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Reminder that TALENT FREEDOM is a myth and is just some stupid brand term to defend their talent constantly yabbing and causing drama which is why they get a bad reputation and why people are pissed about the kson announcement.

Any vtuber agency / corpo needs to have effective management. They don't need to be restrictive as fuck, but at least should be tard wrangling talent to avoid more yabs and lowering their reputation further. vshojo offer none of this.

>> No.27431087

I hear what you're saying, I got a bad reputation
And now you got me praying for a better situation

>> No.27431088

>>27431018
>Any vtuber agency / corpo needs to have effective management.
So not Cover, with two top earners dipping out and their replacements on the leaderboard clearly burnt out with the exception of Mori, whom you idolpigs hate bitterly for not toeing your schizo line.

>> No.27431129

>>27431088
>dipping out
So many newfags trying to spin the narrative lately. It's kicked out.

>> No.27431162

>>27431018
Something tells me the random 80 IQ anon on /vt/ couldn't spot "effective management" if it clubbed him in the face

>> No.27431252

>>27431088
I will now remind you that Cover has the best talent retention rate of all major vtuber companies, and also that superchats aren't even in the top 3 revenue sources for hololive members

>> No.27431358

counter-point: they are very successful and make a ton of money doing things their way no matter how much /vt/ loves to whine about them

>> No.27431375
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>>27431088
People with sense are absolutely not praising Cover's management. Their track record has been abysmal, but not as bad as vshojo:

COVER had:
>Mel incident
>Atrocious handling of the Taiwan shit
>Copyright games holocaust (why so many streams got nuked)
>So much more

vshojo had:
>questionable talent hiring like nyanners, veibae, etc
>sham auditions and the nux shit
>lack of tard wrangling veibae causing more yabs (shitting on hololive, shylily shit, etc)
>no management when they actually need management
>allowing talent to get political when they shouldn't be doing so

The best agency for effective management would be PhaseConnect. Yes it's only 2views but management there isn't heavy handed but makes sure it's not a yab factory to harbour dramatubers. And no graduations either.

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>>27431018
t.

>> No.27431496

>>27431375
>>Copyright games holocaust
This is also going to happen to vshojo with them hiring people in Japan, and they are probably catastrophically unprepared for permissions autism given their origins on Twitch

>> No.27431529

>>27431018
>why people are pissed about the kson announcement
the Chinese aren't people

>> No.27431579

>>27431252
Compared to nijisanji, yes they had a good record of barely letting anyone go. Then it all went downhill after Kaoru, Coco, Aloe etc.

The point is regardless if you think COVER is bad, they at least have functional management. Even when it's shit like omegatranny.

vshojo have nothing when it comes to management talent. kson's manager is going with her however, JP may at least be different in that regard, but the fact is she's going to associate herself with the most controversial vtuber agency around, getting more antis and more collabs blocked too.

kson is going to find she's made a huge mistake and she should have stayed indie. Instead she's effectively killed off holo/niji collabs for the rest.

>> No.27431619

>>27431018
您的社会信用评分已增加五分。

>> No.27431708

>>27431252
vshojo has a retention rate of 100%

>> No.27431728
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>>27431529
The chink trope is no longer a valid rebuttal, apologist.
I'm afraid you'll have to try harder than that.

>> No.27431775

>>27431708
But how many people they have? Like 7?

>> No.27431777

>>27431728
ok zhang, whatever you say

>> No.27431782

>>27431728
Ok commie.

>> No.27431809

>>27431579
>Then it all went downhill after Kaoru, Coco, Aloe etc.
Literally only one person ever left voluntarily from the hololive side, and even that has a massive chinese-spam-themed asterisk attached to it
Stars has had more people move on but they've remained small enough that it was never more than a side gig for them to begin with
>>27431708
They've also never hired an actual new talent and don't have any corporate activities. They're literally a dime-a-dozen management services company with a logo

>> No.27431810

>>27431708
What's the boyfriend rate at

>> No.27431846

>>27431018
>constantly yabbing
By /vt/ standards maybe. People also seem to think hololive and Nijisanji constantly have yabs here even though 90% of them are complete nothingburgers outside of here, evidenced by the fact that every supposed yab is always filled with retards breaking containment and failing at convincing anyone they're not just some /vt/ shitposter poisoning the well.

>> No.27431872

>>27431810
Kek

>> No.27431910

>>27431579
>more collabs blocked
>effectively killed off holo/niji collabs
Vshojo collabs with both Hololive and Nijisanji, anon. Are you okay?

>> No.27431935

1. Vshojos are free to collab with womever they want, they don't have to ingore their friends in the interest of corporate wars or to keep a captive audience.
2. Vshojos can play whatever game they want, they don't have to restrict to the small catalogue of games that management negotiated to monetize, again money over freedom.
3. Vshojos can openly have a significant other, they don't need to hide him and lie to their audience, manipulating them and stringing them along
4. Vshojos can talk about their political opinions. They don't have to cowardly hide their values in order not to offend chuds.

>> No.27432023

>>27431810
Retention or possession?

>> No.27432047

>>27431910
Retard, that was before hiring the dumb menhera who is blacklisted by holo, and the anti chink whore who is blacklisted by niji

>> No.27432110

>>27431088
Yeah Cover has the guts to fire their top earner, while others are drooling for it

>> No.27432150
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>>27431910
the rrat is it's not gonna happen any further or will be really difficult
>holo side is because of keychan being the cutting board
>niji side is because they can't risk losing their chinese backing

Ironmouse did a few holo collabs pretty quickly and people think they were done quickly in case the announcement shut it down quickly.

The saving grace might be holo/niji finally working stuff out and let EN collab with each other....because they're not as bad as vshojo now.

>> No.27432231

>>27431935
>Vshojos can talk about their political opinions. They don't have to cowardly hide their values in order not to offend chuds.
Woke normies, tranies and e-thots trying to shove their political shit and woke virtual signal on everything they touch, thats the main reason why vshishow is hated

>> No.27432237

>>27431018
> effective management
> Cover

Are you out of your mind?

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>>27431708
One day zen will explode and we all know what will happen with mouse.

nyanners will fuck off when she finds the latest fad to grift and veibae will call it a day to rail sodapoppin 24/7.

>> No.27432320

>>27431018
They use "talent freedom" to glorify the fact there is no management. Just a bunch of people who can't and don't really want to wrangle these girls.

>> No.27432323
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>>27432237
At least their management exists.

You can't say the same about vshojo.

>> No.27432362

>>27431529
Why would the chinks be upset at kson joining Vshoujo? It just proves them right that she's a whore.

>> No.27432397

>>27432320
This anon gets it: it inherently means they don't actually have a brand identity
If each member can do whatever they want with no external direction, there's no guarantee that liking one means you won't hate all of the others, which negates the entire point of having a branded group

>> No.27432413

>>27432231
hated by chuds you mean. Well stay on your side of the fence then.

>> No.27432496

>>27432320
Wrangling is not managment though. It's just opression. You may as well say that blacks needed to ble "wrangled" to be productive.

Pop stars, rappers, rock bands have managers and they don't need to "wrangle" their opinions.

>> No.27432541

>>27431496
It's only a problem for companies based IN Japan and it may surprise you to know that Vshojo isn't.

>>27432413
Why won't these FOIDS just shut up and fuck me amirite fellas?

>> No.27432721

>>27432496
Wrangling is not oppression. It's a way to make sure the retards will not poke their eyes with scissors.

>> No.27432765

>>27432721
>my oshi is a retard
ogey

>> No.27432770

>>27431018
The freedom to TALK ABOUT NASTY MESTRUATION DUMPS.
Yeah, I love it.

>> No.27432852

>>27432765
maybe his oshi is Aqua

>> No.27432886

>>27432541
No, Japanese companies can still copyright strike people elsewhere. Atlus has done it before plenty of times
The fair use exemption in the US also doesn't cover streaming unedited gameplay, it's far more limited in scope than people believe

>> No.27433161

>>27432023
Honestly both are in question here, the former for the future drama, the latter for the percentage of cucking currently

>> No.27433197

>>27433161
What anituber do you think is gonna be railing kson by the end of the year?

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>>27431018
I mean, all you have to do is just play with their own rules. Do they want to talk about politics? Their call. But, anyone else can harass them due to their said talk. It doesn't matter you'll be called out as incel or chuds or anything.

Freedom cuts both ways, including Vei and incels who hate her. Any rebuttal to this condition can be answered by a simple maxim: freedom centered on you and you only.

>> No.27433355

>>27432231
You wanna know how I can tell all you faggots are hypocrites? If a vtuber started spouting /pol/-rhetoric or came out supporting right-wing politics, you same faggots that call vshojo or finana "woke whores shoving their politics in everyone's faces" would instantly turn around and call that vtuber based af

>> No.27433393

>>27432886
Sure, if it's just a "non-transformative" work, what that means leaves some room for interpretation. However, most fair uses have not been ruled in the media producer's favor, at least as far as video games are concerned. Probably, because they are directly interactive. And you could likely argue that every playthrough is substantially different just by merit of the person playing it.
Film, TV, music and anime haven't had those grounds tested all that much.

