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>> No.27378397

>1264 replies

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Hololive sites

Nijisanji sites


Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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20k on mumei's stream
all me


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>66,433: Subaru (Hololive)
>64,120: Marine (Hololive)
>62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>58,571: Salome (Nijisanji)
>43,202: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,492: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,571: Ars (Nijisanji)
>28,799: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,988: Ina (Hololive)
>20,406: Shion (Hololive)
>19,326: Korone (Hololive)
>15,695: Uki (Nijisanji)
>15,034: Nerumero (Indie)
>13,910: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,892: Asumi (VSPO)
>13,598: Kobo (Hololive)
>11,738: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,655: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,528: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,332: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,194: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,739: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,737: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>> No.27378466

>There's a reason no vtuber companies fire low performers
Riku's cabaret club...

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>> No.27378480

I think this whole thing can be summed up as “Kson was too ambitious for her own good”
That shit got her in trouble back when she was a corpo vtuber, and it didn’t help her much when she was an independent creator.
I doubt it will get better once she joins Vshojo. In fact, with her controversial introduction to Vshojo, this might give CN antis fuel to harass Kson and her new coworkers.

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1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - Holocure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday Festival

2x: Hololive

1x: Miko, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
120x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>> No.27378583

They weren't vtubers and they were axed because running a virtual brothel was never a good idea in the first place.

>> No.27378586


Wtf bros
This clip was just a summary of the friends she did along the way moving on in life.
I guess she just thought "why not?" and now we're here.

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June superchats
>>27236137 :: Hololive
>>27236180 :: Nijisanji
>>27236227 :: Indie/Other

>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls

>> No.27378591

>this might give CN antis fuel to harass Kson and her new coworkers
that's the best part about her joining

>> No.27378604

I unironically look forward to that if it has the slightest chance of lessening the bugmens focus on FBK.

>> No.27378637

Less chink spam on FBK is good

>> No.27378641

Pretty based of Kson for bringing her anti to VShojo to kill off that shitty company.

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Pre-primetime /news/ update for 03-07-2022
> KSon and new talent Amemiya Nazuna join VShojoJP (https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1543285476949463041).).
> Nijisanji second Mahjong cup ongoing (https://youtu.be/e_-wf_Cj5ZA).).
> Azki's Birthday 3D live will be held today at 9pm JST (https://youtu.be/y3Ed1eCwuOA).). Sora and Suisei are confirmed as guests.

Previous : >>27313220
everything else kinda got drowned, so if there was any other /news/ feel feel to reply with a sauce

>> No.27378656

There are not too many people watching Vshojo in china though?

>> No.27378705

How was their first Mahjong cup's number?

>> No.27378707

data lost bros....

>> No.27378721

Not to mention they'll be streaming on Twitch

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https://youtu.be/jaQs7YAJOp8 Predictions? I think this could be fun, especially considering her poor driving skills. I am biased though as a 35p. I think based on her racing streams this could have good numbers, though Euro Truck has always been essentially a pseudo zatsudan without the excitement of Asetto Corsa.

>> No.27378744

Hey news anon, appreciate it, hope everything's going well for you.

>> No.27378762

>KSon and new talent Amemiya Nazuna join VShojoJP
I feel like we didn't need to report on this, kek

>> No.27378763

>will overlap Azki

>> No.27378766

Friendly reminder that the holobox is also a holocult. People on the inside of Hololive are basically brainwashed through osmosis by their cooperate culture to love idol shit like singing and dancing, yuribaiting is so normalized girls doing it forget that it's supposed to be faked for the viewers and do it for their own entertainment, some of them even end up convinced their parasocial relationships with chat are healthy and normal.

Hololive is a cult.

>> No.27378781

VNuma is dead so unless some anon saved screenshots from back then, those numbers are lost...

>> No.27378814

lol, it's still technically /news/ I guess.

>> No.27378822

Anon... Read properly
Thats the point of antis, they didnt watch them
They just straight harass them
And because kson join corpo then the other member can be new target
They dont need to watch them

>> No.27378824

>Hololive is a cult.
I fucking wish.

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>will overlap AZKi
>when it starts 1 hour before
Anon it'll funnel into AZKi if anything you dumbfuck

>> No.27378838

Yeah so that won't be the problem.
They probably would only harassed her on twitter.

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and I am the Grand Wizard

>> No.27378865

>ending after 1 hour

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>> No.27378890

Don't worry, Lasagna will shill her harder during the last lostbelt as the Grand Saber.
Sorry Artoria cucks

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>> No.27378910

It's Miko, not Pekora you shitter.

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>Holo is a cult
What a surprise~

>> No.27378915

The whole Weibo was aflamed by Kson new anon, te chinks always find a way.

>> No.27379002

She is not Pekora

>> No.27379008

Now that it is over, was Kson joining Vshojo good news?

>> No.27379009

Hey Luxiem managed to snatch a cripple gold again with their classic Karaoke +celebration. Well done well done!

>> No.27379028

Behead all non-holos.

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>> No.27379051

Good news for who?

>> No.27379058

It was neutral news.

>> No.27379061

Fuxking Nijicult

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>> No.27379073

winning today, bout to execute Vox tommorrow

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>> No.27379105

Not really. It just shows that she couldn't cut it as an indie. Vshoujo doesn't gain much and neither does Kson. Weirdly, barely anything has changed at all, except maybe Kson drawing Chinese schizos with her

>> No.27379120

Remains to be seen, i fail to see how hiring a chuuba that is known for her EOP appeal and being the antithesis for japanese chuubas will help with expanding into JP.

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June medians

>>27209392 :: Median, Top 50
>>27211013 :: Median, 1k plus
>>27211763 :: Median, Full
>>27212290 :: Median, International

>>27213620 :: True Average, full
>>27214207 :: True Average, international
>>27215004 :: True Average, per branch
>>27215211 :: True Average, per company

>> No.27379138

i wish i can sacrifice young lamb on the top of hill and when authorities ask, i will answer proudly

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Wait Flare had a collab song with KOTOKO?

>> No.27379154

I fucking wish it was true.

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Yes, and?

>> No.27379186

old friend from M3

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I will hex you, anon

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>idolfaggotry spreading by osmosis
>yuribaiting and yuri behavior in general is normalized amongst the talents to the point of doing it offstream just for fun
>talents become entangled in parasocial relationships with their fans
Uh... where's the "GOTCHA!"? Am I supposed to be unhappy? This is the ideal. I wish Hololive could reach this level in full.

>> No.27379223

I can see chink antis digging up Nyanners old tweet about pedophelia, or Vei's opinion about the gays.

>> No.27379241

Kson need a box to have good number (like when she was still in hololive).
So join Vshojo is a good thing for her.

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Holokeks status?

>> No.27379273

Does VShojo even have a box?

>> No.27379300

Anon, stop exposing my account

>> No.27379308

So good brotha
We shall behead voc today

>> No.27379311

Box of condoms?

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>> No.27379337

Not at all, since they are pretty independent from each other, there is no box

>> No.27379349

kson and mike are problematic vtubers, there are dramas waiting for them, not only for those two but for the whole agency now.

>> No.27379369

yes they have, even bigger than niji i said

>> No.27379380

i love that one of the points of the post is that people can't love idolshit unironically

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Oh this song hit 5M, didn't see anyone talking about it.

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This is gonna be a busy week bro, because WE KEEP ON WINNING

>> No.27379436

I mean even NijiEN could get Vox the little box

>> No.27379465

It is though. Somehow it convinced Mori idols were good, it made Kson like idols too.

Just imagine hanging out with Kiara for months on end for work purposes until her personality infects you and suddenly you think maybe it's not weird at all to grope and cuddle all night with your same sex friend, who might actually be gay- that's what really happened with Ina during their offcollab.

This shit transcends company branches

>> No.27379470

Busy talking about real subjects anon, enjoy your reclining streamer's celebration

>> No.27379485

It's weak but it is there. Stronger than the niji box even, even if lost of it is because they have far fewer members

>> No.27379493

Music Media-Mix Market
event like comiket but for utaite and doujin music circle

>> No.27379500

Nijicult's mind typed those things.

