"I had one more, but I can't play that on stream so you will just have to pretend like I did"

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"I had one more, but I can't play that on stream so you will just have to pretend like I did" Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:18:04 2022 No.28051741 [Reply] [Original]

It doesn't matter if it's HoloEN management being assholes or NijiEN management doing the exact same.

Both of them are fucking retards for blocking cross-company collabs but having no problem with vshojo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:19:12 2022 No.28051799 >>28051741 What's the context behind the quote?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:19:27 2022 No.28051816 This confirms that it's NijiEN management blocking it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:19:55 2022 No.28051851 >>28051799 Pomu birthday videos and one of them "she couldn't show". Which implies Kiara sent something in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:20:54 2022 No.28051895 >>28051816 But why? It couldn't be China as collabs were blocked long before EN becoming popular there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:22:18 2022 No.28051970 >>28051895 Noor is so bitter she never got to do stuff with holos, so everyone else has to suffer too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:22:33 2022 No.28051989 Remember Miori had to go indie to be able to collab with holoEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:23:41 2022 No.28052058 >>28051851 Does it? It could have been from anyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:24:19 2022 No.28052095 File: 150 KB, 320x320, 1655494962329.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28051741 REMINDER: >HoloJP/NijiJP - NO ISSUE AT ALL >HoloID/NijiID - NO ISSUE AT ALL >HoloEN/NijiEN - SORRY NO CAN DO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:24:44 2022 No.28052119 >>28052058 Yeah it was pekora actually source: peko

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:27:07 2022 No.28052247 >>28051741 >Both of them are fucking retards for blocking cross-company collabs Vox: I can't afford to see my cute chinese ladies frown even a little.

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:30:02 2022 No.28052415

>>28051741
>Both of them are fucking retards for blocking cross-company collabs but having no problem with vshojo.
If two companies are having same decision, the decision should be more legit than OP who doesn't own a company nor understanding the inner workings of both companies.

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:31:26 2022 No.28052504

>>28051895
We'll never truly know. Hololive EN management probably doesn't want to encourage competitors, since they are the biggest company in the west still. That or management won't approve anything that won't also benefit them business-wise, compared to their Vshojo relationship on Twitch. Who knows if the recent VsJP drama threw a wrench in that though.
Anykara's EN staff is probably butthurt and petty as hell though. It seems to be a case where both companies are at fault to varying degrees.

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:33:59 2022 No.28052687
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>>28052504
Well they both shouldn't have been collabing with vshojo to begin with, they're far worse than hololive or nijisanji.

Let's not forget what vshojo collabs did. Or when Rosemi abandoned a cooking stream to collab with them.

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:34:52 2022 No.28052748

>>28052504
>since they are the biggest company in the west still
are they though? nijimales often get higher numbers than the top holoENs, right? and with that army of streamers operating around the clock they probably see more unique viewers daily overall than holoEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:35:24 2022 No.28052781 >>28052687 pikamee being so uncomfortable around the vshojo whores will never not be funny

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:37:07 2022 No.28052886 >>28052748 >nijimales often get higher numbers than the top holoENs, right No

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:37:34 2022 No.28052916 >>28051851 >>28051741 >Which implies Kiara sent something in. Retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:38:33 2022 No.28052988 File: 317 KB, 1659x2462, u8g1btlvki071.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I WANT TO TONGUE FUCK POMU'S ASSHOLE I WANT TO TONGUE FUCK POMU'S ASSHOLE I WANT TO TONGUE FUCK POMU'S ASSHOLE I WANT TO TONGUE FUCK POMU'S ASSHOLE

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:39:28 2022 No.28053036

Imagine making a birthday video message just for a person privately, full well knowing she cant show it to her stream.
This is some Romeo and Juliet type of shit.

Anyway I'm pretty sure it's a mutual block by both companies. There's plenty of evidence on both sides that they block the other. Even the fact that they never appear in chat is proof because if one side was blocking it, the other could still do it and there'd by nothing the "blocker" could do about it. But clearly, neither side ever appears in chat so it's obvious neither side is allowed to do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:40:46 2022 No.28053127 >>28052886 I could swear I've seen vox and mysta get 40k+ a few times

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:48:56 2022 No.28053628 >>28053036 If she had shown in Cover would just DMCA it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:50:12 2022 No.28053693 >>28052095 I blame Omega

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 23:50:41 2022 No.28053723 When's she going indie? Niji "management" is a fucking joke.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:05:51 2022 No.28054570

>>28052687
The early Vshojo collabs for NijiEN were pretty terrible, but I bet Anykara still wanted it to help bring some more attention to the company.

