/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Kronii pretend to be depressed?

[Anonymous No.]

>pretend

[Anonymous No.]

Don't let this thread distract you from the fact that Mori didn't call in for Kiara's birthday stream.

[Anonymous No.]

So no one has any expectations from her

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>>27598086
Have you heard her speak? Her voice oozes lethargy and nihilism.

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>>27598107
Are you serious? What a cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>pretend

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598107
>>27598164

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>>27598086
Pretend? I don’t watch her but Everytime a clip of her pops up in my feed she sounds like she’s a day away from doing a kurt cobain impression

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>>27598107
Don't let this post distract you from the fact that Gura didn't call in for Kiara's birthday stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598427
It's when gura does it
It's not okay when mori does it
Simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598427
But at least she replied to her birthday stream tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>pretend
Also,
Cuckbeat deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598343
My Kiwawa is an angel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598086
>depressed
>has energy to stream
attention seeking whore
many such cases!
t. medfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598086
From her point of view she is depressed, but she doesn't really understand what real depression looks like, from my point of view her darkness look like a dream full of rainbows.

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>>27598499
>It's when gura does it It's not okay when mori does it
so if the gura doesn't do it it's ok for Mori to do it then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598086
>pretend

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598751
No, nothing is okay if Mori does it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598727
Everyone carries their own crosses, Anon. It is not for us to judge. We don't know what she has been through.

[Anonymous No.]

She'd probably feel better if she didn't hide her tits.

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>>27598727
You sound like a Kingdom Hearts character, and I mean that in the rudest way possible.

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>>27598982
>We don't know what she has been through.
fair enough, but still
real depression as in clinically diagnosed depression would have her acting completely different

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>>27598086
Kronii gives me vibes of a lonely fat goth girl that wants female teetee and is getting it through Hololive.

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>>27598960
So if Mori exterminated all bugmen starting tomorrow, you will be the biggest bugman defender because it's not okay that Mori did it?

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>>27598086
>rich
>depressed
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>27599170
>korean
>fat
She's just lonely and on top of that doesn't know how to talk with women because she probably didn't have friends in school

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>>27599454
She likes Sonic so she has a high chance of being autistic

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>>27599212
yes

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>>27599212
of course but why do you need to put her against the literal most trash people on the planet?

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>>27599412
They're not mutually exclusive.
Do poorfags even have time to be depressed?

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>pretend

[Anonymous No.]

>>27599850
Sure do, the government basically requires it

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>>27598086
So she could finally have a personality.

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>>27598086
Same reason most people do, great excuse to lo less work.

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>>27598098
fpbp

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Kronii has an avatar with massive tits when they've mentioned being non-binary. This inevitably attracts horny, maladjusted men lewding after them, only caring about their appearance and not her substance. They're probably incredibly uncomfortable with their fanbase and would prefer to have a smaller, chiller chat than a chat that just spams one -line memes and showers them with patronizing compliments when they get something right

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>>27600865
i tried to be respectful and use 'they' and 'their' everywhere but that shit is fucking hard. feels weird to use the plural pronoun for non-binary

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>>27599163
Really? I don't have depression so I'm not sure but she seems to act like a person with depression, like when she did that rant about not feeling motivated to get up from bed everyday and other weird stuff in that collab with Calli and Gura out of nowhere. After that, she said it was all just a joke but that cleary wasn't, I've heard that people who suffer from depression try to hide everything they say just as a joke like Kronii did. I don't think someone who's just faking it would go that far when what she said made everyone around her worried. And also let's not forget that weird tweet she made saying "things will get better, we can do this over time".

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>>27600865
Maybe she should try being more insteresting as a person then because as it is her only talents are her model and sexy voice.

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She has a nice voice, but I really don't know how Cover wasn't bored to sleep by her audition. The Calli of Council. Good designs, cringe as fuck talents.

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>>27600906
Honestly depression is different for everyone. Usually working on something can distract you from dwelling on bad thoughts too much. Some people can still function perfectly fine with extreme depression, others are crippled and can't leave bed or even build up enough motivation to go to the bathroom, with some opting to just piss their pants or shit in a bag next to their bed
Point I'm making is I think you shouldn't read too much into it. Someone who's depressed generally doesn't like people pointing it out, and being overly cloying can make them self-conscious
Just my two autistic cents

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I must be one of the only people on this board that actually enjoys Kronii and her sense of humor. She seems like she'd be fun to chill with.

