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How do we save her?

>> No.27976957

>more excuses to not stream

>> No.27976974 [DELETED] 

>>27976803
Supply her with more genderfluids

>> No.27976997

hahahahahaha
I love Kronii....but also I hate Kronii...she knew Sana was graduating when she made her stupid schedule. She never intended to stream today

>> No.27977050

>>27976803
save her from what. she's happy that she has a good excuse not to stream

>> No.27977077

Can't, only herself can do that.
And only friends can help her.

Just be cool on her next streams or throw a nice twit.

>> No.27977082

>>27976803
Sorry but this is just a excuse not to stream.
I doubt she even cared about Sana.

>> No.27977088

>FUCK YEAH AN EXCUSE TO NOT STREAM

>> No.27977104

>My Sana just graduated. Canceling stream. Let's gooooooo!!!!!

>> No.27977110

the real question is what are the takos gonna do to ina for allowing an abomination into the company

>> No.27977118

Kronii will graduate then Mumei then Fauna then Bae. Council a shit.

>> No.27977146

>>27976957
>>27976997
Lol this but the average vtuber fan is too deranged and retarded to think otherwise

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>> No.27977174 [DELETED] 

we all knew Sana was gonna graduate before long.

You don't keep the darkie who never shows up for work employed.

>> No.27977185

I stopped caring about her when she stopped showing her boobs on stream 99% of the time.

>> No.27977190

Not like Sana had any big influence with Kronii, in fat Sana hardly was there for any of council

>> No.27977223

this is such a shock, clearly she should take the rest of the year off as well to properly recover

>> No.27977297

>>27976997
No streamer plans a schedule they don't plan to follow. It's just bad business.

Either she didn't know (most likely) or just knew and thought she could power through it.

>> No.27977323

>>27976803
Everyone in council 100% knew of this beforehand. Literally using this as an excuse to get a day off work, lol. She probably really regretted posting that packed schedule.

>> No.27977331

>>27976957
It's the council, what do you really expect at this stage? I don't understand what the fuck Cover were thinking when they hired these talentless, initiativeles hacks.

>> No.27977330

>>27976803
She's beyond salvation, OP. Just accept it and move on.

>> No.27977363

>>27976957
>Streams
>Gets flamed because it coincides with IRyS anniversary stream
>Doesn't stream
>"Fucking lazy whore"

Really fucking tired of you guys

>> No.27977398

qrd on why Sana is graduating?

>> No.27977415

>>27977363
go back to /infinity/

>> No.27977444

>>27976803
You don't, she's next.

>> No.27977464

>>27976803
Kronii happy autism noises.

>> No.27977493

Its over

>> No.27977534

>>27977190
She was her best friend on council.

>> No.27977555

>>27977363
>guerilla streams for only an hour during another member's anniversary stream
Getting real tired of clock simp copes.

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>>27977363
Me too brother

>> No.27977643

She should take the week off to recover!

>> No.27977654

>>27977398
No clue she's been streaming a lot lately and it seemed like an offcollab was on the table. If I had to guess her injuries to her back, general distaste for antis, the fact she doesn't really need the holobux/isn't ambitious like that and possibly management itself telling her to either shit or leave the toilet stall probably all were factors.

>> No.27977717

>>27977363
back to infinity cluck

>> No.27977730
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>>27976803
it's ok queen, you should take 2 years off to properly recover

>>27976957
>>27976997
>>27977050
>>27977082
>>27977088
>>27977104
>>27977323
>>27977331
>>27977444
incels seething

>> No.27977899

>>27977398
>streamer
>doesn't stream

>> No.27977908

It’s just an Unpacking stream. The game that made fucking Mori cry for the first time on stream ever? Kronii would have been worse.

>> No.27977975

She just logged into minecraft.
WE BACK TO OFFLINE KRONII BOYS!!!!!

>> No.27978058

looks like she's just going to play minecraft instead

>> No.27978080

>>27977104
based

>> No.27978113
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27978113

I like Kronii’s streams and I’m tired of pretending I don’t

>> No.27978158

When Coco graduated JP Mems were there for their fans...I guess that's not for everyone though.

>> No.27978252

>>27977415
>>27977555
>>27977717
>I have to be a Kronie, can't possibly just be a reasonable human being

>> No.27978268

>>27976957
Recruitment sure did a great job with EN2 hires.

>> No.27978316

>>27976803
Show her the door

>> No.27978320

>Cancels stream
>Plays minecraft off-stream instead
Like clockwork

>> No.27978336

>>27977398
She saw the George Floyd edit and started crying

>> No.27978366

>>27977323
It's Omega, he got free reign to do whatever he wanted.

>> No.27978372

She was on the road to getting better, this fucking graduation has ruined everything.

>> No.27978479

>PLAY GAME OFF-STREAM AGAIN
YOU LAZY FUCKING WHORE

>> No.27978489

>>27977730
The duality of man.

