Kanata was blackmailed by Cover and forced to live apart from Kson

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3kB6-FB7nY

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>>27781981
Based, Cover is smart.

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>red text black outline

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>>27781981

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>>27781981
go away shill

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Good. Its risky living with a camgirl that can easily be stalked.

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Man even for shills, linking to OtakMori is low effort. They should unironically dock your pay OP.

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>OtakMori
Fuck off.

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>>27781981
OP wasn't forced to suck cock but he still does every day

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>>27781981
>Otakmori clip
wtf op

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>>27781999
>Based, Cover is smart.
And Kson was even smarter to get out of there when she did on good terms.
She owns her own brand now and doesn't have to be scared of what Cover will do the way Kanata is.

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>forced
>two good friends mutually agreed that this was the best course of action for both their careers

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>>27781981

>OP is OtakMori

I'm not gonna watch your faggot clip, FAGGOT!

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>>27782207
>>two good friends mutually agreed that this was the best course of action for both their careers
Why was this best for Kanata's career? Does she care what Kson does in her streaming? She doesn't. That wasn't the issue, it was her black company.

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>>27782256
Uh oh, did my rrat conflict with your rrat and upset you? I'm sowwy bee-bee boo-boo.

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>forced
please kill yourself chink

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>>27782278
Wah wah deflect when you can't answer the valid question. Pathetic of you really.

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>>27781981
Good

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>>27782313
Made-up nonsense is a valid question now? Sounds like you're trying to drum up drama to fill the hole in your empty life.

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If Kson really cared about Kanata like she claimed she wouldn’t have abandoned her for her whores.

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>>27782347
>Made-up nonsense
Explain what was the real risk aversion here then please. Your explanation before was pretty shit so you need to come up with something a little better next time.

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>>27782370
When I said "made-up nonsense", that was a declaration of fact, because your original post was, indeed, made-up nonsense. It's pretty simple: either you know the truth or you made it up. There's no inbetween, Scooter.

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>>27781981
>Kanata was blackmailed by Cover
It's over OtakMori we told you not to click bait but now you've left another paper trail with false accusations and liable in it, you're fucked now i'm sending this to Cover

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stop posting your fucking clips here

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>>27781981
fuck off otakfag

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>>27781981
Cover executives always hated Coco. When they found out that she joined a rival group they gave her best friend and ultimatum just to spite her.

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>>27782167
Self shilling clipper are shit

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>>27781981
I didn't check out the link, but
>otakmori

shillfags are literally poorer than /jp/ shitposters, buy a add faggot.

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>>27782369
Holobronies call everyone a cuck fif their oshi even knows males exist. But meanwhile they're cucked enough to believe you should entrernally remain supserviant to a company just because you have a friend that works there.

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>>27781981
>otakmori
Get that shit out of here

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>>27782680
>still seething at Hololive
embarrassing

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>>27782191
now show me kson holofes 3 webm

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>>27782680
>supserviant
You are beholden to your boss as a result of signing a contract. It’s a form of subservience, yes, but not a total overtaking of your existence. If you don’t want to work under such conditions, you can leave under practically all normal circumstances.

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>Otakmori

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>>27782256
NTA. Let's set the base scenario first and then we can get to the nitty gritty:
Do you believe that kson broke her own NDA and told Kanata that she was joining Vshojo months ago? Forcing her friend to keep that a secret to not get kson in trouble while risking her own job if she got exposed for knowing about a massive security risk and not reporting it?

Or:

Do you believe kson kept it a secret that she was joining a rival company? Thereby causing a conflict of interest where she now has a financial incentive to leak any information she gets from Kanata to Vshojo for months until the announcement goes public?

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>>27782680
Salty, I like it.

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RED TEXT

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>>27781981
Maybe Kson should have thinked it fully, before joining another corpo, when some retard talked shit about "an all out war" month ago.