>> No.27379516

Bad news for the Tatsunoko that were hoping for some sort of Coco comeback (even in minor form).
I doubt Cover is going to be particularly open to allowing the MANAGER of a RIVAL COMPANY to come back as Coco, so while she's not NG to talk about, I expect the chances of any sort of cameo comeback for a big event to drop from 0.01% to completely zero.

>> No.27379518

I think the concept of a box is just mostly for Holo though, I don't think there is any other chuba group there which has it the way that Holo does

>> No.27379525

Not really. There is still a big risk with what kson considers freedom and what vshojo fans consider freedom are very different

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>> No.27379557

Nijishills can't comprehend that people actually likes hololive for what it is advertised as.

>> No.27379595

The fuck are indos even larping about?

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>> No.27379626

>What do you mean with "i have to suck dick to take a break"?

>> No.27379637

Fuck man, I don't know if I should hate Kson for it.

>> No.27379639

I don’t k ow anything about the nyanners tweet but honestly the Veibae gay take might legitimately make the current vshojo fans go against her. Unless they are too deep in the always believe women stuff

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Kobo best song of the week

>> No.27379681

That one guy was right, so easy to get many (You)s with cheapass bait here.
I guess it helps that not much is going on and people are bored enough to bite.

>> No.27379689

holy shit a triangle stream on this day

>> No.27379706

they share a portion of the global twitchbox
not in japan of course, kson needs to seek jun and shaka if she wants to build something there

>> No.27379708

Accept that this is just the way the world works, that management is ass but also exists for a reason, and that sometimes, the rose-tinted glasses are just that.

>> No.27379709

>allowing the MANAGER of a RIVAL COMPANY to come back as Coco
Oh shit you are right

>> No.27379719

Nyanners was full-on pedobait in the past, when she was underage anon.

>> No.27379732

Anon, if 4chan has failed to cancel her, what makes you think the chinks, who by the way still think that talking about the texas successionist movement will trigger Americans, would have any better success?

>> No.27379735

To be fair, it was very good bait and everyone agreed to it.

>> No.27379743

> Hololive making people love cuddles and comfying up with a friend without going into faggot territory
I fail to see how this is bad.

>> No.27379769

hey i notice holo giving 1 month vacation for their talent, last month is pekor and sui, now Lamy.
is this one of the covers' ways to flatten their audience and enlarge their box?

>> No.27379783

Not much going on right now anon so might as well.

>> No.27379793

Between 4chan and chink antis, chink antis have a better track record of ruining people.

>> No.27379796

yeah, i don't know what they're complaining about

>> No.27379812

If the chinks want to make a mess. They should spam Roe v. Wade crap. The Vshojo girls won't be able to resist.

>> No.27379824

Yeah but I doubt the vshojo Twitter type audience will blame a girl for being jail bait.

>> No.27379833

it's strengthening the box, every low tier/mid tier can incline when toptiers take breaks

>> No.27379834

That isn't cheap bait though, it's actually good bait, doubly so because it has the same energy of the "elite strike force of hlg" thing which makes for extremely exploitable shitposts

>> No.27379848

Yuribaiting is cancer

>> No.27379852

the only reason why mori "likes" idols is because she knows she can make money, nothing more

>> No.27379881

No, it's one of those mandated vacation for people in Japan. They need to take it or face penalties from the government.

>> No.27379882

Not by socially engineering the left woke to go into a rage, no.

>> No.27379914

Better than homobaiting

>> No.27379920

IRyS was supposed to make only short streams because of her voice.
She's been streaming for like 5 hours.
This girl really loves streaming.

>> No.27379924

Of course nijisis, can't wait to suck Vox cock again.

>> No.27379934

>work for japanese
>never heard of it
source? so i can ask my vacation

>> No.27379969

Japan's Labour laws mandates a certain amount of leave days for every employee, and if they don't take them that's alot of paperwork that needs to be filed and you risk an investigation by the labour council to make sure you aren't forcing them to work via social conditioning and stuff. It's generally easier for everyone involved to take those leave days

>> No.27379987

two openly bi
one openly les
one in the closet
two are likely straight
the rest kinda ambiguous or CGDCT fans

>> No.27380017

Vsinger btw

>> No.27380041

what if one of them is actually gay anon, have you ever thought about that

>> No.27380044

This. Mori still clearly hates idols since it’s pretty much the opposite of her wigger rapper dream

>> No.27380086

spouting nonsense or you got it from soranews24, really need to know this... i want that mandated vacation

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My shit post guns are ready captain

>> No.27380102

being actually gay with all your coworkers baiting must be suffering

>> No.27380149

You're clearly not. Look at that filename jezas

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>> No.27380175

forced vacation that i can get is only 1 week in a year, never 1 full month

>> No.27380206

I mean at this point it's going to be hard for her to ever say she doesn't like idols when she has friends in her company who want to be idols.

Mori is a dumbass about how she handles her fans and fucks up basic social stuff often, but she does prioritize her friendships to the point of letting it dictate her own feelings sometimes, she's seemingly pretty easy to influence

>> No.27380222

? She's released about 20 songs? And has dozens of karaokes? What part od that is not vSinger enough for you?

>> No.27380234
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She reads every superchat after every stream. Probably why she gets so many of them. If she streamed more often she would easily top the HoloEN superchat charts. Today was another big superchat day for her.

>> No.27380257

is she saving up for a new model?

>> No.27380311

you will never get your 1 month vacation, unless you become a hololive girl

>> No.27380319

I hope she's saving up for a new papa

>> No.27380375

Her music is also gaining traction. Her newest original MV is her best performing one since her debut EP and her latest cover is the best performing song in general on her channel since her debut EP. She is also consistently getting good viewership whenever she streams as well as very solid superchat totals. She is unironically inclining.

>> No.27380387

outdated, Kobo is already at 896K.

>> No.27380399

Go work in Dubai then you'll get a 1 month yearly vacation with paid travel, plus points if you're white

>> No.27380440

I honestly feel that this is fine.
Coco's content was the absolute PEAK of VTubing when it first came out, and the Asacoco series is the stuff of legends.
But the latter half of her stuff was quite obviously not as inspired (could have been due to management fuckery, I admit).
So the fact that she had that final month of insane collabs, celebrations, new outfit and all sorts of fun leading up to the amazing event that was her graduation... It was honestly a cathartic ending, in a way.

Hololive has come far afterwards, but her slight touch of American mentality (not overworking yourself, taking breaks in the short term for long term health etc.) has seeped into the way the talents handle themselves on stream, as well as the hololive audience as a whole.
Which is well balanced by the Japanese side of it (not bringing /pol/shit or talking about private offstream stuff on stream).
Both parts make a great source of simple entertainment that you can enjoy with very little drama involved.

>> No.27380456

extra bad for SEA and indian/paki though
they will confiscate your passport until you're done working. no vacation.

>> No.27380525

Don't know if this was posted but they dropped a new song on the Kizuna Ai channel. It's her new "Vocaloid". The numbers are whatever so far but the "vocaloid" sounds incredible.


This was done by sasakure. UK, a veteran Vocaloid producer. I wonder how many big names in the vocaloid field are going to work with Ai's vocaloid.

>> No.27380569

As far as I can tell without more detail on what they actually are trying to do it seems to be bad news for everyone involved. Kson lied to her fans and loses her 'stick it to the man' image and her indie cred, vshojo gains the attention of bugmen and talent that will only help them overall if they take over the internal structure and whip the company and current talents into something other than losers and stupid bitches.

>> No.27380593

>Karaoke, midnight
Fuck off anon, the man above still has a shitty voice

>> No.27380619

Is it possible for kobo to reach 900k after her unarchived karaoke tonight?

>> No.27380640

>Fuck off anon, the man above still has a shitty voice

>> No.27380654

It's also down from his previous karaoke (expected).

>> No.27380655

Is she going to sing Indo song?

>> No.27380673

I mean, there have been plenty of collabs between JPs and ENs even after she left.
PekoMoona for example, is still going strong. Ame collabs a bunch with RBK and several others.
Gura collabed a lot with Shion.
Mori collabs with many JPs all the time on her English class.

