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>> No.27452244
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Hololive sites

Nijisanji sites


Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.27452249
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IPO's working out well, huh.

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>74,504: AZKi (Hololive)
>70,134: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>60,986: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
>59,479: Pekora (Hololive)
>56,523: Shion (Hololive)
>34,880: Toya (Nijisanji)
>30,184: Miko (Hololive)
>25,857: Luca (Nijisanji)
>25,550: Kobo (Hololive)
>20,452: Mumei (Hololive)
>19,774: IRyS (Hololive)
>17,114: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>16,788: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,358: Lize (Nijisanji)
>15,866: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,405: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>14,737: Flare (Hololive)
>14,532: Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte)
>14,306: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,179: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>13,607: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,538: Ars (Nijisanji)
>12,087: Watame (Hololive)
>11,960: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,883: Met (774 Inc.)
>11,754: Ina (Hololive)
>11,680: Shu (Nijisanji)
>11,143: Noel (Hololive)
>10,756: Axia (Nijisanji)
>10,280: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,000: Chihiro (Nijisanji)

>> No.27452293

The fact that Veibae, Nyanners and NotRushia are in the same company is worrying

>> No.27452303

For who?

>> No.27452311
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current numbers of today's race

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1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - Holocure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday Festival
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - Birthday 3D Live

3x: Hololive

1x: Miko, Subaru, AZKi

>2022 GOLDS
121x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>> No.27452337

Veibae and Nyanners.

>> No.27452342
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Blue women zoom call

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>> No.27452375

A true horseracing holo fuck yes

>> No.27452384


>> No.27452404
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why do you people say this guy is a nijifag again?

>> No.27452421

>streaming a dead game

she might get a decent numbers if noone streaming like always

>> No.27452422

While the information and actions certainly strongly hint, until the debut actually happens I'm not gonna speculate.

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June superchats
>>27236137 :: Hololive
>>27236180 :: Nijisanji
>>27236227 :: Indie/Other

>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls

>> No.27452459

he went full "SHUT IT DOWN" when the roa/meiro thing and the discord leak happened, but he let the rushia threads stay around. he also sided with the zhangs during and after the taiwan thing.

>> No.27452464

its over

>> No.27452500

Past actions in how he handled Niji scandals vs Holo scandals (silencing Niji ones, allowing Holo ones to brew on r/vyt)
I believe the one that gets brought up a lot is how he treated the Aloe incident vs Roa Meiro.

>> No.27452510

and of course the nijimeido is deleting threads about it again

>> No.27452513

I mean he literally is a """canadian""" (read as zhang) so the latter half shouldn't be surprising to anyone

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>> No.27452535
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This is why you zoom out kiddo, in actuality the IPO is still a net gain and it's not unusual for IPOs to fluctuate in price a lot as investors try to feel out the sentiment and viability of a company.

>> No.27452549

Because he is an actual nijifag, not like the mindless EOP ones who defend everything even if they fuck over their oshi.

>> No.27452553
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Pre-primetime /news/ update for 04-07-2022

Top ID Vtubers agencies

HoloX overlap chart

Recent Clip Numbers

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oh hey she's back

>> No.27452589

Should VshojoJP hire an actual AV actress?

>> No.27452619

no because most AV actresses aren't actually good actors or streamers.
A good AVtuber though could be a decent hire

>> No.27452624

they probably will at some point if the JP branch doesn't crash and burn.

>> No.27452637


>> No.27452656


Will she get EN gold?

>> No.27452675

Easy 29k.

>> No.27452696

Yeah, if they want to be a major player in Japan, they need to stand out by going after the mature viewers.

>> No.27452697

>not holocure
why is she like this?

>> No.27452714

>muh irrelevant lamey...
go eat shit peasants she's a fucking disappointment and should either change her color or graduate for the sake of light blue's reputation

>> No.27452727

She cant always spam holocure, anon. Its a good gane to check if her floor has raised and focus on her core

>> No.27452729

Why is theGunRun less well-liked than Yagoo even though Vshojo is bigger in NA?

>> No.27452749

Going back to the last threads discussion. What actually does a company like say Phase Connect or even VShoujo need to do to create a Box of their own? Basically being able to create an audience that not only will willingly funnel to any stream outside of their favorites but are willing to try and support new members almost unconditionally.

>> No.27452754

Shibuya Kaho actually debuted a vtuber model IIRC.
The thing about succeeding as a vtuber is that it depends on a level of commitment these women don’t want to put when they can get a whole lot more money showing their meatspace bodies

>> No.27452779

>EN gold
Nah, but she'll do quite a bit better than her usual numbers. 12-15k, even late timeslot that's really only good for Euros.

>> No.27452786

>fuck numbers
- Chammers

>> No.27452793

>EU times

>> No.27452798
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Thats who I was thinking of, dunno why Anri popped into my head

>> No.27452799

>less well-liked
Nobody knows him to like or dislike. For all people know Vshojo is Iron, Nyanners, Vei and some literally who’s that tag along that might or might not be part of their company, like Froot or Bao

>> No.27452828

This thread has been open for a while: >>27366695

>> No.27452830

>playing a ftom game

>> No.27452834

nta, it's still positive for the initial investors and the company by this point but day traders who've bought during its rise aren't right now, also by the current trend I'm not sure if that will still be true and considering that the company is overvalued even at its current state, we'll just have to see how it goes

>> No.27452839

They could poach one of the PinkPunkPro girls

>> No.27452851

he's literallly who when it comes to representing his company
Nyanners Mouse and Vei is the face of the company

>> No.27452868

nobody knows who he is, and he's not really a public figure the same way Yagoo or Riku "Talented visionary leading one of the biggest vtuber companies" are. He's uironically more famous as the "Former SC2 commentator" than as the owner of vshojo

>> No.27452875

Lui playing power pro, making a holo mem team.

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Nijisanji girl can help you , they're fucking slutty

>> No.27452893

If viewer retention on a given stream is 15 minutes, the stream is 50k CCV average, and it's 1 hour long, does that mean you should be able to extrapolate the number of VoD views out to 200k post processing?

Contrarily, can you do this kind of conversion on a stream's VoD views by dividing the views by 15/30/1 hour increments to determine the 'estimated real CCV', or just divide the number of views by the CCV to determine churn rate?

For example, a stream with CCV of 10k, a length of 2 hours, with 150k views 24h later, if you divide the view number by the CCV you have 15, divide 120 minutes by 15 and you get 8 minutes per total churn. Guessing that true churn is 15 minutes and dividing 120 minutes again to get a total churn of 8, dividing 150k to get ~17k estimated real CCV.

I assume if you took the average churn rate of all JP talents and compared it to EN talents you'd see disproportionate theoretical churn from EN, need to check. I think this calculation is useful

>> No.27452935

>If viewer retention on a given stream is 15 minutes
how can you be sure its 15?

>> No.27452943



>> No.27452955

This is unrelated but I checked that thread out and it struck me that NijiEN just doesnt exist there at all, and that is the general vtuber subreddit. And there is over a thousand comments about HoloEN in that same thread.
And that got me thinking. How does NijiEN generate so minimal discussion? Im talking about the girls now not the chinese fagfellas. They doesnt do THAT bad in CCV, like Selen had a 4k median CCV this month, and most of the others are like 1-3k streamers. 4chan seems to be one of the places NijiEN gets the most relative discussions but it is still probably literal hundreds of times more discussions about HoloEN. On reddit there is probably 1000 times more comments about HoloEN than NijiEN. Bae gets like 7k median CCV but a normal clip from one of her streams will get more views than like two months combined of Selen clips. Ina gets maybe 5 times the viewers Elira gets on most streams but in a single day Ina gets more tweets than Elira has gotten in her entire existance.
How the fuck does NijiEN not generate any form of discussions AT ALL? Like does their fans just not exist on the internet? There literally seems to be more Phase connect fans on 4chan and reddit than NijiEN fans even though they have 1/10th of their viewership. WHERE ARE THEY? Are they all bots or wtf

>> No.27452962

So vshojojp will be streaming on youtube

>> No.27452968

He's well known in the twitch-sphere...but that's about it

>> No.27452976

Phase connect and Vshojo already have a box. It's not as strong a box as the one Hololive has, but there is a not insignificant portion of their audience who'll watch anything that has the vshojo or phase con logo on it. The issue is that in Phase connect's case the box tops out at a couple thousand people, and in Vshojo's case the greater emphasis they put on individual talents takes away from the collective whole

>> No.27452980

>What actually does a company like say Phase Connect or even VShoujo need to do to create a Box of their own?
I would say
1) Look at what Isegye did
2) Try to follow their footsteps

>> No.27452995

because his own talents dislike him

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Botan's holocure, the only big number for today huh?