>> No.27978572

>>27976803
Stupid lazy cunt

>> No.27978588

>>27976803
thanks again sana

>> No.27978586

>>27977398
Said nigger (on stream)

>> No.27978599

>>27978336
post edit

>> No.27979001

>>27977398
she had back issues and had difficulty streaming for a while, probably just a combination of things that made sustaining it seem impossible so im guessing she just had to pick one or the other and went with what she thought she was most suited for

>> No.27979020

>Kronii cancelled her stream but is still playing MC
>Ame ignores every reference to Sana
>Kiara showed up just to fuck with frogs
They really don't care about this, do they

>> No.27979095

>>27976803
Ya don't, she's fucked now and will be for the rest of her time there

>> No.27979108

>>27976803
As if she didn’t know beforehand.

>> No.27979131

>>27979020
Why would they?

>> No.27979251

>>27979020
ame is lockstep with cover, basically cover can do no wrong

>> No.27979324

lol surprise surprise Kroni canceling a stream. Literally the one time she makes a full week schedule, is when she already knows that a member is going to graduate and can just use that as another excuse not to stream.

>> No.27979355

>>27977730
Ay, a discord mod, are you here to apply for the role of janitor

>> No.27979412

>>27977297
Pffft hahaha Gura scheduled Duolingo II at least twice before silently phasing out schedules altogether

>> No.27979476

>>27978320
>>27978479
>>27979020

I'm neutral on Holos that aren't my oshi but whenever there's something interesting happening I always think "imagine someone in vt reacts in this completely exaggerated way because of this, nah there's no way" and yet you fucking still manage to surprise me and it makes me want to see the good in the situation literally out of spite.

Did none of you idiots ever think that wow gee, minecraft is a relaxing game, maybe she wanted to go clear her mind? Let it out? Think of literally anything else? You want to see her being (more) miserable on stream? Are you such self-centered schizos that you always conjure a reason as to why The Thing She Does is Bad? Maybe I'm wasting my time with overreactionary fuckers that don't even watch her, whatever

>> No.27979485

>>27979020
Why would they? Sana never made any real connections with any of them. Even Kronii is just pretending so she doesn't have to stream. They all knew about this weeks ago. Probably that day Mumei didn't stream because something sad happened.

>> No.27979635

>>27976997
Judging by Ame's stream, they knew it was going to happen, but not when.

>> No.27979653

>>27979020
Why would they lmao. Sana went out of her way to avoid the others even before back problems. I'll never get over her taking a fucking month off for a dead dog meanwhile didnt Chloe's grandma die or some shit? And she was gone for like three days or something.

>> No.27979670

>>27979476
She doesn't have to play minecraft on the holoserver though, no? And she knows Ame is streaming. She's literally just trolling Kronies because she knows they like it

>> No.27979686

>>27979020
Sounds like something happened behind the scenes that they can't talk about to me

>> No.27979841

She's next.

>> No.27979948

>>27977323
I'm not entirely convinced they knew for sure. They probably knew that management had been talking with her, but I don't think they had confirmation she was graduating. That meeting with management that Sana told Kronii about on last nights stream was followed by Mumei doing a guerilla unarchived karaoke called "im in my feels" so I wouldn't be TOO surprised if they only heard about it then.

>> No.27979969

>>27977654
>she's been streaming a lot lately
No, she's just been streaming sporadically. "A lot" only in comparison to before which was no streams.

>> No.27979975
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27979975

>My dreams of an eventual Dota 2/Hololive sponsorship arcana sets ruined
>No Sana as Enigma
Go to your next incarnation.

>> No.27979976

>Pretty much all of Holo EN ends up meeting for offcollabs

>Sana is literally the only member who was never part of it

>They all shit talked Sana being a lazy bitch who doesn't stream

>Ina realized how mean EN was and convinced Sana to leave because nobody likes her even in Holo

>> No.27979987

>>27978158
there all unneciserialy sencitive not like your never going to see them again or talk to em but they view this as not a job but a family which is where thay go wrong it is a job cover is just like any other capitalist business don't treat it as something it's not.

>> No.27980012

>>27976957
couldn't be Ayame

>> No.27980014

>>27979020
JP Holos have said before they can't adress these types of situations during streams, as part of their contract, unless they are streaming with the talent in question.
Why is everyone so butthurt because they are following the rules?

>> No.27980081

>>27976803
Streaming over IRyS's 1 year anniversary was ok though.

>> No.27980130

>>27979020
It's called "not bringing up unpleasant events and instead providing a means of escapism for those emotionally affected".

Or should every JP Holo have gone on stream to talk about Shinzo Abe's assassination?

>> No.27980251

>>27980130
Abe was part of Cover Corp?

>> No.27980322

>>27977654
The fact she's the only council/myth without an offcolab appearance should have been the writing on the wall.
IRYS doesn't count because she's actually been doing idol shit in tokyo despite not having a 3D model.

>> No.27980371

>>27979976
based council

>> No.27980441
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>>27980251
Why else do you think he graduated? The stress was too much.

>> No.27980470

She's on Meinkraft right now. On Amelia's stream.

>> No.27980480

>>27980251
He was my oshi you heartless monster you don't get to pretend he got terminated

>> No.27980530

>>27979020
She was a cunt behind the scenes and everyone is just relieved they don't have to deal with her anymore.

>> No.27980533

>>27976803
*joins Ame minecraft* RUMAO
They really hates you kronnies

>> No.27980544

>>27980322
Hasn't IRyS had an off collab with Cali in the past?

