleasant thing if you have actual problems + her room mate stuff already demands from her spending hours just sitting.
I still believe that main reason for her is just that she seems happier doing other stuff, but at least part of it is fact that she physically cannot stream and do her stuff.

>> No.28168062

It's obviously bullshit and she never gave a fuck, she just doesn't wanna renew her contract

>> No.28168101

>>28167939
>Sana has a lot of excuses to cover
i c wut u did ther

>> No.28168116

I wonder if she thought the brown would be a buff

>> No.28168221

>>28167395
Just shut the fuck up and stuff this spoon up your ass already. https://youtu.be/FhlbZqFBpfI?t=474

>> No.28168293

>>28165706
That's not how morphine works.

>> No.28168351

>>28168221
Takos cant figure these out. Probably should convert to a streamable link and add subtitles. Perhaps edit in meme transitions like reggae horns and zoom ins as well

>> No.28168382

Maybe, MAYBE she knows how much of a disappointment she has been so now that there's no more expectations and responsibilities she's trying to leave on a good note?, like a last bit of fanservice for whatever poor fuck followed her.

>> No.28168584

>>28168221
Not watching. What did she say

>> No.28168638

>>28168221
Thanks for wasting your time for me. I'm not gonna watch it.

>> No.28168685
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>>28168584
>>28168638
kek

>> No.28168716

>guys it was back hort that caused her not to stream
>which is why she can stream every day now

What did graduation magically make back hort go away? God you retards are so desperate to make this not what it is: Sana is a lazy, ungrateful asshole. It was not back hort, she didn't fucking care. Stop making excuses for it.

>> No.28168766

>>28168584
>>28168638
Takos once again refuse to watch ina

>> No.28168792

>>28165561
Because she's graduating in a couple weeks?
Is it really that much of a cosmic coincidence to you?

>> No.28168797

>>28168766
>Still no transcript

>> No.28168805

>>28168716
or maybe she's taking a break from her roommate work to spend it all on hololive for her final weeks

>> No.28168828

>>28168766
>calling someone tako

A bit harsh don't you think?, I understand that you are mad that you got outskilled but no need to be so rude.

>> No.28168838

>>28168716
health issues don't make it so you can't literally do nothing retard, you just have to be more selective of what you can do

>> No.28168891

>>28168838
Why are you coping so hard?
You're making up excuses for everything.
Occam's Razor.
She is lazy.

>> No.28168935

>>28168891
it's not a cope, it's just pointing out how retarded your logic is

>> No.28168964

>>28168838
Thats the point anon, she was selective with her time and actively chose not to give a fuck about any hololive work for nearly a year straight.

>> No.28169006

>>28168935
My previous last post about this was >>28167287
I've not been in a discussion about this.

>> No.28169022

If it was back hort then why didn't Sana/Cover just fucking say so? "my back injury made it unable for me to continue"
Perffectly valid reason and sure seems like it would have prevented a lot of rrats and implications that Cover axed her.

But no, I'm sure their thought process was "yeah it's the back but let's make up some vague bullshit instead"

>> No.28169050

>>28168838
>>28168838
>health issues don't make it so you can't do literally anything
>which is why for the vast majority of of her career she didn't do anything
>it was the back hort that is now suddenly gone because muh time division

I think you're really overthinking it.

>> No.28169254

Good fucking riddance. This proves WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that there is no dead dog or hort back.

The fucking whore just didn't want to stream. And now she can't graduate fast enough. Get this eyesore out of here and hire actual streamers for Gen 3.

>> No.28169257

>>28168638
>>28168797
>>28168584
Thank you for your conscessions, shitposters. The people worth something are better informed now, at least.

>> No.28169291

>>28168964
So what's the shocker here? I guess all this proves is that streaming isn't easy and not suitable for anyone who actually has remotely significant responsibilities.

>> No.28169318

>>28165561
Cover might as well be the ones spreading rrats directly. Their constant inability to be honest about anything leads to people making stuff up

>> No.28169336 [DELETED] 

>>28169257
All me btw. Thank me later

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>>28169257
All me btw. Thank me later

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>>28168584
>>28168638

>> No.28169421

>Rushia was hard fired over breaking NDA
>NooooOOooOo she never broke NDA she only defend herself by leaking information.

>Sana was soft fired over not fulfilling the contract she signed
>NooooOOoOo Sanas back hurts she just graduates because of it

I really wonder how many people here never had a Job in their live. Any company would fire Sana for not doing her job. They simply came to a mutual understanding and therefore grant her a graduation.