>> No.27433492

>>27432323
>pic
who is(was?) that girl?

>> No.27433534

i don't get it. It's a myth even though it already exists? Several vtuber companies and indies practice it and a non-vtubers live it but it's a myth?

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>>27433492
>Girl

>> No.27433766

>>27433664
the one on the top right is a dude?
damn traps i swear
anyway, still curious what happened

>> No.27433813

>>27433766
People jokes that he impregnated Sakura Miko causing her month+ break, I think there was some bullshit involving beyblade and he graduated the company shortly after.

>> No.27433888

>>27433393
It has been tested on the platforms, though. Atlus threw out a huge wave of copyright strikes for Persona 5 streams on Twitch and they were all upheld. Nintendo used to copyright strike people on YouTube all the time and it was always upheld. It doesn't need to get to a court because the streaming platforms already side with the copyright holders every time.

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reminder than holofags used to trash highly curated content with non-spontaneous non-streaming videos as "boring" but now they're trying to defend it because it damages their sinking ship of an idolshit company's image

>> No.27433967

>>27433355
Someone posted a clip of that /here/ vtuber publicly calling Artemis a troon and saying that she'd never collab with people like "him". She immediately went into my shitlist (not that I was particularly interested to begin with). Some people just plain don't want the cute anime people they're using as a form of escapism to sound like their twitter TLs.

>> No.27434036

>>27433888
Did actually go to trial, or just settled because they didn't want to test the waters and get a bad decision?

>> No.27434159

>>27433967
Works both ways. I don’t engage with the overwhelming majority of Twitch/EN chuubas because they have big mouths and tend to need to cram communist shit into their streams.

>> No.27434226

>>27433393
>However, most fair uses have not been ruled...
>And you could likely argue that...
As someone who has been in management at a business that unintentionally ran into a copyright shitstorm, what people who haven't do not seem to understand is this: You only get to "argue" and get things "ruled" if you end up in litigation first. Litigation is EXPENSIVE. Six-figures expensive at least. Plus you might not win. Plus, if you lose, you might have to pay the other side's legal fees in addition to your own. You easily end up millions of dollars in damages and expenses.

Agreeing to a settlement is less expensive. But even settlements are expensive compared to a simpler solution such as taking down content. The financially responsible thing to do take the least expensive option and learn from it. You only fight if you BOTH have loads of spare money AND need to a stake a claim as being "that company which will fight back" because it is critical to some part of your business (e.g. Newegg spending boatloads of money fighting a software patent troll to send a message).

Caveat: my experiences are in a US context. Things are certainly different in a JP context, but from everything I have seen, they are not any simpler. More importantly, when you are doing business in another country, even just having a contract with someone living in that country, you cannot just say "lol not in ur country I don't care" and ignore it. That is (a) horribly irresponsible as a business, (b) often doesn't work, and even if it does in a limited manner it (c) can foist the consequences onto your contractors/employees/whomever, which destroys your credibility and future prospects.

>> No.27434424

>>27434159
That's what I'm saying. If I wanted to use my spare time listening to that shit, I'd hop on Twitter and start doomscrolling. I mainly use(d) vtubers to get away from that, and I'm sure I'm not the only person like that.

>> No.27434524

>>27432765
Probably mori

>> No.27434559

>>27434226
Oh I believe that, I was just talking about the fair use/transformative bar and how it is different in Japan than the US in regards to how they treat license/copywrite holders for their content. I understand that Japan is a lot more strict in that regard, though the US has more wiggle room for "infringement". But with corpo EN chuubas it seems they are locked into licensing deals with game producers which limits the scope of what they can play (and when) based on the location they are operating out of, whereas that is less of an issue for the US based ones.

>> No.27434594

>>27433355
I don't want to listen to a vtuber sperg about how much they hate blacks or how the election was stolen either. The whole point is to get away from the idiots I hear every day from eithet side of the political fence telling me how I should think and vote otherwise I'm "problematic" or a "sheep"

If an anime girl who's job it is to entertain others and make us forget about this shit refuses to be neutral even for a FEW FUCKING HOURS then she's worthless as an entertainer.

TL;DR: A vtuber that can't leave politics alone whether they're left, right, up or down is a dogshit vtuber.

>> No.27434672

>>27431018
Talent freedom = Riding the cock carousel

>> No.27434691

>>27434594
There are vtubers that fit that mold. Nothing wrong with vtubers that do it. There's so many vtubers out there that complaining how some act instead of just finding ones you agree with is stupid.

>> No.27434800

>>27434559
Fair enough.

>> No.27434908

The only reason why Cover Corp is better is because a majority of their talents are Japanese. So if they do yab about something, a vast majority of us can’t fucking understand them. A win win.

>> No.27434942

>>27431088
>dipping out
Coco got chased out by chink antis, Rushia got fucking fired. Neither wanted to leave Hololive.

>> No.27435184 [DELETED] 

>>27431018
There is and has never been any drama in VShojo outside Nux intentionally starting shit and losing. Now tell me, what's it like hating human-centered work environments, Holobrony? There's a big reason why you're hated across /vt/ and the rest of the VTuber spheres.

>> No.27435235 [DELETED] 

>>27431088
spbp

>> No.27435316

>>27435184
Whores are not human

>> No.27435455

>>27435316
Based

>> No.27435705

>>27435184
hated across /vt/? The Holo board?
Have a (you)

>> No.27435750

>>27435705
>The Holo board?
What's it like living in 2021 still?

>> No.27435758 [DELETED] 

>>27431708
Holy rekt

>> No.27435760

Best part is when they collab with hololive, Its pure entertainment whe you guys seethe over something so little like a collab

>> No.27435810 [DELETED] 

>>27431810
Here's the idolfag mald
>>27431935
Couldn't have said any better myself.

>> No.27435815

>>27431708
Anon said major vtuber companies, not irrelevant grifters.

>> No.27435904

>>27431708
how will holokeks ever recover

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>> No.27435987 [DELETED] 

>>27432244
Nice falseflag, Holotard
>>27432320
Better none at all than literal imprisonment.

>> No.27436052 [DELETED] 

>>27433958
Based
>>27434908
That makes them worse actually. Japan is lower than third world in workplace efficacy.

>> No.27436061

>>27432496
Wrangling is literally the definition of management's role.

>> No.27436103 [DELETED] 

>>27435316
Chuds are less than human.
>>27435705
There's no Holoshit threads on the catalog outside your hugbox generals. VShojo are the top of the food chain now.

>> No.27436126

>>27435760
>>27435954
This will be infinitely more hilarious to me if Vshojo really did fuck up and hire *her*. You can kiss your creeping corruption good bye if that’s the case.

>>27435987
And yet, women still apply to Hololive in droves to this very day. Weird...

>> No.27436136

>>27432496
>You may as well say that blacks needed to ble "wrangled" to be productive.
Yes? That's correct, that's why
>Pop stars, rappers, rock bands
Have managers. That's exactly what they do.

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>> No.27436153 [DELETED] 

>>27435815
>irrelevant grifters
Codeword for strong women than put my Holocel ass on fire. You lost, chud.

>> No.27436194

>>27432765
They are female, yes.

>> No.27436205 [DELETED] 

>>27436126
Probably just for the hell of it. Not like they'll stick around for long once they get in. They can use it as a stepping stone to a much bigger agency like VShojo.

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>>27435954
>>27436150

And those are the last hololive collabs she is going to get.

hololive want absolutely nothing to do with kson or the cutting board

nijisanji will also cut off vshitshow to protect chinese interests

kson and rushia have effectively fucked over vshojo collabs

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27436224

*threatens suicide for the 7th time this year because nobody wants to talk to the tranny*

>> No.27436231

>>27436126
not happening anon, risu and liara are confirmed upcoming guests alongside more council and jp members

>> No.27436252 [DELETED] 

>>27436219
They can still collab with Kson's gang like Pikamee, Mari, etc.

>> No.27436282

>>27436219
>>27436231

>> No.27436301 [DELETED] 

>>27436224
Good thing VShojo has emotional support staff, something Cover would never even consider having.

>> No.27436322

>>27436219
Aw thats cute you think they’ll cut them off, the collabs will continue and they’ll continue to live rent free in your head

>> No.27436323

>>27436231
Sure they are....watch as it's announced the collab has been "postponed" for "reasons".

>> No.27436326 [DELETED] 

>>27431708
Holy fuck holoturds just got atomized

>> No.27436343

>>27436301
>vshojo having staff
Proof?

