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28099722 No.28099722 [Reply] [Original]

>Talent "freedom"

>> No.28099775

It's unironically okay when a HoloJP does it.

>> No.28099808

>>28099775
No it's not. I hate Americans so much it's unreal

>> No.28099832
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"Talent freedom"

>> No.28099839

>>28099722

Another Kekson deflection thread?
>Kekson Apologist groomed really well by Json.

>> No.28099861 [DELETED] 

when did they push "creative freedom" bs.

it always comes from amerimutt niggers

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>>28099775
based

>> No.28099889
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>talent freedom

>> No.28099892

>>28099722
>Kekson deflection thread?
Kekson deflection thread

>> No.28099909

>>28099722
>1 million VOD views VS a 13k ccv stream
But people told me Kson would destroy hololive by being the most loved vtuber ever

>> No.28099917

>>28099722
>>28099832
>>28099889
God I want holo summer back

>> No.28099926

>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28099938

>>28099722
Marine is well respected by everyone so its ok when she is lewd. I would have had no problem with Kson being lewd but
1) Model sucks ass
2) She will interact with Veibae and Nyanners

>> No.28099940

At what point is it admissable to report these threads as spam or "extremely low quality" (note to all the jannies (who are sexy), I did not report this post)

>> No.28099965

>>28099722
Looking good for someone her age

>> No.28099981

>>28099940
Jannies hate Holochads

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>>28099909
don't worry, s-she's gonna do it a-any day now!

>> No.28100000

>>28099889
My dick

>> No.28100023

>>28099938
kek

>> No.28100063

>>28099775
3 combinations:

A) classy + not horny = some indies
B) classless + horny = vshojo (the worst combo)
C) classy + horny = Hololive (the best combo)

To make it worse for B, Vshojo has no other talents except being horny.

>> No.28100072

>>28099722
Isn't it amazing when hololive fans pretend to be prudes?

>> No.28100128

>>28099722
*SNIIIIIIFFFF*

>> No.28100146

>>28100072
Only somone who doesn't watch Hololive says that nonsense. Marine's catchphase is "I'm hornyyyyy"

>> No.28100233

>>28099722
A.) It’s ok when JP does it

B.) “Talent freedom” means that no matter how bad the yab you do is, you still get to keep your model even if you get fired. Kson doing whatever the fuck she’s doing is unrelated to “talent freedom”, that’s just because she’s from Atlanta.

>> No.28100270

>>28099938
>Model sucks ass
It's literally miles ahead of the best Holo live2d

>> No.28100307

You'd think Hololive was a nun factory the way /#/ pulls out the fainting couch over seeing anything remotely sexual

>> No.28100320

>>28099861
When they wanted to get a JP branch.

>> No.28100357

>>28100233 (me)
I forgot I was /here/, so I should add that the first point is (mostly) a joke.
The second one is the main point. “Talent freedom” just means not worrying about having to change your persona no matter what. What vtubers do with that is their own choice.

>> No.28100400

>>28099889
GOD DAMN

>> No.28100429

>>28100320
its your vshit thing. holo jp never pushed your stupid zoomer bs like "creative freedom"

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>>28100357
>newfag detected
welcome FAGGOT!

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>>28099775
Yes

>> No.28100530

>>28100270
No, the tattoo kills it. It should not be bright green.

>> No.28100700

>>28099775
Of course it is. Because it's not the only thing they do. Marine, whose motto is literally "I'm horny" can hold a conversation without talking about being plunged or sucking dicks. She has a wide sense of humour. From being sarcastic about her age and relationships with the other members to the horny stuff. Same goes for literally everyone else. They don't pretend to be pure or try to hold a moral compass whilst being absolute whores.

But you know, talking every stream about being fucked or making dick jokes = being lewd sometimes or even a few streams.

>> No.28100716

>>28099992
Yagoo takes 50% of his income, but it's ok because Oga gets to mating press Iofi.