>> No.27453006

you are going to the wrong place anon, just go to iketog that's where they're nesting

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yagoo really needs to get on riku's level.

>> No.27453036

>spends time to read the thread
>spends more time to write this
A real autist, thank you for summarizing what goes there

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More like Riku needs to get on Yagoo's level

>> No.27453044

hard due to how vshoujo is set up seeing as how each of their chuubas has a audience of their own already when they signed up

>> No.27453053


girls in nijisanji = prostitutes

Why ? It's cool ??

>> No.27453054

>making merch about himself
even Yagoo are not this low

>> No.27453062

>sold every ounce of his existence for money

>> No.27453067

I wonder how many people in that webm are actually watching streams and are not just casual clip watchers.

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Wait, did Lamey just go on a break without celebrating her 1M subs?

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>lewds from yesterday
I pity the fools who missed AZKi gold celebratory horniposting

>> No.27453085

Niji EN just don't have much of a reddit presence. Not surprising when the r/hololive absolutely dwarfs r/nijisanji
I think most of their discussion is in discords, weibo, iketog, and /here/

>> No.27453087

Is vshojo even that popular in US? A lot of empty seats.

>> No.27453101

You can't, it's a guess, but Millie had 18 minutes on the example shown here. If you wanted you could run the calculation for multiple assumed churn times, in order to get a range from most optimistic guess at around 30 minutes churn time, to most pessimistic guess of 5 minutes churn time, then do the division of CCV to Total Views after 24 hours to figure out what the apparent churn rate is on a stream.

This is all very inaccurate obviously, but if you can run the math for every variable at different points you can get a range with upper and lower bounds.

>> No.27453110

didn't koyori did like 10 streams of this gimmick

>> No.27453114

You can't make sweeping claims as such unless you had actual data from both JP and EN side, in sufficient amounts to the confident that you can average out any outliers.

>> No.27453116

Time, it takes time to nurture natural relationships with your contemporaries and exposing this to your audience who in part will follow these group.
I think that's why debuting a group is a good idea because then it initially helps as you would see the individual and the group they were in, and Hololive's constriction of not being able to collab outside of the group helps as it already makes them make a core audience within that group before spreading out.
Also a lot of other factors, it's a stew that needs to be cooked for a long time, with all the right ingredients and time then you get a well cooked stew.

>> No.27453129

Why not go for the learning standard of 45 minutes when comes to visual media+audio

>> No.27453134

his co-founder Mowtendoo is more iconic than him since the guy was well known for his Gachimuchi MADs back then.

>> No.27453135

I've said it before, the entire nijiEN fanbase is here. It's the reason why if you only read /vt/ you'll come off with the impression that NijiEN is going toe to toe with holoEN even though they are at best a fifth the size, and why hololive lives rent free in nijifag heads because a significant number of them are only watching nijisanji because it's not hololive because of the contrarian nature of the people who frequent this place.

>> No.27453146

the niji reddit is just sad. it's a ghost town and most of the posts are either official EN news, gender shit or two of the livers spamming links to their streams.

>> No.27453188

That describes a large chunk of the NijiEN female fanbase yes. As others have said, the fanbase for the males has decided to set up camp on a fucking dox site of all places.

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Because of this. I'm basically just taking the viewer retention shown in this pic and assuming it's close to normal. It might not be, that's why I suggested to use a range of values to find upper and lower bound estimates

>> No.27453202

most of the people that run and stay on the discords are /here/. there was an anon who was there when the vox nendo news broke out and it had more or less the same reaction as the nijien thread here

>> No.27453225

hard to assume that thats the norm seeing as you only have one data from one streamer from one company

>> No.27453234


>> No.27453238

>Phase Connect
Problem with them is that they are variety streamers there is no niche that the company is going after.
We actually don't know how strong VShojos box really is, or what they are capable of, because they don't hire obscure 2views. Plus , it's Twitch.

>> No.27453245

>If we gatekeep all that garbage meme shit, we can have our nice little community! (that no one fucking uses)
Year+ goes by, Hololive becomes big etc
>Why does Nijisanji have so little presence in the west?!
If my memory isn't faulty. The early NijiJP fanbase that did enjoy their stuff gatekeeped the FUCK out of their community early. Yes, I'm aware that some level of gatekeeping is healthy, but the extent to which they did it stifled a lot of potential early adopters for the brand in the west.

>> No.27453246

so how's the gold race looking today boys
anything fun or slow day

>> No.27453257

>the fanbase for the males has decided to set up camp on a fucking dox site of all places.
they have to seeing as how theres still a lot of rm and past life stuff about them that hasnt spilled in kiwi and here

>> No.27453262

Again, that's why you calculate with a range of numbers from 5 to like 45 minutes. The real average will probably be between those two numbers

>> No.27453273

not good

>> No.27453286

I think I'm gay now bros

>> No.27453299

vtubing is a niche in the west and will never be as mainstream as comic books or anime

>> No.27453301
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>and assuming it's close to normal.
It's not, that's an ASMR. There is a reason Noel pick up these many views no ASMR, people only only listen to the complete thing (sometimes even sleep to it) but they also repeat

>> No.27453308

As I said, if you were somehow able to get
>Data from multiple vtubers
>Data from multiple TYPES of streams (concerts, karaoke, gaming, etc)
>Data from multiple companies
>Data from different timezones
You MIGHT be able to get something useable as you'd be able to parse different content and also find any outliers. As it stands, you could, at best, use this number for SIMILAR content in similar markets (aka, for ASMR, in EN). and even then a single data-point is iffy to be doing any sort of calculations off of.

>> No.27453329

The twitch audience and the anime convention going audience do not overlap much.

>> No.27453333

looks like a pretty slim day, Botan's holocure is the most promising stream so far and it'll probably top out at 25k, so this might actually take the gold today

>> No.27453339

not too sure about the Niji side but unless Miko or Peko do something looks like a slow day

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oops, forgot pic

>> No.27453346

Not popular with type of people that would go for such thing.

>> No.27453352

oh that might actually take gold for today

>> No.27453375

Anon, this was posted the day of.
We know. We can compare this to the Ironmouse x Connor line, which was really a mostly Connor line (anituber audience is way bigger in NA than the one interested in vshojo at a place like this).
Vshojo is, generally speaking, completely dwarfed in fandom size when you compare them to Hololive. Absolutely, completely mogged. Just because the CCV of their top 3 can compete, sort of (again, twitch vs YT ccv, 2 fistfuls of salt) of ~7-8k, it completely doesn't account for the wider casual fanbase for EN that exists thanks to clips and fanart and etc etc etc.

>> No.27453378

damn, getting some numberrot withdrawals already

>> No.27453379

>less than 10k on regular streams
you tell me

>> No.27453420


>> No.27453430
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heh, just ran the numbers and Noel as 29.2M views on ASMR alone, beating (or almost beating) Mel overall VOD views.

>> No.27453436

See the replies to Tazumi when they took over the subreddit

In particular, the one from ChineseMaple
>Hi Tazumi, nice to meet you on this platform!

>I'm a longtime fan of Nijisanji and VTubers in general, and have been active as a mod on /r/VirtualYoutubers for almost a year now. I can't say I've done a perfect job, but I do think I've come out of it so far with some suggestions for moderating a smaller subreddit.

>First off, the CSS on the subreddit absolutely should be fixed. Both versions of reddit (Old and New) need to be fixed independently of one another, but certain things like the new banner being off-center and generic is not the best first impression.

>A rule for "No Low-Effort Posts" is potentially a good idea, as it allows the subreddit to focus more on news, events, fan works, and discussion, rather than a rampant spam of lower-effort meme imagery and poorly photoshopped screencaps

>Automoderator, if set up well, can basically run the subreddit for you.

>Reddit has a history of "AMAs", also known as "Ask Me Anythings", where members of the community are prompted to ask questions to a particular individual or group of people, and are then given answers to them, either within the thread, or on a different platform. I find well-curated AMAs to be an excellent method of promotion and establishing community outreach

>Megathreads, Pinned threads, and useful links in the top bar are hugely helpful considering the limited space Moderators have

>Reddit Enhancement Suite is arguably an essential add-on to install to use Reddit. As is toolbox, for moderation.