>> No.27436364 [DELETED] 

>>27431708
HOLY SHIT I JUST WITNESSED A MURDER

>> No.27436621 [DELETED] 

>>27436343
Holoshit barely has staff outside upper management and they pull all the strings faggot

>> No.27436653

>>27436322
Yeah, I’m sure Cover will be cool with an NDA violator being active in a rival company. Had it only been Kson, I’d say there’s a chance of otherwise, but you rabble rousers seem intent upon it being her.

>> No.27436729

>>27436653
Different branches retard its like the niji problem where every branch except nijien can collab with hololive

>> No.27436766

>>27436653
But Rushia isn't in. Nazuna is someone different.

>> No.27436768 [DELETED] 

>>27436322
Based

>> No.27436808 [DELETED] 

>>27436653
She never violated an NDA, brony. It was found that she was terminated because management hated her. Watch her 2 weeks old Twitcast for proof.

>> No.27436856 [DELETED] 

>>27436219
froot a cute

>> No.27436869

>>27436808
Cuckdeads....

>> No.27436915

>>27436766
They had better hope it is someone else. I don’t put it past them to think they’ve saved her from the clutches of >muh idol culture hell, only for it to backfire.

>> No.27437010

>>27436915
That isn't the point. They never have to say Nazuna is/was Rushia. That's the joy in reincarnating.

>> No.27437043 [DELETED] 

>>27436915
What's going to backfire when her new company has pretty much rolled out the red carpet for her?

>> No.27437179

>>27437010
Do you think Cover will magically turn a blind eye? That it won’t look as though Vshojo ignored the typical outcast practice and brought her in out of spite? As suggested here >>27436729, do you believe that would somehow not halt liaisons between the companies, regardless of branch? IronMouse will just keep getting Holos on her show, especially the JP ones, just because they can’t piece it together?

>> No.27437199

>>27436808
Her spell is truly unbreakable it seems.

>> No.27437205

>>27436219
That means every major corpo will be isolated.

>> No.27437320

>>27431708
UHHHH HOLOKEKS EXPLAIN????

>> No.27437330 [DELETED] 

>>27431708
MURDER

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>>27431708
Put me in the screencap

>> No.27437400

>>27437205
No, just vshojo, which isn't a major corp to begin with.

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>>27435815
>>27437400
>get bodied
>d-d-doesn't count
PFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.27437648

>wojaks
A white flag if I ever have seen one.

>> No.27437681

>>27431708
>only 10 members

>> No.27437736

>>27431375
PC isn't any better, the company is literally full of /pol/acks

>> No.27437806

>>27437736
That's what makes them fun and a good company, yes.

>> No.27437859

>>27437400
No. HoloEn can't Collab with NijiEN and now they won't be able to Collab with Vshojo

>> No.27437906

>>27436808
>believe the menhera psycho suicidebaiter
>take their word as proof
Lol okay then if she didn't violate an NDA and has proof then she was wrongly dismissed and could surely with ease drum up an airtight legal case against cover?
Right?
No you delusional faggot lmao at your mongoloid smoothbrain

>> No.27438036 [DELETED] 

>>27437906
>believe the shady Japanese corporation
>the pathological liars of the industry
Lol okay then if you didn't just pull that shit out of your chud ass you'd know that she's in the middle of an ongoing lawsuit against Cover and that her battle is far from over. Why don't you pay attention to the wrongfully terminated getting justice in the end with a new beginning to carry her through life.

>> No.27438042

>>27437859
Who gives a fuck? JP can collab with JP and that's all that matters. EN can get fucked.

>> No.27438050

>>27437736
Fishman doesn't however let Pippa get away with everything and also has denied some collabs that would have been seen as too risky to the brand

>> No.27438088

>>27431018
t. seething hololive middleman

>> No.27438092

>>27437859
If both cover and anycolor are unhappy about vshojo they might finally agree to EN collabs since both groups will lose out without them

>> No.27438098

>>27438050
Exactly. PC has actual management. And even the Yabbit knows not to cross some lines.

>> No.27438116

>>27438036
>she's in the middle of a lawsuit against cover
2 weeks trust the plan guise!
lol faggot

>> No.27438162

>>27438036
>believe the shady Japanese corporation
As opposed to an american corporation? What reality do you live in, both are shit

>> No.27438212
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>>27431708
>thinks VShojo is a major vtuber company
>been as big as a single Holo gen for the longest time
>can't kick eachother out cause a single loss could singlehandedly end their tiny group
roru
rumao eben

>> No.27438224

>>27438092
>since both groups will lose out without them
How? NijiEN has enough members to collab with internally and the same with Holos. Neither would be bereft considering they haven't needed shit from eachother to the present.

>> No.27438246 [DELETED] 

>>27438162
Japan is less than third world in the working world. America is at least in the top fifteen or twenty worldwide.

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TALENT FREEDOM

>> No.27438297 [DELETED] 

>>27438162
America is at least embracing the human-centered workplace even though it lags behind the Nordic model. Japan is lightyears away in comparison. I think an American company is automatically more ethical on that notion alone.

>> No.27438298

>>27438246
>3rd largest economy in the world
>after the US and China
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>> No.27438309

Is there any evidence that this lawsuit exists? I'm probably just blind, but I haven't seen it and archive reps aren't helping. By evidence I mean more than just the word of someone who has admitted to having mental health problems.

>> No.27438341 [DELETED] 

>>27438298
In terms of working conditions, chud. I've seen sweatshops in Bangladesh with better working conditions than a Japanese corporation.

>> No.27438348

>>27438297
>America is at least embracing the human-centered workplace
Anon you should check what company designed the wagie cagie

>> No.27438366

>>27431810
unironically lower than hololive

>> No.27438377

This week has been amazing. I have consumed so much seething holocel and idolfag cope. This is the most fun I’ve had on this shithole in years. Also if you genuinely believe your precious “idols” aren’t getting dicked down on the reg I have a bridge to sell you or maybe YouTube membership…?

>> No.27438390 [DELETED] 

>>27438348
Not in the tech and artiicial intelligence industries, which is what we're describing here.

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even japs dislike idolsharts from hololive

>> No.27438418

>>27438366
Well yeah, because fuckbuddies and clients aren't boyfriends.

>> No.27438454 [DELETED] 

>>27431810
Lower than Hololive kek. Your own fans have dug up enough information to find out that 30+ of them have boyfriends. Just check Nyfco for more.

>> No.27438497 [DELETED] 

>>27438377
Bro same. The only thing I can't wait for is C*ver to finally go under once and for all and Holoshit to cease operations.
>>27438417
Least sane Japanese fan lmaoooooooo

>> No.27438504 [DELETED] 

>>27438212
>still sore from getting assblasted

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>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *THROWS MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
> Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream?!! *PUNCHES monitor* who these WHORES think i am?!! i just donated FUCKING 100$ this YEAR!
> Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today... *smashes keyboard* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND! NOW I'M FUCKING LONELY

>> No.27438532

>>27438309
She mentioned a lawyer helping her write the statement, literal children think lawyers only deal in lawsuits. That's it.

>> No.27438535 [DELETED] 

>>27438418
>he lacks critical information
Should we tell him about Nyfco/Matome bros?

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>> No.27438578 [DELETED] 

>>27438525
More
>>27438532
That's only what she wants you livestock to believe. These issues get done behind closed doors in Japan. Mikeneko is actually suing Cover for slander right now and she has all of the evidence on her side to win it.

>> No.27438590

>>27438535
>a literally porn star
>a tranny
>a chick who fucked around so much she is dying of shit she caught
>a prostitute
>some slut who cheated on her husband
Among others.

>> No.27438597

it is over for Cover, the girls should jumping ship while they still have chance............ i think haachama will leave first.......... maybe en will disband after seeing Vshojo talent freedom........

>> No.27438624

>>27431375
>PhaseConnect
Pippa is messing around with a right wing vtuber called Ethan Ralph

>> No.27438631 [DELETED] 

>>27438597
Haachama is graduating in August.

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>Fans manage to piss off every fanbase
>They manage to get exiled from many boards
>It's everyone else's fault
>eternal victims yet always the aggressors
>can't criticize them or you're called a zhang (nazi)
> Brainwashing and alienation throught the degenerate idol culture
> Destruction of the family. The CEO wants their fans to be obsessed with their idols and forget real relationships
> blatant nepotism
> revisionism and elitism

>> No.27438659

>>27438578
honestly between vshojoJP and this lawsuit i think cover is done for. they've completely lost the trust of the western market. we want to see vtubers, not anime girls pretending to be idols

>> No.27438670

>>27438578
If it is all behind closed doors then how do you know? Are you her door?

>> No.27438684 [DELETED] 

>>27438590
Many of the Hololive roommates were offpako queens and prostitutes and more than three quarters of JP had a boyfriend in the past KEK

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>a literally porn star
>a tranny
>a chick who fucked around so much she is dying of shit she caught
>a prostitute
>some slut who cheated on her husband
> Among others.

