/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous: >>27486208

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

/vtwbg/, Autism general Edition

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL:
- Maps!
- NO TIMELOOPS

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Real pervious thread: >>27554915

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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>Special
We are making a /vtl/ team! Here are the current suggestions:
https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Suggest and add to it!

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new bread doko?

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>>27590654
blindchama...

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why is nobody posting yet? was the thread born at the literal beginning of deadhours, and everyone just left?

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SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS

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WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

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>>27593563
Aww, WAR anon got tuckered out before he could finish the full WAR post. Better let the old man get his rest.

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>>27592172
I just woke up

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>>27594818
then can you keep the thread alive?

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I can. About to get in the car while my mom drives to the airport. Give me time to catch up on everything

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>>27593563
You couldn't even go all the way

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So someone asked what Sumargo looked like before. I'll say this now. Since he was selected for a massive high priority target he is similar to Hamdani in terms of being top of the line for risuners. He is essentially a gigachad who of course slays pussy. But what sets him apart from Hamdani is that unlike her, he doesn't take advantage of people and use blackmail and guilt. He is VERY charismatic and charming while also being a kind soul that wants to get along with everyone. Pretty tall for risuners and nice muscles. Very nice Manchester and abs. And yes he has a slightly above average penis in terms of size.

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>>27595587
Fuck phone autocorrect btw I totally meant to type "very nice Manchester and abs".

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Also would like to add this, especially to the sanalites. Risuners are sexually active but will not go insane without sex. Cahya is the best example of this. They are in fact capable of going weeks without fucking. Enoch in particular is gonna focus less on sex and more on 'how does this shit work'? He's very curious about pretty much everything

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>>27595498
Holy shit it's WARanons son taking his first steps as the successor. Congrats on getting a risuner pregnant WARanon. I'm sure you will be a great dad.

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>>27595707
So basically, the first guy to get a bullet in his brain for asking about our tech too much. Nice to know with who the massacre will start.

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>>27595707
whole weeks? very impressive.

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>>27593563
Its okay Waranon, premature postsending happens to many anons at one point or another

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>>27596169
Well? You get your wish! A serving of Squrriel meat for every crew member!

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>>27595750
Malepreg

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>>27596265
Hehehehe...

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>>27596265
Human meat with squirrel tails and ears. Fucking cannibals.

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GOOD MORNING!!!! DID WE FINISH OUR DEAL RISUNER YET OR DO I NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING?

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>>27596519
...we ain't the same species, so we can't be considered cannibals. They are just another form of cattle for us, if you will.

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>>27596613
you monsters... CATTLE!! Poor squirrels.... maybe they will need some opium cope.

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>>27596523
Re post it if you could. It's really early and I just went through security. Only now will I have time to read the last thread before the plane.

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>>27596707
Second offer:
Nuts
Gems
Magical Plants
Guarantee from us not to interfere in risu or other nations trade
Tree guarantee

We get:
Trading city with everything we need to be successful
Small garrison and harbor protection
Road connection
Guarantee from other powers not to interfere in our own trade

OP DID NOT LINK CORRECT THREAD! I was lucky...

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>>27596660
Now who is the real monster? At least I give them a quick and painless death instead of getting them addicted.

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>>27596754
also trade tribunal is risu to settle disputes was agreed by all.

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>>27596660
This is "cunt sanalite". He is kind of a cunt so i tend to ignore him unless it generates lulz. I have a war plan if they really wanna gun the team down and it's not just cry for the deadbeats either.

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>>27596519
hey, you aren't implying cannibalism is wrong, now are you?

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>>27596754
Well shit. This is lovely actually. I did read the old thread by now as well so all seems good. Ok then you officially have my approval. Welcome to /risu/!

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>>27596786
Ah ok, so my lore is not wanted here in the end. Good to know.

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>>27596775
you don't know the amazingness our magic plants. they cure sadness, stress, poor eyesight, stomach pains and much more spaceman.
>>27596786
I am messing around.

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its only cannibalism if your guests know what the burger pattys are made of

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>>27596793
It's wrong when they're doing it to us. I don't give a fuck if it's happening to random people that don't give us nuts.

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>>27596824
FINALLY YESSS!!!!! YOU WILL LOVE OUR GOODS

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>>27596831
Our "ingredient program" does the same thing, but cheaper, faster, and most importantly, permanently :D

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>>27596829
Well it has 0 logic behind it. So yeah I'm not gonna take your ideas as actual facts. Risuners are willing to be tested and quarantined and you still deem it reasonable to slaughter them meanwhile your gonna ironically be bigger sluts than risuners by fucking everyone else. At least with us 'nut exchanging' is in our culture your just being unreasonable

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>>27596890
WRONG! we produce so much magic plant which we lace with chuubanite that it would blow your mind. it is known as copium by many for how great it is

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>>27596854
fair. helpful people should only be on the plate when they are no longer helpful.

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>>27596923
And here it is, back to the cucked timeloops. Listen mate, I don't need another reason other than "Sanallites think Risuners look and act disgusting, so they would sooner be found dead than to stick their dick in them."

And as for the slaughter thing, we are a fucking ingredient procuring research vessel! And yes, that includes the animal ingredients of this world, and you are among those.

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>>27596936
copium actually already is a resource in Vitubia

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It is the 12th century of the VT. Era. After almost 800 years of continuous rule, the Empires of Japonlonia, Hololive and Nijisanji had crumbled after the Calamity. Orchestrated by the Custodians, millions of faithful were transported to the dimension of Vitubia, with nothing left in their original home in Japonlonia but faint scents of Hot Pockets. Scattered on such a vast planet, the once powerful Hololive Empire shattered in a spectacular fashion, birthing many independent nations. Although the old Imperial seat of Hololive Global still remain. The Empire of Nijisanji was likewise splintered into smaller parts, though even these smaller states are barely holding together. The Indie clans and Small Corpo kingdoms were able to flourish on their own continent, away from the influence of both former superpowers. The inhabitants of the Neutral continent were able to carve out a space of their own, despite being sandwiched between the two rival groups. One thousand and one hundred winters later, the world is prospering. Technological breakthroughs were made and trade routes burgeoning. But the threat of the corrupting influence of Schizos and destructive wars still lingers. Gunpowder coexists with magical powers granted by the mysterious element known as Vitubium which had followed the inhabitants of Japonlonia to Vitubia, or were they here in the first place?

It is the 12th century of the VT. Era. Would you make war or peace? Under threat from the Schizos' nefarious schemes, warmongering neighbors, and nature itself, the only thing that will guide your nation is the Faith in your deity and the pale glow of Chuubanite dust.

***
Small introductory blurb on the project, please give me feedback on things that need to be changed. The wording and stuff is perhaps a little too dramatic and exaggerated but I think it's fine for enticing new anons. Not anchoring for now but if approved I'll put it into its own Rentry.

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Holy shit, Alice is fucking hilarious today with the bants. Between this and me saying WAR anon got malepregged has got me dying.

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>>27596936
Magic potions inbound holy shit.

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>>27596936
Yea but you need giant plantations to keep up the treatment. All I need is a watermelon knife.

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>>27597060
Not an accurate picture of Nijilands, whom in the south have been unified under Pomerlane and the north has been unified. Should talk about how Nijilands were finally unified by treaty and sword recently.

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>>27597071
WARanon finally gave in to his secret risuner lust. Either that or he knew he needed a successor due to his old age.

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>>27597131
Angu’s Chuubanite has made it a lot of fun with this!!!! Maybe we can use her chemistry for war too considering she is popular.

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>>27597161
Pomerlane malepregged him to produce a more powerful succesor.

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>>27597175
Reminder that all of risu plants grow at 3x the speed. We are a wood/natural food powerhouse. Wood is so important it makes sense a lot of people are interested in us.

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>>27597227
what if we mixed risu's chuubanite with angu's to create super plants

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>>27597271
Add Pomu’s and or Rosemi’s and that becomes a superweapon.

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>>27597308
We already have some rose stones. Oh shit things are about to go crazy.

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>>27597146
it's more so talking about the state at the start of the project. But I changed the part about Niji continent is it okay? >The Empire of Nijisanji was likewise splintered into smaller parts, though even these smaller states were barely holding together until recently. Unified, with bloody swords and oppressive treaties.

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hmm jokes or not, it raises a fun point. since agnu is about Chemistry, would her chuubanite be able to be mixed with other forms?

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>>27597351
2434 does too, according to Alice.
>>27597363
The treaty really isn't oppressive at all. nijiboys and 2434 don't suffer the fate of the south because the lack of schizos. Truth is despite Pomerlane's bloodiness, he is popular because he is a populist and his propaganda. Depends if you are writing from a cynical POV like is found in Magnus's own biographer. Certainly what will be known around the world is the Saga that will be prioritized with /wg/ to be given out.

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>>27597351
>>27597465
i dont have them yet because rosebud was kill when we were writing together.... miss him and pommersenpai bants

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>>27597465
trying to make it more dramatic and grand. Think the 40K "there is only war blurb" which is my primary inspiration. What word would you recommend? Or just leave it as "Unified, with swords and treaties."

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>>27597505
Rose senpai will be back. And when he comes back I will welcome him back with love, hugs, and anal sex. Truthfully shit posting aside he's in my opinion the best writer we have along meatheads and is actually my inspiration ever since the kronies introduced me to the thread.

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>>27597539
Unified by the Sword and Treaties, or in some eyes by ruthlessness and terror. (I don't know if you are going for that, but it paints the drama well and shows both sides even though the popular one would be the former.)