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RED TEXT
BLACK OUTLINE

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>>27783103
Didn't kson have some kinda sprge out on Twitter and on a members post? I think it was more of a secret because if kanata already knew she would have been out sooner

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Why didn't Kanata just resigned from Cover and joined Vshojo if living with kson is more important to her?
What does she have to lose? Her music career? 3 solo songs, 2 Kanatowa songs, 1 Gen4 song, 1 hololive idol project song. That's it?
Even Towa has more than this. Towa even has an EP.
Kanata is stuck at being an utaite. She seems satisfied with just covering songs. She can still do that if she joins Vshojo.
How many non-hololive music events has she participated in? I can only think of V-Carnival. Let's also include VARK.
Considering Vshojo joined Vills 3, Kanata has a higher chance of being sent to music events if she joins Vshojo. How many of Vshojo can actually perform on stage?
Kanata has nothing to lose if she joins Vshojo.

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>>27783103
What kind of drugs do you need to be on to believe there is a hidden underworld of vtuber corporate espionage?

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>>27783103
>my friend and I work at mcDonalds
>tomorrow he shows up and has a new job at KFC
>This could be a security risk for McDonalds.

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>>27783557
kanata doesn't need any vtrash company
she's perfectly happy in Hololive
fuck off

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/vt/ fears the Red Tex Black Outline Chad.

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>>27781981
>the blackest of chuubas companies

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Heimins, your half deaf Oshi will be living alone, and one day, when she is walking back from the convince store, while crossing the street she won't hear a car approaching from the left side.

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Kson joined a rival company so Kanata living with her is a massive security risk for both of them. If any information from Hololive gets leaked, the public will immediately assume it is the talent "sleeping with the enemy". The same applies in reverse if Vshojo information gets leaked. The assumption is either they intentionally shared the information or they accidentally left it in a location where their rooommate (the other party) could easily find it. Even something as simple as knowing when the other goes out for recordings gives you ideas to when the other company is planning to release things. There is also an incredibly small, but non-zero, chance that one could sabotage another's livestream by shouting Taiwan or fucking around with a webcam. So any tech issues will be blamed on the roommate. Neither friend should want the other to be in that sort of risky situation, and frankly if either of them attempted to fight to stay together I would suspect they intended to be a corporate spy. It's highly likely that emergency meeting lasted so long because they had to run through a list of everything that kson could have possibly found out from Kanata and sold to Vshojo.

>>27783389
Yeah she seemed really upset about her moving out.

>>27783585
I live in a world where vtubing is an industry worth hundreds of millions of dollars. If you believe suits aren't getting up to shady shit when that much money is on the table then I envy your naivety.

>>27783643
If you have any knowledge of mcdonald's upcoming plans for new menu items or other juicy shit then, yeah it sure fucking is.

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>>27783389
Cover forced her to move as soon as they found out about it. Kson got mad after the emergency meeting, and alluded to corpos being abusive to their talents and them unable to do anything about it.

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these analogies are so fucking bad You're not trying hard enough to defend this idolshit corpo

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>>27783772
>Even something as simple as knowing when the other goes out for recordings gives you ideas to when the other company is planning to release things.
Everyone knows when they record things, the Holos all post it publicly on twitter.

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Anyone who thinks Kson told Kanatan about her 11 million USD new start up with Mikeniko is retarded. She sprung this on her and she was a naive idiot trying to appease Cover by saying "we're not really a company."

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>>27783837
I will defend "idolshit" corpo and my idolfag oshi
keep seething zhang

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>>27783905
nice non-argument for someone who thinks people should beg for permissions anytime they make a video on anything. Going through actual brainrot to defend corpowhores

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its not fucking fair what happen to kanata

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>>27781981
based cover to do that

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>>27784179
Only Kson can be blamed for it. Cover didn't care about their living situation until it became a risk.

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reporting your shitty channel

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>>27781981
for once i agree with cover

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>>27784163
>muh permissions
You're such a fucking monkey
What will you do when nintendo copyright strikes VshojoJP members

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>>27781999
Fpbp. Fuck them lying hoes

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>>27784207
>Indie Kson good
>Not indie Kson bad
Nice friend Kanata is.

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>>27784179
>>27784207
Yes, blame Kanata's best friend, and continue to send Akasupas to the black company who forced her to move.