>> No.27980546
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>>27976803
council moment

>> No.27980561

>>27976803
She's next btw, and soon.

>> No.27980655

>>27976803
Lol. Lmoa. Just fucking drop the boring cunt already. Council was a mistake.

>> No.27980656

Rrat: Dog didn't die, omegatroon molested her, that's why she took a month off.

rrat: he came back for more but she is transphobic so she told omegatroon she didn't want to fuck them.

Rrat: this is why she has to graduate

>> No.27980692

>>27980544
Yeah.

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>>27979975
If there is a future, this will be useful.

>> No.27980765

>>27980655
Yes.

>> No.27980813

>>27976803
Time and Space should always coexist… without Space… theirs no time… WHY WOULD SPACE LEAVE US IN OUR DARKEST OF TIMES!

>> No.27980831

>>27979020
They knew about this for awhile

>> No.27980834

>>27976803
your oshi group make to much drama. xaxaxxaxaxa

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>>27980251
Oh no, they aren't going to get permissions for metal gear thanks to you guys.

>> No.27980843

>>27978158
Western women have a different mindset that mostly revolves around being a pretty cunt when they're young and a seething karen when they're older.

>> No.27980858

>>27976803
LOL. It's like Mori's tweet when Rushia got fired. Only Western women pull this juvenile shit.

>> No.27980884

>>27980544
she has had many on stream and off stream, IRyS is Mori's forced drinking partner.

>> No.27980897

>>27980840
kojima does it again

>> No.27980905

>>27979976
that's too mundane to be a good rrat, try this;
sana refused to move to America with Bae and cover fired her because of it.

>> No.27980950

>>27980843
So just being a seething cunt all the time?

>> No.27980962

>>27980470
Gone.

>> No.27980980

>>27980561
She and Kiara, hopefully.

>> No.27980985

>>27980840
>"That vtuber, Yagoo banned on the HoloEN channel, was not my vtuber....but the vtuber...of a clone"
>"Of Sara from PRISM

>> No.27981041

>>27980813
Council lore is so shit it seems like a parody of cringe vtuber lore.

>> No.27981063

>>27980950
When they're young they act like they're dumb to get out of responsibility and "men" enable them. When they're middle aged all the "men" who enabled them are either married or killed themselves and they can no longer get away with anything, so they shift from playful cuntiness to "LEMME SPEAK TO THE MANAGER RIGHT NOW" because they're mad the world stopped caring about them.

>> No.27981075

>>27980655
No council wasn't the mistake the people they picked for council was

>> No.27981089

>>27980884
It sounds horrible. Mori basically drinks until she blacks out most nights. She did that at Gigguk's wedding.(which means she made a stop in the UK)

>> No.27981121

>>27976803
That's how EN works
Just don't watch council/myth

>> No.27981130

>>27981075
yes.

>> No.27981159

>>27980561
kronii for last to jump ship so she can do an "at the end of time" bit before she retires as well

>> No.27981215

>>27976803
i love all the hate speech. anon you are the best

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>>27981041
>>27980813
Even time may fail in the face of gravity.

>> No.27981321

>>27981243
>Sana thread
>eNigma from dota 2
Lol

>> No.27981400

>Isolated Coco till she quit
>Fired Rushia for breaking NDA
>Got rid of Sana for not being dedicated enough to holo
NOBODY IS SAFE.
Not my oshi, not your oshi.

>> No.27981454

>>27979976
anyone with working and healthy brain will hate their coworker who never show up but still get paid

>> No.27981531

>>27981321
>space is black
Were you born yesterday?

>> No.27981569

>>27981400
except for Coco case, that's how corporation works. Get a job, you fucking NEET

>> No.27981691

>>27979975
>We'll miss out on Phoenix Kiara
>We'll miss out on Necrophos Mori
>We'll miss out on Slark Gura
>We'll miss out on Tidehunter Ina
>We'll miss out on Enchantress Fauna
>We'll miss out on Chaos Knight Bae
>We'll miss out on Faceless Kronii
>We'll miss out on Beastmaster Mumei
couldn't think of anything for Ame sorry

WHY EVEN FUCKING LIVE

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>>27979976
>Implying Ina wouldn't be even more savage on it because she actually makes the V-Tuber + Illustrator double life work

>> No.27981784

>>27977398
unironically cuz she doesnt stream enough

>> No.27981926

>>27981691 (me)
>Also Dark Willow IRyS

>> No.27981973

>>27977398
Can’t juggle two jobs at once because back hurts

>> No.27981987

>>27981691
>Pugna Rushia
>Dragon Knight Coco
>PotM Luna
>Kunkka Marine
>Sven Noel
>Drow Ranger Flare

>> No.27982014

Fuck you Kronii. I hope you're next.

>> No.27982034

>>27981531
No, but I, like everyone else, does not follow Sana at all.

>> No.27982051

>>27977398
Official statement:
>After discussions about the direction of her activities, Sana requested to graduate
Sana's video
>I really tried, I wanted to stay, I wanted to keep growing
The only logical conclusion is that she's pregnant with my child.

>> No.27982060

And now Gura wont stream for the rest of the week because her close, personal, best friend Sana is graduating and the news is too heavy.

>> No.27982112

>>27976803
Were they even that close this just seems like an excuse even ina streamed today and her and sana were childhood friends.

