/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive wouldn't even let Pomu call Kiara on her birthday callins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>Source: I made it the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>pretending to be friends on twitter.
Already dropping Ame, I see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>An all out whore who declared an all out war
Understandable

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>Source

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655560
>>27655721
I mean, it’s just common sense. Not really that difficult to comprehend imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
whores of a feather

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655721
Blinding my sight in a curtain of red

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Just keeping bad influence away from the chimkin, pls undastand. Or she might return to her whorish behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655560
>>27655721
Why do holokeks get so defensive over this? Cover blocking it is straightforward logic, Anycolor blocking it requires schizo delusions about chink investors and Anycolor deliberately blocking their talent's exposure to 10s of thousands of new viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Good

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Good stay far away bomu whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
/b/omu is like a whore, ALL OUT NIPPLES!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463

[Anonymous No.]

Keep nudist nympho sluts away from my holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
Its a known fact that both sides block the stream interactions with each other

[Anonymous No.]

Is /vt/ the only place that talks about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
Moooods, the zhang is gaslighting us agaiiiin

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>totally made up
It is weird, though, right?

[Anonymous No.]

She's only going to call in for her REAL oshi next week

[Anonymous No.]

>>27657809
Yes the dramafag board is the only place that obsesses over this retard """""""""""""""""drama"""""""""""""""""

[Anonymous No.]

>>27657809
Kiara's chat seems to care about it. A bunch of people kept spamming they thought the egg in the dancing stream was Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
Because an id en collab got block and there is no way Holoen has the power to do that or that Maid-chan would listen.

[Anonymous No.]

Even if it was true that Cover said no, that’s still fine with me.

[Anonymous No.]

All out whore

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry /b/omu kiara will collab with ironmouse first

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
A HoloID Collab with NijiEN got blocked and that sure as shit isn't HoloID's management doing that considering they Collab and talk with goddamn everyone including Nijis from other branches and Fleshtubers. It's either NijiEN blocking Collabs or HoloEN management somehow having authority over ID branch management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
remember selen ollie collab?
Holo ID is well known for their collab with a lot of people and yet it was cancelled...whose decision do you think it was?
atleast use your brain if you want to defend them kek

[Anonymous No.]

Lole
>LOOK AT US WE INTERACT TWITTER LE WHOLE TIME WE FRIENDS NOTHING ELSE

>LE UNITY HOLY BROS AMIRITE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660577
Did Nijisanji hire people straight out of /#/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>Hololive
it's Nijisanji who forbid the collabs. Why do you think they forced everyone in NijiEN to unfollow kson?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
Like everyone else said, the Ollie Selen collab got blocked and we know from experience that HoloID literally does not give a SINGLE SHIT about what Ollie does or who she collabs with.
The NijiCN Chinese investor "theory" isn't even farfetched because almost all chinese gacha game devs blacklisted Cover and even released fucking press releases so I don't see why Nijisanji blacklisting EN to appease their Chinese investors would even be that unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660686
most of them browse /vt/ unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660740
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660444
>>27660740
This could be true, but then again, if they didn't want to offend chink investors, why are the JP sides allowed to collab then? It's not like NijiEN and NijiJP have different investors, it's all part of the same company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660311
IMO its Cover's overarching management having a hateboner for NijiEN or being weirdly possessive of HoloEN's particular spot in the vtuber sphere.
Plus nijisanji has zero collab problems outside of this, whereas HoloEN seems to have severe issues with getting collabs period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Good. Fuck Pomu and her shit company. Kiwawa can join them anytime and do her dances there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661014
You holotribalists have been fucking malded over everything ever since coco and rushia became american

[Anonymous No.]

Anon do you have object permanence issues? Do you think vtubers stop existing once they stop streaming? Do you think they haven't already talked in private? Why must it be public?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660577
Mysta doomposting at the end will never cease to make me laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Pomu is always welcome to leave the chink company, I'm sure Kiara will be allowed a nepotism hire.

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to thank nijiEN managers for keeping holoEN clean from nijiwhore/fags. You may work for the lesser company but your heart is in the right place. Yagoo will remember your great deeds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661237
Tribalism is good. That's how we keep Pomu and other scum out and also get rid of suicide carcasses and traitors. It's a good system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660950

Cover is paranoid with chink incident.

They don't want another yabai incident, specially if its triggered outside the holo sphere and it happens that a holomem is in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661792
Then why does Cover still allow HoloJP-NijiJP collabs, especially since the chink drama happened on the JP-side

[Anonymous No.]

You know I would have no Problem with the current state if they just came out with what the reasons are.
Just say it, everyone knows there is a issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661859

JP's are fine.

But the EN side is complete different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27659984
>Because an id en collab got block and there is no way Holoen has the power to do that
Do you understand the ID and EN are both part of the same company, and that someone manages them both? Retard

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people not realise how good Covers system is for the biggest company in business? Vtubing is still growing and bringing in schizos as talent and as audience. With Covers system you can always say "It wasn't any of us and we had nothing to do with it". And honestly, it's good for the audience too, to get away from the schizos of the world for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660864
Because NijiEN is the branch that has a ton of chink viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660577
i still dont understand why anyone thinks this is some crazy gotcha moment against niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661900
Kiara already said she wasnt allowed to collab with Pomu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
FOR THE LAST TIME
I'M GLAD HOLOEN DOESN'T COLLAB WITH NIJIEN
YOU STUPID BEGGAR NIGGER

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041

Well, it did set a big wall between NijiEN and HoloEN.