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>>27597644
Just what I was looking for thx!

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>>27597060
I would write something more about indie continent and Neutral continent, it sort of feels like the text just sidesteps them

You also do not mention the fetish continent at all

other than that, I like it, and I think its a great idea to write an introductory blurb like that

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>>27597634
i agree! he is one of the best here, i personally think pommersenpai is better because he is my inspiration and love but rosesenpai beats him in biology and dialogue while pommers is better at narratives, nation building, epics and capturing the sense of grandness and glory. i think both are tensai and so is comfysenpai too.

i am very biased so please undersand

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>>27597667
Risu is the fetish continent in disguise all along.

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>>27597667
Sure, write a couple of sentences and tell me where you want to insert them. The reason why they are sort of sidestepped is that their presence wasn't as big back on /jp/. So the first part is al about Niji and Holo. As for fetish continent I genuinely forgot they are a thing for a sec...

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>>27597768
Why are you now calling me Pommersenpai Alice? No joke, I wouldn't call myself Pomerlane anon because its too long so i will take it being shortened.

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>>27597816
Pomelnon

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>>27597816
It is easy to type pomersenpai than Pomerlanesenpai :)

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Have /risu/ finally set their relations to /nasa/ as hostile?
It's been far too frendry in the holocontinent

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>>27598121
I'm waiting for actual nasa rep who writes stories to reply instead of cunt sanalite. If they do kill off the expedition team I already have plans for their extermination

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>>27597799
>already we are forgotten
How long have we been gone? A few days, a few years? Architecture will never die, so long as there still stands a woman that wants for feast.

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>>27598182
>extermination
Kek you crack me up.

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>>27598301
we are...

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>>27598182
>cunt sanalites incites a war through the sheer power of his shitposting
My knees, their kneeling on their own

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>>27598444
I really do have a plan though if something goes wrong though. It's a bold and crazy one but it would work.

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>>27598559
Aight now you got me interested. I wanna hear this bold and crazy plan. Maybe help you refine it so it becomes less crazy, more brilliant.

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>>27598603
Secret plan. You don't get to know

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>>27598632
Man you are boring...

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>>27598432
The United Members of Architecture & Meat International. UMAMI

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>>27598811
lol, that's a savory name.

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Alright /MEAT/anon that writes with me, could you check our story and if the rest of what i wrote fits in line in regards to Quenti? because then the story would be done and i woudl add the End to it

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>>27599110
/vrt/ btw, me dum

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>>27598444
He accomplished what all of Pomerlane's antis could not, cause a war.

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>>27598967
It would be hilarious if a /umami/ general was able to stay up where /ag/ and /meat/ are pruned.

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>>27599570
we tried using runes and it didn't work, but yes, it would be funny.

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>>27599754
Actually that one worked!
>>27510194
The thread didnt get pruned
Problem is that nobody knew it was /meat/

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>>27599883
If I were to make a /umami/ I'd probably leave out mention of architecture or meat and be pretty subtle all around, "A place for those with a particular taste in chuuba"

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>>27600285
but will the architects be okay with us butchering chuubas?

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>>27600426
it works, tho. livestock getting fat off of livestock is hot for both of us.

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>>27600426
As long as we finish our individual crop are allowed to grow without hindrance and the patron goddess Mint is not harmed, I don't see an issue.
We might wish for the whole of the populace to be filled with round women, but we must only take one or two to be a wife. Those unmarried and infertile that don't bring more into the world are not of my concern past the point of fattening.

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alright, script for the language made. i took the liberty of creating a script based on times new roman which i used for picrel, it's a mix of preexisting letters and new glyphs i've stitched together.
font is here on a 3 day expiry (because regular catbox is down):
https://litter.catbox.moe/jr0znp.ttf

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter XXXI: Pomerlane Strikes Back!
https://rentry.org/yi4p6n

Leave your reactions, i love to see them!

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alright with the trade allaicne origin story nearly done and only waiting for meat approval and the /nasa/ story waiting on cunt

time to actually go to /morig/ and gather resoruces for the zeppelin a i had planned a logn time ago before loosing interest. but with my interest in it brought back a bit i might as well go with it.

https://rentry.org/dqf5wu

here is a small teaser of whats to come.

i would need the help of a deadbeat tho since i need a character that is of high enough standing to matter as well as who has lost his parents to some sort of creature that is strong enough to not be easily killed by 3-4 people that he is now out to hunt and seeking revenge for his parents


also if any saplings come around i also would like some help from them for a story

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>>27600851
>Mint
Is she a ghost too?

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>>27601223
Would you like to write an encounter in the past between a younger Pomerlane (like from where the TL currently is) and a Onabot?

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>>27601240
nah he is talking about the greatest retro loving dog ever

and yes i know what this statement implies, i know what i said, i am sticking with this

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>>27601205
senpai, your maps are so helpful!!

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>>27601306
nah thats impossible, onobots need to have read his mythical tales and confuse them with absolutly true facts

also if you want the services of an onabot you probably have to go to the fetish island

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>>27598004
If people want to call me Pomeranon, that is fine by me. I'll probably start going by it too since I don't want to confuse my character with myself.
>>27601348
Thanks Alice, I spent a good amount of time on that yesterday. Visuals really help understand something as complex as marching orders.

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Alice, I have an idea that will help us all out in Nijilands. I think I am going to make it that Ninisani really doesn't have much of a fleet because that's what your nation is doing and I am just going to delegate all trade, naval affairs and resource management to you while I do politics, army things, and the other things I usually tackle. No, this does not mean that we are all in the same Empire nor does it mean that I want you negotiating things without my approval but rather I think since we work together a lot that this would help us both out.


>>27601402
Ok, I see. I'm still not entirely sure how I want to write a present encounter myself...

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>>27601432
You're welcome chu~
>>27601655
but aren't you the rep? i undertand what you mean but i am not sure if this is allowed... if it is i would love to have comfy anon write myth since he knows more than me...

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>>27601755
I am the rep, but remember that I have wrote for your navy. You don't have to if you don't want.

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>>27601874
ok, what do you need my help on now?

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>>27602113
Ideally, resources. Although other anons could just tell us what would be found across ninisani

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>>27602165
Well looking over the climate and the plates. Lazulight and half of nijien is like Europe and southern usa. yeah is like northern china and the steppes, haha has a mix of tundra and nordic countries... and eastern niji en is like south china. Given terrain, i think there is likely coal in haha, lazulight but i don't know how fossil fuels work. haha probably has a lot of iron and mining too... give me more time.

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>>27602470
there is just so much compared to 2434 and nijimales...

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>>27602470
>>27602525
Then don't worry about it. I am sure an autist can tell us the minerals. I can figure out what can be farmed easily enough. you don't have to spend a lot of time on me if you are working on your own stuff.

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>>27601655
i am sorry Panon but the foolishness of Onobots is something i absolutly cannot compromise on.

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https://youtu.be/M6_OZb9m4K4

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>>27595587
Thank you, I’ll be making good use of this soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Morning! I wanted to dump some thoughts about the pregnancy cult yesterday, but when I popped in you all were arguing about something so I decided to wait, lmao... I was just thinking more about the social culture of the cult, because you can't spell the former without the latter! God the concept of sisterhood in the cult fascinates me. Cults in general fascinate me.

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>tfw going to have to write about squirrel hunters.
For once I'd like /nasa/ to not be retarded. Fuck...

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>>27590047
OK I wrote about naval innovations, bonk me if my reasoning was bad.
https://rentry.org/r9zo4

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>>27604389
I think the question should be how widespread it too, honestly

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>>27605803
I mean it's pretty much what every other decent navies in Vitubia are doing so I think it's generally fine. Though I'd still want the ships to have a little bit more Far eastern flavor instead of just ctrl + v -ing European stuff.

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>>27605894
In my mind, it's not nearly as physically widespread as its influence might have you believe. A sort of "vocal minority" situation where they're just so well-known and feared/admired/respected/hated (depending on who you ask) that their presence is a little overstated. In my mind, it's all confined to like, a single isolated village of about 200-500 people which is, of course, a really small number in comparison to an entire kingdom. I think because their existence is talked about so much, whether it's a warning from the clergy or a rumor from a wandering traveler, it makes it feel like there's more of them than there are, but their influence isn't to be understimated and they have been growing exponentially... [Spoiler] I remember when I was the only one pregnancyposting, and now I have a whole group of sisters posting with me!! Love!! [/Spoiler]

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>>27606172 (me)
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SPOILERS? DOES THE LETTER CAPITALIZATION REALLY FUCKING THROW IT OFF?

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>>27606286
Sadly, yes. Never phonepost

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>>27606047
well... I wanted and research it hard last night and this morning. but it was clear that those ships are inferior to european ones. i couldn't find a eastern ship of line or even anything close to frigate. it only makes sense given our navies purpose for it to look like this.

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>>27605803
Yeah, I think you're good Alice. Even if coppering is a little ahead of time, you explained why it was developed well enough. I also cut you slack since this is a counterbalance to your army being out of date.

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>>27606757
coppering is fine I think, its been mentioned for other nations before

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>>27606812
Coppering should only be needed by nations that have long trade routes, like 2434 and Morig imo.
>>27606650
>>27606047
I've said it last night and I will say it again. It's only natural for these ships to look more like European ships because Far Eastern Fleets did not have to travel the same distance. The only comparison you could even make from the Chinese Treasure Fleet Ships are the only thing comparable and they are from the 15th century and hopelessly out of date. It's not hard to imagine some of the facings and ornaments looking eastern but I don't think its reasonable to ask someone to draw things if they don't want to. That's just my opinion.