>The subreddit must be actively and strictly moderated. Both posts, and the comments have to be actively moderated. Fail to do so, and this community may become a negative, toxic one.

>Fully bilingual, or otherwise comfortably bilingual moderators/staff is a huge boon. When it comes to official press releases/announcements from Nijisanji/Ichikara, make sure to translate it and release it here at the same time, so that individuals don't rely on Machine translations and misinterpret the text.

>If the subreddit is capable of reaching /r/All, I'd suggest that it is taken off of it.

>Once the subreddit reaches a higher population count, placing a limit on the number of fanart submissions an individual can submit in a chosen time frame can greatly benefit the post quality of the community. Failing to do so may result in rampant fanart spam, which stifles discussion.

>Permaban all the random bot accounts that will inevitably spam this subreddit.

>All in all, I'm looking forward to this new change in moderation/management, and I'm sure both myself and the former moderators of this subreddit would willingly provide assistance if contacted. Good luck!

>> No.27453442

even 5k is huge by twitch standards.

>> No.27453457
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>Why does Nijisanji have so little presence in the west?!
Its because the type of streams and content they do are more or less identical with twitch streamers and thats where their audience is gonna come from along with holo anti. I think thats the reason why nijien and vshojo's ccv numbers look more or less the same and that might be the ceiling for twitch type vtubers

>> No.27453462

>It's not over, it's not over, it's definitely not over!
Did I get this correctly?

>> No.27453474

Why does Twitch have such shit views compared to YouTube? You'd think it would be the opposite considering how much Twitch is shelling out for these fucking 15k ccv streamers.

>> No.27453481

The commonalities for the box seems to be:
1. Box song. A song where everyone is there. Ochame Kinou, rewind for Isegye, Blessing for VSPO
2. Box news. Asacoco and derivatives, A-chan’s monthly updates. waktaverse for Isegye? whatever Kaga’s news show was
3. Box events. Holofes, micrasportfes, relays (fuck CCVID), Any esport tournament for VSPO

>> No.27453489

>A rule for "No Low-Effort Posts" is potentially a good idea, as it allows the subreddit to focus more on news, events, fan works, and discussion, rather than a rampant spam of lower-effort meme imagery and poorly photoshopped screencaps

>how to kill your reddit community in one simple trick
Reddit *IS* low effort memes.

>> No.27453498

>Its because the type of streams and content they do are more or less identical with twitch streamers and thats where their audience is gonna come from along with holo anti.

>> No.27453497

Its jp’s best gamer playing Holo cure with no overlap, she will definitely reach 30k when she hits 29 mins on the run or so. Just look at mumei earlier.

>> No.27453510

twitch is only big in NA

>> No.27453523

This is cope. Holobronies could never fill in a room of that size.

>> No.27453526

And Korea

>> No.27453536
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Jesus Christ, it's basically the price it started when it went public (not IPO price)

>> No.27453538

huh, towa got 10k on a zatsu

>> No.27453543

looks like someone won the tnt contest

>> No.27453546

Vspo also have their NND variety lives

>> No.27453560

Blessed, they were glorious

>> No.27453562

Nah, it's pretty big in SK and EU
It's just not that popular in JP

>> No.27453568

She's talking about Kotarou being fat fuck.

>> No.27453587

Different audience behavior, and site reach anon.
Like, the average watch session on Twitch is something huge, like 45-50 min per user, such that the expected user-turnover for say, a 100k stream would be +100k views for every hour (I believe that's something asmongold mentioned once, and its in line with other stuff I've read).
Youtube is, first and foremost, a video viewing site where most people watch videos of 10-20 minutes in length, and this affects how long people stick around for a livestream.

As for the low ceiling, anon, ffs livestreaming is technically niche in terms of entertainment. 5k is massive for a YT livestream as well.

>> No.27453594

what is she refering to?

>> No.27453607

If Hololive had a panel at AX, do you think they would fill out the arena better than Vshojo?

>> No.27453612

She also got 10k the last time she did a zatsu

>> No.27453613

it sounds like a meeting that's going on forever

>> No.27453625

And this convention is in NA. If anything, having a mostly-NA audience should help them. That's a terrible excuse.
Only around 30% of HoloEN viewers are in NA and they can draw a crowd at an American convention. Face it. vshitshow is irrelevant. Cope, seethe and dilate.

>> No.27453647

It'd explain why there's so few streams scheduled for JP right now.
They're all currently trapped in meeting HELL.

>> No.27453652

Is this a serious question?

>> No.27453660


>> No.27453681

>Holosummer meeting

>> No.27453695


It's normally , she's holomem - mid tier .

>> No.27453694

Yes, it's serious. I'm curious.

>> No.27453724

The difference between Yagoo and Riku is, the fans are memeing Yagoo while Riku is memeing himself.

>> No.27453725
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Just not an interesting panel, ConnerxMouse was full.

>> No.27453734

yes, they would

>> No.27453739

I mean, HoloEN managed to fill out 1000 seats at some mid-tier conventions. Anime Expo has 100k visitors this year and not 1000 could come out for Vshojo at all.

>> No.27453740

yeh, also depends on what their bringing. I’m not going on a panel just to meet fucking Kson and hear the announcement of miguel cato’s second coming

>> No.27453762

That's not the whole crowd anon.

>> No.27453764

>And this convention is in NA. If anything, having a mostly-NA audience should help them.
It wont since they are competing with the same audience as twitch fleshtubers
Unless vshojo shakes it up they will always be playing 2nd fiddle to Isegye when it comes to numbers

>> No.27453775

Because Vshojo isnt bigger than holo in NA

>> No.27453785

Didnt the holobooth trigger a fire alarm or something

>> No.27453798

? Yes it is.

>> No.27453807

2 more hours before the VOX meltdown, and it will pretty much hit on indo prime time. RIP board

>> No.27453817

>Riku is being memed by his livers which has a history of making shitty memes that never click

>> No.27453821

Warning from the fire marshal for a fire hazard (aka, too many fucking people in the same place) was what I read
alright delusional vshojofag, run along now.

>> No.27453833

hopefully they'll keep it out of here, it'll make the thread pretty peaceful

>> No.27453837

To this day I have not seen a clip or post about Riku that predates his merch reveal or 'outfit reveal' clip.

>> No.27453841

If you only look at live watchers you will always always underestimate how big HoloEN actually is. Probably 95% or more of HoloENS fans are clipfags and only rarely watch streams. For NijiEN there just doesnt exist any form of clip culture. So every NijiEN fan is probably a livestream watcher. So if you go "oh Millie had 3k on her stream today and Sana had 6k, Sana is only twice as popular as Millie!!!" you would be insanely mistaken. There are probably 50 times more Sana fans than Millie fans when you look at all the fans that doesnt often watch streams

>> No.27453844

indo anon said that theyre gonna keep it on some threads
rip for the hijacked threads though

>> No.27453848

Tracking Holo footsteps would be impossible, they tripped and stumbled the whole path while getting lost in the woods and getting mangled by wolves along the way.
VSPO is also not a good example, they're actually inside the FPS box, the girls benefit from their closeness to Kamito and Reid.

Isegye is the only one that set themselves up from the getgo to make a box and it worked for them

>> No.27453858
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Does this look fat too you?

>> No.27453870

Kek, really? The number of visitors must be crazy for the Holo booth.

>> No.27453874

If only they had someone like Fubuki...
Someone who both 'got' memes and was a memester, while also being a very stable streamer.....
MAYBE the course of Niji in the west would've been different, but alas, they had people like fucking Rin, who hard-filtered the attention she got through hours of FFXIV (I don't blame her necessarily, Pewd's audience is an obnoxious bunch) but it did set them up for issues with expanding to the west.

>> No.27453899

Kinda chubby. Could stand to slim down a bit.

>> No.27453909

Yes Twap he's fat, stop making excuses.

>> No.27453918

Holobox secret lies in the so-called fermi paradox. Pass the great filter and become the most advanced civilization, and Holo only didn't pass 1 or two but fucking 5 Great filters.

>> No.27453920 [DELETED] 

Pretty sure they're being forced by the management to do that because Riku saw that the Yagoo meme is popular and he wants to copy that.

>> No.27453934

People here also underestimate the number of clip watchers who purchase official Hololive merch as well. They might watch clips, but they can also contribute directly to the earnings of Hololive members.

>> No.27453964

nah they've passed only 2 at most
getting past 5 would make you on par with disney in terms of size and numbers

>> No.27453975

Corpo mandated memes such as that of Riku will never succeed.

>> No.27453993

Let's try this.

