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What will Sana's legacy in Hololive be?

>> No.28010017 [DELETED] 

>>28009985
A moral lesson about nepotism

>> No.28010049

>>28009985
Who?

>> No.28010053

>>28009985
Dead dog and back hurts. That's pretty much the only things I remember from her.

>> No.28010060

>>28009985
Being the worst streamer

>> No.28010084

Ina and Omega need to be fired for tarnishing the HoloEN brand (if the latter hasn't already)

>> No.28010092

>>28009985
Worst Holo (besides those who broke company rules)

>> No.28010093

>>28009985
The others will stream more

>> No.28010116

>>28009985
dog died my back hurt

>> No.28010126

>>28010017
This doesn't explain Koone and Mio.

>> No.28010148

>>28009985
Who’s this?

>> No.28010151

>>28009985
I don't even fully understand why she quit. Like okay your back has problems and you have other obligations, just literally do 1 hr streams daily and no one would've minded.

>> No.28010153

>>28009985
That one group art she did for Council and a couple fun collabs like the April Fools swap and the genderflip one. Also her Minecraft tower.

>> No.28010170
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Unironically her legacy will just be "the first EN graduation"
She didn't take part/stream enough to create a legacy worth remembering

>> No.28010172

dead dog
and untapped aussie shitposter energy

>> No.28010209

bloom and gloom

>> No.28010210

>>28009985
Big bread or something. IDK I never saw her streams

>> No.28010242 [DELETED] 

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHO THE FUCK EVEN IS SHE?

>> No.28010265

>>28009985
High potential for creativity that got kneecapped for a series of unfortunate events.
At least gave us a fun debut stream, a soulful new outfit stream, a cheery song, a bit of Pokemon dominance in the tournament arc, and designs for Irys's fans that will ironically probably stick around longer than Sana did.

>> No.28010279

>>28010151
She just realized vtubing wasn't for her. Ina probably tried hard to convince her that vtubing was a life changing experience and she fell for it, got the job and noticed she had more fun being a full-time artist than roleplaying as an anime space girl.

>> No.28010337

That /ss/ fanart with her shota version and herself

>> No.28010344

>>28010126
both had successful streaming career & internet personality even before hololive
comparing sana and them is retard

>> No.28010378

>>28010126
WESTERN Nepotism

>> No.28010387

>>28010279
Then fucking do real time art as a vtbuer like Iofi salon or the mama chuubas, she's just a fucking quitter

>> No.28010406

>>28010279
Council must really suck if Ina has to be the one to convince Sana. Never mind that HoloMyth sticking together is a miracle in itself.

>> No.28010431

>>28010406
I'm more surprised Holomyth seemed custom built for Gura to collab with

>> No.28010433

>>28009985
Tetas como planetas

>> No.28010454

>>28009985
Big brown tits.

>> No.28010457

>>28009985
Beeeg D than you.

>> No.28010469

>>28009985
Bloom & Gloom. I will never forget Sana as long as IRyS is still around

>> No.28010488

>>28010170
This is honestly the worst of it. She's now opened the door. No other EN has to worry about being "that girl" who fucks off first. Expect more of this and soon

Thanks Sana. Bitch.

>> No.28010580

>>28010488
>Expect more of this and soon
Good. I hope the rest of Council graduates because they're too "distraught" at one of their mems leaving.

>> No.28010583

>>28010126
Nepotism implies they weren't as qualified. Sana was a good artist but barely had any streaming experience.

>> No.28010594

>>28010387
>Then fucking do real time art as a vtbuer like Iofi salon or the mama chuubas
She works for gacha mobile games. There is the obvious issue between Hololive and Genshin / AL Chinese fans, so that'd make it difficult

>> No.28010614

>>28010017
fpbp

>> No.28010627

>>28010583
>Sana was a good artist
Where was her drawing stream? Or did she refuse to draw on stream?

>> No.28010628

She drew IRyS' mascot.

>> No.28010639
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Huge amounts of fanart for huge brown planetary tidders.

Thank you, Sana!

>> No.28010665

>>28010279
INA FUCKED EVERYTHING UP
FUCK INA

>> No.28010690

>>28009985
That you should appreciate vtubers while they're still here, before it's too late. Now I have to say goodbye to another deliciously massive pair of tits

>> No.28010757

>>28009985
Literally nothing. She'll be forgotten in a week.

>> No.28010800

>>28010488
Then this could be the catalyst that leads to Mori graduating, which makes Sana based as fuck

>> No.28010820

>>28010594
That's still not an excuse, Holobronys literally hang out in an empty chat throwing superchats because they like their oshi. She could literally just play tic tac toe with chat for an hour and it would've still gotten more interaction and views than every indie chuuba and most of Niji.

>> No.28010825

>>28010053
I have a herniated disc in my back that sends constant shooting pain around into my chest and down my arm, and there's no reason at all I couldn't stream for 12 hours a day on most days. All I have to do is get comfy in my recliner and grab a controller. It seems like a really stupid excuse.

>> No.28010833

>>28009985
she'll be forever known as vtuber with dead dog

>> No.28010859

IRyS cats

>> No.28010902

>>28010825
of course that was a lie, no corporation will give you a month off for a dead dog

>> No.28010978

>>28010126
When will you retards learn the difference between nepotism and being a qualified applicant with good references?

>> No.28011003

The watermelon farm on the EN server

>> No.28011024 [DELETED] 

>>28010627
universe creation

>> No.28011040

>>28010406
What does her discussing things with a long term friend have to do with Council? She wouldn't have even known them then.