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>>27784207
agree, the fact that kson didn't even inform kanata before this shows how ridiculous she is

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>>27783643
As a burgerflipper or chicken flipper? Probably not a problem

As someone who works at McDonalds R&D and is aware of the recipie for this amazing new chicken burger they are about to add who then fucks off to KFC and gives them the info? Big problem.

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>>27782680
Remain subservient? No. Its entirely a decision for her and one she is free to make. On the flip side its her who lives with someone else who's life will be made 100% more complicated and stressful because of your decision.

Kson is the only one who is able to weigh up the pros and cons of her own decision. And her answer to said decision does not have to be liked or respected. People can criticize it. They cant criticize her freedom to make it but can have opinions on the outcome.

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>>27781981
Where's the blackmail part?

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>>27784207
This is coming only after the emergency meeting so this is 100% the fault of Cover.

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>>27784679
>Damn cover for looking out for their talents!
lol

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>>27784656
>Kson
>Able to think about others

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>>27784679
This coming only after kson specifically hid the information from Kanata and then ambushed both her and Cover with it, prompting this response?

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>>27783765
Are you joking or do you not realize we already went through that arc in like early 2021.
She gets hit by cars, gets covid, gets stuff stolen from her, gets heatstroke.
She is the struggler who always comes back.

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>>27783772
>If you have any knowledge of mcdonald's upcoming plans for new menu items or other juicy shit then, yeah it sure fucking is.
I burst out laughing at this

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>>27784812
>Kanata didn't know what her "family" was doing for the past 4 months
>Snuffy knew and was teasing it on discord
Choose one

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>>27781981
>We now have vshojo shills unironically linking otakamori
Infowars is a more reliable source than otakamori's "subtitles". I'm saying this completely unironically.

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i like how people are blaming Kson or Cover, when the one who made Cover do risk management was Rushia

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>>27784854
Someone in vShitshow told Snuffy about it and that wasnt communicated to Kanata? Can you try not being retarded for a change?

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>>27784823
I know, it was a reminder

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>>27784367
My Oshis can't have imaginary sex in my head now

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>Coco abandons Kanata by leaving Hololive, creating an empty void in tenshis streaming life and basically implying Coco is too good to work for the company her supposed bff works at
>"yeah! gooo coco! Kanata is a dumb idiot to be loyal to the company that changed her life for the better!"
>1 year later, Coco narcissistic tendencies reach the boiling point and believes she is entitled to more success than her mid tier channel is bringing in because she got a fat head from praise over the years
>Coco jeopardizes kanata's livlihood by agreeing to work for competitor agency that Japs know nothing about other than it appears they are trying to poach former, and maybe even current talent
>Kanata is the one that has to suffer again for Coco's shortsighted and selfish actions
She really does deserve better but of course EOPs are going to side with the reddit ESL

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>>27784899
vwhorejo cucks cannot even pretend to be intelligent because they don't even comprehend intelligence.

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Cover apologists havent been able to explain what the emergency meeting was about.

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>>27784656
This is the only sensible post in the thread.

Yes; kson has absolute freedom to do whatever the fuck she wants. No, that does not mean that that decision is somehow free from opinions and negative feedback. Ultimately, the ONLY person in this entire shitshow who had 100% objective oversight of everything regarding it and its potential benefits potential consequences is kson.

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>>27784943
Nice fanfic you have there.

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>>27784704
>forcing talents to move out of their house is taking care of them

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>>27784972
Reminder: Triangle told kson to fuck off.

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>>27784972
Sex date of YAGOO and Riku Tazumi.

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>>27784920
Kanata antis are fuckin weird.
Why do you think taking a hit from a car, going to the hospital and coming back 2 years ago is some kind of embarrassing own. I've seen someone use this before too.

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>>27784991
>forcing
rumao

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>>27784890
I'm pretty sure that this is indeed Kson's fault but you are on the right track. I'm willing to bet that Kson bringing Michael Cat to Vshojo JP is what caused all of this.

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Cant wait for kson and Veibei to compare the size and consistency of the discharge from their vaginas on stream desu senpai

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>>27784899
>it's so secret that Kson didn't tell her BEST FRIEND who she considers to be FAMILY
>random vtubers she never met knew
>Kson tells Ladybeard and some random indies she's soon having a redebut with new lore
I understand that you really want to believe that your brand didn't fuck over your oshi but that is exactly what happened.