That image will continue to pop-up everywhere, it literally destroys the possibility of two EN branch collaboration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662067
Yes but WHY?
Hours before she said that Polka had a fucking 3D collab with a NijiJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662218
>it literally destroys the possibility of two EN branch collaboration
no it doesn't, it's some stupid words from retarded talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662235
There's a very simple answer to that
HoloEN dominate the EN vtuber space. NijiEN is their only competitor, but they're not as popular
Bang your braincells together and see if you can figure it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662252
Not to management or talent who cares about their image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662280
>Vshoujo isn't a competitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662286
vtubers are people in their early 20s. Management knows they're basically kids and they're going to say stupid shit. This is a lot more offensive to the viewers than it is to the people running these companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662316
It's not really, different platform, different style, different audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662218
>it literally destroys the possibility of two EN branch collaboration

are you retarded? no one outside of this board cares about this images existence. You have fooled yourself into thinking this matters more than it ever did to anyone actually involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27657809
No, reddit does too but they get deleted by the holomods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662320
We are talking about millions of subscribers, millions of views, millions of dollars. The viever is the one that matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662367
youtube and reddit people care lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662280
But that is the point, I want to hear that from Covers and/or Nijis mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662367

you can wait on a possibility of a EN branch collab on twitter or other social media.

and you'll see that some schizo's here will doom post that picture multiple times till the collaboration will be discarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662420
Like the other poster said, retardds on this board are the only people seething about this image. It's not a maintstream point of contention. Most viewers probably have no idea it happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
ain't it on nijisanji side? since they have a large chunk of chinese audience, they don't want their talent to go anything near to hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662448
You expect them to come out and express their less-than-positive intent towards another company for no reason? "Yeah we're not collabing with Niji because we want to squash the competition". Are you dumb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662462
Come the fuck on. Maybe leave this board sometimes. Just a little bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662541
What are you talking about? Is it making the rounds on Discord or something? You don't know how casual the engagement is of most people who watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662469
We'll see if this hypothesis is true now that kson, enemy of zhangs is in Vshojo. If all collabs are cut from now on, we'll know if that was the case in why they cant collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662469
No. The collab bans have existed way before the influx of chinese fujos. That's a new cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662619
Shu is collabing with ironmouse tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662619
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Based. Thank you Omega.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662619
Shu will be on Speak of the Devil later today, and Mysta is playing Forewarned with ironmouse on Saturday

[Anonymous No.]

>>27656215
>>27655463
>AIEEEEE HOLOFAGS TASUKETE!! COLLAB PURISU!! I-IT'S YOUR FAULT HER NUMBERS ARE SHIT!! REEEEEEE J-JUST COLLABO ONCE PURISU! S-SURE SHE WILL INCLINE

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662469
If there was worry, it would be from the few male livers that have a huge chinese audience, and who wouldn't be collabing with the holo girls anyway. Any collab ban has been going on way longer than any other "yab" anyone can bring up. But things also have not gotten worse since they can still interact on twitter, and can sometimes be mentioned in membership streams on both sides, so I wouldn't say there's been much impact at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662673
Kiara has been asking for this collab for ages

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN is literally 11 girls at the moment. So let us Hololive fans have them. You others have hundreds to choose from. Why are you so greedy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662013
That's retarded as fuck. This "ban" has been much before NijiEN had chinks which only happened in january

[Anonymous No.]

>>27659984
>>27660311
>>27660444
>>27660740
Selen was the one who announced that collab. If it had been shot down by NijiEN management she would have known first. It's way more likely that Cover upper management is trying to protect its hold on the EN viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu makes my oshi happy so I like pomu. It's that simple.

Plus, Pomu has been playing some MGS games and the streams are pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662735
why do you think this is a normal thing to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662893
Why wouldn't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662837
This. Also people who argue that ID collabs alot outside of Hololive leave out that NijiEN collabs with people from outside of Niji all the time. So you can twist that argument the other way around. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662915
lets just cross our fingers that your brand of retardation is terminal

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661956
Literally nobody believes there's a company-wide block you fucking tard, we know there isn't, it's the EN branches that have blocks. The debate is whether it's just one of them or both of them. EN and ID do not share management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662510
I dont expect it but it is what I would want

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
She did not even appear in her chat, anon. At least Millie is still miles better

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
because it confirms that many in NIjiEN are worse than your average /vt/ user when it comes to being tribalist faggots.
It should be obvious why that might sour relationships between other corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663089
>EN and ID do not share management.
You know how companies work? There's a hierarchy. EN and ID have their own managers, who in turn have their own managers. This is is as simple as the people at Cover saying "nobody collabs with NijiEN, from any branch"
How hard is that to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how kiara is going to get a mouse collab before bomu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663091
Why do you need them to confirm the obvious for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663089
While EN and ID don't share management, there is nothing stopping EN management from asking the JP higher-ups to prevent ID from collabing with EN's direct competitor. EN management can easily say that they want to protect the company from losing viewers to their competitor, and the JP higher-ups agreeing and forcing ID to not allow the collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Why are women so spineless? Just call in, they aren't going to fire you over it because it would be horrible press for the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663125
Not appearing in chat is a good thing. Don't want chat to be distracted from watching the 3D live

