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>> No.27612892

>>27612680
Puresu andasutando!

>> No.27612953

>>27612680
wym the stream is great

>> No.27612955
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27612955

>>27612680
>0 effort
>still takes cut
>holodrones praise him on every occasion
this man is a genius businessman

>> No.27612965

>>27612680
Why is Kiara being so ungrateful and dissed Watson?

>> No.27612999

>>27612680
Didn't she have her concert in the end? The way I see it everything went according to Cover's plan.

>> No.27613030

kiara's such a bitch

>> No.27613058

Can people really get into Japan yet?

>> No.27613060

>>27612680
Just fly to Japan

>> No.27613118

>>27612680
Ame should leave and create her own agency

>> No.27613130

>>27612680
based Ame mogging the company's "experts"

>> No.27613150

Based Watson. Technical powerhouse.

>> No.27613222

>>27612680
just Fly to japan, rent the Cover's studio and pay the crew.
bet she can't because it's too expensive

>> No.27613356

>27612955
Cover management already did what they could for free. If the talents want more, they should spend for the staff or adjust their revenue split because this is not charity.

>> No.27613413

why should cover care about a 2k viewer streamer?

>> No.27613502

>>27613058
Doing a quick google search. Independant travelers no. Not until Fall. You don't have to be vaccinated in Japan if you come from a "blue" country. (including most developed nations like the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand and most of the EU). Business and student travelers can enter but they need a proper visa and a sponsor in Japan.

>> No.27613507

>>27613060
Watch streams.

>> No.27613537

The absolute state Ame's living room must be in

>> No.27613749

>>27613058
Yes but it still takes some effort. Gotta pay for multiple vax screens and other hoops to jump through. In reality, Japs don't want the tourists back but the businesses and govt wants the revenue badly. Tokyo, Kyoto, and Okinawa thrive off of tourism money.

>> No.27613774

>>27613537
>living room
Threadreader.

>> No.27613842

>>27613502
Yep, Mori secured a work visa, but Kiara wasn't able to(which is why she HAD to leave Japan) so Mori has been able to come and go as she pleased for a couple months.

>> No.27613902

>>27612680
Cover is such shit

>> No.27613945

>>27613749
Did someone forget to tell Japan that no one cares about corona anymore?

>> No.27613983

Is this Kanauru prerendered shit again?

>> No.27614053

>>27613749
She would be there on business. I had a friend go there on "business" for a month a couple months back and I swear it was literally a month of him hitting up empty tourist hotspots.

>> No.27614063

I'm sure this is Nijisanji's fault somehow.

>> No.27614149
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27614149

>>27612680
i'll throw question back at you, when was cover useful?

>> No.27614168

People love to shit on Cover but, have the girls themselves said that they didn't get any kind of support?, if Ame really made a 3D studio I doubt she did it all on her own, without a single dime or support from Cover

>> No.27614201

>>27613983
No.

>> No.27614226

>>27613983
>Ame and Ina movement
Looks like it's actually tracked after all

>> No.27614308

Haha, people thinking her description would imply low quality. Not the usual equals better and she even implies Cover didn't try by pointing out they actually did their best

>> No.27614368

>>27613983
They recorded in the ame studio so no. At most like before just the background

>> No.27614419

>>27614168
Yes, the say it. Did you think they did the recording at Ame's house for fun?

>> No.27614456

>>27613749
it's hilarious that kyoto is literally shutting down due to lack of tourism

>> No.27614468

if ame could do this in a cave with scraps I shudder to think how capable she'd be if she actually had the team and money to give it her all

>> No.27614478

>>27612955
>build a brand
>grown the brand to a worldwide famous brand
>allow failed idols and streamers in
>they get famous only because of the brand name
>make them rich in the process
>anon implies he doesn't do anything and that Cover is useless

lmao

>> No.27614563

>>27614168
Bro I'm a nijifag and even I know Amelia did it herself, they literally went shopping for shit they needed and Amelia looked up like a thousand things to get it right.

>> No.27614605

>>27614168
They legit had 0 support and Ame put together the studio on her own dime. Cover has actually been more of a detriment since they suddenly said they couldn't use Gura's mocap data and thats why
Kanauru had to pull a 30 hour straight work day to get it done.

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>> No.27614676

>>27612680
look at the way kiara is killing it and tell me cover would do her this kind of justice and let her put a lot of jp to shame like this.

>> No.27614711

>>27614478
>they get famous only because of the brand name
fuck off already

>> No.27614740

>>27614168
All the holos that people usually bring up to shit on Cover have said that they appreciate their managers but sometimes stuff just doesn't work for complicated reasons
I remember at the end of the first big Ame 3D stream the whole thread was bitching about Cover then the last thing in the credits was her thanking them

>> No.27614792
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27614792

>>27614619
I love Ame

>> No.27614796

Ame is the most resourceful of them. Imagine the shit she would come up with some actual money and equipment

>> No.27614807

>>27614711
How is that untrue? All of them were nobodies before hololive.

>> No.27614860

>>27613774
what is it then

>> No.27614864

>>27614478
Shill. The talents built the brand.

>> No.27614890

>>27614478
>grow the brand to a worldwide famous brand
What exactly did Cover do to enable that?

>> No.27614900

>>27614711
prove me wrong then faggot, why weren't ame, kiara, mori, all of council, IRyS, and most of holoJP famous already?

>> No.27614899

>>27614168
They did say they had no support you fucking retard. Even at the very end when they recorded everything and wanted to send the motion data to Cover that incompetent black company was like "sollee no work, too bad" which is why they had to hire Kanauru again

You're so fucking delusional if you think Cover spends ANY money to help them. They don't even buy them fucking PCs outside of emergencies. Let alone help them with song production (despite still taking cuts), something that made Kiara almost want to stop making original music altogether.

>> No.27614933

>>27614478
Based ENshart tourists can't deny this.

>> No.27614939

>>27614419
>>27614563
>>27614605
No, I just have a hard time buying the narrative that Ame built a whole 3D studio on her home all on her own.

I can see Cover doing very little, but nothing?, not even some monetary or advisory support?, why keep working with them at this point?, it just doesn't make sense.