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Good morning, everyone. I only slept for 2 hours so once again, please excuse me if I'm particularly stupid today.
>>27601755
>i would love to have comfy anon write myth
I can do it if you'd like, but keep in mind I'm still prioritizing finishing the detailed docs for lucnox...which is going to take a while since I had to scrap half my drafts. I also agreed to help paragraphsanon fix the chuubanite documents so they aren't so confusing for newcomers anymore. If you don't mind that the 2434 myths will probably be on the backburner for a long time, I can take them off your hands.
>>27602470
No need to worry about the resources found in luxnoc territories. I asked a geo anon for help a few weeks back and am in the process of compiling a resource doc already. (+I have several chuubanite-influenced and completely made up goods in progress).
>>27604389
Please do share your thoughts! While I'm pretty much useless for the fetish aspect of the cult, I'd be happy to bounce around ideas about the culture and help you flesh them out! Also, I think you'd evacuated due to all the fires by then, but /vrt/anon expressed an interest in onobots visiting your cult.

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>>27606757
yeah coppering is fine and is what most nations with an abundance in copper are using already i think?

>>27606650
i man you could see what made eastern ships special and what of european shipbuilding sutff liek coppering can be applied to make them more on par.

not that not having the most "up to date" navy is really a bad thing, /vrt/'s warships are generally a bit behind and simply make up for it by quantity as well as having very modern merchant ships that can at least fend for themselves quite well

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So I take it 2434 and Morig (not counting Kronies because they shouldnt have been given the tech in hindsight) are the most powerful navies in the world.

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>>27607082
probably.

A unified /nasfaqg/ navy would likely be up there as well. Its just that most of the ships are controlled by dozens or hundreds of different companies each operating fleets between single ships to hundreds

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>>27607025
you can wait until you want to. its fine for me.
>>27607056
well, our navy is designed around quality... maybe our smaller ships will look more like eastern ones but i dont have the ability to make a eastern ship of the line.

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i think now i will work on chemical things will chuubanite. Angu is such a blessing...

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>>27607221
not him but if your merchants are using less well armed ships, i think it makes even more sense for why your navy is large.

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>>27607082
Yeah and I think it makes sense for both. Think they are probably equally, maybe morig has better training, but it makes total sense to me.

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>>27607221
i mena i personally got no problems with saying you got these eastern type ships based on whatever but due to european ship engineering and use of cannons ect they are on par with the equivalent european ships in use

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>>27607468
pommersenpai said we got our butt kicked in the past and switched to those designs... i think history in vitubia is weird because we don't have clear stories for nations.

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>>27602470
>how fossil fuels work
This video helps: https://youtu.be/b9qvQspSbWc
But the gist is that for (land) petroleum deposit to form, you'll need some degree of folding (basically the tectonic plate being wrinkled due to pressing against each other), where the oil can seep up and be trapped in more accessible places. That means they'll likely be near relatively new-ish mountain ranges and/or oceanic ridges. The most notable examples of these include the Ghawar oil field in Saudi Arabia, and multiple smaller oil field in Californian coast - in fact, Los Angeles pretty much sits on one.
Compared with that, coal is somewhat less dependent on geologic folding to form, since they're basically dead plants being buried and slowly cooked into chunks of carbon. However, because of said cooking process, some degree of geologic activity can speed up the process, increasing the carbon context (and thus quality) of the coal in question. That's why anthracite - the highest quality coal - tend to be found in mountainous places like the Appalachians.
The gist of that is that compared with climate, fossil fuel formation requires some geologic activity, although not too active lest they be destroyed by volcanism. That's why a while back I suggested that /2434/ likely won't have a significant oil or high quality coal deposit, since it doesn't have any significant geologic folding or oceanic trench near the coast. For the land in question, I would say coastal Lazulight might have some oil fields (and tar pits, like the redundantly-named La Brea Tar Pits). Western nijiEN, northern /rose/, and some parts of /haha/ might have decent coal deposit, although I would say /haha/ is probably richer in metal due to likely frequent volcanism.
Be noted that low-quality coal like lignite is relatively common, although they're, well, kind of shit. Peat is a similar carbon-rich substance that is useful for heating and agriculture, which is more common in (sometimes former) wetlands.

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>>27607221
Chiming in on the ships. I was going to have Yaminions be descendants of migrants from /2434/ because they're Japanese. The Yaminions' ships are far-eastern, so if you take that other anon's suggestion and make your non-combat ships far eastern too, then it would also make the lore fit together neatly.

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>>27607025
I appreciate your help in any area! Even just having someone to bounce ideas off of would be awesome.
>/vrt/anon expressed an interest in onobots visiting your cult.
That would be great! Would be interesting to see how actual visitors to the cult work... that is, visitors who are allowed to come and go as they please and don't end up indoctrinated. I'm sure not /every/ visitor gets swallowed up by the cult! I would love to use it as an opportunity to write more about the cult's hospitality and relationship to the outside world.

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>>27607603
Thanks! It makes sense now. Would there be a lot of rare metals in haha?

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>>27607616
yeah, that is fine. trade ships are trade ships so if you want yaminions to be related to 2434 in lore, that could work too.

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>>27607001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keying_(ship)
Far eastern ships aren't as un-seaworthy as you'd think. Some of the more European-esque changes could be due to pressure from nearby rival navies but a lot of elements like hull and rigging can still be a bit more Eastern-like. For the status 2434 has you'd expect them to develop their navy more and not just go into isolationist mode like the Far Eastrern nations irl. There's also pressure from their neighbor namely /ahoy/. So logically their ship design would gradually improve on what they already had and not just copy what the others are doing. Also you don't have to attach photos to every lore entry. If you found artwork of the thing you wanted, great. You are a drawfag yourself? Even better.

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>>27607555
in the end it is your decision, i will not stop you in what type of ship you want

it jsut still kind of feels liek youa re goign abotu this with the mindset of "need to improve our stuff so we can beat the kroniis" instead of having your own unique take and flair about things

and yeah sadly due to there not being reps for each nation there is sadly a lot that is left dubious and unable to be further explored

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>>27607834
She is next to a pirate nation too. Though they have no lore, they certainly have a powerful navy.
>>27607832
Im not Alice so I can't answer this.

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>>27607689
ohh please feel free to indoctrinate him as you see fit, onobots are very suspectible to influence that is brought to them in a way that just seems logical

and onobots already try to get people pregnant by any stipulation possible, they fear if humans are not constantly encouraged to breed they might accidently go extinct. that is why they would come visit in the first place, to see if they can perhaps learn a thign or two about pregnancy and how to encourage it among people

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>>27607834 (me)

jesus that was badly written even for my standards

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>>27607832
>>27607834
>>27607947
this will sound selfish and lazy but i learned a lot about ships of line last night and everything and i want to have the navy like that because its interesting to me given my ancestry. Pictures i put in because i love them in pommersenpais work so much.

as for kronies, don't i have a pirate nation next to me? I am still fleshing it out and everything too.

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>>27608083
Oooh, I see, I see. That changes everything! I was under the assumption that it was just an innocent visit for diplomacy or research reasons but if it's out of an interest in breeding and pregnancy, then that makes things more exciting. Maybe he can get front row seats to a breeding ritual, hehehehe...

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>>27607769
Basically yes - the mountains that form most of /haha/ comes from the (formerly-named) NijiKR Plate sliding beneath the Major Niji Plate , which gets melted by the planet's internal heat. This concentrates the metal in the plate into magma plums that float up. This results in volcano formations in /haha/ and mineral deposits once the magma and lava cools down. Common types of mineral deposits forming this way include porphyry copper, epithermal gold, and iron oxide copper gold ore deposits (IOCG), as listed in the video above. As the names imply, these deposit will contain a decent amount of copper, gold, and iron, but also other valuable metal like silver, zinc, lead, and tin.

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>>27608252
I just realized, all the anons who keep yelling for people to write smut are going to be REALLY happy about your stories...

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>>27607025
>I also agreed to help paragraphsanon fix the chuubanite documents so they aren't so confusing for newcomers anymore.
i have been looking through the archives trying to find areas where discussion was had on chuubanite inbetween the times where i was busy with irl stuff, since apparently this week in particular is busier for me than most, but i guess this is a fairly popular thread, so there is a lot of ground to cover. i've written some basic stuff, it still isn't half as detailed as i figured it would have to be, and that concerns me, but tell me how to make it better, and if you can think of anything more to add.
https://rentry.org/q92vo
please understand this is work in progress, i know it sucks, i just can't think of all the things to add unless it occurs to me, or if i find the places it was brought up. this is supposed to be oversimplified into a sort of black box where input goes in, and hopefully reliable output comes out, if you want a comprehensive overview, we'll have to look through the archives more and think harder about how everything works. soon enough i'll be back to being busy, so hopefully that will give you enough time to think about a better way i can structure this, and maybe look for things i may have missed that are also important. i feel pretty anxious about putting this out, especially since most of the time i spent on this hasn't provided much it seems. it feels distinctly inadequate, and i hate putting something so bare out, but hopefully it's decent enough for now.

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>>27608290
wouldn't nijimales have a lot of resources in them like that then?

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>>27608317
Writing smut is my bread and butter, been doing it for YEARS so I'd love to be able to provide some stuff here since it fits what I'm here to represent. I have the day off from work today, so maybe I could write a little something... time to figure out how to use rentry!
Maybe I could write something about a tired traveler stumbling into the clan on accident in the middle of some kind of mating ritual with Kindred girls literally in the process of getting knocked up. The traveler has two options: Join or be killed, because nobody can witness the ~sacred breeding rites~ and leave alive. I imagine that sort of thing is top-secret and a high honor to partake in, so nobody can leave with the knowledge alive.