>2 hours, 5 minutes, 45 seconds
>56648 CCV Peak, 51596 CCV Average
>20 hours ago, 385000 Views

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes
>125 minutes/5 minutes = 25 turnovers
>25 * 51596 CCV Average = 1289900 Views

Obviously, this is not correct, so the actual retention must be higher than this.

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 30 Minutes
>125 minutes/30 minutes = 4.16~ turnovers
>4.15 * 51596 CCV Average = 214123~ views

This looks a little more realistic. What if we divided the total view by the number of CCV?
>385000 views/55000 CCV = 7 turnovers
>125 minutes/7 = 17~ minute Churn Time

And for the sake of completeness, let's attempt a calculation of 'Estimated Real CCV'
>125 minutes/10 minutes Retention Rate = 12.5 turnovers
>385000 views/12.5 = 30800 Average CCV

>125 minutes/20 minutes Retention Rate = 6.25 turnovers
>385000/6.25 = 61600 Average CCV

>> No.27454016

It's why power-level friendly merch is so good. Most people are reasonable and don't want to wear something that blares "I AM A STUPID ANIME GEEK THAT HAS NO LIFE".

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>> No.27454055

>those stubby little legs that can barely support its body
Reminder that this like breeding midgets for fun.

>> No.27454093

Mori cosplayed as herself? That's pretty cool

>> No.27454104
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More clip numbers.
Pekora(9->1) at the top with MK and MH clips, alongside her strong old clip viewership. Hololive Official(3->2) also still coasting on HoloX clips. Shion(58->3) is a surprise, with Marine collab and Holocure buffs to draw from. Marine(1->4) also benefits, but is overshadowed by yesterday's performance. Ina(2->5) also is reclining from a strong past performance.
Salome(4->6), Miko(5->7), Kobo(15->8), Korone(14->10) are common top10s, with Mumei(16->9) appearing again with a smaller but non-insignificant Holocure buff. Irys(81->11) misses out, but has a strong incline with the same holocure buff.
Other strong performances by Chihiro(21->17), Ars(31->20), Lui(44->22), Debiru(66->49), Luna(78->51), Finana(97->58), Riri(146->61), Rena(103->66), Reine(86->67).
Split today is 18.9M(-800k) HL to 10.5M(-400k) NJ, as expected for Sun->Mon transition.

>> No.27454107

>suisei's phony is still getting huge numbers
gura phony fucking WHEN

>> No.27454125

Comic books arent mainstream. Theres like 50K people regularly buying them and that was before the pandemic. The Marvel movies are mainstream but all it takes is a few more clunkers like Morbius until that ship is sunk

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>> No.27454158

So vshojo JP twitch or YT

>> No.27454157

Who would want to openly associate themselves with Vshojo? Seriously, vtubing is already cringe as it is why would anyone want to out themselves watching whores larping as anime girls.

>> No.27454167

>Comic books arent mainstream
actual comic books yes but the whole comic book as medium including the movies theyre more mainstream in NA thats why anime movies rarely do well compared to comic book movies

>> No.27454180

Some weird news, a vtuber who graduated five months ago is releasing an new original song? This is the vtuber that has the paper face. Has she reincarnated anywhere?

>> No.27454188


billie eilish is her idol , bro

>> No.27454189

theyre gonna get fucked in yt if they go there

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>> No.27454210

Kek vshojotards are back honking they're relevant huh? What some news putting you in apublic view does to a fanbase

>> No.27454215

Since Vshojo hired two ex Holo are they targeting the Hololive audience?

>> No.27454218

Sorry she apparently graduated a year ago.

>> No.27454241

>18.9M(-800k) HL to 10.5M(-400k) NJ
Even with graduation buff, Niji clips still lost to Holo clips?

>> No.27454243

“Mori” can fill out a 1000 person room casually. This should give some perspective on this. VShojo is less of an attraction than 1 Holos B-side.

>> No.27454244

Why do you think they wear the mask?

>> No.27454252

Not gonna, I really want to see what will happen when Rushia's hardcore gachikoi clash with VShoujo fans from twitch.

>> No.27454260

status on kobo vs vox?

>> No.27454263

They don't really understand the jap market so they bought two superstars thinking that will work. They forgot the package deal that is all their many antis

>> No.27454264

Nene 10k ark.

>> No.27454271

If that was the goal they probably shouldn't have gone for mike.

>> No.27454275

Dont think so, she might have just been on a sabbatical rather than a graduation like that vtuber that was /here/

>> No.27454288

Hololive has around 18-19M clip views every day. To put into perspective, MrBeast's content will take around a week to reach over 10M views.
That's insane how clip views have shaped the success of Hololive.

>> No.27454293


>> No.27454296

>Why does Nijisanji have so little presence in the west?!
Ironically because they dont have a box. Unlike holo, nijilivers are focused on their own self or circles. They dont care about other livers they barely in touch with (understandable). This was especially so for the popular ones at the time. Hence why those who thought they dont need the new eop audience were driving them away instead of embracing them since EOPs werent that much in numbers anyway. This was not just niji, many other groups also didnt care about EOPs existence back in the day.
Only hololive were the one that actually embrace their eops since FBK (and Korone) was a huge westaboo. She embraced western memes and made contents from it. She and the other girls became viral, and their 2views mindset capitalized the shit outta of it with huge boost from coco's familiarity with eop friendly contents. They and their small fanbase were also very patient in educating the eops on JPstyle streaming culture instead of gatekeeping the shit out of their own fanbases just cause some newfags spamming pog and based.

>> No.27454312

They want their VShojoJP branch to be seen as 'legit'. Its really going to be dependent on the future talent they pick up

>> No.27454313

Never, and you know it.

>> No.27454314

Mike got 40k on her RM channel. She's still crazy popular and has a massive fanbase. Nobody gives two fucks about the contract breaking, vshojo isn't run by Japanese businessmen. It's actually a pretty smart move.

>> No.27454319

nope quite the opposite they are targeting the anti holo audience

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More clip numbers, other here >>27454104
As with the other graph, Shion(43->1), Irys(65->3), Mumei(9->7) all have holocure buffs. The top 3 have strong performances, with Ina(1->4) and Marine(2->6) having sharp drops from yesterday.
Ars(12->9) and Chihiro(14->10) have good performances from whatever they did. Nijisanji Official(58->16) and Riri(97->18) both have sharp increases too, which I am guessing is from the recent graduation talk.
Otherwise strong performances from Lui(34->14), Luna(71->21), Koyori(38->23), Debiru(73->25), Finana(91->27), Fuwa(44->30), Rena(96->31), Lize(67->36).
Split here is 7.6M(-700k) HL to 3.0M(+140k) NJ.

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>are they targeting the Hololive audience
Of course they are, things like these are the perfect draw to pull in the crowd currently watching Hololive

Funny thing is that kson will end up sandwiched in the middle of two worlds
>not hardcore enough for the VShojo crowd
>too hardcore for her casual JP audience

>> No.27454342

Still at 1k difference

>> No.27454347

Yea that's fat AF wtf Towa?

>> No.27454349

>Mike got 40k on her RM channel.
source? she really got 40k ccv regularly on that channel?

>> No.27454350

>anti holo audience
Which is who? Anti idol army from youtube comments?

>> No.27454354
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Forgot to say this is recent only (<2 Days).
Graph otherwise.

>> No.27454368

His actual graduation wont' be until later this month, dingus.

>> No.27454370

Yeah? No that was because of the scandal

>> No.27454373

former Holofans Nijien crowd

>> No.27454374

>Mike got 40k on her RM channel
In that debut of hers? Tourists waiting for either something salacious or another menhera breakdown.
Which I assume will be her initial audience as well

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I don't know if these reddit people understand where the "EN market" is from.
Feel like I hardly see them talking about CN side of things when mentioning Luxiem, maybe I just need to lurk more

>> No.27454386

she got more than 40k for her L2D debut i think

>> No.27454395

She had a proper graduation live if I remember though she might have un-graduated.

>> No.27454400

>former Holofans Nijien crowd
In Japan and in Japanese? That would be unexpected

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Indochad status ?

>> No.27454418

Well they're not pulling me in, I have a disdain for crass zoomer humor

>> No.27454429

>in that debut of hers
Uh, no. In her debut she got 60k. She only streamed like 3-4 more times afterwards but she averaged 35-40k.