>> No.28169445

>>28166224
>be gacha artist
>your childhood friend that is also a gacha artist becomes a chuuba and is generally a massive success
>hey that looks like fun, and seems like an easy income stream other than art
>your friend gets you in
>you get assigned a model you don't really like and some weird space giantess lore
>try to make the most out of it, but people don't seem to be thata much into it
>confirmed by bad numbers
>dog dies, take a break
>numbers worsen
>being a chuuba isn't as fun or as profitable as you imagined and you'd rather focus on your art at this point
>leave

>> No.28169513

>>28169395
I made this post.

>> No.28169572

>>28165561
It's called Terminal Lucidity.

>> No.28169629

>>28169445
I heard she got the choice of model earlier than other council members

>> No.28169686

>>28165561
back hort sounds like straight-up lies.

I'm no sanalite but does he ever say something about being bedridden because of her back?

>> No.28169727

>>28169445
>try to make the most out of it, but people don't seem to be thata much into it

That's some brutal revisionism you got there, she never tried for shit

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28169736

> Omega is dead
> Sana is graduating
> Ina's nepotism team has fallen apart right in front of her
> Takos have realized Ina is a two faced snake and hates fun
Bet y'all niggas feel real dumb for buying her that ad space in times square last year

>> No.28169747

>>28167112
takos dont know how timestamps work youre asking for the impossible here

>> No.28169778

>>28169727
I think she did at the start, but ogey.

>> No.28169868

>>28169778
Kiara is someone that you look and think, "Oh yes, she is trying her best", Sana is just a shitty lazy quitter.

>> No.28170218

>>28169421
If they were gonna soft fire Sana for not doing her job why wouldn't they do it months ago?
Why wait until it's around contract renewal?
Why do it when there's rumors of EN3 debut?
Why do it when it is near the council one year anniversary?

>> No.28170266

>>28169421
Sure, but it's pretty fucking clear she is complicit in it. Even if they gave her an ultimatum to change her mind and everyone in her branch encouraged her to reconsider, she chose out. So it's not really getting fired and I've been in her situation where you're given an ultimatum. They are not remotely the same. If you want your job, you can keep it in Sana's case. Rushia had no choice to change her mind.

>> No.28170360

>>28165900
>no weight on her shoulders
>backpain gone
was it all related in the end?

>> No.28170437

>>28170218
>If they were gonna soft fire Sana for not doing her job why wouldn't they do it months ago?
Probably trying to save some face?, no matter how you look, the sooner it happened the worst it would look for Cover
>Why wait until it's around contract renewal?
See above
>Why do it when there's rumors of EN3 debut?
uh?
>Why do it when it is near the council one year anniversary?
To celebrate it by doing what everyone has been asking for this long, terminate project Hope and put irys on the council

>> No.28170442

>>28170218
NTA but I think cover wanted her to stick around for the holofes since they already produced her merch and stuff. If they fired her months ago they can't capitalized her merch and the rest of her gens much.

>> No.28170495

>>28166212
it also died yesterday

>> No.28170666

/vt/ acts like they've never gotten a job and realized it wasn't for them before. She hated her job and quit appropriately (unlike Ayame), and now she's closing out her two weeks with effort. Based pro Sana.

>> No.28170715

I don't get why everyone acts like she won't stream anymore.
She made it clear in her announcement when she said that on 31'st is the last stream "on this channel"
She obviously wants to stream more as an indie.

>> No.28170802

>>28170715
She'll stream once a month and former sanalites will be ecstatic about it.

>> No.28170900

The EN Ayame?

>> No.28170960

>>28170666
maybe the retard should have tried vtubing before stealing a place from a likely more competent chuuba that would have put in the effort of their life
this slot is now closed forever since anything cover would do with it will be considered in poor taste since they would essentailly replace her

>> No.28170987

>>28170715
She already has channels for it, but they were mostly used for promotional events so far.

>> No.28171012

>>28170218
The better question is if they fire people for not streaming then why haven't they ever applied this to absolutely anyone else? Ayame does like three streams every other month and they've yet to fire her. Cover doesn't give a shit because even if a girl isn't streaming it's not actually costing them anything and it's not like if they fire someone they can just replace them with someone else. if they fire someone that's a revenue stream that's just flat out dead while even a girl t hat streams rarely still brings in something.