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>>27784899
Everyone knew that Kson was joining, even some people /here/ clearly knew about it.

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>>27785051
Why wouldnt these "RANDOM VTUVERS xD" know? Clearly people at vShitshow were absolutely aware that kson was looking to join. I bet its been a topic of hot discussion and excitement in their internal discord. Any one of them could have mentioned it to Snuffy.

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>>27784943
>they are trying to poach former, and maybe even current talent
Poaching is good for talents. Cover is freaking out because the are afraid of having to treat their girls better.

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>>27785043
is it confirmed that mike is the 2nd jp tuber?

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>>27785113
Cover has poached a number of talents though. Hardly anything new or exciting.

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The rrat people are pushing here relies on thinking that Kanata is both a liar, and a baby who can't make her own decisions about what's best for the career she wants. If that's what you think you don't care about her to begin with so why even get mad about it
It's only here, too, the JOP reaction is just "well of course, this makes sense" (and a bunch of matome posters shitting on kson)

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>>27785043
Hiring both Kson and Mike is what anyone would do since they were the top two earners on their previous company.

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>>27785137
That rrat is the only cope they have that doesnt portray kson in a horrible light so of course they are all in on it. She basically hid this from her best friend fullwell knowing the shitstorm it would cause

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>>27785051
Trying to get loyalist heimin to blindly attack Hololive will never work for you.

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>>27785181
What's your point?

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>>27785137
Kson's fanbase is treating Kanata like an accessory to Coco and cannot fathom that she has a will of her own.

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>>27785181
They were only the top earners of superchats, which are both not the largest revenue stream, and one that vshojo takes no cut of and therefore does not benefit from

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>>27785209
That VShojo would have tried to hire both of them even if they weren't friends.

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>>27785091
Exactly, everyone knew, including Kanata.
>>27785206
>blindly
She sounded the alarm, she couldn't even make up an excuse for the move on her own. Just don't say nobody warned you.

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>>27785181
Only kson retains any kind of earning potential. Michelneko is a busted flush. Sure she'll still have a few paypigs but she will never be able to reach the heights of Rushia again. And that will boil down simply to her new model being dogshit compared to Rushia even before you take into account a large section of paypiggies never coming back due to broken trust.

And Coco's appeal was that she was the "edgy" character in a company of relatively straight laced people. A dorky provacteur who kept things unpredictable. This aspect will simply not exist in vShoujo. I think its highly unlikely she will have anywhere near the growth she once had.

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>>27785294
No they wouldn't. Kson's the one that brought her in. Vshojo had no in with Mike.

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>>27785137
She said she was moving suddenly after having an emergency meeting with management. That's clearly the catalyst.

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>>27785309
Kanata didnt know. She would have informed cover if she did and this decision would have been taken months ago

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>>27785309
No "excuse" is necessary, she takes the idol business and hololive seriously enough that she'd already said she'd move out if it was necessary. It's why JOPs aren't surprised at all
You'd know this if you'd watched her

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>>27785267
Superchats doesn't necessarily translate to merch sales, but it's safe to assume they also had strong merch sales. More importantly though, what really matters is the clout, since what VShojo really wants is investor support, and having the two girls that are still the top SC earners in the world looks impressive.

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>>27785309
So, you are trying to argue that it was Kanata who hid this info from cover after being told by kson? That she was somehow covering for kson despite there being absolutely no consequences for kson if this info reached cover and only practical consequences for Kanata? What would Kanata have gained from keeping this info to herself?

Your rrat needs feeding, anon. Its weak as fuck

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>>27785355
She said it was her decision because it was the safest option even though it wasn't strictly required
So either this "cover forced her" thing is bullshit or you're calling her a liar

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>>27783772
This is close to the truth, I think.

When Kson said she wants to alter the current status quo on the VTuber world in Japan, I won't surprised if some of the upper management in Cover interprets it as a kind of declaration of war. You'll have to take several steps when there's a new rival company that has good backing in terms of capital and got people like Kson as the foundation of this company branch in JP. Anyone who expect Cover to just surrender to VShojo JP is either naive or stubborn.