>> No.27454443

It'd be extremely painful, I suppose

>> No.27454449

>I don't know if these reddit people understand where the "EN market" is from.
It's just /here/ that people really scream NIJI CN NIJI CN NIJI CN
Most people will see the EN on their name and assume all the sucess comes from there

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I'm ready

>> No.27454460
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If you think that's bad, wait for when they suck kson right into their local politics discussion

>> No.27454461

thats why i think that the whole jp schtick is targeting the en crowd more than the jp crowd. the jp branch thing might just be a way to put a made in japan seal to appease the weebos

>> No.27454463

>27. Finana
>35. Salome
Gogo fish mogging Salami and every other NijiEN

>> No.27454464
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Comparatively, Gura's Birthday 3D.
>55 minutes
>63036 CCV Peak, 46455 CCV Average
>675000 Views after 24 hours, according to Playboard

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes
>55 minutes/5 minutes = 11 turnovers
>11 * 46455 = 511005 Views

This value already looks a little weird, it's lower than the number of views after 24 hours, whereas the previous example had vastly more than the actual number of views in less time.

Let's skip to calculating the Churn Time by reversing the equation.
>675000 Views/46455 CCV Average = 14.5~ turnovers
55 minutes/14.5 turnovers = 4~ Minute Churn Time


>> No.27454468

Damn its already this close
>Brace your sellf, shitposter's coming

>> No.27454469

God I hope this is her doing it on purpose and not the company milking her dead body for what its worth. Hoshimeguri isn't exactly reputable and I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that. When she graduated she sounded pretty pissed at management so I'm kind of confused if she decided to come back.

>> No.27454483

Okay, I'll be going back home to work from there so I could shitpost on the side

>> No.27454486


>> No.27454495

>but she averaged 35-40k.
Can you provide some sort of evidence? She would have made into the tally every day if you are not lying, as the anon that make the tallies was already adding her.

>> No.27454502

>thats why i think that the whole jp schtick is targeting the en crowd more than the jp crowd
Well no shit, kson already filtered her JP audience twice and Mike is stucked with army of EOPs.

>> No.27454515

EN name automatically assumes that they have the EN crowd

>> No.27454532

The last video I think

>> No.27454540

Anon, casual viewers don't pay attention to
>When they stream
>Where the SCs are coming from
At all. The ones /here/ know, oh they know, we literally live rent free in that thread's mind. You can easily get people to think themselves to the proper conclusion though, just ask these questions
>When do they stream?
>Here's a hololyzer list of SCs. Where do their SCs come from/what language are they in?
While only Vox ends up with a big CN heavy audience, the times/languages in general should get people thinking.

>> No.27454543
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It's happening

>> No.27454558

Can Botan get more than 33k on Holocure and steal gold?

>> No.27454562

She was streaming without an avatar, her literal last fucking stream was the one where she used an avatar, she did make 1 more stream after that. Obviously she's not gonna fucking count for the tally, hell one of those streams was even a live chocolate making stream IRL.

>> No.27454563

I will now subscribe to kobo

>> No.27454564

You're gonna watch the weekly threesome stream with Kson, Ironlung and Cannur and you're going to like it

>> No.27454566

Lying is bad for health

>> No.27454567

I won't be touching that even with a 10ft pole, I'd instantly "not recommend channel" to even any clippers who does them.
I however will check out if Kson does an Onlyfans.

>> No.27454576

Can she? Yes
Will she? Well, I'm not willing to bet my balls on it

>> No.27454578

Who got 33k?

>> No.27454579

>3. Box events. Holofes, micrasportfes, relays (fuck CCVID), Any esport tournament for VSPO
Getting those ironicfags over in VShojo to passionately compete in events is going to be a herculean task. Theyre the type to shit on 'tryharding' even though that's what build those events in the first place. Hell, its even hard to get HoloEN to take yearly Sports festival seriously.

>> No.27454593
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this guy

>> No.27454594

Why that number? Probably not tho, I'm thinking 28k max.

>> No.27454605
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TOP FUCKING KEK, gotta give it to these mad lads, when he posted
>I'll cosplay as a giant Yagoo head
I thought he was bullshitting

Inexpensive, poor quality but funny as fuck and must have been the center of the attentions with the Holo crowd

>> No.27454616

i dont think she will

>> No.27454625

because its the current gold >>27454593

>> No.27454631

Gura is culled by at least 100%? Say it ain't so

>> No.27454639

>her literal last fucking stream was the one where she used an avatar,
That's why people called it her "debut", this being /vt/ and all.
Canaan streams aren't discussed in the context of vtubers and neither are her facecam streams for obvious reasons

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>> No.27454653

Anon, I don't think you understand just how much of an ambush the entire thing was. Such that the CCV was still rapidly climbing throughout the entire thing as people got notified what Gura had pulled.
Go try and find something a little less whack (considering the damned thing racked up a lot of viewers after-the-fact once people realized what her birthday was).

>> No.27454672

i heard she already reincarnated at 774. (she's the tomboy at Hiyocro afaik) what's happening?

>> No.27454678

If they're not penetrating each other then I won't BUT if they do then maybe I will.

>> No.27454683

To Vshojo shills how is Japan's reaction to Kson and new vshojo member. I'm mostly seeing hype from EN audience but haven't seen any significant excitement from JP audience

>> No.27454691

Everyone pulls out their cellcams and turn to look at the novelty giant YAGOO head, it's a thing of beauty.

>> No.27454694

If vrabi doesn't count it then it's not going on the tally.

>> No.27454699

that means that the one in 774 is not her

>> No.27454708

She has no overlap scheduled yet so its possible.

>> No.27454724

Oh no no no nijibros where are our giant riku head cosplays in AX

>> No.27454728

they dont care about the jp audience

>> No.27454735

>90% asians
Wtf I though this was in burgerland what the hell

>> No.27454736

This is basically showing that Gura's entire audience must be cycling every 4 minutes

>> No.27454749

How long until a bunch of madlads cosplay holocure IRL?

>> No.27454751

Opening VShojoJP and hiring a monolingual japanese streamer (presumably) to target the EN market.
That's some out of the box thinking

>> No.27454754


>> No.27454755
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I don't know about Kson but the Nazuna girl seems to have their attention (or at least some curiosity).

>> No.27454758


>> No.27454770

Will VShojo/jp be showing up to Comiket?

>> No.27454785

why is nobody talking about peanuts-kun having 21k

>> No.27454787

so its 100% confirmed that its rushia then since she called her paypig and told him

>> No.27454790

Orca is just retarded, right? Or is he one of the paypigs Rushia was DMing and has an in?

>> No.27454797

all tsukasa previous streams already got on the tally tho, liveranking/ikioi/vstats have them

>> No.27454798
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Cali has a HUGE asian population and, for obvious reasons, they'll be over represented among the weeb crowd

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>> No.27454829

he was one of the paypigs thats in with rushia

>> No.27454834

Because its not 33k.

>> No.27454836

Not really, most of the JP fans resent Rushia for the drama but she has plenty of saviorfags from EN side.

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kaela is a SC magnet holy moly

>> No.27454857

hard work pays off

>> No.27454863
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WAIT, Nene what now? Ark? 14k?

Is a new Ark arc about to start?

>> No.27454864

He was(probably still is) her biggest paypig. I'd be shocked if she didn't tell him about moves like this in advance.

>> No.27454881

She was rumored to be one of holoX btw.

>> No.27454885

Peanuts is like Kevin Hart. Yeah I enjoy it when he shows up to shit but I'd never actually watch content that revolves around him.

>> No.27454892

I hope not. Never really enjoyed watching dinosaur autism.

>> No.27454906


>> No.27454907

not like there's much else to watch

>> No.27454909

That part I understand but: will said saviourfags actually watch her? She failed to build an EOP audience past the "haha, rushia pettan" even on her Hololive days

She was up there in the "huge name recognition, low actual engagement with the EOP crowd" like Matsuri

>> No.27454918

she is making a cult after all

>> No.27454919

there are only 3 streams going on right now, and the other two is baseball and a towa talk stream. Not exactly alot of competition

>> No.27454934
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Even higher than Kobo's unarchived karaoke

>> No.27454948

so Kaela's going for the CLE (cult leader experience)?

>> No.27454951

>will said saviourfags actually watch her?
That's the interesting part, guess we will see in a few weeks.

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>> No.27454972

That's a retarded take given how many of those views she picked up AFTER the fact, something which wildly distorts the calculation.

>> No.27454978

I don't get how EOPs still want to save this menhera. Honestly, breaking NDA should never be tolerated.