>>28052748
If you ignore Gura, the NijiEN males are pretty close to most of HoloEN's females in terms of viewership. Sometimes they get more, sometimes they get far less. It also depends on timezones and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:17:45 2022 No.28055289 >>28054570 If you ignore Luxiem...

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:22:39 2022 No.28055577

>>28052095
>HoloID/NijiEN - SORRY NO CAN DO
You forgot Ollie/Selen.
The reality is NijiEN is making a ton of money from chinks and doesn't want to piss them off. Yes, the chinks should be more upset about vshojo than cover since kson works there now. But you forget how illogical bugmen are in the first place. They were still spamming Aki's chat during the live2D 3.0 reveal stream a few days ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:23:34 2022 No.28055635 >>28053628 Couldn't she just pull a "Famous cosplayer here, Pomu happy birthday!"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:23:35 2022 No.28055636 >>28055577 This has been going on since before NijiEN had any Chinese audience at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:25:13 2022 No.28055766 >>28055635 I was thinking this. Cake princess could have sent it she IS a famous cosplayer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:25:42 2022 No.28055800 >>28053036 >appear in chat Or the side not being blocked just doesn't want to get the side that is blocked in trouble. What with them being friends and all.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:27:02 2022 No.28055879
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>>28051741
>>28051799
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>>28054570
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>>28055577
>>28055635
>>28055636
>>28055800
Bros you told me the discord leak is just nothingburger,what Happened?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:27:52 2022 No.28055932 >>28055879 nothing happened, they couldn't collab before that either, even when it was just the girls they couldn't collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:28:18 2022 No.28055951 >>28055879 I didn't tell you shit don't (you) (me)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:28:23 2022 No.28055956 Do they trade nudes in PM's?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:28:30 2022 No.28055962 >>28055636 nijiEN always had a chinese audience, pre-luxiem clips on bilibili were quite popular in comparison to what nijiEN would get from YT clippers, having Selen, Petra, Enna being open about their race probably contributed alot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:29:19 2022 No.28056001 >>28055879 They were already blocked from doing collabs back then, that's why they had no qualms about posting that kind of stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:30:10 2022 No.28056059 >>28055766 Calli is always showing her soccer mom face everywhere, why couldn't Kiara do the same for this instance

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:30:10 2022 No.28056057 >>28055879 >still posting this >meanwhile literally no one cares and Kiara and Pomu still want to collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:33:33 2022 No.28056243 >>28056057 Where's the collab then?

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:34:43 2022 No.28056307

>>28055962
Absolutely not. Even now the girls have basically no real Chinese audience that actually watches them. Let's look at Pomu's SC's today during her bithday stream for example.

Total 1,040,353円
Top 5 currencies
USD 300 718,040円
EUR 23 488.99 67,168円
CAD 30 458.81 48,042円
GBP 20 282.00 45,705円
TWD 20 8527.00 38,991円

70% USD, and just under 90% from USD, EU, CAD, GBP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:34:45 2022 No.28056311 >>28055879 Kill yourself you mass replying nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:35:50 2022 No.28056387 >>28055962 holoEN does too. Gura is still very popular in China.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:42:06 2022 No.28056770 >>28053036 Or the "blocker" preemptively have anyone from the "blocked" company banned from using their chat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:47:00 2022 No.28057090 If (huge if) Kiara sent her a video as Kiara she had 100% management permission. If she sent it as Cake she also probably has management permission, and there may be loopholes that made it easier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:51:58 2022 No.28057377 >>28055879 >he’s still posting this holy mental illness

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 00:57:12 2022 No.28057681 didn't one of the niji girls say they were a deadbeat around the time of their debut

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:14:13 2022 No.28058673 >>28057681 This is just the first one I remembered, but i'm fairly certain that other girls talked about her https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1540385151888269312 The males like her too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9760SY8YodU

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:24:16 2022 No.28059237 >>28057681 Enna likes Mori's music and has said as much. Not sure deadbeats want to own that though because Enna is legitimately an unmedicated psychopath.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:29:35 2022 No.28059555 >>28056059 If she went that far might as well play the Kiara clip, it's not like it's written on their contracts that they can't interact on stream, going as cake princess would bring her just as much trouble