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>>27612955

>> No.27614952

>>27614168
I mean, these people define support weirdly since they skim over the fact these girls paychecks come from Cover. Even if they have to buy shit themselves, the reason they have the money to do that is because Cover gave it to them. They are free to allocate their money how they want and all choose different things.

>> No.27614977

Doing what Ame did is commendable of course, but it's bad for their future prospects of ever getting help from Cover. You should NEVER EVER work for free or go the extra mile for an employer unless you're getting compensated for it, otherwise they'll naturally see that as a way to exploit you going forwards. Happy for Kiara though for having such an amazing genmate.

>> No.27615010

>>27614890
a fuck ton of publicity, merchandise and a market strategy.

>> No.27615028

>>27614605
>they suddenly said they couldn't use Gura's mocap data
Who said who couldn't use what mocap data from Gura? This sentence has 6 possible interpretations.

>> No.27615052
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27615052

>>27612680
OPEN UP THE COUNTRY
STOP LETTING IT BE CLOSED

>> No.27615083

>>27614950
Checks out with with CEO worship.

>> No.27615115

>>27614977

Maybe cover will be force to send real Cover Mocap directly to Ame to create more like these.

>> No.27615123

>>27614939
Seriously they didn't do shit and EN has been getting a bit more vocal about the lack of support. For EN cover has exactly 1 benefit, brand recognition which is super important and the only reason you ever stick with them as EN

>> No.27615125
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>>27612955

>> No.27615128

>>27612680
Reminder that they canceled Gura's birthday plans last second for no reason and lied to her about getting a dakimakura

>> No.27615162

>>27615010
>Publicity
Didn't they simply go viral in 2020? Where's this "publicity" you speak of, is it text posts on reddit and twitter?

>> No.27615176

>>27612680
ame should renegotiate her contract

>> No.27615177

atleast its better than 900k vox celebration kek

>> No.27615200

>>27614977
I mean if Cover cared about the future, they'd have shut down EN a long time ago.

>> No.27615247

>>27612680
Vwhorejo deflection thread.

>> No.27615266

>>27614977
The unfortunate truth.

>> No.27615285

>>27615177
Oh that shit.... lets forget about does numberfag keks

>> No.27615307

>>27614933
you will never be japanese

>> No.27615312

>>27615010
Holo going viral is what helped them anon.
Well that and covid.

>> No.27615316

>>27614860
A mocap room. Spefically for that stuff. You're welcome, you threadreading retard.

>> No.27615329

>>27615128
But she finds dakimakuras gross based on her reaction to Ame's, why would she want one of herself?

>> No.27615334

>>27614939
That's because people are constantly overstating what a home 3D studio is. She has a fleshed out VR set-up because she uses it for streams, that pretty much it.
The motion capture suits that Cover is giving them are still on back order, so Kiara went to Ame's place to use hers.

>> No.27615340

>>27615162
they got viral with the western audience, but they did a ton of publicity for the JP market, the even had promotions and sponsorships that they had to paid and didn't get any profit.

>> No.27615371

>>27615329
holy fucking watch streams.....

>> No.27615386

The mocap seems solid? Not much worse than covers. Doing it themselves for free means that cover can just exploit them more inn then future though

>> No.27615411

>>27614977
She went the extra mile for a FRIEND.
>>27615177
The hell does Vox have to do with anything

>> No.27615441

>>27614977
Cover was never building a studio in NA or EU, dingdong

>> No.27615474

>>27615028
Cover didn't verify that EN's mo-cap data was compatible and told Gura last second it wasn't, then they had to quickly hire Kanauru to use it to make the concert who spend 30 hours quickly putting together the concert.

>> No.27615516

>>27615316
>threadreading
I don't watch ENs.

>> No.27615578

>>27615386
>exploit them
You delusional faggots make no sense, they'd have to pay to go to Japan. If anything this is them exploiting Cover.

>> No.27615598

TURDUCKEN

>> No.27615638

>>27614977
At least Ame is gaining a lot of experience/knowledge/equipment which she could utilize after her current endeavour

>> No.27615655

>>27615329
holy retard

>> No.27615746

>>27612680
And people still argue “cover does a lot for EN”

Name one fucking instance that is actually beneficial to the EN girls Content in any way?

>> No.27615799

>>27615516
Then shut the fuck up about EN things, subhuman cunt.

>> No.27615859

>>27615177
>Comparing a guerilla zatsu he did to a fully fleshed out and super hyped up 3D concert that Kiara has been advertising for weeks.
Numberfag brain rot.

>> No.27615864

>>27615799
I still want to discuss ENs.

>> No.27615883

>>27614939
the own the IP... At this point i think its the only thing keep them there.

>> No.27615887

>>27615474
Compatible with what? Why was only Gura's data bad? Is this for the Kiara concert? Still trying to figure out wtf all this is.

>> No.27615888

>>27615474
Source?

>> No.27615892

If 3D were so easy then where's Nijisanji 3D then?
Don't tell me EN has to wait for JP to finish before they can get theirs.

>> No.27615922

>>27612680
Why can’t she just be grateful to have genmates who bother to deal with her bitchy behavior? In reality none of them had to help her make this.

>> No.27615933

>>27612680
>Why is Cover so fucking useless
probably because Japan was FUCKING CLOSED

>> No.27615977

>>27615864
It's nice to want things. I want you to kill yourself right now.

>> No.27615998

>>27615746
>Name one fucking instance
Hololive
CHECK FUCKING MATE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.27616027

>>27615888
Gura said it during her streams.

>> No.27616068

>>27615883
This is the only angle that makes sense really

>> No.27616075

Since this is actually another "why don't holoEN all quit" thread I will once again point out Cover has literally no restrictions on members having other channels while working there, so if they wanted to do stuff outside hololive they'd already be doing it, as multiple members already do

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>>27612680
Watson, I kneel.

>> No.27616124

>>27615123
Gura is still mad about her projects being scrapped, I’m just as angry honestly. Feels like they don’t let these girls do anything nor do they provide any support.

>> No.27616139

>>27615977
Seethe harder.

>> No.27616172

>>27615892
3D models are fucking expensive.

