Why is Hololive popular with normalfags?

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Hololive is undoubtedly the most popular and accessible vtuber group out there, but why? Aren't normalfags supposed to hate idol culture?

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>>27929748
I'll buy you a stream deck mommy uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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>>27929748
No way, idols are a huge business and normalfags love special celebrities like that.
It's only Twitch retards who have been brainwashed into inventing reasons to hate female streamers.

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>>27929748
They have the best entertainers (on the JP side)

[Anonymous No.]

Oh they do hate the idol culture for preventing women from getting "the sex", because normalfags value one thing above all else and that's "the sex". However normalfags have become mentally controlled by whatever's trending on the internet and animeshit is popular and retards on /vt/ make shit memes which filter into the normalsphere and are edited into increasingly distorted, nonsensical forms for normalfags to 'consume' while they watch their daily 5 minute clip (the optimal runtime) so they can say that pegor is their 'oshit' so they can fit in with all the cool kids on twitter.

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>>27929853
We live in a weird society where twitchfags basically never get laid, ever. But somehow they think if they shit on other people who think whoring yourself out is wrong, they can e-cred their way into being a sexual tyrannosaurus despite being fundamentally pathetic people. The entire internet nowadays is one big pretentious copeworld, in much the same fashion real life 20 years ago was normalfags pretending to be things they're not. Really weird to see, but that's how it is.

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>>27929748
Normalfags don't watch streams. They're clipfags.

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>>27929748
normalfags don't hate the idol culture. the people who hate on it are extremists of a different type than the people who go turbo incel here, it's just hard to remember because our board culture leans towards one side of the spectrum and we forget that inbetween are a ton of people who don't give a fuck about anything except opening up streams on algorithm and seeing cute anime girls that they probably don't even remember to subscribe to

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They don't even know they're 'idols'. HoloEN doesn't feel like an idol group.

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>>27929748
EN Pandering that culminated with the Traitor Dragon and her legion of redditors.

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>>27929748
And that makes it easier to get into
You don't have to be in any niche besides liking anime girls to hop into hololive, since their content is mild
Also popular thing gets more popular because being popular attract posers

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Remember, one of the most popular members of HoloEN is Calli, who doesn't do the idol thing at all.

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They're boring and only people who have never watched a stream in their lives would find them entertaining and would move on to something better

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>>27932084
>Korone
>boring
Who am I supposed to be watching that's better?

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>>27932021
What's "the idol thing" in this case specifically? None of HoloEN does "the idol thing", not a single one of them

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>>27930049
>Really weird to see, but that's how it is.
its just the normalfags from 20 years ago having internet access now

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>>27932084

The only thing that's boring here is your life anon.
Its time to get Isekaid

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>>27929970
>5 minute clip (the optimal runtime)
The meta is less than 2 minutes clip right now.

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>>27930232
Not true. Take one look at a HoloEN members chat during a stream. It's all normalfags.

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>>27932527
The meta is 30 seconds, but that's only when showing clips to people who ALREADY like Vtubers. If you are showing it to someone who knows nothing about them or has no strong opinions, then 10 seconds and less is optimal.

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>>27932527
>>27932879
But also be careful that if something happens in the first 2 seconds that the normalfag does not like, the next 2 seconds must subvert the viewers expectations or otherwise the normalfag will not like it and will stop watching.

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>>27929748
>Aren't normalfags supposed to hate idol culture?

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Initially cover pretended to be an idol group. They kept up a pretense that all their talents were carefully vetted for boyfriends (lol) and yagoo made public statements comparing his company to an idol group. But these days, after endless doxes and shitshows, they stopped the pretense. Now yagoo issued a public statement that hololive has no business in the personal lives of their talents, telling us what we already know essentially. So there is no more illusion anymore. I mean people can pretend if they want, but we all know the truth.

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>>27929748

Normalfags are prone to forget if they are having a good time. As you said it's accessible and it fits with normie shit.
I'm pretty sure most forget that this is an idol company and not an entertainment one.

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>>27929748
who kbows

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because gura said "a" two years ago and that blew up on twitter and tiktok
that's it
that's literally all there is to it

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>>27932396
Go back

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>>27929748
What does normalfag mean in this context exactly?
I'm a bong so to me normalfags only use youtube to watch music videos of the songs they heard on radio, are still watching old school TV and when they have a sort of routine that goes like
Work>TV>Get Paid>Go out drinking
and that's been how they'll live life until they die.

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>>27943172
yes, the average hololive watcher

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>>27944224
hololive isn't on TV

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>>27929748
Why are you such a giant faggot?

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>>27943172

Yup, the people companies cater to because being a jobless wierdo who hates everything and has no money isn't worth their time.

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>>27945313
So it doesn't mean an actual normie, it means normal brain function?

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>>27945351
>>27945376
Let's get them incels sis!!