It's just reality to corporation world and it's still can be tolerated, even sensible.

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>>27785349
Yeah they didn't wanted one of the top talents in the entire bloody industry.

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>>27785514
>Michalneko
>top talent
rumao

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>>27785514
You really need to learn to read.

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>>27785440
Let's not kid ourselves, they hired them because picking up former hololive members would get them the most attention
This board has been nothing but people parroting what a huge win it is that they "poached" someone who quit a year ago and a menhera who got fired, so it worked

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>>27785476
She was clearly under pressure from the company. You still have to explain why this only happened after the emergency meeting.

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>>27785488
I highly doubt that Cover are all that concerned. Hell, they are probably happy that the vTuber scene still has capacity for growth that a whole new company can start and still make waves.

Again, as many have already said, I imagine that their discussions with Kanata were entirely practical rather than any kind of corpo war. The fact remains that this rival company has decided to hire someone who has leaked loads of shit to gossipmongers and who has no qualms throwing her former collegues under the bus. Who knows what else she is happy to leak and to whom. With someone like that now being close again to one of your talents, treating it with an abundance of caution is simply smart buisness.

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>>27785578
It's a good thing that Cover interfered. Imagine trusting a traitor like Kson

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>>27785391
>The company who abused my oshi's best friend would never abuse my oshi as well! It must be her best friend that fucked her over! That best friend sounding the alarm in a member post isn't real!
This is just sad, anon.
>>27785456
>So, you are trying to argue that it was Kanata who hid this info from cover after being told by kson?
Uh yes? Why the fuck would she tell her boss that her roommate who has nothing to do with Cover got a new job lol. It's none of their business, as you know, Cover said they stay out of their talents private lives.
>>27785476
>She said it was her decision because it was the safest option even though it wasn't strictly required
It wasn't strictly required but she would get the Coco treatment if she said no. No more Hologra, no more main channel appearances, less collab freedom, etc., and that would upset the fans. Like her roommate said, the fans are hostages.

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>>27781981
>>27781981
moment the leech begins to lose hearing in the right ear, she will crawl back, don't worry

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>>27785488
The idea of corporate spies sounds dramatic but it's actually a real concern. Although, she is not gonna stop being friends with Kson, and chuubas from different companies know each other, so leaks could always happen.

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>>27785014
>is some kind of embarrassing own
chinks don't understand what being human is.
anything that's not buglike NPC robot behavior to them is fantasy and looks strange so they laugh at it because they can't understand it

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>>27785641
This. The issue isnt kson, even though the way she went about announcing this was furtive and sneaky to say the least. The actual issue is Mikeneko.

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>>27785663
Coco deserved to be mistreated for being dumb and disobedient

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>>27781981
based Kanata
took her long enough to understand that Kson not just a little mentally ill but completely brain dead

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>>27785663
>all these mental gymnastics
>to avoid the obvious situation that Kanata didnt know
Your poor rrat is on death's door, anon

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>>27785737
>>27785051

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>>27785532
If you check playboard she is still the number one super chatted in the entire fucking world. Not just for VTubers, but for all YouTube channels. You show that to an investor and he would throw money at you.

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>>27785663
kson trying to deflect the sad but obvious consquences of her actions onto the "fans losing out" is a Gold in the Mental Gymnastics competion

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>>27785657
She left the company a year ago.

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>>27785542
Going by that post, he needs to learn English, too

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>>27785767
Rushia made money, Mikeneko is a nobody

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>>27785809
And hired an NDA braker

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>>27785776
You're arguing that Kanata doesn't care about her fans.

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>>27783905
you will never be japanese

you will never be able to speak japanese

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>>27785767
Sure. That was then. This is now. Williams used to be a powerhouse in Formula 1 and has won more world championships than most of the newer teams put together but now its squarely at the back; has been for years and is unlikely to ever be competitive again. Times and reputations change. Building your foundations on past success is like building in quicksand if you also dont exactly mirror the precise situations and circumstances that led to the original success in the first place. Even then, people might just think "this is just as good as before but the magic has gone"

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>>27781981
since K kun join vshojouu, she will bring her boyfriend to off collabs stream in her house and gorilla didnt want any rumors spread, smart move

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>>27785488
That's a fair assessment. My view is based on the assumption that Cover is a realist who wanted to protect its assets and defend its position as one of several big VTuber companies in Japan. Though, I have to admit that I forgot Mike Cat as a time bomb to Cover.