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:32:29 2022 No.28059697

>>28056770
Did any ENs ever showed up on each other's chat? Moona was on Millie's chat recently but I don't think this fuckery apply to ID, I even have a reason to believe the selen and ollie thing wasn't blocked, just couldn't happen for circumstances

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:33:09 2022 No.28059727 >>28058673 >>28059237 Yea Enna was the one I was thinking of, had no idea Finana and Vox mentoned her too though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:34:09 2022 No.28059780 File: 56 KB, 1104x809, 1652843065870.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28055879 At least post the real one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:35:42 2022 No.28059873 >>28059237 Enna was LITERALLY a participant in Mor's remix contest pre-enna days. Feesh went to a convention wearing Mori's Omocat merch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:36:09 2022 No.28059899 >>28059780 Damn Fulgur must have some mixed feelings about the graduation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:37:27 2022 No.28059979 >>28059899 >All that cute art with Sana and Fulgur that anons here made. Now all they will bring is sadness.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:43:58 2022 No.28060349

Ok, be real, lets say the floodgates open and all the corpos start having megacollabs and duos and other sorts of collabs. Hell Vshojo might just start dating the Nijimen just for irony's sake. This place 'aint gonna change, the schizos will spin rrats, the unicorns mald, and the fans mutter in their hugbox generals about how hard it was to hear their oshi talk in the VC. But at the end of the day what will it do to pay the corpos? They wont get any big spur of subs and members, no superchat cut, no overall growth in any metric worth to a business. There really is no point in open collabs, even Vshojo, the pinnacle of freedom to talents, hardly do big collabs or any collab outside the corpo because its a fucking pain in the ass to manage with no payoff. Pomu on her fucking birthday had to plan and do all this shit and she's tired as fuck, excited but also fucking exhausted for doing the most boring part of any streaming job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:48:28 2022 No.28060586 >>28059899 real talk though, why Folgore is paired with Sana so much? I can't see see the point of that shitpost

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:00:35 2022 No.28061402 File: 558 KB, 700x1082, 1627554513529.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28060586 IIRC it started with them being the lowest subbed of their respective gens.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:05:23 2022 No.28061680 >>28056307 >using youtube SC as metrics >to gauge the amount of Chinese audience

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:06:41 2022 No.28061780 >>28051741 sex with pomu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:11:56 2022 No.28062088 >>28061402 i dont think fugo was last place at the that point, i believe it was just he talked about how council didnt do as well and because sana was the prime example of the councils failings that anons shipped them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:21:31 2022 No.28062594 >>28051741 Kiara tweeted earlier with pomus birthday hashtag, its gone now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:26:52 2022 No.28062863 >>28055879 NIJISISTERS?????

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:27:35 2022 No.28062905 >>28062594 Still up for me. https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1546981425479655427

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:28:59 2022 No.28062979 >>28061680 Compare the girls SC currencies with the boys For Luxiem it is overwhelmingly TWD and HKD (and yen). For the girls there is almost nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:45:15 2022 No.28063764 What the FUCK would her managers do if she played it anyway? I want to know. They gonna fire her? For playing a video from a Hololive vtuber? Bullshit. I think she should have had some courage and played it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 03:30:10 2022 No.28066203 >>28063764 get a big fat cover dmca slapped onto you, for instance

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:17:16 2022 No.28071173 >>28062594 >>28062905 Yeah I'm sure I've seen Twitter interactions before the two and even other EN holos and nijis, I don't think they've "banned" that at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:18:50 2022 No.28071222 >>28063764 pressured into "resigning" worse, burdened with product sponsors

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:24:09 2022 No.28071406

>>28060586
>>28061402
>>28062088
I remember it being because Sana had been on a long break, and then right after the leak she streamed again suddenly?
And since he's the only one who said anything you could take seriously in the leak, it was a tactical maneuver to force his oshi to stream.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:24:38 2022 No.28071422 >>28053036 Ollie was sighted in Selen's chat and Moona in Millie's chat before but ID always was a bit different

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:40:32 2022 No.28071969 >>28066203 > Cover didn't DMCA Luca over Towa and Okayu's BGM Hololive is not full of bitter assholes like your NijiGraduationRush black company.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:56:20 2022 No.28072502 >>28063764 Idk, forced apology stream?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 05:58:00 2022 No.28072560 All out whore lol.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:06:17 2022 No.28072806 >>28063764 Probably fine her or cancel projects she's working on behind the scenes. Maybe give her a collab ban or force an apology but those would make the company look really bad to anyone that isn't a Hololive-hating chink.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:06:48 2022 No.28072824