>> No.27616191

>>27614939
>why keep working with them at this point?, it just doesn't make sense.
Because the girls aren't dumb? Hololive brand carries serious weight. Just look at virtually every single graduates, including big names like Kson (who graduated on, and still maintain good terms with Cover) and Rushia (who got fired) - all of them received worse numbers in all aspects compared to their Hololive time (still way better than most indies, though).
Moreover, put yourself in their shoes. What are they going to do after leaving Hololive? You will get no support still (it's not like the alternative: being indie, joining VShojo, or Niji, provides them more supports either). Your income and viewership drops. You gain... nothing?
Lastly, t's not like Covid is going to last forever. JP is already starting to reopen. Travel restriction is pretty much the only thing stopping those girls from doing 3Ds in Cover's studio.

>> No.27616219

>>27615892
Nijisanji has a list of 3D's, you hit 100k subs you're on the list.
They have a huge backlog still but they're moving at a steady pace.

>> No.27616291

>>27615411
brandfaggots deflecting because they need to defend the murutimirion yen comupani

>> No.27616305

>>27616027
Timestamp?

>> No.27616346

>>27616139
Why would I seethe. I exposed you as a retard.

>> No.27616374

>>27615892
NijiEN can always borrow Ame's studio but I don't think their chinese fans would like it to be honest.

>> No.27616386

>>27613502
Let the elevens starve, they're already dying off anyways. Then they'll beg for the BWC.

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>>27615247

>> No.27616419

>>27616219
Tch! I knew this is another niji stealth shill. Fucking nigger

>> No.27616493

>>27612680
Small cute latina girl with health problems mogs multi million dollar company with her own studio and tech.
Now this is truly pathetic for cover.

>> No.27616503

>>27616219
>100k subs
KEK

>> No.27616511

>>27616346
You did not expose anything aside from me not watching ENs, which isn't a secret anyway.

>> No.27616578

>>27616191
Truth.
Cover is still an absolute tragedy, sitting on an empire built by their talents, pissing away their money on upper management bloat and complete nonsense while living the very people responsible for their success to fend off for themselves.

>> No.27616584

>>27614864
Yeah up to the first 3 generations of talent
Everyone after that is just a leech

>> No.27616625

>>27616291
I aint defending shit, Im just saying she did that for a friend.

>> No.27616691

>>27612680
Why is this whore shitting on ame?

>> No.27616699

>>27616191
>Travel restriction is pretty much the only thing stopping those girls from doing 3Ds in Cover's studio.
Pretty much but not the only one. The other one is Cover.

>> No.27616717

>bro just invest half a million into making a studio and hire bunch of people to run it just so two people can use it once every two weeks.

>> No.27616738

>>27616419
Rent free bitch. Someone asked, I answered.

>> No.27616744

>>27616578
Crazy how every other vtuber agency is somehow even worse
It might just be a Japan thing

>> No.27616792

>>27616578
what's wrong with that, sounds like cover is based

>> No.27616850

>>27616191
All that makes sense, maybe I was thinking too lightly of the whole thing and for Ame it is worth it to go all the way and make a 3D studio to keep having the brand and her character around, with the perks of helping friends and strengthening her own value in the company.

When you think of it as an investment instead of a luxury, it seems more rational.

>> No.27616901

>>27616075
the most devilish thing Cover has done is hire girls who like hololive, thereby trapping them in hololive since they like hololive

>> No.27616907

>>27614977
But given how everyone is seeing how the girls have to do *this*, isn't that a bad rep for Cover overall? They really should already fucking establish bases and mocap studios in the US, ID, and wherever the fuck they wanna expand next

>> No.27616913

>>27616744
it might, in japan exploiting your employees is perfectly normal

>> No.27616958

>>27616901
That's just how the idol business works

>> No.27617017

>>27614807
>All of them were nobodies
Bro Gura had a channel with over 1 million subs before Hololive and was the one who made the Ok Boomer song that went viral and created a meme that's still alive to this date. You thought her abnormal growth in Hololive was normal? It was actually lots of her old fans subbing to her.

>> No.27617038

>>27616744
Be careful, you'll make the weebs angry. They will cut you with their superior Nippon steel.

>> No.27617057

>>27616907
Only 6 members of EN could easily get to a studio in the US
Yes it sucks but you can't seriously think it's a good investment to spend millions building and staffing a studio for 6 people that will be redundant once Japan's borders reopen

>> No.27617065

>>27616699
Cover can't do anything to get the girls into the country, dipshit.

>> No.27617076

I don't watch Kiara much but she is killing it in this concert just like Gura did. Amelia did such a great job without those pieces of shit Cover's help.

>> No.27617149

>>27617065
Do your reps, retard.

>> No.27617167

>>27616913
>in japan exploiting your employees is perfectly normal
also in us and europe and everywhere in the world
just to a varying degree

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>>27614939
>monetary support
roru

>> No.27617220

>>27616346
(You) are the retard

>> No.27617355

I wonder if Amelia will invite the ID girls to do their own concert?

>> No.27617365

>>27617149
retard. This is why I hate globalfags.

>> No.27617368

>>27617076
You want an example of how Cover is garbage? Look at how they treat IRyS

>> No.27617436

>travel ban still in place
niggerthread

>> No.27617452

>>27617167
euro here, i'm currently on my one month payed vacation, i don't know what you mean

>> No.27617486

>>27614807
No not really

>> No.27617496

>>27617355
If they pay enough, sure.

>> No.27617511

Mori's phoning it in.

>> No.27617554

>>27617167
The final solution is revolution comrade

>> No.27617570

>>27617436
sorry, enfags need to cry about Cover once more. The world revolves around Myth

>> No.27617615

>>27617368
She literally said herself that the situation with her outfit/3D is "nobody's fault"

>> No.27617636

>>27617368
IRyS is proof that the
>it's cuz they're not in Japan
thing is absolute cope. She's in Japan and still gets treated like shit

>> No.27617649 [DELETED] 

>>27617365
Nice comeback. Cover bootlickers are the niggers of Vtubing world.

>> No.27617656

la creatividad is REAL

>> No.27617687

>>27617057
Well it's definitely an easier and more convenient time for everyone after that's settled rather than having to travel eeeevery tiiiiime there's a big new thing like a birthday or a 3D costume debut or a random special stream, maybe Cover didn't think this through when they created the EN branch

>> No.27617738

>>27617368
I already know Cover is shit since what they did to Mel, Aloe, Coco, and Rushia. I doubt IRyS will get a new look or even a 3D anytime soon. I'd be shocked if the year passes by without anything.

