/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>doesn't even announce her own music anymore
What is her problem?

[Anonymous No.]

Her problem is Cover management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
He is

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294

It seems all her music are came from her own pocket.

Usually Hololive Production post her song in their twitter, but oddly all her new songs aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
I can fix her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
she gave up just like cover gave up on her, she should just joim Vshojo or Nijisanji

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>>27870294
You know people keep joking about mori leaving for vshojo. But the one I'd see totally leaving for vshojo would be irys based on how incompetently management has conducted themselves with her. It's really sad you bring her with out gen mates as a vsinger but won't provide her with anything and treat her like shit. I wouldn't be mad or surprised if irys graduates sometime next year.

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>>27870799
No, gtfo nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
she needs an agency, cover doesn't give a fuck about her, nor her artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870844
...why? They wouldn't help her with her music at all though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
Honestly, she leaving for Vshojo or Nijisanji is the best option for her. she's obviously being ignored

[Anonymous No.]

Cover doesn't tell her when stuff is gonna be released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870919
Tbh Irys was in a better place when she was a independent back when fan support actually mattered.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover doesn't care about her, she needs to reconsider her choices

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870844
nijibeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870919
leaving for vshojo is baffling considering she wants to be singing, they dont help with that at all. Don't know why baiters even bring it up, its low quality and wont get people seething, NijiEN would be better bait.

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>>27870914
She only good at doing cover anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870914
Cover are autists. For example they added irys to one of the jp concerts if my mind serves me correctly, everyone else had 3d avatars while irys was the only one looking like a fucking retard singing under a jpeg image lol

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[Anonymous No.]

>>27870914
But at least they wouldn’t get in the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871021
Where did you read niji anywhere in that post? Are they living rent free in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

Announce what? All of her songs are the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
>Irys: Hey! My music is done, can I announce it?
>EN: No, we got to hype it up first. Save it for your anni and announce it at the end of the stream.
>Irys: Okay
>EN: Proceed to leak Irys music

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871153
but they wouldn't help, and lets be real Cover is helping her more than hurting her due to the connections alone which vshojo doesn't have. But even assuming they were more harmful than helpful the next logical choice isn't vshojo, its nijisanji.

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>>27870799
>not Phase Connect

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>>27871162
reading comprehension retard

[Anonymous No.]

she's barely more than a session singer for them and i don't think she cares about any of the music she's producing for cover

such a waste of talent

[Anonymous No.]

stealth beggar thread

[Anonymous No.]

cover shills working overtime

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871197
Also, we will tell you the title of your song after you've posted the wrong title.

[Anonymous No.]

RETVRN

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871361
For those free gifted memberships

[Anonymous No.]

Cover has to change its attitude if it does not want to lose more talents

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>>27871409
as much as I want to,,, she's not ready for her return

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>>27870844
it's not cover's fault irys' songs didn't take off, i wouldn't even really say it's irys' either
anyway she ain't going anywhere, she fits in great with the JP/weeb-oriented organization
one thing is for certain though, her model is ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
She doesn't need talent or hardworking in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871574
Freedom from talents

[Anonymous No.]

>no help from management
>shit model
>no new outfits or nosejob
>no genmates
>shit songs with no announcement support

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871755
It depends on your concept of freedom

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>>27871667
yea, the biggest issue is the model, its handicapping her hard. She needs it to be fixed, then a good 3d.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871791
Even indog have better treatment than this

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871821
fewer talents = less work

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871791
it's like she never stopped being an indie but yagoo takes the cut anyway

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>>27871667
>>27871832
I find it difficult to get her model fixed, since her papa is a lazy bastard

[Anonymous No.]

Irys should have been a huge breakout hit. Singer, bilingual, solo debut. If she took off, cover would be in a totally different position today. After she and Council failed to meet expectations or work for growth, they've let other competitors into the industry. If en3 is released and is a huge success like myth, irys and council will become like the lost generation, the forgotten middle kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871964
Irys is already one

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>>27871964
Redjuice killed her potential

[Anonymous No.]

Had no clue they even were gen2 desu>>27871964

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871964
She cold have been a huge breakout hit if she wasn't bland and lacking in drive to do anything for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

You know who would treat her right? Gunrun with her fanny pack

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>>27871667
I think Cover should just have someone else do irys models if they were to have someone willing to create a ver.2 of her current avatar and fire redjuice i think she'd be more happier. Part of her unhappiness is how hard she's begged for a new outfit countless time yet it all falls into deaf ears.

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>>27871574
We should put more pressure and use legal to them more and they can't leave it.