>> No.27454979

anon she got 15k regularly during her slot and a good percentage of them are eops, also see Delta

>> No.27454981

king... please just do ranked apex...

>> No.27454987

yeah at the rate she's going she might have the same level of hardcore fans as watames
relative to IN size of course

>> No.27455004

Okay, it's 100% her. Orca's movements are basically a giant flag that indicates "YES THIS GIRL IS M-GATO".

>> No.27455015

>barely 11k over 30 min
M-maybe KING isn't so much of a KING anymore, ahah...
>Is also playing Yasou on that garbage game
Yeah actually he doesn't deserve my respect anymore, fuck him.

>> No.27455019
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Suisei mogged.

>> No.27455022

>will said saviourfags actually watch her?
I think they will

>> No.27455035

Wait a minute so Vshojo has Lore videos now? Vei was talking how she doesn't like lores and called Holo girls fake using that as a reason. Now they are literally copying Hololive and it's format for fan interaction. Are they hoping that their fanbase too will makes contents based on their Lore just like how Holofans does for thei oshis.

>> No.27455042

Omfg, thats a lot of zero lmao
But we can see that what nijinigg called "Id is fucking poor. Riku genius leaving the market" is just a pure fucking cope

>> No.27455050

>I don't get how EOPs still want to save this menhera
don't most EOPs think she was fired for talking to a boy and ignore the whole "breaking NDA" thing?

>> No.27455053

Nobody cares about hear "breaking NDAs" even among the EOP. What peeved people was the "dead man switch"
>I want them to suffer
she tried to send Korekore

>> No.27455067

I really fucking wish Veibae would just stream with her real face and become successful so she can stop being a vtuber.

>> No.27455069

these people have never held a job, anon. they don't understand what breaking a contract means

>> No.27455075

and Not Rushia would end up streaming the most out of this 3

>> No.27455076

Of course it's cope.
Every reason they gave for leaving the market is a goddamn cope, even non-indos can see it. They just fucked up in their expansion. Just like they did for KR and IN and TW.

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>> No.27455098

ssh anon you`ll wake noor up with that comment, careful

>> No.27455102

everyone is copying holo for the piece of that pie anon

>> No.27455115

That's why I respect VSPO. They carved their own path.

>> No.27455139

Is Vei an actual retard? She strikes me as one.

>> No.27455138

nobody gives a shit about her breaking NDA, not even the people here, and doubly so because all that shit is so vague that you really need rrats to make anything out of it. The thing that ticks people off is her being retarded and going to Korekore

>> No.27455142

Maybe try with the archived karaoke and drink making offcollab on Moris channel? That one was known about multiple hours ahead of time so no guerilla element

>> No.27455150

>Are they hoping that their fanbase too will makes contents
lel good luck

>> No.27455151

>literally Towa's harem
>they carved their own path

>> No.27455155

Apparently nips give a shit anon

>> No.27455158

>it's literally just phony but with a shamisen and a shakuhachi flute

>> No.27455161

Breaking NDAs are a good reason to fire someone, but it's fairly irrelevant to a fan unless the actual specifics were malicious in some way.

It's understandable for Cover cut her loose, they're the ones who have to front up to various partners and sponsors, but also understandable for her fans to follow since they don't have that concern.

>> No.27455170

I've been doing that for like two years now

>> No.27455171

To be fair, IN expansion is indeed retarded and I still don't understand what they were thinking here.

>> No.27455175

Okay, then let's try Ina's most recent stream.
>2 hours, 47 minutes, 6 seconds
>10169 Peak CCV, 9386 Average CCV
>120000~ views after 10 hours, so processing is likely not complete

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes
>165 minutes / 5 minutes = 33 Turnovers
> 33 * 10k CCV = 330k views

That's obviously wrong. Calculating Churn Time
>120k views / 10k CCV = 12 Turnovers
>165 minutes/12 turnovers = 13 minutes Churn Time

This is feasible, although the number of views is still probably lower than its actual value. Still, viewer retention is on the low side compared to the marishion collab.

>> No.27455178

Anon, EOP stil believe that she was fired because she has boyfriend. Which is funny because she doesn't have one.

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>> No.27455183

>nobody gives a shit about her breaking NDA
for eops i think most of her nip casuals left because of that

>> No.27455184

Tsukasa gold today? He is an indie right?

>> No.27455187

yes, extremely so

>> No.27455189

When was the last time Veibae even streamed?

>> No.27455190

She sounds like one but she's just your average western zoomer woman.

>> No.27455191

Most all vtuber today copying hololive formula anon.

>> No.27455215

>He is an indie right?
Right. He's flirting with this gold for long with his Mahjong series, getting close to it at every attempt

>> No.27455216

no thats just the average western woman...
actually yes

>> No.27455219

that's when you know you've made it

>> No.27455223

>Orca will never be free

>> No.27455229

What is he doing?

>> No.27455231

Ohh I'll have some fun digging her past takes and post them to her face, can't tolerate two-faced whores like her.

>> No.27455232

It's him or Botan honestly. Nothing else good on schedule today
>He is an indie right?

>> No.27455235

Fuck yes

>> No.27455247

Are we really gonna have another ARK arc?

>> No.27455257

yeah I think he has it in the bag, botan aint gonna do 30k+

>> No.27455259

They give a shit the same way people here give a shit, because it gives them an excuse to attack her without coming off as petty. Outside of corporations and business partners, nobody really cares that she broke contract

>> No.27455264

Thinking 1.4bn people working in call centres and software mills.

>> No.27455274

Hosting a Mahjong tournament

>> No.27455275

>Nothing else good on schedule today
not so fast https://youtu.be/xX9_BeIs358

>> No.27455286


>> No.27455292

If Botan wins Gold I'm quitting/#/. There's just no point in coming here if Hololive is just gonna win every day.

>> No.27455303

Stillworth more than the same color supas from NTD, HKD or even

>> No.27455304
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WUT, did AX boost Sykkuno this much?

>> No.27455309

God fucking damnit it was indiemans fucking turn for gold

>> No.27455311

incoming tactital nuke

>> No.27455312

i hope not, i really don't want to go back to 4 hours of dino taming and hunting for 3 weeks only to fail a raid at the end
also, sunbreak's out, so that might take out the wind out of ark's sails

>> No.27455322

You don't know anyone's viewer retention an no amount of numbers alchemy will change that. Hell you dont even know if YT resets viewer retention in the analytics page for alt tabs or temporarily closing and opening the stream.

>> No.27455329

'VOD cope' is also often used by Nijifags because it's convenient for them (for the record, it's cope only when you're using it to justify CCV in either direction), but HoloEN VODs are fucking massive as well, because people (like me for example) are asleep a lot of the time when they stream, so a lot of people watch the VODs once they wake up.

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>> No.27455338

Why am I hearing Button gold? Where's Salami?

>> No.27455339

He's always been a 20k streamer...

>> No.27455345

Nah, that's the thing, the entertainment industry in India is MASSIVE, maybe they wanted a share of that curry scented market
>but failed miserably because who the fuck would go for weeb shit when their local entertainment industry is already massive and in their language

>> No.27455351

>Mikocraft up against Botan
No gold there

>> No.27455369

>Where's Salami?

>> No.27455375

please leave anyway.

>> No.27455381

True, but lately he was languishing below that threshold

>> No.27455388

What about Ludwig's Mogul Money, that can be a boost for Sykkuno

>> No.27455390

Sykunno is a 20k ish streamer, so no

>> No.27455394

It's just the usual suspects of Nene, Polka, Flare and Aki so too early to tell.

>> No.27455407

didn't that series have real human (non-vtuber) show up
is that even counted?

>> No.27455408

He is so based bro. Will peanuts ever make a song with mori?

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>> No.27455429

Oh god and with midterm elections coming up thats gonna be a complete fucking mess isnt it?

>> No.27455440

18k to 24k isn't really that much of a boost

>> No.27455445

It's the presenters and it count as much as Okayu stream with Hikakin and the muscle dude

>> No.27455446

Polka and Flare will most likely ask Pekora to play as well... The only good thing out of this would be another incline for Akirose in case she meddles once again with Pekora but that's it..

>> No.27455447

Nene has the worst sub growth but decent CCV. I guess a loyal fanbase is more important than tourists.

>> No.27455458

kobo already pass vox?

>> No.27455464

Kson doesn't care about that shit she's a certified Murican southerner

>> No.27455465
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Mantra Hujan 4M get.

>> No.27455479

tied right now, should pass him within the hour

>> No.27455484

This is closer to where his normal numbers should be, really. His recent Mogul Money appearance probably helped too, given the size of the event.