>> No.27982140

>>27981715
To be fair, she's a literal NEET who had to re-write her own history to make it sound like mama-nis wants her to stay in her house
I know asians, and i know rich asian children, and they STILL got kicked out (While still literally leeching from their children)

>> No.27982205

>>27981075
The themes chosen and lore written were pretentious and cringe. The designs are hit or miss. They got more things wrong than right overall, not just the casting.

>> No.27982361

>>27977730
Oh look a r*ddit whiteknight.

>> No.27982386

>>27982051
kek she got fired

>> No.27982407

>>27977398
Most reasonable speculation is that she can't juggle roommate art work with streaming and a back injury

>> No.27982420

>>27981691
Smol Ame piloting normal Ame as Alchemist (AlchAMEst)

>> No.27982466

>>27981715
Yea but Ina's entire art style is built for speed, she can actually juggle both things, and even then she's taken a fuckton of breaks this year.

>> No.27982484

>>27982112
they weren't even that close yeah

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>>27982034
You don't follow Dota2 either apparently.

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27982549

Kronii enjoyed her company

>> No.27982559

>>27980980
Kiara isn't going anywhere eggchama.

>> No.27982591

>>27982506
I don't understand what you're implying.

>> No.27982598

Oh, look, another girl betrayed by Cover CORPORATION. I am not surprised.

>> No.27982600

>>27981715
trying to imply that ina is as good as namie

>> No.27982683

>>27982559
Don't worry, I'll make sure the austrian whore is the next one.

>> No.27982688

>>27982591
Think another anon assumed calling DotA 2's Enigma (eNigma) was a recial thing like nig, but it's the name of a DotA 2 pro team

>> No.27982700

>>27976803
only ina's big fat korean ass can save kronii, we all know this

>> No.27982701

>>27982591
Christ you literally were a fetus yesterday, surprised you can shitpost this early.

>> No.27982704

>>27982598
Ameritranny stfu

>> No.27982708

has kronii ever even spoken to sana lmao

>> No.27982828

>>27982683
>austrian whore
i used to think it was anti shit to call her that, but her story about being lost while on her way to meet a man way out in the village via scooter.....really made me question if she really did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNLeuCVR2GU

>> No.27982843

>>27982683
Oh watch out, he's gonna crack!

>> No.27982866

>>27977398
Prioritizes her chink overlords over Holo, would rather retweet gachashit on her rm account all day instead

>> No.27982878

>>27982386
That's what I'm thinking too she was new and she fucked off to collect a paycheck and never streamed. Cover finally put they're foot down and fired her this would make sense as to why kronii also loaded her schedule up with streams as well.

>> No.27982941

>>27981987
Yesssss

>>27982420
Holy fuck you're a genius, literally the Watson Concoction

>> No.27982969

>>27979976
>get the opportunity of a lifetime
>throw a tantrum because your numbers are low because something something racism
>flake on everyone because you'd rather be a big shot gacha artist than second fiddle member of EN
>get rightly shit on until you finally leave to everyones relief

>> No.27982985

we can't and we shouldn't

>> No.27982996

>>27977398
Cover forced her to because she wasn't streaming enough, probably

>> No.27983072

>>27982866
>Sana is graduating because Kson's success is unacceptable to the Chinese, so she was given an ultimatum she's a bug: "Get out or get blacklisted"

I belieb it.

>> No.27983093

>>27982466
My guess is she told Sana how she was able to juggle both no problem and so Sana thought she could too.

>> No.27983107

>>27982969
Damn. Wonder who we would've gotten instead if Ina didn't get Sana in.

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>>27982688
The dota team is a double entendre. But do I also have to explain to you zygotes about the joke that space is black?

>> No.27983144

>>27977654
Didn't Sana literally appear on someones off-collab recently, shortly before Bae did? Or am I confused?

>> No.27983148

>>27982683
absolutely boiling and SCRAMBLED

>> No.27983181

>>27982843
I'm fine bro, I just don't like prostitutes.

>> No.27983216

>>27976803
>implying shes not trying to career suicide

>> No.27983356

Is Sana moving to Nijisanji or to Vshojo?

>> No.27983375

>>27982140
>asian boomers worse than white boomers
I have difficult belieb it.

>> No.27983456

>Some 2view tried her hardest for council auditions
>Probably gave up hope after not getting in
>The nepotism hire didn't even last a year.
Some poor 2view gave up on vtubing forever cause of Sana.
>>27983181
Always love your mother anon, you only get one.

>> No.27983533

>>27976803
I can fix her…

>> No.27983543

>>27977398
She has a perpetual incoming stream of dogs that all perpetually keep dying after she's had them for a month, and so she's taking an advance payment on all of the breaks she'd have to take all at once.

>> No.27983598

>>27982969
The problem is that youtube culled her sub growth the hardest.

>> No.27983707

>>27983456
Let this be a lesson to EN nepotism never again over talent

>> No.27983724

>>27976803
Hire Sana.

>> No.27983738

>>27983375
Simply put, you don't hear a lot of belt whippings after the boomers started having kids. Asian boomers have canes.

>> No.27983748

>>27982205
ok the premise of EN Gen2 wasn't a mistake

>> No.27983806

>>27976803
I love Kronii now!