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>>27608252
oh practical showings, the onobot is gonna like that, i feel there is much onobots can learn and spread among the retro reich from the cult

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>>27608213
Remember that you are writing for a nation, not for your own interests. make it make sense for them. ahoy has no lore so can't be a threat.

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>>27608717
>ahoy has no lore so can't be a threat.
That is a ridiculous standard to set because it infers that any nation without lore doesn't really matter or cannot be considered a threat. You cannot say "Remember that you are writing for a nation, not for your own interests." and then say that.

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>>27608717
i mean those are not mutual exclusive

but yeah, if anything its gonna on a future /ahoy/ rep, if we ever get one, to make sure his lore is on a reasonable level to what you have written before and not on you to write a powered up navy to fight a foe that may or may not even exist, we assume there is some pirate activity going on from them but for all we know a future rep of /ahoy/ migth not even want really commit to such a route for themselves

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>>27608606
Well, not in the same way - nijimale doesn't have (new) orogeny that leads to the abundance in minerals like in /haha/. Its land is likely geologic shield and platform, which are basically ancient rocks coming from the ocean to the east. The same process that lead to ore deposits in orogen also lead to resources deposit in craton, but I don't think they'll be as concentrated as in the mountains even if the total amount might be higher. I could be wrong in that regard, though - the Canadian Shield seems to be fairly mineral-rich.

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>>27608977
Geology anon, while you are here can you give me a quick rundown on what the orogeny areas of /who/ have in terms of minerals? I dug up the old one you made but it's mostly concerning the areas that are basins.

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>>27608893
>>27608964
To be fair, ahoy nor kronies are specifically mentioned by 2434's lore. It leaves it up to interpretation. But i still think you cannot consider a nation with no lore a threat/.

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>>27608893
i agree with you that it is wrong to treat nations with no rep as if they are not there and have no military at all ect.

but at the same time if we do go with the pirate assumption, what pirate even would attack a navy that is so overwhelmingly superior to them?

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>>27609109
>But i still think you cannot consider a nation with no lore a threat/.
That causes major issues around the world if that is your stance because lets say you are a landlocked nation surrounded by nations with no lore. Should you not have a military? That makes zero sense.

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>>27604445
Ah come now! Nasa skirmish conflicts with Risuners sounds like a grand old time!

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>>27609194
>what pirate even would attack a navy that is so overwhelmingly superior to them?
Well, aside from the issues of there being no lore for us to know. The best example for this IRL is the Barbary States, who were facing off against major navies like France, Spain, Genoa, Venice and Even the Knights of Saint John. We obviously cannot compare the style of combat, obviously but this is vastly different that normal piracy considering the state itself is a pirate state, if you understand this logic. Like you might have a squadron of larger ships facing the other navy, as defeating them will expose the trade. I can see that escalating but we are just talking in theory because Ahoy has no rep nor any lore at all.

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It is a shame that we don't have more Holo JP reps. Aside from the Sakuran rep who's MIA we don't really have any Holo JP reps post-Kronie timeloop arc. The century-spanning /ahoy/-Niji naval conflict would've been kino just like the /meat/-/morig/ one.

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>>27609194
Pirates would usually play by guerilla tactics, they wont even attempt to take on military vessels directly. Instead, they would plunder merchant and civilian ships, relying mostly on fear, not force, as in, give the merchants a choice between their cargo or a painful and brutal death. Most sane merchants would choose to give up their cargo willingly.

The pirates of our world did still loot British ships after all, even though the royal navy outnumbered, outgunned, and overpowered any individual pirate faction by a factor higher than 20 to 1

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>>27609508
Not him but >>27609481
explains why I think it can be interpreted differently than what we think of as pirates in the classical Caribbean sense.

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>>27609090
I wish I'm the actual geology anon - I'm basically moonlighting as one because no one else's filling the spot
I would say the part of new orogeny in /who/ is similar in terms of composition, although most of it lies in the /rrat/ border instead. I don't remember what I put in /who/ back when I wrote it, but I assume it's probably mostly IOCG and VMS? Maybe some Mississippi Valley Type? Overall, it seems the inland region will be fairly rich in minerals, although the amount of them in sulfide form might result in heavier environmental cost when exploiting them.

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>>27609500
or /ahoy/-/nasfaqg/ naval conflict. Its somewhat humorous that THE merchant nation got placed right next to the pirate nation

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>>27609605
This is the one >>21691766.

>heavier environmental cost when exploiting them
Oh you don't have to worry about that...

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>>27609739
Question for that is what traditional friendships would emerge. I can see 2434 having a tradition friendship with Nasfaq, not sure about ahoy

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>>27608353
If anyone wants to join in on this chuubanite discussion, I ask that ALL CHUUBANITE REPLIES BE KEPT TO THIS REPLY CHAIN. Anons who do not want to see chuubanite shit while we work through this should hide this post. But this will probably be less of a headache if we let paragraphsanon do his thing first, and refine the document later after he's completed it in its entirety. Unless he gets something wildly wrong, I ask that you hold your peace.

Moving on. Fortunately for you, asking annoying questions is my specialty. Putting together a comprehensive doc and then forming the intro based around that makes more sense than the other way around, so let's not worry about streamlining too much at the moment. First off, I think it's important that you include the hard limits of what chuubanite is absolutely not allowed to do: time-space bending, infinite energy, etc. Chuubanite decay should also be covered. Now, I am going to pretend I know jack fucking shit about chuubanite and ask questions from that angle. Does chuubanite decay passively? How does active use affect decay? I think there was also some mention of decay occurring more quickly when the chuubanite leaves its natural region of formation. How does that work? The document states that chuubanite has effects based on its affinity for the conceptual realm, but can one concept cause multiple unique effects? How does chuubanite interact with each other? Is combining different types of chuubanite in any form possible?

Please don't be too concerned about getting busy, or the speed of your replies. There's no sense in rushing the documents and potentially putting out a final product you're unhappy with, especially since the goal here is to make the document as comprehensive as possible. If this takes us weeks or even months to complete, that's just how it'll have to be.

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>>27609824
I think nasfaq, 2434, and morig probably have traditional friendship. Ahoy is probably backed by ggg, and meat. (Don't know about Kronies.)

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>>27609739
I mean, there's not much profit in being pirates if you don't sit near major maritime trade routes, after all.

>>27609754
Yeah, I remember that now. It seems consistent enough to work.

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>>27609739
yeah, despite their being no rep, it only makes sense for ahoy to have a powerful navy. Albeit I hate shoehorning like that.

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Wow, that makes sense!!! /nasfaq/ and /morig/ reps, should we be friends historically? /kr/ is interesting because of hada.

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>>27610163
>hada
Great point, Alice. Hada is a pirate oshi so /kr/ likely has a good bit of piracy associated with it.

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Unironically, Nasfaq will love the opium trade 2434 is setting up.

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>>27609824
>>27609935
Honestly, given their laissez-faire view on economy and government, I could see some privateer factions operating from /nasfaqg/, especially since one of the richest players is a marine fan

>>27609935
some nasfaqg companies have trade deals with /morig/ and /inifnity/ already.
Also, I would imagine /nasfaqg/ has had its own history with being on the receiving end of /meat/ raids so some level of historical cooperation would make sense.

>>27610163
what exactly does "historical friendship" entail?

>>27610394
Pagi needs her fix... she cant trade otherwise...

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>>27610425
I think historical friendship means at some point they were allies in a war against other nations. I doesn't mean they are currently but in the past it makes sense geo-politically for the nations i mentioned to have had friendship. That's up to what the reps think, though.

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>>27610425
just going off what other said with historical friendship...

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>>27608698
I'm super excited. I should be around basically all day so when you see this, Onobot, let me know!

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>>27601306
>Onabot
Hehehehehe

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well if morig, and 2434 are allies, the rest of the world is fucked.

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i dunno how to properly put this into words but it just feels so ahrd to interact with Panon's and alice's part of the niji continent.

like yesterday you asked me what the onobots offer Pomerlane for his help in love but like, what can people even still offer him? between NijiEN and 2434 you got everythign covered, one got the Land Army the other got the Navy, both outfitted with up to date stuff pretty much, all the important resources of the world covered. a big allaicne of all nijisanji that garantues no outside force can do stuff to you guys. Nothing reasonable seem to be able to be offered since you already got it all

and your countries are also so rooted in having to need to be comparable to real life and "common sense" that there isn't realyl anythign to hook there either. its honestly like at msot of times you guys are writing a second project next to the rest.

on one side are ice cream loving saplings, foolish and naive onobots, super paranoid sanalites, hoomans that are hardcore bureaucrats that love to see their neighbours struggle, pregnancy cults of the kindred, risuners that just want sex, nuts and rocknroll

and then on the other side there is nijiEN, a country that got people, that do well in fighting on land, and also 2434 that is a country with people that do well fighting on water

and then you got stuff like yesterday that just feel like "alright how can we maximize our profit" or "how can we improve our weaponry to maximum and cover any potential weakness" wich i get was a misunderstanding but i wonder if this overall disconnect of the two sides is not the basis of why it came to it

thats it like, i would like to interact with you two within this world, but i have no idea anymore at this point how to and the more your stuff is just evolving in that direction the less i feel i can because i cannot read up each time on all the reallife stuff your stuff is based on to make sure i am not getting stuff wrong.

and please don't take this as what youa re doing is wrong or so, your way is jsut as valied and it is not my place to tell you how to write for it to be "fun". its jsut how i feel and i jsut wanted to try and put it into words

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>5 hours mmo
Cute!