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663178
Pomu has collabed with ironmouse many times already

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663247
Maybe they want to have call ins in the future too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663339
What is management going to do? Take her discord away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663460
dock pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662967
Answer my question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663460
Ban future totsumachi streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Its funny how mouse can have kiara on her talkshow but pomu can’t collab with kiara at all, management’ at its finest

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663480
Literal black company policy.

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu is trying to find someone to leech off of so she went with the least popular myth girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663575
Retarded comment. If management was worried, they wouldn't be allowing Luxiem to be collabing with ironmouse both tomorrow and on Saturday. They wouldn't be worried about the girl who has probably the least amount of chink viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara may like Pomu but she doesn't like Pomu enough to throw away her Hololive career. Pomu won't make her merch, Pomu won't make her 3D concert...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Don't like it? Make your own vtuber company, Nazi

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662435
>Youtube
>All dramatubers said it was a nothingburger
>Reddit
>They talked about it for a day and said Fulgur said some dumb shit but that he wasn't entirely wrong when comparing Council to Myth
>4chan
>Posted whenever the opportunity arises as an attempt to gotcha
Yeah, tell me reddit and youtube care. Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663659
Whats happening on saturday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664458
Mysta playing Forewarned with ironmouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
>feels like an all out war
>they were mad about niji
>too scared to go to sleep
>having my hopes up applying for the first hololive audition
>hololive tech issues in shambles
Most of the shit/rrat threads here are just irony posts by bored schizo and larpers. The discord leak showed NijiEN are failed Holo applicants and let's Hololive live rent free which is what's always said about anti-Niji posts here proving they're just as bad if not worse than here. Potentially worse because we're just larping half the time trying to get rrats going while they're actual corpo talents with full rrat nests..

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663669
This. At this point I believe she just keeps milking it for profit, doubt she actually cares about collabing with Pomu that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
I don’t care who. I don’t care why. I just want my pomutori collab.
Simple as.

Reminder:
(only "important" interractions, most tweet/cute interractions skipped)
>First interactions Era: Pomu replies to Kiara's washing machine explosion and they talk about it
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1400864593719746562
https://files.catbox.moe/1me95f.png
one month later she replies to her again, no response
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1413562401518141442
>Kiara tweets waiting for Pomu after late to Karaoke after a month of no reply
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1419806052430893057
https://files.catbox.moe/79zqyy.png
>Kiara enters Pomu's stream Era
https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6493 (promises more Hello Project)
https://youtu.be/b9-iggvRWXw?t=15141
>She will visit me eventually
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=5876
https://youtu.be/LbyitrWHbU8?t=10229
>Kanauru Gingerbread Rap Era
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=4985
https://youtu.be/5N9YguERWJg?t=12064
https://youtu.be/Xefr784MCkM?t=5401
>Kiara talks about how Pomu was the first non-Holo to message her right after her outfit reveal failed
https://youtu.be/BGxGY2jl6dw?t=23146
>Pomu dedicates a song to a "certain someone" (obviously for Kiara upon her previous requests from the last karaoke)
https://youtu.be/mDH4PFbAsIo?t=4197
>Selen and Pomu watch Kanauru's video and mention Kiara
https://youtu.be/EzbO9N-hX7k?t=36240
>Kanauru makes a special video for Kiara and Pomu
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1486132264299687937
>Kiara says she may have donated "quite a lot" of money to Pomu for her outfit reveal. Also reads some DMs she sent to Pomu
https://youtu.be/Y-yIyl4FOaw?t=21020
https://youtu.be/AKAM_MSN-FY?t=11051
>Pomu watched Kiara’s performance at the 3rd fes
https://streamable.com/ja1svc
>Kiara karaoke request 2: Electric Boogaloo (keeps going after the song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKxcJf8jUEw&t=3162s
>Pomutori German lesson?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5Pbuj-aYQ&t=17119s
>Pomu liebt Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5Pbuj-aYQ&t=17297s
>Daki Arc
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517277004885811201
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517473295481798656
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1517572629615456256
>>4 mentions in 1 stream
Watches MGS streams: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=9063
Tingle is Pomu: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=11261
Sad Pomu: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=19118
Stuttering: https://youtu.be/_kYQNMryXFU?t=23285
>TLoZWW
Literally EVERY Kiara Wind Waker stream. Skip to when she goes to a fairy fountain/sees a fairy and Pomu will get mentionned.