>> No.28100718

>>28100270
>It's literally miles ahead of the best Holo live2d
wasn't talking about the rigging but ok.
Also, there is a reason that despite the rigging, people prefer the Hololive models

>> No.28100811

>>28100716
I think you are confusing Susan with Yagoo, Hololive as a company takes 30% of the 50% Susan leaves.

>> No.28100846

>>28100716
Oga is for Fubuki

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>>28099992
get BTFO retard

>> No.28100952

>>28100811
Anon, your rep. Susan has never taken 50% cut.
Susan takes 30%.
Cover takes 50% of the remaining 70%..
Basically, it's 30% YT, 35% Cover, 35% talent. Some talents could negotiate for a better cut (i.e: Early 2021, Pekora negotiated for a 60-40 instead of 50-50 cut with Cover), but that's the default.

>> No.28101020

>>28100858
Dropping from #1 / 2 to #8, making a third of what she used to make, without any big merch sales is impressive now?

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>>28100846
Iofi is size queen

>> No.28101122

>>28099722
Kson le bad cuz she not Holo

>> No.28101153

>>28101020
She still makes more in a month than your entire household in a year (multiply by factor of 2 or 3 if you're from a shithole).

>> No.28101183

>>28099992
Oga-sama... I KNEEL

>> No.28101258

>>28101153
She also makes more than many doctors. Next time I get ill, I'll go masturbate to one of her stream.

>> No.28101427

>>28100429
Vshitshow, however pushed "talent freedom" when, as stated:
>"They wanted to get a JP branch."

>> No.28101607

>>28100270
If you're blind and also retarded, then I could see someone having that opinion in some alternate reality. Still won't be true though

>> No.28101611

>>28099722
It's funny how normalfags and cucks literally don't understand what the difference is between Hololive and those literally-who whores from elsewhere.

VTubers being lewd and sexual is not the issue. The issue is how it is done.

- None of the Hololive vtubers ever admitted to having sex.
- None of them refer to their own past or active sex lives.
- They try to maintain a facade of sexual availability rather than tell people about their current or past boyfriends.

A VTuber talking about being horny or wanting to have sex is okay, when it doesn't exclude the viewer - or even involves the viewer, giving him the impression that he could be the one to help her with that horniness, etc. - and most important is that Hololive VTubers don't do it all the time, but they do it in a very well dosaged manner, contrasting the seiso aim of the company with lewdness gap moe. And this doesn't just apply to Hololive, plenty of people in NijiJP also have understood this. Even those who deliberately produce crass or lewd content are especially cautious with regard to the fine line they're walking.

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28101663

>>28100952
Check again.

>> No.28101668

>>28100858
cope more keksonfag
she got mogged by a fucking holostar during a coomerbait outfit reveal

>> No.28101722

Friendly reminder that Marine can Draw and Sing, which are qualities Kson isn't capable of.

In other words, Hololive has people who are actually creative and talented, unlike Vshoujo.

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28101764

>>28101611

>> No.28101802
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>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28101870

>>28099775
FPBP

>> No.28102003

>>28100000
digits confirm

>> No.28102184

>>28099775
True and Holopilled

>> No.28102267

>>28101764
Is he wrong though? Can't you see the difference between talking about getting an eye infection from having cum in your eye vs talking about being horny and BL

>> No.28102468

wow discord trannies really banded up for this one
>w-we will show those hololive transphobes how hypocritical they are!

>> No.28102718

>>28101611
This guy sounds like a creepy Holofag but he's right. That's the main reason why Hololive is so popular. Also it's okay if they talk about their past or active sex lives if it's with other girls and there's no male involved(but let's be real, they probably made all the lesbian bullshit up)

>> No.28102808
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>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28102835

>>28099992
ooooogaaaaa!!!!! help her!!!!!!!

>> No.28102857

>>28102468
Little did they know, we don't give a shit.

>> No.28102886

>>28100716
Oga also didn't pay for that model, unlike Kson. She's probably in the red for that stream.

