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Let me know if there's anything else we can add to the list.

Maintains complete ownership over all Holo intellectual property meaning the talents have no essentially no rights over their own characters.

Created such a restrictive environment that their talents have had, on multiple occasions, had mental breakdowns over it and think of their own managers as "enemies".

Hired Hitomi Chris, watched her get blackmailed and statutory raped by a Cover employee then fired her for it instead of offering any kind of help to the (underage) victim.

Did nothing again when Yozora Mel begged for help while being stalked and harassed by another one of their employees, leaving her at risk for months until she got her own lawyers involved.

Are so bad at Youtube that several of their talents lost basically their entire video archive. Then failed to ever restore most of that content.

Created a male branch, then undercut them with restrictions and such a lack of support that multiple members were forced to retire early while the rest starved in poverty conditions until Roberu's breakout.

Also gave no financial support to female talents that were not monetized resulting in Kanata having to go several months literally penniless.

Sided with antis against Mano Aloe while they threatened and harassed her real life home because of a mistake caused by one of their own managers. Then they suspended her, forced her to apologize while doing nothing to protect her from stalkers. Then denied her request for a break, forcing her to retire from the stress.

(continued below)

>> No.27812397

ogey

>> No.27812421
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>> No.27812450

Rent free

>> No.27812573

(continued from OP)

Suspended Coco & Haachama for saying "Taiwan" and accusing them of making "political statements". Then lied to the fans about it by releasing different versions of their own statement.

Deleted their entire Chinese branch because it was inconvenient for them. Leaving their former talents to deal with the fallout without any support.

Increased restrictions on Coco the point it destroyed all of her morale to the point she had to retire.

Killed Haachama's lore project. Made Pekora cry on stream about how biased the management is. Forced Marine to pay out of her own pocket for milestone events. Didn't let Kiara do a birthday event forcing Amelia to have to set it up herself.

Did nothing when korekore announced a video that would have destroyed Rushia's career, forcing her into a response that led to her termination.

Pressured Kanata and Kson into separating over non-existent "security concerns" to punish Kson for joining a rival corp.

In b4 "other corps do some of these things". That doesn't give Cover any right to treat their talent like shit and they're far worse in this aspect than any other corp.

Let me know if I missed anything.

>> No.27812636

>>27812364
Let's List All The Good Things OP Has Done
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>> No.27812654

>>27812573
>>27812364
NIJI EGG SEANIGGER BUGMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.27812655

Holy shit stop man they're already dead, you can see in the replies nobody even attempts to disprove anything.

>> No.27812694

>>27812655
BUGMAN ANYONE WHO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE GREAT COVER ARE AN NIJI WATCHING BUGMAN!!!!!!

>> No.27812793

>>27812450
>>27812421
>>27812397
Anons tell me how any of what was posted is wrong

>> No.27812811

Not even 10 posts and already samefagging, jesus christ you people need actual hobbies

>> No.27812848

>>27812573
You forgot to mention that Mel's stalker still works there

>> No.27812862
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Holy kek Cover and Hololive lives utterly rent free in the heads of everyone who hates them on this board

>> No.27812876

>>27812848
SAMEFAG ANYONE WHO DON'T ACT LIKE OP IS WRONG IS SAMEFAGGING!!!!!!

>> No.27812894
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They provided assistance to help my oshi become a superstar.

>> No.27812896

>>27812573
Their biggest crime was making a Indonesian branch and ruining this board.

>> No.27812903

>>27812364
Terminated Rushia

>> No.27812936

>>27812903
You don't understand Anon they had to because she break the NDA!

>> No.27812943

>Created a male branch, then undercut them with restrictions and such a lack of support that multiple members were forced to retire early while the rest starved in poverty conditions until Roberu's breakout.
holy based. i will forever side with cover now

>> No.27812975

Don't care, still watching hololive

>> No.27812985

>>27812421
>corporate cock sucker accusing anyone else of sucking cocks

>> No.27813045

>>27812903
terminated for leaks information to dramtuber and threaten to dox the girls

>> No.27813142

>>27812364
Fuck Coco and Jewson

>> No.27813182

>>27812793
What'sup. >>27812397 here. I don't disagree with anything you said, and I have no issues with whatever Kson is doing with VShojo if that makes her happy. But I just respond to drama and bitching with an "ogey" out of habit, especially when using a Coco image as the OP. Sometimes I'll use migothumbs with-or-without text, sometimes I'll "ogey" with an image, sometimes just "ogey".
You could have called Coco a judas-whore-satan-whatever the bugmen spammers say, and I would have still said "ogey" all the same. It is what I do.

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>>27812364
how does that affect kson's creative freedom ?
is she doing any better now than when she was working with the black company?

>> No.27813233

>>27813045
Imagine believing something KRKR made up to get more views on his next video.

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>> No.27813258

>>27813190
>is she doing any better now than when she was working with the black company?
Absolutely. She is much happier than any time since September 2020. Noticeably.

>> No.27813358

i hate holobronies so much its unreal, i want to punch them until they cry like little kids then do it again...

>> No.27813414

>>27812573
>and accusing them of making "political statements"
They did. Taking sides in a territorial dispute is a political statement.

>> No.27813465

>>27813414
>They did. Taking sides in a territorial dispute is a political statement.
We've been though this before. The group who took sides was Alphabet Corp via YouTube.

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>> No.27813718

>>27812364
Literally all of this is such a blatant mischaracterization of events that it would take me an hour to go through why each of these points is pure VCuck copium.

And, nah, I'm not about to dedicate that kind of time to an anon on /vt/. So, all I'll say is "rent free".

>> No.27813754

>>27813358
i will beat up my son and abandon him at a penitentiary if i find out he is a vshojofaggot

>> No.27813761

>>27813718
So no argument and you concede? Ok. Don't bother replying unless you have something of value to say.

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>>27813358
fuck off

>> No.27813969

Demonetization arc.
It was solved by the community, especially fucking Lyger and a right-wing /pol channel of all people

>> No.27813971

>>27813679
Imagine the foresight if they put Rushia in Luna's position

>> No.27814054

>>27812364
>>27812573
why do people defend yagoo so much? are they employees of his or something?