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>>27600937
She's not malicious like Mori.

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>>27600937
>>27600934
Just a personal theory, but I think the reason why Council hasn't succeeded as much as Myth is because they're "coddled" so to speak
Council was brought into the wildly successful Hololive EN (wildly successful from a Western vtuber standpoint, pls no bully with japanese ccv numbers). While they had to work hard, they didn't need to really push in the same was as Myth did. They got to be complacent if they wanted to, since Hololive EN was essentially an established powerhouse in the scene at that time
Myth on the other hand were literally thrown into the fire. People knew vtubers could succeed in the West, but no one knew the formula. Myth literally has one of the most diverse group of talents (in terms of musical talent, personality, artistry, and technical know-how). Cover was likely just tossing darts at the board and hoping something stuck. They worked Myth like dogs
With Council, they were able to somewhat coast by thanks to Myth's success. In the end, however, hard work > talent

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>>27601162
Council didn't succeed as much as Myth because the vtuber fad was over
If you look at people who actually watch them, their live viewers are pretty similar

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>>27601298
Yeah, that's probably true to an extent. I wonder which Western vtuber will explode next though. There's a huge untapped market in NA (not just the US but also Mexico) that could be converted into weebs in the coming years

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>>27601007
I get what you mean, thanks for explaining better. I'm ignorant on the subject so I speak based on what people who understand the topic better than me have told. Thank you, Anon.

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>>27601395
Why do you think there's an untapped market of people who could be weebs?
Most people think anime is cringe and wierd, they aren't gonna change their minds

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>>27601162
This. After debut buff, lower streams are understandable but the constant rest they did kinda put people off hence low subs. ccv wise, kronii honestly have the potential to be almost gura level (at least second to gura), she's not just consistent and when she has the time, she just keep on spamming debuff streams.

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>>27598086
Because depressed girls are inherently attractive to the kind of male that paypigs for vtubers, the vulnerability triggers the predatory part of their brain and makes them think "this one will be easy to manipulate into sex".

It's genius, really. She attracts would-be groomers just to groom them herself.

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>>27601082
I like it too, her comedic timing is perfect and the jokes she makes are funny and not forced. She is one of the funniest people at Holo EN.

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>>27601485
Based on what she said on members' streams I'm hopeful she should be a bit more consistent once this move/break ends.

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>>27598107
>Chumkek deflection post

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>>27598086
get more money from saviorfags
women can't be depressed, btw

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>>27600902
it really is weird isn't it? it makes it feel distant or something. anyway cheers for being respectful on this pit of a website

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>>27598086
it rakes in the money

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>pretend
OP is a faggot and probably has said "just cheer up bro" once in their life.

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>>27598086
>pretend
She's just a depressed lesbian

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>>27601082
I never laughed once watching her

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>>27602132
Who also was groomed into thinking that she is not a real woman

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>>27602132
Does cover allow colleagues to have lesbian sex?
If yes what's her problem

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>>27602349
her problem is where is she when i need her the most

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I can't accept Kronii being depressed, she has a very low demanding job and is woman meaning she's already living life on easy mode, if she's depressed it's because she wants to be.

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>>27602755
Depression often isn't rational. Look at how many rich and famous people blow their brains out.

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>>27602755
I don't think that's fair to say. There are a lot of people with depression in the world -- many of the degens on /vt/ have it or have experienced it before. As we've seen with the suicide rates in Japan, just because you have a quality of life doesn't ensure that you'll be happy
I know is a platitude to say it, but I really do believe "pain in pain." Sure you're not suffering as much as an impoverished child in Cambodia, but does that mean your pain isn't justified unless you're living as awful a life as them? That's just silly

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>>27602987
"pain is pain"

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>>27602987
>quality of life
it's just not a factor once your brain decided to hate itself

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Has anyone considered Kronii has spent the past few years trying to convince herself that she is a lesbian or some other non-binary whatever crap, and now all of a sudden she has 1,000s of men complimenting her, telling her how great and perfect she is. Her actual female instincts to pursue a man for companionship are kicking into high gear and she's fighting them because she doesn't want to appear that she was wrong about herself or to have a certain community go full rabid on her. I feel bad for her, it has to be complete hell. She seems like she'd be an amazing woman to spend time with.