>> No.28171039

>>28170960
Nobody had their slot stolen, she was the "friend invite" slot for the gen.

>> No.28171081

>>28169736
I can't believe Ina was supposed to be the foundation that HoloEN was built upon.

Instead she's like some weird add-on while Ame has been filling in the foundation as best she can as she goes along.

>> No.28171094

>>28171039
if calli would have invited connor for the slot it would still have been a better result

>> No.28171098

>>28170960
>stealing
fuckin lol
Not everything works out perfectly, sometimes jobs don't work out. She didn't end up liking it, big whoop, so she dipped out as soon as her contract is up. You can whine for the lost 2view who could have been all you want, but she did this correctly and nobody's at fault.. Half the sana antis going wild this week act like they want her to stream against her will even though they hate her

>> No.28171159

>>28170666
>/vt/ acts like they've never gotten a job
Well, yeah. A lot of the posters here are unemployed college and high school students or NEETS in their late twenties to early thirties. Or work from home goblins.

>> No.28171197

>>28166056
What is it with Takos not watching their oshi stream?

>> No.28171206

>>28165561
i'm gonna miss her model so much.
Cinnamon skin and blonde/white hair is a combination that doesn't get the attention it deserves.

>> No.28171266

>>28170960
Chuuba here: please don’t weep for me. Nobody who is serious about getting a role at Hololive looks at Sana this way.

>> No.28171298

>>28171197
they like the idea of ina but not the actual ina
watching ina could shatter their illusion
thus they dont watch her

>> No.28171362

>>28167758
Or they knew it wasn't actually a real reason all along and entertained it but eventually called BS.

My theory is she did injure it at some point, but it got better and she exaggerrated it as an excuse - just like the dog. People just buy the bad back story because that's actually a real thing that could actually-cause issues, if there was a premeditated health issue that would make people back off it's that because a lot of back shit is incurable even with surgery and basically you need to be on painkillers for life just to cope.

As was said however, streaming is actually one of the few things you can do even if you're totally crippled by a bad back. Ironmouse is living proof of it. You can just get a monitor brace thing to hold it over your bed and stream lying down if necessary. Sana just didn't wanna put in effort to continue.

I would also think however if the back thing is real this is why Cover apparently didn't try too hard to convince her to stay and just let her go, if she couldn't even use her 3D when it was ready. Even then there would have been ways though, like just fucking get someone else to dance using her model. She didn't try, and neither did Cover at keeping her.

>> No.28171411

>>28165561
so has she said specifically whats wrong with her back or is this just something that magically got brought up as "my back hurts A LOT gents ayup marmite" when she was graduating with no further elaboration?

>> No.28171602

>>28171411
We won't know for sure until her roommate talks about it at some point, which she probably won't due to the vastly different purpose and format of any streams she might be doing in the future.

>> No.28171614

>>28171411
The back thing happened like half of year ago.

>> No.28171684

>>28171362
>Ironmouse is living proof of it.
fucking retards still buying this shit.

>> No.28171717

>>28165561
shes dying

>> No.28171832

>>28171602
>which she probably won't due to the vastly different purpose and format of any streams she might be doing in the future
that's a cope

>> No.28171877

>>28171362
>Ironmouse is living proof of it.
Anon... Ironmouse is not bedridden or anything. She can move freely. She just needs to be careful because her immune system is shit.

>> No.28171899

>>28171602
>>28171832
It'll be interesting to see if she just refuses to talk about anything even remotely tied to Sana like the back or dog, like if she pushes away ex-Sanallites or not. If she's hostile to them that'd suggest a lot more BS afoot than if she explained things as best allowed to later.

>> No.28172215

>>28171877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42eJcyQR2U
NOBODY
ON
THIS
FUCKING
BOARD
WATCHES
STREAMS

>> No.28172290

>>28172215
Poor anon...you fool...how did it take you this long to find out?

>> No.28172315

>>28165561
Some poor sanallite monkey pawed Sana to be more active.

>> No.28172425

>>28171411
She's an artist by trade, she probably has terrible fucking posture and doesn't do anything to relieve it. She wouldn't be the first career artist to transform into a prawn, I've known plenty.

>> No.28172548

>>28171206
>Cinnamon skin
>Cinnamon personality
I still fucking hate /vt/ for calling it a debuff, but westerners are huge racists.

