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Coco's month-long Graduation was a literal State Funeral. Treated as the greatest tragedy ever, massive events and collabs, endless tributes and artwork memorials, everyone making letters, speeches and eulogies on how she was the best thing to ever happen in their lives, everyone crying their fucking eyes out. The graduation of Coco was treated as literally and unironically treated as if she had a terminal disease, as if she was going to die- Kiryu Coco, the dragon we've formed so much experiences and memories with, is GONE, deceased. Heck this is where the "Martyr" and "Jesus" memes came from- she sacrificed herself to rid Hololive of the Zhangs.

Only to find out you can just wait one year and join another company. A notorious whorehouse, nonetheless.

Face it, graduations are meaningless. Don't cry for them. As an ex-Tatsu I cried last year, I cried last month again, and now I can't believe I cried for a fucking whore, I feel so retarded. Sana's will be the same.

>> No.28006615

>>28006459
>Comparing Coco graduation to a literal who called Sana that doesn't even stream at all.

>> No.28006667

A person being retarded and whorish in their post Holo career doesnt invalidate their career, and I see graduation as more of a celebration of the holo career and character more than the the roommate.

I had good memories with Coco and those will stay. I dont really give a crap about what Kson does.

>> No.28006732

>>28006459
it doesn't matter when the roommate was already successful on their own so it really had no impact on their career or anything. Kson literally had NOTHING to fear about graduating since her channel was always active and easily funneled people over and had the power to go wherever she wanted. Sana also will have nothing to fear because she is a successful artist who will likely continue to get work for gacha games and shit no matter what. Not every graduated vtuber got this kind of luxury.

>> No.28006761

You're going to seethe, I'm going to see that sexy outfit in action.

>> No.28006836

>>28006459
Did you ever consider that some people actually like and enjoy the kayfabe? And, like, mentally separate characters from actors?

>> No.28006940

>>28006615
I saw someone superchat saying this was worse than when Coco or Rushia left.

How fucking delusional

>> No.28006982

Some people like the character and don't care for the person behind them.
It's not rocket science.
You think every Coco fan blindly followed Kson? Nope.

>> No.28007029

>>28006940
Maybe it was worse because they weren't one to speak Japanese, and thus only consumed Coco and Rushia streams through clips, whereas Sana was someone whose streams they consumed normally because she's an english speaker?

>> No.28007161

>>28006459
>Coco's month-long Graduation was a literal State Funeral. Treated as the greatest tragedy ever, massive events and collabs, endless tributes and artwork memorials, everyone making letters, speeches and eulogies on how she was the best thing to ever happen in their lives, everyone crying their fucking eyes out. The graduation of Coco was treated as literally and unironically treated as if she had a terminal disease, as if she was going to die- Kiryu Coco, the dragon we've formed so much experiences and memories with, is GONE, deceased. Heck this is where the "Martyr" and "Jesus" memes came from- she sacrificed herself to rid Hololive of the Zhangs.
Shitpost aside, as far as this board is concerned this is mostly because all of you got into vtubers late (2019/2020) without much prior experience and are highly retarded.

>> No.28007205

>>28006459
>>27755341

>> No.28007211

>>28007029
I'd wager there are more hours of clip footage for Coco and Rushia than there are stream hours for Sana.

>> No.28007348

>>28006667
>>28006836
>>28006982
So Coco really IS deceased.

>>28007161
I AM retarded for wasting one years worth of my tears on a traitorous whore

>>28007205
I had to ask this again because of everyone dramafagging Sana's graduation. Don't fall for it. You'll be disappointed. AGAIN.

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>>28006459
>coco thread
>Only to find out you can just wait one year and join another company. A notorious whorehouse, nonetheless.
huh?????

>> No.28007584

>>28006459
Coco had a secondary account where everyone knew she would just carry on streaming. Sana is a professional artist who has already proven she can't handle streaming on top of her existing job. So she's probably gone for good. Honestly makes it a bit sadder for the people that really enjoyed her content. There is no fallback plan here.