>>27785690
I'm aware of corporate espionage, too. That's why I assume that Cover is a realistic company. As long as Kanata still maintain their relationship with Friend C and stay professional at the same time, then all of those rrats aren't necessary.

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>>27783643
Incomparable. A normal employee at McDonald's isn't as important to the company as a talent. If a high level executive of McDonald's lived in the same house as a high level KFC executive you can bet your ass there'd be trouble.

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>>27785911
Nah, Kanata took action as soon as she became aware. Kanata is based but it does suck that she was put in this position in the first place

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>>27785663
>less collab freedom
Cover never had any power over HoloJP inner collabs. It's not like Kanata was looking forward to collabing with EN, ID or VShojo for that matter. Are you saying other girls will shun Kanata because she isn't obedient or something?
And you are dumb. If something upsets the fans, Cover will take damage from it. For a company thrived by remaining in fans' good wills, that'd be suiciding.

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>>27785641
The reply should be on >>27785932
The first one. Wrong reference lmao

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>>27785932
>I'm aware of corporate espionage, too. That's why I assume that Cover is a realistic company. As long as Kanata still maintain their relationship with Friend C and stay professional at the same time, then all of those rrats aren't necessary.
I doubt any of this would be necessary and wouldn't even have happened if mikecat wasn't also brought on by Kson. She really did not think that through.

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>>27785978
>Are you saying other girls will shun Kanata because she isn't obedient or something?
Yes, and the fans will cheer them on due to brand loyalty. It's literally happening in this thread, they're happy Cover kicked her out of her house with her best friend because muh brand must be right.

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>>27785978
> They just ban collab with Coco until she graduated

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>>27786052
Don't point out their hypocrisy, you are spoiling the fun....

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>>27786052
U mad?

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I trust Kanatan more than some salty vtrashfags
The reason's she laid out for moving are perfectly reasonable, she even said that she gave it a lot of thought and done it just to be safe rather than sorry
stupid antis attacking Kanatan have no shame

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>>27786002
The real threat is Mikecat, then. Though, I still stand by my view that Kson can be viewed as a potential threat with her vow about the indie-corpo line in the VTuber business.

Mikecat is the one who unironically needs to go outside and touch the grass.

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>>27786052
Yes , we love brand not talents inside.
Who fucking care about VA of anime charecters?

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>>27786175
Attacking kson is good though?

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>>27786052
Nobody told Kson to put others in danger

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>>27786249
Absolutely. This shitshow is on her.

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>>27786249
Yes, someone should Abe'd her

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>>27786249
Yes, we not care and we will attack her until she stop streamimg. She join Vshojo after all.

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>>27786249
heimin aren't attacking anyone

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>>27786249
Blood for Yagoo god
Skull for us Holobronies

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>>27786327
This unironically

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>>27781981
>Rent free.

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>>27786052
>It's literally happening in this thread, they're happy Cover kicked her out of her house with her best friend because muh brand must be right.
Yeah, no, Kanata made the decision by herself with Cover's advices at most. If you have irrefutable proofs, I will shit on Cover. Otherwise, I'm going to trust Kanata.
Similarly, the fans will shit on Cover if it's undeniably their faults. Heck, sometimes they even shat on Cover when it's not even their faults (i.e: how Micheal Cat was fired)

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>>27781981
>otakmori
kys

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>>27786410
Fuck you, I just shitpost

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>>27786460
I agree with your shitpost and you can't stop me

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>>27786285
Why did you think Cover tell Kanata to move out? They clearly are going to hire some Chink hitman to Kyoani that entire condo

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>>27781981
>>27782256
More like Cover is smart. Of course they wouldn't want Kanata to continue living in one place with a now vshojo slut that will frequently have random vshojo staff or ecelebs / men from the vshojo circle over for work or offcollab reasons
That's a major doxx threat.