>> No.28172719

>>28165561
back not hort anymore

>> No.28172756

>>28165561
Sana was lying about the "back problems". Maybe she wasn't lying about the dog but still, she had the lowest streaming time comparing to her other colleagues. She just didn't give a shit. When Cover told her she needed to stream more often, she decided to quit.

At least Coco quit because of her artistic limitation while she was in hololive. In all honesty, Haachama should have graduated with her. Another key difference is that Coco's graduation was epic, and Coco left with her legacy forever sealed, while Sana is going to leave, and absolutely nobody is gonna remember her after a week.

>> No.28172763

>>28172548
She could have bounced back like Flare
Blame the dog

>> No.28172794

>>28172548
cope

>> No.28172851 [DELETED] 

>>28171362
>buying the mouse's shit when she nuked proof of her being a mom

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>>28172548
How was it a debuff in the slightest?

>> No.28173751

>>28173008
One anon from way back posted a Sana recolor that mogged her design and proved that brown could be done well...it just wasn't in this case. Artists do be like that.

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>Anons think Cover would "fire" Sana for not streaming when they have
>Ayame who took 1 month off because she was moving
>took 3 months off after that because her throat blew up
>Is currently letting her take one month off again for visiting her parents
It's so bad that Rushia has been fired for over 4 months now and she STILL has DOUBLE the amount of hours that Ayame has streamed for the entire year. Cover doesn't fucking care if you don't stream. It's obvious that Sana was the one who felt like she couldn't go on. Whether that's due to the fact that she can't really keep up with Hololive activities due to her back pains or if it's just hard to juggle her real job with her Holo job is irrelevant. Cover just straight up doesn't fire people unless you do what Kaoru, Rushia and Chris did, which is breaking NDA.

>> No.28173943

>>28173808
Pretty much yeah when Gura said "as long as she's happy" about it the other day it sounded very much like she just wanted out on her end, same with Kiara's tweet.

>> No.28174092

>>28166377
You can't be a full-time artist with debilitating back problems so bad that you are unable to even sit at a computer. You're a fucking retard.

>> No.28174224

i mean, why doesnt she get a standing desk?

>> No.28174368

>>28171602
It's not in her best interest to go into her injury and potentially put any future employer off from hiring her.

>> No.28174407

>>28166224
To steal the chance of someone that would actually want to work.

>> No.28174609

>>28165561
Based Sana milking the last of that sweet simp money lmao

>> No.28174683

can she eventually rejoin hololive in the future?

>> No.28174736
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>>28173751
>>28172548
remove weird hair accessories and change moe eyes, done

>> No.28174933

>>28174683
Who knows. Unless they say she can when she graduates I'm not going to huff the copium.

>> No.28175055

Is it possible that she ends up streaming more in this last 14 days than she did the entire rest of her time with hololive? That would be kind of wild

>> No.28175132

this board is full of underage retards who've never done held a serious job in their life
go finish high school you pathetic drama niggers

>> No.28175176

>>28175132
sana doesnt post here anon

>> No.28175266

>>28175176
and neither should 3/4s of the southeast asian catalog retards and any nigger who baits for twitter accounts
whats your point?
is calling a subhuman a subhuman illegal?

>> No.28176629

>>28175055
Literally impossible as she has nearly 10 streams that are 10-11 hours long.

>> No.28176632

>>28175132
>>28175266
>t. underage poster
Learn to speak English first if you want to trash talk.

>> No.28176711

>>28176632
damn dude really sick comeback based on nothing, you feel called out or something?

>> No.28176959

>>28171614
Spinal injuries are usually permanent so it depends on how bad this back injury was.

>> No.28177066

>>28176632
Son, you replied to two posts that were in completely intelligible, colloquial English.
Shouldn’t you go outside or something? At least open a window; your mother and I worry about you.

>> No.28177153

>>28171012
STOP with the Ayame deflection. It's been explained over and over. Ayame put the time and effort into to earn what she has. When she's not streaming we know she's working at the office and other things to earn her keep. When she does stream she has a loyal fanbase she put effort into building that dumps money on her.
Sana did nothing to earn even a fraction of what Ayame has.

>> No.28177176

>>28171012
Perhaps there's a market meta to consider. You can only corner a market a finite amount before it approaches saturation and oversaturation. If you saturate the market with low quality products, then you're advancing/hastening saturation with low ROI - not wise.

Just theory and even I am not quite sure it applies well here.