>> No.28011270

was the dog cute? did it really die? it's sadder news than graduation

>> No.28011351

>>28009985
How Nepotism ruined someone elses chances for another person who was half assed about it.

>> No.28011374

>>28010153
Also making Yagoo birth a horse, commissioning a fan artist to draw for her MV, a unique space birthday project, Bloom and Gloom, etc.

>> No.28011398

>>28009985
She'll forever be the "literally who?" of Hololive.

>> No.28011403

First small-view to graduate. Before it looked like Cover would only get rid of the talent after some big drama, but small numbers girls like Aki, Choco, Mel could stay for years no problem. After Sana graduation this image of hololive is no more.

>> No.28011412

>>28009985
back hort

>> No.28011443

>>28010126
What the fuck? Korone established herself as a giant of vtubing that everyone looks up to and Mio is a Pillar of Hololive along with Fubuki and Sora.

>> No.28011490
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I’ll never forgive this bitch for making Watame cry

>> No.28011516

>>28011490
she's uohing, anon

>> No.28011551

>>28011490
Doesn’t take much to make watame cry to be tair

>> No.28011632

>>28010279
This

>> No.28011665

Why didn't they let her do more art streams so she can feel at home? Even better, art collabs with Ina.

>> No.28011682

>>28009985
a cute bubbly smile and an absolute monster rack

>> No.28011702

Nothing at all.

>> No.28011729

Ina getting no more nepotism hires

>> No.28011741 [DELETED] 

Conor was right.

>> No.28011794

Sana will be the last of the tiddy monsters. It's little girls from now on.

>> No.28011803

>>28011741
Of course he was. His point was that Hololive girls get free subs for existing in Hololive, which is completely true. It's literally a network. There's a reason the girls get 200k subs right at debut

>> No.28011806

>>28011741
This, 100%

>> No.28011836

>no streams
>dog ded
>back hort
>first en graduation
that's all she'll be remembered for

>> No.28011903

Her minecraft building would be there for them to remember

>> No.28011994

my dog died let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.28012018

>>28009985
I didn't really follow her.
So why is she graduating exactly?

>> No.28012045

>>28011741
Who?

>> No.28012051

>>28009985
Getting a free win ticket indies would kill for
and throw it away because she doesn't feel like it

>> No.28012070

>>28011741
because he said a company with a big following means EZ fans?
no shit, even the smaller ones get ez fans, look at kson being indy didn’t get the fans so she went to a company for exposure lmao

>> No.28012111

>>28009985
Say what you will about her streaming output, but Astrogirl is genuinely great and her collabs with Ina have showed us a side of the Tako that would have NEVER surfaced otherwise.

Matter of fact, it's probably her collab presence that will be missed most, because it was genuine quality content when it was 1v1.

>> No.28012140

A waste of big brown, planetary sized titties.

>> No.28012197

>>28011665
Do you really think they forbid that? She didn't want to do it.

>> No.28012198

I feel bad for Pako

>> No.28012205

She literally didn't have enough presence to leave a legacy. Even Mano Aloe had more personality.

>> No.28012235

>>28012051
>friend ina tells her how great vtubing is, money from playing game
>can’t play favourite Chinese gacha games
>dog dies
>back injury
>everyone else can meet up have fun
>shitty Australian internet
Can you blame her? Imagine getting stuck in a job you can’t enjoy, watching everyone else do what they like plus shitty rules from company

>> No.28012238

>>28012205
Who?

>> No.28012270

>>28012205
Even fucking Hitomi Chris left behind a legacy and changed the way Cover handled things from then on. Sana just never did anything worth while.

>> No.28012292

She will be the last big titty vtuber in hololive.

HoloEN gen3 onwards will have at least 3 flat chested lolis. It seems like high subs come from pedophiles and hololive will rebrand themselves a Loli-live.

>> No.28012293

>was still desperately clinging to “hehe Sana is beeg” from her fucking debut
She will have no legacy, she literally didn’t stream enough to develop a personality

>> No.28012310

>>28010800
Kronii, Ame, and Gura are all far more likely to graduate before Mori, sadly.

>> No.28012329

>>28010488
lol you are delusional

>> No.28012372

>>28012238
Meme all you want, a month from now nobody will remember Sana existed, outside of tribalfagging bait threads, and even Delta will be more discussed here than her. And she also barely streams.

>> No.28012433

>>28011443
That's what he's saying. They were nepotism hires and they're good.

>> No.28012445

>>28012310
The universal deal made Mori the least likely graduation in the english branch. This place is cursed.

>> No.28012450

Thought I'd give /vt/ a check but everyone's opinions really don't amount to much. Peace out containment bubble drones.

>> No.28012463

>>28012018
Not clear but looks like she don't want to or have no time to stream. either she got demotivated by the low numbers or more likely, her 30 days break had some event she never recovered from.

>> No.28012495

>>28012445
Cover wouldn't care. They went scorched earth on HoloCN.

>> No.28012509

Quality > Quantity

>> No.28012519

I mean the fact that seemingly no one is really crying about this shows exactly how much we all care.

She was pretty much already graduated in my eyes months ago.

>> No.28012520

>>28010060
I wish genuine harm on you

>> No.28012535

>>28009985
Raped by kangaroos.

>> No.28012548

>>28012509
Sana had neither

>> No.28012596

>>28012495
Mori does care though. She won't leave willingly nor intentionally step far enough out of line to get sacked. Only way she could get graduated is a Rushia tier massive fuckup.

>> No.28012711

>>28010825
It'd be an issue if part of your contract involved dancing and doing 3d shit.

>> No.28012718

>>28012310
Ame and Gura haven't given any signs of wanting to leave.
Ame is closer than ever with her members and while Gura's doing fine.
Kronii is pulling herself up by her straps and getting back into streaming regularly again.