>> No.27814159

>>27813679
you can't be serious

>> No.27814164

ITT holofags spamming "rent free" to deflect

>> No.27814207

>>27812364
Based OP

>> No.27814221

>>27812364
>Maintains complete ownership over all Holo intellectual property meaning the talents have no essentially no rights over their own characters.
Wrong. Suisei owns the rights to her own character. If she decides to quit Hololive she takes Hoshimachi Suisei with her. Also, the other characters were created by Cover so of course they own the rights to those characters. Try again.
>Created such a restrictive environment that their talents have had, on multiple occasions, had mental breakdowns over it and think of their own managers as "enemies".
Based. Women need to be reigned in and have rules and restrictions imposed on them or they'll go rampant and just become generic e-thots and whores...just like a certain COMPANY.
>Hired Hitomi Chris, watched her get blackmailed and statutory raped by a Cover employee then fired her for it instead of offering any kind of help to the (underage) victim.
Wrong. She promised to fuck a guy if he got her the equipment she needed to debut, then rescinded on the promise when she got what when she needed and then the guy exposed her and himself. She promptly, and justifiably, got the boot.
>Did nothing again when Yozora Mel begged for help while being stalked and harassed by another one of their employees, leaving her at risk for months until she got her own lawyers involved.
Wrong. Mel complained to the higher ups, the manager got fired but he still continued to stalk her. Japan had no law to punish stalkers unless it resulted in physical harm when he was stalking and harassing her, so all they could do was fire him at the time. That's why the stalking and harassment didn't stop even after the police got involved.
>Are so bad at Youtube that several of their talents lost basically their entire video archive. Then failed to ever restore most of that content.
This one is true and was sheer incompetence.
>Created a male branch, then undercut them with restrictions and such a lack of support that multiple members were forced to retire early while the rest starved in poverty conditions until Roberu's breakout.
Based as fuck.
>Also gave no financial support to female talents that were not monetized resulting in Kanata having to go several months literally penniless.
They literally get a salary, anon. Stop trying so hard to create false narratives.
>Sided with antis against Mano Aloe while they threatened and harassed her real life home because of a mistake caused by one of their own managers. Then they suspended her, forced her to apologize while doing nothing to protect her from stalkers. Then denied her request for a break, forcing her to retire from the stress.
They actually supported her a lot. They tried to protect her and even went as far as to offer to relocate her and her family and they said they would cover all the expenses for this, but she declined and graduated. Try again.
>Suspended Coco & Haachama for saying "Taiwan" and accusing them of making "political statements"
They did though so it was justified.
>Deleted their entire Chinese branch because it was inconvenient for them. Leaving their former talents to deal with the fallout without any support.
Based and one of the best decisions they've ever made. Who gives a fuck about bugs?
>Increased restrictions on Coco the point it destroyed all of her morale to the point she had to retire.
I wonder why. Also, they literally killed an entire branch for her and she fucked off in a hissy fit anyway just because she didn't get to do exactly what she wanted. After seeing what she's done after leaving Hololive nothing of value was really lost on that front.
>Killed Haachama's lore project. Made Pekora cry on stream about how biased the management is. Forced Marine to pay out of her own pocket for milestone events. Didn't let Kiara do a birthday event forcing Amelia to have to set it up herself.
That's just how it goes sometimes in businesses. Not everyone is going to get their way all the time. Also, Marine paid $500k for a fucking MV so money isn't really an issue for her.
>Did nothing when korekore announced a video that would have destroyed Rushia's career, forcing her into a response that led to her termination.
Management as well as other Holos tried to help her and told her to stop talking to a fucking dramatuber and to stop being a sperg. She didn't listen and made her own retarded decisions, and faced the consequences of those decisions. This is how the real world works. You make decisions and then you live with the consequences.
>Pressured Kanata and Kson into separating over non-existent "security concerns" to punish Kson for joining a rival corp.
Kanata literally said she decided to move on her own. Repeating this rrat ad infinitum won't make it any more real. You can choose not to believe Kanata, I guess, but you're being disrespectful and an asshole to Kanata if you choose not to and are just showing what a fucking schizo you are.

You misconstrued almost every point. Try harder next time, OP.

>> No.27814291

>>27814054
Because he's a meme. Dude is basically just a mouthpiece for the company and has limited power. Not that I think he really cares considering he's never even acknowledged most of this shit besides a few generic "We'll be better. Please understand." PR statements.

>> No.27814356

>>27812573
>Increased restrictions on Coco the point it destroyed all of her morale to the point she had to retire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banishment_room

>> No.27814406

>>27812364
Monitoring this thread to see how much of /vt/ loves licking boots

>> No.27814460

>>27812573
Creates a workplace where female streamers can compete with male streamers without whoring themselves out if they don’t want to.

>> No.27814514

>>27812636
>

>> No.27814597

>>27814164
cover employees*

>> No.27814662

>>27814221
Based.

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>>27812364
Don't you "Cover bad" me, i am an ENfag and the management here are based as fuck.

>> No.27814739

>>27814221
>Suspended Coco & Haachama for saying "Taiwan" and accusing them of making "political statements"
>They did though so it was justified.
you fucked up you giga retard

>> No.27814774

>>27813917
but if they killed all the hololive fans on 4chan they wouldn't have any more content to steal...

>> No.27814829

>>27814739
I accept your concession.

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>>27812364
begone thot

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>>27814861
KEK

>> No.27814957

>>27814861
thank saved

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>holo anti’s copying the employee thing
You retards the whole point of it is that niji bought ads (including their debuts and songs) and paid react to streamers to promote their shit.

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>>27814861
> LOOK HOLOTURD BROS, I POSTED MY SHIT EDIT AGAIN, ARE YOU PROUD OF ME?!!

>> No.27815134

>>27814221
>They did though so it was justified.
dumbass

>> No.27815259

i need to know, how much money does yagoo pay to deflect for him?

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>>27815259
Less than Riku pays for ads, bots and react to streamers.
Less than what Vshojo guy wasted on his shitty backpacks and less than what he paid Kson and notRushia to join

>> No.27815577

>>27815259
we are at the stage of extreme tribalism. console war faggotry levels
people are doing it for free. insulting a corpo is like insulting your god.

>> No.27815652

>>27815475
so the minimum wage in the philippines?

>> No.27815654

>>27815134
>no counterargument
I accept your concession.

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>>27814221
>The characters were created by Cover.
Cover commissions a design and about 2 lines of lore. Everything else about the character, including almost all of the content, comes from the talents.
>She promised to fuck a guy if he got her the equipment she needed to debut, then rescinded on the promise
Of course the guy would say that too cover his own ass. I can't prove it 100% for certain but its extremely unlikely he would have given her that equipment just on good faith.