>> No.28102952

>>28099775
Fpbp

>> No.28102998

>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28103023

>>28100072
hololive fans pretend to be prudes?
Tell me you don't actually believe the "idol company" meme

>> No.28103248

>>28102718
A holofag would not talk about a 'facade' of sexual availability. I think all of the hololive vtubers are whores just like the other vtubers, they're just better at hiding it or they have a smart management behind them that keeps them on a tight leash, resulting an overall more appealing product that is naturally more popular to men.

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>>28101663
There was no mention of ads in this ITT thread, anon.

>> No.28103988

>>28101611
I don't care about "sexual availability" but boyfriend collabs are a good enough reason for me to steer clear of vshojo

>> No.28104030

>>28099722
i hope you realize that's a crease in the fabric and not a cameltoe

>> No.28104131

>>28101024
She can blow the dude without going on her knees. Neat.

>> No.28104835

>>28101611
This is ultimately it, gap moe is the attraction, if they're a outright whore all the time it's not interesting, if they're a cute girl that occasionally breaks out the horny, it's fine.

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>>28099775
Based and FPBP.
Don't let these cucktards make you think otherwise.

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>>28099775
no sane individual can refute this

>> No.28105055 [DELETED] 

>>28104938
>>28105002
now kiss

>> No.28105226

>>28104030
it can be both

>> No.28105524
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28105524

>>28099722

>> No.28108246
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>>28100000

>> No.28108305

What a whore. It's why I stopped watching Marine.

>> No.28108422

>>28100000
>00000
Well then

>> No.28108506

>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28108620

>>28099775
Glad all the replies to this basically confirmed they're all hypocrites. No dumb excuses to explain it away, just straight to the point.

>> No.28108802

>>28108620
Cope, seethe and mald.

>> No.28109178

Man, you just know some people got absolutely assblasted by the most and autistic reasons when they keep spamming the catalog with threads complaining about swimsuits and comparing them with talking about dicks and sex and acting like a 3DPD whore nonstop.
"rumao"

>> No.28109303

>>28109178
The tribalism on this board has gotten far worse than I ever remember it being. And the best part: it only gets worse from here.

>> No.28109366
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>>28099775
fpbp

>> No.28110689

>>28099992
SC isn't stable but damn got mogged by holostar on a fucking outfit stream, Kson..

>> No.28111561

>>28099775
FPBP. OP puts this inoffensive shit in the same category as talking about drinking period blood or whatever vshitshows do.

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28111933

neck yourself holofags

>> No.28111943

What exactly is the point of this thread? That you don't even need talent freedom to be a whore? Well, alright, looking forward to la creatividad, then, since apparently we haven't seen any of it yet.

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28112056

>>28099722
> Cum penis sex suck cock blowjobs cock sex sex cock cum cum penis
your average marine stream

>> No.28112536

>>28099992
holy fuck I thought this image of kson is photoshopped because this outfit looks so fucking garbage ahahaha what the fuck is this

>> No.28112616

>>28112056
t. EOP who can't understand Marine

>> No.28112676

>>28099992
I wonder if Kson realizes how badly she fucked up yet or is still deep in the "vtubing is a family! We should all work together" bullshit she tries to convince herself.

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>>28099775
Based.

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>>28111933
>>28112056

>> No.28112851

>>28099832
I would suck off futa Mio for hours.

>> No.28112866

>>28100700
>But you know, talking every stream about being fucked or making dick jokes = being lewd sometimes or even a few streams.
Vshojo clipwatcher

>> No.28113001

>>28099889
She told us she's a slut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrb0P4sDpw

>> No.28113048

>>28099722
BASED

>> No.28114796

>>28099722
This is unironically different, if you can't tell the difference between a sexy model and a straight up whore, you have no taste.

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which is it really

>> No.28114997

>>28114907
I don't see how posting
>talent freedom
at a holo makes any sense when there was never any claim of holo having that.

>> No.28115215

>>28099808
Seethe in your cuckshed while we rule the world, fag.

>> No.28115224

>>28111561
>Kson wears a swimsuit
>Anons are triggered
>Point out hololive does the same
>Change topic to drinking period blood
???????

>> No.28115282

>>28114796
So do you just avoid porn then?