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>>27611187
>hardcore bureaucrats
It's not our fault those fucking squirrels arrived without papers

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>>27609500
>the Sakuran rep who's MIA
Henlo
Seems like checked in at the right time to see this thread.
Yeah, I've been away for a while, haven't been doing that great mentally and this thread was one of the least of my concerns so it kinda got pushed aside.
Dunno if I'll actually participate, but I'll try to at least follow them from now on.
Any important things that happened the past month and a half or so?

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>>27611187
You want me to tell you the truth about EN? We are disunited all of the time and in fight so much that we aren't a threat to the rest of the world. Maybe I didn't make this clear but EN's biggest enemy is itself. Check out our thread to find out. Pomerlane will have to deal with rebellions and schizo uprisings his entire life. It's questionable if he can stay sane long enough to keep what he conquers together. The Saga isn't totally accurate either. I can't speak for Alice but EN is basically the Eastern Roman Empire in how much it loves to fight itself.

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>>27611362
>indie poster
Quick! Get him!

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>>27611457
we got a bunch of niji writers now

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>>27611187
im still trying to flesh out my own lore and everything else sorry if it sounds bad...

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>>27611457
chuubanite might or might not get reworked

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>>27611513 (me)
the logic behind the treaty is simple enough, we hate each other but what we hate more is others trying to fuck with us.

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>>27611519
But Im already the indie rep

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>>27611748 (me)
in the end, you are right about me completely. Maybe I write too much realism and it isnt fun for others.

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>>27611457
hey Sakuran, long time no see, hope life will get bette for you soon

>>27610892
working on a bit atm but if you wanna throw around a rough idea of how it would go i am game

>>27611513
yeah but you feel so rooted in the common sense of our world that in a weird twist it feels so out of place for the common sense of Vitubia, but those are just my feelings so take it with a grain of salt

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>>27609863
i think the guy who did the magic quanta rentry did a pretty good job at explaining that part. basically, there is a quantum field of magic particles called magic quanta that can only interact with chuubanite, and assuming i understand it correctly, the chuubanite is able to store and stabilize the magic quanta, energizing the chuubanite, but it doesn't do it perfectly so some of it is lost in the form of passive magic radiation for lack of a better word. the surface area of the chuubanite is the biggest factor in how fast it decays passively, and when in use through activator substances, or glyphs, the energy is spent on creating an effect, but in order to explain the vote stuff, it decays slightly faster in places where relevant magic quanta wavelengths are less common (each wavelength is associated with a concept in the conceptual realm).
each concept can be said to be made up of multiple smaller concepts, and chuubanite can break them up to get an effect based on the affinity, but i don't think there would be multiple effects of the same wavelength. you might be able to have unique effects if you combine chuubanites of two different affinities, and this might be an area where the transmutation system can still be relevant, but there hasn't been too much discussion of that yet, i don't think. most of the discussion hasn't been about magic quanta, since it is both the most recent, and arguably most complicated entry to chuubanite, but it explains the connection between our world and the conceptual realm in a much better way.
i think, for simplicity's sake, we could explain it in terms of vitubium/chuubanite: the substance, magic quanta: the mechanism, and the conceptual realm: the magic. the conceptual realm can be compared to warhammer's warp, in it there are gods associated with all concepts, but some gods are more powerful based on how influential they are throughout the universe, and how much belief/dedication there is to their concepts. chuubas in our system would take on that role, though there would also be concepts that do not represent chuubas for threads that don't have one. chuubanite exists in all realms as far as i understand it in this setting, so magic quanta would have to not only exist in all realms, but would in fact need to connect them.
theoretically, if you had enough chuubanite, you should be able to create a portal from one realm to another in the same way you ca theoretically make a worm hole in our universe if you had an absolutely absurd amount of energy, that is what happened when we went from /jp/ to /vt/, which had to have required a lot of chuubanite to work, and probably only worked because it involved a janny, the pantheon of gods that preside over specific realms instead of many for lack of a better way to describe it. magic quanta has a lot to do with quantum mechanics, which i don't really understand myself, but he said quantum tunnelling was important to how it worked, so i wonder if that might be how chuubanite is able to connect realms and what not.
one problem seems to be that i keep thinking of new ideas to try to connect everything together instead of just remembering all the details to archive. i don't know if i'm getting to be like the /nasa/rep but i do find it easier to remember ideas when they become so integral to each other that bringing one up necessarily brings into focus another. my addiction to lore leads to lore density, which hopefully will make things easier, instead of making them harder. i'll post this much and see what needs correcting or rephrasing i suppose.

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>>27607082
I think that checks out. In terms of differences, I think the Black Fleet would have more fine tuned logistics, training and such, since it's active across a bigger ocean and /morig/ is a schizo magnet, but it's gimped by the fact the Admiralty is almost never united and is always bickering and trying to pull resources to their respective corner of the Holosea. So the Black Fleet will almost never muster the whole navy for a single purpose, the only thing that might do it is an existential threat to the island. Nijisanji has an imperial navy, so the pucks stops with a single man who can concentrate the whole thing where he wants.
Also our ships are black and have skulls everywhere. :}

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>>27612845

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>>27612284
I am sorry. This is what happens when your an historical autist who constantly is like "Well I want to tell a realistic story because my autism will not like it if I don't." I'll be real, I really didn't look much into lore when i started because I was just writing for my own fun. I'm not good with scifi or fantasy things at all, in fact it actively causes my brain to turn to mush. Shit legtimately confuses the hell out of me.That's why I legtimately cannot understand Chuubanite. It's also why I repeatedly ask for help with dialogue because I am awful at human interactions in text (not irl surprisingly) Perhaps I should have understood that aspect of the world before I started but I was just encouraged to do what I wanted.

Alice's own lore comes from my intial help towards her (Albeit, the fact that the Emperor the CEO of Nijisanji who just drinks and "accelerates" all of the time is original). That's my fault but she can change it if she wants.

Tech, personally, I would rather be in the 16th century, especially with warfare. But to me, it made no sense to continue to write like that when world trade would just bring us modern weapons. If you have any ideas, tell me. I am not much better off than you are considering I don't even know what my final goal is.

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>>27612284
No rush! I was imagining it arranged as a sort of official, formal, diplomatic meeting between Onobots and Kindred. Seeing as random strangers and travelers aren't allowed to sit in on matters so sacred and important to the cult, you're allowed to sit in under the condition that you're kept under close watch by some other Kindred serving as guards to the cult. Taking notes/writing is okay but anything you write down will be inspected and analyzed by Kindred before you leave.

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>>27613072
>>27612284
Neither of you should feel bad considering you both bring different things to the table. There is more than enough room for both of you.

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>>27613466
This, everyone's ideas are valuable here. I like seeing the differences!

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>>27612927
I'd imagine Nijisanji has some issues with command and control, like there probably is different schools of thought that cause constant problems in them just like Morig. We just need time for the rep to make it.

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>>27613466
Seconding this. The vast difference in ideology and approach to international interactions also makes the world feel a lot more fleshed out, I like it. It does take a bit more work to make everything work together this way, but isn't the merging of ideas part of the fun of cooperative projects?

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>>27613741
only at surface level. im not as smart as pommersenpai and i only am trying to do my best for my nation.... i don't want to make it op or anything, but innovation is a big deal in nijisanji as a company. they are always trying new things and it blows up in their face a lot. i should have wrote about failures if it seems like it is too perfect... i don't even know how admiralty works

[Anonymous No.]

>>27613466
This. We need Pomerlane anon as much as fantasy. It makes things more complex and interesting as projects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27610548
>>27610627
The government of nasfaqg itself (the dev council and the republic army / navy) is focused on neutrality and defense, so those factions would not have taken part in any offensive conflicts. I could see them cooperating with a foreign power against a mutual threat though, but always in the interest of protecting the trade flowing to, through, and from, nasfaqg.

In a sense, the republic government is like a male lion. A powerful but incredibly lazy entity that will only wake up when it is truly needed, do the shit it is required to do as efficiently as possible, and then go back to taking naps. It wants to stay politically and militarily neutral, but still have cordial relationships with as many foreign powers as possible.

The more active part of nasfaqg, the many companies, merchant houses, and megacorporations of the Serene Republic, can take part in offensive conflicts (as mercenaries or in the interest of protecting their and their partner's business') and form far closer relationships and alliances with foreigners.

To make historical friendship fit the decentralized nature of nasfaqg, this would probably translate to long-standing cordial relationships, historical cooperation against a mutual threat, and/or historical trade relations, and/or there existing a significant number of small to medium sized companies (or a few larger ones) that have historical friendships or have even forged alliances with the nations in question.

I think it would make sense to have a historical cooperation against piracy and raiding in the holosea, the sea north of nijiKR, and the straits leading north toward /infinity/. Protecting trade in those areas does fall under the interest of /nasfaqg/, bot the republic government and companies.