The bridge built by Coco is still standing strong. It hasn't really gone anywhere.

>> No.27380707

Connor is right, holobox is the absolute power for every holo talent

>> No.27380738

plus points if you're poor, uneducated and a school drop out looking for an opportunity in life and get scammed by your fellow countrymen and panicking looking for work during your limited "visit" visa with borrowed money

>> No.27380746

How good of a singer someone is doesnt matter for karaoke Numbers really.
There are probably thousands of 2view indie chuubas that has way better voice than Mysta, but he will get more than even most HoloENs whenever he does unarchived karaokes

>> No.27380777

they don't need the actors anymore but they still have their voices, sounds like Disney

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numberchads...we lots...desuwa made it onto the /vt/ roster...

>> No.27380822

It's almost a certainty unless she gets banned again or something.

>> No.27380831

Those numbers are not inexhaustible. It's a buff that eventually runs out, same as celebration buffs and 'first time' buffs

>> No.27380848

Where the fuck is the official orchestral version of 'Hello Morning' that she sung at the graduation!?
I've been waiting for that for months.

>> No.27380849

how do you get away with using non-vtuber OPs?

>> No.27380872

bet they didn't let them call it ceo of rape
yeah, me

>> No.27380886

Using Vtuber ops is actual shitposting bait, so we don't do it in the interest of at least attempting to avoid starting every thread with shit

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>> No.27380892

Isn't this the exact thing that drove them to ruin?
But this time without even bothering to change the VA

>> No.27380896

This is the sort of shit supervillains do. Ai is truly cursed

>> No.27380918

>seemingly pretty easy to influence
Cdawg 100% groomed her into sex

>> No.27380930

people throw a shitfest when their favorite vtuber isnt in the op so this is the compromise

>> No.27380958

Thread culture to prevent tribalfagging who should be in the OP since this place is the crossroads of /vt/.
some newfag jannies still occasionally delete pics though

>> No.27380960

Let's just say there's at least one holo that has expressed her displeasure with the baiting on stream to some of her co-workers because she doesn't like the fakeness.

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Praying for an Azki miracle tonight

>> No.27380966

I don’t think anyone here cares about TT as much as you do

>> No.27380981

She said only 1 song the rest will be en and jp but soon 1 million celebration would be full indo songs

>> No.27380982

Do you think Lui is able to reverse groom her by talking all about how much she admires her and shit? I think about it a lot.

>> No.27380988

>Hololive has The First Army (JP) and Gura (EN)
>Nijisanji has Salome (JP) and luxiem (EN)
>Vshojo has Kson ,Mike( JP ) and Mouse (EN) ? Maybe ?

>> No.27380989

Imagine if cover did something like this with Rushia's voice.

>> No.27381020

She'll hit 900k today whether she streams or not so yes

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I have the monitor up
Will update accordingly

>> No.27381052

>peko has a monhun totsumachi scheduled

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>> No.27381065

I doubt it, Lui admires Mori for god knows what reason.

>> No.27381073

Summer Voyage starting in 5 minutes

>> No.27381085

if a chuuba who rattles off 100k streams for two weeks straight and almost upends the status quo single handedly can't make it in, then you'd have no nijis at all. /#/ would just be another holo team, and like every other holo team they would just job

>> No.27381098

>How good of a singer someone is doesn't matter for karaoke numbers
You're right but also nijien unarchived milestones celebration are planned, holoen are most of the time guerillas. It can't be helped that nijien are numberfags too while the others aren't no matter how much /#/ want them to be sadly

>> No.27381102

It's amazing some of the crazy shit we have seen in the last couple months. If I told you right before the ID3 debuts that one of them was going to beat Vox to 1 million you would have called me crazy yet here we are.

>> No.27381101

Didn't that ID xQc play HoloCure earlier with 30k viewers? That might encourage his audience to play the game since it's free.

>> No.27381137

Ah, that explains the rather skinny lineup of JP streams starting for the next few hours.

>> No.27381143


>> No.27381170

>At one of the weaker timeslots for ID
>To an audience that (mostly) gets filtered by vtuberse

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>> No.27381183

I find it funny how the roster consists of 95% Holo reference while the rest is just Pomu and Desuwa.

>> No.27381186

/#/ doesn't know what the fuck it wants. If everyone was a numberfag as /#/ is, Vtubing would be terrible and then die out ignobly because everyone who watches streams got sick of it

>> No.27381187

Someone should write that fanfic

>> No.27381188

I don't watch holos

>> No.27381197

Never forget kson was infinitely less creative with content then coco was despite having way more restrictions

>> No.27381205

Most of them use mobile phone, so probably they would get scam if they to find one

>> No.27381237

That's different I guess lol

>> No.27381239

You say that as if /#/ is a single entity

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It is.

>> No.27381321

I notice that Cover usually sends their low to mid-tier members to vtuber music shows, like Aki, Matsu, Fubuki and Mel.

>> No.27381354

What i want is rarely aligned with # but i still post because this is the numberthread.
t. my oshi never wins gold

>> No.27381413

This is the meaning of holobox. The top talent isn't given disproportionate benefits compared to the lower end talent

>> No.27381419

Apologies for being out of line anon, my brain sperged out

>> No.27381452

yes because yagoo is a huge saviorfag, what else is new

>> No.27381491

What, exactly, goes into building a box? Why couldn't Nijisanji build a box like Hololive, even though they clearly tried with NijiEN?

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>> No.27381529

there is also a second event going on today

>> No.27381540

Guess you haven't been on the board long either

>> No.27381548

Slow and steady, not forcefully acquring an audience

>> No.27381559

I'm not clicking on that shit

>> No.27381571

As much as outspoken retards prattle on about "toxic idol culture", most people don't like it when you mix male and female talents. The fanbases are incompatible and you can't create a box when they are mixed.

>> No.27381572

I swear Nene is in every concert

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that was a very cute stream

>> No.27381601

collabs with interconnected talents and similar traits, nijis are way too different to do this. shared fanbases also help.

>> No.27381605

Positivity towards the others and constantly tell your audience to support the other members and make a culture of doing so, it probably helps to actually be fan of the other members and make it apparent to your audience.

>> No.27381621

Is Cover trying to build Nene up as Aqua 2.0?

>> No.27381644

I fucking wish! I'll join on a crusade to rid of nijinigger faggotry from the world!

>> No.27381645

Nijisanji didn't try with NijiEN. Overseas branches in nijisanji tried it. Was a thing on KR, ID and EN. And for most part, its true. EN is its own thing and most of their viewers only care about it

>> No.27381667

Nurturing your audience, exposing them to other talents which they have good relationships with, having members regular interactions with each other, naturally building friendships.

>> No.27381671

Yep never underestimate a hag

>> No.27381699

Not as much as building her up but she is probably taking every offer that they can provide for doing idolstuff.

>> No.27381719

All the jp girls really seem to like her the most

>> No.27381723

saw that

>> No.27381748

a twitter link for you, madame

>> No.27381770

She's there because she pursues it not because Cover tells her to attend. Also probably not since her viewership has been struggling since last year.

>> No.27381808

It's the event that has FubuAyaMio going to it. I didn't realize it was ALSO today, jeezuz.

>> No.27381827

Nene was an idol before joining hololive so this is probably a good fit for her skills

>> No.27381845

>Trust me!

>> No.27381861

If that's what they're trying to do they're certainly failing at it, she can barely break 10k CCV unculled. Imagine continuing to waste your resources on her while EN and ID still go unsupported in 2022.

>> No.27381865

Monster hunter Peko Totsu, and that during only two hours because of AZKi's 3D live, what the hell? Will she come up with a double Livestream as well tonight? She wouldn't pass up the opportunity of getting a funnel from a 3D live...

>> No.27381889

Nene wants to be an idol after failing at it IRL. So she takes as much idol stuff as she thinks she can manage.

>> No.27381893

How much merch did Laplus sell?

>> No.27381903

I can imagine Flare loosely fit that retarded rrat but she is also an unityfag that loves the girls above all else.

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NijiEN went for the 'family' route instead, which is definitely a type of Box.