>> No.27438713

>>27438659
>they've completely lost the trust of the western market
And why exactly does this matter for a japanese company? HoloEN can dissapear tomorrow for all I care but I don't know why you retards are discussing this as if JP viewers even gave a shit about this

>> No.27438720 [DELETED] 

>>27438670
No but I watch her streams and am subbed to her Fanbox. You'd be insanely delusional to think Cover stands a chance against a slander lawsuit.

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>> No.27438732

>>27438684
Sure. And they still have comparatively lower body counts and the good sense to not boast about it. No one but the delusional thinks they are virgins. Now if you excuse me, I'm going to go fap to some of Miko and Choco's preholo ero audio works.

>> No.27438760

>>27433958
Funny, Neither Nyanners nor the rest of Vshojo can collab with Kizuna AI anymore because of china
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Yn8Ga9Cok

>> No.27438768 [DELETED] 

>>27438659
Return to how VTubing was before 2018 PLEASE.
>>27438713
Holoshit barely has a following in Japan rumao

>> No.27438769

>>27438590
About 20% of these rrats have a grain of truth to them yet every new time I see them blown up they are made way more extreme. None of these accurately describe what any of the evidence we have actually shows.

>> No.27438782 [DELETED] 

>>27438660
the biggest ones always devolve into shitty cults and echochambers, many such cases

>> No.27438803 [DELETED] 

>>27438732
OH NO NO HOLOKEKS WHERE DID WE GO SO WRONG WE HAD TO COPE THIS HARD LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.27438822

>>27438713
a lot of the girls in hololive have expressed disdain for management. coco just proved you can quit hololive, join an agency like vshojo instead of a corpo, and end up doing just fine. guarantee you a lot of girls are going to be bringing up better conditions when it comes to resigning them. could definitely see a few of them with close ties to kson leaving, which will definitely impact the JP branch
plus with the lawsuit they're about to get bogged down in even more antis and money problems. could honestly see them going bankrupt since most of the time slander lawsuits in japan are really easy to win, and rushia can definitely win it

>> No.27438821

>>27438732
>he says with 0 evidence
Lmao whatever helps you corpo war loser

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>> No.27438847

>>27438768
>Holoshit barely has a following in Japan rumao
As opposed to?

>> No.27438851 [DELETED] 

>>27438760
Bro
WHO THE FUCK CARES? KIZUNA AI IS RETIRED

>> No.27438906

gonna sit back and continue to enjoy the holoxvshojo collabs

>> No.27438907 [DELETED] 

>>27438660
Holocels are literal cultists and uneducated shitbags who watch against their own best interests.
>>27438847
Mogged by Nijisanji and VShojo ofc

>> No.27438919

>>27438769
All of those are the truth anon.
>mel does porn
>tranny is a tranny
>ironmouse is dying from shit she caught fucking around
>vei has done prostitution
>froot cheated

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> IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD
IDOL GOOD IDOL GOOD!!!

>> No.27438950 [DELETED] 

>>27438906
Same. Mousey told us Polka and La+ are next and can be expected this month or next month.

>> No.27438965

>>27438822
>coco just proved you can quit hololive, go indie, and end up doing just fine.
This has been posted daily since her graduation
Oh yeah let's how that ended
>a grand total of zero (0(cero)) graduations in one entire year
Whoa... They sure are taking their time to graduate... Next contract renovation for sure vshojobros...

>> No.27438998 [DELETED] 

Imagine unironically thinking idol culture is good. Holochuds are truly a brainwashed cult and no wonder everyone fucking hates them and their exposed black company of lying whores and shady management.

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>> No.27439043 [DELETED] 

>>27438965
100% RETENTION RATE BRO
You keep just taking Ls do you Holochud? Besides, I already know which 2 talents are graduating within the next 2 months and are on their way to VShojo JP to reuinte with Kson and Rushia.

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> Whoa... They sure are taking their time to graduate... Next contract renovation for sure vshojobros...

>> No.27439055

>>27438907
>Mogged by Nijisanji and VShojo ofc
The top 1% of nijisanji competing against the top 10% of hololive isn't exactly mogging anon
Also vshojo JP literally has 2 members and Kson has shit for views compared to other companies, and if that isn't actually mikecat she's becoming as irrelevant as silvervale after one week

>> No.27439069

>>27438919
Not gonna argue I have done my reps I know you are straight up wrong on several of these and misrepresenting several others. Take a vacation if you think you know something I don’t

>> No.27439104

>>27438965
not what i said. "join an agency like vshojo" is different than going indie. vshojo gives talent freedom and provides funding and legal guidance without putting stupid restrictions on them. this type of model is going to be far more popular in the future, and i can easily see other talents eyeing up vshojo now, especially now that they have the two highest superchat earners in vtubing history
and it's true, no one's graduated this year. yet. just give it a bit of time. at least one of them will graduate and "magically" another ex-holo talent will join vshojoJP next year, you can mark my words

>> No.27439106

>>27439043
>which 2 talents are graduating within the next 2 months
Anon the contract renovation for everyone has passed by already, it's over

>> No.27439114 [DELETED] 

>>27439055
VShojo dominated merch sales in Japan last month and made at least $6 million in Subway ads alone you're just scared VShojo is going to take over Holoshit's primary market they're losing at a rapid rate.

>> No.27439128

>>27431935
>1. Vshojos are free to collab with womever they want, they don't have to ingore their friends in the interest of corporate wars or to keep a captive audience.
And yet, Hololive and Vshojo have worked together before. Albeit, it was really fucking awkward.
>2. Vshojos can play whatever game they want, they don't have to restrict to the small catalogue of games that management negotiated to monetize, again money over freedom.
But play nothing at all or play the same three shit games every day.
>3. Vshojos can openly have a significant other, they don't need to hide him and lie to their audience, manipulating them and stringing them along
Can't disagree with this, but some companies are going for the idol shit, therefore, are not allowed to have a significant other. It also doesn't stop them from being whores and cunts.
>4. Vshojos can talk about their political opinions. They don't have to cowardly hide their values in order not to offend chuds.
I'd rather leave politics out of this entire thing altogether and is the reason why I like hololive or any vtubers that don't talk about politics more.

>> No.27439150

>>27439043
yeah honestly it's pretty obvious at this point when you see who has connections with them...

>> No.27439161 [DELETED] 

>>27439106
Coco left 5 months before her contract expired bro.

>> No.27439192

>>27439114
Proof next thread?

>> No.27439210 [DELETED] 

>>27439043
Haachama, La+, and maybe Matsuri. I can name two or three others I think will join them as well.

>> No.27439218

>>27438851
You seem to forget she is going to release an anime series. She will be back when that happens.

>> No.27439242

>>27439104
>vshojo gives talent freedom and provides funding and legal guidance without putting stupid restrictions on them
Kson had freedom, funding (she got a bunch of sponsors btw) and legal guidance, and certainly better than vshojo's team of monkeys that almost got them a lawsuit. You DO know that none of this is exclusive to companies and that people like holos can EASILY get personal sponsors and lawyers right? I don't think anyone is that stingy that they would join a company for a "free" manager and attorney (which are worse than what they could get)
>just give it a bit of time.
2 more weeks bro, just give me 2 more weeks

>> No.27439249 [DELETED] 

why are holosharts seething now..? they already got kicked of /jp/

>> No.27439256 [DELETED] 

>>27439192
My friend runs an store in Akiba and VShojo merch sold out within a day, especially Mouse and Nyanners who have more Japanese fans than Roboko and Mel.

>> No.27439301

>>27439114
alright i love vshojo but hearing ngl they made money off subway ads is honestly fucking hilarious. like do they just have posters of nyanners deepthroating a stale ass sandwich or something? do the talents just plug subway into each of their streams? like it's honestly such a weird collab lmao

>> No.27439305

>>27439249
Kson and maybe Rushia have joined Vshojo

>> No.27439306 [DELETED] 

>>27439242
It's OK to cope with reality Holobro. Never too late to join the winning side :)
>>27439249
And we'll fuckin do it again on /vt/ when they get exiled to /trash/ KEK

>> No.27439309

>>27439256
>than Roboko and Mel
That's.... not really a high bar.

>> No.27439317

>>27439161
No, she announced her graduation one month after her contract was up, she was PLANNING her graduation for months but she didn't actually end her contract before the date

>> No.27439354 [DELETED] 

>>27439301
>ESL faggot doesn't know what a Subway train is
Indonesian education everyone

>> No.27439359

>>27439306
>anon forgets that Vshitshow used to be exiled in /trash/
And soon to return to that standard.

>> No.27439368

FREE WILL IS A MYTH,
RELIGION IS A JOKE,
WE ARE ALL PAWNS,
CONTROLLED BY SOMETHING GREATER....