>>28051851
People have forgotten but when nijiEN 1st started they paid for ads... lots of them. Then they went and paid react to streamers to react to them. Simple, they were trying to create their own audience and didnt want the new people they got to jump ship to HoloEN.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:16:31 2022 No.28073249

>>28051741
>Kiara mentioned Pomu by name several times
>Pomu never mentioned Kiara by name only implied it was her after some major activity
Not saying its solid evidence and I watch both corpos, but this sounds to me like NijiEN managers are the ones blocking the collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:23:23 2022 No.28073552 >>28073249 >Pomu never mentioned Kiara by name What

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:24:09 2022 No.28073588 >>28072824 source?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:28:38 2022 No.28073816 >>28073249 Dude I don't even watch Pomu much and I can tell this is wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:31:44 2022 No.28073975 >>28052687 This collab should be studied by every content creator to know exactly what not to do

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:34:51 2022 No.28074116

>>28051895
If I had to wildly speculate with absolutely no evidence, I would say they want NijiEN to be seen as its own thing with its own identity and not just sidekicks for HoloEN.

Or somebody in Niji management could have heated personal beef with Omega.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:37:01 2022 No.28074205 >>28074116 I can understand that being a valid reason for Year 1, but it's been over a year for Lazulight now, they should just allow Kiara and Pomu to collab already

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:41:47 2022 No.28074409 >>28074205 Yeah I got nothing. Maybe management just doesn't want them associating with the Hololive brand at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:50:08 2022 No.28074736 >>28052247 was i suposed to read this in puri puri prisoner's voice? cause I did

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 06:56:59 2022 No.28074984 They should either stop begging or shit on the management. This is just pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 07:08:10 2022 No.28075408 >>28074984 Right. I wish they would just tell which side is doing it too. End the timeloop already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 08:32:05 2022 No.28078243 Sorry Pomu, no all-out whores allowed kek.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 08:37:01 2022 No.28078386 File: 462 KB, 585x564, 1654946920352.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] where's my nijicure?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 08:40:36 2022 No.28078477 >>28063764 They'll force her to pay the expensive hololive collab fees.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 08:40:52 2022 No.28078483 File: 64 KB, 640x380, nijicure.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28078386 They are working on it, but it will take some time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 10:32:02 2022 No.28082095 The real question is.... Does the nijiJP also had holoJP in their totsu on birthday this year?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 11:42:44 2022 No.28084362 bumpmu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 13:20:32 2022 No.28088898 >>28057090 Not necessarily true. If she knew it wouldn't be shown then it makes no difference. We still don't know which side is preventing it from being shown because both sides can block it. Niji by managerial intervention, Holo by DMCA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 13:22:41 2022 No.28088988 >>28055879 It's kinda funny that all this seething about hololive appeared in a random leaked snippet, imagine all the shit they talk on the regular, Holo EN should never get near these snakes.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 14:44:25 2022 No.28092804

>>28055879
This discord leak being consider a big YAB and look upon as a great sin by /vt/ and most non-/here/ should show how vtuber fans is the same as twittertrannies. Are you really telling me this is shit talking? Not to mention that this chat is likely a response after holoEN announcing a male audition after nijiEN announcement the day before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 14:51:12 2022 No.28093103 no one in this thread knows what copyrighted music is

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 15:22:14 2022 No.28094706
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All this tells me is that Niji is blocking it, because Kiara wouldn't have made and sent a vid if she knew Cover would block it, and Pomu literally says
"You have to pretend I played it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAecWb_yTs&t=10390s

>>28082095
>Does the nijiJP also had holoJP in their totsu on birthday this year?
1. Learn English
2. Yes retard most likely. NijiJP HoloJP "NijiID" and HoloID are all free to interract. Ollie collabs with NijiID a fuck ton but can't collab with Selen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 15:26:04 2022 No.28094871 I don't care who's blocking it, but I thank them for doing so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 15:38:39 2022 No.28095552 >>28094706 Nijisanji did censor out Hololive before, so there's a precedence of Nijisanji blocking Hololive.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 15:58:23 2022 No.28096681

>>28094706
What the fuck crawled up NijiENs managements ass? I genuinely expected Holos managers to have an eternal stick up their ass about collabs, especially with Niji. But it specifically NijiEN thats got a problem with HoloEN.