>> No.27617755

>>27615307
and neither will they lmao

>> No.27617775

>>27617649
idiot >>27617436
>travel ban still in place

>> No.27617816

How does one set up a mocap studio and how much does it cost?

>> No.27617850

>>27616907
>building a studio for talents who barely get on birthday 3d with guests 35k viewers

>> No.27617940

>>27617017
But she was trapped in her drunkard image, and cover cleaned that for her.

>> No.27617981

>>27616744
I'm a white collar worker and that's every corpo ever. Upper management doesn't understand what made the company's success, and begins spending on stupid things while penny-pinching in areas that actually contributed to the company's success.
The only difference is US CEOs spend their money on diversity and inclusion programs, or try to turn their workplace into a prison labor camp (Amazon), whereas the Japanese seem too incompetent to get anything substantial out of the money they waste.

>> No.27618016

>>27617017
>had a channel with over 1 million subs
it had 600k

>> No.27618052

>>27614977
>>27616907
>>27616717
Wouldn't building a new studio in America require increasing the Cover tax?

>> No.27618081

When was the last time EN member even mentioned Cover in good light? KEK

>> No.27618083

>>27612680
Typical Kiara. Can't help but subtly shit on her friends to make herself look better.

>> No.27618125

>>27617816

A bonafide studio is leagues beyond the scope of what any single one can setup obviously. This is like a juicy vr setup but probably like 50k+

>> No.27618213

>>27617816
It cost Ame tens of thousands to build a studio that can do somewhat scuffed non-realtime mocap for one person and needed a contractor to touch up and render the results
>>27618125
Ame's current setup isn't VR, this is real full-room optical motion capture with a suit, in her house

>> No.27618223

>>27618081
every time Yagoo poses for merch LMAO

>> No.27618271

>>27618125
nah, it's way cheaper you can easily do it for 15-20k

>> No.27618283

>>27614939
>Ame built a whole 3D studio on her home all on her own.
What's so difficult to understand about that? She's been dabbling in this stuff for a while now, or what did you think the Smol Ame 3D sessions was for?

>> No.27618296

>>27617816
A lot if you want something that can do realtime.

>> No.27618316

>>27618081
Gura in her last members stream. Of course you dont watch her but she is a huge cover shill even after all the blocks she gets.

>> No.27618443

>>27618316
What did she say that was positive? I forgot, I only remember her talking about Cover cancelling multiple projects of hers, and having to scramble to redo her birthday concert and merch last minute.

>> No.27618445

>>27617017
The new EN hires have a lot of subscribers before hololive

>> No.27618454

>>27618052
The people who post these threads generally believe Cover should fund everything while not taking any of the money somehow

>> No.27618533

>>27618223
Cover, not YAGOO.

>>27618316
Sure, buddy. Sure.

>> No.27618552

>>27615176
Hopefully she already did, Amelia strikes me as a rather smart person.

>> No.27618582

>>27618445
Meant for>>27614711

>> No.27618609

>People ITT talking about Cover's brand power as if it was something Cover themselves had actively worked to create, and that it gives them a free pass to mismanage the entire company the way they do

>> No.27618691

>barely stream
>barely bring in any money
>whine when the red carpet isn't rolled out

>> No.27618772

>>27618454
Anon??? Did you just confess to being a flaming homosexual who takes it up the ass every hour on the clock? How much does your ass hurt right now?

>> No.27618871

>>27617017
Gura was only popular because of viral. songs. She actually had even less live views on Twitch than Ame had.

>> No.27618883

>>27618609
you know, they are already hooked
>>27615125

>> No.27618888

Ame is amazing
I kneel for making this possible
t. KFP

>> No.27619038

>>27618691
They should be happy that EN got 3d models in the first place, but really EN has reclined so much that it makes you wonder if it's even worth investing into them.

>> No.27619059

>>27617017
If she was so massive and great why did she want to join hololive in the first place?
answer that faggot whore

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>> No.27619181

>>27616907
JP talents have to go to where Cover is. EN talents are no different. The majority of EN doesn't even like the idol aspect of Hololive and don't care about these sorts of special events. But even if they did, they choose to live all over the world so you can't make a base for them anywhere. All the idol fans in EN would still be better off going to Japan due to their location.

>> No.27619213

>>27619038
Gee, I wonder what could be responsible for EN having so few finished projects, and no drive to stream...

>> No.27619229

Like can Cover seriously not just get an advertiser to sponsor the concerts so they can then afford to rent out a studio in the US or something? Cause it really sounds like the EN branch is literally left to fend for themselves for anything they want to do, yeah they obviously aren't in Japan mostly but come the fuck on.

>> No.27619280

Hey lets fucking build a whole professional mocap studio in the US when 2 of our EN talents live in Australia and 1 in Europe.
Nevermind the cost of setting up our business infrastructures in a foreign country.
Let sink all that fucking money instead of waiting for Japan to open their borders later this year

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>>27618213
Ame bought the equipment also because she really hates paying taxes & rather inflict loss on herself than give a single cent to the government.

>> No.27619341

>>27619213
>what could be responsible for EN having so few finished projects, and no drive to stream...
Laziness.

>> No.27619398

>>27614478
>make them rich in the process
A couple years of (maybe) high income does not make you rich. We don't know how much money they make. We can make a reasonable guess that it's low to mid six figures judging from what they've said about housing. Gura bought a new house in flyover land (couple hundred k burgers). Kiara wants to buy a couple flats and rent them out (couple hundred k euros). Ina still lives with her parents because a new house in leafland is insanely expensive near major cities (1 million+ leafs).

>> No.27619399

>>27619213
Probably the fact that they have too much freedom and are a bunch of entitled Western bitches.

>> No.27619540

>>27614977
This 100%. Imagine having to go on a business trip to another country, and having to pay for the flight/hotel/etc with the company providing 0 financial support

>> No.27619541

>>27619229
>everyone who wants to do something ends up doing it
Why do you assume everyone who isn't doing something secretly wants to? They don't even want to stream and most of them hate being employed even when they aren't working.

>> No.27619624

>>27619398

I don’t think she bought any house yet

>> No.27619836

>>27619540
If it was a business trip, she wouldn't be able to do all the extra shit she does. She loves traveling all over the world and would do it more if anyone else took her up on her offers.