>> No.28177302

>>28171098
>Half the sana antis going wild this week act like they want her to stream against her will even though they hate her.
I don't want her to steam. I want her to go away.
>barely works 1 day a week
>works for less than a year
>chooses to leave
>gets huge celeberation thrown for her despite doing nothing to earn it.
>had to drop her grad info right when all of EN returned and subdued all of them out of guilt.
>other holos have to speak up abuot how sad someone they never or barely interacted with is leaving
fucking bitch needs to just silently drop off the radar and go away.

>> No.28177382

>>28172548
Flare seems to have managed just fine and the Japs are way more racist to blacks

>> No.28177634

>>28177153
>When she's not streaming we know she's working at the office and other things to earn her keep.
hahahahaha

>> No.28177785

>>28177302
>>had to drop her grad info right when all of EN returned and subdued all of them out of guilt.

they all knew months ago, unironically off yourself you pity party

>> No.28178039

>>28168584
>>28168638
Kek & based

>> No.28178281

worst oshi in existence
cant even fantasize about fucking her now since she'll break in half apparently

>> No.28178326

>>28170218
Contract renewal makes the most sense, also Sana and Cover probably agreed to this months ago.

>> No.28178537

>>28171197
Shes so boring they fall asleep when they try too

>> No.28178648

>>28171362
Cover always gives out press-releases when one of the chuubas has to take time-off due to some serious health concerns. There was no official announcement, Sana actually convinced other members not to talk about it. It was all really bizarre. My rrat is still that she was in a crunch period for her art job and didn't want to stream.

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>>28168584
>>28168638

>> No.28178712

>>28166755
>Nah bro do your reps and watch every single stream any holomem puts out.

There's not wanting to forcefeed people and then theres blatant lying with the guise of them pretending it happened

>> No.28178757

I'm gonna report any POGs I see in Nazunas chat for violations of federal law

>> No.28178856

>>28170960
>stolen
Even if Ina had recommended her, you think Cover wouldn't vet her to see if she had the skills to stream? I believe in them enough that they wouldn't let somebody totally unqualified in.

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>>28170802
>She'll stream once a month and former sanalites will be ecstatic about it.
You know it

>> No.28178906

>>28165795
Depends on the intensity of pain. There are conditions where you have to be either brain-damaged or drugged to be able to move at all. (Obviously that's not the case with Sana, but the point is that pain can be a bigger deal than you give it credit for.)

>> No.28178962

We can definitely rule out back issues since she not only has been streaming a lot but she's also collabing for more than an hour. What a BS excuse from her.

>> No.28179037

>>28172548
>westerners are huge racists
lol, ever been to Asia? They make racism in the west look like a picnic party.

>> No.28179130

>>28178900
>acting smug after crying
lol

>> No.28179155

>>28178856
>you think Cover wouldn't vet her to see if she had the skills to stream?
Yes, it seemed that EN had absolute independence or at least a different set of standards compared to JP. It also seemed like Omega or whichever manager was entrusted with this task without question, so long as the minimum hard requirements are met.

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>Sana's second highest viewed video is her graduation announcement while being only 2 days old
Looks like everyone just wants her gone

>> No.28179507

>>28177153
She's literally a prostitute.

>> No.28179559

>>28167863
She both streams on alt accounts and does art, two things which require sitting down in front of a desk.
Odd that only when streaming as Sana her back suddenly became an issue no?

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>>28179507
Back up your claim.

>> No.28179625

>>28179573
I bought her services before.
I wasn't impressed.

>> No.28180057

>>28179625
was it you that ruined her back????

>> No.28180325

>>28180057
Ayame will never walk again

>> No.28180436

>>28177153
People seem to forget that Ayame early on was the kind that did 2/3 streams per day like it was nothing (All of gen 2 really, Shion and especially Aqua). Sana barely streamed outside of the first few weeks and didn't even care to build a proper fanbase....

>> No.28181863

>>28165561
She realized she can make easy money streaming in hololive for low effort too late.

>> No.28182274

>>28165561
Her dog resurrected.

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>>28178648
>Cover always gives out press-releases when one of the chuubas has to take time-off due to some serious health concerns
This was just disproven by the way.

>> No.28182641

>>28166377
Not sure how you got that. The only thing we know is she's got a back problem. Unless she confesses to turning int Quasimodo and is only able to ring the Hololive streaming bell once a month, she could've still kept going even with a few streams a week.