Bonus:
>Pomu means chubby
https://streamable.com/4hb9xn
>Bringing idolculture into HoloEN and NijiEN
https://streamable.com/11pizq
>>Kiara singing Diamond City Lights (what Pomu references above)
https://youtu.be/S66mI7Sku74?t=496
>Selen tries to avoid mentionning KFP in her analogy
https://youtu.be/DeCK8I_GQ4U?t=3532
>Kiara clarifies Hololive collab permissions. Says there's "only one person" who she wants to collab with nowadays. (Doesn't mention Nijisanji collab perms at all but mentions indies' and VSJ's positively).
https://youtu.be/KXJmgwEz1kw?t=25084
>Jail Sex RP
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1495566161030823941
>Going to Austria
https://youtu.be/0O5q5zvjN88?t=5345
>"Only one person calls me Pomuranian"
https://youtu.be/0O5q5zvjN88?t=13862

>All Kiara twitter mentions to Pomu
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Atakanashikiara)%20(to%3Apomurainpuff)&src=typed_query
>All Pomu twitter mentions to Kiara
https://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Apomurainpuff)%20(to%3Atakanashikiara)&src=typed_query&f=top

Birthday Call-ins and/or offcollab in 20+ days

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664912
Wow, a real Romeo and Juliet story of our age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Luckily Kiara is low tier, imagine Gura giving attention to a Niji. It's like free advertising for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665172
Only instance of her acknowledging anyone outside of holo is projekt melody and thats on gura’s rm

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660950
>>27660311
I think it's kind of mutual hate from both sides actually.

- NijiEN is known to be managed at least in part, by ex-NijiIN members. AKA the branch that anycolor killed off after trying to jury-rig it into an "english" branch in a kneejerk desperate response to seeing HoloEN's explosive success with Myth. Unsurprisingly converting some literal-who random indians over to try to stream in English to compete with the ENs with no marketing didn't work and they killed the branch. So HoloEN indirectly killed the vtuber careers of people who now manage NijiEN.

- On HoloEN's side it's no surprise that many of the Niji girls are too yab, but I think it's more like someone high-up at Cover enjoyed having basically a monopoly over the English market and fought to keep it. Frequently HoloENs had huge blockbuster streams/collabs overlapping NijiEN debuts, definitely seemed purposeful but you'd never get them to acknowledge it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665316
Holy schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665378
Holy deflection. Can you fucking explain the lacking of collabs in any logical way/shape/form? Do you really think nobody can even ATTEMPT to make some actual conjecture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
The Romeo and Juliet of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

I don't mind this at all.
Specially if Calli can just collab with people in hololive and not anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Get fucked Pomu.
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664865
She's not really milking it, she's just throwing viewers at Pomu because Pomu said she liked her. She said previously she wishes she could help low view vtubers gain traction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664912
Only based post in this thread.
I like Pomu. I like Kiara. They like each other. Their fans like the other. Let them collab.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive>Vshojo can collab
Nijisanji > HOLOLIVE(ID,JP) CAN COLLAB
How it should be, fuck /b/omu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664654
Seeing how Calli followed everyone back besides Fulgur it seems like he's the only one who felt the consequences which is fitting because he was the only one actually talking shit and everyone else's contributions were appropriately shrugged off

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665997
Pomu literally did nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
It kinda proved everyone right that nijis are 99% all holo rejects who are jealous of the superior corpo, even seething in a private group chat with their official names tied to it. It’s vindicating to be right about what was though to be a rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666068
It doesn't actually matter in the big picture, because in the name of unity the other Niji ENs won't abandon Fulgur. Either they all can be accepted by Holo EN or no one will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666142
Just remember, /vt/ is never wrong, some revelations take time to present itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665844
Honestly I think Kiara does realize it's more useful for her to keep people hanging for the possibility it might happen someday than actually it happening. Yeah a collab might create a lot of hype for a moment but long-term it's probably less effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666155
They're not exactly unfollowing everyone in Hololive out of solidarity with him and he knows that he fucked up since Millie had to talk him out of graduating because of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Faggot get a life

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666290
They don't have to unfollow but certainly no collabs with Holo EN until everyone is accepted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666181
also, the corpo interns do damage control and gaslight hard here trying to mislead/deflect/redirect common sentiments. all those people pretending nyanners was fine and /vt/ was crazy to hate her because of her demonstrated habit of being a two-face who truly doesn't respect her fans and look what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662320
More like late 20s.
I wonder how far this "adults are still kids" thing will be pushed. People used to get married in their teens, now you have to be at least 30 years to be considered an adult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
*NijiEN management you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661900
Yeah it's weird that Ollie had no problems collabing with Gundou of all people, but Selen is for some reason off limits?
HoloEN management doesn't have any say in how ID is run, so obviously NijiEN is afraid of their fans finding the superior company I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663247
>they aren't going to fire you
why do you think she's not calling in you retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663460
remove her toiler paper privileges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666800
Yeah it's weird, NijiEN from day 1 acted like their farts didn't stink and they were too good to acknowledge HoloEN's existence. When Lazulight was brand new and like half the chat were obvious curious Holo fans referring to holo stuff etc they all acted like they'd never heard of it before and that NijiEN was a new and unique thing. What kind of fucking retarded bullshit is that, really, honestly.