>They literally get a salary, anon. Stop trying so hard to create false narratives.
That's not what Kanata said. Look up the clip yourself. Pic related.
>They actually supported her a lot.
They threw her under the bus for their own fuck up. The "support" offered way too little way too late.
>they literally killed an entire branch for her
No they killed off the CN branch because they fucked up the situation beyond repair. You're retarded if you think Coco's feelings factored in at all.
>Management as well as other Holos tried to help her and told her to stop talking to a fucking dramatuber and to stop being a sperg.
That doesn't address the main issue of korekore releasing a video that would've destroyed her career anyway.
>Kanata literally said she decided to move on her own.
Because Cover pressured her to. Kson confirmed that Cover was an influence in her "decision" and nothing Kanata said contradicts this.

I'm not going to address your other points since its all just braindead attempts at justifying Cover's black company oppression and we've already seen many times what that results in. And don't try to pretend like Cover are some kind of content geniuses they don't know shit about how to make appealing content every good idea that's ever originated from Hololive originated from the talents. Fuck your corporate censorship.

>> No.27815722

>>27812364
Introduced the world to Ame.
That's it.

>> No.27815802

>>27815654
>show youtube stats
>political statement
RETARD
Imagine siding with the biggest faggots in the world just to make Cover look good. The same ones still harrassing fubuki.

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>>27815658
>>27815802
Holy fuck they are actually seething, thought it was just a falseflagger

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>>27815802
nta

>> No.27816101

Cover's "salary" is minimum wage for the handful of hours that they work in the office recording shit and stuff like that, which they are legally required to pay. If they don't have enough income from their cut of Youtube revenue they need a second job.

>> No.27816394

Rent free: the thread

>> No.27816452

>>27815658
>Kson confirmed that Cover was an influence in her "decision"

are you talk about the members comment where she goes full menhera?
the one where kekson says it false
are you using a flase stamnet as a proof to fit you narrative?

god this discussion is just looping of assumptions

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>>27815658
>Cover commissions a design
They commission it, they own it. That simple. Creating further lore for your character doesn't mean you own the rights to the character. What kind of retarded mental gymnastics is this?
>Of course the guy would say that too cover his own ass. I can't prove it 100% for certain but its extremely unlikely he would have given her that equipment just on good faith.
So you have no actual proof and are just using your headcanon. Point dismissed.
>That's not what Kanata said. Look up the clip yourself. Pic related.
Doesn't add up with what the other talents have said about getting a salary. Also, Coco did say they got a salary but that it was lower than expected. So you're wrong again.
>The "support" offered way too little way too late.
That's just your opinion. They offered her support, and to relocate her and her family at their own expense. She chose to decline this and graduated. These are the facts.
>No they killed off the CN branch because they fucked up the situation beyond repair. You're retarded if you think Coco's feelings factored in at all.
I never said anything about them taking her feelings into account Stop making up your own headcanon about what people are saying. Also, they can get rid of a branch that fucked up a situation beyond repair and still do it for one of their talents at the same time. Nothing I said here was wrong. You're reaching.
>That doesn't address the main issue of korekore releasing a video that would've destroyed her career anyway.
This doesn't address the issue of her not listening to anyone and making the situation even worse than it already was. They told her to keep her head down and remain calm and they'd do something about it when they could. She didn't heed anyone's advice because she was impatient and a menhera and dug her own grave. It's that simple.
>Because Cover pressured her to. Kson confirmed that Cover was an influence in her "decision" and nothing Kanata said contradicts this.
That's not what Kanata said. Kson was a menhera when she said this. She also backtracked on it and edited it and said that's not what she meant, so nothing she says should be taken seriously. You're literally just using your schizo headcanon to fit your narrative. Take your meds.
>I'm not going to address your other points
So you have no argument for the other points. No need to further than here then. I accept your concession.

>> No.27816842

>>27813182
You're doing gods work anon

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>>27815658
>Cover commissions a design
They commission it, they own it. That simple. Creating further lore for your character doesn't mean you own the rights to the character. What kind of retarded mental gymnastics is this?
>Of course the guy would say that too cover his own ass. I can't prove it 100% for certain but its extremely unlikely he would have given her that equipment just on good faith.
So you have no actual proof and are just using your headcanon. Point dismissed.
>That's not what Kanata said. Look up the clip yourself. Pic related.
Doesn't add up with what the other talents have said about getting a salary. Also, Coco did say they got a salary but that it was lower than expected. So you're wrong again.
>The "support" offered way too little way too late.
That's just your opinion. They offered her support, and to relocate her and her family at their own expense. She chose to decline this and graduated. These are the facts.
>No they killed off the CN branch because they fucked up the situation beyond repair. You're retarded if you think Coco's feelings factored in at all.
I never said anything about them taking her feelings into account Stop making up your own headcanon about what people are saying. Also, they can get rid of a branch that fucked up a situation beyond repair and still do it for one of their talents at the same time. Nothing I said here was wrong. You're reaching.
>That doesn't address the main issue of korekore releasing a video that would've destroyed her career anyway.
This doesn't address the issue of her not listening to anyone and making the situation even worse than it already was. They told her to keep her head down and remain calm and they'd do something about it when they could. She didn't heed anyone's advice because she was impatient and a menhera and dug her own grave. It's that simple.
>Because Cover pressured her to. Kson confirmed that Cover was an influence in her "decision" and nothing Kanata said contradicts this.
That's not what Kanata said. Also, Kson was a menhera when she said this. She also backtracked on it and edited it and said that's not what she meant, so nothing she says should be taken seriously. You're literally just using your schizo headcanon to fit your narrative. Take your meds.
>I'm not going to address your other points
So you have no argument for the other points. No need to read further than here then. I accept your concession.

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>>27816744
I know that clip without looking it up. She is talking about the Japanese tax. She stated everything else was what they calculated but Japan taxed the shit out of them. Try harder faggot

>> No.27817082

>>27812793
Anon more then half of your points are made up narratives by other anons on this site. Almost none of these were actually proven because both Cover and the Talents don't tell us shit.

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>>27816977
Doesn't change the fact that she got a salary. Try a bit harder yourself nigger

>> No.27817212

>>27817082
Can't reason with schizos. They regurgitate anything they read on here and treat it as gospel. It's just how this site works.

>> No.27817232

>>27812364
>>27812573
Yes, we all read the dumbshit narratives faggots make in this board but that doesn't mean you have to believe them.

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>>27817097
Sorry I think I friendly fired

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>>27817360
It's all good

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> Holy fuck they are actually seething, thought it was just a falseflagger

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are holofags really the applefags of vtubing?