>> No.28012879

>>28012372
>a month from now

most people didn't even remember she existed before today

>> No.28012885 [DELETED] 

>>28012718
Ame absolutely hates the vast majority of her fans and it's painfully obvious. Members are different, but that barely matters. I feel really bad for her. Ina and Kiara got exactly the type of fanbase they wanted to cultivate. Mori and Gura are sort of 50/50 and then Ame is just stuck with the most awful and pathetic fanbase and she barely did anything to cause it to happen.

>> No.28012935

>>28012519
She took weeks off when her dog died after council had barely started, she graduated there and then. The rest is all just edging.

>> No.28013117

>>28012463
Only thing I can think of is pregnant

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>>28009985

>> No.28013203

>>28012879
This reminded them. Give it a month and searching for "sana" on the archives will start to give you one result a week at most.

>> No.28013274

>>28013203
What is this supposed to prove? You can do the same with Aloe. There just isn't much of a reason to bring up a dead member.
Coco is the exception because she is very much still relevant.

>> No.28013291

>>28011741
The dude that latched on to TheAnimeMan's tits for views complaining about getting free subs? whaaaaaaa????

>> No.28013294

>>28011741
I don't really get his point, it just sounds Connor has the wrong perspective about it, he talks like the success comes from nowhere.

It wasn't Cover "fantastic" marketing that make their talents and Hololive get big, it was the girls themselves that managed to get big with their own efforts, and you can just look at how tings went for Korone, from 3view to one of the biggest vtubers around, and she achieved that grinding hard by herself. Even the success of HoloEN can be traced for the success many HoloJP already had in the west, plus the little overlay certain fanbases, like Gura's has with others, meaning they came there for her and not really Hololive in general. Hololive is what made vtubing a popular thing in the west too, even before HoloEN, and all the western indies/corpos we have wouldn't be around or be as succesful they are now without Hololive kickstarting the trend in the west, that includes Vshojo and Ironmouse. Getting in the trend at the right time, getting lucky and going viral, putting effort and passion in the right way, etc, seem to be what applied to all the succesful vtubers.

If anything Sana graduating goes against his point.

>> No.28013395 [DELETED] 

Damn, Fulgur was right all along and Sana is the the one to point to now.

>> No.28013559

>>28013291
>>28013294
Connor is just retarded and can't see the bigger picture and probably believes his success is all him and the ones around that supported him have no merit reason why he made such a shallow comment, doesn't realize that it was the same for him and Ironmouse too. She does however, reason why Iromouse told him that it's not a good idea to talk about these things at the time.

>> No.28013707

>>28009985
I thought you need to have at least some streaming experience to join Hololive. She clearly didn't have any, given she backed out of vtubing.

>> No.28013757

>>28012711
Yeah that's fair. It would aggravate the problem and make my pain a lot worse, but honestly no reason they couldn't just have someone else do the dancing and have me do the singing and voice stuff. There are ways to make it work and I would insist that the company explore them if I actually cared.

>> No.28013877

>>28011741
Connor's entire point was "lie on your application form and interview Mouse, and when you're hired you just fake it til you make it. It's easier for a big company LIKE Hololive because you get given such a big platform it's hard to fail."

Mouse then told Connor stupid for thinking that there's not more than one step to the hiring process, because he's had an easy career path as his three jobs have only had the interview process of:
>can you pack groceries into a bag? (Supermarket)
>can you swim? (Pool lifeguard)
>can you come live in Japan? (picked out by a talent scout for his JoJo YouTube content because they were grabbing popular anime Youtubers to be ambassadors for the West when they slapped Trash Taste together)

>> No.28014059

>>28012018
Not totally clear as it's kept vague. Her graduation announcement dropped some lines saying she wasn't satisfied with how it ended. I think from what she was implying ("thanks for the support, if only that was enough) she was hoping that she could be a casual streamer who can just hang out with fans while playing comfy games and being a goofball. She wanted something different from what Cover wanted and they couldn't compromise on a schedule to keep both sides happy.

Honestly, if she went indie or went with a smaller place (I'm talking on the level of VOMS rather than VShojo), she might be happier.

>> No.28014100

Which nepotism hire is worse. Sana or Uki in NijiEN?

>> No.28014264

>>28014059
>She wanted something different from what Cover wanted and they couldn't compromise on a schedule to keep both sides happy.
Would something like that really be an issue? I mean there are multiple JP members that barely ever stream and it doesn't seem to be an issue. Cover gains nothing from losing her, even if they consider her performance subpar.

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>>28012018
being a corporate vtuber means streaming regularly since its your job. sana really just wasn't in to that so she didn't get her contract renewed.

>> No.28014547

>>28014264
i assume the difference is that other jp members such as ayame have a dedicated following, whereas sana has nothing due to taking her breaks in the first year
speaking of, that's probably another part of it iirc there's a required streaming amount for the first year, so it makes sense that sana doesn't get the same leniency as the others due to that still being in effect

>> No.28014593

>>28013559
Ironmouse just didn't want to burn bridges, she's THE western unityfag collab vtuber.

>> No.28014633 [DELETED] 

>>28009985
MY DOG DIED, LETS GOOOO

>> No.28014667

>>28014100
Isn't NijiEN like 1 step away from just being the vshojo whores but with a bit more budget?

>> No.28014672

>>28013294
This.
Connor is a retard.