Their refusing to kiss HoloEN's ring and come in as a hostile entity intending to poach audiences rather than share, = HoloEN has no need to be nice to them either. The narrative for a while was that the NijiENs were true-blue Nijisanji fans only who barely even heard of Hololive, which is truly doubtful odds wise as factually barely any NijiJP fans existed in the West compared to Hololive (and this still is the case compared to HoloJP), which gave the NijiEN fans a high horse to ride on pretending like they're also too good to dare associate with those "holobronies" etc. So basically without ever actually saying what they were doing, they guided the NijiEN audience to be fucking truly insufferable beggars but also elitist hipsters 2cool for holo at the same time, a paradox.

That all came apart with the all out war discord leak showing that no the Niji """livers""" are perfectly fucking aware of what HoloEN is up to and keenly think about them often. So yeah they're just sour grapes fucking losers. Meanwhile Gura is like "diamond city lights? what's that?" the other week or so. Odds are she knew perfectly well what she was doing and you could construe that as passing the ball back to them of how NijiEN pretends they're too cool for Hololive. Kiara is the outlier in reaching out to them but then again she has some kind of complex about this as she invited fucking nyanners of all people to collab, don't forget that. For people liking her these days, she's done some utterly stupid butthurt-projecting shit, just not as much as Mori.

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>>27667043
None of this is true if you watched any of them early on, especially if you watched any of them since EN debuted around the time of coco's graduation. But keep making shit up ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667104
I was watching lazulight more than holoEN for a few months when they came out, I know damn well what I'm talking about you disingenuous jackass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666113
wrong, pomu made my dick rock hard and she needs to take responsibility

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667139
Stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.]

All I know is that HoloEN is almost certainly blocking Niji. They clearly aren't allowed to even mention Nijisanji. No way to explain that if they weren't blacklisted.
As for Niji idk, I'm not aware that they refuse to say "Hololive". But maybe they blacklisted them too and it's a mutual block.

The point about ID blocking then too doesn't mean much because we don't know where it originated from, it doesn't have to be the EN manager specifically but could be from higher ups that oversee all the branches.

Anyway, as unfortunate as the PomuTori situation is, there really is a lot of resentment and bad blood between the two sides. I mean they literally seethed about HoloEN in private, even the chuubas themselves think like this. Staying the fuck away from each other is for the best.

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>>27667043
>Odds are she knew perfectly well what she was doing
To be fair, Gura genuinely doesn't spend a single second thinking about her job outside of streams and never browses the internet (got normalfag things to do kek) so I'm more inclined to think she really didn't know

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>>27667550
On the contrary Gura seems permanently fused to the internet, she's just quite good at feigning ignorance.

[Anonymous No.]

Hope we get something exciting for EN3 that knows the in and out of /vt/ i'd like her to support shitting the Nijikeks tbdesuuuuuu

Just a little bite of the Nijicord leak pleazuuuuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667643
little bit of reference i meant, ehek

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>>27667643
I would think they're literally not allowed to say 4chan by contract basically, same with Nijisanji, which would explain why they're so sheepish and quiet about these things despite them being obviously huge influences in the community.

Most telling was when Ina was playing needy streamer and literally her entire chat was telling her it's 4chan and she cherrypicked the one comment saying it's like reddit. Almost like she is factually not allowed to utter that word and because she's a goody-two-shoes not looking to rock the boat won't do it even if it's spelling itself out on her screen. Mori on the other hand is really edgy/fuck-you about as much management/contract stuff as she can get away with so didn't give a shit about letting it slip that yes of course she knows all about us, etc.

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>>27655560
Are you suggesting Pomu wouldn't immediately call if she was allowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660577
Fungus....what is noctyx doing now? are you able to bring down Kronii alone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
Not that surprising. Idols shouldn't associate with literal whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>cant even say the name "Kiara"
yea sure, its hololive blocking it

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>>27663089
>EN and ID do not share management.
Are you functionally brain dead? How to you believe companies/businesses function? All it would take is for either EN management to appeal to upper management for a company wide ban, or for upper management to decide on it themselves.

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>>27655560
It is a hololive issue tho. Why can vshithojo whores like ironmouse can get collabs but zhang doesn't?

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>>27655463
I did not read a single word in this thread. Here's my take: Pomu seems like a nice girl and fun streamer. I don't care that she posted her rocking tits on /b/ when she was 18, and I don't really care about NijiEN at all. I'm happy for Kiara to interact with her on Twitter and I hope it's kept there because Pomu is hanging out with Vshojos now and is therefore haraam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27669699
You'd have to find evidence of a single thing that is enforced company-wide and not branch-specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27669744
>Pomu is hanging out with Vshojos now
Did you memoryhole the Kiara/Nyanners collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27663167
>anything there being worse than your average /vt/ post
lol, maybe Fulgur

[Anonymous No.]

>>27669931
Doubt he knew what vtubers were at that point

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>>27669931
Kiara is my oshi so I forgave her. I don't want it to happen again so I don't want their friends around her. I'm glad Pomu is blacklisted.
>>27669975
no one likes your whores

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine simping for an ugly ewhore

[Anonymous No.]

>>27661698
Fuck off, there is already enough whores in Hololive

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>>27668886
When was the last time she namedropped Kiara?