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>>27613072
nah i am not trying to change you and i got no solution to this nonexistant problem either or else i would have already mentioned it.

if there was one thign tho, its the same thing i said to alice in regards to the navy stuff.

why tho not? why do you necessarily need to be up to date? why not have a nation around the 16th century? risuners are mostly living like caveman, lunaitos are living like a medieval kingdom, the retro reich is for the most part living like somethign between the renaissance and the colonnial age. so what is stopping you besides a need to stick to "common sense"

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>>27613072
if you want, once me and the nijibro are done compiling the complicated stuff, and start trying to simplify it so that it's easier for more people to think about, you might be very helpful in making it good enough for people who have no prior knowledge of it specifically because you remained pure this whole time. we would be using you as a benchmark, so if you understand it by the end of our efforts, it would be considered a success. if chuubanite being as complicated as it has been was so influential to why you have been avoiding it, you could really help us simplify it if you were willing to do so.

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>>27614729
Yeah, I'll do it.
>>27614672
>keep up to date
The issue is that I run into the issues I had in Act 1 where I had to handwave shit with Ryuguards fighting like Romans. It may work for other nations, but for nations constantly at war and fighting against each other, miltech is likely to be up to date. As much as I would love to have Landsknechts, Pike and Shot and all of that, the more I thought about it, the less sense it made. I know, here I go with common sense and logic but I wouldn't be doing the nation justice nor my own work nor to my readers. I would end up as frustrated as I would with the close of Act 1 where I nearly gave up because I was so irritated with how I wrote it.

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>>27615444
KEK. Angelids would do this.

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>>27615593
>Yeah, I'll do it.
tyvm. we have some time before then to get everything ready, though.

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>>27614249
> innovation is a big deal in nijisanji as a company. they are always trying new things and it blows up in their face a lot.
Extremely correct and on point about Nijisanji. They pioneered live 2D and one of the biggest differences between them and Hololive is that Nijisanji isn't afraid to take massive risks, like opening an Indian branch.

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>>27615444
>Osman Trading Company
>Mercenary captain Skanderberg
>Both rebelling against Byzantium
What the fuck am I reading?

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>>27615979
Np. good idea for me to do this.

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>>27615444
the deepest nasfaqg lore

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>>27615444
>Nasfaqg Ottoman
...pog?

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>>27616254
>ottomans
>ottomans promoted piracy via the Barbarystates
>ahoy is next to nasfaqg
It's all making sense now.

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>>27612845
While I'm aware these things are covered in the magic quanta rentry, that's an extremely dense document. Remember, I'm taking on the role of a complete newcomer who has only a tentative interest in this project, and theoretically my only knowledge about chuubanite is what I've read in the intro document. It's fine to point towards other, more detailed documents if they want additional clarification on something after reading the intro, but I don't think the ONLY place they can learn about this should be a multi-page discussion on quantum mechanics, of all things. That's incredibly off-putting for something being advertised as a for-fun project. Your explanation here is good enough for now, feel free to add that first paragraph to the rentry.
>warhammer
Referencing other things to explain difficult concepts might be convenient shorthand for people in on the reference, but for those who aren't it places an unnecessary burden on the reader. Having to go do research on completely unrelated media just to understand the project is, again, off-putting. This intro's explanations should be self-contained. I do like the way you've simplified it here, it's just a matter of phrasing this explanation in a way that doesn't rely on outside knowledge.
>theoretical wormholes
No one nation should realistically be able to gather enough chuubanite to perform time-space shenanigans, so this exception to the rule should be left out of the intro. You don't want to accidentally confuse newcomers into believing this is a power they could theoretically have.
>lore density
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's good for the detailed explanations to exist because it clears up confusion when people disagree on something, the important thing is to just make sure the super dense lore isn't the only reference for the subject that exists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27613197
it would probably start soemthing like an onobot just showing up some day in your lands asking to be shown the cult. your side than has to figure out how to deal with that^^

>>27615593
yeah is fine, again this is not really an issue and just a me thing, i honestly have no idea where i wanted to go with all of this anyway

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>>27616066
>>27616137
>>27616254
Some bizarro timeline

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>>27616585
Well its ok to voice your own feelings, Never feel like you cannot do that with anything I ever write.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27615988
...But my question to this thread is should how a company operates IRL affect lore. Ive watch nijisanji since 2018 and maybe that's clouding my perception.

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>>27616915
Possibly the strength of the faith?
If the company is stable then the faith is strong with its followers zealous
If the company is going through plenty of problems, like Cyberlive and Wactor, then non-believers and schisms are bound to happen

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>>27616915
i mean its not wrong to burrow in that direction but at the heart of it you are not writing about nijisanji the tech company as a nation but /2434/ the thread on /vt/ that on occassion talks about chuubas from that company as a nation

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>>27616915
Vitubia is first and foremost a reflection of 4chan. How the company operates would affect your mythology more than your nation, since it's Heavenly Realm stuff. Your nation should be based more on thread culture, with things like how the company operates only affecting it indirectly due to the influence of the religion.

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>>27616915
I can't give you the answer for everyone, but since you wrote Rikun directly into your lore as a man obsessed with acceleration and booze, it only makes sense to me. With all of the other crazy shit that is justified, I personally see no problem with it considering you know that this is part of the gambling mindset that Nijisanji has that blows up in their face too.

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>>27616915
Acceleration is a joke in all niji threads, it only fits to take it literally in that way too. The Company itself would cause the mythos but the mythos of a nation is also the beating heart of it in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

If chuubas are deities, maybe CEOs and staffs should act like a force behind them
Primordial forces that cannot be described as gods exist in multiple mythologies
I think buddhism has it for their cosmology

[Anonymous No.]

>>27613741
Oh yeah, even an Imperial navy can have chain of command issues, as clearly shown by the japanese navy circa WW2.
>>27616462
Oh, when I talk and the Admiralty, the organization of that for Moriji is pretty unusual, because basically the whole fleet is a volunteer force, top to bottom, and there's over twenty Admirals who all function potentially completely independently from one another. Your admiralty will probably look very different.

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>>27616462
the magic quanta rentry is mostly back and forth between me and the guy who suggested it. i only suggested using it as a reference so that people who wanted to get into the autism of it had something to read up on. the simplified rentry would have it as a passing comment, essentially.
i went into detail with the warp, but i mentioned a comparison so that people who did know about it had something to refer to, and people who didn't had something to look to if they still needed help.
i specifically said theoretical because irl the amount of energy required for a wormhole would be insane by all our modern estimates. i also specifically said it was likely the result of a janny that it occured at all in our setting's history in the first place.
it's good if my world building style won't likely cause too much problems, and it is the plan to simplify it once it is all more or less compiled, so hopefully that will come without too much difficulty.
with that said, i need to go for a bit. i should be back soon enough, but idk if it will take longer. ty for helping.

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>>27617764
she has Rikun as this immortal man who found the "kami" of nijisanji. I think that makes sense in a way.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm debating if I want to write more with the /nasa/ - /risu/ story or not. Also since its approved I need an anchor.

>>27590047
https://rentry.org/MeanwhileAtTheBorderCamp

Anchor under cross-thread

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>>27617878
Well, the British in the 19th century are a better example, heck even the Germans in the 20th. IJN had more of a rivalry with the IJA than the division that the Germans for example.

[Anonymous No.]

Visual representation of /vsj+/ post /kson/ and /mikeneko/ admission into their sphere

[Anonymous No.]

I actually really like have the CEO of Nijisanji be this immortal figure that finds Kami more than does kami type things. It's a fresh take that I've never heard before.

[Anonymous No.]

/2434/ is set up interestingly because it has daimyos and feudal lords under a shogun, the Emperor who does nothing and a navy that seems to be more meritocratic, sort of like a way for commoners to rise in the feudal state but probably also has political admirals too.

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>>27618178
>Bolsonaro

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>>27618492
> the Emperor who does nothing
pff imagine a Nation run by a ruling class that does nothing productive and just fools around

anyway done my intro piece of onobots infiltrating /uuu/

https://rentry.org/qf5fh

[Anonymous No.]

hehe i think Nijisanjification is just us give the entire world opium

[Anonymous No.]

>>27618944
But he does!!! He just drinks a lot, and finds new Kamis, and urges acceleration.

[Anonymous No.]

WELCOME! To /rbc/!
https://youtu.be/sWEmJJOt7NU

[Anonymous No.]

>>27618235
Does he make chuubanite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27619375
no!!! he makes new chuubas tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27619263
Sounds like the Dao Jade Emperor
I think
Or am I getting my myths mixed up

[Anonymous No.]

>>27619507
Well, he discovers them. He's a bit like a prophet?

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>>27614249
>i should have wrote about failures if it seems like it is too perfect...
This is actually really helpful for getting others not to view you as /inf/ 2.0 /nasa/ is overpowered out their ass but all their early writing focused on them bumbling around struggling to survive, so they weren't given much grief for it. A nation doesn't need to be the best of the best in every aspect to be interesting, the struggles are what make a compelling story.
>>27616462
Trying to make the jump to the conceptual realm is /asp/'s whole schtick though, so it's definitely a thing in-universe to some degree.

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>>27619724
Yes, that is what i was thinking when I wrote that! Although i don't know of an immortal prophet who can be interacted with and technically rules an empire...

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>>27619926
Well unless he's actually /here/ and posts on /vt/ he cant be a leader

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>>27619919
Well, i wanted to talk about success before failure as failure requires me to do more research... the piece i wrote did not include dumb ideas because it was just innovations...
>>27620098
well, rikun is like the emperor of japan in that he is a figurehead with no power at all. I have a shogun who is the real ruler.

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>>27618058
Yeah, you're right. I guess the gist of it is that there's no perfect military command structure kek.

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>>27620098
It depends on how we interpret the Emperor of Japan during the Sengoku period, as that's what I think she went for in that he is a divine being without any actual power.
>>27620497
Yep. There will always be different schools of thought, sometimes it will cause more issues than others, see Jeane Ercole and the French navy during the late 19th century making France a second rate naval power permenantly.