>> No.28014689

>>28014361
>Fauna only 10 hours behind Bae
I did not expect that. Guess Kronii and Mumei's success means that they don't feel the need to stream as much, while Sana just gave up immediately.
The Rat is clearly the one most motivated, but Fauna is pretty consistent.
>all those 3-day weekends for Kronii

>> No.28014878

>>28012885
I have not watched many Ame streams so i don't know too much about her fanbase. What exactly do you mean, what don't you like or what do you think Ame hates?

>> No.28014974

>>28010665
DON'T MIND IF I DO

>> No.28015063

>>28009985
no streams, no content
waste of time

>> No.28015074

>>28014689
>Sana just gave up immediately.
Sana had the most streams before her dog died.
She was only behind Calli and Kiara in hours streamed for a couple of months after she came back from that.

It's the back injury that fucked up her streaming times.
>b-b-but roommate genshin streams!
two contractually obligated streams that were an hour each which didn't require her to sit upright in front of a camera

>> No.28015148

>>28015074
>It's the back injury that fucked up her streaming times.
Cope

>> No.28015152

>>28009985
big, fat, brown milkies

>> No.28015473
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>>28015152
I prefer Flare's still.

>> No.28015508

>>28009985
being a nigger

>> No.28015532

>>28009985
Giving Irys a seat in Council

>> No.28015559

>>28010017
Pekora...

>> No.28015602

>>28015532
Wait for Omega to take it, LOL

>> No.28016058

>>28009985
>Hey, don't you remember that holo that brought up bread every 5 seconds and never streamed

>> No.28016091

>>28011003
Irys made that

>> No.28016393

That one holo that chose gacha addiction over fame and fortune.

>> No.28016445

Anyone not feel anything about this graduation?
Coco hurt the worst, then Aloe.

>> No.28016624

>>28010060
how can she be the worst streamer if she never streamed?

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>>28015074
Oh noes, she had to sit upright for a full hour? Could she breathe without tubes? Fucking Ironmouse can't, and she steamed 24/7 for... How long, a month?

>> No.28016718 [DELETED] 

>>28016703
ironmouse has a kid, she needs to stream kek

>> No.28016772

>>28009985
>Here lies Sana
>She never streamed

>> No.28017005

>>28016703
>actually believing ironmouse's larp
lmaoing@you

>> No.28017394

>>28009985
Hitomi Chris had more impact on hololive than this literal who

>> No.28017441

>>28012596
>Only way she could get graduated is a Rushia tier massive fuckup.
To be fair, we're talking about mori here, its not THAT far fetched to imagine mori doing something like this, she's really fucking autistic some times and i dont find it hard to believe that one of these autism moments is going to fuck her.
Not saying it will happen, but i can see it happening.

>> No.28017448

>>28012885
Nothing special about Ame there. If you seriously think most vtubers don't hate the vast majority of their fans with a passion you are delusional. Money and attentions are a hell of a drug though, so they can't quit even though they despise you all on a personal level.

>> No.28017776

>>28016772
lost

>> No.28017836

>>28009985
First EN holo to quit.

She didn't stream long enough to even make a legacy, no one will remember Sana after a few weeks because she had a literal nonimpact. This happens when you put in literally zero effort expecting to make it because hololive.

>> No.28018069

>>28017836
But she never expected to make it? She was already pretty successful as an artist, she was pulled in by Ina and if anything ,she realized she prefers being an artist more than being the virtual equivalent of a e-thot.

>> No.28018082

>>28017836
>She didn't stream long enough to even make a legacy
Aloe didn't even last a month and she still gets fondly remembered.

>> No.28018173

>>28010017
Miko got Pekora. Fubuki got Mio and Korone and Okayu. Explain why this should be allowed?

>> No.28018239

>>28011551
still wonder why she didn't cry over rushia

>> No.28018240

>>28018082
Who?

>> No.28018484

>>28009985
Hopefully more brown vtubers

>> No.28018594

>>28018484
If anything, I think Sana's low numbers and early graduation will put a damper on that.

>> No.28018647

>>28009985
Her huge planets

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People will look down a list of hololive members and be able to describe them until they get to Sana. "the one that graduated".

>> No.28018756

>>28009985
In six months this board will act like they always loved her and that she was some misunderstood genius. There will be more sanalites in a year than there are now

>> No.28018807

>>28014059
>>28014264
A lot of the JPs who don't stream that much do a lot of other stuff. They do idolshit, hologra, song collabs, big sponsored content, etc. Its less they had a good first year so can give up, and more that they are involved with bigger projects.

Sana didn't even really reach casual streamer, it was a stream a week on a good month. But more than that she just didn't want to draw, her main skill was a thing she pushed out of her channel. With everything else going on she wasn't up to much, didn't build her channel and wanted to keep her art separate.

>>28015074
Her stream time was highly dependent on there being a game she was interested in. She either binged or peaced out.

>> No.28018810

>>28018484
Considering how hard Sana bombed. I would be surprised if Cover ever touches THAT again.

She failed out the gate.

>> No.28018844

>>28009985
She's a good number 2 for whenever the girls play minecraft. You can always depend on her to be there to help around with the girls' projects.

>> No.28019058

>>28009985

"Who?"

Basically the answer to a trivia question that nobody gets.

>> No.28019067

>>28018082
The first thing Aloe did in her debut video was immediately burst out singing, and she sounded like a Vocaloid. That entrance alone was huge. She had a completely unique tsundere voice and filled a character niche that no one else had filled yet. It was obvious to everyone that had she continued, she would have been massively popular. That's why everyone was sad and still remembers that stream fondly. What did Sana do to set herself apart from the others? oOoOOooO aStroLogY StrEaMs. Complete waste of a slot.