>> No.27817732

>>27816921
>This doesn't address the issue of her not listening to anyone and making the situation even worse than it already was. They told her to keep her head down and remain calm and they'd do something about it when they could.
They took their sweet time releasing a "defense" but when she posted her coordinated statement calling them out for shit talking her they were very fast to call her a liar (after she said cover even confirmed she can post the statement).

>> No.27817850

>>27816921
>They told her to keep her head down and remain calm and they'd do something about it when they could.
"Just let this guy spread a false rumor to an audience of over a million and destroy your life, we'll write a useless letter about how we don't care about your private life in a few days and that will make it better somehow" Imagine unironically defending that.
>Also, Kson was a menhera when she said this. She also backtracked on it and edited it and said that's not what she meant, so nothing she says should be taken seriously.
Kson's tweet was referring to some other rumor that hasn't been leaked to the EOPs, you guys only got one member post.

>> No.27817956

>>27815654
AsaCoco episodes are all premade and Haachama made the mistaske while Kson was asleep. She had no idea and no time to alter and edit it. The "Coco showed Taiwan to cover Haachama" rrat was a fabrication made by both Chinks AND Tatsunokos to either make Coco the scapegoat for the destruction of the Chinese branch or portray her as a martyr ("Vtuber Jesus"). And when a big lie is repeated it becomes truth so much that the retarded blonde began to believe that was the case.

And the mistake is literally just showing Google Analytics. The real blame, who made the political statement: Youtube>Google>ALPHABET. Guess it's a US company responsible for destroying HoloCN, setting the wumaos on Cover and making Kson join Vshojo. Americans win again.

>> No.27818049

>>27817695
Yes, in the sense that the thing they like has extremely high customer satisfaction, is immensely popular, and is extremely profitable, but contrarians seethe about it constantly and declare it will fail any minute now for a variety of inane reasons that their fans don't care about

>> No.27818117

>>27817695
no, youre shit at making analogies

>> No.27818167

>>27814054
Yeah, I get 10 cents everytime I shill the based Yagoo, and 1 dollar for every reddit meme I make of him

>> No.27818272

>>27812364
>Hired Hitomi Chris, watched her get blackmailed and statutory raped by a Cover employee then fired her for it instead of offering any kind of help to the (underage) victim.
My greatest regret in life is that I'll never become or have been an idol producer for a black company. There's no greater despair in life than not having company ink to dip your pen in.

With that said, I currently have a positive opinion of vtubing companies (including Cover). At least there's a dream to live, even if I never get to live it myself.

>> No.27818310

>>27816921
>They commission it, they own it. That simple.
No, IP is based around the idea of creators having rights to their own creations. The girls do the majority of the work in creating the characters lore, personality and content therefore they should have some rights in regards to the character. That's how it works in other industries.
>So you have no actual proof and are just using your headcanon.
Accepting the word of an attempted rapist and thief at face value instead of applying common sense. Excellent logic.
>Doesn't add up with what the other talents have said about getting a salary.
The situation might be different depending on monetization status I'm just relaying what Kanata said. If they were getting an income, then it was likely what the other anon said. A few hours worth of min wage salary.
>I never said anything about them taking her feelings into account
You said they axed the CN branch "for her". There's zero evidence of this and the situation was fucked up beyond any hope of repair at that point anyway.
>This doesn't address the issue of her not listening to anyone and making the situation even worse than it already was.
I never denied Rushia made it worse. I said her career would have been ruined anyway because Cover did nothing to stop korekore. They could have easily prevented the situation with a Cease and Desist notice.
>That's not what Kanata said.
She's under NDA so she wouldn't be able to say this even if she wanted to. She never denied Cover being involved despite the fact that she obviously would have if they weren't.
>Also, Kson was a menhera when she said this. She also backtracked on it and edited it and said that's not what she meant
Kanata is under NDA so she can't mention Cover's role in this. She didn't deny that they were involved. Kson didn't retract her statement. She just said that people were "taking it too far" and was trying to do damage control.
>So you have no argument for the other points.
I didn't bother to address them individually because the same argument applies to them all. As I said previously Cover 's oppression of their talents only ruins their content and their mental health. Their only job should be supporting their talents (as far as is reasonably possible). If you think Cover knows how to make good content better than their own talents you're an actual fucking NPC Cover shill.

>> No.27818338

>>27817956
Adding to that, Coco actually did what Rushia was supposed to do. Her manager told her to shut up and they will deal with it, and that's what she did. And because of that, the chinamen attacked her for "not apologizing quickly enough" even though she later clarified that she literally wasn't allowed to apologize until her return stream after her suspension.

And what did she get for following Cover's advice? Basically put in a banishment room and neglected until she decided she had enough and quit.

The same fate was awaiting Rushia, which is why she decided to defend herself on her own. Cover is completely incompetent.

>> No.27818395

>>27812848
Is this rrat true? That'd be the most batshit crazy thing yet.

>> No.27818398

>>27813679
Holy kek, literally
Top schizo: you're winner!

>> No.27818429

>>27818338
Zhangs never cared about apologies, retard.

>> No.27818465

>>27818395
No, they were fired immediately
Pretty much everything the OP posted is either misleading or outright false

>> No.27818496

>>27818429
Literally google translate any zhang post. "She's guilty because she didn't apologize right away like haachama" is what they all say.

>> No.27818576

>>27814221
I'm sure Yagoo will suck your cock Anon

>> No.27818577

Kek i love this kind of thread, keep going anons keep wasting your life trying to make wall of text and oc to seethe about hololive anons lmao, atleast you remind me to be grateful with my life and my mental health that im not a schizo