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blame the coof blame Projekt Melody

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>>27929748
Normal people beyond a certain age (somewhere between 20-24) stop finding spamming overly sexual talks (i.e: cum, dick, nipple, etc.) or talking about controversial politic issues "fun". A joke once in a while is fine, almost several per stream is a bit much. Holo just happens to be the "safest" group among chuubas right now

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>>27945510

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>>27945313

Basically it means a normal well adjusted functioning member of society.

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>>27929748
>Hololive is undoubtedly the most popular and accessible vtuber group out there, but why? Aren't normalfags supposed to hate idol culture?
The first thing (why is Hololive popular) and the last thing (idol culture) don't really have all that much to do with each other - sure, we can argue about how they are related (ie. "Hololive is the most popular BECAUSE it is the most idol-like", and then go in circles about what that means for "so normies actually LIKE idol culture after all?").

But I'd posit a simpler explanation - normies just like what is already popular (in some ways, that's one of the quintessential definitions of "normie"). And Hololive has been the most popular vtuber group already for a few years now, especially in the West, going from ascendancy to dominance at least since late 2019 / early 2020 for various reasons (viral meme clips, gacha collabs, broad clipper base providing lots of easy entry points for more newfags which fuels more clips in an ever growing feedback loop, competing agencies shitting the bed with bad decisions and missteps, covid boom, and finally HoloMyth being the first "serious" attempt at an EN branch by a major JP agency coming in at the right time right place to capture all that growing pent-up demand for an EN group and cornering the market with their first-mover advantage).

So, at some point, when you reach a certain size, there is a sort of "institutional inertia" that basically guarantees you keep growing (unless you majorly shit the bed with a couple of fuckups and missteps), because the self-reinforcing nature of the YT algo selects for what is already popular (because, with reason, it thinks that this is what people want to watch, because hurrdurr it wouldn't be already popular otherwise) and prioritizes that in their recommendeds, thus feeding ever more people to the already popular thing in a self-sustaining manner (until all the potential fanbase is eventually tapped out).

And people, especially "normies", LIKE to partake in what's already popular. First, it is "safe", there's no real controversy and drawback for liking [popular thing]. Second, and this is also important, [popular thing] also always comes with a massive existing fan community, and people like to "belong" (especially nowadays in the modern individualized world where actual community is a scarce commodity and gets replaced by imaginary fan communities). That's attractive in itself, no matter the "quality" of the thing the community is build around, the fact that it has a community. Unless you're consciously a contrarian hipster (and normies are by definition not), you'll flock to where already the most other people are, because that ensures you'll always have other people around to talk with you about [popular thing] and have a constant stream of fanmade content to enhance your experience. Other smaller vtuber groups for example don't have that benefit and it's much more of an uphill struggle for them.

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>>27945864
> reddit pasta

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>>27929853
>>27930049
Isn't Amourant the top female twitch streamer?

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>>27929748
>Aren't normalfags supposed to hate idol culture?
That's why they're pushing hard for Hololive to dropped le toxic idol culture e.g. see Rushia incident instead of watching Vshojo.

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>>27946048
Ironmouse surparssed her already, however, she is the richest since her Onlyfans has shown to be making 1mill+ per month... holy fuck america was a mistake.

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If you think about it Hololive is less of an idol group and more of a youtube community guidelines group

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>>27946013
How so? I never mentioned reddit at all - but hey, if you want to go there, sure, one piece of Hololive's popularity has also been how reddit-friendly they are, having the largest subreddit for any agency, and actively involving its reddit via things like meme reviews etc. (thus making the community feel "involved", fuelling greater engagement, which drives more new people to the reddit because the place is "happening").
So if you want to use "reddit" as a pejorative, be at least consistent and accept that Hololive itself is already the "most reddit agency" out of them all

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>>27945541
>20-24
A couple of friends (reddit couple with a child) of mine still have politics as a hobby end their humor still reeks of peepeepoopoo and they are 35.

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Hololive don't have "idol culture" just they are not preaching stick in the butt assholes like niji or promote blatant children toliet humor like vshojo.
And respect to Boyfriend GFE stuff they are too much "in your face" with the hate they feel for their audience. At least Hololive tries to hide it.

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>>27946205
You should see the top applications that make money if you think that’s sad. Most of other countries have games, but America has tinder and TikTok, Roblox as the highest ones. Kids play games while older men simp.

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>>27932174
kiara

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>>27929748
Because it's the Current Thing(tm) in the anime fandom, and anime itself is now popular and among millennials and zoomers. Long are the days of hiding power levels when there are two (almost three) generations raised on watching anime online.

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Because normalfags are racists in the closet.

[Anonymous No.]

Content and love for the fans. Hololive have so much to offer as entertainment it is impossible not to watch it unless you are an anti.

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>>27945510
People keep falling for these lmao

>Vox's Love Slave

Why are fujoniggers like this?

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>>27929748
is it?