>> No.28019132

Only EN girl to beat a Metroid game. She might not have much, but she can hold at least that on the other EN members as she graduates

>> No.28019145

>>28009985
i forgor lol

>> No.28019160

>>28009985
That male nobody 2view streamers are better

>> No.28019174

>>28009985
who?

>> No.28019209

>>28009985
Streaming less than Kaela in 10 months

>> No.28019363

>>28012292

Considering Kroni is the most subbed of the Council, I don't think Sana going down in flames is any evidence that the internet hates big boobs.

>> No.28019549

>>28013707

Mori didn't stream before Hololive. She produced content, and that was a big plus for her from the company's point of view.

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>>28010488
>Expect more of this and soon
good, they need to purge EN asap and hire girls who actually like being idols and streaming
mori and kronii especially need to fuck off asap

>> No.28020269

>>28010279
Tbh Ina shouldn't be a vtuber too. Or stay indie at least.

>> No.28020385

>>28009985
Absolutely nothing.

She will have a short, awkward graduation stream where people struggle to think of something she did or some game they played with her and just wish her the best. The stream will end and she will never be spoken of again. No one will be sad except maybe Ina, and that's just because of the complicated situation. It's like a coworker who you've never even talked to getting hit by a bus or something; you have to sign the sympathy card for the family but you don't really feel bad about it.

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>>28009985
The flaky one that ground to a halt after failing to build up enough momentum post-debut.

>> No.28020479

>>28009985
A streamer. On the internet.

>> No.28020542

>>28019160
That was a very nice thing of you to say about me anon

>> No.28020586

>>28012235
>Can you blame her?
Yes

>> No.28020687

>>28009985
Worst Hololive hire by far. Absolutely hideous character design. Sabotaged Council with her presence. Took a spot from someone much more deserving.

Good riddance.

>> No.28021078

>>28011443
learn how to interpret text

>> No.28021804

>>28012885
How is it painfully obvious?

>> No.28021926

>>28009985
Don't hire non-streamers and the dark skin chuuba debuff israel.

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>>28017005
Genuinely curious is there any proof it's a LARP anon?

>> No.28022055

>>28018239
might be Watame's clique (hags) fought with Rushia (hag) ?

Fubuking and Flare also didn't show that much emotion, compared to Pekora or Noel or Haachama

>> No.28022063

>>28010978
qualified? She had no prior streaming experience.

>> No.28022153

>>28009985
Literally no one will remember her lmao

>> No.28022186

>>28009985
i forgot i was subscribed to her

>> No.28022211

>>28018173
No one is saying it shouldn't be allowed.
Often times current streamers will know good streamers. It is simply when current streamers try to bring on shitty streamers and vtweeters.

>> No.28022228

Council is without a doubt the worst gen

>> No.28022242

Her legacy will be redebuting in EN3

>> No.28022247

>>28020269
Yeah. She's basically on Pochimaru's level as a vtuber, except with the Hololive viewer buff.

>> No.28022283

>>28012711
If even Luna and Miko can do it, Sana has no excuse.

>> No.28022339

>>28009985
first EN nigger

>> No.28022354

>>28012711
I mean they already got away with prerecorded and animated 3D "live" stuff...

>> No.28022375

>>28012885
Ame and Ina won't do any holomeet events, because the idea of meeting their fans makes them vomit.

>> No.28022403

>debut video where she destroyed earth
>creator of Irys's mascots
>key part of EN's first animated short (which tied into Holofes announcement)
>Astrogirl, an actually nice catchy song if autotuned to hell
>Pokemon dominance
>the 12+ marathon insanity shiny hunt with Calli
Sana was pure soul, and I feel sorry for all of you who didn't appreciate her from the start

>> No.28022426

>>28012310
>Gura

I know Cover seems like spineless fucks most of the time but I doubt they'll let their World's biggest VTuber go that easily

>> No.28022608

>>28014264
Yes, Cover didn't break even on their investment with Sana. The other JP Holos print mad stacks of cash for Cover.

>> No.28022646

i just want sana to be happy

>> No.28022694

>>28015074
Stop with the back hort, bs. Neither Cover nor Sana cited health reasons as to why she's graduating.

>> No.28022742

>>28022694
You must at least give Sanalites a reason to believe or cope.

>> No.28022772

>>28022403
lol

>> No.28022778

>>28009985
Her big fat juicy chocolate titties

>> No.28022854

>>28012495
Tell me which HoloCN had a deal with UMG, you fucking idiot.

>> No.28022877

>>28011403
Aki, Choco and Mel actually do their job and are capable of performing as idols.
The same can't be said for Sana.

>> No.28022929

>>28022694
Anon, it’s not hard to read between the lines and infer that Sana’s dissatisfied having to end her time with Hololive in the way she is right now, and that her back issues definitely played a factor into her making this decision if it directly impacts her ability to stream.

>> No.28023001

>>28022877
What can be said the same for Sana?

Is the only thing I wanna know.

>> No.28023006

Her big fat juicy chocolate ass

>> No.28023025

Being the beta tester of Pekora's traps is no small feat. She can be proud of that at least...

>> No.28023039

>>28022929
>not hard to read between the lines
>and infer

This. I always listen to voices in my head too.

>> No.28023056

>>28018691
ame - the funny one
gura - the less funny one
mori - the one people like to hate
kiara- the one who actually wants to be an idol
ina - the one who likes to draw
Irys - that model wtf
faunaa- asmr maybe
mumei - weed lmao
kronii - doesn't like streaming
bae - deserves more fans
sana - had a gig outside hololive
i don't know anon i'l just think she had to chose between two career paths and picked the one she was more passionate about.