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>>27871964
>S-SHOUL HAVE BEEN
ah but irystocrats don't you see, your delusion that she was bound for greatness will always be alive as long as management keeps sabotaging her. its actually quite helpful, you will always have an excuse for why she's not the top holo

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>>27870294
WHERE IS HER NEW OUTFIT

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>>27871251
Why Phase Connect

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871832
i'm glad she's able to make it work, her personality is able to shine through somehow

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>>27872152
I mean I made this post and I don't mean "should" as in deserved but "should" as in, this was a great market strategy. Solo debut for buzz, singer for more labels and brand recognition, and it grows EN without overpolluting it with talents. It's her and her management's fault that this didn't happen, but it is what it is

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>>27871090
>they dont help with that at all
Neither does cover, kek. At least over there she won’t be treated like a second class citizen

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>>27872169
Fingers crossed teammate. I'm hoping my wifeRyS gets something. Its just a matter of time at this point

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>>27871964
Hopefully Cover takes the hint and has IRyS read more chuuni nonsense in the series announcements of announcements leading to a whole generation of ugly miscasts

[Anonymous No.]

Even if she does get a outfit or one announced tomorrow its pathetic it took 2 years to get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872169
I have a proposition for you miss watson could you travel into the future and bring her an outfit!

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>>27870294
The people in charge of her are incompetent and lack professionalism, they spoil her anniversary announcement, RedJuice made 1 over the top design and dipped, management is always late with her MVs, she's in japan but HoloX got 3D first. Hololive didn't live up to her expectations.

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>>27871964
>Council failed to meet expectations
How is getting comparable viewership to Myth failing to meet expectations? The only outlier is Gura who you'd have to be retarded to think anyone would be comparable to her.

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>>27871791
Yet her streaming rate is on par with Council, I really do wonder what special kind of retard suggested the EN Vsinger project to execs when Gen2 was around the corner.

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>>27871964
> Coco shilled and advertised Myth nonstop and show passion for helping Myth everyway possible.

> Council have only stupid long video lore and Omega use them advertised Omega than Council. Irys also the same with Council but without shilled Omega.

Tldr
Myths had Coco
Council + Irys had not Coco
Coco was the pillar of the bridge.
Hololive lost the bridge that day

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872334
She's only been around a year, shitposter

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>>27872169
She's not a Greek SSR Rider Servant, so Redjuice doesn't care.

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>>27871153
They wouldn't give IRyS all the funding for her songs either. Seeing that she had tons of recordings recently (especially during June), surely that couldn't have been cheap. If IRyS wanted to 100% in control of her songs, she just needed to fund those herself (or maybe with the same initial amount as other Holos instead of being taken care of 100%)

[Anonymous No.]

At this point I don't want a singer, a dancer, or even an oshi for en3. I want an absolute shut-in autist who just fucking pumps streams. Look at Kaela. Her work ethic is fucking unbelievable. The least popular of her gen in sub count, yet she streamed so fucking much and worked so hard and now she has legitimate viewers and growth. I want a hag like Kaela, I fucking love that bitch

[Anonymous No.]

Cover's been ignoring her for 2 fucking years, why don't she go indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872550
Just 1 year and next year she will graduate if Kson success with VshojoJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872550
Read >>27872434

[Anonymous No.]

>en3 debuts
>its ollie all over again
>wants to collab with nijisanji and vshojo
>tribalfags freak out

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
>Fluent in English and Japanese but debuted in the EN branch where the only talent she can offcollab with is Mori
>No genmates
>Redjuice debuff
>Council will have 3rd outfits before she gets a 2nd
>No 3D
>"Vsinger" of EN but gets the shittiest management over her music in the entire company

You know in Kung Pao where Wimp Lo was trained wrong as a joke? It feels like IRyS is some experiment by Cover to stack as many debuffs on a talent as they can and see if she can still pull viewers.

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>>27870527
He's dead tho.

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>>27872634
Ollie in beginning better than Council now

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>>27871113
>everyone else had 3d avatars while irys was the only one looking like a fucking retard singing under a jpeg image lol
far from the first time that's happened to a Holo
>>27871932
they could just replace him, it wouldn't be the first time they did that

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>>27872484
Both Kaela and Koyori stream a lot. Neither of them are the most popular among their gens. I understand that you want more streams, but let's face it: If fans just want more and more streams, Aqua and Ayame wouldn't have been as popular as they are.
Heck, since this thread is about shitposting about IRyS, let's just look at IRyS: her number during June was the best she ever got in the past 3-5 months, and she only streamed 6 times

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>>27872484
Anon is right, however it's not something you can show in a 10 minute video audition, unlike song and dance etc., and easily impressionable staff-san is going for the latter every time, which is how we got Council to begin with. Artists don't want to be streamers, they audition and stream because they want a simp farm to support their artistic endeavors.
>>27872634
At least Ollie went out of her way to say she has a boyfriend in her debut stream, give me 5 EN Ollies, I say, I know Cover wants them too.