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>>27619919
>Trying to make the jump to the conceptual realm is /asp/'s whole schtick
Yeah, but their whole thing is that they aim to turn mortals into gods and cross the realms that way. This is more on the subject of creating portals to jump back and forth. I don't think /asp/ has any lore aside from that one paragraph in the archive, but from that paragraph I get the impression that "connecting the realms" is, itself, the concept their chuubanite connects with and it has no other power aside from that. It's a whole heap of exceptions piled on exceptions and not something that I think should be included in a general intro, which should focus on the rules of chuubanite instead. Finding ways to bend the rules without breaking them is all well and good, but for people to do that in a way that makes sense, the rules must first be laid out clearly.

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>>27620289
>>27620677
my goodness, you two are practically siblings.

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I got stupid lucky with /nasa/'s technology despite all the drawbacks. The biggest drawback is the lack of manufacturing and population. No manufacturing or soldiers, no offensive wars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27620966
Don't say that with ogisner around.

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>>27601205
AHH THATS THE GOOD SHIT
Great work as always!

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>>27609863
I want to take part in this.

>1. Hard Limits.
a. Space-time bending,and by extension, manipulation of gravity. (Most of the things people would want to use gravity or anti-gravity chuubanite for can be also achieved with by having chuubanite just generate a force.)

b. No blatantly breaking the laws of physics. No creation of energy, endless acceleration, acceleration beyond the speed of light limit, or perpetual motion machines. No immovable objects or unstoppable forces.
Portals (like wormholes) theoretically possible but beyond the ability of any nation or mortal entity in the current setting. Thus can be used to explain people getting transported in and out of /vt/-world.

c. No anti-chuubanite chuubaite, or anti-magic, at least without severe drawbacks. There could be materials that have anti-magical properties, but these should be composed of ordinary matter, or some other form of matter. No thread should have the ability to disable another thread's magic while using their own magic.

d. There is no way to accelerate the rate of decay for chuubanite. Thus I propose the earlier vote of chuubanite decaying faster outside a thread's borders be retconned. On the flip side, there could be ways to slow down the rate of decay, but...

e. There is no way to completely stop the decay of chuubanite, outside of the object depleting all of its magical energy through decay or active use.


>2. The barrage of questions
a. Chuubanite decays slowly. The decay takes the form of the chuubanite object radiating it's energy away in the form of light, heat, and some sort of a magical radiation.

b. Active use does not affect decay, active use taps directly into the chuubanite object's energy reserves and depletes them.

c. In my opinion, the idea of chuubanite decaying faster outside a thread's territory should be scrapped.
c.1. If the idea isnt scrapped, I propose the decay is unaffected, but the chuubanite object slowly synchronizes with the surrounding chuubanite. E.g., A /morig/ affinity chuubanite left in /risu/ would slowly over decades or centuries switch to /risu/ affinity, UNLESS this is somehow avoided. >>27612845 This is how I imagined the synchronization working with the magic quanta and their waveforms. Not the chuubanite object decaying faster, but slowly changing its affiliation.
c.2. If above would be made canon, there would have to be a way to counter the affinity change. Perhaps a specific glyph, or magical rite.

d. One concept can have multiple effects. Unique effects, not so sure about. I'd imagine many chuubanite types could have similar abilities, but the mixture of their effects may not be the same.

e. Small amounts of chuubanite do not interact with each other in any relevant way. A synchronization event only happens when a small piece of chuubanite X is brought close to a massive piece of chuubanite Y.

f. I'd imagine you can theoretically make chuubanite alloys, or chuubanite objects with different types of chuubanite.


Further more, I'd like the first proposed law of https://rentry.org/buk5e be left canon or made canon, or some version of it is made canon.

As for the new document, I dont think there is need to explain the magic quanta or any of the more complex stuff. The document should begin as easily understandable and simple, so that it is more reader-friendly than the current ones.

I do think the more advanced stuff should be included in the document, but they should be near the end of it, and it should be made clear that understanding the more complicated stuff is not a requirement for using the magic system.

The beginning of the document should explain the mechanics in simple and easily digestible terms.

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>>27621618
>>27621618
OH I HAVE A QUESTION? Can I lace Opium with Chuubanite from a chemist Chuuba or would it be leathal to consume?????

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>>27621865
i see no problem with it, why not
/meat/ already consumes chuubanite
do tell us how the chuubanite would affect the effects of opium though

[Anonymous No.]

>>27621944
hehehe i am hoping it becomes more addictive and gives more good effects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622035
Call it, "Kopium"

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>>27621618
I agree with the idea that the chuubanite should slowly switch affiliations rather than start to go inert. I thought that's what had been voted on desu, but maybe I'm misremembering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27621618
As someone who wrote hundreds of words about his thread's use of its chuubanite, I think this is a very nice, clear, concise breakdown for newcomers. Nice job.
My inputs would be that having platinum group and heavier metals, and nible gas have chuubanite neutralizing/repelling effects seemed to be quite popular when last discussed, and that with the way decay is laid out here, there is no need to make decay occur faster outside of a certain territory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622035
Risuners in particular gonna end up in hell, holy shit that's evil in its own way.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's a word cloud for the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622395
WAR Anon stays winning

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>>27622162
I think this is an unnecessary added complication. As it stands, the chuubanite will eventually decay, and the local chuubanite will take its place if the affinity is appropriate, so this already occurs under the "no accelerated territorial decay" model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622162
Also, I was there for that vote and there was no mention of switching affinities there, iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622372
Risuners really are suffering from all of the attention they get. They don't know any better either. Although I think we should ship that crap to /meat/ and /ggg/ in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622497
yeah, which is why I think the entire accelerated decay system should be scrapped.

The affinity change I thought would be a less-punishing alternative for the faster decay system, if people for some reason want to have chuubanite be somehow area-limited

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622657
Unironically, I think /meat/ would love Opium and end up using for their own.... purposes. Albeit there should be no nation immune to addiction to that, not even NASA. I am sure some scientist will realize what it is and be like "FUCK YES"

[Anonymous No.]

>>27618944
kek, i love the delightful absurdity of the onobots. keep up the good work!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27611429
It's not our fault you require papers from people who have no way of knowing said papers exist. You should have gotten them registered or something hooman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622657
some nasfaqg traders would likely try to test if consuming such a substance would increase theri trading ability, so that is another possible market

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622841
I am going to cook them

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622864
That raises an interesting channel of Nasfaqg combining chuubanite laced opium with other forms of chuubanite.

[Anonymous No.]

Shit, I realize that all of Nijilands probably have morphine in use already because of Ange. That's good actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27621865
not that it truly matters to me but i feel that "just makes stuff more addictive" is almost a waste for the potential of ange chuubanite

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623037
to be fair, im just thinking evily right now, i have better uses... like there is so much.. her chuubanite nearly perfect for about anything

[Anonymous No.]

So is it canon now that some threads will have access to like 10 different types of chuubanite while others are stuck with one or none?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622955
nasfaqg plutocrats already experiment with mixing drugs and chuubanite, in an attempt to gain better flow in mahjong and trade, and ofc, to see the market's movements beforehand, or simply in an attempt to have a good time. If they think a certain mixture works, rich plutocrats would likely hire their own alchemists and growers so that they do not run out their supply.

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>>27622955
You can make an argument that Pomu's chuubanite can be laced with shit because of "Fairy Dust". Albeit this is why I don't talk about Chuubanite and I will remain pure with my thoughts on it for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623222
Well, we know where they get a lot of those drugs from now

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622035
>hehehe i am hoping it becomes more addictive and gives more good effects.
side effects include not being able to find a mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>27622914
Hi cunt sanalite. This hooman talk to away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623317
shhhh.... that was a secret side effect along with shrinking breasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623222
Do they know about Writhaven chuubanite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623015
tbf Hopium and Copium are already resources that can be found in Vitubia that have similar medical effects if not even superior so it actually is not that much of a revolution

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623404
tell me about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623329
I may or may not cook them

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623418
Well, remember this is local to us. How would it be superior to Morphine, something that is still used to this day for trauma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623455
It's basically a hallucinogenic drug that gives you vague visions of the future.

[Anonymous No.]

Ange's chuubanite is really really power Alice. Like you could use it for just about anything imaginable in alchemy or chemistry. It's possible to use it to make Gold or powerful artillery shells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623563
I'm still trying to figure it out for other chuubas though... Ange is obvious. Deron probably can be consumed to make you into a berserker or something... Mya just makes you cute...

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623563
>Ange-chuubanite turns lead into gold, thereby weakening the effectiveness of chuubanite shielding
Not familiar with her, but that feels like it would work well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623703
Well, your favorite, Mononobe Alice herself maybe could be Psychedelic (well maybe) or you can use it for cuteness like Mya (Mya should also have something to do with Dragons.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>27621865
>>27622035
>Ange
/meat/bros! Our beef has arrive!