>> No.27983808

>>27983456
Pippa didn't get into hHlolive because of Sana. Wtf, I love Sana now!

>> No.27983830

>>27977297
>No streamer plans a schedule they don't plan to follow. It's just bad business.
Their business is being cute. Nothing else matters. Hololive girls don't even have to stream regularly.

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>>27976803
>Just when Kronii announced one her most packed schedules ever
I'm so sorry Kronies...

>> No.27983897

yea so she def got fired right bc that announcement and her tone on her stream dont really add up...Ina deserves correction for allowing this abomination to taint the soil

>> No.27983923

>>27977398
I can promise it's not just one thing but combination of issues.
1. Her back injury in particular limits her ability to stream long hours.
2. I bet management is on her case about her numbers and given her ability to stream is hamstrung due to health issues, there isn't really a path forward to increase viewership for her.
3. I wonder if she has visa/passport/travel issues and her inability to travel internationally would also seriously hamstring her opportunities. Would explain why she's not at any off-collabs, although the simpler reason is that she declined to join, knowing she was going to quit soon.
4. Anti bullshit probably getting to her. Just look at this thread holy shit.

>> No.27983960
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>>27981075
Everything about council was a mistake, but the lore was the worst one of all.
I'm going to use Nijis latest as an example, a person that wants to be an ojou sama is much easier to keep through repeated streams, literal gods is not.

Keep lore simple.

>> No.27983978

>>27983873
she probably did that because cover told her you next lazy ass hoe

>> No.27983987

>>27983598
The problem was she took like a month off because her dog died so she didn't have a chance to recoup on Susan culling them all.

>> No.27984042

>>27983923
>4. Anti bullshit probably getting to her. Just look at this thread holy shit.
She wasn't relevant enough to get dedicated antis, she was just a magnet for shitposters.

>> No.27984078

save from what? We don't know her. She don't tell us what's her problem... For all i care she can very well making this shit up for pitty coin and lazyness. We don't know how she is in IRL.

>> No.27984134

>>27983960
yea the lore was the issue not hiring a bunch of normie western broads that shit the bed

>> No.27984152

>>27983923
"Antis" like here is just because she never streamed. Had she kept a normal schedule she'd have a normal amount.

>> No.27984172

>>27977398
she got pregnant, the pill i bought was too weak or my seed was too strong.

>> No.27984241

Shes next. She hates vtubing and her model

>> No.27984266

>>27983738
Slav's belt their kids too bro as well as Polynesians, in fact i would be willing to bet no asian kid has ever copped a floggen harder than a polynesian they flog other peoples kids. i know cause it has happened to me

>> No.27984302

>>27984134
Yes the lore was the problem, keeping up such ridiculous kayfabe is impossible.
Baelz didn't fit her personal at all, she's to quiet, Mumei completely dropped it in favor of "WACKY CREEPY"
Fauna kinda fits.

>> No.27984359

>>27984134
The lore didn't help, and wasting part of their first collab on introducing Omega was also bad.

>> No.27984383

>>27983897
Implying that myth wasn't a mistake too

>> No.27984391

>>27983960
>Keep lore simple.
Keep lore relatable. Mori and Gura were able to relate with being a grimreaper's apprentice God I miss Calli-sensei so much it's unreal and a little shark from Atlantis.
The issue is that nobody can relate with being "space" or "time."

>> No.27984463

>>27982828
What do you mean? You no longer think she's a whore?

>> No.27984490

>>27984241
No way she's next. Kronii isn't the kind of person able to make a decision that will radically change her life off the drop of a hat.
Mori is the only girl looking tenuous at the moment.

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>>27979987

>> No.27984656

>>27984241
I can believe this

>> No.27984677

>>27983960
thats why later i said the premise for EN Gen 2 wasn't a mistake

>> No.27984713

>>27977363
Here's a thought, clockfag.
How about she FUCKING STREAMS WHEN THERE ISNT AN ANNIVERSARY
Holy fuck, it's not hard

>> No.27984740

>>27984302
Fauna does not fit at all. Why would mother nature be a vegan? that's cannibalism.

>> No.27984856

>>27984134
They were trying to hit niches but didn't think about those niches would apply to the actual streams.
>Fauna- ASMR/pretends to speak French
>Kronk- voice acting/speaks Korean
>Sana- professional art/speaks Japanese
>Baelz- ??? I guess she has the most experience being a vtuber beforehand/can speak a lot of languages
>Mumei- cute girl/singer/furry audience
They all have something to bring to the table but then almost never actually have a chance to exercise these talents due to bad management and retarded lore pushing them in a particular direction.

HoloEN is also obviously losing ground to other companies, not just nijiEN but even companies like phase connect are inclining slowly while Gura draws a smaller audience than she used to and has plateaued subwise. HoloEN filled a niche for EN vtubers from hololive when people were hungry for it in 2020 and there was big hype for EN2 but then they mismanaged all of it.

Since the economy globally is going into recession one wonders how the shitty management for niji/holo/vshitshow/other companies will drag them down. We'll probably see more graduations and scaling back and a return to smaller audiences driven by meme variety content and autistic indies as the normalfags fight each other for cans of beans in the ruins of new york.