>> No.27381908

Well, for starters, don't debut twenty people in 12 months and maybe you'll get a stronger box

>> No.27381913

Migo.. Reine..

>> No.27381918

>her slight touch of American mentality (not overworking yourself, taking breaks in the short term for long term health etc.)
Coco was one of the most likely to work herself to death.

>> No.27381919

Can NijiEN make their audience care more about NijiJP? Only a small section of Niji EOP fans talk about the graduation news.
How did Hololive make EOPs care more about HoloJP anyway?

>> No.27381944

its a two day event
this was yesterdays line up

>> No.27381949

Is it even possible for us to numberfag with events like those?

>> No.27381969

The talents tried it, because the niji en talents at least initially take their cues from hololive. The company does not, otherwise they wouldn't do shit like giving their boys a six month anniversary announcement the day before the one year anniversary of their first gen

>> No.27381979

No, not unless one of the sites does an oopsie and somehow leaves their ticket-sales counter on the site for someone to dig out.

>> No.27381984

Oddly enough, Migo, the actual lesbian, doesn't do that much baiting. Sure you could mention her antics with Haachama and Ame but I would argue that those are done in such an absurd and over the top comedic fashion that it can hardly be considered actual baiting.

>> No.27381992

Reine totally fucked Kiara though, so everything is working out great for her

>> No.27382002

Aint watching that souless shit!

>> No.27382006

The answer as always is the box, but i find it very sad that NijieEN has completely failed to instill any respect for their seniors in their fanbases.

>> No.27382027

Nijisanji didn't try to build a box at all. Some of their talents tried, but nijisanji themselves didn't give a shit about it otherwise they wouldn't have debuted 20 people in less than a year

>> No.27382030

It looks like lizard people trying to fake human emotions.

>> No.27382040

So at least share that box with NijiJP livers? They need the growth.
Gura keeps shilling her JP senpais so at least Mysta and Vox should do something similar.

>> No.27382047

Nah, just have to hope the organisers numberfag themselves publicly

>> No.27382050

>>27381667 (me)
Just to add, it also helps that Hololive has a smallish pool of talents.

>> No.27382062

>for god knows what reason
>he doesnt mori kakkoi

>> No.27382089

Comes from the top down, since the company barely respects their talents (and was at one point basically forced to do so BY their talents (please see Nijisanji Resistance for more details), much rougher than how Hololive had it), well.....

>> No.27382098

Are Cover trying to rise gen 5,6 to replace The First Army when all the members graduate in a next few years ?

>> No.27382122

Feels like half of them are basically zoomer Twitchfags. Good luck trying to get them to be loyal to any streamer.

>> No.27382131

Any leak or link?

>> No.27382134

don't know Reine is gay or not, but i can confirm she never in relationship source: befriended with her music circles

>> No.27382146

There is too big of a difference between the fanbases. The reason the JP respect works in HoloEN is that a large portion of the fanbase was already watching JP streams and clips before EN auditions even opened. The HoloEN EOPs are very familiar with every member of HoloJP.

NijiEN, on the other hand, has a fanbase that probably doesn't even know who Mito and Kuzuha are as they certainly weren't introduced through NijiJP.

>> No.27382180

Not as an explicit plan, it's just a natural consequence of time and popularity

>> No.27382197

They took it too far with Niji ID, to the point that most of their jokes are inside jokes that filtered new fans, thus they have no growth at all.

>> No.27382202

Reine and Miko are 100% gay. Kiara might be gay too but she probably leans more towards bi.

>> No.27382205

No one falls for the fake nijibox

>> No.27382213

It's probably more common to find fans of the NijiEN girls that know Holo JP well.

>> No.27382218

dunno, gen5 and 6 have unironically been slow and steady, however, a few of them keep fucking up their momentum

>> No.27382245

I haven't even thought about how radically different their approaches are now when i think about it, holoEN was created because there was a demand for it from people who watched the JP branch and meanwhile in Nijisanji, EN was created in an attempt to bring people to watch the JP branch or Nijisanji at all.

>> No.27382250

I've never said that I love my family in front of my family, even though I do love them.

>> No.27382314

It doesn’t even feel like they even like their seniors most of the time

>> No.27382318

7k listening to Towa sneeze on twitter space lol

>> No.27382367

So, Niji gets both the real gold and cripple gold today? Feels good to be on top again.

>> No.27382377

sorry man, haven't seen any posted yet

>> No.27382379

>meanwhile in Nijisanji, EN was created in an attempt to bring people to watch the JP branch or Nijisanji at all.
No, NijiEN was created for NijiEN to be watched. There's a reason they don't even translate any jp clips since NijiEN became a thing.
Ironically though, more en speaking JP fans came with the introduction of luxiem/noctyx, with female fans that watched the other branches, in comparison with the girls time where most were holo fans

>> No.27382400

Not even. Nijisanji just saw there was a market and then moved to fill that market through acceleration. They couldn't give less of a fuck about actually growing their talents, the point of acceleration is to saturate the market so as to claim every available viewer, starving all competition and maximizing profit through sheer reach

>> No.27382408

Despite being mostly a meme nowadays, the original note blog from which 'nijikiller' came about analyzed the fall of Nijisanji in real time while it was happening (https://note.com/ppoch/n/naae50b29fe8d).).
Spamming waves during that period meant that 'being in Nijisanji' was no longer 'special'. When everyone is Nijisanji, no one is.
The sheer number of people in the group caused cliques to form within the company, just as it would if you put 30 students into a class and asked everyone to get along all of a sudden.

Hololive avoided this problem by their relatively slow and steady approach, introducing small batches at a time. If a classroom was only 10 people and slowly added 5 people every 8 months or so, by the end of two years the entire class would be united as hell.

NijiEN had a chance to resolve this problem. Lazulight was a REALLY good start, and their initial streams were really close to the feeling that many Hololive streams gave at the time, which caused a lot of people starving for EN content to jump ship (only to get burned later).
But Obsydia and Ethyria were waaay too close together, and people cannot acclimitize themselves with so many new people that easily.
This is still the reason many fans of one EN liver sometimes hate other NijiENs. Some hate Nina, some hate Petra, some hate Finana etc. etc.
I'm not even going to touch on how bringing males out 8 fucking months after the first wave was a mistake, or how the branch has plummetted afterwards.

A holo's fanbase will almost never hate on another holo. The worst you'll get is not caring about other holos or not watching other holos.
The 1(one) single time it happened was new and ignorant chumbuds numberfagging on FBK's stream.
Whereas in Nijisanji, this is a pretty constant thing. As evidenced by the most recent thing with Salomefags spamming Melissa's fucking graduation stream.

>> No.27382437

>starving all competition and maximizing profit through sheer reach
the microsoft approach

>> No.27382456

>A holo's fanbase will almost never hate on another holo.
idk about that, councilschizos definitely do exist and there's tons of council hate in /hlgg/

>> No.27382462

But anon.. they have like 100+ senpais..

>> No.27382470

This feels right, I mean NijiEN has collabed with NijiJP members in the past but I get the feeling most of the time the audience doesn't even know who they're even collabing with, so in their eyes they might as well be collabing with an indie, which doesn't affect their viewership very much. Sad thing about that is that I don't think there's any way they could fix that either, too many NijiJP members, hard to know who they should follow that's willing to interact with NijiEN in a more regular basis.

>> No.27382483

>gen 5
Dead in the water
>gen 6
Probably, if they do more EN collabs they'll succeed.

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she's getting good VOD numbers.

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New Hologra. Just like last week, the 3D on the thumbnail looks ridiculously good.

>> No.27382534

What happened here? This looks like company mandated tweet lol.

>> No.27382551

niji doesn't want a box. if they did they wouldn't put all their focus on the main channel. they're set up for high churn rate

>> No.27382580

Yes, but she helped the others quite a bit with it. She also helped with mental stuff, e.g. Watame's Marie Antoinette thing, and Aqua's smash yab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEP-paRxWKA)), and of course Towa's yab.
Kiara has continued saying that to JPs, which is why they are taking more breaks nowadays.