>> No.28023062

>>28020687
> Sabotaged Council with her presence.
Council is perfectly capable of sabotaging itself

>> No.28023106

>>28023056
>sana - had a gig outside hololive
Is her art that good?

>> No.28023109

>>28014361
>Kronii never streams on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.

>> No.28023113

>>28009985
Announcing graduation in the same week Coco and Rushia debut at vshojo

>> No.28023186

>>28023106
Comparative to what? Everyone feels like they draw good these days because of digital tools making it more accessible. but according to rrats. sanas art was good enough she could earn a living from it so take that as you will. being an artists doesn't nearly have the mystique these days there's just so many of them.

>> No.28023194

>>28015074
THIS. The shitpost near debut was that she’s compensating her lack of subs by streaming a lot.
Now people try to change history to pretend she never liked streaming.


>>28022694
>Vague PR statement is vague
No shit sherlock

>> No.28023218

>>28009985
Quick rundown on the "Sana is graduating" debacle?

>> No.28023219

>>28022929
Read between the lines and see that she never had a back injury to begin with. Sana wanted to continue being an occasional streamer, Cover decided to not renew her contract, that's it.

>> No.28023235

>>28022854
How the fuck could that matter more than branching out into the most profitable country in the world, retard?

>> No.28023254

>>28023106
She drew art for Arknight gacha so at least chinks liked it.

>> No.28023297

>It's either "Sana is faking her injury" or "Sana is dying"

>> No.28023317

>>28020221
So iofi and Risu next to graduate?
Lets be honest, Risu has fallen behind after Ollie took the spot

>> No.28023351

>>28022403
>Pokemon dominance
I will never forget that Pokemon tournament that Mori organized, Sana looked like an ass. Everyone was having fun with their in-game teams and she brings her sweaty ass Smogon-copied tryhard sets.

>> No.28023406

>>28018239
Rushia did something fucked up behind the scenes that we don't know about, but the Holos do. That's why she's been unpersoned, and everyone in the corp was frosty about it.
If it was a management decision to make the Holos shut up, you'd still have them leaning sympathetic but staying quiet, but I think it was enough to piss off everybody.
Only thing that rises to that level in my mind is a threat to dox

>> No.28023422

>>28018484
Nope because it's a huge disadvantage.

>> No.28023434

>>28023056
>i don't know anon i'l just think she had to chose between two career paths and picked the one she was more passionate about.
WRONG. Never apply for Hololive in the first place.

>> No.28023459

>>28020221
tfw Rushia got fired in february and still managed to garner more views than sana

>> No.28023471

>>28023106
FGO hired her to draw some promotional art as well. Her art is ok, very same face but colorful.

>> No.28023485

>>28020221
Holy shit Koyori is grinding like a madlass.

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>>28023351
fuck mori, sana warned them all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy1l2F8zhn8
>oh but she's got too many streams i forgor she told me this
fuck you mori , you don't invite tony hawk to your skate park and then expect him to not destroy you.

>> No.28023497

>>28014100
As a fan of Niji, there needs to be a rolling wave of graduations soon, starting with Yugo

>> No.28023511

>>28023459
One streams the other doesn't

>> No.28023527

>>28023471
Mind sharing it?

>> No.28023572

>>28023056
>ame - the funny one
You already ficked up, not reading the rest

>> No.28023585

>>28023109
>Kronii takes time off for the death, the burial, and the resurrection
Truly the most holy of streamers

>> No.28023590

Honestly, the main thing about Sana that irked me is she liked traps too much.

>> No.28023634

>>28023572
post your list then, oh wait that's right you don't have one. so guess what i'm not even readine line one.
check mate

>> No.28023670

>>28023590
>she liked traps too much.
holy shit based

>> No.28023683

>>28023590
that rocket joke was great

>> No.28023739 [DELETED] 

>mods delete my thread
>this one stays on
This new mod is shit.

>> No.28023767

>>28010049
Thread

>> No.28023776

>>28009985
She'll be known as a hardworking member of Hololive, just like the jannies of this board.

>> No.28023816

>>28009985
having an alternative shota model that was far superior to her actual model

>> No.28023858

>>28010627
She refused to draw on stream, at least in the beginning
Anons here were speculating she didn't want to take away from Ina's "thing", and I could see that being the case, despite being a very silly motivation

>> No.28023931

>>28009985
Well she got her fans to send a letter into space

>> No.28023955

>>28023739
What thread you made though?

>> No.28024006

>>28010627
probably didn't want to btfo ina

>> No.28024124

>>28023459
lmao

>> No.28024298

>>28023858
Does that even make sense though? As long as they don't stream at the same time would that reduce viewership for inas drawing streams? Hell, you could make the argument that together they could both synergize and draw more artist fans into watching holo en together than with just ina.

>> No.28024363

>>28009985
Being the first HoloEn to graduate
Being the first "black" Holo vtuber
That's it, everything about is her forgettable

>> No.28024380

>>28023816
If she was San from the start, her fanbase would have been 100% gays and 5% fujos.

>> No.28024467

Mori and Kronii are going to graduate soon. It's quite obvious that Kronii is not enjoying streaming and Cali would rather be on stage rapping than playing video games

>> No.28024503

>>28023858
I doubt it was anything either than her just not being confident in her drawing speed. Half of Ina's thing with her drawing streams is being a speed demon and whether or not you like hers or Sana's art more, Sana just couldn't compare when it comes to speed.

>> No.28024520

>>28024467
>Mori is going to graduate soon
I don't think there has been a single day on here in the past year without someone saying this.
>Kronii
She just scheduled a week full of streams and is getting back to regularity.