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>>27667043
>too cool for Hololive
cool story bro, but most of them would obviously have preferred to be in Hololive if they could

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>>27656215
maybe you and OP should swallow some meds instead of cum

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>>27670038
>Kiara is my oshi
Doubtful with such shit takes. You also forgot and forgave her for going mega simp mode on Vei?
She will be on Ironmouses talk show soon, btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>27666491
Yep. Everything is a conspiracy theory until it's not, then it's a nothingburger until someone graduates, then they blame idol culture and screech for weeks against /vt/. God I hate shills so much.

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>>27670300
yes that was all part of the same arc. I worked really hard to get Veibae blacklisted! Vshojos are completely unwelcome among the Hololive fanbase!

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>>27667104
> t. threadreader

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>>27655463
So Niji doesn't let niji members @ holos on twitter?

Also isn't this an all out war and holo talents are underperforming compared to nijis?

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>>27662837
Huh, so for some reason Ollie's "EN viewership" is at risk from NijiEN, but not NijiID.
And Cover has no issues collabing with "VShojo" despite them being "EN viewership".
They also had no problems helping Ina collab with Pikamee due to "EN viewership".

Face it, you guys are just coping super hard. NijiEN was always the one blocking Holo collabs. The Discord leak only made it more obvious.

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>>27669744
She was 12 anon

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>>27655463
Kiara's "I love you"s are completely meaningless, she says it to anyone.

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>>27671874
Because NijiID largely don't speak English that much unlike ID and Vshojo is on twitch a completely different platform thus also not a threat. Now kill yourself nigger

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>>27672031
> didn't address Pikamee
concession accepted

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>>27667414
>They clearly aren't allowed to even mention Nijisanji.
at least pretend you watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

The best part about this is that Vshojo even got a collab with JP while Nijen can’t even manage a holoen collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>27672171
Pikamee is the only one in VOMS who speaks English. And Ina has a dedicated fan base

[Anonymous No.]

They should fuck and post the sextape

[Anonymous No.]

>>27671941
oh please Pomu is my age or maybe a year or two younger. she was 18 as a motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27672528
Pomu is 28 she was 14 when those pictures were taken

[Anonymous No.]

>>27657809
Any other relevant place gets nuked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27660797
Reimu…

[Anonymous No.]

why do they let hoshikawa call haachama and vice versa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27671954
I'm sorry but kiara is way too close to the screen here, it's making me feel uncormfortable

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>>27656215
> HoloEN --> Boogey Voxx, Milky Queen, Amalee, Pikamee (Indies) --> OK
> HoloEN --> Nyanners, Ironmouse (VShojo) --> OK
> HoloEN --> Gigguk/Trash Taste (3DPD) --> OK
> HoloEN --> NijiEN --> BLOCK!

> HoloID --> NijiID --> OK
> HoloID --> Maha5 (their biggest competitor) --> OK
> HoloID --> Gundou(NijiJP) --> OK
> HoloID --> Indies (Nyori family, other 2 views) --> OK
> HoloID --> 3DPD (chess tourney etc.) --> OK
> HoloID --> NijiEN --> BLOCK!

NijiEN is the only Nijisanji branch completely avoiding any Hololive collabs with ANY Hololive branch, despite multiple people on both sides wanting it.
If someone from Hololive side has wanted a collab with ANYONE, and they were willing to reach out, it usually ends up happening. Best example being Ina with Pikamee.
Yet Kiara for some reason has STILL not been able to collab with Pomu despite both of them wanting it.

The 'straightforward logic' is simply NijiEN blocking ANY AND ALL Hololive collabs (apparently the rent-free level is such that they can't even stop mistaking their own talents as Hololive members).
The reasons are, of course, up to speculation. Chinese market, some sort of misguided pride, holier than thou attitude, whatever the reason might be.
And after the Discord Leak, I wouldn't even mind if Cover was blocking it, but it's clear that they aren't.

No amount of coping or gaslighting will ever make reality conform to your delusions.

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>>27672353
...and you think Kiara's fanbase ISN'T dedicated?

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>>27672031
>Because NijiID largely don't speak English that much
Realy now? Mika? Hana? Bon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27673290
Again Pikamee is the only one who speaks any English

[Anonymous No.]

>>27673363
Those are the only 3 who speak it regularly. And only Hana is really any good out of them

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>>27673373
> HoloEN - NijiEN collab will instantly cause some outflow of HoloEN audience to NijiEN audience.
> This won't happen to Ina because she has a 'dedicated audience' (Kiara doesn't).
> This won't happen with Pikamee because she's the only EN (in her group). People interested in her would not start watching her because the people AROUND HER aren't EN.
> This will OBVIOUSLY happen with Pomu, because the people wanting the two to collab obviously do not know of Pomu's existence, nor watch them. And KFP will start FLOODING to Pomu and watching the rest of NijiEN if they even do ONE STREAM together.
This is your brain on rrats.
Take your fucking meds schizo kun.

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>>27673646
There's literally no reason for NijEN to block the collab. The only schizo here is you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655786
Ogey

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>>27673866
There is a very simple and non-schizo reason: China.