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>>27872550
See >>27872434
and she said, both in public and member-only streams, that even though things can get tiring at times, she is happy at the moment. You can figure the rest out

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872173
It's the only other decent EN company outside HoloEN

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>>27872248
she'd be treated worse, like nothing at all, because there would be nothing to treat her with and she'd have to do everything herself. At least nijisanji has connections similar to Cover's.

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>>27871113
>For example they added irys to one of the jp concerts if my mind serves me correctly, everyone else had 3d avatars while irys was the only one looking like a fucking retard singing under a jpeg image lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_oaGycOCzg
This isn't even the first time, you should honestly try not to make it so obvious you are a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872754
>10 minute video audition, unlike song and dance etc
I wonder what council showed that got them hired considering most of them can't sing or dance and don't want to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872802
>Boyfriend Connect
Lmao, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872651
> No Coco
> No therapist
> No advisor
> No the bridge

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872752
Because when you stream like four times and every stream you have is a collab or "return" stream, they draw more viewers. Her numbers since the start of the year tanked compared to her first 6 months.

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>>27872839
ASMR, voice acting, and drawing. Cover are retarded like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872342
can't, body hort because coof

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872651
Nene was the test run. But seriously, if the money's good then I don't see Iry leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872752
This is a retard take.
She rarely stream that's why it pull more view every time she comeback.
Just look at Ayame.

[Anonymous No.]

This is one reason why Hololive needs real competition, so talents can jump ship if they're not managed properly and Hololive is forced to get better. Professional artist switch agencies all the time, but there's nowhere IRyS can go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872802
>It's the only other decent EN company outside HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe Cover sabotaged IRyS by making her boring as both a singer and streamer. They really did her dirty by jumping in that time machine and guiding her every step in life to form the boring person she is today.

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>>27873025
They don't give a shit about EN.
They only worry when JP start losing views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873019
If I'm Cover I'm very worried about what Ayame is doing. She basically discovered the secret sauce.

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>>27872883
>Her numbers since the start of the year tanked compared to her first 6 months.
Almost as if she is one of the most culled among EN (below only Gura and Mori, judging by pool participation rates), right?
Wait, she actually is.

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>>27873025
Global Ayamefication is the end goal

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>>27873063
Yeah, and I can't believe they used the same time machine to kidnap you as a child and turn you into an unapologetic shill.

[Anonymous No.]

Credit goes to IRyS for lasting this long without quitting. I would've lost my shit long ago if I was her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872802
Cope

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>>27873077
Same psychology at play in gambling/gacha

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>>27873019
That's my point, though. Ayame and Aqua are two clear proofs that you don't need to spam streams to be popular. Heck, if fans care that much about having a lot of streams to watch, Kiara's numbers would have been significantly highe and Koyori would have been one of the top Holo.
Fact is, most of fans don't really care. You don't need one (or more) stream per day. You want 5 Mumei, Kronii or Gura instead of 5 Kaela or Koyori

[Anonymous No.]

Don't know why anyone would expect decent treatment for joining as a vsinger after seeing AZKi get treated like garbage for years by INNK before they even announced the EN audition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873301
We should have 5 Ayames.
Stream less cost less
High profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871409
Yo check her twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873350
Omega still has credit that day and Suisei is from INNK

[Anonymous No.]

im a schizo by nature, but ive noticed now that every person who's streamed since the off collab has been too goody goody. they're pandering to their chats, reading messages, acting girly, saying they want to stream a lot
normally id be happy but im too schizo and i started thinking about it. why would talent who can coast by on one or two streams a week suddenly start streaming more? why are they making promises about improving their schedules? why are they suddenly clingy with their chats?
my guess is en3 is coming and they're afraid they're going to lose a substantial amount of viewership when their viewers find a solid, consistent talent in en3. to viewers, en3 will be the new toys everyone gravitate to. everyone else is desperately trying to scramble to solidify their fantasies before the inevitable shift of attention
i won't taking my meds

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>>27873350
Did both AZKi and suityan ask to be transferred or was it a corporate decision?

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>>27873472
Nah that kinda makes sense. Even more so when we know the girls meet the future gens well in advance. They could be scared of the competition after seeing them.

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>>27873499
Suisei transferred because she pushed for it, and A-chan helped. She was also integrating with the rest of holos thanks to Matsuri.