>> No.28007721

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApK5Gi3iNbE
Remember this?
The biggest /vt/ sings project and one of the biggest board sings projects overall. This stuff still gives me chills, and I still get teary eyed sometimes remembering Kiseki Knot or Coco graduation stream. I don't regret making my submission for vt sings Judgement at all. Coco and Kson are not the same, no matter how similarly they behave. Ask every Holomem who Coco is and they'll tell you that she's a legendary dragon, someone who at some point inspired and/or helped almost everyone. I feel the same about her and this has nothing to do with Kson who is a retarded whore. If graduation is a funeral then so be it, just let all the good memories stay with the character and stop giving a fuck about the person inside instantly after it's over.

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28007844

"Graduation" has a nicer ring to it than "I quit", even though they basically mean the same thing. I wish all graduations were handled like Rushia's termination. No fanfare, no farewells, just like ripping off a band-aid.

>> No.28007970

>>28007500
Wait, the Magnet's back?

>> No.28008083

>>28007500
Is she still out there? It's weird how Pikamee doesn't acknowledge her existence.

>> No.28008159

>>28007721
touch grease

>> No.28008178

>>28006459
Never go down the roommate path, it only leads to loss of innocence and sorrow. Keep to the Vtuber identity.

>> No.28008211

But Coco really is gone. She's never coming back.

>> No.28008222

>>28007721
Based.

>> No.28008275

It's just hilarious how quickly holofans heel turn on former holos and consider them worse than trash. Lulu fans are still watching her just fine, Miori basically kept her entire fanbase, and there's plenty of other examples of graduated chuubas that are still doing well without causing an uproar.
But if you dare to leave Hololive, then your name gets dragged through the mud. People on this board unironically shit on Aloe still to this day despite not doing anything to deserve it, and now Coco and Rushia are treated as the spawn of satan. In two months time once Sana starts streaming on her old account again, people will be jeering at her the same way they do Kson now? Why are holofans the only ones that can't accept it when vtubers move on?

>> No.28008333

The post above contains misleading statements and cherrypicked cases for the sake of tribalfag bait.

>> No.28008370

>>28008333
He's right though

>> No.28008577

>>28008333
The point still stands. Why are holofans so vitriolic towards PLs once they leave the company, when other vtubers that leave other companies don't get nearly as much hate from their former fans?

>> No.28008790

>>28006459
I will not associate Kiryu Coco with some whore named kson. Kiryu Coco is Kiryu Coco and nobody else. Simple as.

>> No.28008886

>>28008577
Last year even as an indie Kson was still rather liked and respected. Last year we banned chinks and drowned anyone who dared shit on her with ZHANG. It's the Vshojo sellout/treason (selling out to the worst kinds of people) that really destroyed the value of the graduation and of Kson as anyone respectable. So much for the promises of returning to Hololive, YAGOO himself said she's allowed to return for cameos (where was she in Holofes?).

>> No.28008958

>>28006459
Coco's month long graduation was ridiculous

>> No.28009349

>>28008275
Case in point
>>28008886

>> No.28009415

>>28006459
With that mindset you shouldn't be a tatsunoko in the first place. You'd fit in more with those zhang cucks.

>> No.28009444

>>28006459
Don't you dare bring up this fredditdragomnwhore in the same sentence as a loving person as Sana. Fucking spit on this leech who got idolized in the biblical sense because she was western pigs first contact of a anime avatar using person saying "shit fuck dildo in my ass lol I overdose on heroine".

>> No.28009616

>>28008275
lulu used to get like 10k now she's 2-3k shitter like kson, box matters (even a shitty one like nijibox).