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>>27604100
That's kinda hot.

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>>27598086
>pretend

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>>27598661
>has energy to stream
nigga there is no energy to be found in Kronii's treams

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>>27604100
if that was true I would superchat her every stream calling her cute

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>>27601162
While I agree with your assessment, it doesn't have much to do with Kronii's personality. The most you could say is that she got complacent very quickly, but she was boring from the start. I would like a streamer to a bit more lively than "Well, I exist" and say more than things like "Oh, haha, look at that." I suppose you could put her on in the background as something chill to listen to, but even then... the bar is being set very low here. She's makin' money, but she hasn't made a real splash (because she's a weak entertainer & not a consistent streamer). She has a legion of simps, but keepin' it real, she doesn't make EN look good. I wouldn't proudly show someone Kronii.
It's fair to say that Myth, which lacks chemistry, has a historic status boost to their name. But individually, they are far more talented than the Council members. Bae is supposedly a dancer, but she hasn't been able to show that off to us unfortunately. And Sana, she drew 1 artwork for Council's debut and that is kinda it.

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>>27598148
Kronii is essentially Daria
tranny Daria

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>>27598982
Don't we know that she had a friend sudoku in front of her? Or at least she discovered the body or something?

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>>27598343
Kiwawa would forgive Mori if she raped her firstborn child

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>>27604100
Yep. Go go Kronies. Please save this woman from herself.

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>>27598086
Depression is a bonus for saviour fag or same fag.

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>>27605274
Wait, what? What's the source for that? If that a real rrat, damn I feel bad for Kronii and no wonder why her mental state isn't the best.

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>>27604100
i unironically believe that her trooning is wearing off because she joined hololive, also she just moved out so i wouldn't be surprised if she got away from an highly toxic troon environment.
I don't really enjoy her stream or her personality but if i'm right about this then i'm genuinely happy for her.
fuck troons.

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>>27605633
As a kronie, I think so too.
There was a period a while ago where it got worse (this is when she'd put multiple art assets in front of her tits to build a wall).
Right now she still tends to place her model too low so they're out of frame but she doesn't build walls anymore.
We're starting her ovaries back up, she's like a truck that's been left in a warehouse for 50 years.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me dick her down.
I can fix her.
My cock can fix her.

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>>27598107
Birthday call-in drama is so fucking trite.
That said, Selen's birthday stream where she had everybody on call but Petra was hilarious. Kusogaki penguin

[Anonymous No.]

This went from potentially supportive messages about being worried from Kronii's mental health to fascinating about giving her a paizuri real fast
The duality of vtuber viewers

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>>27598086
Because her fans wants her to be. So fuck kronies and their cringe.

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>she

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>>27606045
Kronii's mental health is directly tied to her sexuality anon.
She's depressed because she is rejecting her nature. Right now there is a war going on inside her brain between her past self and the combined sexual energies of hundreds of thousands of men lusting after her.

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>>27605284
that child? me

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>>27605848
you are just a retard

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>>27606108
imagine if those men knew the truth about "her"
Hololive is such a shit for doing this to their own viewers.

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>>27601439
I think so because historically it's happened for almost every form of entertainment that's grown large enough to enter the mainstream
Unless something comes around that makes vtubers redundant (like VR tubers? I dunno) the audience will continue to grow
Think about how people in the past viewed rock n' roll, or hip hop, or rap, or video games. No one thought they'd reach an untapped market at the time
As we saw with the massive success of the Wii, there are people interested in your product who just need to be met halfway to fully commit

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>>27600934
Kind of this. I sympathize a little bit, but, uh…most people who watch Kronii are guys. Straight guys don’t sexualize everything that moves unless they have issues (like most people on /vt/) or if there’s so little else to focus on that they default to that. Even with the latter, most people want to be nice and not schizo so they’re never going to say that out loud even if it is the case.
So if Kronii doesn’t like the insincere compliments and the pigeonhole, then…I understand, but also, what the fuck do you want everyone else to do about it? This *is* the nicest we can be about it