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>>27872802
>decent EN
Here is your first mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873499
Suisei - Fight and pay ( with real money ) for special audition. She pass

Azki - INNK is dying so she sign new contract to stay in Hololive ( She want quit at first)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
They witnessed Kiara and Ame's work ethic. They are easily influenced by their peers, that's why they took it so easy when they saw how Sana got away with taking months off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
Ultra based. If today's menhera space was because The Alpha Omega was threatening them all with EN3, then I hope EN3 is fantastic enough to keep the other ENs desperate and eager to please as a woman should be. This can only end in wholesomeness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873614
Suisei didn't pay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873607
He just shitpost to not add Vshojo in Hololive universe.

[Anonymous No.]

"She" just tweeted about it. Depression arc incoming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
So the supposed leak of EN3's August debut is real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
You are just being a schizo, anon.
It's simple, as pretty much all of them (or almost all?) have said - they are happy now. When you are happy, your stream will become better. Just wait a month for their mood to stabilize and you will see their streams return to normal in no time
Council pulled in most of their fans instead of taking Myth's (outside of Sana, there are only somewhere between 10-30% overlap between Council members' viewers and Myth's). Why should they be worried that Gen3 will be taking their fans? (and if Gen3 can't get *new* fans in like Council did, Cover should be worried)

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>>27870294
How can she announce anything when management won't tell her anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873712
oh boy, so this kinda confirms that it's all on cover huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873614
>>27873673
AZKi wasn't going to quit either. Her contract with INNK would have run out in 2022. That was part of the arrangements made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873673
She paid but never tell amount.
Do you really think Cover open special audition for free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
I felt that something up recently but couldn't put my finger on it. This is the rrat I choose to follow

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873446
come back already
poyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
Oh please, the amount you stream has never, ever fucking influenced popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS can't hide her feelings so the stream is gonna be filled with passive aggressive vitriol

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873794
Only retards think it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873813
Source on that

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>>27873795
She was thinkking about quit from Vtuber but Hololive popularity save her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
>en3 will be the new toys everyone gravitate to
I misread this post as
>new toys everyone graduate to
It's the fans that graduate, not the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873836
She should just spend the whole stream shitalking them

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873950
That would maybe lead to cover having to face accountability for something. Can't have that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873950
Kiara isn't even bold enough to straight up shit talk them, you'll get vague statements at best

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873950
> Banishment room like Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874052
She shit talk Omega many times

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871143
I have never seen a holofag defends cover management.
The management sucks and everyone know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874148
Are you coma for full 1 year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874148
Exactly, let's hope that with Vwhorejo trying to take their talents they improve

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871409
She could easily return to her extremely successful channel. Her 500 a stream viewers would become 3-4k easily and she'd get more of the money. IRyS has a gosling army that will follow her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874148
have you graduated from the hololive fanbase?

[Anonymous No.]

Namirin probably confirmed for Vshoujo JP. We're gonna timeloop back to branch wars, except this time there'll be mead and rejoicing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874128
Their are staff members higher up the corporate ladder than omega. Unless they use "omega" as a blanket term for all of upper management which is not really the case when their is a known person behind that visage. It seems the higher up corporate suits at Cover are nigh untouchable by talents. As
>>27874052
said, Kiara the bold wont even mess with them and her Austrian autism makes her cut the shit most of the time. So clearly the talents can't or wont poke that bear. Their could be some inside reason as to do so or just fear of corporate wrath, we'll never know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874212
>>27874246
>>27874284
>>27874308
Fuck off, vshojoshills

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874212
>>27874284
t. never opened /hlgg/ in their life

Everyone hate management. And Irystocrates have ALL the reasons to hate management even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874284
Yes, I stop watching Vtuber from Kaichou graduation and just come back to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873950
If IRyS ever aired her grievances publicly she would be swimming in nip antis. Japanese work culture demands you lay down and die for the good of the company and never complain.

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>>27871667
>>27871791
>>27871832
>>27871932
You guys are /still/ seething about the model? I already got used to it since fucking last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870844
Ironically there are lots of people who like her streams more then her songs

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874385
Cope
Enjoy the ongoing collabs and friendsships with hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
I hope this whore graduates soon
She barely streams anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874447
I can't get used to it, it's too weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874501
Enjoy your freedom to watch YouTube videos in Twitch, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874385
> Vshojofag
> Watch Suisei, Azki and Irys

Pick one and only one

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874455
I am one of those people. I think the genre of music IRyS produces is dull even though her actual voice itself is great. On stream, IRyS is very adorable and has a certain quality that makes you want to protect her, which is then boosted by cover's repeated mismanagement of her.