What the fuck is the problem? Too much time on /vt/? If so, then get the fuck out and focus on your fucking job. Blocking collabs because your fragile egos got bruised by anons shitposting is not part of your contract, I'm pretty sure.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:09:18 2022 No.28097256
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>>28096681
>What the fuck crawled up NijiENs managements ass
The Chinese hate Hololive
The Chinese fucking LOVE NijiEN (males)

This is why the block is happening. Only after a huge Coco tier yab will they be allowed to collab (assuming Anycolor doesn't just fucking kneel and actually pulls out)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:12:07 2022 No.28097389 >>28051741 >"I had one more, but you are gonna have to pretend I played it on stream." https://youtu.be/zkAecWb_yTs?t=10412 Your move Dramanigger. Where is the part you said?

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:13:54 2022 No.28097456

>>28097256
So it's just a matter of time then? Zhangs are desperate to be offended by anything microscopic.

Still, I find it pathetic. Holding up your entire female streamer base just because some (hundreds, if not dozens) bugmen decide to screech. Seems like Holo made the wiser decision.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:14:19 2022 No.28097479 All this /pol/ tinfoil shit for a shitty collab touch grass desuwa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:14:24 2022 No.28097481 >>28094706 that shitty chart doesn't demonstrate anything. I also think it's bold to assume that kiara wouldn't send the video regardless of which side is doing the blocking, hoping to get permission for it to be played by the time of the stream.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:17:49 2022 No.28097650

>>28097481
>doesn't demonstrate anything
It tells you what they can and can't do retardchad
>I also think it's bold to assume that kiara wouldn't send the video regardless of which side is doing the blocking
I didn't assume that you dumb nigger, I'm just stating a fact.
Kiara sent Pomu a video, birthday videos are ALWAYS played on streams.
Why the fuck would Kiara send a video if she didn't want it to be played on stream? She could've just privately called her if that were the case instead.

It's fucking obvious it's Nijimanagement, It was before this and this just confirmed it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:18:34 2022 No.28097681 >>28097481 >that shitty chart doesn't demonstrate anything If you're ESL and think something that basic is confusing to your brain then sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:35:06 2022 No.28098564 >>28097256 >>28097456 Females couldn't collab with Holo before Luxiem even debuted. Fuck off to twitter trannietourists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:36:38 2022 No.28098655 >>28098564 t. SEEEEEEEEEEEETHING woman

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:37:31 2022 No.28098701 >>28098564 >Females couldn't collab with Holo before Luxiem even debuted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_46CpXGpVE Here's a female niji collabing with holos

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:39:54 2022 No.28098831 >>28097650 >>28097681 The same squares would be red on the chart regardless of who's blocking who, you mouthbreathers. And sending the video shows that Kiara thinks it might be allowed, nothing else

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:41:44 2022 No.28098916

>>28098831
>The same squares would be red on the chart regardless of who's blocking who,
Yea dumbfuck

But last night we just got confirmation
You even fucking admit it
>Kiara thinks it's allowed
Therefore she sent Niji management through Cover and Niji said don't play it on stream

Very hard to work through that huh? You literal dumbfuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:43:29 2022 No.28098998 >>28098655 YWNBW >>28098701 >NijiID member Dilate, tranny. Let me spoonfeed you a little bit: Only NijiEN is forbidden to collab with Holo, other branches were always free to collab with HoloID and HoloJP and still are free to do so

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:44:34 2022 No.28099044 >>28098998 >>28098564 Stop spamming buzzwords it'll make you point at least look more valid dumbass

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:45:05 2022 No.28099075 >>28098998 >Let me tell you information literally the entire thread knows Thanks retardchad!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:45:36 2022 No.28099100 >>28098998 t. idiot

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:53:23 2022 No.28099508

>>28097650
Why did Selen attempt to set up a collab with Ollie if she knew that her own side's management would block it?
That's the same logic here. No one knows which side is blocking it and just because they are attempting to do things doesn't mean that we know which side is the issue. All we know is that Pomu can't show it on stream and both sides have the ability to block it. It could be Niji, Holo, or both management.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:55:13 2022 No.28099592
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>>28099508
>That's the same logic here
No it's not you fucking newfag
They were the very FIRST attempt. And BOTH managements agreed to it and they literally had a date for the collab.
Then upper management (Niji's) got wind of it and shut it down a few days before they could do it.