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>>27605848
good i wouldn't wish on anyone to get groomed into a troon.
so if your coomer powers combined can help on that end then Godspeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>27602755
>and is woman
>she
>>27602212
>she
>woman
>>27602153
>her

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>>27606045
I'm not a fucking psychologist. All I know is /infinity/ is the worst thread on the board, I know that Kronii has been a lazy cunt for reasons that may or may not be justified. I won't diminish whatever problems she may be going through. When she debuted she was all that was bad with council in my mind. I felt she didn't have a personality, I felt that time her fans showered her with money was unjustified.
Felt like the biggest fuck you to her fans when she streamed with her new years outfit while playing Ring Fit. She basically Streisand Effect'd her tits.
The troon shit didn't help, but hey, if being lusted over by men now makes her feel better, good for her.
I actually like her wit and interactions with other members, but I don't think I could watch her solo content.
Oh, and she's fucking based as fuck for singing A Red Apple Fell during karaoke. If she likes Gravity Rush 2 she can't be that bad.

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I wonder why a troon would be mentally ill and have identity issues. It really makes you think

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>>27606226
the whole point of that discussion is about how being a troon is making her depressed you stupid retard we all know she's a fucking FTM so keep your fucking reddit tier reaction to your retarded self.

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>>27606334
The legit ones are usually the result of sexual abuse.
For gender tourists it's just youth stupidity and peer pressure.

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>>27606308
have you tried not being a faggot?

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>>27606388
I'm not a Kronie, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27601592
No.

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>>27606385
>For gender tourists it's just youth stupidity and peer pressure.
true but if the tourism goes as far as taking fucking HRT the mental illness 100% kick in

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>>27606308
Shut up Midknight. You are one of her biggest yesman

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>>27606424
I take that as a no

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>>27606385
It's psycho people anon. That's the kind of people involved in the anime community online. There's literally millions of them.

Hololive hired one of them, dressed them up like a female, and is currently tricking all of their viewers while raking in money. What a bastard corporation.

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>>27606482
Who?
>>27606483
>take that as a no
Correct. I'm not a faggot, unlike you getting pissy over some dude's opinion. Good day, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606308
the only general I frequently post on is /uuu/ and it's very chill there, I always figured all other generals were the same

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>>27606045
Every time I hear that Kronii mentioned mental health, the part of me that knows how to not act schizo pretends to care. The schizo side of me is actually thinking, “If you’re so depressed about your avatar being the main draw, imagine how we feel about Wada Arco’s art being wasted on someone who’s depressed about it.”

As in, I get why she’s depressed and totally understand, i just don’t care enough about it not to mourn the avatar more

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>>27606429
Yes.

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>>27606548
>vshowhore
>nijitranny

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>>27606586
>t. pissy whiny faggot
0 self awareness lmao

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>>27605848
I think that she might be autistic or something, Autists seem easily groomed into trooning, I guess they just feel like they don't belong so end up thinking it must be that they're really the opposite sex when they find out about that shit.

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>>27606642
Nijisanji hired a woman to play a male character. But it's not a secret at all. In fact that person barely gets any views. They don't try to trick their viewers, they're at least honest about it.

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>>27606308
Anyone who actually watched the ringfit stream would know it was a kino stream.

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>>27606660
She's not gonna fuck you, bro. She's too busy fucking me.

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>>27606714
That's quite possible. Would fit her overall behaviour too.
But it's okay, I don't believe for a second she's done anything more than larping, so it's all fixable.

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>>27606308
Her sonic adventure 2 streams were fun. Haven't watched much of her other streams though.

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>>27606747
i wouldn't know i don't watch nijiniggers

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>>27606747
I never understood that, does everyone know but pretend not to care? Do they treat her like a man? Do they treat her like a woman?
And most importantly, is it gay to watch her/his ASMR?

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>>27606818
Autistic people tend to have monotone voices too.

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>>27598086
She tries to pull Enna's depressed femcel shtick, but does it much worse

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>>27606815
so thats why you are so adamant about the tranny rrat
you are a chaser lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606714
Autist are primo target for tranny groomer, this isn't an hyperbole.

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>>27598107
that reminds me, has Gura even addressed Kiara's birthday?