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>>27871964
So IRyS and Council are the Xbox One gen of hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874537
Sure you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874532
Rent free
say one thing about collabs and it sets holofags off rofl, no wonder holofags are as soft as dreamstans

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874532
Enjoy your freedom to watch.. Oh wait the holoEN's don't stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874654
I don't watch enshit. Vshojo doesn't stream either btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874389
We love brand and not care talent's freedom here. That for Vshojofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871667
I honestly love her model, it really amazed me when I watched her debut back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874654
Even if they don't stream they are better than Kson

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874731
>We hate management
>NOOOO WE LOVE BRAND
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874783
Don't mind the ESL tatsucuck, he pops up in every thread to defend Kekson and shit on Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874591
Till the end of me was pure kino. The others are hit or miss. Iry's streams are her strong suit because she's adorkable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874783
In the case you really coma 1 year for real, time change and we care Hololive branding and management more than Hololive member now.

Hololive is the best now because of Cover's upper management not talents anymore. They just VA now

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874532
You niggers always act like hologirls don't do member watchalongs, which is even sadder because you actually have to pay money for them to do the laziest content in existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874729
Ah yes has why Zen does 8 hour 6-7 days a week
Mouse 6-7 days a week nyan 3-4 days mel 4-5 a week froot 3-4 silver no fucking clue don’t really care for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875000
Holy ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874385

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874852
> this

Like I said, they love brand and management more than talents now and make talents become VA of anime charecter instead.

Very sad if you ask me

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875000
>indecipherable english
can I mate with you please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875000
t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875143
Hey man how much does Vshojo pay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874852
> talk shit to upper's management
>insult Hololive

Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875062
1000 hours of streams reacting to YouTube videos=1 hour of video game stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875143
>thread talking about Cover's management
>"this totally wouldn't happen in Vshojo"
Hmmm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875251
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875143
Even the Vwhorejo memes are copied from Holochads lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875211
nice deflection cover shill, how much is Yagoo paying you to shill his shit merch here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874063
She's already in a semi banishment room. I wouldn't be surprised if Cover punished her on purpose because she got public about how incompetent they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875269
It's not wrong because we talk about what if Namirin just go to Vshojo if they exist in that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871964
>singer
Her songs had english lyrics arranged by a semi-literate retard until recently, IRyS is a noob when it comes to shilling herself and Suisei's first album pulled attention away from her. Also no 3D so no 3D lives.
>bilingual
Barely any interaction with JPs, where are the collabs? And Cover dropped the ball with her 3D so she didn't even appear in 3D lives.
>solo debut
Mistimed. IRyS' early months were buried under Council's debut, Myth anniversaries, August being stacked as fuck in general.

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>>27875143

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875164
>>27875223
Speaku Engrishu, tatsucuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875365
Surely it's a coincidence that everytime that there's a thread talking about Cover's management vshojoshills come out of the woodworks to talk about how much freedom they have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875355
Source?
When and where she got public about how incompetent they are?

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>>27875251
lmfao you really don’t look into stuff you argue about huh? even if that was remotely true she still mogs a ton of holos for example holox, council, most of id, tokino sora

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875288
The proof is my superior opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875411
Kek
I’m saving that

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875351
Not enough, hence why I'm asking how much the globohomo funded twitch partner company pays you to shill.

[Anonymous No.]

cover employees working overtime here uh

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875485
Just watch streams. IRyS talked about it several times. she also complained about "work" with her roomate

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875471
Freedom is good anon.
I want freedom someday.
I just not understand why have more freedom is bad. In my life, freedom is sacared and precious

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
I will cover the Cover in blood of their middle management team if they don't pull their heads out of their asses

[Anonymous No.]

Just gonna sit back and enjoy the collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875492
>tatsucucks demanding proof and honesty from someone
RUMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875680
Cancelled

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>>27875639
*Some* freedom is good. Freedom to do whatever you want is shit. Ideas are born when there are restrictions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873472
>This is their job
>They want to keep their job
Not schizo at all, makes complete sense. Pro athletes try harder during a contract year for the same reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875485
you don't even watch streams? fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875701
They happend already

T. Haaton

[Anonymous No.]

> fires top earner for not behaving like an idol
>fires top earner for having a boyfriend
>forced employee to move from her apartment because former worker joined another company

[Anonymous No.]

anon, your memes are complete shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871964
Already happened to NijiEN females when the faggots debuted

[Anonymous No.]

Coco deserved to be treated badly by Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875062
>nyan 3-4 days
Why would you go on the internet and post such easily debunked lies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875742
>Ideas are born when there are restrictions.

Do you really believe ? It just put more suffering to talents until they break.

One wrong step = Banishment room

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875639
>>27875933
Why are Vshojo friends becoming more and more ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875761
She talk subtle and cryptic way but you just tell me open and public.