>> No.27818624

>>27817695
Yes
Cover can do no wrong

>> No.27818626

>>27812364
zhang being a faggot again I see
don't you have bat soup to make?
>image where schizos make shit up in the same vein as when schizos insisted the mario galaxy logo said "U R MR GAY"
>normal thing
>thing that is not the case
>embellishing something with lies
>ignore the part where they fired the employee prior to the stalking, so they did something but it wasn't enough
>hurr why can't they undo dmca faggotry once they fucked up and had it happen
>melodramatic nonsense
>absolutely untrue thing because cover's talents get paid salary whether they're streaming or not
>thing that did not happen in response to thing that did happen, also abject lie because the reason she quit was her stepfather threatening physical violence if she didn't
>>27812573
>suspended yes, did not "accuse" of doing something they didn't do, just acknowledged the uproar, and yes, tried to make a statement tailored to shutting up the uproar which was entirely your fellow zhangs
>wah wah the backstabbers got canned it's so horrible!
>untrue statement
>stopped haato from getting herself banned oh nooo! yes, fucked up with not letting peko do something then letting someone sle do it. everyone spends their own money on shit oh nooo aaaa. lie.
>yes everything involving rushia and dramatubers is a shitshow the world will end aaah
>oh no they actually took rules seriously what monsters!
they are not treating their talents like shit, zhang. fuck off and die.
>>27812694
take your meds.
>>27812848
I mean, 90% of his rant is lies anyway so what's one more?
>the stalker still works there! ignore that he got fired before stalking her, and then further put under when mel threatened to sue if they didn't do more!
>>27812936
it's almost like breaking contracts has consequences, who could ever imagined that?!
>>27813190
which black company? because if she was working for one, she wouldn't be in the same field anymore you stupid mongoloid.
>>27813358
>h-h-horsefuckers!
>>>/trash/
>>27813414
there were no political statements made. google's own analytics were read off as-is.
and anyway taiwan is not part of china, deal with it zhang. there's no "dispute" outside the imagination of pooh. the real world does not aquiesce to his faggotry.
>>27813761
nothing you've posted is of value, and yet you're here.
>>27814054
why do "people" think yagoo matters?
>>27814221
you were doing so well untill you supported the zhang idea that reading someone else's analytics is a political statement, you fucking idiot.
also, why be suprised about faggots around here spamming rrats ad-nauseum no matter how false they are? like how we still have retards insisting that ina somehow forced cover to hire sana on the basis that they knew eachother before hololive.
>>27815658
wow, look, a screenshot with text of your choosing pasted onto it, such amazing proof. try harder. like, an actual clip. with translation by someone who isn't you, so it'll actually be a translation instead of just you lying. the fact that holos have salary is a well-known fact, you bat soup slurping reject.
>t-they fucked it up!
no, the CN talents who decided to join the wumao fucked up. try again, zhang.
>s-she c-confirmed that t-they were a p-part of it!
and yet, saying such a thing does not include specifying how or how much. try. harder.
>o-obviously if she s-said something that i-isn't anti-c-cover they made her do it!
one. you are retarded if you seriously think it works that way. two: fubuki's already made it clear that she'd walk if cover did that kind of shit. fubuki's around, they're not doing that. of course next, being a zhang, you'll insist she's a liar, won't you.
>b-b-black c-companyyyyyy!
chanting it doesn't make it true. in a black company these girls would be being worked to death and quitting would result in not being able to get further work in the field via a variety of efforts to keep them out. stop using terms whose meanings you do not know.
>>27816101
[citation needed]
>>27816921
>she chose to decline and graduate
again, it's not like aloe had an actual choice when keeping the job meant kusodad putting her in the hospital.

>> No.27818636

Didn't it basically turn out the whole Coco/China drama was egged on by bilibili anyway
Dozens of people have done the exact same thing before and since without incident, but the one time it happens to coincide with them launching their in-house vtuber group, it's suddenly a big problem that requires kicking their biggest competitor off their website

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27818692

>>27812364
The Aloe thing is just frustrating.

>She should have white washed her history but she is autistic and any Delta fan can confirm she is really bad about clearing her history without someone holding her hand and telling her "DELTA THE VOD YOU SAID YOU WOULD DELETE! DELETE IT!" It is a cute quirk from a fan perspective but frustrating from a management stand point.
>her manager should have done a better job of assessing the situation she spent months with the girl she should have done her due diligence
>her genmates should have reached out to her and not left her alone Delta has gone on record saying if someone would have shook some sense into her she wouldn't have graduated
>other hololive members as far as I remember did jack shit for her any other company would have had a circling of the wagons like you started to see with Coco
>Cover allowed a girl to get coerced into graduation and let it happen
>her family just fucking it all up
>JPfans could have just not acted like a bunch of fucking psychos
>ENfans and IDfans could have not acted like a bunch of virtue signaling retards


I mean in the end she was able to make A LOT of money which is nice considering how she got fucked so hard, antis went to court or were served papers, it opened the doors for her to work with a lot of vocaloid artists, she got a super nice sound booth from Cover, she is getting voice acting work, the breakdown after wards broke her voice so bad she had to take singing lessons which made her singing better then Aloe and closer to her best stuff, and according to her the live2d is ACTUALLY almost finished.

But yeah looking back on August 2020 is just frustrating but blaming just Cover for it all is kind of disingenuous. Even she puts most of the blame on herself which is deserved but also not fair since there were a lot of things that went wrong and only a few things needed to go right for her to still be Aloe.

Ah well it was 2 years ago. She found freedom outside the system.

>> No.27818691

all this text still can't match the power of the word
nijinigger

>> No.27818742

>>27817695
No. Apple makes good hardware, offers refunds, and any purchase comes with a 1 year warranty. Also their engineers are highly paid and don't have to (almost literally in Mel's case) suck JP manager cock to get anything done.

They're still overpriced black box consumer PCs with no repairability, but nothing nearly as bad as what OP has outlined.

>> No.27818767

>>27818626
based schizo slayer

>> No.27818769

>>27813917
Kek. Link to the original post? I tried looking, but couldn't find it in the holo or vtuber subreddits

>> No.27818924
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27818924

>>27818338
>Cover is completely incompetent.
I'd wager it's just that they're not a black enough company. Try to follow along, here. If the vtubers had value beyond being profitable, they wouldn't be so easily disposed of. Personally, I can only see that sort of thing happening to women who aren't willing to make themselves useful to those with the power to decide their fate.

Unless I'm completely wrong and they did, in which case that'd be absolutely tragic. But maybe that's why I'm not an idol producer for a black vtubing company, because I wouldn't have the heart to abandon a woman the moment she became slightly inconvenient. That'd just be a waste of a perfectly good resource, and bad PR to boot, all to appease an unappeasably irrational anger.

Then again, life isn't like an eroge, so maybe it couldn't have been helped. The world is a cruel place, and sometimes choices are hard to come by.

>> No.27818958

>>27818338
It happens when you playing that game. Rushia wanted her gachikoi to spend all their money to her, to be their only girlfriend, faking to live accordingly.
A skizo who attracts skizo for big money. Setting a bomb ready to explode at any little yab. She got what she deserved, the bitch.
Now she trying to drown everyone with her and Kson and Kanata are the first victims

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>>27818626
Holy fucking based.

>> No.27819012

Holo paid shills at full force.

>> No.27819069

Vwhorejo and niji paid shills at full force.

>> No.27819110

>>27818924
>I'd wager it's just that they're not a black enough company.
Well, people here do often commend Anycolor for being more professional while they have talent quitting in droves to go back to streaming as indies (10 in the last 4 months)

>> No.27819151

Worst thread in months. Blow it out your ass.