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>>27606870
Remember 99% of the fans of the boys are women. Women have a different feeling about these sorts of things. With that said, it was a huge disappointment and as a result she barely gets any views compared to the other boys. She was mostly hired because her PL had millions of followers, but it didn't translate to success

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>>27606963
that's about it

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>>27607031
So do her fans just pretend she's a man?

[Anonymous No.]

fake and shallow like all en members

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606114
Focus on your stream, Kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607066
Some of them do. Just like hololive fans are pretending Kronii is female. But the difference is, Yugo doesn't use voice changers and hide what she is. It's entirely obvious it's a woman

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>>27607092
ID and JP could be the most disingenuous whore on the planet you wouldn't even know.
you'll never be Japanese.
or indogs for all that matters

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>>27607065
better than nothing but idk how people could come down so hard on Mori when she at least apologized for not calling in and made a video. Seems like a lot more than Gura died.

More of this on the Holos of our Lives

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>>27606951
>rrat
Oh my sweet summer child.
>>27606939
Kronii never struck me as femcel. Kronii's brand seems to be more self depicrating and hating herself and just wanting to be left alone/struggling with confidence. There is a desire to be better.
Enna hates herself, hates others, doesn't need the confidence to do what she wants to do.

Think of it like this: if you gave Kronii some sincere words of encouragement, you might get her to show you a half-forced smile at you.
If you did that to Enna, she'd tell you to go fuck yourself, think on how she fucked up, and then say sorry and tell you it's because of asian upbringing where compliments aren't a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

you'll never fuck Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606045
look, I hope kronii cheers up and I know she has some struggles with gender and bad homelife, I just also want to drown in her goliath milktruck tits too, they're not mutually exclusive

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>>27607182
>Kronii is a FTM troon.
>Cant talk about her trooning or else its termination.
>Everybody call her she
based based based

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598086
Why doesn't her bf fuck the depression out of her? Is he some kind of asian with a little dick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607198
Mori did the unbelievably retarded mistake of acknowledging this seafag board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598086
>>27598661
>>27598727
>>27599163

I'm about but remember that there's more than one strain of depression and that just because someone else copes with/experiences depression in a different way than you do, doesn't mean they're not depressed.

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>>27607195
im indo bro at least i know the nuanse a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598098
depression is not real

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607278
That's okay, I'd rather Fauna and Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607484
Since Kaela is incredibly funny and sweet you get a pass.

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>>27607066
From the perspective of this board, yes. They all use “he” but can’t schlick to him because straight women aren’t attracted to his voice. That’s why he struggles. It still was a bad idea putting him in NijiEN because of his voice

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>>27607559
if that was the case you wouldn't be here anon

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>>27607065
That was smart of Gura's manager to post that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607588
damn ur alright also checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598107
t. Sharkpedo

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>>27607724
tardwranglers don't get much credit do they ?

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>>27605274
>>27599163
>>27605610
>>27599008
She probably has tranny feelings, she used to say shes non binary. If she goes tranny the vtubing career is over tho, even if Hololive lets her stay the gachipigs would leave.

[Anonymous No.]

I know people joke about this often here, but Kronii REALLY needs to be impregnated

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii is still on her edge phase and thinks it makes her cool. She can't even watch a pure romance movie, she'll only watch if its bittersweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27600902
I just use their name to avoid all of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>27598751
Based Suisei reverse logic poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27607866
you never will be

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>>27599850
Yes, but most kill themselves with slow methods like alcoholism or smoking. A minority of the depressed/despaired poorfags straight up cause accidents to be gone, be it smashing your car into a house at 100mph during a drunk rage or misusing workplace's equipment to kill yourself.
t. third worlder and ex-poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606939
>femcel
Do femcels actually exist? From my experience even ugly girls can easily get bfs if they want to

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/x8yk5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>27608636
Femcels only want 8/10 to 10/10 7' big cock tyrone types, that's why they're femcels. It's self-imposed

[Anonymous No.]

>>27599454
Living in Canada though, so not the same diet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27608636
Not all incels are ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>27606114
Anon, no! On the swelthering summer of '22, you... I'm so sorry. KWAB.

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>>27609066
yeah but her parents wont let her eat junk shit and wont be "body positive"

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>>27598107
Holy shit. lmao