>> No.27382581

>gen 5
>dead in the water
>when Lamy shoot up Marine's holocure into 60k sphere
gokisei schizo never cease to amaze me

>> No.27382600

Nijisanji main channel and brand recognition beats the fickle HoloBox anytime

>> No.27382632

Where is my "The queen of Numbers"...?

>> No.27382638

Anon, an anonymous board will never represent the greater fanbase. To imply otherwise is fucking retarded.

>> No.27382642

Anon...not really. These are like 5-6 hour vods and they're not cracking 100k. But she's thriving immensely for an ID, that is true.

>> No.27382663

Think he means in the more general view, hard to spot fans disliking eachother openly for long periods of time. Gura fans likely disliked Calli after her party incident and openly expressed that when it happened, but after the offCollab ended you'd have a hard time finding any Calli hate anywhere outside /vt/

>> No.27382684

>muh CCV is important
neck yourself

>> No.27382687

Rather than hate, those were just mythfags and some /#/fags seething cause they dont stream

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>Shokotan and Matsuri singing Sorairo Days together

>> No.27382726

Meanwhile, Voxfags are still holding a grudges against Reimu

>> No.27382736

i mean, compared to what iofi and anya get usually, it is quite good.

>> No.27382761

So what exacly was kson's reason to join VSjp? Out of every group why VS? Has she say anything regarding this?

>> No.27382774

I guess Mori might be close, but even then it's more of an exasperation about her retarded antics than anything resembling 'hate'.
And it's (mostly) contained to shitposting /here/.
Deadbeats outside of /here/ are usually the first to call her out when she does dumb shit.

>> No.27382776

Why don’t they invite Ike? He is going to kill the stage with his powerful metal voice.

>> No.27382784

Oh shit its SSS

>> No.27382795

Dude , Marine carried 90% in that stream , the Lamy buff is only 5k

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>> No.27382799

she's a hypocrite and a whore.

>> No.27382802

The fact that they still are 100k despite her spamming streams are pretty impressive.

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He is not a Japanese

>> No.27382812

>A holo fanbase will almost never hate another fanbase
That seems to be becoming less true over time. Calli and sana both have grown a lot of resentment from hololive fans

>> No.27382815

The hell are they doing with 4th gen?

>> No.27382839

I forget which one, but this was during one of their yabs.
And yeah, considering it came about after their 'anime arc' at a 'meeting', very likely corpo pushed.

>> No.27382840

Probably because she was offered a huge cut, they offered to take on the hassle of dealing with merch, and gave her no caveats at all so she basically can continue to act as an indie

>> No.27382843

He is irrelevant

>> No.27382851

so basically another EN only thing infesting the fanbase

>> No.27382855


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she's in the /#/ specific roster

>> No.27382866

don't you mean 'niji main channel viewers will trickle down to the smaller channels'?

>> No.27382872

usual place

>> No.27382878

Not really. The resentment you think is there only exists in your own imagination. Mori schizos live on /vt/ and don't even watch streams

>> No.27382879

Iroha's episode is at 1.5M views, think Chloe will pass that?

>> No.27382880


>> No.27382887

Only Mori

>> No.27382896

A german 35 year old 2view does not count as widespread resentment. You need to get off of vt

>> No.27382898

> Sana line (GK)
kek, appropriate I guess
any links to this?

>> No.27382910

even as a hundred livers debut and another hundred graduate, the main channel will remain

>> No.27382912

gen4 truly fucking died with coco, they have zero unity, even the one thing they have which is the kanata towa unit feels forced

>> No.27382913

Mori for sure, but that is obvious why, Sana on the other hand is getting a lot less hate than what i would expect for ghosting her fanbase for months.

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>What, exactly, goes into building a box
Long lasting, deep, GENUINE positive interaction between the participants.
Tamaki managed to create a box and it’s so wide there are people from all major companies and it even gave birth to sub boxes (like the Roberu-Mea harem).
It’s not hard to understand but people tried to cut corners and create it from short, shallow, fake or negative interactions and that caused them to fall on their faces.
>pic somewhat related

>> No.27382927

got iroha's membership

>> No.27382933

Ohhhh and as a strong safety at that, which has a double meaning for her specifically. Neat choice!

>> No.27382944

Considering she streams so much and for so long there's no chance to do vod reps it seems pretty good.

>> No.27382943

>A holo's fanbase will almost never hate on another holo. The worst you'll get is not caring about other holos or not watching other holos.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA this isn't true at all. Even in HoloEN there's been fans hating on kiara, mori and gura alone since 2020

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>Sana on the other hand is getting a lot less hate than what i would expect for ghosting her fanbase for months

>> No.27382956

you don't watch streams

>> No.27382967

>when Lamy shoot up Marine's holocure into 60k sphere
why so delusional? marine would've still gotten it by herself
also the ccv actually went down a bit when she joined it so she's more of a debuff

>> No.27382970

Probably going to be a player-manager like Wayne Rooney at Derby County. I assume she basically dictated her own terms because VShojo gets a lot more out of it than she does out of them. Although if the other girl really is Mikeneko, maybe she was just a saviorfag and just wanted to give her a real manager and a support system

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>> No.27382989

oh its paywalled?

>> No.27382998

at least ayame appears on the main channel

>> No.27383022

Retard, no one's fucking talking about /vt/.

>> No.27383023

If Kson can’t even manage her indie career, how does anyone expect her to manage a team of vtubers?

>> No.27383025

Kson is going to elevate Vshojo to new heights. They'll be bigger than that korean idol group by the end of the year and they have a good shot at beating cover after that.

>> No.27383030

I think that's something that goes under appreciated. If you're a powerhouse streamer and you can still maintain good numbers/engagement you're going to have more viewers than things like CCV would suggest.

>> No.27383031

Only corpo that lets the talents do whatever the fuck they want.
She will mold the JP branch to her tastes and build a harem.

>> No.27383035

Ayame at least has the excuse of actually putting out a cover every now and then combined with her previous work makes it look like she actually has done something and she also has the other members doting and praising her, Sana felt like she just debuted to her genmates when she came back.

>> No.27383037

kek, should have stopped at Mori

>> No.27383038

You're being delusional.
There's a reason why Holos don't need to play pretend "family" intentionally leaking discord chats to show everyone how close they are with each other. All the good things you can say about the Holos came from the fans themselves unlike this shit here >>27381905

>> No.27383043

yes, i watch streams and im in the fanbase. there's been those on twitter, reddit, youtube and discords for years. just because you see some hugbox out there doesn't mean ppl dont do that. outside of here you also find many nijisanji hugbox but in the same way you can find hate

>> No.27383047

Sana hate where motherfucker?

>> No.27383054
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You might need to get out of this board more

>> No.27383057

Why can't we have masked kino? Chloe forma del masca is iconic, Chloe forma del puta isn't

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>> No.27383068

Are Nijisanji fans so used to infighting and fairness that the thought of developing genuine friendship somehow escaped them?

>> No.27383074

>A holo's fanbase will almost never hate on another holo
Plenty of OG hololive fans in Japan resent gen 5 for not contributing anything to hololive and only leeching, if you check 5ch you'll regularly see people wishing that gen 5 could've been more like Myth and brought new fans into the holosphere.

>> No.27383077

ill spoonfeed just this once but in the future, look back in the archives for mikoboat. you dont want the hlgg link but the other one

>> No.27383080

>Gen 4 : dead
>Gen 5 : dead
>Gen 6 : Laplus ,Chloe and Koyori but they only get high numbers in concert
Cover , you have to do something

>> No.27383081

Im not talking about vt, retard. im taking about social media in general. just because most keep it by themselves dont mean they dont shit on others out there. it happened all the time and its normal to happen, you wont like anyone and humans act like that

>> No.27383086

see >>27383054
It's mostly just /here/ that has the schizos

>> No.27383101

>than that korean idol group
It would help make your post look less fake and retarded if you used their name.
As it is it is clearly one of those “I don’t even need to know what they’re talking about, look how I can make them seethe” shitposts from the screenshot

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This hologra is full of masked kino.

>> No.27383136

Most don't care that much about gen unity for content. 1-4 don't really give a fuck, 5 is getting there, and 6 is only a matter of time.