>> No.28182664

>>28165561
Knowing she has limited time to do so can be a massive motivator to muscle through the pain

>> No.28182878

What I really want is the documents for the finalists of who was going to be Sana and what we missed because this cunt decided to bow out because "back horty" and 'I'm sade"so I can hate her more.

>> No.28183026

>>28174736
wtf, I love Sana now?

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>>28182878
veibae was the runner up and hololive had a plan to make her a virgin again too

>> No.28183858

>>28172315
kek

>> No.28184006

>>28173808
Waitwaitwait Kaoru broke NDA??
First I've heard that. Everyone's always saying they don't fuckin' know the reason he got canned.

>> No.28184083

>>28175055
It's been a year anon as much as /vt/ memes about her low output she streamed more than 14 fucking times.

>> No.28184128

>>28184006
You didn't know? He got Miko pregnant.

>> No.28184162

>>28178281
fantasize her an adamantium spine.

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>>28184128

>> No.28184603

>>28183053
>virgin vei
would probably be actually interesting to watch
like a fauna that would be vulgar/loud and agressive or a finana that is acually good at streaming
you know drastic personality shifts

>> No.28184733

>>28173808
That's because all the early gen girls have golden contracts. A carry over of when it was a small company.

>> No.28184734

>>28168584
The basedest man of the week

>> No.28184894

she was mid af. who tf care about metroid and kirby?? lmao

>> No.28185391

>>28170266
Yeah, that wasn't my point. Just saying that /here/ talk like they never had a job in their life.
Yes, Sana might had a choice to continue. The choice might also been that she could either graduate or get terminated.
Not unusual that companies offer a peaceful way out in order to not stain someone's career.

>> No.28185428

>>28179505
I do tbqh

>> No.28185485

>>28177302
lmao she's doing exactly what you ask and you're still schizo posting

>> No.28185730

>>28170218
Companies often do a yearly review with their employees, so I assume after the end of the fiscal year (march) they did that.
And since there is a notice period of a few months, she is graduating now.
Possibly similar to Coco and Kaoru, since all of them graduated in July.

>> No.28185886

>>28165795
Bearing pain and laughed and talked like usual, showing no sign of back pain for hours. Back pain also stopped her from doing Twitter Space, yea.

People who pretend sleeping will not wake up.

>> No.28188118

>>28171362
Well they also had a generationless EN just floating around they could easily slap into Council and everyone will say "Ah yeah that makes sense!"

>> No.28188341

I love nepotism. Especially when the person literally doesn't even care or appreciate the gibs dropped in their lap.

>> No.28188892

I wonder if Sanalites have figured out that she is ostensibly quitting on them?

>> No.28190159

maybe she got fat and doesn't want to meet anyone. that was probably part of the renewed contract, dancing and traveling.

>> No.28190204

>>28190159
Didn't stop Mori.

>> No.28190867

>>28177153
Late, but the only thing Ayame ever did to earn her position is being born Japanese.

>> No.28193645

togashi stole sana's back energy

>> No.28194298

>>28171362
>baseless shit and misinfo
It's okay idiot, you're not alone. This goes for a lot of the other morons bleating "lazy" ITT - I really doubt Sana would've reached any success with her art if she was so quick to make excuses like this.
To me it seems pretty simple - the thing with her dog and her back set her behind in Hololive and in turn started eating at the time she needs to maintain her illustration career. In the end she picked art over streaming. The end.

>> No.28194359

>>28171899
Or maybe she'd want to avoid any topics that get her into NDA violation territory???

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>>28165561
She wasn't "fired" but her contract wasn't renewed.
It's real obvious that she was gently forced to graduate.

>> No.28195504

People focus on calling brown a debuff because it is the most visible and distinct thing about her when in reality she'd got a million other debuffs that are way worse than being brown.
Irys is doing excellently despite being brown and fucked up model.
Why is it so hard to understand that the problem was the person itself?

>> No.28195781

>>28165561
Hallelujah its a miracle!

>> No.28195984

>>28165561
The stipulation to leaving was stream daily for the rest of the month. Otherwise she'll be shot dead.

>> No.28196039

>>28194487
yeah, all you have to do is ignore everything cover said here while they said the exact opposite for rushia. dumbass

>> No.28196046

>>28166056
>>28166755
this is not a tako
just a falseflagging clipnigger using Ina to shitpost

>> No.28196123

>>28166515
Hi Coco

>> No.28196184

>>28194487
I just wanna say I really like this art and koron

>> No.28196235

>>28168116
It was forced on her by omegatroon and she hates niggers. Half of the reason she is graduating.