MEMES,
THE DNA OF THE SOUL

>> No.27439369

>>27439256
>VShojo merch sold out within a day
Sugee, that's pretty nice of them! Maybe in a few years they can get to the level of being sold out minute 1 and being able to transfer this level of recognition to other products

>> No.27439375

>>27431935
>Vshojos can openly have a significant other, they don't need to hide him and lie to their audience, manipulating them and stringing them along
This is the stupidest shit ever. Your character is not you. It's a persona you play as an entertainer. You can have relationship in your own irlself but dont bring that shit up on a stream unless it's your content. Keep those private shit on your private life. I dont want to see those fake shit masked as genuine if it aint for entertainment and just for a chuuba to virtue signaling or anti'd a certain genre.

>> No.27439405 [DELETED] 

>>27439359
AND NOW ITS HOLOSHIT'S TURN WITH HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED RUMAO RUMAO

>> No.27439458

>>27439405
>things that’ll never happen

>> No.27439470 [DELETED] 

>>27431935
Louder for the Holochuds and idolcels in the back.

>> No.27439510

>>27439242
yeah, freedom to get sent to the banishment room by cover before being essentially forced to graduate
fact: cover restricts collabs and games more than vshojo
fact: cover owns all the rights of the character you're vtubing as. you own nothing, whereas in vshojo you own everything
fact: cover actively suppresses its talents freedom of speech more than vshojo, and many talents are unable to speak in any way about worldly matters without facing massive repercussions. vshojo doesn't have this problem because they're american based and don't give a shit about shilling to xi
these are all huge red flags and policies from a bygone age. vshojo is the future

>> No.27439529

>>27439306
Come on anon I can't respond to your bait if you don't give me good material, at least give your dumbest argument you can think of

>> No.27439528 [DELETED] 

>>27439458
I'm a friend of a mod in the IRC. He said they are discussing it. They all hate Holoshit pretty much so prepare to share a board with diapfurs rumao

>> No.27439580

>>27439528
Caps or stfu.

>> No.27439584 [DELETED] 

>>27439510
Don't engage with Holocels they're immune to facts. There's a big reason why Cover has already lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in the second quarter of 2022 alone.

>> No.27439587

>>27439510
>kson
>kson
>kson
ESLchama...

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Holo bros we failed

>> No.27439598

>>27439256
My mom is the governor of Tokyo and she said you are lying

>> No.27439635 [DELETED] 

>>27439590
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.27439683 [DELETED] 

>Ironmouse and Watame collab happening
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.27439687

>>27439528
Anon I hope you know /vt/ isn't the only place that talks about holo, or even vshojo

>> No.27439721

>>27439590
this pretty much confirms haachama is going to collab with coco and potentially join vshojo in a year or so... i wonder if she can convince kanata to come with her. /vt/ would literally implode

>> No.27439745 [DELETED] 

>>27439590
Your oshi now has no excuse NOT to follow Kson now. This way we'll know who the chink whores and traitors are after all!

>> No.27439761

>>27439721
>this pretty much confirms haachama is going to collab with coco
So why didn't she do it in the entire year she was indie retardbro?

>> No.27439783 [DELETED] 

>>27439721
I CANT STOP GETTING HARD, PLEASE HAPPEN, ITS ALMOST INEVITABLE

>> No.27439806

>>27439761
does haachama even stream that much anymore? only thing I’ve seen is the ironmouse collab recently

>> No.27439813 [DELETED] 

>>27439590
OH NO NO NO NO NO, HOLOKEKS?!

>> No.27439827 [DELETED] 

>>27439761
Well it's happening next month.

>> No.27439851

>>27439683
vshojo can't stop winning, holokeks can't stop seething. can't wait for them to watch ironmouse's stream and realize what they're missing out on. they'll drop cover faster than cover dropped rushia

>> No.27439869

>>27439806
She takes breaks very often but that's not an excuse considering this is the girl that responded to a no-name anti indie vtuber that showed her dox with a rap, if she could and wanted a collab with kson she would have already done so

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The amount of all-caps trannies ITT

>> No.27439875 [DELETED] 

>>27439590
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.27439892

>>27439874
It’s quite odd, I must say.

>> No.27439933 [DELETED] 

>>27439874
COPE

>> No.27439939

>>27439528
Proof?

>> No.27439970

>>27439874
I would be surprised if it's more than 2 guys responding to themselves and I'm being generous

>> No.27439997

>>27439939
he said he was a friend of a mod, trust him bro

>> No.27440005 [DELETED] 

CONFIRMED JOINING VSHOJO
Ui
Noel/Canaan
Haachama/Pikurusu
Kanata/Nozomu

>> No.27440023

>>27431935
>4. Vshojos can talk about their political opinions. They don't have to cowardly hide their values in order not to offend chuds.
Well they couldn't hire Kson without this, Kson is Anti LGBT

>> No.27440051 [DELETED] 

>>27439970
I would be surprised if you're the only Holofag left by year's end once they're a thing of the past.

>> No.27440059

>>27440005
Anon... You got the wrong roommate...

>> No.27440096 [DELETED] 

>>27440023
She's an unironic lesbian bro

>> No.27440140

>>27434691
And the ones who dont spout any political bullshit have more fans, better income and get more opportunities. Most companies shy away from supporting anyone spewing political bullshit.
Cover would likely fire any one of the girls if they ran their mouths off like that.

>> No.27440151

>>27440023
literally lying to scrape together a meager argument
be better

>> No.27440178

>>27440096
>>27440151
>trans rights? What's that?
Being L doesn't mean you support the GBT retards

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Bros….

>> No.27440215 [DELETED] 

>>27440182
Nyanners next please

>> No.27440258 [DELETED] 

>>27440178
She's collabed with transgender VTubers as Kson lmao
>And the ones who dont spout any political bullshit have more fans, better income and get more opportunities
Not true when Melody makes more than almost all of Holoshit

>> No.27440317 [DELETED] 

>>27440182
OH NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
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>> No.27440326

>>27438732
First it was
>hololive are pure virgins and aren't whores
Now it's
>well at least they aren't as big of whores

What's the next goalpost to move?
They only take 3 cumshots a day which is less than vshojo?

>> No.27440341

>>27440258
Proof next thread?

>> No.27440360 [DELETED] 

>>27440326
Bro even /hlg/ admits they're all whores. There's nothing to like about Holoshit at all.

>> No.27440406 [DELETED] 

>>27440341
VShojo doesn't take away from their streams. In fact, they have a deal with Twitch in which their talents receive 4x more than the average content creator there.

>> No.27440435

>>27440406
I think you may have omitted something there...

>> No.27440442

>>27440360
No you don't understand
>Whores that lie/hide their whore-ness > Openly being whores
Nevermind the fact that every vtuber is whore or damn near, if they hide it's the same as if they were a virgin!

>> No.27440479 [DELETED] 

>>27440442
It's the other way around and you'd know it from being in /hlg/ kek

>> No.27440489

>>27440406
>they have a deal with Twitch in which their talents receive 4x more than the average content creator there.
Proof next thread?

>> No.27440508

>>27440406
Whoa that's amazing, now could you please post a picture of mel's total earnings and the top holo's earnings to end this debate, I just need proof and you must have this considering you're so sure of this

>> No.27440518

>>27440442
Could you tell me why you’re on the board, then?

>> No.27440543

Man I am so glad my oshis company gives her less freedom and takes a big superchat cut and merch cut and has the ip rights for my character. I am so glad. Holofags you are all so fucking dumb holy shit.

>> No.27440580 [DELETED] 

>>27440508
YouTube takes half of all earnings away, Cover takes somewhere in between 20 and 30 percent based on past outputs. Twitch doesn't take earnings away and neither does VShojo, which has a deal to quadruple their earnings in a sweet deal they have with Twitch.

>> No.27440603

>>27440543
Yeah, I’m sure you actually care beyond trying to topple Hololive.

>>27440580
That doesn’t seem to be a picture, though.

>> No.27440626 [DELETED] 

>>27440543
That's what happens when thousands of retards become corporate drones. It's why I left that shithole when VShojo got big this year and was shown to be an agency that puts their talents first and foremost.

>> No.27440633

I unironically prefer Nijisanji to VShojo

>> No.27440674

>>27440580
Yes, that's amazing for them anon, now please post mel's earning and the top holo's earnings, you have them right? This ends the moment you post proof that says you're right

>> No.27440675 [DELETED] 

>>27440603
>trying to topple Hololive
ALREADY HAPPENED LMAO, YOU ARE LITERALLY THIRD PLACE RIGHT NOW, YOU WANNA BE FOURTH OR LOWER?

>> No.27440696

>>27440633
luca, vox finana and selen are the only good members

>> No.27440700

>>27439510
>Cover
A company permanently blacklisted in China.
>Shilling to Xi
You aren't even a secondary are you? Had you ever even heard of these companies before you were organized to shitpost? Incidentally, the person "responsible" for Cover getting all that chink hate now works for the people you are shilling for. Hope they have fun with hundreds of bots spamming every talents' chat and twitter hashtag until the end of days. Thank you kson for being the poison pill Vshojo was dumb enough to swallow. Thank you Vshojo for being blinded by dollar signs and swallowing(something I'm sure you are used to doing).