>> No.28009618 [DELETED] 

>>28008275
I realize you are just trying to spin some kind of Anti-Hololive Fan message here, and frankly you probably aren't even a Niji fan but a Vshojo shill. But I'm bored enough to bite.
>Coco
The majority of Coco's fans followed her after she left and had no problem with her until she proved herself to be a bold-faced liar and joined Vshojo after saying she wouldn't join another corp. She'd been a VERY successful indie for nearly a year. Once again, people don't like her because she LIED AND SOLD OUT.
>Rushia
Rushia is hated because people came to terms with her being a suicide-baiting menhera who was making her coworkers miserable. She was also, not once but, CONSISTENTLY leaking information to Japanese Keemstar in return for information about her crush. The fact that she was pushing GFE while either actively in, or actively seeking, a relationship with another person also makes her a horribly manipulative lying bitch of a person who was encouraging lonely men to form parasocial relationships with her purely for profit and not reciprocating whatsoever. Leaking intel? Check. Manipulating fans? Check. Making coworkers miserable? Check. Why would anyone who is a fan of any company like and support a talent who acted this way?
>Aloe
The only people I hear talk about Aloe outside of obvious Cover-antis writing smear campaigns are fans in her general who only want the best for her going forward in her career as an indie.
>Sana
People are mostly just apathetic to Sana's graduation. The writing has been on the wall for months because she refuses to fucking stream. Cover was exceedingly generous to give her nearly a year to get her act together and she just wouldn't. Hell, she was laughing through most of her Graduation announcement. Which you would know if you watched it. The only people hating are indies who are upset she wasted a slot as a nepotism hire because they auditioned and didn't get in. Frankly their feelings are justified.
>In two months time once Sana starts streaming on her old account again
Don't expect this to actually happen, she's proven she can't stream reliably while focusing on her artist career. Her other channel only has like 2 fucking Genshin videos from a month ago on it. Which you would know if you checked it.

>> No.28009732

>>28009616
Probably part of why kson joined vshojo. Brand counts for something, and that was basically the only company that would fit her demands of basically letting her do anything she wants.

>> No.28009756

>>28009618
>>Coco
>The majority of Coco's fans followed her after she left and had no problem with her until she proved herself to be a bold-faced liar and joined Vshojo after saying she wouldn't join another corp. She'd been a VERY successful indie for nearly a year. Once again, people don't like her because she LIED AND SOLD OUT.

Exactly. I mean look at how kson's sub count dropped ... oh wait it didn't
But look at how her CCV dropped ... oh wait it didn't

But look at her Gachis they left her ... oh wait they didn't.

... you need to face reality anon. No one outside of /vt/ and 5ch care.

>> No.28009759

>>28009618
I have checked it and I'll see you in two months when there are multiple threads about how N******** is a traitor and was never good. I appreciate the effort in your post though, thank you.

>> No.28009881

>>28009756
Fuck you, i was writing similar comment. But yeah, no one fucking cares, and Japs are kinda excited.

>> No.28009930

>>28009444
At least Coco actually cared about her fans and made her time at hololive memorable. Sana was barely there! How dare you think your literal who, who has sub nijiEN numbers, is comparable to someone who without which your oshii wouldn't even exist. Coco will always be revered. Sana will be swiftly forgotten

>> No.28009993

>>28007029
>Sana
>English speaker

>> No.28011450

>>28006459
For me Graduations means parting ways with company on good terms or its choice by Vtuber itself.

>> No.28011580

>>28011450
It usually is, or at least it's supposed to be, the very name for it are there to suggest that it's a closure of that part of their career and what comes after might lead to bigger things.

>> No.28012543

>>28009881
lol, well you're welcome.
On another note, it's kinda funny is how much of a bubble Japan is, when I saw the Japanese rrats. They literally have no idea of the whole western world streaming or content creation, and who the people involved in VShojo actually are.
At least I would have expected some to know Mowtendoo, since his meme videos were pretty close to the style that the NND audience liked.

>> No.28012704

>>28009732
they don't really have any brand power in japan and kson doesn't really have it in her to be popular with your typical burger twitch crowd, she's too much of a dork.