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>>27676679
The China rrat is weak no matter what angle you look at it from
NijiJP and HoloJP continue to collab as usual, despite the Taiwan thing happening within HoloJP. And please don't start with "Nijien has mainly a chink audience" 1: the branch existed for 7 months before Vox drew in the chinks and 2: as has been commonly noted on this board, the girls get barely any chink crossover viewers unless they're doing a pandering stream. What reason would Luxiem's chink fans have to care if a girl they never watch collabs with a girl from another company they never watch.

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>>27655463
Based. Management got one thing right, at least.

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>>27655463
how the fuck is this retarded bait thread still kept alive?

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>>27676963
Considering the Discord leak, my guess is that initially NijiEN wanted a slice of that pie, but got salty about being shut off due to no one other than Kiara really giving a shit about them (and Kiara during 2021 was in a bad mental state so obviously didn't have much time to care for other stuff).
This is evident by them replying to almost every single Holo Tweet in the hopes that some Holo viewers would latch on to them.

Kiara still likes Pomu and would like to collab with her now, but I'm guessing that all NijiEN collabs are off the table after that Discord leak.

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>>27677344
>them replying to almost every single Holo Tweet
Gross exaggeration

>all NijiEN collabs are off the table after that Discord leak
Considering there were no collabs for the 10 months prior to the leak, they were never on the table to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

Laughs in vshojo being friends with both hololive and nijisanji

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>>27677344
>almost every single Holo Tweet
Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself

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>>27671954
>KFP will pretend this isn't GFE

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't Pomu sort of right wing, possibly some libertarian type person. But Kiara is like, radically far left wing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27677935
that is correct. Kiara is my wife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27677990
Kiara isn’t even remotely as left-wing as Finana.
Guess who is defending Finana and every single one of her action?

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>>27677344
Pomu is better than Kiara in every conceivable way.
They're sort of similar people, except Kiara is horrendously awful, and Pomu is spectacular.

I would never watch Kiara in a million years, but I watch almost every Pomu stream. It's better

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662218
Why in the fuck would a company help promote its competitor? You schizos live in a dream world.

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>>27678137
I watch the smaller corporations, they freely collab with each other all the time. It's like there isn't even a company barrier. Whenever they want to stream together, they do. Nobody's thinking of viewcounts or subcounts, they just enjoy streaming with each other. NijiEN also collabs with smaller vtubers, and considers them friends.

The one who has a massive wall against interacting with outsiders is hololive, which is the big asshole in the room. They acquire vtubers, claim a monopoly on them, and forbid any outside interactions (unless it benefits them). They are the asshole

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>>27677935
do you really belieb it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27678241
get filtered

[Anonymous No.]

>>27678091
sure, threadreader kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>27678091
This but the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27678241
see >>27673210
Nijikeks can beg all they want, the fact remains that no one likes them.

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>>27677990
Anon all of them are at least liberal, if not outright lefties. That's just the kind of people who get into vtubing in the west.
Even Pippa the supposed "red-pilled" vtuber was revealed to support LGBT behind the scenes.

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>>27678982
NijiEN members have collabed with Pikamee, Vshojo, Snuffy, Amalee, Shoto, Bao, Haruka, Girl_dm, Scarra, Gumi, Qualia Qu/Dtto, Wactor, RPR, IPN, Sykkuno, Corpse Husband, Crunchyroll-hime, and Vienna. That isn't a complete list and most of those were multiple times.
You people have never been able to give one good reason as to why NijiEN management would give their talents free reign to collab with almost any one they want except Hololive. Hololive management has both a reason to block the collab (preventing EN viewers from branching out) and a known history of blocking collabs (e.g. preventing Coco from collabing with HoloEN up until her graduation announcement)

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>>27670136
Your oshi and I'm pretty sure that's it.

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>>27680186
The reasons obviously are in 'he said, she said' territory.
For HoloEN it's some "they're scared of NijiEN hehehe" schizo shit.
For NijiEN it's China, even though they only recently got that audience.

Neither Holo nor Niji have any issues with collabs inside and outside.
The fact of the matter remains that at least one HoloEN-NijiEN collab and a HoloID-NijiEN collab has been cancelled.
Which implies that NijiEN is where the block comes from.

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>>27679094
Is not like we will get conservative chubas on east tbdesu

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>>27680473
>Which implies that NijiEN is where the block comes from.
No, it can easily be HoloEN management asking Cover upper-management to block HoloID from collabing with HoloEN's direct competitor. Given how important HoloEN is to Cover, upper-management would undoubtedly agree and force HoloID to block it.

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>>27681495
the fact that you have to invent a non-existent schizo cross-branch management influence to justify a collab block from your side says it all nijikek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27681495
>Given how important HoloEN is to Cover
its funny to see shit like that not even a day after this board had a meltdown over how cover doesn't values ENs enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>27681642
Just like holofags inventing non-existent schizo "chinese investor" rrats to justify a collab block

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>>27681727
They value the profit EN brings in. If they can get away with having the EN talents spend their own money to produce entertaining content (like a self-funded 3D studio), you know they sure as hell are all for it. And how do they protect that EN profit? By locking out their direct competitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27657939
Leave him be. With the new zero covid measures in place this is probably the only human interaction he has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655896
frustration is getting bigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
It's a convenient excuse for collab ban.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27680473
Do your archive reps. NijiEN has a chink manager since day 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27680473
>For NijiEN it's China
Holobronies consider Hong Kong and Taiwan to be China. They wouldn't know that there are different people living in China (hmong). There are some Chinese zhangs who hate Coco so every Chinese on the whole planet is to blame. They support the one China policy just as Winnie Puh intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27665316
>HoloENs had huge blockbuster streams/collabs overlapping NijiEN debuts

I still remember the most egregious being the DBD collab overlapping Ethyria debuts. The top two subbed members of each gen plus IRyS? So deliberate. However, I don’t really recall other overlaps other than Fish Tank over Lazulight if that even counts.