>> No.27819160

My dick shooting at full force.

>> No.27819167

>>27818958
You're schizophrenic and an EOP

>> No.27819169

>>27818465
>they were fired immediately
Definitely not immediately. Otherwise it wouldn't have been an issue

>> No.27819253

>>27814221
Lmao.
All this is true.
Fuck Tatsunocucks.

>> No.27819276

>>27819169
They were fired as soon as the company knew about it, the problem was at the time the stalker was technically not doing anything illegal, so all they could do was fire him

>> No.27819396

What do Cover's boots taste like?

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my wife will destroy hololive and make kanawhoreleech kill herself, can't wait.

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27819471

>>27818626
>you were doing so well untill you supported the zhang idea that reading someone else's analytics is a political statement, you fucking idiot.
You know what, I'll own up to this. Yeah, I was a fucking idiot on that point.

>> No.27819492

>>27818395
Even if you contest the truth of the information you can no longer find cover's statement on the entire incident on their site. Literally trying to revision history like the chinks holofags claim to hate.

>> No.27819529

>>27812573
What's that about Pekora crying on stream? Haven't seen that before

>> No.27819545

>>27819110
It could just be a poor value proposition. If the streamers don't get enough from their association with Anycolor, or their goals don't align with the company's intentions for them, that might be the issue.

Rather than seeing a vtubing company as a get notable quick scheme, the greatest value seems to be for ambitious and creative vtubers who'd like to try leveraging a corporate infrastructure to build their brand as a legitimate, institutionally recognized character/personality.

While I can't speak to anything regarding the vtubing industry as I'm just a random anon, my layman's impression is that corporate vtubing is best for the types with an "I will become anime!" mentality who're willing to suffer the indignity of being a corporate mouthpiece in hopes of using the company's influence to go legit and become immortalized in various other commercial works.

>> No.27819561

>>27819471
>kneels when someone else does it better
weak

>> No.27819576

>>27819529
iirc it was about management constantly shooting down her projects/ideas or something, but someone correct me if i'm wrong

>> No.27819586

>>27818395
maybe it was not written in the official statement that they fired him.
Idk. I don't remember. it was 2 years ago,

>> No.27819655

>>27819561
>because doubling down would have been better
ok

>> No.27819692

>>27812573
I can tell you're a nijinigger because you left out Nene being denied her own 3D for many months after her genmates got it, which meant she was forbidden from performing alongside them at the Bloom Live concert. This made Nene cry because she felt as though Cover was placing unfair restrictions on her that nobody else had even though she did nothing wrong. This made Nene cry.

You mention this
>Killed Haachama's lore project. Made Pekora cry on stream about how biased the management is. Forced Marine to pay out of her own pocket for milestone events. Didn't let Kiara do a birthday event forcing Amelia to have to set it up herself.
but you didn't mention how Cover made Nene cry over this. Faggot.

>> No.27819715

>>27818626
I can't even make sense of this shit. Have you ever used this site before? Use quotes dumbass.

Just saying that everything you don't like are "lies" and providing no counter evidence isn't an argument. Especially when most of this stuff is already proven and well-known.

And no I'm not Chinese retard. Zhangs are living rent free in your head.

>> No.27819731

>>27817695
yes in the sense that both make overpriced garbage that others sell for a cheaper price without a drop in quality.

>> No.27819735

>>27812364
Gives everyone 3D despite their numbers, just look at ID1.

>> No.27819736

>>27819396
Nobody bitches about Cover more than hololive fans
This also means they actually know the details of the events they complain about, whereas the OP is just a list of old rrats that are mostly false or omit important context

>> No.27819754

>>27818395
They got fired immediately. But Japanese law is retarded with stalking so they could do nothing but that.

>> No.27819759

>>27819576
Yes. A project in particular but no one knows what it was.
Maybe an off collab?

>> No.27819790

You faggots really need another hobby. This is /v/ levels of pathetic console wars

>> No.27819802

>>27819421
Based.

>> No.27819910

Cover NPCs keep bringing up the Kanata/Coco salary thing because it's literally the only part of the accusations that's actually debatable. But it's besides the point because even if there were being paid it's obvious from Kanata's wording that it was a pittance at best.

>> No.27819915

>>27819790
Feels like it's only going to get worse

>> No.27819925

>>27819692
Nene's original design was apparently a managerial fuckup. Their attempts at correcting this are what appear to have resulted in the delay. It was an unfortunate set of circumstances that appear to be more the result of incompetence than outright malice.

While there should've been more thought put into the creation of their own IP, it's a fact of life that mistakes can and will be made. Personally, I think her oktoberfest outfit is much better. 10/10 would have her bring me some beer and sausages.

>> No.27819939

>>27819715
i keked, good job anon

>> No.27819947

>>27813255
>>27813649
>>27813679
>>27815047
>>27817629
>>27817695
I hope they don't pay you much for these

>> No.27819980
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>>27818924
Business be like that. The managers do seem to do their best now a days but even as late as Gen 5 the managers were still doing extremely head scratching things like blocking collab requests for Lamy because "they don't think she has chemistry with anyone." Yagoo seems to actually care about the talents under him and does a lot help them.

The issue is they are a tech company that was not originally focused on Vtubing but VR and AR. This means that the people in charge are answerable to the investors who only care about getting paid. Also a lot of their money goes into these ventures. Delta said it best hate the company not the talent. The talent really are on an island besides their families and gen mates all they have are the fans we saw it with Mike and Kson once they were out it really was only the fans left supporting them.

>>27819545
It's the same reason people join the WWE and dance for the camera with stupid gimmicks. At the same time if you do flake out you can go back to the indies and see pretty strong success.

>> No.27819993

>>27818626
300php has been deposited into your account. sank you for defending my honor.

>> No.27820016

>>27819925
That's still Cover's damn fault and they could've easily made the time to fix it in time before Bloom if they really wanted to retard.

>> No.27820082

>>27812573
You forgot the whole "Host crazy" thing that Mikeneko hinted at where a manager was internally spreading unfounded rumors about one of the girls being a regular at host bars. She reported it to HR who told her they'd fire this person yet the day after this person was still working there.
I assume someone else already listed it but I'm not reading this thread as it is likely filled with SEAmonkeys who think if they defend Cover with their lives they'll get a job there and plow their oshi.

>> No.27820112

>>27819529
the theory is that she wanted to do some event at the height of covid and management said no.