Well, may be I am mistake but not intentional

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875996
Because they are SEAnig playing both sides and replying to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

why so many people defending COVER here? i thought 4chan hated corpos, fuck off newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875933
Yes. Tell me, what did Kson do with all her freedom? Nothing special. What did Coco did with her freedom? Built a pillar in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875996
英語は難しい

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875893
He needs to make up lies to defend Kekson. He even said that Vwhorejo is not a company and that she is indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876095
Ah ah ah sou desuyone

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>>27876091
She did a lot but you just not notice

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875996
It is a jap tatsucuck that appears in every thread about Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876179
What did she do besides show her ass and stream on Chaturbate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876099
it's not though
company =/= agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
>no genmates
>ugliest model in Hololive
>no one cares about her music
What a sad existence

[Anonymous No.]

Omega wanted her to be the V-singer. So she debuted as such. Now Omega has fucked off and Irys is in limbo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876182
What wrong with it? I still support Hololive and just give VshoJP a chance

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>>27875933
Kronii broke and revealed multiple pieces of doxxable info while complaining about the stress of whatever she was dealing with. It was a wholesome, purely kino event that warmed my heart. Now, I firmly believe that the only good chuba is a broken chuba, which is why Cover's alleged attempts at breaking their chubas were in fact for the greater good all along. Until a chuba becomes a defeated mess and bares their soul to the World, Cover's work will never be done.

As a point of fact, only by destroying the old can you rebuild anew. The mind-break strat is almost flawless, with few actual washouts.

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>>27874591
Till the end of me was good. One Step at a Time sounds pretty decent too. At least it looks like her music quality is going up (in my untrained opinion at least)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876241
RUMAO

[Anonymous No.]

God i hope Cover gives her nothing. No outfit, no 3D, just endless recording. I want to see how much abuse can this woman handle

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875788
Meds, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876241
https://www.vshojo.com/about

[Anonymous No.]

what if i like vshojo, nijisanji and hololive am i just a retarded uneducated fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876240
> help indies a lot of indies
> help VOMS
> helo Phase connect
> help Maha5
> help Yaman family
> help Konoka
> built network for indie if you want to consult with her and free
> Merch and Coffe shop collab
> Open present box marathon stream

Etc

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>>27876354
No, they need to give her hope. An outfit would suffice. Just enough to keep her going, but not enough to keep her from opening up a bit and leaning on her parasocial fandom for support. That...is the kino I seek.

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>>27876440
yes you haven't ditched cover's bullshit yet

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>>27870294
when does she graduate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27874400
>we will sabotage your career if you complain about your employer sabotaging your career
I fucking hate Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

Post not having to anything with VShojo
>VShojofaggots: well achyctually, this wouldn't have happened if she was in VShojo.
Kill yourself immediately

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
>What is her problem?
Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876448
And Towa has donated millions to help children, I am talking about streams and content that she could not produce in Hololive

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>>27876354
IRyS is a hafu, having JP blood means she has pretty high tolerance. Just watch her (and her roommate's) stream - she complained about things at times, but generally she will also say - unprompted - that she is pretty happy right now and Hololive is her dream and all that. That's pretty much white collar mentality - the "I hate my job / employer at times but I love my job anyway" kind.
IRyS wasn't joking when she said that IRL, she is a meek, tame girl. It's likely that she isn't going to go menhera, ever, if that's what you are looking for.

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>>27876021
JOP esl sama have you come to the zoo to gather info on your oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876636
>she isn't going to go menhera, ever
Sad if true

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>>27876297
You are just sadistic

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>>27876636
>It's likely that she isn't going to go menhera, ever
[Sad news]

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>>27876740
I just want a variety of quality parasocial GFE. And apparently that only happens when a chuba has some sort of deep inner sadness, like Matuli and Kronii. Happy chubas don't have enough raw sincerity to move my heart.

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>>27876616
> Collab with indie
> Collab with other agentcy or company
> Gunpla stream
> Collab coffee with another indie Tarou san
> GMMF
> hot line for indie
> tourist stream like onsen trip

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>>27876608
Rent free

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>>27876870
That just your fetist?

[Anonymous No.]

Cover did this to Suisei and Azki too. There's weirdly better support within hololive for music than outside of it with cover's various music projects.

Irys needs to quit project hope and join whatever setup Suisei and Calli are in

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876928
Holomens also collab with indies and other companies, the only thing different was the Gunpla stream where she showed her face to attract tatsucucks

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>>27876712
I usually watch Hololive and I really don't understand what you mean

Ego wa musukashit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27877019
More like romantic sensibilities. Not interested in a fake, sanitized parasocial relationship. The raw, real stuff is what makes it worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27877053
THIS
All their music project failed and they still learned nothing from it. Even with the UMG deal for Mori, they were going to do retarded stuff if Mori didn’t prevented them.