Stop being a literal newnigger lurk a trillion years

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:57:52 2022 No.28099716 >>28099592 You know so much. Can you tell me which way the stock market will move today?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:58:44 2022 No.28099752 >>28099716 >Give a literal fact >"W-WELL IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH..." I accept your concession

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:58:49 2022 No.28099758

>>28062088
fungus covid was always the lowest of his gen
and still the lowest in the branch
his tactical emotional-chink deflection measures pre-debut worked (276k/1.44k daily)
it will take months for him to pass Reimu(302k/1k daily)

If he never did that he would probably be first just because of the connection to Vox

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:59:14 2022 No.28099773 >>28099716 Fuck off newfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:00:19 2022 No.28099825 >>28099044 >>28099075 >>28099100 Tranny hands typed these posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:04:05 2022 No.28099989 >>28099752 >An entire headcanon complete with new characters that we've never heard of (upper management). >Literal fact

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:06:49 2022 No.28100091 >>28099716 All bets are on Anycolor stock continuing to drop.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:06:51 2022 No.28100094

>>28099989
>>An entire headcanon
Here comes the spoonfeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_lYfNNw78
>Sadly the Collab is canceled/postponed until further notice (as said in the Chicory Endurance SC reading)
>Both Ollie and Selen were excited for this collab, but some things out of their control has happened, and the collab might happen next year.

>Nov 2021

I once again accept your concession, no need to reply

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:07:30 2022 No.28100122 >>28099989 newfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:07:54 2022 No.28100138 >>28100094 >And BOTH managements agreed to it >Then upper management (Niji's) got wind of it and shut it down a few days before they could do it. What about these parts?

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:09:10 2022 No.28100188

>>28100138
>>And BOTH managements agreed to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_lYfNNw78
This entire fucking clip you fucking retard.
>>Then upper management (Niji's) got wind of it and shut it down a few days before they could do it.
The first quote and literally last night with Nijishart management blocking Kiara's video from being played
Any more retarded questions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:09:40 2022 No.28100203 >>28100138 >still trying You're actually embarrassing yourself anon...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:11:22 2022 No.28100272 >>28100188 >>28100203 Let me know when you two collab for a novel project in the future. I want to be the first to the book signing

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:11:24 2022 No.28100274

>>28099592
They weren't the first attempt, Kiara talked about her collab plans with Pomu back in like October.
And why would Niji upper management care about NijiEN collabs?
>chink like niji
Then why can ID and JP (where the zhang spergout happened) still collab
>chink like luxiem
Then what about the 8 months before luxiem? Before Luxiem, the girls had 0 chink viewership.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:14:27 2022 No.28100408 >>28098916 ESLs and not being able to read. Name a better duo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:14:55 2022 No.28100425 >>28100188 Your concept of a "upper management" overseeing those interactions is a headcanon\| pure and simple That is just the same as what people kept saying at the time >HoloEN management reached out to HoloID management to block the collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:17:36 2022 No.28100532 >>28099592 Didn't HoloX shadowdrop the day that Ollie and Selen were scheduled to collab? I wouldn't be surprised if Holo management pulled the plug so that Holofans would focus more on HoloX than the first collab with NijiEN.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:21:57 2022 No.28100720
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>>28100188
>last night with Nijishart management blocking Kiara's video
It's only an assumption, both Kiara and Pomu didn't confirm it and didn't state anything besides Pomu saying that she couldn't show one particular video. Even if it was Kiara's video as the rrats assume, the reasons for the block are only speculations, nothing more. By the way, holobros conviniently forget that this argument isn't one sided as HoloEN never collabed with Niji members either, including ID and JP, so the rrat goes in both sides. If NijiEN has holo ban because they never collabed with holo, than HoloEN has niji ban because they never collabed with niji eiter, simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:24:50 2022 No.28100843 >>28051741 Timestamp?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:27:39 2022 No.28100946 >>28100843 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAecWb_yTs&t=10390s

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:34:31 2022 No.28101221 >>28100946 Thank you anon, interesting how chat also caught on that it might've been Kiara

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 18:10:29 2022 No.28102829 >>28101221 Pipshit, what you don't understand is that your whore is a glasscanon and can't handle confrontation

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 18:14:00 2022 No.28102983 >>28100274 ID and JP are exclusively Indonesian and Japanese. Imagine blocking collab between fellow countrymen over foreign sponsor from country you have disputes with

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 18:28:23 2022 No.28103717 >>28059780 Mysterio...