>> No.27619840

>>27617981
I'm starting to believe luck is the only thing that you need to be successful. It makes so much sense when you think about how many incompetent CEOs there are.

>> No.27619842

>>27612680
If nothing else, it shows that Kiara and Ame put in more effort than any other vtuber. For that I kneel to them.

>> No.27619860

>>27616493
Does Ame have rich parents or something

>> No.27620046

>>27619540
The girls aren't employees though. they're contractors. Cover didn't ask the girls to off-collab or record their own 3d concerts.
Since they didn't pay for any of that, it should be taken at face value that Cover does NOT want the girls to do those things. They won't stop them, yes, but it's not something they care about or think is important.

>> No.27620050

>>27619840
Or they just have different priorities to you and are accomplishing exactly what they intend.

>> No.27620057

>>27618609
It doesn't matter who or why created Cover's brand power, the only thing that matters is that Cover DOES have it and it's the primary reason to join Cover.

>> No.27620071

>>27619860
>ame
>have parents

>> No.27620140

>>27619624
You're probably right I just assumed she had already locked down a place during her hiatus recently.

>> No.27620182

>>27619280
So for the talents it's either travelling back and forth constantly or be forced to move to Japan?

>> No.27620239

>>27619840
It's a mix of luck and being unhinged enough to YOLO it out. For every crazy successful CEO you see, there's thousands who lost it all you don't.
Sane, well-adjusted people don't YOLO it out, even though they would probably do a much better job as a CEO than most people who actually end up in charge.

>> No.27620263

>>27617017
If it was going so well why did she join hololive then huh

>> No.27620362

So it's confirmed that OP is a baiting faggot that doesn't watch streams for making this thread in the first place, and the rest of you are moronic faggots that already don't watch streams either.

>> No.27620402

>special thank you to Ame
Kneel.

>> No.27620523

>>27613030
I hope you just saw that massive prompt thanking Ame you nigger

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>>27620402

>> No.27620582

>>27615307
And EN will always be an irrelevant side branch

>> No.27620610

>>27620182
Yes, even some holos moved to Tokyo so they could be closer to the studio.

>> No.27620624

>>27620182
4 of EN live in Asia, one in Europe, and at least two more in Canada
Wherever they set up a hypothetical EN studio half of them would have to travel a sizeable distance to use it

>> No.27620731

Only Discord fags arguing with one another to generate replies and a handful of idiots still reply to this thread.

>> No.27620746

I love these threads, always funny to read teenager fantasies about how businesses function.

>> No.27620831

>>27613356
>for free
>takes cut anyway

>> No.27620852

>>27620046
I mean, if they forced it on the girls, you'd all cry about how they are against "talent freedom". Not all the JP girls do the same content either. Not every Holomem prioritizes the music and performance aspect of Hololive.

>> No.27620855

>>27616124
I think the part that really pisses them off is HOW they're scrapped. Like, if they just said right out the gate "Nah, not happening" they might be annoyed, but they'd get over it. Instead, Cover will approve them, let them spend time and money on it, only to then turn around and say that actually, they CAN'T do that thing, and pull the plug at the last second.

>> No.27620913

Japan: Best at art, Worst at business

>> No.27620995

>>27620046
The girls are the entertainers, not Cover. It's not on Cover to mandate what they do to entertain the audience in all cases - them not directing them to do things isn't the same thing as them not wanting it.

>> No.27621058

>>27614168
lol newfag cover doesn't help with anything and never has

>> No.27621069

>>27615125
>turn customers into gachikois
>products into birthday merch
>employees into idols
>and brands into numberfagging

>> No.27621100

>>27612680
From what I remember from actually watching streams, this all happened because the stuff Cover was going to get wouldn't have arrived in time for her birthday, so she and Ame set this up.

>> No.27621111 [DELETED] 

>>27614977
Even being whores get paid than this kek

>> No.27621302

>>27614952
>I mean, these people define support weirdly since they skim over the fact these girls paychecks come from Cover
No, the paychecks come from us. Cover "generously" allows them to keep some of it while taking a big chunk for themselves

>> No.27621322

>>27621100
>actually watching streams
You don't belong in threads like this anon

>> No.27621341

Retards, the money is split even between all holomen. If holo1 gets $100 per month, holo2 gets $200 per month and holo3 gets 0$ per month (doesn't stream), all of them will get $100 per month each because (100 + 200 + 0) / 3 = 100, except there are 50+ holos instead of 3, the total gets split between all holomen.
This makes financing U.S. studio significantly easier.

>> No.27621367

>>27615010
Actual retard

>> No.27621372

>>27621302
You can say that about literally any job in the world, retard.

>> No.27621412

>>27621322
You're right.

>> No.27621540 [DELETED] 

>>27614952
These faggots really squished them hard lmao

>> No.27621543

>>27614478
>grow giant brand
>still can't make an en speaking branch studio
>force the girls to do it on their dime
>make them say it's not the same quality

>> No.27621598

>>27617017
>You thought her abnormal growth in Hololive was normal? It was actually lots of her old fans subbing to her.
do you actually think this? gura's growth is because she's a legitimate meme genius + she has the model that hits the most demographics, no other reasons

>> No.27621633

>>27614977
>>27619540
You are dumb. This is an entertainment industry, not a salaried position. Their efforts directly impact their own income and future prospects.

>> No.27621762

>>27621372
Yes, and? Do you love parasitic blood-sucking middlemen?

>> No.27621772

>>27621598
And she was in Hololive, which is the biggest reason of all.

>> No.27621796

The constant reminders to cover from EN that they had to outsource yet another 3D event will put pressure on them to respond. If they don't, they'll just look shitty in the eyes of the company. Of course EN won't say anything about cover out loud, but they can always allude to it
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Normally it wouldn't be this way, but when the entirety of Myth is tired of your shit, you don't have many options

>> No.27621799

>>27621633
But they do get salaries from Cover which makes it even worse how lazy the ENs are.

>> No.27621855

>>27614977
These faggots really squeezed them hard lol

>> No.27621880

>>27621598
>she has the model that hits the most demographics
How?

>> No.27621909

>>27621799
And where, pray tell, does the money for these salaries come from, genius?

>> No.27621972

>>27621909
Just like in any other company, from customers.