>> No.27455489

The tides are changing though.

>> No.27455503

the presenters are real people yeah but there is pretty much only chuubas for the tournament roster

>> No.27455512

Our next OP needs to be that Kobo killing Vox pic

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>> No.27455519

only for her Live2D reveal.
She hasn't streamed publicly since.

>> No.27455528

sykkkuno has been a 15-20k streamer

>> No.27455537

Leave OP alone, just make a bait thread in the catalog, it doubles as sucking in the usual retards

>> No.27455540

Okayu holocure coming

>> No.27455546

chumbud prime...

>> No.27455550

I would if the nijimeido isn't banning anyone trying to make one

>> No.27455553

> all those amp links
jesus christ, unplug yourself NPC-kun...

>> No.27455559

Pretty weak for their cover desu

>> No.27455565
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wtf is happening? Error?

>> No.27455568

If i remember during her open VC Mori said average viewer retention was 5 minutes but that stream specifically was closer to 15 minutes

>> No.27455575

>Kson doesn't care about that shit
Anon, in the present western orthodoxy you cannot just "not care" specially when your coworkers are using your shared platform to show how much they care.
If they're talking about it they'll get you to talk about it OR imply you are from "the wrong side" if you refuse

>> No.27455580

It's people like you that are the problem. You think people at Google work for fucking free, retard?

>> No.27455582

Since hes been using the title format his ccv improved, funnily enough

>> No.27455589

At this rate, for every 100k new subscribers, she will get 1 million views on her ori song

>> No.27455592


>> No.27455598


>> No.27455599

manga has always mogged comic books on the printing front
but comics have mogged them at every other front even before disney marvel

>> No.27455600


>> No.27455604
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Error on your part maybe

>> No.27455606

I meant open VC VS

>> No.27455607

Anon this is the numbers thread.
Obviously not all of the people here are savants but we do have a better idea of chuuba audiences than the casual crowd over at reddit.
They see EN --> They think EN audience.
Most of them don't even watch Luxiem, they're just fans of the fandom, or contrarians who cheer them on hoping for the downfall of Hololive.

>> No.27455615

Is he still following Gura's activity?

>> No.27455616
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This really is our day

>> No.27455620

You guys are retards and think this site can see what Youtube is not showing (increments of less than 1k).
It extrapolates based on their magic meat algo and when they fail to meet the mark they just push the number back

>> No.27455623

everything below 3 sig figs is the site taking an educated guess based on previous growth rates, so until you see Kobo tick over to 913k it's all just guesses

>> No.27455635
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KEK, look at the jump

>> No.27455641

Guess whatever meeting most of the holos were busy with ended and they're putting frames up.

>> No.27455643

Damn! The fujo really pump up their bots huh

>> No.27455648


>> No.27455651

> back to 600
kek the Fujos are scared

>> No.27455662
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Shigure Ui getting good engagement with this. Smart and not for rape, that's for sure

>> No.27455670

Kobo getting 6 maybe 8 subs a second. This other nigga got 600 subs in 1 minute what the fuck

>> No.27455683

We all are hoping.

>> No.27455686


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>> No.27455694

they always have a general meeting on the first monday of each month, this isn't really news

>> No.27455701

bot activated

>> No.27455709

According to Nijizhangs, Kobo is the one who uses bots.

>> No.27455725

>indochads shitposting
>femcel discords sweating buckets having to create accounts
Popcorn please

>> No.27455727

Susan playing games. Confirm a nijicuck is over at susan hq. Another nadeem needs to happen.

>> No.27455785

>he actually thinks that there is someone in google who can decipher the giant coding mess that is yt who cant even fix the site due to that mess

>> No.27455801


>> No.27455804

Give it up anon. It's dead until it's actually unveiled. Don't hope, just accept that Susan hates anime girls in bikinis.

>> No.27455814

looks 3DPD?

>> No.27455828

Azki's Concert
>~1 hour
>~74500 Peak CCV, ~67500 Average CCV
>~360k Views after 20 hours

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes, Pessimistic Lower Bound
>60 minutes / 5 minutes = 12 turnovers
> 12 * 67500 = 810000 views
This is obviously inaccurate.

Assuming a Total Churn Time of 30 minutes, Optimistic Upper Bound
>60 minutes / 30 minutes = 2 turnovers
>2 *67500 = 135000 views

Calculating Churn Time
> 360k views / 67.5k = ~5 turnovers
> 60 minutes / 5 = 12 minutes Churn Time

Other examples will be needed to determine the baseline for concert viewer churn estimates.

>> No.27455839

Those are guest

>> No.27455871

https://youtu.be/3sb3dXYYXEg at 15:26
Why would they let their talents have outfits like that but not summer outfits? Hmmmm.

>> No.27455876

title says one-man live so I was wondering

>> No.27455881
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Trending + more views

>> No.27455909
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It's likely an opening act or guests

They always say "sololive" to differentiate from "group live" even when they have guests.

>> No.27455924

Nips have strange ESLingo purisu andastando

>> No.27455948
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And he's finally there.

>> No.27455955

"This channel is Japanese only!"

>> No.27455974

Wow fujos creating fake acc just so kobo don't pass him hahaha

>> No.27455978

Please understand, I'm well aware of all the hints and vagueposting and everything that TALENTS THEMSELVES have done hinting at it coming, but until they officially unveil it I refuse to be hopeful.

>> No.27455980

Has KMNZ made their appereance?

>> No.27456025
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What an unusual day, which may end up with Indie gold and Indie Silver

>> No.27456040

helno sir, pls show bob ad vagene

>> No.27456046


>> No.27456059

She's basically 90% of western women so...

>> No.27456081

Short answer?
Long answer?

>> No.27456083

Trending #3 in Japan? Is that all what it needs to be trending in Japan? Wow, Japan is actually a small market

>> No.27456112

Don't make duplicate threads, check if there's already one before making it.

>> No.27456113

lol this is the first thing that has made me believe it is mikey

>> No.27456124

Nah, its just YT JP being biased towards Niji. I saw even weaker Vods from them getting on trending

>> No.27456125
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>clock is ticking for gokisei

>> No.27456141

Currently in the top 10 JP trending, 5 of them are Nijisanji.

>> No.27456155

gen5 schizo was right...

>> No.27456162

Anon, Kobo is the next 1M vtuber and everyone on Hololive (be it in the fandom or the girls) will rejoice.
People in this board will also make fun of Vox for being beaten by an indog, but that's something else

>> No.27456188

She's gonna beat Polka and Sora to 1M, I'd like to see the reactions of nips who've never heard of Kobo.

>> No.27456198

Ok, Miko scheduling late and fucking Botan over. She is however a better fighter for the gold, but she can't just pull 35k or whatever out when she plays MC.

>> No.27456214
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kek, nobody ticked or tocked Mito. Goes to show nobody really cares about NijiJP in this board even to make fun of them

>> No.27456236

maybe a suprise collab with chama

>> No.27456245

No one has used Mito to shit on holos as far as i can remember.

>> No.27456247

>kek, nobody ticked or tocked Mito
Mito gets a pass

>> No.27456251

The stream that gets higher numbers from hololive doesn't hit trending. The algo is straight up biased in Nijis favor

>> No.27456258

That's good thing btw. Leave the old guards alone.

>> No.27456268

probably because no one uses mito to shit on other chuubas

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>be notrushia
>open random vshojo discord channel
>understand jackshit
>it shows in her stream
>the EN whores are actually talking shit not just holos but nijien too

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>> No.27456280

leave the menhera alone, she's probably ego searching on this board right now.

>> No.27456294

thats because theres a nap on mito

>> No.27456296

nigga, niji has more vtubers than there are grains of sand. who would know any or all of them?

>> No.27456300

Sure but imagine being gen 5, the formerly most hyped Japanese gen before holoX, and letting not one but two holoIDs beat you to 1M lmao even after streaming for 2 years

>> No.27456311

Stop deflecting fujosis, Kobo's enemy is Vox.

>> No.27456317

mito has her own issues to deal with right now. leave her alone.

>> No.27456323

>Salome gets 1.4M
>Mito's subs untouched
Yeah, Salome smells like bullshit

>> No.27456327


>> No.27456333

Mito has NAP which still carries over to this board

>> No.27456349

Everyone respect the OGs

>> No.27456348

Polka and Nene aren't don't even qualify to be Kobo's enemies, they're more like really little speedbumps, true enough.