>> No.28115311

>>28114796
Marine is a straight up whore tho if what i heard about he PL is true

>> No.28115329

>>28115224
>Anons are triggered
and these anons... are they in the room with us now?

>> No.28116243

>>28115329
Stop acting stupid and look at the catalog. Everyone is calling Kson a whore for her new outfit and meme'ing on creative freedom.

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>>28114907
Both are correct
>Left implying that Marine has freedom when she doesnt.
>Right is implying Kson has both talent and Freedom when she has neither

>> No.28116659

>>28101153
> said in a recent stream she makes 100k usd/month
Haha no.

>> No.28117333

>>28111858
Thanks for posting this picture! I keep putting more photos on my phone and can't find it anymore. Now I can post again like you!

>> No.28117470

>>28112056
>western whores
>body count below 100
pick one

>> No.28117556

>>28112866
If all the impression you could get from viral clips of them are only about that then he's still right lmao

>> No.28119939

>>28112056
i don't get it, doesn't japan get a reputation for their populace not having sex?

>> No.28119970

>>28114907
Holoniggers getting BTFO with their own narrative

>> No.28120105

>>28119939
>doesn't japan get a reputation for their populace not having sex?
You unironically fell for the "le wacky foreign exotic japan xD" memes.

>> No.28120982

>>28099722
I want to bully Marine sexually

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>>28099775
They just don't get us, king.

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>>28099722

>> No.28121240

>>28099775
/thread

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Kikeson deflection thread.

>> No.28121303

>>28119939
yeah, they're not having sex
ignore the redditor faggot >>28120105

>> No.28122905

It's actually funny people use Marine as an example of 'holos do it too' when she is unironically one of the most seiso holos and never, ever talks about men in a sexual manner

>> No.28123131

>>28116243
When people heard creative freedom, the idea wasn't to be sluttier and lewder but actually BE CREATIVE and do different shit. Kson hasn't done that at all. She does handcam streams, plays ARK, and chitchats like any Holomem can do. I suppose she just meant collab with whoever she wants.

>> No.28123752

>>28099992
keep sucking tanigo's dick you moron

>> No.28123817

>>28101258
>>28101427
Good luck you seething retard

>> No.28123914

>>28121251
Nobody is forcing you to watch her

>> No.28124553

>>28122905
Do you really think anyone making these threads watches any vtuber at all

>> No.28124889

>>28100000
>00000
Automatically based

>> No.28127803

>>28099775
Fpbp
/thread

>> No.28131063

>>28099722
>WAAAAAAAAAH HOLOLIVE DONT GIVE TALENTS ANY FREEDOM
>somehow it does now for this "argument"
You retards cant even make up your mind.

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>7th console war thread of the day about the same exact subject
zzz

>> No.28131411

>>28100700
>Marine, whose motto is literally "I'm horny" can hold a conversation without talking about being plunged or sucking dicks.
Because she can't even if she wanted to. What do you suppose would happen if she did, anon?

>> No.28132040

>>28101611
>- None of the Hololive vtubers ever admitted to having sex.
>- None of them refer to their own past or active sex lives.
>- They try to maintain a facade of sexual availability rather than tell people about their current or past boyfriends.
Because they'd either be murdered by a psychopathic fan or fired thanks to the outrage.

>> No.28132204

>>28101722
>In other words, Hololive has people who are actually creative and talented, unlike Vshoujo.
>Draw
Apricot
>Sing
Mouse and Nyanners
Also you've clearly never heard Zentreya doing hip hop:
https://youtu.be/PD-xvjKl4mI

>> No.28132287

>>28132040
and that's a good thing faggot.

>> No.28132512

>>28132204
So there is 4 Vshojo chuuba who can match with Marine?

>> No.28132711

>>28109303
This tribalism would be solved if we just split /vt/ in to /holo/ for all Hololive related discussion, and /vyt/ for everyone else. Then if holofags decided to raid /vyt/ threads or vice versa, it can be properly treated as a raid.