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People keep calling out when anons say it was forced. You dont need to have a gun pointed at you when someone asks you to do something for it to be forced. The power dynamic between cover and kanata is enough for it to be "forced".

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thread is too stupid.

ppl forget Suisei + sister moved away from them early this year

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>>27786553
But she says it wasn't forced. Are you calling her a liar?

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>>27786525
I will eternally kneel to God Tanigo-san if this happens

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>>27786052
You are legit mentally ill. What legal power do you think cover has that can tell them where she can live?

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>otakmori

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>>27786052
I'm happy because it means she won't get doxxed by kson's vshojo friends

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>>27786788
The people complaining about this never watched hololive so they don't know any better

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>>27781981
>otakmori

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>>27786643
NDA and take Kanataso as hostage of course.

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>>27786553
With that kind of logic, you might as well say that following your higherups instructions in a company means you are being forced against your will. No one with a brain would say so - context matters.
If Kanata does NOT want to move out even after listening to her management, and Cover told her to either move or be punished - that'd be forcing her. However, if Cover just - like Kanata said - explained the risks to her and ask her to move out (i.e: "In the future, there might be conflicts of interests. Other members and fans might doubt your loyalty. It will put both you and us, maybe Coco too, in a difficult position. So... can you consider moving out, just to be safe?") and Kanata accepted that, it'd be her own decision.

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>>27787017
Not even just doxxing.
She doesn't want some guy manager to open her door while she's streaming or something stupid.

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man, this whole thread is literally hypocrisy 101

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>>27786643
Cover own Kanata IP
They can treate to her whatever they want

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>>27787249
Then she should quit and join Kson if it bothers her.

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>>27787360
While I generally agree that this was probably more Kanata's decision than being forced by Cover... that's a bad argument.
She'd probably get sued into oblivion if she did that.

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>>27787360
it clearly doesn't, but we have to argue about adults who made their decisions, cause we think we own them.

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>>27787249
They can't fire her for living in a place they don't like dude.

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>>27785863
Americans believe in individual talent, something that's probably foreign to someone like you.

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>>27787360
Are you stupid? Holobronies will come after to hell if she join Kson and you know it.

> She is traitor ! She choose her friend more than loyalty to company!
> Leech Leech Leech and traitor!
> Let attack both of them until they break Holobronies!

Can you imagine?

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>>27787416
> just can't directly fire
> banishment room

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>>27785899
Not like they would care. Also, who do you think they are gonna believe? The cute and talented Japanese woman that says she was bullied by management, or the evil and sexist company that fired her for having a boyfriend? Remember their investors are mostly from California.

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>>27787469
Michael Cat is not talented and wasn't as Rushia either. She is, however, parasocial with her chat and menhera which is perfect for a manipulative cunt.

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>>27785915
Rushia was at the top of the world a few months ago.

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>>27787589
>the evil and sexist company that fired her for having a boyfriend
Reminder that this didn't happen and they even publicly defended her having one and said they don't give a shit what their talents do in their private life.

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>>27787520
you can twist it in the other way, and place there Coco/Kson and will be literally the same thing
One true god for hololive fans is the brand, they are epitome of this image

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>>27787617
Playboard says otherwise and metrics are everything to investors. Alternatively, manipulating people is a talent.

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>>27787638
Did you not read the post, you dumb fuck?

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>>27787799
Being a woman is not a talent

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>>27787360
It doesn't, she loves Hololive and told kson "no" when she asked her to join her.

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>>27787520
All of these threads are people shitting on her for choosing the opposite so I guess vshojobronies are a thing now

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>>27786249
Deserve every bit of hate she get for being a short sighted and selfish prick

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>>27787799
NTA and I don't have any beef against Rushia, but if you are talking about sponsors and investors, SC is likely one of the last metrics they care about. Leaving asides more important metrics that we don't have access to (i.e: retention rate, engagement rate, CTR, etc.), even CCV and VOD Views are way more important to investors / sponsors. That's why Pekora, Aqua and Marine are that big in HoloJP (to lesser extents, not in any order, Sui, Fubuki, Lamy, Subaru, etc.), and Gura in HoloEN.