>> No.27622005

>>27621799
The base salaries are effectively irrelevant compared to the various cuts from other earnings based on audience / sales etc.

>> No.27622062

>>27621372
There aren't a lot of jobs where the customers give money directly to the workers, as a gift to them personally, and then the company takes its cut. If you a tip a waitress or stripper, she keeps all of it unless it's an incredibly shady business.

>> No.27622093

>>27615638
Holyshit you're fucking retard

>> No.27622167

>>27621762
It's a necessary part of the system, people don't self organise very well. Or we could all enjoy the official CCP vtubers they tried a year or two back.

>> No.27622169

>>27614168
Kiara just did. Can you not read? Based chicken, I kneel.

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>>27615125
>tfw never oshifagged
>tfw never boutght any merch
>tfw never sent a superchat
>just enjoying watching cute anime girls doing cute shit

>> No.27622217

How did they do Holofes if the mo-cap data isn't compatible?

>> No.27622236

>>27622167
Thank god Cover was there to help the girls organize!

>> No.27622255

>>27614478
>>27614711
>they get famous only because of the brand name
This is true Connor already said so.

>> No.27622261

>>27622062
Superchats are a relatively small part of their earnings.

>> No.27622291

>>27622217
How indeed.

>> No.27622313

>>27622062
> drop money into susan poket
> directly
anon....

>> No.27622328

>>27622217
>if the mo-cap data isn't compatible
That was just a polite way to tell them to fuck off

>> No.27622341

>>27622236
Indeed. Kiara wouldn't exist without them.

>> No.27622342

The death date of Cover Corp. is already marked on the calendar, as soon as Holoearth fails, shareholders will pull out all their money. I remind you that shareholders still think that Cover is a VR innovation company and not a VTuber company, they think that VTubers are just a demo of their VR/AR capabilities and that Holoearth is the real product of Cover. Obviously, this is not the case.

>> No.27622456 [DELETED] 

>>27616578
Yagoo should neck himself in akihabara forest

>> No.27622516

>>27622342
>shareholders
Cygames, bushiroad and food companies that specifically hire the talents they like to sponsor their products, think cover is a tech company?

>> No.27622537

Cover is too busy whoring out Hololive EN by rebranding it to include males

>> No.27622550

>>27621880
bright and colourful, simple design thats incredibly appealing to children in a way none of the others are. not sexualized so its more appealing to women and any other non-hetero male demo, which some of her genmates aren't.

if you look at kobo she hits a lot of the exact same spots and also has ridiculously explosive growth over the rest of her branch

>> No.27622562

>>27615334
No, kinda. Ame's regular VR setup is something she's had for a long time. That's where she's done all of her VR stuff until now.
But for this, she upgraded it massively. Much more intricate camera setups and installing (removable) rails around her VR room, which required multiple days of calibrating until they got any useful motion data out of it.

>> No.27622574

Honestly most of you people completely miss the point. When people tell you that cover is a black company, they are being serious, even though most people saying it don't realize exactly how true that statement is. They have in house software for everything and if i know japs, they had it built by some retard with the lowest price that learned how to code over the summer and its barely held being together with shit, toothpaste and a shinto prayer. Never underestimate the japs unwillingness to work with another's product, even if it means fucking over themselves and their employees and costumers.

The point of this rant is that cover 1. won't help with whatever Amelia is doing because it isn't in the contact and they won't own it once it is finished (or any of it any step of the way to completion) and 2. can't help her because they have their shit "in house" software that is incompatible with absolutely everything else

>> No.27622577

>>27616744
Yeah yellow monkey corpo bs

>> No.27622602

>>27622516
Cover started out as a tech company and investors still consider it to be.

>> No.27622686

>>27621799
I never understood why people call the ENs lazy. Myth puts out covers constantly, even they're not something I enjoy. Many of them are bilingual, something the JP branch isn't. Many of them stream a shit load, some literally every day. And they build they shit they have to and push for a lot of memorable stuff like Ame always does. They get the least support from cover and need to do more for themselves despite being an extremely successful branch. Meanwhile they shovel the money they make into holostars shit.

>> No.27622721

>>27622602
If investors can't read Cover website then it's on them.

>> No.27622797

>>27622602
Ah yes, a curry company hired a tech company to sponsor their products with... catchy idol songs. Because that's what tech companies do right?

>> No.27622803

>>27616907
It is and cover is too ignorant to realize this

>> No.27622834

>>27622342
>>27622602
Or they don't consider it to be a tech company now, but they considered that when they were investing into Cover and they're still waiting for profit from that investment. While hololive could be used to get those profits, investors are likely looking for more long-term stuff.

>> No.27622851

>>27622797
In Japan yes. That's not rare at all.

>> No.27622905

>>27614711
KEK you would have never have heard about any of these people without the brand, retard. Don't claim otherwise.

>> No.27622938

>>27622834
Are you fucking retarded? No one was investing in Cover before hololive, they were irrelevant. They went from 20 employees to 300.

>> No.27622939

>>27615859
its 900k celebration not guerilla zatsu lol

>> No.27622948

>>27622721
>>27622797
This is closer to what I meant: >>27622834

>> No.27622960

>>27622342
This is the rrat that makes the most sense. The moment HoloEarth bombs, Hololive is fucked

>> No.27622983

>>27622905
>tribal cover fans actually believe this
They were all popular before joining. Unless you're a hyper focused holo-autist you know who they are from when they inflated quickly in the indie scene.

>> No.27623057

>>27622217
It really makes you think, doesn't it?

>> No.27623066

>>27622938
I don't mean that investors were investing into Cover while there was no hololive, I mean that they considered Cover a tech company and considered Hololive as a demo of tech when investing while hololive existed.

>> No.27623070

>>27622834
Anon literally everyone I mentioned started investing into last year, and any investors they had before that are beaten 10 times over with a single cygames sponsor

>> No.27623175

>>27623066
They were investing because of hololive and not because of some special tech, you would have to dumb to think otherwise. First of all Cover is not selling their tech.