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 18:30:37 2022 No.28103821

The most likely and sad scenario
>BOTH management are blocking it
cause is not just a "nijiEN can't collab"
holo-EN also never had a collab with any Niji
especially considering how close they are with ID and holoIDs in turn are close to niji-ID
There's a good possibility someone like Iofi, Risu or Ollie organized a collab and invited holoEN and nijiID but got cancelled behind the scenes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 18:44:58 2022 No.28104459 >>28051741 niji management: pomu you will never be hololive holo management: pomu you will never be hololive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:24:19 2022 No.28106167 >>28055879 I maintain that whoever posts this image seeks to deflect from the real reason behind the collab ban.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:50:42 2022 No.28107347 >>28056057 yeah pomu is a hypocrite leech and kiara a gullible airhead

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:52:32 2022 No.28107425
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This entire situation is fucking retarded and I'm tired of discussion about it.
They should just let them fucking collab who fucking cares.
Regardless of who's stopping it, whoever is would look completely fucking hypocritical to do so.
Also these are the two most inoffensive ones, it's not like Gura and fucking Vox or Ame and Shu or some shit. It's literally just gonna be idoltalk for 2 hours then stream end.
I fucking hate managers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:53:06 2022 No.28107454 >>28107347 This anon wants guys in HoloEN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:53:25 2022 No.28107469 >>28107347 see >>28107454

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 19:53:56 2022 No.28107494
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Theory X: Kiara was able to send the video because she sent it not as "Kiara" but as a flesh and blood 3D. Pomu wasn't able to show the vid because Kiara was buck naked, singing Marilyn Monroe's version of the birthday song.

>Happy birrrthday, Po-mu Ra-ainpufff...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:00:28 2022 No.28107803 >>28107454 >>28107469 homosEN will be a thing, you know

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:01:11 2022 No.28107839 >>28107803 Them being a thing and wanting them to be a thing aren't the same

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:01:54 2022 No.28107876 >>28107803 Except they didn't announce HoloStars EN They announced, and I quote, "Male VTuber auditions for hololive English"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:04:47 2022 No.28108016 File: 74 KB, 1024x802, 1649921459337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28107876 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wA1SOzKVsU&t=0s then why is it on the HoloStars official channel and not hololive genius

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:05:27 2022 No.28108049 >people still think that it's niji that is blocking the collabs >When Subaru literally fucking said that they can't collab with a lot of people nowadays because they're "too popular" Jesus christ, you ENfags really don't watch JP at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:05:58 2022 No.28108068 >>28108049 >>When Subaru literally fucking said that they can't collab with a lot of people nowadays because they're "too popular" Proof? Any proof at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:08:16 2022 No.28108199 >>28108068 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvuGHKgw0w

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:08:40 2022 No.28108221 >>28108068 I'm sure there is some eop sub out there, so just look up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsE7186WDI

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:09:13 2022 No.28108250 >>28073249 >>Pomu never mentioned Kiara by name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdl3jsQCXsI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nShFYM8wsQY https://youtu.be/-iSI8pcGotU?t=46

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:09:59 2022 No.28108284 >>28108199 >>28108221 >Man Hololive sure has gotten big This literally does not mean what you quoted her to have supposedly said

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:10:58 2022 No.28108317 >>28108284 "I just don't have as much freedom as before"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:16:54 2022 No.28108600 >>28108284 I don't know how new you are, but holos aren't exactly keeping a secret about not being able to collab with certain people because managemet blocked them. Matsuri, Towa, Subaru and Laplace all talked about this before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:18:52 2022 No.28108674 >>28107425 Vshojo is that way, you know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:19:57 2022 No.28108738 >>28108674 Stop using random buzzwords anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:23:34 2022 No.28108925 File: 491 KB, 2000x2000, 1648383254352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based NijiEN management kicking down the holoreject at every opportunity they get.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:24:01 2022 No.28108946 >SEAfags unironically kept bumping the thread during the night just to keep the drama going >>28084362 >>28082095 The removal of just one set of countries on this board would clean up 80% of all tribalism, I swear.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:39:03 2022 No.28109631 >>28055879 The block happened even before that discord leak

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 20:41:14 2022 No.28109716 >>28109631 Don't tell the newfags that

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