>> No.28012765

>>28009444
>she was western pigs first contact of a anime avatar using person saying "shit fuck dildo in my ass lol I overdose on heroine"
Hoes mad.

>> No.28012770

>>28012543
vshitshow are nobodies

>> No.28012984

>>28009618
I actually wonder if she's leaving because of the zhangs... well not directly so but simply being assocciated with hololive must be bad for her chink gatcha work and since she seems to care about it waaaay more than being a holomem it was a logical choice.

>> No.28013276

>>28012984
Ina is in the same situation and seems to be doing fine with her other work last I checked.

>> No.28013891

>>28013276
Ina doesn't acknowledge Coco existence, so she is based in the chang eyes

>> No.28014200

>>28013891
This is probably the reason neither Ina nor Sana ever played Holocure. Way too many Coco references in that game.

>> No.28014412

>>28006459
>Do Graduations even matter?
Of course they matter.
Graduations are the only way holowhores could possibly get 200k+ ccv.

>> No.28015983

>>28012704
She's a dork when it came to solo content, but edgy when it came to leading collabs.

>> No.28016240

>>28006459
Not being able to collab with other hologirls is tragic. Coco had great interactions with the JP group. And Sana seemed like a sweet girl who was very pleasant with the EN crew. Yes, it matters.

>> No.28016484

Ngl I always found the graduation culture so tiresome. It's all the more farcical when the person behind the avatar isn't actually fucking leaving content creation, they're just moving to a different account. Nothing was actually lost yet people react to it like a family member died.

>> No.28016870

>>28013276
Ina is also very successful as a holo while Sana stopped trying soon after her debut due to (relatively) low numbers so being on a zhang hate list is just unnecessary burden. Watch her do more sponsored chink shit on her roommate after leaving.

>> No.28017270

>>28012984
chink gatcha commissions pay more and are much more relaxing than dealing with manlets that get angry if you "fuck you teehee" them tbf

>> No.28018884

>>28006459

Do you often confuse a character somebody plays with the person playing the character?

Like do you think Robert Downey Jr is dead because Tony Stark Died in the movies?

>> No.28018949

>>28006940

If you liked Sana more than Coco or Rushia, it was for the person in question. Like I didn't care for Rushia and never watched her stuff, so her firing was a Tuesday at worst for me.

>> No.28019163

>>28006459
chill out, the Dragon really died. The more you separate the Coco era from what came after the more you should realize this. It was also an extra big deal as the first graduation of Hololive. It had to set the tone for future graduations being important by being the instantiation of the type

>> No.28019232

>>28018884
Except movies are scripted and predetermined. Vtubers are like Anime in Real Life.

>> No.28019236

>>28018884
NTA but actors tend to play a key role in making people fall in love with the characters, Robert Downey Jr is worshipped by marvel fans

>> No.28019278

>>28006459
>Only to find out you can just wait one year and join another company. A notorious whorehouse, nonetheless.
Coco != Kson

>> No.28019380

>>28008083
We still haven't figured what she got fired for, it could be all sort of Rushia-level stuff,

>> No.28019445

>>28006459
Bruh, you posted this already.

>>27755341

>> No.28019627

>>28006459
Nigger. They are STREAMERS on the INTERNET.

>> No.28019646

>>28008886
>where was she in Holofes?
It's clear then that she didn't want to be associated with Hololive anymore, not that they didn't want her to come back. Though with that said, I wouldn't be surprised if she signed a non compete clause for a year, and as soon as the year expired then *poof* new employer time.

>> No.28019683

>>28019380
she was found using drugs or some shit idk

>> No.28019684

>>28006459
Sounds like a you problem. Never cared about any of the graduations and I hope Kson poaches more talent because it is hilarious.

>> No.28020611

I feel vindicated because I used to watch Coco but I could never stand Kson from day 1. The Coco persona was way more entertaining, and she used to work harder on Asacoco and the like than she does now.