>> No.27623190

>>27622983
>They were all popular before joining.
All of gen 6 were actual 2 views
Laplus' highlight from her previous persona was being graduated while she was streaming normally
>EN
Not an argument

>> No.27623294

>>27617057
Stay in school, faggot

>> No.27623324

A "home 3D studio" is a grandiose label for a setup on par with a VRChat poledancer

>> No.27623346

>>27622342
They've made a significant profit though. They're not failing out of money each year, they're just not going full "we need to talk about your numbers until you have a mental break down yugo" niji with it. Their investors know their brand because it's a visible entertainment company, not a shady company that pivots in private. If they had no public offerings I'd agree it's possible they could possibly pose as a tech company, but you'd have to think their investors were the biggest retards in the world to believe this. They've had years as a jumping off point and new investors that wanted the idol shit came on, and ones that thought it was shit hopped off. There's no way around it, they still report what their company is doing for investors quarterly. They aren't gas lighting them, they have too much visibility. I'm surprised people can believe they wouldn't know even for a second.

>> No.27623374

>>27623070
Are they actual shareholders?

>> No.27623438

>>27623190
Their numbers weren't sky high but they were inflated more than the average indie. 2view is pushing it unless you're at "gura under 10k omg she's dyingggg" levels of cover number worship.

>> No.27623477

>>27622905
ah yes, ok boomer and the musky pasta were not all over tiktok and racked several million views and subs

>> No.27623486

>>27623374
>investing=shareholding
Anon... I...

>> No.27623523

>>27623175
>>27623346
Fair enough

>> No.27623547

>>27623477
>>27622983
>I only care about Gura: the posts

>> No.27623608

How would you feel if Ame graduated from Myth to become a more semi-public supportive role like A-chan? She seems to enjoy this stuff more anyways.

>> No.27623654

>>27623547
>no refute
>uh, y-you mentioned gura!! S-so it doesn't matter now!

>> No.27623665

>>27623438
No they were fucking 2 views, double digits, and some 3 views but not even beyond 200s

>> No.27623736

>>27623608
I wouldn’t be shocked if that was in her long term plans but I don’t see it happening any time soon.

>> No.27623739

>>27623654
>the exception is the rule

>> No.27623794

>>27623486
Well no, I'm asking if those are shareholders or not
I'm starting to think this rrat is kinda retarded

>> No.27623935

>>27622686
Anon beside Gura's recent two songs with Shion her last original song was Q 5 months ago. So it was almost half a year until the next cover from her.
I am not saying they aren't working like other anons but even the girls have mentioned that they have been flaky and disappearing a lot these last 6 months and Gura in that member stream after the whole party Yab seems to of regretted not streaming as much.
They aren't lazy so much as that they're really bad with their time and either because of management or just not much skill in this kind of thing have spent longer than they should of on projects. Gura said she wasted a year on two projects that never got completed.
My guess with management is that the girls problem did something around their anniversary VR chat stream that pissed off management that led to them doing the bare minimum. We know around the time Irys and Council came out the girls started being more negative of management and airing dirty laundry like how someone laughed at Gura suggestion for a permission and Ame started going to outside sources to do 3d. Then there was Kronii and Sana who (whether justified or not) killed their momentum and taking weeks off with no warning. Chances are there is a pissing match going on with several of EN and management and the other girls are getting hit by association.

>> No.27623980

>>27622342
ipo will solve this

>> No.27624009

Hololive spends all of its money on its JP branch. EN should be grateful they should exist at all, apparently. Hololive runs not only like a Black Company but also an American one.

>>27621799

Only lazy ones I see are HoloX and the Jap salarymen growing fat off of EN SCs like the parasitic ticks they are.

>> No.27624080

>>27612680
amelia out there like an age of empires villager

>> No.27624130

>>27623980
What?

>> No.27624131

>>27623608
>>27623736
I can kinda see that, but Ame is still a streamer and feels like her way of taking her mind off of things. I don't see her becoming a manager and not having a place where she can scream her lungs out in frustration

>> No.27624158

>>27620046
>contractors
this is pretty much the key factor here. Cover is too scared to deal with the legal and financial difficulties of becoming a multinational corporation, so they can't hire the employees necessary to organize a real studio and 3d live. Everything just gets contracted out instead.

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>>27612680
Ame is the Bob The builder of HoloEN if you think about it. HoloEn's chibi models Kiara podcast intro, Vr chat maps, and 3D mocap studio are all designed and built/co-built by her. GG detective

>> No.27624239

>>27615887
Open wide retard, I will spoonfeed just this once.
Gura had a big 3d thing planned for her birthday. At the last minute Cover bailed and she and the other Myth girls instead had to send the mocap they recorded at various studios to Kanauru to get Gura's birthday concert put together. The timeline is a bit weird because you have Mori saying Kanauru gave her stage directions for her mocap, so at what point exactly Cover bailed isn't clear, but Gura made it clear that the concert we got was as last minute as it was possible to be.
Separately, Kiara had been trying to arrange a 3d birthday concert for months now, ever since 3rd fes. Cover was unable to obtain her a 3d studio in Europe or America with those 4 months of notice (which would have been at Kiara's expense anyway), nor were they able to source her the mocap suit they sent to everyone else in Myth for home 3d. So with about four weeks to go she planned to go to Ame's, where Ame rebuilt her 3d setup from the suit into the reflective balls and cameras setup, spent two days calibrating and setting up, then recorded the entire concert in one day. Cover was unable to work with that mocap data - not sure if this was planned or a surprise - and Kiara once again engaged Kanauru as a freelancer to produce the concert from the 3d data and recordings.

The unusable mocap data is a bit of a rrat, I don't think it was ever stated directly by either of them. Just that Cover didn't or was unable to produce either event.

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>>27624009
Lazy btw

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>>27624250
Not lazy btw

>> No.27624394

>>27623935
>My guess with management is that the girls problem did something around their anniversary VR chat stream that pissed off management that led to them doing the bare minimum.
Like what?

>> No.27624496

>>27612680
If only you knew how much worse every other company is compared to cover. We should thank them everyday that they hold up the gate keeping as many trannies and faggots at bay as they can.