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>>27660577
>>27662041
Asians in general have an obsession with ‘respect’ bordering on mental illness, and SEA have a gigantic inferiority complex on top of that. What looks like an innocuous conversation to Western eyes is interpreted by them as some hideous insult and a revelation of jealousy and rage.

It’s basically the /vt/ version of those Chinese fans who went batshit crazy because Fulgur ‘insulted’ Vox. It doesn’t make sense to you because it’s not logical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27684998
Gura moved up her meme review stream to coincidentally overlap the Luxiem debuts

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>>27678091
thanks for the blogpost bomu

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>>27681495
Not really, its an overreach and risks alienating an entire branch for one person.
It should also be mentioned that Astel has talked about not being rejected on a collab with Reimu. And Shinnove wouldn't take being told what to do by anyone outside of uppermanagement laying down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
They must know the management. Are NijiEN management mainland Chinese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664912
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664912
Only good (and factual) post ITT

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655560
Subaru said she wanted to do a totsu that would involve non-holo and management outright rejected her

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
SEAnigs are too autistic and take offense very easily
I shit you not in their country they constantly get in fights for petty shit. If they had guns they would make USA shooting look like childplay
This very same screenshot was translated to japanese to cause a drama and the reaction of japanese schizos was like "so, what?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>27673210
>>27680473
Holy shit this is pure cope. NijiEN has literally 20x more off corp collabs. They do it all the fucking time. Multiple times a week. Often multiple times a day. HoloEN is the only one that won't collab with them. Vshojo now has fucking "Free Taiwan" KSON and yet they are having a fucking collab today already.

It's not muh china. It's just HoloEN management being terrified that they will steal viewers from their stagnating branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
The funniest part is they said the same things holo general says.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
GOOD

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people still arguing about this? It's been outed by a non-corpo that Hololive is the one restricting their chuubas' collabs.
https://youtu.be/iQJBqFUG-y4?t=121

[Anonymous No.]

>>27699846
Do we really want Vtubers to be saying the same thing as the cancerous Holo general There's a reason why people treat that place like it's a shithole. Mirroring it is not a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27700937
Everybody with a brain knows this. Only ones coping are Cover drones who will never admit to anything bad their overlords do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27700937
I opened this video out of curiosity and they said nothing about Hololive other than an offhand mention. Where are you getting that they said they were restricted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655560
t. True

[Anonymous No.]

>>27700937
That doesn't say what it thinks its says assmunch

[Anonymous No.]

Niji lets vshojo collab with niji and they fucking kson? At this point its just entertaining seeing nijifags seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>27703283
>they fucking kson
I'm not a niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667550
Gura knows Newgrounds and referred to the YouTuber 2ManySnacks as 2Snacks, his old name from his MLP days and you're telling us that she never browses the internet?

STFU faggot. She's the farthest VTuber from a normalfag in HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
I wouldn't either after what she did to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>27664912
Please get a job

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667043
Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>27684611
They have an Indian manager. Stop lying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27667897
Maybe? She could have been busy. You know, like normal people usually are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>ALL OUT WHORE
>ALL OUT WAR
She's next to Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>ALL OUT WHORE
>>ALL OUT WAR
x1000000000000000000000000

Why are anons so uncreative? At least the leak edits have some originality

[Anonymous No.]

>>27711232
>Anons
>Having originality
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Funniest joke ITT. The tourists will just parrot whatever they see in their discord or containment breaking twitters they follow

[Anonymous No.]

>>27658189
True.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27684794
At least lie better, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27701514
are you not familiar with Nijiniggers and lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27655463
>hololive wouldn't
Nice headcanon now provide proof or kys dramanigger
>b-but its obvious
Proof or kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>27668886
>>27692453
Noooooooooooo my poor little rrat is dead, you killed it! AIIIEEEEEEEEE
I-its somehow still hololive's fault, you fucking incel!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662041
don't find reason in holobro :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>27662673
git gud holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>27681784
Bitch you literally look up anycolor's investors and they already partnered up with Bili Bili for their Chinese branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>27699737
No one in NijiEN follows Kson and the people who did secretly unfollowed her. Why is that anon? Why can't they Collab with Kson since as you said they collab with everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>27680186
I will wait to see NijiEN collab with VShojoJP then.

[Anonymous No.]

How about this: Nobody fucking knows, and we will never know because the second either company reveals who banned collabs is the second that they start a controversy where they get shit from the opposing fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27722117
That doesn't make them investors.
And again, that would have also affected the JP interactions, which as we know, it has not.