>> No.28024617

>>28024520
There is gonna come a point where she quits, just like Coco did after she became #1 most viewed vtuber

>> No.28024625

>>28024520
Kronii...

>> No.28024645

She just landed, and she's already forced to return to space once more.

>> No.28024661

>>28024617
Yes, you are certainly right.
If every single day you claim Mori will quit, then one day you will be correct.
Flawless system.

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Looks like he will become a sapling.
Poor fucker was really proud of her too, what a waste.

>> No.28024739

>>28024661
But wishful thinking rarely comes true, especially if delusional ones.

>> No.28024748

>>28016624
who is a better quarterback, you or Nathan Peterman?

>> No.28024798

To make better hiring decisions?

Seriously, I don’t know what else to say. I believe that she went through legit debuffs. I just think someone who was experienced would handle them better, and Hololive is not the place to gain that experience for the first time

>> No.28024810

Sana Vshojo when?

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I will remember her for how badly I wanted to stick my dick between her cosmic caramel cannons.

>> No.28024850

>>28014361
>being a corporate vtuber means streaming regularly
what about the lazy oni whore?

>> No.28024853

>>28024810
Vshojo: Sorry we only want back healthy girls.

>> No.28024865

>>28024739
okay deadbeat

>> No.28024869

>>28023235
If by "most profitable country" you're talking about the U.S.

>> No.28024883

>>28024363
“Black”? Anon, it is clearly a tan. Look at the star marks; you may not know this, but women who go to tanning salons sometimes place a sticker on their skin to create a tattoo effect. She is clearly a gyaru, and she isn’t the first dark skinned/tanned Holomem.

>> No.28024895

>>28024850
she is good with her mouth, around the head

>> No.28024911

>>28024853
>Kson
>Healthy
Anon, I...

>> No.28024963

>>28024911
Kson isn't healthy? What's wrong with her?

>> No.28024997

>>28009985
A waste of a fucking spot. I can imagine the amount of better streamers that got ignored because that dumb fuck ina had to bring her friend using the nepotism card.

>> No.28025009

>>28024963
she's american

>> No.28025035

>>28025009
Kson looks healthy in stream though

>> No.28025083

>>28024963
She is vaccinated

>> No.28025098

>>28024997
When you're a Myth member, you get to demand things

>> No.28025135

>>28024997
>Ina brought her into hololive
Based

>> No.28025186

>>28025098
That doesn't take the truth away from what I said.

>> No.28025248

>>28009985
a bunch of deleted /vt/ threads

>> No.28025292

>>28024997
>better streamers

Like who? You can't say anyone already in another group.

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>>28009985
This dude

>> No.28025387

>>28010279
she still took the spot of a potentially good hire which sucks

>> No.28025408

>>28024869
This hasn't been true for a long time, fellow patriot

>> No.28025463

>>28024711
>he will become a sapling.
Anon, he's an IRyStocrats, he's just making a reference to Sana wanting to kiss Fauna's feet, in her debut tweets

>> No.28025505

>>28022403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQaWzSQYAo

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>>28020269
Tbh you shouldn't be alive. Or stay quiet at least

>> No.28025578

>>28024997
ina doesn't have that much power

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>>28025578
you have no idea

>> No.28025601

>>28009985
Unironically and unfortunately she will probably be remembered for having the most cursed initial year of any member of Hololive. Aki's early hiatus and recovery from surgery to fix her degenerative hip and 3views status through the entirety of 2019 was the 'gold' standard of what to avoid having happen to you in those initial 12 months.

Sana managed to stack:
>unpopular design in the eyes of wider audience
>filtering heavy australian accent
>off-kilter sense of humor
>Severest Cull that Susan has ever delivered
>Unwillingness to use her main strong point
>dog break
>break back
>irregular and streams that somehow yet felt excessive in length
>Unwillingness to add variety to her game stream choice (go back through her library and >95% of her game streams can be summarized as Celeste, Deltarune, Pokemon, Metroid, Kirby and Minecraft)

>> No.28025745

>>28009985
Back horts, dead dog, doesn’t stream, and astronomy. Not sure why they hired her, but I feel bad for all her simps.

>> No.28025821

>>28025292
Nana Asteria
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJwnGUjoniJA3It-P2snc-A

>> No.28025863

>>28024850
Ayame streamed regularly for years and built up a dedicated fanbase before checking out mentally, and those fans have stuck with her. She still does the 3d idolstuff without issue. Because of this, she's still successful despite being something of a ghost.

Sana, on the other hand, checked out mentally after a few months and therefore never built up a sizeable fanbase. Her back issues will also likely prevent her from doing 3d idolstuff in the future.

>> No.28025925

>>28025863
At this point, a big reason for Ayame still being in most viewers headspace is a large presence in hologra

>> No.28025996

>>28017005
bro i've heard the breathing machine

>> No.28026024

I wonder how much more successful Sana would have been if she drew her own avatar instead of being dealt that ugly thing she has to stream as.

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>> No.28026175
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>>28009985
Being my second crush. I like a lot of chuubas, but she's the only one where I've actually thought "I want to put a ring on her"

>> No.28026253

>>28025327
Imagine the peanutbutter and how it feels like

>> No.28026258

>>28025925
I would also imagine that her "dochi dochi" is one of the pillars that Hololive image is built on in the eyes of a modern fan

>> No.28026260

>>28009985
Dog hurts and back died.

>> No.28026290

>>28026091
chocolate milk yummy

>> No.28026294

>>28026175
Is everything THAT bad?

>> No.28026414

>>28010387
I know it's hard for you to grasp. But some people don't enjoy that shit.

>> No.28026494

>>28022283
What's wrong with Miko and Luna?