>> No.27383147

usual site
looks like they're still setting it up
>the owner is Susan
it's fucking over

>> No.27383148

>Twitter is real life
Brainlet take, will cause you a lot of suffering in your life if you really believe it

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>if you check 5ch

>> No.27383169

If NijiEN is a family, is there a reason why Nina keeps publicly shitting on Fianna and Pomu?

>> No.27383176

They didn't have unity even when coco was around.

>> No.27383181

Do you remember how they responded when the discord leak was confirmed to be real?
The absolute first thing they did was expect everyone else to have a yet to be unveiled #vent-channel that seethes about the competition.

>> No.27383186

Anon, for gods sake, you have to believe in utopia to think that holos arent hated and disliked out there as well by other fans. This literally happens in all industries but somehow it disappears with vtubing? thats not how human beings works.

>> No.27383187

Example A
Council Schizo, who doesn't watch streams, doesn't even watch clips, just hangs out her all day and lies for no real reason than because their hobby is being annoying

This is not real fanbase infighting, this is some dumbass pretending to be retarded

>> No.27383188

Mori hate is mostly here, but yeah. She's the closest to being hated by holo fanbase.
Sana isn't hated. She just tends to be forgotten.

>> No.27383200

The ingredients for a box are...well, they need to STEW for a LONG TIME (relative, for streaming its probably several months, which in the real world is nothing, but given how quickly things can move when it comes to streaming, that's basically forever for some).
You need people like Fubuki and Sora, who can set direction and unify fans, coordinators like Mio, and actual passion, both from the fans AND the streamers, over prolonged periods of time.
It's not easy, and anyone looking to try and shortcut the process will find themselves on unstable ground and easily falter.

>> No.27383205

Gen 4 never has unity lmao.

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>5ch said

>> No.27383224

So, does Holo have anything on hte schedule that could even hope to threaten Niji's gold today?

>> No.27383228

social media is the only place where you can see reactions from fans, and those range from positive and negative. thats what im talking about but somehow, you all believe on a utopia

>> No.27383233

They are an abusive family.

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Man this is surreal...

>> No.27383246

Someone's been spending TOO MUCH GODDAMN TIME on 4chan (both /hlg/ and /here/ from the sounds of it). At most, there are people in Mori's fanbase who are disappointed at her retardation, but most of the schizo-shit is a /here/ phenomenon.

>> No.27383250

Are you retarded, anon?

>> No.27383254

No, we just know a schizo when we see them. You don't watch streams.

>> No.27383270

You are correct but are they hated by other fans in a significant fashion?
Take Hajime and Gundou from Nijisanji: they’re genuinely hated by the fandom and the defense when the later fuck up was
>It’s Gundou, that’s a known fuck up ans we hate her too

I could give you Mori that maybe (big maybe) people got tired of her shit but even then it’s a stretch

>> No.27383281

Ah that link was down for a while so I wondered if they shifted it elsewhere, thanks.

>> No.27383283

Kind of ironic because kson was the one who caused all the chink spam on fubuki abecause they forgot why they were spamming her in the first place

>> No.27383284

I'm literally not citing any of that from here but from twitter and youtube. less on reddit where there's moderators controlling hugbox, but on more free spaces

>> No.27383290

Wait so gen 5 is now a failure

>> No.27383291

>HoloEN totally shittalks their competition the same way NijiEN does guys!
My favorite cope. Bitch, they weren't the ones who got caught with a full-on fucking VENT channel.

>> No.27383298

Vox, Mysta, Salome and Kuzuha will form the unity backbone of Nijbox, just you wait. They are Nijisanji 1st Regiment

>> No.27383319

I love you anon

>> No.27383320

I don't need to watch streams because im talking about fans, not the vtubers.

>> No.27383321

Remember when they believed Salami would take all the golds?

>> No.27383335

We got several discord leaks from hololive after that accident. There is nothing that indicates that they also have a vent channel.

>> No.27383340

Anon, 90% of the time that shit has leaked straight outta /vt/, with how its phrased and what gets posted. Of course there's some shit that organically comes from those places, but this place is a fetid pool of garbage that bubbles over to other places more often than not when it comes to that sort of thing.

>> No.27383347

>the biggest and most reliable source of Japanese vtubing opinion is not trustworthy because I don't agree with them
ok retard

>> No.27383363

Its such an out of touch statement because most of HoloEN doesn't even think about the competition, and the ones that would be likely to be competitive catty bitches...are the ones trying to collab with them the most

>> No.27383375

LMAO. Someone actually fell for the propaganda. 90% of what I post here were negative even to some vtubers I actually like. You need to go outside more, bro.

>> No.27383384

The question is, what is /vt/ even good for?

>> No.27383387

box this, box that. It's always the same argument but what you fags don't understand is that since day 1, Nijisanji never tried to form any of that. It never has been the direction of the agency and at best you'll have overseas branches being like that with their own fanbases, like NijiEN is currently

>> No.27383389

>He literally fucking admits he doesn't watch streams

>> No.27383396

ok redditor

>> No.27383418

i think part of why the hololive box is so strong is that the 2020 yabs during their huge incline were so jarring

with aloe being harassed by nijis into an early graduation and then it looking like the very same thing could happen to coco just months later, both the fans and the talents naturally circled the wagons and held on for dear life.

Then, you have a huge influx of new fans coming in from Myth's explosive success. This lets Cover make the bold move to abandon China and save Hololive and also shows all these new fans that Cover and Hololive band together even at great cost. That, I think, cemented the culture and propagates forward even now.

>> No.27383419

these have been great, at least the ones with holox members

>> No.27383422

She's the bitchy wine aunt of the family who wants to crush the spirits of those that remind her of when she wasn't useless

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>> No.27383458

I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

>> No.27383480

Dysfunctional family is still a family

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Lamy doxx

>> No.27383500

>what you fags don't understand is that since day 1, Nijisanji never tried to form any of that.
Almost everyone that isn't a tourist knows that, slowchama.

>> No.27383502

abandoning china was a mistake. cover cut themselves out of the biggest market in the world because of one attention hungry whore.

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Containing Gura

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>> No.27383550

why are you chinese

>> No.27383554

>social media is the only place where you can see reactions from fans
Again, Twitter is not real life. Again, it will bring you lots of suffering in your life if you believe so.
Twitter is an even bigger group of complete retards, more retards than even 4chan because most of them do not have even the benefit of anonymity and link their real life activities to their social media handles so
>they’re driven by the same hivemind as Reddit
>the consequences for deviating from the orthodoxy of said hivemind will impact their real meatspace selves

I’m not even talking about vtubing fandom anymore but about essentially everything they discuss on social media in general.
It is as if you picked up 4chan and made every post made here linked to their real meat space selves from now on.
The end result would be to amplify the safe opinions, the ones shared by the hive mind while burying any dissent and getting everybody to attack any dissenter and any “acceptable target of the week” at once.

Stop basing your conclusions on social media posts, it’s more retarded than if you based on 4chan posts or 5ch posts or matome posts.

>> No.27383556

nene is so cute

>> No.27383558

A frogposter..

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you never had a bitchy aunt?

>> No.27383565

She's in it for the money and is unapologetic about it. Her collab choices further reinforces that.

>> No.27383571

clan entertainment host
just like akari

>> No.27383578

I'm come here from 2025 and want to tell you guys Cover will kneel to Chink again .

>> No.27383597

Holosummer confirmed

>> No.27383606

No wonder Luxiem fan base is starting to hate her

>> No.27383609

She's a twitch veteran after all

>> No.27383610

don't give me hope

>> No.27383614

In present day China which banned even Marvel without recourse?
Genuine doubt

>> No.27383613

As I said, I'm analyzing the fanbases, not the streams, so why the fuck is that even an argument retard

>> No.27383616

So we've gone from
>a holo's fanbase will hate and shit on another holo
>there fans on twitter and YouTube and some of them like other holos and some don't

>> No.27383625

Frog man
Built for Interspecies sex with human

>> No.27383639

I come here to release stress by collecting (You)s.