>> No.27820146

Do people really not see the irony in spamming the exact same 3-year-old complaints about Cover everywhere 24/7 and then calling other people shills and NPCs
You know you can just not watch them or give them money, right

>> No.27820206

>>27820146
yeah but i like calling people faggots and niggers sooooooo

>> No.27820225

>>27820016
Technically, but as >>27819980 mentioned they also have people to please. Even if it was ethically their fault that Nene was under performing, someone not familiar with the details of the business wouldn't understand the importance or urgency of solving the problem as quickly as possible. Such is the nature of bureaucracy. Not everyone with the power to make and influence decisions will actually know what they're doing or talking about, and money talks louder than reason.

>> No.27820306

>>27819110
They are both black companies, Holos just make way more money or they would be leaving in the same amounts.

>> No.27820350

>>27812573
Aqua also one time vented in a member stream that Cover was internally trying to break apart friendships inside Hololive for a while. Likely hinting at why she was being so distant with Coco after the chinkening.
It's a shame that people care more about the company than the talents. EN was a mistake, /v/ getting into vtubers was a mistake.

>> No.27820361

>>27819561
nah that anon got one thing wrong, but at least he owned up to it and that's more than the vast majority on this site would do. he was spot on with everything else.
that anon's text was also much easier to read than yours, so to say yours was better is a stretch when you just took what someone else >>27817956 in the thread said. sorry bub.

>> No.27820374

>>27820225
What the fuck are you talking about? It had nothing to do with Nene underperforming. Her entire gen was getting their 3D, but she was excluded and that had nothing to do with her performance. This was Cover's incompetence

>> No.27820433

Just watch Vshojo! Enjoy their wonderful content, full of freedom!

>> No.27820452

>>27820146
I agree it's utterly pathetic and a big sign of severe mental illness. But the ones defending Cover manage to be even worse, trading mental illness for corporate cocksucking which is a greater sin in my opinion.

>> No.27820546

I fucking hate vtubers for introducing the term "black company" to EOPs, I have never seen anyone saying that shit in real life.
All the people saying that said no matter what company they are talking about should be fucking murdered

>> No.27820560

>>27820306
If that's the case, explain why the majority of their members don't have a second channel as a safety net, despite them not having an exclusivity clause and a couple of them literally making more money outside hololive than in already

>> No.27820612

>>27820433
Will do. Thanks.

>> No.27820635

>>27818310

>The girls do the majority of the work in creating the characters lore, personality and content therefore they should have some rights in regards to the character. That's how it works in other industries.

NTA, but that's an entirely retarded misinterpretation of IP. Imagine thinking an actor has ownership of the IP of the roles they're hired to play. Johnny Depp has no legal ownership of Jack Sparrow despite doing a lot more for that role than the original creators did.

Didn't bother to read the rest of your post with such a stupid opening statement.

>> No.27820658

>>27820560
Fans sperg out and make rumors if they do that. Have you ever seen /hlg/? They thought one of them would quit because she tweeted about her lunch.

>> No.27820689

>>27812364
>Canceled Gura's birthday plans she worked on for months at the last second for absolutely no reason
>Lied to her, telling her it was illegal to get a daki
Kill yourself shill

>> No.27820765

>>27812364
>Maintains complete ownership over all Holo intellectual property meaning the talents have no essentially no rights over their own characters.
how is this any different than any other voice acted anime character?

>> No.27820787

>>27820658
That's one schizo on /jp/
How many people in the hololive fanbase do you see complaining about Noel or Mel

>> No.27820823

Cover interns working fucking overtime today, it seems.

>> No.27820902

>>27820765
If you can't see the difference between someone being themselves with an animated avatar and someone reading off of a script while portraying a fictitious personality, I don't know what to tell you

>> No.27820904

>>27820823
I don't think they're the ones posting their greatest hits compilation of rrats from 2020 on cooldown everywhere anon

>> No.27820963

>>27820823
Seems only fair considering how much Vshojo and Niji interns have been working overtime the past few days. Cover needs to fire back a bit.

>> No.27820991

>>27820823
They wish they were working for Cover.

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this thread in a nutshell

>> No.27821091

>>27821002
>valid criticism
>almost everything anti-Cover in this thread is either outright false or misleading
ok vshojo/niji intern

>> No.27821106

>>27820823
>thread full of lies and misinformation
>s-stop correcting my lies, if you don't stop i'll call you a cover intern
pathetic

>> No.27821108

>>27820902
script or no, said character does not belong to the voice actor

if you cant see the difference between an owned IP and someone voicing/renting then i dont know how much simpler to put it

>> No.27821129

>>27812364
Is this the Nijiseething general in disguise? Is this a new way to have the mods not ban the thread in sight? Gj, op you can actually see them fuming and seething happily contained

>> No.27821160

>>27820963
No, all the people posting things that were word for word the same as vshojo's marketing powerpoints everywhere were totally organic

>> No.27821214

>>27821129
rent free

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>>27820350
The issue with EN is it allowed Cover to hide behind them like a shield. This is pure rrat but let's look at a world where EN never was introduced.
>Aloe just graduated but the door was open for her she also has a large Chinese fanbase do to the events that happened after she graduated
>Gen 5 was becoming a flop
>Towa's yab was still fresh in everyone's minds
>the Taiwan yab was around the corner
>there is no EN about to bring in the US market an all that fucking money


Well now the Taiwan yab happened and Cover is forced to bend the knee. They are forced to make a money decision and side with China. Perhaps they go and try to bring Aloe back not because THEY FEEL SO BAD ABOUT EVERYTHING but because the Chinese love her and see her as a fallen martyr to the evil Japanese. Of course this might depend on what happens with Coco and Hacchama knowing Delta she might flat out tell Cover to piss off because of how they treated them. Cover can't just cut off CN because they have no back up leaving Vtubing to fall into total Chinese control.

I mean Vshoujo probably still forms and Kson is probably welcomed with open arms but yeah. On the bright side we would get Rosalyn's second outfit.

>> No.27821367

>>27812397
rrat

>> No.27821443

You'd think the holokeks are discordfags for replying en masse in the same way but they're actually literal drones. I genuinely feel bad seeing how you niggers dicksuck a faceless entity that mistreats your talents. No wonder the rest of the board calls you bronies, you're insufferable.

>> No.27821445

>>27812364
OP you're correct and on to something very big but luciferian demon janny will most likely nuke the thread before you follow the end of the lead, like he did the last thread which led me to figure out what was going on.

>> No.27821459

why so much hololive hate threads recently?

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>>27812364
Faggot

>> No.27821509

>>27820902
Why would a talent own the IP that the company created and bankrolled? The talents play it up and are the personality behind the avatar, yeah, but the company still owns the IP regardless. You might not like it, but that's how it is.