>> No.27440732

>>27436103
Scavengers aren't on top of the food chain

>> No.27440737

>>27440675
Proof?

>> No.27440751

>>27435184
>never been any drama
Froot cheating
Nyanners flipfloping
Vei being a dickwad
Melody's design
top it off with everyone being a bunch of whores

>> No.27440752

>>27440675
Nijitard... Your company has had 5 top talents graduating this year alone...

>> No.27440774 [DELETED] 

>>27440700
>blacklisted in China
So is VShojo. BASED!

>> No.27440813

>>27432320
Mainly because their business model is based around them taking a share of their earnings for pretty much corporate shilling.

>> No.27440846

>>27436205
You're being too obvious with the falseflagging, lern2nuance

>> No.27440854

>>27440751
Anon these are all dramas no one cares about outside this board...

>> No.27440864
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So Vshoujo is just managing agent for independent vtubers like the pic I made few months ago?

>> No.27440889 [DELETED] 

>>27440752
100% retention rate in VShojo. I could care less for Nijisanji but at least they're better than Hololive.

>> No.27440892

>>27438454
>check this website known for hear day and loose conjectures

Vshojo literally talk about what anal beads their boyfriend used on them last night. You are retarded nigger

>> No.27440926

>>27439043
I still remember when coco graduated the doom posting listing all the girls that were going to follow her.
Yet here we are...

>> No.27440965 [DELETED] 

>>27440846
That's exactly what your precious darkness is doing right now KEK
>>27440864
Yeah pretty much, and they're being paid a fortune by them too.

>> No.27440969

>>27440752
you don't even know who niji's top 10 is lmao

>> No.27441009

>>27438624
She did one stream on him. She hasn't mentioned his name in months.

>> No.27441012

>>27440965
>darkness
Again, proof?

>> No.27441017 [DELETED] 

>>27440926
This board taught me to never discredit rrats. Hilarious seeing the Holobronies actually writhe when they were true.

>> No.27441062

>>27440626
100 twitch points has been deposited into your veibae account

>> No.27441071

>>27438659
>we

>> No.27441108 [DELETED] 

>>27441062
My pleasure. Vei is among the most authentic VTubers there are. Way more than any of your Holocunts

>> No.27441115

>77 ips
Not so subtle with samefag huh?

>> No.27441117

>>27440926
She got one, Haachama and Marine are next. Once the dominos start falling it's too late. Yagoo needs to immediately up the pay of all of his top girls

>> No.27441122

Holofags shit list
Doxxed every talent
canceled/attacked talents for having a bf
harassed talents for collabing with people they don’t like
doxxed /b/omu’s nudes

>> No.27441155

>>27439210
>source: the great bear spirit revealed it to me in a vision quest

>> No.27441189

>>27441108
200 bonus twitch points have been deposited into your ntanners account

>> No.27441218

>>27438282
All out WHORE

>> No.27441220 [DELETED] 

>>27441189
Nyanners is even more authentic than Veibae. You just keep posting Ls do you Holochudlet?

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>>27440626
kys you simp for literal fucking whores who take miles of bbc in their rotting fetus-graveyard vaginas and you think your opinion matters?
>but but muh strong independent womyn
vshojo is the whorehouse of the vtuber world and you are the cuck janitor that willingly licks the cum off the floor just to 'own the holochuds'

>> No.27441272 [DELETED] 

>>27440926
Noel, Haachama, and Kanata are almost 100% leaving this year based on what I just saw.

>> No.27441276

Veibae hate

>> No.27441299

So you holoretards please explain to me why would some of the talents not jump ship when vshojojp proofs themself and they see that vshojo only takes a cut from fucking merch money?

>> No.27441315

>>27441220
So how authentic are the rest?

Is Froot authentic for being a cheating whore? Or hime authentic for never streaming? How is a text to speech tranny authentic?

>> No.27441318 [DELETED] 

>>27441232
Hololive is FULL OF WHORES and your own fanbase admits it KEK

>> No.27441319

>>27440965
Did you mean to reply to someone else? You're samefagging so hard you can't even keep up with yourself

>> No.27441323

>>27441232
seethe harder fag

>> No.27441341

>>27440969
Top talents doesn't mean the top 10 retardchama

>> No.27441361

>>27441108
Completely agree anon. Would an inauthentic VTuber admit she would lie to her fans about her relationship status if it got her more money?...wait

>> No.27441372

>>27441220
>posting Ls

>> No.27441373
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Man the holo cope lately has been entertaining af

>> No.27441386 [DELETED] 

>>27441299
Because they're idiots who don't know that any Hololive talent can leave them at any time and just get paid at VShojo in a heartbeat

>> No.27441404

>>27440674
Still waiting btw, I literally can't wait to be btfo'd

>> No.27441424

>>27431469
How do you know i'm Turkish?

>> No.27441432 [DELETED] 

>>27441386
Paid at VShojo for more than 10x more than they currently do at Hololive. And everyone loves that US Dollar.

>> No.27441444

>>27440696
>finana
The rest you listed are fine though. Elira is good too

>> No.27441478

Vei with the words talent freedom could honeslty be used as an anti-vshojo ad. Stop engaging with this vshojo tribalfag who has probably made 50% of the posts in this thread. Youre just making it look like an argument and not shilling

>> No.27441486 [DELETED] 

>>27441404
There is no proof, you're just going to have to wait when the exodus happens within the next few months. Haachama is leaving in August, Noel is leaving in November, Kanata is leaving in October.

>> No.27441522

>>27441432
>Paid at VShojo for more than 10x more than they currently do at Hololive
Whoa that's amazing, how much do they get paid? With a picture attached

>> No.27441536 [DELETED] 

Watame is also leaving in December

>> No.27441569

>>27441486
How exactly does that relate to mel's earning which you should have when you said she earns more than the top holo, which you should also have the date? You weren't making shit up right anon?

>> No.27441583

>>27441444
Honestly haven’t looked into niji in a while, last stream i saw was the mel and finana lewdcast

>> No.27441648 [DELETED] 

VShojo Wave 2
Ui
Haachama
Kanata
Noel
Watame

>> No.27441667

>>27441341
top 50 so it fits that retarded statement?

>> No.27441684

>>27441648
>removing the roommates after getting them wrong
Lmao anon at least wait for another thread

>> No.27441717

>>27440580
>Twitch doesn't take earnings away

>> No.27441740

>>27441667
Top 50 is 25% of nijisanji anon, and no retard, top member is an expression, it just meant that they were actually relevant within niji

>> No.27441757 [DELETED] 

>>27441717
Indeed. Their deal with VShojo turns their total earnings into quadruple the average content creator's so the cut cancels out by default.

>> No.27441799

>>27441757
That's an objectively false statement.

>> No.27441802

>>27441757
Holy shit anon! That's amazing! Please post proof so that you can btfo all the retards in this thread once and for all

>> No.27441810

>>27441740
top 100 then? Go ahead and tell us these 5 top talents

>> No.27442003 [DELETED] 

>>27441799
As false as Cover not taking away SC earnings?

>> No.27442080

>>27442003
Please post this ultra exclusive contract vshoujo apparently has that says twitch will not take their cut from the initial purchase of bits.

>> No.27442102

>>27441757
Please show proof vshitshow get 4x twitch monetisation

>> No.27442135

>>27441810
>Lulu
>Mayuzumi
>Bora
>Melissa
Gibara did it on march last year so you win this time nijifag

>> No.27442146

I guess proof only exists in the 22nd century or something.

>> No.27442192

>331 replies
>81 posters
embarrassing

>> No.27442278

>>27433813
beyblade talked about his stream in a positive light. Im willing to bet it's because he wasn't getting enough money to support his new firstborn, so he left to get an actual job. Which is understandable, I don't understand how Arthars was able to do it with how small his viewership is in FF14

>> No.27442280

>>27441232
I don't care how many men they have fucked. They are not my wife, because I am not delusional like Holobronnies. You keep repeating the word cuck cuck cuck because you actually believe these women, that don't even know you exist are your girlfriends. Talk about mental illness.
I am not even attracted to 99% of the roomates. And I don't even care about the purity of the attractive ones, just like I don't care about the marital status of an actress when I watch a movie.

>> No.27442365 [DELETED] 

>>27442280
Preach to the choir here.

>> No.27442386

>>27442280
But what would be your ideal number of sexual partners for your wife?

>> No.27442401 [DELETED] 

>>27441478
>unironically thinks there's only one anon who dislikes hololive after all the threads holokeks have shit up
self delusion comes naturally to the holoturd

>> No.27442513

>>27442135
lulu didn't do it this year. Bora's not a top talent what the fuck
yeah I win because none of them joined a rival company

>> No.27442561

>>27442386
I don't care. As long as she's hot and young. I would rather marry a very attractive slut than a fugly virgin.