>> No.27383643


>> No.27383646

so where the fuck do you expect to see fans talking about the vtubers? via telepathy, anon?

>> No.27383667

frog guy was doing the fortnight dance.

>> No.27383674

on the bench in the park

>> No.27383676


>> No.27383688

Nene has a really fuckable outfit, I've loved dirndls for years
Shame about the personality though

>> No.27383690


>> No.27383693

salom will stream idolmaster

>> No.27383716

It's all niji references lmao

>> No.27383720

This is definitely part of it. Cover was getting mercilessly shit on when Coco and Haachama's 3 week break was announced (3 weeks at the time was HUGE since the chuuba scene was VERY volatile). It took an apology, a salary cut from Yagoo, the ZH spamming, and finally cutting all relations with China to change that impression around.

Also, every fanbase takes a while to settle in to a somewhat stable form.
Kiara was hated on /here/ for a long time (thanks to Orcschizo) and Amelia's debut was considered a clusterfuck initially.

This anon (>>27382923) is right, long term positive interaction is how you build the box.

>> No.27383722

>most reliable source

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>> No.27383735

Gacha will bring big number

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>> No.27383752

WHERE bitch?!

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ROFLMAO is on.

>> No.27383768

forgot, its a PR sponsored stream

>> No.27383772

tell me if the male done with their session

>> No.27383799

damn they actually sound and feel like a boyband
idt any of the NijiEN boys could pull this off.

>> No.27383814

The personality makes it better because she'll let you do anything to her

>> No.27383816

The holo part is done. There's no one else worth watch

>> No.27383826

Wherever it is it DEFINITELY won’t be on Twitter.
That’s the absolutely dumbest place to try to figure out what’s going on with everything for the reasons I outlined.

Far from the “bastions of free speech” that social media promised to be back during the “Arab Spring”, people are DEADLY afraid of saying the wrong thing on Twitter and attracting a raving mob hellbent in giving them real life consequences for their words. So the only people talking there are the most absolute retards with the most absolute retarded hive mind approved takes on every subject.
Stop trying to analyze a fandom based on the worst possible people talking about it in the worst possible way. I’m not even exaggerating, you would get a better pulse of their opinion lurking their splits in this very board than on Twitter, a place where you’ll either get the fluffiest most praising comments or the most vitriolic hatred, no middle ground or nuance.

>> No.27383838

Gokkisei schizo, just because you hate gen 5 that doesn't mean the holo fanbase hates gen 5

>> No.27383879

We still have Subaru solo segment.

>> No.27383880

Another Nijigold

>> No.27383901

I-is that former Azki's mane?

>> No.27383918

So explain to me anon, why this can be done for nijisanji but not for hololive? why are nijisanji fans blamed for the retards on social media? if we use your concept, we shouldn't do that to them either

>> No.27383920

Lui and Lap too

>> No.27383922

KEK nice

>> No.27383925

niji already has gold in the bag with the mahjong tournament. holo will be lucky to even make the podium at this rate, especially if we get 2 salome streams in the same day again.

>> No.27383928

>Wherever it is it DEFINITELY won’t be on Twitter.
Maybe for EN but on JP side twitter has been main bastion for otaku interest for years.

>> No.27383947

> analyzing fans
> on social media
> who don't watch streams

>> No.27383956

the salome tweet already has like 4x the engagement of that one. this is going to be a bloodbath.

>> No.27383982

Because you retards do it on reddit, 4chan, 5ch, and discord. It's a universal fact of your existence as a nijifag that you are a beggar and an anti. You have comprehensively proven that the worst stereotypes about you are true, over and over again, regardless of context.

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I need to know her favorite im@s before I can pass judgement

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>> No.27384008

>Sad thing about that is that I don't think there's any way they could fix that either, too many NijiJP members, hard to know who they should follow that's willing to interact with NijiEN in a more regular basis.
That's the easiest part: start by introducing the english speakers in the main branch first. After doing regular collabs, expand them to other accessible members.

The problem is that Nijis nor AnyColor seem that interested in trying that.

>> No.27384035

Why do these falseflagging retards insist on bringing up Salome even after she's reclined?

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speak for yourself.
besides the holos i can't wait to see the sexiest cock around on stage

>> No.27384064

because her numbers are still good?

>> No.27384092

JP twitter has evolved very differently from EN twitter.
To them, Twitter is their DEFACTO social media site. Facebook, reddit, instagram, tumblr, pixiv? All pale in comparison to how many people use Twitter on a daily basis. To the point that how people interact and treat each other on JP twitter is different than how EN twitter gets used.
Also, character limit/language differences mean you can cram much more meaning into 150 characters in Japanese than you can in english.

>> No.27384103

>why are nijisanji fans blamed for the retards on social media
Blamed by who? Please stop letting the disembodied voices in your head cloud your best judgement.
Whoever you think it’s “blaming them” is clearly either the good people in this board, people from similar anonymous forums or the very same social media retards you and I are talking about.

Meanwhile on real life the great majority of the hundreds of thousands of people that catch streamers from either company live don’t give a rats ass about “blaming nijisanji fans”, “hating on this or that streamer”, they just tune in, cheer for their favorites, enjoy their interaction with their mates and carry on.
These people are the fandom, not the social media or anonymous forum retards you’re zooming in.
If those are the voices you’re listening to base your retarded opinion you should consider taking your meds to make them go away

>> No.27384110

She hasn't won gold in like a week and she's still reclining, no one gives a fuck about her anymore

>> No.27384122

Yeah, I think it's honestly a good thing.
Gen 3 and the 'unit style' debuts were done because it gave new talents a support group to lean on in case they didn't get along with their senpais (or just in case there was bullying or whatever).
Nowadays, Holo as a whole is a very warm place, and so holos will interact with every other holo regardless of gen boundaries, so units with good chemistry are naturally being formed without being held back by generation labels.
6th gen is the only current gen with mostly unity, and even for them it's Lui-Chloe, and the rest doing independent stuff. They will eventually be absorbed into the Holobox.

>> No.27384120

That's a large task to undertake, your first hurdle already is you need talents which are proficient in both english and nihonggo, that's setting aside character, chemistry, effort, and willingness.

>> No.27384128

but still good enough

>> No.27384132

is it all m*les line up from now?

>> No.27384133

tracking her recline is interesting and very relevant

>> No.27384156

Oh nice, Lui laughing at her retarded daughter freaking out over imas will be a good time

>> No.27384172

Who gives a fuck about a box? The box is useless if vtubers graduates from their company.
The brand should always be focused because vtubers come and go, but the brand stays.

>> No.27384177

So if I understand correctly
>Japanese all use twitter by default
>Indonesians all use facebook by default
Do Americans/Westerners have a dominant social network?

>> No.27384188

even after "reclining", she still mogs every holo outside of gigabuff shit and events.

>> No.27384197

1k waiting for Tsuna 10 minutes out from her 3rd apex stream. She will not be the game changer some people said for vpso numbers but she will match Nose or slot in right behind her. She might be their new Ace but not much bigger numbers than vpso have been getting anyway lately.

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TikTok for zoomers, Facebook for boomers, Twitter for millennials.
GenXers stayed out of the hamster ball for the most part

>> No.27384275

to prevent tribalfag but sometime jannies delete the op for some reason

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Probably twitter and maybe reddit, but that is doubtful.

>> No.27384285

Need to wait for some proper apex events and tournaments first to see but overall yeah.

>> No.27384293

oh wait, im a dumbass and forgot you can rewind youtube videos even if they're live
matsuri is cute

>> No.27384302

For the record Ema is ahead of Nose alternating with her.
I say Tsuna will outrank both and be closer to 8k than to 5k in her median

>> No.27384321

I love kuku and izuru but theres somthing really ironic about them being in a numbers thread

>> No.27384338

So who are the top contenders for gold tonight?

>> No.27384353

wow what shameless cunt

>> No.27384373

Only niji tournament

>> No.27384380

Anon im not a nijifag, i said "them" for a reason

>> No.27384395

niji mahjong or salome im@s. holo is stuck competing for bronze today. they won't even get cripple gold either thanks to luca gatekeeping them.