>> No.27821513

Itt. Niniseething and blatant cover anti, the new nijishill mods won't delete it, but they delete anti-niji or anti-vshojo posts on sight.
I miss old 4chan where corpos didn't had any kind of power and the retarded shills like the ones in this thread were btfoe'd on sight

>> No.27821538

>>27821459
A new narrative popped that Cover forced Kanata to move away from kson because she joined Vshojo.

>> No.27821540

>>27820787
>there is only one schizo in the vtuber fanbase
Sorry but that is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this website.

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>>27821459

>> No.27821572

Why are vshojo troons like this?

>> No.27821606

>>27821459
Kson joined VShojo and Kanata moved out. Anti-Cover and anti-Hololive schizos saw this as a prime time to jump out of their holes and start shitting up the board with schizo rrats such as Cover forcing Kanata to move out, and shitposting galore ensued as a result.

>> No.27821666

>>27821513
>holofag crying about biased moderation
The fucking irony. Please shut up you clown.

>> No.27821730

>>27821459
>>27821538
>>27821606
This and the new Nijijanny that deletes all the other threads and leave these up, I never thought that I'd say this, but I miss Deadcuckjanny

>> No.27821757
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I absolutely despise Cover as a company and all the dogshit decisions they have made for their talents and all the reddit tier wholesome 100 pandering Yagoo gets

BUT

I still have more respect for Cover then I do for any Vwhorejo member, so I'm siding with the Black Company here.

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>>27821459

>> No.27821898

>>27821459
Because the Kanata/Kson split broke the illusion for some and is good ammo for shitposters.

AND YET NO ONE IS ASKING WHERE SUISEI IS GOING TO LIVE AFTER AUGUST! WHAT ABOUT SUISEI!

>>27821786
>keep spamming Mori's tiktok
Perhaps we judged you too harshly Nijisisters...

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>>27821786
nice edit holoturd

>> No.27822032

>>27821950
nice twitter meme tranny

>> No.27822049

>>27821443
Threads like this are just doing the same thing in the other direction though, it's pure console wars
If you don't like what they're doing just don't fucking watch them, it's that simple

>> No.27822069

>>27821538
it is very obvious to anyone who isnt blind that cover forced it. especially after pulling her into an emergency meeting hours after kson joined vshojo

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>>27821898
Suisei...

>> No.27822212

>>27822144
>>27822144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rWsYPv7TsM
SHE HAS NO PLACE TO LIVE! AND SHE IS WAY TO EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF BEING HOMELESS!

>> No.27822234

>>27822069
Kanata literally said the opposite
It's literally only this board that's running with the "Cover forced her to move" rrat, not even the fucking matomes think that, which tells you everything you need to know about how retarded this is

>> No.27822318

>>27822234
>kanata was going to tell the truth about something which would paint cover in an extremely negative light
Holofags aren't the brightest

>> No.27822349

>>27822069
>the voices in his head told him this

>> No.27822397

>>27812364
You people really love the faceless company more than the girls. Cult behaviour.

>> No.27822423

>>27822234
your delusions aren't real

>> No.27822431

>>27822234
A company known for blacklisting and firing people for less tells you "you need to move, and you must tell everyone it was your choice or you're fired, losing everything you built over the last few years"

vs

"i'm suddenly scared about leaking things to someone who doesnt work at our company, whos a very close friend of mine, and this was never an issue over the last year"

think logically for a second and not with blind company loyalty

>> No.27822433

You faggots don't get to call others schizos after claiming rushia doxxed her coworkers for 4 months.

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>>27822212
She's the very cute girl who brought a doll with her to the USJ trip and talked to it and fed it in public so I can totally see her being excited over something like this, but why Suisei? Why?

>> No.27822549

>>27822318
She said almost a year ago she'd move out if she thought it was best for her career, this didn't come as a surprise to anyone who watches her
>>27822431
>A company known for blacklisting and firing people for less
Name one example
>tells you "you need to move,"
Not what happened, unless you're calling Kanata a liar

>> No.27822567

>>27819692
>>27819925
Nene was in a Chinese dress.
I thought she had the weakest initial outfit of her generation. Her current idol-like outfit is much better and suits her cute/lewd playfulness. Though she did feel left out for some time, it all worked out in the end.

>> No.27822580

I just don't believe of these are true. Japan might be a bubble, but EN girls talk to each other. If Cover was a shit company, more of them would leave. Gura could quit tomorrow, come back as Senzawa, and make bank. The fact that she doesn't makes me think these rumors don't hold much weight.

>> No.27822597

>>27822549
You cannot be this retarded

>> No.27822638

>>27822597
No examples then, ogey

>> No.27822640

>>27822515
I want this to be the counter shitpost.

"Alright we heard about X, but what about Suisei!"

>> No.27822721

>>27822567
That's gen 5 in a nutshell.
>circumstances outside their control screwed them over
>they overcame it
>shit sucks but it all worked out in the end
>they become stronger due to overcoming all those things

>> No.27822745

>>27822638
I understand you're trying to memory hole the examples we both know just like your company does, but please don't reply again if you're planning on continuing your larp as a negative iq seanigger

>> No.27822752

>27822580
They literally don't have to quit to have another channel, hololive has no exclusivity clause. This obviously puts down any argument that they're unhappy with their working arrangements and the schizos never have a counterargument to it

>> No.27822920

>>27822745
I would have no way of knowing the examples you're thinking of, because you dreamed them up due to being off your meds and they don't actually exist

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>>27812364
>>27812573
cover completely stood by coco despite her breaking contract, which was why chinks were mad for so long
everything you wrote is fanfiction

>> No.27823047

>>27822549
liar =/= forced to say something because your entire livelyhood was held over your head

kanata did nothing wrong, she was forced by cover

>> No.27823067

>>27822920
>can't even ask how new when they have been brought up in this very thread

>> No.27823248

>>27821786
very real post, I can't believe you hacked into anonymous's secret discord server.

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>>27822640
I'm gonna do it. Suisei's plight needs to become more widely known.

>> No.27823323

>>27823047
She was not forced to move, she chose to move because living with a facecam streamer was a risk to her career, a thing which she first brought up as a possibility literally the month Coco quit hololive

>> No.27823333

>>27822318
they're literally retards

>> No.27823403

>>27823323
Why did she wait a year to move away then retard?

>> No.27823510

>>27823403
um, uh, because um uh, because uh, reasons that have nothing to do with yagoo he's le epicly wholesome CEO!!11

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