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>>27787188
She has had the same (MILF) manager for a year

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>>27787799
>She have the right personality and mental ill to abuse other mentaly ill people
>no youre wrong, according to this site, she have the talent to abuse mentaly ill people and make money
This thread feel like a fever dream.

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>>27786052
It’s called battered woman syndrome, all of them will side with Cover over their oshi until she graduates, that’s when their opinions change and stop drinking the retard juice.

It’s like lying to yourself to make the best out of a shitty situation.

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>>27782482
You won't do shit and neither will cover. Eat shit retard

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>>27782729
This is coming from the holofag seething at kson for joining vshithojo the rent free actually applies to you too faggot.

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>>27787672
People will believe what they want to believe.

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>>27788794
In all fairness i can guarantee you most people defending cover aren't even fans of kanata lmao they're just adding to the bullshit because they have absolutely nothing better to do.

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>>27787875
That's what a talentless collection of holes would say.

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>>27788794
>lying to yourself
people are literally just believing the words that came directly out of kanata's mouth anon

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It's pretty apparent based on Kson's behavior & recent history as an indie that she wasn't actually hired for her vtubing aspects, but rather in order to specifically build out the JP branch, being a direct competitor in the JP space and poaching talent. You should view her as a member of VSj management rather than a talent at this point. I would not be surprised if they are actively trying to poach a Niji as we speak who can act as a link into poaching more talent from them as well as Holo. Cover understands all this, and so applied a little pressure on Kanata to encourage her to move out.

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>>27788761
Funny part is that Wall Street also works like that.

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>>27789194
> Kson
> poaching talent?

Are you stupid?

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>>27789155
She literally had no reason to move and couldn't explain why she was doing it, a random guy in chat came up with something and she said "oh yea it's for that reason". That's literally the same way Coco came up with "creative differences" when she got forced out. It's clear as day what really happened.

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>>27789883
Clearly you don't know how poaching works. You need an in to poach. I have seen it happen IRL many times, and Kson is basically following the playbook. Hiring Mike specifically is a calculated decision of "we don't care on how bad terms you leave, we will take you as long as you are popular" to people at other corps. The fact that poaching & direct hiring competition will be their primary source for people is obvious from VSj's signing MO so far - they do not work like Cover or Niji and are unironically less open opportunity to 2views.

Note that I'm not making a judgement on whether all this is good for talents or not. Purely from a business perspective.

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>>27790032
>I can't really think of the right words to explain it
>risk management?
>yeah that's the right way to phrase it
You're disingenuous

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>>27790032
either take meds or kill yourself faggot
you don't even watch her

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>>27790032
She said months ago that she would move out if it became necessary for the safety of her idol career, because there were already concerns about kson being a cam streamer
She said in that stream that she was moving out because it was necessary for the safety of her idol career
There's no ambiguity here if you actually watch her, that's why JOPs aren't reacting to this news at all

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All of the discourse around kson/vshojo reeks of retarded NEETs who have never held a job in any competitive or skilled field.
Newsflash: These are all standard practices in the real job world.

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>>27789155
The one where she couldn’t even come up with a term for why Cover asked her to move out until someone in the chat said risk aversion?

Don’t get me wrong if i was in Kanata’s shoes i would do the same, she has seen first hard how little Cover cares about their talents, after all she was the one who had to kick open Coco’s door to end a stream where she was crying because Cover’s management gave moderation rights to her spammers.

If Cover suggest you to jump you better try to fly, last thing you’d want is give Cover an excuse to overreact and destroy your career.

So in the end, Cover is based for threatening someone to move out or accept whatever bullshit they could come up to punish her in the future and everyone would have done the same, that’s how power dynamics work, especially in Japan.

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>>27786547
it's more than a "dox" thread. coco removed the last remnant of avoidance of being seen in public and followed.

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>>27790201
The fact it's pretty standard stuff is precisely why people are shitting on kson. Anyone with a brain could've seen this coming, so it just comes across as selfish at worst, stupid at best.