>> No.27624524

>>27614619
good meme

>> No.27624548

>>27618871
Ah a time when people recognised who was actually more talented, instead of simping for someone just because she is cunny

>> No.27624646

>>27619860
she was almost homeless for a bit, dude

>> No.27624893

>>27614740
In the real world you dont shit on your boss, even if he is an idiot you dont say that outloud

>> No.27624896

>>27624009
>HoloX is lazy when they have Koyori thar streams more than any EN
RUMAO come on defend your lazy ENs who are not streaming much, because Gura is rewarded by her braindead fanbase for being lazy and ghosting them

>> No.27624916

>>27614478
This. Look at sharts trying to cope in the replies lmao

>> No.27625003

>>27614864
Yes, the JP ones. When myth debuted they had everything served on a silver plate already.

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>>27612955

>> No.27625118

>>27614939
Sponsorships and merch are the only two reasons to stay around, and if you dont get any sponsorships and you merch ideas denied, then they should start looking at their options

>> No.27625123

>>27614864
Yes until JP Gen 3, everyone afterwards os riding on the brand

>> No.27625278

>>27614864
For EN it was not hololive or even their own effort that built the brand, it was the fact that they rode the youtube front page that built them, without that they would been bug streamers, but not even close to as successful as they are now

>> No.27625377

Anyone sucking Cover's dick should also be sucking Susan's dick for providing the platform to host their content and the algorithms to boost their popularity.

>> No.27625534

>Cover can organise sponsored streams for EN with big names (Taco Bell, Paladins)
>but do it only when talents ask for it, using their one time wish.
Why? Why don't expand the Hololive brand? Look for potential sponsors?

>> No.27625575

>>27625534
Because fans consider streams like this shill streams and hate them

>> No.27625630

The least popular EN member that also lives in buttfuck nowhere should get special treatment? She's also annoying and demanding af so I can see why they didn't want to go the extra mile for her during coof times.

>> No.27625697

>>27625575
People loved Taco Bell stream

>> No.27625737

>>27625118
>Sponsorships and merch are the only two reasons to stay around
What if, crazy idea I know, they like hololive as a whole, not just EN, and they enjoy being part of it (deadbeats do not apply)

>> No.27625802

>>27624394
I can't give you an exact what set them off originally but we do have several things that either would of been cause of made it worse.

>Ame and myth doing that smol characters for april
>the using them to do an anniversary
>Kiara blowing up about how management backstory for Council was overly chunni and trying to top Myth
>Gura has brought up several times when management denies a permission on stream to tens of thousands of people
>Sana after her first few debut weeks disappears for months. I am not saying she is wrong but that from a business stand point her dog dying and her back being injured probably made them feel like they lost the most important time for revenue growth with her
>Kronii depression made her spend larges amount of time playing the biggest buff game(minecraft) offline to the point you have more hours of people seeing her on others streams than her own. She also took days to weeks off to the point she said management had to tell her to stop playing offline and stream
>Mori whole lean yab, the first thing she did was say she wasn't going to do anymore schedules then got on her RM and said she will stream more here. She was either intentionally or not either threatening to leave or thinking that Cover might fire her
There is a lot of small things not mentioned and things such as people disappearing and dead hours that get mentioned a lot here. Since december there has been a lot more emphasis on Ame doing everything and the amount of Cover talk outside of their specific manager like JENma and Jchad has dropped off.

>> No.27625829

>>27625737
>What if, crazy idea I know, they like hololive as a whole, not just EN, and they enjoy being part of it
Must be really fun having all your ideas shot down for bullshit corpo reasons and having to do nonstop birthday callins for "sempai" that you can't understand

>> No.27625841

>>27625534
Bigger expansion means dealing with multinational regulations/politics and after HoloCN Cover is too scared and conservative to deal with that.

>> No.27626022

>>27625841
Nothing happened after Tako Bell stream.
Just grab KFP sponsored stream for Kiara, some ship game for Gura or something like this. JPs are doing sponsored streams all the time.

>> No.27626028

>>27625829
Ame seems to enjoy it a lot anon, it's almost like these girls joined hololive for a reason... (deadbeats do not fucking apply)

>> No.27626129

>>27622602
My country hired a flower shop to develop a national covid vaccine app (registration and waiting list). Never underestimate the corporate greed.

>> No.27626170

>>27626028
Ame suffers through it for the sake of us, her fans. But listen closely and you can hear the pain lurking in her voice.

>> No.27626310

>>27626022
My point is that Cover is not going to take the initiative on these things because they're taking a conservative approach with their international expansion. That's why they don't hire overseas 3D live staff, that's why they don't organize bigger anime convention appearances, that's why they don't have more EN sponsorship deals. JP does this all the time because there is less legal barriers for them to do so.

>> No.27626443

>>27624239
Personally I think Cover were not able to utilise the mocap data because they were dealing with Holo JP6's 3D

>> No.27627136

>>27624239
that "not compatible" shit is BS, a big part of any 3D animator is to read whatever mocap data they give you and make the product
if a customer came with data and we said "sowwy it's not compatible", I would be fired
you MIGHT need to clean it and adjust the joints to suit whatever engine you are using but there's tools to automate that

the reality is that they NEVER wanted to partake in that project in the first place

>> No.27628000

>>27624893
Depends on the boss

>> No.27628313

>>27623935
>how someone laughed at Gura suggestion for a permission
Sauce?

>> No.27628415

>>27627136
>that "not compatible" shit is BS,
Your conclusion might be accurate, we'll never know for sure. But I distinctly recall Kiara saying something about the data format being incompatible with whatever Cover needed.
Filtered through multiple languages, managers, and then only what Kiara could reveal in a semi-public forum, but that was the breaks.
Realistically, anything coming from Studio Ame will have to be self-produced.

>> No.27628664

Why did Gura get so uncomfortable when people asked about Omega?

>> No.27629216

>>27628664
Omega has already left, we know that, but she does not know that we know that, so she is forced to lie on the spot, making her uncomfortable

>> No.27629315

>>27629216
She's the one who brought up his name though

>> No.27629428

>>27625737
The process and amount of hoops and paperwork that corps need to do if they want to even suggest a en-jp collab is exhausting

>> No.27629476

>>27629315
yeah, that's why she yeeted herself out of the stream. she made a lot of mistakes really quickly and decided to just gtfo

>> No.27629639

>>27622939
and it was a literal guerilla zatsu to celebrate 900k
Can't even call that much of a celebration in comparison to other milestone streams he did in the past, but it is what it is. He probably only care to make a proper one for 1million

>> No.27629915

>>27628313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-gTPa2dInw

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