>> No.28196281

>>28166839
Playing Genshin and Arknights is soooooo fun

>> No.28196962

i think overwork is something not to be proud or to talk about here so thats why i’ve disappeared lol…entirely its my fault for not being good enough so complaining about it is pointless. it also made me even more realise how incredible a lot of artists are. i’ll rather watch my health than have a life so the only fun thing i do is mobage a little while i eat lol.. i’m drawing what i’ve dreamed of so no regrets quitting graphic design for this but…in four months i only went outside to walk the dog or send papers, i saw a movie once. i wont give up tho!!! i want to be good enough so that drawing doesnt take up everything i do, if i discipline myself i’m sure i’ll get there eventually…!!!

>> No.28198531

>>28165561
I havent watched her streams anymore since the news because I dont wanna get sad but apparently she is leaving due to back problems, and I dont get how that would stop her from streaming.
Unless its so fucking bad that she needs to stay laying down.

>> No.28199901

>>28166159
Wait, was Sana in America too? No? Damn, pretty low class to gossip about your coworkers.

>> No.28200333

The only holo to flush out because she literally couldn't hack it at the easiest fucking job in the entire world.
Better save those supa shekles, times are gonna get mighty dry.

>> No.28200684

Turns out she got out because of HomoEN. Based Sana.

>> No.28201541

There is no way that Sana decided to graduate on July 31st which is just a few weeks before her 1 year anniversary. Cover simply didn't renew her contract. That is why she is having to rush out and do a ton of collab streams. The other talents have to repeat the official Cover story but the graduation date is too convenient.

>> No.28202286

>>28201541
It's not "cover didn't decide to renew her contract", it's "sana decided not to renew her contract with cover". Cover might have tried to pressure her to stream more but they invested a lot of resources and money into her model and gain nothing from forcing her to graduate. Also the phrasing Ina, as well as the PR statement use is "Sana requested to graduate" even though the rest of EN tried to negotiate with her to stay.

>> No.28202854

>>28201541
Maybe she didn't want to deal with the hassle of preparing for a whole anniversary stream and wanted to leave early.

>> No.28203993

>>28169445
Basically this. The biggest difference between Sana and Ina is that Sana was never willing to set aside her art in favor of streaming, nor willing to lean on her art as a streamer. I think Sana ran into too many early roadblocks and fell way behind and she's not inclining due to her unwillingness to refocus herself from her art and she knows it so she's just throwing in the towel as a streamer.

>> No.28204344

>>28169445
>as profitable as you imagined
it's more profitable, and with a more steady income, compared to being a freelance artist

>> No.28204396 [DELETED] 

WHY DID SHE EVEN JOIN IN THE FIRST PLACE? HER BACK FEELS GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER TO STREAM EVERYDAY NOW

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>streaming everyday

wrong, in fact she's not even streaming that much more than usual, in the last three months she streamed at least once a week + space + call-in's, but again, I don't expect catalogue niggers to know this

>> No.28206421

>>28205501
>sanalite using kronii to spread lies

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>>28165561
Being a HoloEN streamer is fucking garbage. Management treats them like fucking robots. She's simply tired of this crap. Will be utterly fucking hilarious if she joins some other group in few months.

>> No.28206713

>>28204396
Because she expected a fun job not this shit.

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>>28172548
It really wasn't a debuff. For fucks sake, we have Flare. There's people who are into tan skin.
Parts of Sana's design looks retarded, like her twin-tails and the stupid planets as well as the swirl at the top. Yatagarasu looks retarded, too. As it stands, her current design just never worked and made zero sense as something space-related. Add the fact that she hardly streamed, she was doomed to fail from the start.

>> No.28209916

>>28166748
I live with someone with a chronic, arthritic back injury. Some days are worse than others. She can forget she is even injured at all some days, and other days have her completely bedridden.

That said, I doubt the back injury is the reason, at most it's just a factor. We know her roommate is heavily involved in the artwork for a popular mobile gacha and I don't find it hard to believe that contract is both more lucrative than being the poorest performing Holo, and more interesting to her personally, and trying to maintain that and other artwork contracts in addition to her responsibilities to Hololive may simply be too much and something has to go.