>> No.27984935

You guys should just prepare yourselves.

>> No.27984986

>>27984740
Fauna is animals flora is plants, animals eat plants

>> No.27985006

>>27976803
Were council even close enough for this reaction? I feel like they rarely collabed with sana. Ever. Fake whores.

>> No.27985129

>>27983923
3. Is near impossible to happen.

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All the negativity here is bumming me out. I like Kronii. She's my favorite in counsel aside from Fauna who was a bit surprisingly good after seeing more of her content.
Why do you guys need to mind fuck me with these things? If we lose another there will be a full environmental collapse. Maybe vtubers have jumped the shark...

>> No.27985161

>>27984490
>Mori is the only girl looking tenuous at the moment.
No way. Mori won't go, certainly not willingly anyways, because her personal success is tied too closely to her character. You can say whatever you like about her, she's never expressed anything but gratitude to Hololive for her success. Further, it's unlikely she's gonna yab enough to get fired, especially if her lean and cuckbeat controversies didn't do it, I doubt anything will.

>> No.27985212

>>27985006
How do you expect them to collab when she's never around.
>>27984856
You have a point, the vtuber playground is much bigger now, if people don't like what you're doing they have choices now.

>> No.27985278

>>27984302
Mumei was banned from talking about history or real world stuff from day one, she had nothing left to worth with. bitch couldn't even talk about potatoes.

>> No.27985289

>>27985134
>I like Kronii
Unironically kys

>> No.27985293

>>27984740
Lmao. Nice post. Yeah fauna should eat water and sunlight only.

>> No.27985311

>>27984856
Cover fucked up, Gen 2 should have debut no later than April and IRyS should have been debut in January. They left it too long and the initial hype of myth had already died

>> No.27985361

>>27984302
Baelz was meant to be chaos, but she's as innofensive as Ookami Mio, although nowhere as cute

>> No.27985434

>>27985129
>3. Is near impossible to happen.
I dunno, where I live just having the same name as someone who is on a no-fly list means you can't fly either and there's tons of other reasons you can end up on that list too. It's way more common than you think, especially in authoritarian aussieland.

>> No.27985450

One of my dissapointments with Kronii is that even though that she is a supposed pokeautist and has a perfect time space theme to go along with Sana is that she gave up on her Pokemon DP playthrough quickly.

Meanwhile on the JP side you have kino dual playthroughs like Okayu vs Subaru, Botan vs Lamy and Marine vs Kanata, in the case of Marine Kanata they even had a cool gimmick like Yugioh Battle City where the winner of a battle takes a pokemon of their choice from the loser.

Anyway half assing things is basically the norm for council like the latest offcollabs where they dissapear a week while only having one scuffed stream.

>> No.27985464

>>27985361
She's a homostar cumrag. That's not inoffensive

>> No.27985472

>>27985361
Yea that's what I said, she's to demure and quiet to be chaos.

>> No.27985512

>>27985289
Rude, but this oddly cheered me up.

>> No.27985594

>>27985361
way better mating press though. I could not disrespect Mio mama in bed the way i would Bae.

>> No.27985609

>>27985311
There was still hype though, just not the same scale. But then it was after EN2 debuted that management shat their pants across the board and shit like myth telling council it's cool not to stream leading to 4/5 of them streaming like once a week for a while.

>> No.27985727

>>27980012
Yeah. No Ayame numbers. No complaints from me!
>>27980251
Not a chance! If anything he was an anti! He wants you to go outside, have sex, and start a loving family. Not stay inside and simp for 2d women.

>> No.27985728

>>27985293
I hate vegans and therefore agree.

>> No.27985802

Vegans have the smelliest poops on the planet.

>> No.27985808

>>27984856
>Since the economy globally is going into recession one wonders how the shitty management for niji/holo/vshitshow/other companies will drag them down. We'll probably see more graduations and scaling back and a return to smaller audiences driven by meme variety content and autistic indies as the normalfags fight each other for cans of beans in the ruins of new york.
I doubt it, simply because Hololive doesn't make a profit off the thousands of peons just watching the stream, it makes money off whales. These guys are generally in high paying, male-exclusive fields and vtubers are their only interactions with women that aren't in HR. They're not worried about their jobs.
If anything, and with the obvious, glaring exception, NijiEN is more vulnerable because it's gone all in on the "dude you're just watching these streamers for fun there's no real emotional connection here" angle and driven off the kind of whales that can keep you afloat.

>> No.27985870

>>27985450
Kronii doesn't want to stream the same games everyone else is streaming. She's not like the other girls.

>> No.27985943

>>27985434
Bro our government and New Zealand are run bye dictators there is no democracy in this country anymore

>> No.27985982

>>27985808
He says while Vox came in top 3 for the month of June, beating out 4 out of 5 Holo 3D's.
Even Pomu made out fine.

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>>27977398
illustrators in general have fucked up health issues, knowing that sana is taking on other jobs while doing hololive is just taking additional toll on her.

>> No.27986157

>>27976803
>So this about Sana's Graduation

>> No.27986243

>>27985982
>with the obvious, glaring exception

>> No.27986274

>>27985870
>She's not like the other girls.
In fact, she doesn't even think she's a girl at all

>> No.27986379

>>27982969
>>throw a tantrum because your numbers are low because something something racism

Please tell me she didn't actually do this

>> No.27986439

>>27986379
Yeah she straight up strangled her own dog in a fit of rage and tried to pin the blame on racist Aussies.