>> No.28132855

>>28100700
>Because it's not the only thing they do.
Try actually watching even just one VShojo stream you fucking idiot

>>28117556
Almost every viral vtuber clip is about sex, because the vtuber audience is terminally cooming

>> No.28132862

>>28132512
Entertainment comes in a lot of forms, anon. The previous faggot said "no talent" and he was wrong and retarded and now you're moving the goalposts. The point is that talent exists, they have talent, as do the Hololive girls, and in a variety of ways.

Tribalism is retarded.

>> No.28132946

>>28132711
>tribalism would be solved
Holy shit. Please tell me you don't believe that.

>> No.28133189

I want to hold Marine’s hands and look into her eyes irl. I want to hug Marine.

>> No.28133281

>>28132946
Well not really. I just want /holo/ already.

>> No.28134164

>>28132711
Fuck off faggot, don't try to lump niji with you fucks.

>> No.28134242

>>28132711
tribalism would be solved if we banned alphabet people from this board

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an entire thread of maximum dosage holocope, you love to see it

>> No.28134532
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Marine, it's time to come home.

>> No.28136540

>>28101024
Lmao she doesnt even try to hide

>> No.28137144

>>28099775
This. As long as they're forced to only cocktease at most or lose their jobs for even touching a man. Fuck right and wrong and liberty.

>> No.28137437

>>28099808
Yes, it is. Careers can get destroyed by whoring it up and good riddance.

>> No.28141490

>>28099722
Anon you have to unerstand holobronies are mentally ill look at how long it took them to accept that the holoCN girls were actually radical Communists

>> No.28142425

>>28099775
/thread

>> No.28143621

>>28115311
There is litteraly nothing
Retard

>> No.28143877

>>28109303
It's just rampant shitposting from trolls. It's not even remotely subtle

>> No.28143926

>>28100270
The model makes me think of a korean coomer game.

>> No.28144016

>>28099722
It's funny that everyone uses Marine as the "freedom" punching bag, but nobody talks about Choco, the holo that straight up talks about dates and the men she'd actually fall in love for

>> No.28144059

>>28144016
Let me marry Choco!

>> No.28144081

>>28115311
>if what i heard about the PL is true
so just the voices in your head?

not to mention PL/RM ≠ Marine

>> No.28144091

>>28134532
Marine is interested in success, not being some washed up vtuber.

>> No.28144160

>>28112056
Found the EOP clipwatcher. You don't deserve Marine

>> No.28144172

>>28144059
You better be a huge earner, handsome, tall, buff and smart, because Choco won't settle for less, hence why she's one of the few holos with a 99.999% chance to be single

>> No.28145292

>>28099775
fpbp

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Yes, showing off your design's thighs and bikini is literally the same as "when i got fucked during my period..." "cum tastes like..." "I got an eye infection from getting cum in my eye..." etc.
No one's calling Vei a whore because of her scantily clad design
>b-but marine said she likes oppai and wants doujins of her! they're the same!

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>>28101024
>standing blowjob
Goddamn it, what a lucky bastard.

>> No.28145986

>>28099775
This

>> No.28146006

>>28119939
Women are the same wherever you go, anon.

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>>28103331
>in this in this thread thread
You good, buddy?

>> No.28146417

>>28144016
And that's obviously because none of the people making these threads watch vtubers at all.

>> No.28148593

>>28145660
I want to nakadashi vtubwrs

>> No.28151499

>>28112056
>gay sex anal blowjobs shitstained penis cum on face anals cum cum penis
anons mind

>> No.28152237

>>28099775
fpbp

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Rent free

>> No.28159005

>>28099775
this but unironically

>> No.28159481

>>28155067
ayyy doog in the top 10
love to see it

>> No.28160524

>>28144172
I thought she lowered her standards too much, which is how she ended up dating a guy that stared at her tits and told her he wanted to breed her in the karaoke bar, and then dated a guy who took her to a pachinko parlor.

>> No.28160720

>>28144160
>>28144160
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but she pretends to be nervous when you push back on her horniness which means se's not *really* a whore!

>> No.28167376

>>28101024
kek

>> No.28169633

Marine does it in a tasteful way. Like a lewd anime girl, rather than a 3DPD slut. It fulfills a niche

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