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>>27877053
Neither of them are in any setup. They are just funding and taking care of their musics on their own (well, with some funding from Cover for original songs like all other Holo members). There isn't anything to join.
That might not actually be a good choice for IRyS unless Mori and Suisei can introduce her to their lyricists and composers.

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>>27877090
It not just collab... well it like
Roberu x Mea who collab 10 times from promise nonstop

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>>27876948
How fucking ironic

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>>27877190
As was stated in another thread, Cover's nature as a tech company might hamstring their ability to competently be an entertainment company, as the people with the money and power who make decisions might not be familiar with the nuances of that kind of business.

>>27877212
The best thing cover has to offer Iry may very well be the connections she can make through other holos. When in doubt,figure things out yourself.

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>>27877184
Not judge you but not my taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870799
You need to be a /here/tuber first to join Phase Connect

[Anonymous No.]

>>27876608
???

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>>27877053
because
Vsinger :
Azki hab problems for long time thanks to that
EN management:
self explanatory

[Anonymous No.]

Would she leave to join 2434? Vshitshow? Go Indie? I feel if Hololive isn't making her happy, nowhere will be able to

[Anonymous No.]

>>27873763
>and if Gen3 can't get *new* fans

Gen 3 can take NijiEN Girls Fan, Oh wait theyre holofags aswell.

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>>27876269
I may be misremembering things but wasn't she the one who said that she kept applying for hololive like Luna and kept getting rejected?
It might be that she wanted to be in myth but missed the chance and just settled for the vsinger position without actually thinking about the restrictions or problems she would have both with the model and position.

[Anonymous No.]

look at the holobronies trying to pass her off as being unable to have a career as an indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878161
>>27878201
like a clockwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878161
>>27878201

Graduate this graduate that
Anon how about you graduate your life first?

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>>27878234
It's not so much that she can't make it, its that Hololive is throwing every single piece of tech, teaching, and resource at her
She would easily get her money back and then some as an indie, but she won't ever have a studio plus a corpo backing without cost

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>>27878182
She most likely applied for JP anon

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>>27878440
Could of applied for both JP and EN. Her PL streamed in English for the most part with some japanese words thrown in.

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>>27870844
Because VShojo is going to provide her with her music stuff? lmao

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>>27870294
Because its not her music.

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>>27878511
She could sing whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted, instead of playing this stupid game of "YAGOO may I" all year round

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>>27876608
Yeah reading this thread and being membered to irys makes me feel like I’m crazy. It’s like the same 10 beggar posters complaining about stuff they don’t even know/care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870844
>Hey you’re management is to incompetent to help you? Come join the company where there is NO management to help you, that will surely help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878656
even their falseflag is way too obvious
>>27878161
>>27878201

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>>27878632
>has never watched a karaoke on youtube
How blissfully ignorant you are

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>>27870294
>What is her problem?
her face

[Anonymous No.]

IRyStocrats should be more vocal about her mistreatment.
When cumsharts threw a shitfit over the hack rigger and it blew up on reddit, management actually responded and next outfit was rigged by someone else

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>>27878182
1. Only Suisei sent her application twice.
2. You are thinking of Nene, not Luna.
3. Even so, Nene didn't sent her application 4 times because she was rejected, she was just dumb enough to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

i hope the tranny discord doesn't get the janny spot

[Anonymous No.]

>>27878440
>>27878182
You are probably misremembering.
She already talked about this both recently and before. She got in Hololive on her first application (as she said it, Hololive is her dream so she went all in on it). At the end of her interview, she thought she failed because they told her something in the line of "Good luck in your future endeavors", but ultimately she got in.
She did say that she auditioned for something else singing-related long time ago, though, and failed in the final round (there were only 3-4 left IIRC). Probably some singer or idol group audition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27882280
it's always discord trannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872754
>Artists don't want to be streamers
[angy wah noises]

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872849
Yes, that's why they're good. Cope and seethe, unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872362
>comparable viewership to myth?
Not sure about that. Their VOD views are far behind where Myth was at when they got to their 1st anniversary. One of them might hit 50 million lifetime views by the 1st Council anniversary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27875788
The picture is related because it explains what is needed to believe the greentext.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872802
>He genuinely thinks this

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>>27876440
Flee this place, while there is still a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871266
>vtuber
>talent
Pick one. They're glorified Twitch streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27885365
you do it then

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>>27885754
Do what? I'm a tourist who just watches anime girls play video games. The songs are meh and not worth caring about; vacuous pop pieces with awkwardly animated music videos likely done on the lowest budget possible, which is hilarious considering the insane amounts of money these girls get thrown at them by simps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27885916
Retard, don't give your opinion if you don't know what you are talking about. Go hang out on /a/ or /v/ again.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't listen to any music from any of the Hololive talents. Are the songs really as bad as you cunts say it is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27888698

https://youtu.be/Bd5iM3SfFqQ
https://youtu.be/YEalOf9lOPU

[Anonymous No.]