>> No.28020755

>>28019380

Not really. Rushia they terminated right away. No Graduation, no month-long of streaming good byes. Just GTFO.

>> No.28020958

>>28014200
>too many Coco references
Isn't there just... A single tail butt plug?

>> No.28021176

>>28020958
There's at least 3 different AsaCocos, anon.

>> No.28021302

All graduation really does is lock out the performer from using the character's image (and the subsequent cut of merch sales). If you're highly successful and popular like Coco and Rushia were, this could be a pretty heavy blow. If you're a relative nobody who's already notorious for never streaming like Sana, not so much.

>> No.28021660

>>28009444
Okay Chong.

>> No.28022061

>>28009756
what? Have you checked her CCV? She has half than fucking Luna in average

>> No.28022219

>>28007161
>muh i'm an oldfag
I'm an oldfag and it doesn't really fucking matter. There are more people now, but they are just as dumb.

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>>28020958
Plug, injection, and gas asacocos, plus dragonfire. 4/35 items are Coco references.

>> No.28022275

>>28021302
The merch isn't true. It only applies to merch that Cover made and funded. Merch funded out of the talents pocket belongs to the talent to a degree so if merch sales were/are going through the talent still recieves a cut. The talents are constantly signing contracts because they are not employed by Cover. If anything Cover nit allowing the sales to continue could see Cover getting sued for breaking contract.

>> No.28022287

i already miss sana

>> No.28022367

>>28018884
>vtubers are just like movie actors
retard
vtubers spend hours at a time being spontaneous. their personalities become the character's personality.

>> No.28022612 [DELETED] 

>>28007970
Just in case you don't know, she is Indiana Jones now and celebrated her first anniversary [/spoiler]as a white haired beauty and their pink jellyfish friend

>> No.28023110

>>28022219
The dumb people we had in 2017/2018 vtuber threads were autistic savants compared to what is considered dumb now.

>> No.28023290

>>28007970
>>28008083
She indie now and a few days ago celebrated her first anniversary Ebosi

>> No.28024100

>>28007348
>I AM retarded for wasting one years worth of my tears on a traitorous whore

lmao seethe cope and mald

>> No.28024894

>>28012543
DYRB

>> No.28025622

>>28022275
Cover owns the rights to the characters' names and likenesses, not the talent. Even if they were indie as that character before signing on, they sign away their rights when they are contracted to Cover. Sana will never legally be allowed to be Sana again, nor is she or anyone associated with Cover allowed to officially confirm or deny that she was ever Sana if she decides to reemerge as a new identity.

>> No.28032937

>>28006459
you and your boyfriends from reddit back then cried a ton surely, nobody was crying here newfriend

>> No.28035687

A graduation matters if the person make it clear they are never coming back.
Otherwise, no, not really. Its just one last thing to wring donations out of people.

>> No.28035776

>>28008275
It's because holobronies are npc glue sniffers. Idol fans care about the talents, not the corpo. Holobronies are retarded and only care about the corpo. So when all the talents leave they will have nothing except for their own diseased self where as if they actually supported the talents they would have someone to follow. That's why both kson and mikeneko survived. If Sana decided to do casual comfy streaming as an indie she'll also build her own fanbase.

>> No.28035830

>>28009616
Kson and Coco where super tied together, everyone knew who she was, on top of the fact that Kson opened up memberships around march, just a bit before graduation.
Lulu never made it obvious who she was, she'd probably still have her old viewership if people knew.

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>>28006459
Its cause it was a funeral, and Coco did die. You will never see her stream or colab again. All you have left of her is the memories she left you on her youtube channel.

Its honestly amazing she reincarnated and came back wanting to stream after that shitfest, and if you were an actual Tatsunoko, you'd be happy that your bitch came back in some capacity.

>> No.28043077

Where is Coco going?

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