>> No.27442623

>>27442401
>reply to that post 20 minutes later
>lowercase
You aren't even vshojofag you fucking nigger, you only use vsj to shit on hololive

>> No.27442687

>>27442623
Not an argument

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>>27442513
Not a top talent my ass, she was growing past a lot of JPs in her last few months even before she announced her graduation

>> No.27442982

>>27431018
I thank the Chinese for taking Judas out of Hololive

>> No.27443063

>thread goes from past bump limit to 251 posts
>all those (deleted) posts
Holy FUCKING kek

>> No.27443095

>>27442192
>schizo got banned
>now it's 252 posts with 79 posters
kek

>> No.27443223

>>27439375
Holobronnies have never distinguished between the Roommate having a boyfriend and the character. And holomems are constantly shamed here for their rommate antics.

>> No.27443241

>>27443095
The only silver lining to schizos is mods pulling down their pants in front of everyone showing just how tryhard they are attempting to look like "the majority" when really it's like 2 people who are INCREDIBLY assblasted about hololive's existence. probably fucking fulgur and reimu or some shit.

>> No.27443335

>>27431935
So their """""""management""""""" literally does nothing at all to actually shape up their charm/entertainment skills/public relations at all, just takes a bit of their money and rides their already-existing clout like parasites. Actual talents, actors etc have agents and managers who try to prevent them from tarding out too much in public, that is fucking elemental to growing celebrity and we can see how it backfires in how nyanners/vei ate shit and filter down their audience to people with no judgment/taste at all. what a joke.

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Oh, I guess the thread is below bump limit again. Well in that case, I would just like to say one thing. I don't hate Vshojo because they supposedly have more "freedom." I don't even mind the sex jokes and political takes. I hate them because they are terrible at being vtubers despite claiming to be vtubers. They think they are smug by parodying vtuber norms and blurring the boundary between real and virtual, but that just begs the question of why they chose to call themselves vtubers in the first place. If they don't want to be vtubers, that fine. Just don't call yourselves vtubers then. It's like trying to buy a truck from a car dealer, and the dealer insists that a motorcycle is actually a truck because they both have wheels and a motor. It's not, and I don't want it. If you call yourself a vtuber, then actually be one. This goes for indies too. A lot of them don't seem to know anything about vtubers and are just abusing the word because it's become a buzzword, and I hate all of them for it.

>> No.27443425

>>27443241
it's obviously risu and ollie

>> No.27443543

>>27443405
character roleplay stopped being a requirement to vtubers in 2018, tourist. Your metaphors are also trash because vtubing is just an anime avatar

>> No.27443557

>>27443405
The western scene on twitch overall usually are ultra-cringe copycats who don't actually understand what it is they're copying, including vshojo. It's a bit analogous to those "how to draw manga" books of the early 2000s made by random white dudes claiming to be "experts" who actually have never made a manga and have horrible art. It's not 100% of them, but probably 95+ percent bad.

>> No.27443745

>>27443543
>vtubing is just an anime avatar
You clearly are the real tourist when it comes to vtubers. Go back to Twitch/Twitter.

>> No.27443956

>>27443745
go back to the sewer because it's no one's duty to stroke your pathetic loser ego. You're clearly an idolshit invader from 2019+

>> No.27443984

if there is anything this thread has taught me is that holo/Vshojo collabs are likely dead. The fanbases hate each other and Vshojos W is being framed as "Cover is bad". HOWEVER, I know for a fact that english speaking kson and japanese speaking kson are at different levels of slutiness: JP kson's slutiness seems like a silly girl's carelessness, while EN kson slutiness seems like she just being a bitch. I think the "game plan" is to give the EN audience the "Amerika numbah one" hype for #'s sake, but when working in JP stick to more standard chuuba work and much less antagonistic work relationships

>> No.27443990

>>27443405
>parodying vtuber norms and blurring the boundary between real and virtual
I really hate "parodying" or "deconstructing" at this point, not just in vtubers but in media as a whole. Its always cuter and more endearing when things are earnest.

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>>27443956
Holy shit, you are trying so hard that's it's actually giving me second-hand embarrassment.

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>>27444122
now say that without crying because you got exposed for being a tourist

>> No.27444249

>>27443984
I was thinking it's quite probable that vshojoJP will just operate like a Holo or Niji knockoff and not give a shit about the retarded yabs the EN shojos do. If anything they'll just try to be their own thing and try to make vshojo the "good" company like it somehow has a reputation for in Japan, when that really comes from the Japanese not knowing english at fucking all and being relentlessly shilled/marketed to by vshojo management. The market in Japan won't tolerate them doing what the EN ones do and it's already becoming clear that there is mutual friction with the angel's twitter getting banned (probably from mass reports from anti-loli vshojo fans) and 5ch is now just becoming aware that vshojos do things like watch pirated anime etc which are extreme yabs in Japan (despite being harmless to us).

To say nothing of, I wonder what they'll do when they find out about Nyanners, Vei etc and then realize Kson is gonna be coworkers with those people. If Japan wisens up as to what Vshojo actually fucking is (and isn't) then if anything it'd hurt kson's reputation and it'll be a relic. Japan is able to actually man up and say "no fuck off" to bad practices hence Sony's efforts are totally fucking nulled by them so far.

>> No.27444278

>>27431018
Based, thats why i like Hololive because they act like professionals. Vshojo is like a fan corpo but makes all wrong and only have 1 girl making still posible the corpo going further (ironmouse and now Kson)

>> No.27444349

>>27444249
>The market in Japan won't tolerate them doing what the EN ones do
Veibei got popular in Japan before even joining Vshojo. Obviously there is a market for those types in Japan.

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>>27444241
>tourist! tourist!
Is that what everyone has been calling you since you dropped by this board after you heard on Twitter about the ebil unicorns on /vt/?

>> No.27444395

>>27431810
>What's the boyfriend rate at
120% because of Froot. She offsets Nyanners getting dumped and Zen being an undateable hairy fat troon. The others I can believe are capable of normal monogamous relationships, though Mose's only counts for half of a boyfriend because of her limitations.

>> No.27444399

>>27443335
I mean, yeah. If you want a mutlated, polsihed corporate "product" and not a human being, Hololive is your best bet.

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>>27444349
*the veibei of several years ago

Current vei, if they actually translated how hard she shits on her fans and how she openly hates her job now etc, I fucking doubt they'd hold the same opinions.

>> No.27444438

>>27444349
And most of the JP audience is leaving her because of being a total talenless whore and shitty person lmao

>> No.27444459

>>27444249
Yeh, i think the branding "Vshojonext/japan" implies a difference. I have seen ksons streams in english and subed jp ones, its like she is 2 different people

>> No.27444465

>>27443405
vtuber is just an anime avatar. That's the only requirement, the rest is irrelevant.

>> No.27444470

>>27437736
That's the best kind of management
/pol/acks would not kneel to the gay mobs and know everything the jews don't like and how to avoid pissing them off too much

/pol/acks would be the most knowledgeable on how to not-yab

>> No.27444473

>>27444409
and also correction, *veibae

>> No.27444506

>>27444122
not an argument

>> No.27444507

>>27444465
>vtuber is just an anime avatar.
Vshitshow fan's hands typed this.

>> No.27444540

>>27444409
Discord screencaps mean nothing. Everyone knows you can change your name/picture to anything.

>> No.27444551

>>27444382
You're still mad that your definition of a vtuber is wrong? Gonna make another thread and tweet about your delusion then get mad no one buys into it?

>> No.27444562

>>27444470
are you actually retarded? /pol/ literally thinks it is based to say the n-word.

>> No.27444620

>>27439069
Shut up nyanners

>> No.27444627

>>27431018
it's actually a good thing to create a company with your friends, no drama.

>> No.27444659

>>27444562
But calling niggers niggers is based

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>>27444551
My definition is right just like it's also right that I did your mom.

>> No.27444730

>>27431018
Women do not deserve to be happy. They were made to serve men and be pleasing to us. That's why Hololive will win in the end

>> No.27444756

>>27444507
not an argument. Please let us hear your definition of what is a vtuber.

>> No.27444798

The "people" who unironically think that having nobody tard wrangle talents is a good thing are dumbshit twittards who have never had a real public presence with money on the line. EVERYBODY that can be remotely considered a celebrity knows how important PR is. This isn't about saying "gross things". Controversies kill sponsorships because the sponsor considers your image a liability to their own brand. The slightest "mistake", however unintentional, can be spun to turn people on you. It is management's job to prevent those types of things from happening and PR's job to damage control and spin things in your favor.

Alternatively, they could have a collab discussing how Taiwan is an independent country and the CCP is currently committing genocide. Maybe show a list of companies currently working with China and suggest viewers boycott them. Freedom of speech. America, fuck yeah. What could possibly go wrong.

>> No.27444811

>>27444756
My definition is Vshojo=ethots, Hololive=true vtubers

>> No.27444835

>>27443984
Holobronnies hate every fanbase though. They think every other fanbase is out to get them, and wish Hololivers were the only vtubers in existence.