>>27888698
The "serious" attempts at music yes, they are very bad. The good ones are the meme songs like Noel's or Korone's.

[Anonymous No.]

The answer is because it isn't her music. She gets told what to sing and has only a very limited ability to change or add something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27888912
I hate you niggers so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
Graduation announcement coming in t-minus 4 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871090
VShojo has been getting close with musicians like Aethelstan and Damondice. They probably know a thing or two about how to produce music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27892665
>They probably

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>>27870844
IRyS has nothing in common with vshojo, making cunny jokes is not the same as talking about copious amounts of cocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872825
>remembering Umisea and cover's abortive attempt to make a water themed supergroup

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>>27872754
>At least Ollie went out of her way to say she has a boyfriend in her debut stream, give me 5 EN Ollies, I say, I know Cover wants them too.
All that makes me think of is how robust she is. A woman of great gravity, if you will.

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>>27870678
If I remember correctly, wouldn't that be an indicator that her music choices of late have been her own then? I think Cover foots the bill if the talent does what they want them to do with regards to song style and content.

If so, sounds like IRyS and Cover have very different visions for her musical career which isn't a good sign.

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>>27873472
And THIS is why you don't take an entire fucking year to debut gens. You gotta remind the new hires that fame is fleeting, that they gotta build their fanbase and DO IT NOW. The new gen will drop any moment now and if the old and busted girls didn't do their homework they will be relegated to the broom closet of vtubing history. EN3 can't come soon enough, and it should've come in May.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870678
Doesn't that completely negate the point of vsingers being its own thing? Why keep them away from regular Holo gens if they don't actually get any special extra features/options and she literally streams/acts just like a regular Holo anyway? Functionally Mori is the vsinger, she and Irys absolutely could have swapped places and nobody would have thought them off-feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27871153
then she better goes indie, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
Did they ever say when they're done ''putting the last tweaks'' on her fucking kimono that's now 7 months late?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27894934
Basically yeah if you think about it, Holo had functionally 3 gens (counting Gamers) in only about a year when they got off the ground... the girls who didn't immediately dig in and hit the ground running are literally Mel, Aki etc and years later they're still smalltime. Aki fucked up her hip and couldn't stream for a while not long after she debuted, similar to the Sana dog situation her momentum just up and died afterward. Sana is EN Aki basically, and the others are struggling to not become future Chocos - Choco -was- big at one point, but quickly got eclipsed by new hotness and didn't try to claw her way back up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27896967
IRyS said "maybe" next year we will get to see the outfit

[Anonymous No.]

Don't worry, the MV is coming soon(tm). Which one? Till the End of Me? Akatsuki no Hana? Any of the Journey songs? Who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27897325
Do you even watch her? Till the End of Me already has an MV and half the other songs you listed aren't good enough to deserve one anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27897492
I wrote Till the End of Me but I meant to write One Step at a Time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872403
myth had covid... a lot of people trapped inside their houses using internet no stop with no bette options in real life. no football, no basketball, no baseball, no live shows etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>27896967
It was never about tweaks. She rejected the outfit so they would have to redo a whole new one basically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27872470
where did you see that? did she say it somewhere? about the funding of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27882280

Please understand, that's all they have left to distract them from the pain of dilating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27870294
>>27870466
>>27870678
>>27870799
>>27870844
>>27870855
>>27870919
It's not cover, it's redjuice, his lack of giving a shit caused IRyS to stop caring as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>27901016
I think Redjuice just didn't understand the commitment he was getting into by fathering a vtuber and he would 100% turn down the job if asked again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27901177
Thing is, he holds the partial IP rights to the character, japan has this entire legal process they have to go through in order for IRyS to be able to get a new artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>27901016
>>27901177
There's no evidence for this. Redjuice retweets her often and there's no sign that he doesn't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27901361
The no 2nd outfit is the evidence. How many times does the girl behind the avatar have to cry before someone finally calls him out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27901457
She didn't even cry about that. And if you followed her roommate you would know she has said what happened with the NY outfit and didn't make it seem like it was redjuice's fault.