>> No.28026538

The only good EN original song

>> No.28026563

>>28012495
Mori, would care. She would be getting on the bad side of two companies. One of them important for what she loves.

>> No.28026615

>>28009985
being the best council member

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>>28009985
IRyS's mascots.
And that's about all that comes to mind.

>> No.28026742

>>28009985
kronii will now stream everyday and closer to her fans

>> No.28026827 [DELETED] 

>>28009985
the holo that proved Connor right

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>>28026827

>> No.28027100

>>28023351
based
you don't hold a tournament to go easy on retards who can't be bothered to make even a half-sensible set

>> No.28027234

>>28023351
>>28023488
>>28027100
Such is the tragedy of Mori.
When she tries, or at least looks like she's attempting to actually put in an effort, she'll still inevitably fuck it up.

>> No.28027401

>>28012235
>Imagine getting stuck in a job you can’t enjoy, watching everyone else do what they like plus shitty rules from company
You described baseline millennial experience in 2022

>> No.28027535

>>28022063
And Ina was a home run.
And Kobo was a grand slam.
You take risks.

>> No.28027600

Bread

>> No.28027616

>>28023351
That was based though.

>> No.28027705

>>28025463
Probably two time, he does watch and superchat Fauna a fair bit. Fauna did not even realize it until recently.
Hopefully he can replace RedJew as Irys' artist though.

>> No.28027714

>>28027600
and beeg

>> No.28027939

>>28026091
I filled a lot of buckets with this one

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>> No.28028123

>>28023590
finana don't look

>> No.28028611

Legacy? What Legacy? She didn't make anything at all, she just joined, barely streamed and kept taking time off, and now she's gone for good. She will be forgotten within a single year.

>> No.28028793

>>28009985
Only thing I'll remember her for is her spiral staircase in Minecraft.

>> No.28029785

>>28009985

She was hung enough to smash Uranus.

>> No.28030177

>>28009985
none

>> No.28031183

back hort and dog died

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>>28009985
only Ayame can slack and still get paid

>> No.28036272

>>28023585
Didn't realize lesbians were that christian. Based

>> No.28036290

>>28010017
Only in EN, because JP nepo hires will reflect on whoever nepo'd them, and so nepos are more carefully selected, and those that nepo'd owe their careers to whoever nepo'd them, and will work their ass off to not shame whoever recommended them.

EN has none of that shit, since they consider nepo to be just another form of 'referral' for jobs, and if they get in and don't like it, they have zero qualms about fucking off. And no one really holds the person who did the nepo to account in EN either.

>> No.28036386

>>28017005
>Calling something a larp without posting the picture and eating a ban
You're either a coward or a poser, and I respect neither.

>> No.28036401

>>28010488
The entire EN branch could evaporate tomorrow and I would not give a fuck because this hobby was started and is still carried by the HoloJPs.

>> No.28036431

>>28009985
Most OP Holocure character I guess, kek

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>>28028123

>> No.28036652

>>28012018
> Thought she would have graduated months ago, and was considering it.
> Fans made her want to stay and push through.
> Blatantly said she was unsatisfied with how this went, despite potential rrats that Cover would obviously want to avoid.
> Super stubborn about not using her back injury "as an excuse", which is why she was silent about it for months.
> Asked Cover to not mention her back thing in the PR statement for the same reason.
Very likely due to her back injury being debilitating.

>> No.28036711

>>28022029
archive reps jannies delete anything mouse related instantly.

>> No.28036839

>>28020221
>>28023485
>305 streams
How the fuck

>> No.28036862

JANNIES WORKING OVERTIME TO PROTECT INDUSTRY SECRETS. LMFAO YOU DON'T EVEN GET PAID VIRGINS

>> No.28037026

>>28036652
Do we know what exactly is the injury? I know she has trouble sitting upright for long, but what exactly happened to her?

>> No.28037025

>>28018082
She sang one of the best vocaloid version of Happy Synthesizer, and she had the potential (and a story) to be an idol.
The narrative of that potential being snuffed out too early had a HUGE impact on the fanbase, since this was before all the EN retards flooded in (especially once people found out that nijiniggers were behind a lot of it, giving a natural enemy to rally around).

Sana never wanted to be an idol, she just considered this as another job. She never had a story behind her, and you don't survive in this industry without a story at your back.

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>>28023590
fuck of Finana

>> No.28037261

>>28037026
something to do with discs probably.
she never said.

>> No.28037308

its the 80% taxation on your income thing.
mori mentioned it.
when you work for a Japanese company and are a western world citizen, you get the worst of worlds at the same time, taxation law-wise. you pay for both. they really need to find a lawyer specializing in japan+their home country taxation laws.

>> No.28037475

>>28012018
Something probably minor but that I've not seen being mentioned is that she's been unable to do some of the sorts of streams she planned on.
In her debut she talked about playing kusoge which never materialized, even though her streaming style seemed like it'd be a good match. It's likely that Cover's paranoia regarding ironclad permissions killed this, since as a genre it's even worse than regular indiess for being able to reliably contact the creator/rights holder.

>> No.28037571

>>28009985
First ever Holo Graduation announcement to not have a stickied thread.

>> No.28038294
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28038294

you know what´s coming next to the American markets after sana.. sana 2.0

>> No.28038493

>>28037026
something that keeps her from streaming as sana but not her other account

>> No.28038726

>>28037308
This is just a US thing. The US government rule the world and so see fit to claim tax from US citizens from anywhere in the world, even if they don't really live in the US or work there. There's *supposed* to be double taxation treaties between major countries to prevent this shit happening, but again, US govt like to swing around their massive dongs.

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