>> No.27986499

>>27985609
there was still hype but it wasn't the same as it was in early 2021 IRyS in January would have probably cracked 500k before debut and had 1mil bye the time council debut. Council would have cleaned up in April and nijiEN would have never got off the ground Cover would have had the entire EN market (on youtube) by the balls

>> No.27986508

>>27985870
honestly the Sonic Adventure streams were the best she's done (outside of snot collabs) because she was actually having fun

>> No.27986511

>>27986379
She's exaggerating, but she's not wrong that there's racism against her because she's part Japanese.
There's obviously a racism issue at Hololive, not by the company itself but the fandom which covers a lot of interner racists.

>> No.27986546

Kronii, are you here? Kronii LOVE!
But stop being a schizo, pls.

>> No.27986591

>>27983598
She has a mush mouth and voice is pretty much 80% of the job. Her numbers were going to be fucked no matter what.

>> No.27986688

>>27983923
>Her back injury in particular limits her ability to stream long hours.
>did more than 2 12 hour streams after said back injury breaks

>> No.27986791

>>27986688
which one's?

>> No.27986997

>>27986791
a bunch of pokemon and animal crossing streams. not exactly 12h+ but way above average at 10 hours. i really doubt that was what was stopping her from streaming long hours considering how many of those 9+hours streams she did.

>> No.27987010

>>27986688
>did more than 2 12 hour streams after said back injury breaks
And weren't those followed by ~2 week long breaks?

>> No.27987094

>>27983830
>Hololive girls don't even have to stream regularly
Sana was fired for not streaming regularly

>> No.27987243

>>27982420
Whoaa dude, you're amazing

>> No.27987348

>>27986070
Why?

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>>27976803
i mean this isnt her first rodeo. she shouldnt be sad, sana lived with no regrets and was a good person. if she decides to be reborn then all of her fans will be there for her regardless of how anyone feels. i know women cry easily but theres no reason to be so sad.

>> No.27987627

>>27976803
on menses?

>> No.27987776

>>27978113
I like Kronii's voice and tits

>> No.27987844

>>27977110
nothing, I doubt any takos actually watched sana

>> No.27988063

Inject her with a small dose of sincerity, it will either kill her, or make her a good vtuber

>> No.27988224

>>27987094
That's your assumption anon. Clearly she couldn't juggle her actual art work with her hololive one and she chose to stick wit her actual art work.

>> No.27988706

>>27979412
bruh, she's autistic, and is the biggest vtuber in hololive, she literally just bumbles about and they let her cuz she's gotten them some decent clout.

>> No.27988797

>>27987348
>Horrendous work days/weeks/months(16 hour+)
>Hunched over a tablet drawing
>Little to no sunlight
>Barely any sleep
Do you really think its a coincidence that so many high profile artists died young?

>> No.27988976
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As if back pain can stop someone who genuinely wants to entertain people and use their wealth to make grandiose art.

>> No.27989494

>>27977415
Shut up Gabe

>> No.27989739

>>27988797
>Poor diet
>No sleep(number 1 cause of premature death)
>Sometimes a vice(smoking).
Being an artist is just passive suicide.

>> No.27989868

>>27976803
COPE was cursed when Omega started doing his thing. Just cut the cancer that is Sana and Kronii out before it spreads.

>> No.27990270

>>27977908
It made Mori cry because it reminded her of things in her personal life. So unless Kronii has the same experiences I doubt it would be an issue.

>> No.27990368

>>27976997
God, fuck off you entitled piece of shit.

You people are the reason why we can't have nice things.

>> No.27990842

>>27976803
Did she hang out with her troon friends in LA? Wondering if they got under her skin and it's killed her mood since getting back. She was high as a kite in that space the other day, too, and that stream yesterday was literally nothing.

>> No.27990927

>>27990368
How bout people stop treating mental illness as a superpower like Kronii does? Stop watching her.

>> No.27990985

>>27976803
I live in Canada but after that I got nothing

>> No.27991027

I think that Kronii was Sana's only real friend. Everyone else is carrying on like it's nothing. Ina, Ame, Mumei... nobody gives a shit about Sana lol

>> No.27991081

>>27988976
Jerma is a natural born entertainer, though. The man was born to make people laugh. I don't think he could do anything else.

>> No.27991390

>>27976803
*Them
Use the right pronouns next time ;)

>> No.27991602

>>27976997
Some knew, others didn't. If Kronii did know then we can probably pinpoint the time, either she went on hiatus or was really a downer on a stream and ended it short.

>> No.27991645
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>lots of Asian second gens
>lots of Canadian girls
>accepting of all genders, orientations and brain types
>healthy low pressure environment
Come home to NijiEN, Kronii.

>> No.27991850

>>27977297
>"just knew and thought she could power through it."
I vote for this one, Kronii is very dumb and very stubborn.

>> No.27991960

>>27991602
Mumei and Ame both said they've known for awhile. It's just like Coco's graduation where people knew a long time in advance. It was just a matter of scheduling it on a day where there wasn't any birthdays or big events.