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623725
Ange is a Alchemist lore wise so yeah, that could be some of the most valuable chuubanite on earth for that alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27621618
This is really nice! I assume you won't mind if I copy-paste some of this for the final document? In the previous chuubanite timeloop most anons agreed that chuubanite decaying faster outside a thread's territory was kind of a strange thing since it makes chuubanite so much weaker than tech. It would probably be best to scrap it entirely, especially since most of the existing stories don't support it any way. Instead of voting on this and other chuubanite related proposals right away, I think it would be best if we first compiled the entirety of the new document, then present it to the thread for amendments. Only after everything has been informally finalized should we vote on archiving and canonizing the document as a whole. This will prevent strange logic gaps from forming due to having to mesh together things being voted on in a vacuum.
>the more advanced stuff should be included in the document, but they should be near the end of it, and it should be made clear that understanding the more complicated stuff is not a requirement for using the magic system
This was always my plan, I just wanted to let paragraphsanon + any other chuubanite autists vomit out all their chuubanite knowledge before I go in and wrestle it all into some semblance of order.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623493
for one Hopium and Copium are very readily available as they are natural gases that can be found anywhere, or in colde rplaces can be found in liquid state easy to bottle up

other than that, i guess for most of it they are basicly used interchangable as morphine but from what i gathered have a less addicting property.

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>>27623529
>A nasfaqg plutocrat, after having snorted a pound of Writhaven chuubanite, being revealed that Bread & Null Co. shares will be 3.5% off tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/vAkUFHP1iUg?t=78

Memery aside, i think Writhaven chuubanite would be popular in the serene republic, although owing to it bein gchuubanite, only available to the ultra-rich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623933
man i haven't seen this one in ages

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>>27623825 (me)
Noraneko should definitely be Psychedelic just because... well its the crazy stray cat. It also gives the user bad luck

[Anonymous No.]

>Plutocrat in /nasfagq/ gets the good shit he hear about from nijilands, Ange Katrina Chuubanite laced Opium
>Soon finds all of his lovers leave him immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623999
Access and knowledge of how to properly utilize the chuubanite is also kept from the populace by the higher-ups in government, so it will be difficult to obtain. Though some members of the governing body are known to be corrupt, so one could definitely get their hands on it for the right price.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27624040
I'd imagine Mito has crazy effects too. Nijisanji has a lot of chuubanite like that, even in EN with Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>27623956
feel free to copy, if you think it helps with the document. I'm just glad I can contribute to the rewrite.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep the opium! we want to taste Ange's succulent thigh meat!
Im going to slowly tear the flesh off her bones and enjoy every dripping heme and blood from my morsel

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>>27624283
truly a fate worse than death to a romance-starved nashag

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please escort the horny /meat/head out of the court

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It seems I am needed

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>>27624333
yeah, thus, only the ultra rich. They'd have the money and connections to get their fix every now and then.

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>>27624471
I have an appropriate image
But i might get banned for global rule 15

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>>27624470
Horny?

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>>27624471
see
>>27609863

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>>27624597
Indeed they are >>27624384

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>>27623160
well better get your thread to talk about more chuubas from her eon out if you wanna compete with nijis 200+ chuubanites, i am extending the list of chuubas for my thread as we speak to maximize the chuubanite we have from now on

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>>27623160
/morig/ has one type of chuubanite, it makes bones hard and Mont Mori cold, and we wouldn't exchange it for 10 gorillion different wacky new fangled chuubanites.

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>>27624781
Jokes on you, /wg/ has access to ALL the chuubanite!

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>>27624848
well its better to have one that deal with 150+ types i have and some of them I don't know what they would even do....

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>>27623160
>>27624781
In the new proposal, chuubanite's affinity is tied to "concepts," and one concept can have multiple effects. Having only one type of chuubanite does not limit a nation's potential for magic.

Also tagging >>27609863 so that this discussion is hidden by hiding the main post. In future threads prior to the completion of the document, we should add a "Chuubanite rework anchor" that anons can hide upon entering the thread so they don't have to see these conversations if they don't want to.

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Having plenty of chuubanite is fine as long as they all have their own niche
So even if two chuubanite has the same power (ie fire or mental powers) they must also have a different medium and nature
Maybe this fire magic chuubanite can only be used once before dissolving, while this other chuuba's can only be used passively in swords, while this one is bound to organic materials

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>>27624969
Sasaki's makes any insult and bullying hurt 100 times worse than it should LMAO

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https://youtu.be/w2FekNvNEdA
>Akira ate wasabi but forgot to unmute
I love this dork so much!

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Reposting this experiment log of /hlg/ Scientists, Wizards, and Priests testing various Vtubium

>Sample 1
- 50kg of Solid Chuubanite form
Affiliation: Kamiko Kana
Test result: Low to diminishing power. Fluctuations in output. Unstable physical properties as the mineral crumbles on drainage.
Addendum: "Who the fuck uses this?" - Dr. Konoe

>Sample 2
- 1 test tube containing 10ml of 1 mol pure Liquid Chuubaflow
Affiliation: Hatoba Tsugu
Test result: Consistently high output. Noticeable magical anomalies present in testing. However sample drains at a high rate.
Addendum: "Powerful. But fragile. Plus you can't find it anywhere these days." - Dr. Will

>Sample 3
- 1 vial of 0.001 mol of pure Chuubagas at 1 ATM
Affiliation: Kizuna Ai
Test result: [DATA EXPUNGED]
Addendum: "Yo what the fuck?!" - [REDACTED]

>Sample 4
- 0.000001 mol of Plasmaic Chuubagas
Affiliation: Eilene
Test result: [DATA EXPUNGED]
Addendum: According to researchers in a nearby laboratory (100km) from the testing site, a group of Jannies simultaneously appeared above the building.

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>>27624848
your thread does mention the extendend universe aroudn mori, that should give you access to at least 20 other chuubanites

>>27624887
oh no, i am not letting you off that easily, i demand at least one written work in your thread before you get access to the corresponding chuubanite

as for us in retro, i guess that means each chuuba that has been linked before is good to go, wich means i even get pomu chuubanite, i better decide what it does before Panon understands chuubanite it does it himself

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>>27625309
You will never have access to the amount of Pomu chuubanite I have even if you do get it first.

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I have updated Babel's rentry to include this list of Babel offices: https://rentry.org/v7hrv If I missed anyone or need to make corrections then just let me know!

>>27625309
Looks like I have some writing to do then!
Although, if chuubanite is tied to concepts instead of chuubas then doesn't every thread have access to potentially infinite variations of chuubanite?

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>>27609863 replying so people can hide this

>>27623160
>>27624848
>>27624781
>>27624887
>>27624983
>>27625309
Do keep in mind that the amount of chuubanite is still the same. Sure, you can have multiple types, but you'll have miniscule amounts of each type, and/or their power may start out as lower than mono-chuubanite thread's chuubanite would (owing to higher relative rate of decay)

So, do you want to have a bit of everything, but nothing being so powerful, or do you want to have a singular powerful type?

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Okay boyos
Conspiracy mode on
I think I found where the lost city of /OG/ is!
It's in the middle of the world, in the middle of the ocean
It's a small island nobody knows exist
Perfect for a small surviving remnant of a once global empire!
The last Big Five worshippers are here! Trust me!

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>>27625650
can only speak for me but i am certain we are just having a giggle right now

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>>27625819
I am forgotten...

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>>27625819
ohh that reminds me about something i forgot to mention when the map came out but on the northern indie continent there is a giant ass river supposed to connect the inner sea with the ocean that should be very visible on this map, is that just gone now, just forgotten, or not on the map since it technicly is still a river?

would like to know since i kinda planned some stuff aroudn it if i ever get other reps from the continent and it being gone kind of gets rid of all of that

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https://youtu.be/OUpbwBQ3qCg
In memory of the /meat/heads who died in the Janny dimensional purge

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>>27626102
I imagine it will be included on the river update since there's no reason it would have gotten removed. If it doesn't get added back eventually, then just poke the guy making the map and he'll probably fix it.

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>>27623329
Bitch, did I ever not include a Sana pic with my posts? That was a fucking hooman, not me. I will still cook you though.

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I'll bake when we are on page 10

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>>27626392
btw cunt you not interested in our story anymore? been like week or so

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>>27626643
where is the "chuubanite is everything" edit?

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>>27626201

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>>27626879
FRESH BREAD!!!!

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>>27626739
I like the gif personally.

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>>27626900
Please remember to include a chuubanite anchor so it's easy for anons to hide the conversation while the rework is in progress.

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>>27626951
crap, can you post it...

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>>27624848
I might have to go the anime route. Would it be possible to use /morig/ chuubanite to strengthen Sanalite bones just a little. I'm not looking for skeletonization. Like the /meat/ tattoos it'd be just enough to train and heal.

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>>27626580
Nah, the squirrels drained me of any will to actually write. You can scrap it if you want to.

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>>27627355
iirc, deadbeat chuubanite is fairly slow-acting, so it would likely take years to get your bone density up to normal levels.

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>>27627355
Sorry, the bones strengthening is the slowest and last effect to happen to an adult undergoing deadbeatification. If you want to get them strong bones you have to commit to a decade or so of being a skeleton.

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>>27627619
>>27627577
So that's a dead end. I know what I fucking said. Sanalites are professionals at piloting machines. But in a world where individuals can have chuubanite super-powers that's not saying much. I'll have to figure out how to engineer mini gravity wells to combat. Even then that might lead to background characters getting slaughtered.

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>posting in the new thread before the old one archives
couldn't be me

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>>27627831
Speaking of piloting, Deadbeat physiologists might find the harder tissues and thicker blood of Deadbeats will have a significant impact on their tolerance to high G-forces, like a natural pressure suit, but that's just a theory...

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>>27628773
Sanalites are used to high g-forces and not because of our suits. We can tolerate higher g-forces thanks to early age space training and a little genetics. I'm guessing deadbeats might not like roller coasters.

Sadly Sanalites don't have high speed air vehicles to make use of our g-force resistance.