>> No.28210561

>>28206625
>Management treats them like fucking robots
I very much doubt Sana spent enough time time to experience being tired of this

>> No.28211842

>>28196039
Rushia was throwing a public meltdown and posting private discord screenshots. A public termination was justified.
Sana just didn't stream enough.

>> No.28212097

I think the reality of the situation has finally hit her. The idiot squandered away a ridiculously easy and flexible job that pays bananas. Gotta milk it as much as she can before they take the tap away.

>> No.28212213

>>28185391
>Yes, Sana might had a choice to continue. The choice might also been that she could either graduate or get terminated.
That's the choice you get when it's been determined that you cannot meet your contractual obligations. Failing to meet your obligations is either a conscious decision you made or because you are incompetent. Everyone who has watched Sana stream knows she is a fine streamer, but her issue was always just that she didn't stream often enough, often going weeks between streams.

>> No.28212250

Unless she actually find an even better job somehow, then fuck man I guess you go girl.

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Kobo teach sundanese to sana
https://youtu.be/2q5TAPyZmyY

dont forget to prepare IOFI birthday party

>> No.28212984

>>28167375
This. She's the worst hire in Cover history. It was clear as day that she wanted to get the fuck out a couple of months after debut. And I'm not blaming her, I've been in similar situations in past jobs.

>> No.28213129

>>28212984
The worst hire is Coco

>> No.28213247

>>28177302
Please learn to enjoy life

>> No.28214011

>>28212250
She makes more drawing for gachas than she does in Hololive.

>> No.28215224

>>28165561
>Bailed before HoloTempest.
Bold move

>> No.28215698

>>28212984
>She's the worst hire in Cover history
This. Even Aloe and Chris had more potential than Sana.

>> No.28215971

>>28165561
ITT Sanalites pretend to not understand resignation is just a way to save face from being fired.

>> No.28216296

>>28204344
not even 1/3rd as profitable as what shit like FGO artists make lmfao, and thats for chuubas with millions of subs like ina, not the literal runt of EN vtubing like sana.

>> No.28216613

SayoSANAra bitch. The fact 2views with no support can stream consistently so there's no excuse. "Oh no, my back!" Bitch, shut up. Jerma streams with a fucked back and he actually DOES stuff and he's like forty. You just sit around and go uguu for weebs.

>> No.28217779

>>28216613
Kek. On global there was an amazing FBK soundpost saying nigga bye during her graduation announcement

>> No.28220046

>>28169445
Sana is pretty much the only EN member that had 0 experience with livestreaming or anything community related outside her twitter bubble. Ina comes second ( which isn't that big of a surprise ) but even she had at least some twitch livestreams going on in the past.
Hopefully Cover learns from their mistakes and only accepts auditions from people who know what they sign up for.

>> No.28220242

>>28206421
oh? enlightened me

>> No.28220264

>>28220242
ur a faget

>> No.28220356

>>28170495
[Sad News]

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>makes more money doing something else and is less stressful
I'd quit too

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>>28220264

>> No.28220932

>>28172548
Blame sana never wanting to stream on her hololive account but having plenty of time to stream on her IRL for chinese sponsors while claiming to have a bad back

>> No.28221444

>>28220573
This, sana actually has talent and would rather just draw shit for a living, all the retarded sanallites who honestly thought she enjoyed streaming need to just stop watching vtubers in general

>> No.28221598

>>28216296
No way, freelancing is not that lucrative, even if you work on gacha. A single stream can make as much money as you'd get from a dozen illustrations. Most freelance artists either come from rich families or countries with a low cost of living (hence why so many freelance artists like hews, rosuuri, so on, come from the phillipines).

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>>28221598
Depends if you get contracts for big franchises and names. Fenyo_N is a big freelance artist that got a contract with whoever the fuck owns Dragon Ball and Bandai Namco to draw art. All he does now is invest and draw dragon ball. If Sana is getting Fate/Stay contracts or Genshit, who is known to pay buckets of cash. She can make insane money

>> No.28222329

Glad she's leaving, never cared about her, the "beeg jokes" were cringe and annoying and she didn't care enough about the position that someone else deserved. Good riddance

>> No.28224452

>>28165561
Vtubing was always a side hobby for her since Day 1. Chink gacha art is her bread and butter.

>> No.28225374

>>28221981
Ja gacha companies only pay ~200-800 usd per illustration max, including fgo, for contactors. Chinese companies pay better but its still chump change compared to hololive income, certainly not "insane money", especially when you consider how long it can take for a finalised image with multiple revisions to draw.

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