>> No.27456368

>the EN whores are actually talking shit not just holos but nijien too
but they already do that outside of their discord too how would that change anything?

>> No.27456387

All the ID superchats isnt even a fifth of the total value for that stream?
It wasnt the ID superchatters that made that her most SCed stream ever it was the all USD akasupas she got during the meme "super chatto time" during the game

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>> No.27456461

> Vox deflection post

>> No.27456471

Looks like an indie Gold. I think its hard to beat 38k.

>> No.27456484

eh, that whole thing already happened with Gura (and eventually all of Myth) so people don't mind it as much.

>> No.27456493
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Mito is for sexual only

>> No.27456502

>Y: We're going to need a nuclear option.
>R: Why me?
>Y: You have the best yabbais, the biggest melt downs, uncontrolled rage.
>R: ...
>Y: so we're going to need you to leak some stuff. Maybe your discord? And handle the situation extremely badly. Yes that should do it.
>R: o-ok... But I will be rewarded.
>Y: You will live on in the hearts of your fans. Forever.
>Y: So this is what's going to happen, after we fire you it will take a few months, but you will be approached. There's only 2 options really, either one will do nicely...

She's been a plant all this time.

>> No.27456510
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6k out of the 7k subs got this week came after her live.
The Holobox is EVIL!

>> No.27456524

didnt that already happen with gura?

>> No.27456551
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She's based, always worrying about how her kouhai are doing.

>> No.27456563

that anon is a retard who cant do math and economy. he's too stupid to understands that IDR SC is more expensive than NT and HKD, and more or less the same as Yen, Won, and MYR.

>> No.27456688
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Wait, does that mean everybody in INdonesia is a millionaire?

>> No.27456745
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I'd want to edit kobo in this, solo leveling anime getting announced on the same day as kobo mogging vox. Started from nothing, to becoming the best.

>> No.27456766

nah. the nijjers wouldn't hesitate to shit on sora or roboco, so mito is fair game too.

>> No.27456790

There is not a lot to shitpost about her tho, specially considering how absent she is in the past few months

>> No.27456802

mito is good for sex

>> No.27456881

There might be another CR Cup brewing. Tweet from the owner of Crazy Racoon.

>> No.27456882

Jesas 2 10k+ for gen 5 playing ark.

>> No.27456895

>the move for vshojo to have a JP branch is a CIA plot to destroy vtuber culture to stop JP influence.

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>> No.27456913

10k isn't surprising for holomems at this point.

>> No.27456920

They do it four times a year, don't day?

>> No.27456925

open field

>> No.27456932
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Huh, dtto already debut her Live2D yesterday.
Officially a Vtuber again and the eyes especially look great.

1.6k currently on YT
Twitch is her main stream place, though she had dropped to ~500 average
3k for the debut

>> No.27456933

Retard anon. Your reading comprehension rep please
That anon talk about how nijinigg shitting on holo telling id is fucking poor when in truth they throw sc
Jst that

>> No.27456963

>Bora and Qu back
Yeah, i'd want to do something now too.
Before Apex gets too stale.

>> No.27457009

Dont they do that like multiple times a year?

>> No.27457015
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Haachama on Minecraft at the 10PM slot, might just be what will give Miko the boost to contest gold today

>> No.27457024

Waiting for her collab with Laplus

>> No.27457070

Not single pov doesn't help.
They need to beat 38307, unless they have something kino planned I don't see it happening.

>> No.27457085
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King sandwiched between two Gen5
>he's enjoying it

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>> No.27457130

Lap collab IKZ

>> No.27457158

This going to be shitty isnt it?

>> No.27457187

What the fuck? Is Nanana coming back?

>> No.27457190

Kiara perpetuates the Blue Woman theory

>> No.27457194

She was already brought up yesterday as she also signed up with Scarz as a content creator

>> No.27457198

I'm out of the loop, what's with her and Lap+?

>> No.27457211

dtto & la+ apex collab plz, la+ need to be train so hard right now.

or even better dtto&la+&Lui and make it full ex-Re:ACT collab

>> No.27457239

they are friends
lap RM did a lot of collabs with her

>> No.27457243

I want APEX to disappear

>> No.27457245

I discovered her with the King cover which used to be an ad before streams.

>> No.27457248

and it's funny too because the reason she provided about how boys get given light blue toys to play with is completely different from the reasons we come up with, so she definitely came to this conclusion on her own

>> No.27457251
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Yo wtf?

10 months later too.

It's not like the company is doing any better, only Mama found a 250~ viewer groove in Mahjong.

>> No.27457286

Haachama is a debuff, the last few collab didn't get good numbers
besides Miko isn't doing interesting thing either, just fuck around the resource server for horns
you have better chance for Botan getting 40k she did get insane number on VS before

>> No.27457287

Check the song duets on her YT channel for pink.

>> No.27457292

Thanks anon, gotcha.

>> No.27457311

they both from Re:ACT , including Lui-nee (not as vtuber)

>> No.27457324

Former company mates

>> No.27457345

>Trending aims to balance all of these considerations. To achieve this, Trending considers many signals, including (but not limited to):
>View count
>How quickly the video is generating views (i.e. “temperature”)
>Where views are coming from, including outside of YouTube
>The age of the video
>How the video performs compared to other recent uploads from the same channel
That last part seems important

>> No.27457352

yup, saw her on the news, but no one said she even premiered the vtuber model.

Then again, no one watches Twitch.
If the Vshojo stuff wasn't on Twitter and clipped on YT, no one would have known.

>> No.27457358

They used to work for ReAct, both are very close to each other. BFF irl as well
They still stream together on their roommate account sometimes

>> No.27457383

Nene mocking king lol

>> No.27457394

A lot of zeros in IDR doesn't mean shit if the depreciation happened two decades ago and the economy has already adapting and stabilize.

You might want to read this recent article:
Indonesian economy is actually one of the best performing and most resilient economy in the last two years, beating most of the developed countries economy's performance.

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Meh, call me when they get decent VOD views per stream.

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>per stream.

>> No.27457427

>Sorry Hololive, you get too many videos that do well anyways. We need to boost these Niji-nobodies who get shit views normally

>> No.27457438

It's like this everywhere, YT puts whatever shit it wants on Trending.

>> No.27457442

>Kazami Naname's second original song, "Blue Letter". July 7, your birthday and last year you sang 77.7 songs.
>This video marks the end of Kazekami Nananaru's CH contribution.
>As I described in "Our Best Live" video. Please continue to remember Kazekami Nananaru. President of Hoshimeguri Academy.
I used deepL to translate the description, but it looks like she's gone for real now

>> No.27457483

>Japanese economy shrunk by 1% last year and continues to decline
>Indonesian economy grew by 4% last year and is projected to accelerate
Only last samurais are still pretending that Japan is a relevant country when its aging demographic is leading it to financial and cultural doom in as little as 10 years. Japanese vtubing is as dead in the water as their economy.

>> No.27457491

I genuinely believe Holo's high EOP viewership keeps it from trending in Japan as well as Nijisanji does. That's my only explanation.

>> No.27457494

That's completely true,
company pages that don't post for months and suddenly get 200k views in 10 hours are most likely to get to trending i see.

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>> No.27457508

Yeah, and that's a good thing otherwise you end up like Vine did where you had a dozen people who get 90% of the views, and thousands of single view shitters who just give up because they aren't getting traction.

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Yes but 15K.... kek

>> No.27457542
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Blue also has to do with Hololive's popularity. Their brand and logo is centered around a blue play button, simple, friendly and an overall nice design that hadn't been copyrighted yet. Meanwhile, VShojo and Anycolor's logo is really complicated. Between these logos, which one would you remember best or is recognizable?

>> No.27457556

Is that Rin on only 1k, so sad

>> No.27457577

Well I'll be there for her last song then, hopefully she has decent future ahead of her.

>> No.27457579


Delete Delete Delete Delete Delete Delete

> King lost to gen 5, shit TT

>> No.27457584

Can't believe she used to be the top vtuber.

>> No.27457588

Thats a good thing though

>> No.27457595

Why do they call it Vshojo when they don't act like an actual shojo?

>> No.27457596

bruh rin is always 1-2k sub streamer.

>> No.27457598

Pacman eating a rainbow honestly.

But i could draw the Holo logo easier.

>> No.27457616

Those are good numbers for Niji. Mahjong?

>> No.27457619

"Because blue is favored by so many people, it is often viewed as a non-threatening color that can seem conservative and traditional."

Hololive was the trad wives all along.