>> No.27992402

Don't believe her lies

>> No.27992556

>>27976997
I knew that my little sister was going to die somewhere in April. When it happened, I still took time off from work.

>> No.27992706

>>27992556
Sana didn't die anon. She's graduating. She's going to live a very happy fullfilling life and you can easily figure out how to continue to follow her. And for Kronii she can easily stay in touch with Sana if they are even real friends (they probably aren't). It's nothing like your sister. Sorry for your loss

>> No.27992978

So Petra's killer is Chaika but Aloupeepified

>> No.27993120

>>27984713
No I dont think I will
*rapes you*

>> No.27993205

>>27993120
Go back to minecraft, kronii

>> No.27993237

>Take care of yourselves
Why are they so dramatic? She's leaving because she doesn't like the vtuber routine and being the lowest member.

>> No.27993610

>>27977398
They were rehearsing for a cowboy skit and she accidentally fired a loaded gun at an assistant

>> No.27994111

>>27991645
Her and Finana would get along just fine I bet

>> No.27994982

The most probably thing is that Kroni knew about the graduation but didn't know when it would be announced.

>> No.27995327

>>27992706
My point is that you know it's coming, you are mentally prepared for it, and then it happens, and you lose your composure. Yes, different situations here, but my point is that seeing it coming, doesn't take away from it happening.

>> No.27997240

>>27986511
Doesn't seem to bother Flare all the much and she has it worse on all angles. Black, half-elf, in a country that is known to hate blacks.

Either Sana is oversensitive or this is just another layer of bullshit. Probably both.

>> No.27997421

>>27997240
>elf
>bad

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>>27997421
>knife-ear lover

I miss the days when being seen in public with a knife-ear was public indecency punishable by prison.

>> No.27998531

>>27982969
Knowing for a fact this isn't true makes shitposting like this really interesting. I wonder what you hope to get out of making shit up, just Yous? Baiting Sanallites? It makes me wonder if people who don't watch Sana will just take your word for it, which shines a light on how easy it is to spread misinformation. Pretty scary, actually. People need education early on about not believing everything you read online, or at least how to research first.

>> No.27998679

>>27991390
nobody gives a shit

>> No.27998877

>>27977398
i blame her nigger skin

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>>27976803
>Kronii has a natural response and is the bad guy
>Ame goes "Ehh whatever I don't care I'm gonna stream" and is the good guy
Hmmm teamates work in mysterious ways I see.

>> No.27999166

>>27976803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQEkn6VIiJI

>> No.27999415

>>27980530
>source = my ass

>> No.27999508

>>27981691
weak, i play alot of dota but mtx/lootpasses are fucking trash

>> No.27999636

>>27998886
Ame's response is the natural one. Imagine defending a mentally ill person's response as the natural one.

>> No.27999715

>>27977908
>the first time on stream ever
Wow you clearly were not around for the end of a life arc

>> No.27999848

>>27979476
The chances are also high that you're talking to literal 15-17 year olds, or maybe even younger. Just something to consider before getting emotional.

>> No.28001759

>>27991645
I'll trade Pendora for Kronii TBQH

>> No.28001927

>>27998886
dont shit talk my oshi lamb meat Ame deals with stress by streaming low effort stuff

>> No.28002364

>>27978113
same but she always sounds like she's one bad day away from a menhera fit and graduation and giving me anxiety

>> No.28003654

>>27990927
I don't watch Kronii, but I also don't talk shit about her.

>> No.28003655

>>27998531
Take your cottage cheese-filled ass back to facebook.

>> No.28004734

>>27976803
Am I the only person that thought Kronii would be the first to go?

>> No.28004985

>>27976803
What "mood"? They barely know each other. If some faggo I met online in some guild and who was barely ever on suddenly decided to just not play anymore, I'd never give a shit. What a terrible excuse to not stream.

>> No.28006553

>>27980905
bae is in college and has chink parents, she's not moving anywhere. weak rrat.

>> No.28007431

>>27977398
> Thought she would have graduated months ago, and was considering it.
> Fans made her want to stay and push through.
> Blatantly said she was unsatisfied with how this went, despite potential rrats that Cover would obviously want to avoid.
> Super stubborn about not using her back injury "as an excuse", which is why she was silent about it for months.
> Asked Cover to not mention her back thing in the PR statement for the same reason.
It's 'back hort', it always was.

>> No.28007474

>>27977363
not sure what you fucking expected from the cesspit that is /vt/

>> No.28007801

>>28006553
She moved to America to go to college and get dicked down by American boys

>> No.28007857

>>28006553
do you positively have to be asian or something to get into hololive with the exclusion of most of gen 1 EN

>> No.28007883

>>27976803
can relate

family problems can never be solved. living hell.

>> No.28007965

>>27977363
>Streams during the most inappropriate time.
>Cancels stream and makes a graduation about herself while others in EN are streaming in order to raise peoples spirits.

>> No.28007983

>>27977398
streaming ("working") 1 hour a day is too much work
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>> No.28009060

>>27977297
Calli said on her members stream that they knew for a long time, Mumei also said something similar, it's unknown how long the others holomems have known, perhaps months prior. They needed to know beforehand to process the news about Sana's graduation.

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