They are very intolerant of other cultures, and think that vtuber = virtual idol.

They even constantly bicker among each other.

>> No.27444883

>>27444551
He didn't even give a definition.

>> No.27444911

>>27444756
No because you'll just point to shitty faux vtubers and be like "umm but these vtubers don't do the things you say vtubers are suppose to do..." There's no point trying to educate a retard like you.

>> No.27444918

>>27444811
ok retard. That's not a definition. Describe what characteristics make a vtuber. Why are holos vtubers and why are vshojos not?

>> No.27444933

>>27444835
Holochads are right. Virtual youtubers have to be idols, anything outside of that are just ethots with anime avatars

>> No.27444954

>>27444835
Holobronies hate some, but not all nijis, and its mostly a #'s competition. This is why there are collabs with nijis. Holobronis hate most Vshojos, and they are so few that why spare the hate for one? just hate them all.

>> No.27444956

>>27444798
>muh money
>muh sponsors
As an spectator, I don't give a shit about any of these things.

>> No.27444988

>>27444798
I like how you apply this shit to everyone else but not your own kind. Go wrangle your own clickbaiters if you actually believe in this shit, hypocrite

>> No.27445027

>>27444798
nux taku would have literally killed them if not them sperping out
management nowhere to be seen btw

>> No.27445131

>>27444918
Posting your face on Twitter breaks the whole purpose of being a virtual youtuber and turns Vshojo members into ethots with an anime avatar

>> No.27445220

>>27445131
According to what? Kizuna Ai posted her real self and she's the original vtuber. Hololive isn't the rule book for vtubing.

>> No.27445231

>>27444811
>>27444933
Lmao.
Can you explain to me what's an "idol" then? Is it the singing and dancing? Is that what makes an idol? Or is there something else?

>> No.27445300

>>27445220
kizuna also has been fucking irrelevant for years. mito is the true template in which all modern vtubers are cast.

>> No.27445319

See you in the next bait thread twitroons withe knights, your beloved vshitshow is a circus of e-thots, cope and seethe

>> No.27445335

>>27445131
vshojo isn't the only one posting their real faces without the avatar. Also jap VAs and doujin artists got into vtubing and people already know what the look like. Anonymity stopped being mandatory long before holo became popular, tourist-kun

>> No.27445367

>>27445319
>withe
HoloESL rumao

>> No.27445396

>>27445231
So you can falseflag better? Nah. I'm a literal tourist, and even just a cursory lurking on /jp/ or actually watching streams lets you know what it means.

>> No.27445417

>>27431018
I don't really care about how Vshojo works internally, I will never support them as long as the 2 biggest slag cunts nyanners and vei are apart of the company.

>> No.27445435

>>27445231
Singing and dancing are part of the package, but that's not all. Idols have to respect their fans and shouldn't talk about the thousands of dicks they've sucked, also shouldn't support troons and other Jewish ideologies

>> No.27445463

>>27438590

>a literally porn star
>a tranny
>a chick who fucked around so much she is dying of shit she caught
>a prostitute
>some slut who cheated on her husband

Can someone tell me which is which?

>> No.27445472

>>27445131
Why not? Why does that turn you into a "thot"?

>> No.27445503

>>27445335
A Vshojotroon calling someone a tourist kek

>> No.27445557

>>27434942
cope

>> No.27445570

>>27445396
>I can't actually explain myself

>> No.27445592

>>27445503
holoseethe

>> No.27445620

>>27445570
>I can only meme arrow

>>27445463
Mel (she did BTFO the camwhores), Zen, Mouse (retarded thing to say), Vei, Froot.

>> No.27445633

>>27445463
All me.

>> No.27445637

>>27445472
Because they are VTUBERS, not FLESHTUBERS. Is it difficult to understand this?

>> No.27445653

>>27445435
>Poltard buzzword gibberish
Please explain to me how the Jews are taking control of vtubers. What are their methods and motives? Is Cover a secret white nationalist company?

>> No.27445666

>>27433393
I don't think there has been any case of fair use for let's plays that has been decided or even brought to court. Western companies have sent DMCA over let's plays, the most famous example is Firewatch with Pewdipie

>> No.27445700

>>27445620
At least I can tell you what a vtuber is, retard.

>> No.27445709

>>27445592
Vshojodilate

>> No.27445711

>>27445637
again, this hasn't been the standard since long before your time

>> No.27445728

>>27431018
idk, mang
they seem to be doing fine, they have the biggest en vtubers on twitch and all the girls are making very good money, even the ones that don't stream that much
they must be doing something right

>> No.27445733

just gonna start posting this in every vshojo thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705IIOKCa0M

>> No.27445754

>>27445711
wake me up when the youngest of vtubers show their face and suck dick on stream
(haachama and lap+)

>> No.27445759

>>27445653
Who do you think gave the $11 million to Vshojo?

>> No.27445764

>>27445637
They are still streaming as vtubers, fucking retard
>Oh nyo, muh immersion.

>> No.27445798

>>27445733
jesus fucking chirst lmao

>> No.27445803

>>27445754
Take your meds, and write posts that make sense

>> No.27445842

>>27445754
oh now you're just being silly since no vtuber has done that
but they did show their face and nobody cared long before holotourists invaded with their garbage revisionism

>> No.27445852

>>27445733
>transparency is a good thi—

>> No.27445856

>>27445435
how do i become jewish? it seems like they have control of literally everything, i want in

>> No.27445932

>>27445733
Wow, how much freedom talent

>> No.27445936

>vtubers must be sexually chaste because, because.... They just have to, ok?

>> No.27445990

>>27445852
>>27445932
>>27445798
She didn't do anything wrong though

>> No.27445997

>>27445856
You must kill a thousand children and sacrifice them to Moloch

>> No.27446095

>>27445990
Islamists who stone adulterous bitches have done nothing wrong either

>> No.27446130

>>27445803
>>27445842
>bunch of nijiEN going to expos in secret
>they produce original songs but not an idol
>they make scripted content but still not an idol
no idols in sight just youtube reactors and meta content grinders
vtubing is over
anime avatar streams are here
bazinga

>> No.27446159

>>27438659
Bro, how dumb are you?
You know that, at least in the JP side, most of them joined hololive specifically to be idols. How stupid are you?
They can do what they love, singing and dancing in concerts, without the burdens of being seen. If they are discreet enough, they can live a normal life and have a boyfriend. Compared to real life idols who need to walk on eggshells everywhere they go, they are pretty free to do what they want in their private life.

>> No.27446192
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27446192

>>27445733
>drugs
Oh dear, the Nihon-nikki aren't going to like this one. Someone should make Japanese subtitles for this.

>> No.27446251

>>27446192
should subtitle this one too (peak vshojo humor)
https://streamable.com/zcx5js

>> No.27446272

>>27446192
You keep repeating that and either nobody has subtitled the previous drug jabs or Japanese don't actually give a shit.

>> No.27446335

>>27445472
NTA but in my personal opinion being a vtuber is about playing a role. Yes, people aren't always in perfect character and sometimes real life stories get told. However, those are usually integrated into kayfabe by calling your mother "mama shark" or some such. The point is kayfabe still exists to some degree unless something serious happens and it needs to be dropped temporarily.

Intentionally showing your face in a way that can be linked to the vtuber persona is a massive and irreconcilable breach of kayfabe. To the point where it feels like you care less about the role you play(and the entertainment it brings to your viewers) and more about your own personal popularity. At the very least I want to be able to forget about the real world and watch cute anime girls doing cute things. After all, if I wanted to watch real people stream there are plenty of those to choose from. I won't call people petty names over it, but it does sour the experience to the point I don't want to watch them anymore.

>> No.27446339

>>27446159
Thing is, he probably thinks purely in terms of twitter outrage. R*shia’s termination was a mini GG for the board, as it brought in the unsavory types who did not even know what they were fighting, but still fight it to this day. They cannot comprehend how anyone would elect to be in the idol practice when it supposedly destroyed R*shia and brings fear and repression to all the girls.

>> No.27446396

>>27446272
Kson's fans might give a shit if you tell them "your ex-hololive girl is collabing with people like this fyi"

>> No.27446445

>>27446396
Didn't she collab with someone from the Yakuza?

>> No.27446611

>>27446272
I mean, they don't even know who the fuck she is. Maybe they will if Vshojo gets more popular in JP, although the smart thing to do would probably be keeping the two branches as far away as possible.

>> No.27446653

>>27445733
Don't forget to download this video, fellow junsgang chads

>> No.27446671

>>27446611
im kinda feeling that Kson will be running the jp branch, she is having a Q&A in JP in a few hours

>> No.27446963

>>27445220
Did Kizuna Ai post her face on her channel, twitter or other official Kizuna Ai accounts, or she posted it on her private, personal account?
I'm asking this honestly.

>> No.27448843
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27448843

>all this salt
Get over yourselves fags

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