>> No.27384415

Trying to understand what Peko think is futile. Sometime she just feel like doing something different
Totsu stream is pretty rare from her

>> No.27384424

Uh, this kind of goes against the concept proposed by the other anon that you shouldn't look at social media to judge, so all of your examples aren't worth..

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Gold is essentially decided, 70k for the mahjong thing.

One funny thing is that that number is just high enough to make an eventual AZKi surprise a kneel-worthy miracle (her highest stream to date is under 40k) but, at the same time it is modest enough said miracle is not completely impossible, keeping the horse race alive until the stream starts
>and the initial numbers confirms it won’t be passing 70k

>> No.27384433

>Seriously thinking Salome is a gold contender
What the fuck is wrong with your brains?

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>> No.27384464

Shut the fuck up, NIJINIGGER

>> No.27384479

NijiEN does collab with Niji JP almost every month. It's mostly a language barrier thing at this point, rarely any eops try JP vtubers. Only ones who still try jp vtubers are either those who know jp or eops from clips. most fans just watch en vtubers at this point.

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checked his subreddit stats and this guy was a lost cause from the start. i guess this is your average casual fan though

>> No.27384526

Anon im talking normally to you, i just want to understand why my examples arent accepted but nijifags are accepted. Both are based on social media experiences.

>> No.27384539

Salome can't reach Niji event

>> No.27384548

Anon, stop letting disembodied voices to cloud your judgement. That goes for what people say in this place or is “true identity” social media.

Out of the 70k people that watched >>27384427 it it’s possible that some 700, 1000 had a extreme opinion one way or another and voiced it in those places at one time.
The other 69k tuned in, IF MUCH left a comment on the live stream or VOD and carried on.

If you’re basing your opinion on the 1% of the voices you are a legit schizo and is reacting to voices that aren’t even there and should take your meds.
At least people posting here are aware they’re retards, you’re proving to be dumber than them

>> No.27384552

>Trash taste
I blame Mori for his existence.

>> No.27384577

>nijjers are alphabet commies
that's honestly not a surprise.

>> No.27384596

It works on the holo side that there are many clips translating JP and EN streams, and JP/EN members do watch clips to catch up on each others activity and even talk about it on stream.

>> No.27384602

Oh, that's gonna be tough for AZKi to beat. 60k would've been possible IMO, but 70k is.....well, a bit much.

>> No.27384617

Nah, huge overlap between anytubers and the vtuber audience going back to the days they were not spineless corporate mouthpieces.

>> No.27384655

Anon, that's my own question. I'm asking this because if we use your reasoning, we can't say anything about niji fans because the majority of them are just watching streams. After all, even on the small with idk, nijen, you still will have 1k dedicated fans.

>> No.27384661

>60k would've been possible IMO, but 70k is.....well, a bit much.
That’s the nature of the horse race, AZKi bearing 70k would be a new “Miracle on Ice” moment, those are the ones that make the competition fun, not predetermined winner from the get go

>> No.27384668

I mean it work somewhat but so far they all just stuck somewhere in the middle. Losing the First Army wouldn't be THAT devastating for Cover thanks to the box but it would be really hard for them to shill a newbie Holo to that height again

>> No.27384670

Bummer. I was looking forward to Azki lewds.

>> No.27384710

I am still quite impressed with Azki number. Even though she only joined Hololive recently, her number is already slowly climbing up to 2-3k
It will only keep increasing when she do more with other Holos

>> No.27384727

Yes, it doesn't work in the same way because of niji jp clips not being as big anymore either. But, much of eop holofags also dont watch streams for jp most of the time. and the ones who do mostly only watch events. Most hololive watchers in the west since 2021 with more vtubers are holoen.thats their focus

>> No.27384755

>salome im@s
That is not today's nijitard

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Murder !!! , please turn off the mic.

>> No.27384821

AIEEEEE 21k before the poem!
Too bad it's AZKi's 3D live Tonight...

>> No.27384850

>we can't say anything about niji fans
There is no “we” on this place, retard, this place is not *one* person.

I can say whatever I want about Nijisanji fandom, Hololive fandom, NijiEN fandom. It just so happens that I would say it with full knowledge I’m just one more retard with a retarded opinion on an anonymous Taiwanese catgirl appreciation forum.
Others here will have their opinions and maybe be aware they’re retards, maybe be like your retarded self and stay completely oblivious to that fact but it would change that fact.

You can’t possibly either extrapolate the opinion of a collective of retards and attribute to the whole fandom or assume any of them speaking at one time represents all of them.
This place will continue saying whatever you thing they shouldn’t, with many people having the full awareness they’re schizos and retards.
I hope you have this moment of awareness too and stop listening to disembodied voices in the internet and thinking they’re real life

>> No.27384856

it won't beat the niji mahjong tournament, so who cares?

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Just post them yourself lol

>> No.27384898

why is this mahjong isn't over yet?!!

>> No.27384932

depending on the rules, a single mahjong match can last like a fucking hour, with faster rules is like half

>> No.27384934

It’s a tournament, mahjong is not a fast game and there are many teams and brackets to go through

>> No.27384952

She's funneling

>> No.27384976

Oh wait Matsuri just had a solo. The other anon saying all the holos were gone lied

>> No.27384990

it's probably money but idk for how much

>> No.27384991

Wasn't that supposed to be a 100k stream full of bots?

>> No.27385004

>having to call peko to play with her
i wouldn't wish this pressure on anyone

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>anon think there are “rules” preventing him

>> No.27385029

>Pekora MonHun Totsu
I love this numberrabit

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>Me too

>> No.27385055

These random game totsumachis that Pekora does are genius. They box push, saviorfag and farm up her own numbers all at the same time.

>> No.27385057

oh i remember that some kaiji spin-off manga is basically just one long mahjong game.

>> No.27385069

>No shitposts talking about how a fucking 20 person collab tournament has less CCV than Salome's RE 7 gameplay
Wonder why that might be

>> No.27385082

won't help her agains the powerhouse that is niji events though.

>> No.27385089

The shitters at Hololive don't lose anything. Akirose Porka or even Luna font lose anything from joining the totsu.

>> No.27385094

Salomecorns only exist to watch Salome and then switch off

>> No.27385098

I was there during that totsu stream where no one call her for like 30 minutes and everyone was laughing at her just fishing alone. Sora have to come to the rescue
She seem very very unapproachable or intimidating to her kouhais

>> No.27385131

Truth be told “all for one” isn’t that new for Nijisanji, in more than one occasion Kuzuha POV beat the main POV in Niji tournaments.

>> No.27385138

Azki's live, maybe
Abit of a long shot though

>> No.27385142
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society if Pekora's voice permanently broke and she graduated from Hololive

>> No.27385152

apparently 5 people on queue for peko

>> No.27385158

>implying she didn't plan that so viewers had to stay to see how long it would take for her to get the first call

>> No.27385164

She doesn't need to beat event
She know she have a big fanbase that will watch her and that is more than enough

>> No.27385168

dysfunctional family is a thing you know

>> No.27385176

It's true but that's after the Great Glassing incident of 2023 after we nuked beijing a thousand times. It seemed too overkill but what can you do now. They're good chinks now.

>> No.27385207

Niji society maybe

>> No.27385209

Of course its the fucking coyote

>> No.27385210

lol of course koyori is first

>> No.27385226

Pekora plans around numbers and thinks about how to improve them, but probably isn't thinking about our daily horse races.

>> No.27385233

Anon, it’s a comedy skit and something to make a 30 min long stream last for the hours they need to funnel into the primetime event.
Did you miss Haachama doing that same bit on her bday all the way back in 2020, or Kanata doing it in some three different occasions?
In Haachama’s case she even already had a call by Haachama herself prepared to call herself as the punchline before she “put the phone back on the hook” and started accepting the incoming calls.

>> No.27385249

yea, gold not being decided is all but a formality at this point. The likelihood that azki gets 70k+ is slim, her current record is 39931, set in april, Sora isn't that much of a pull, Suisei will help, but I don't see her bumping it by 30k.

>> No.27385269

She wants to maximize numbers
Beating others is probably a bonus

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>> No.27385280

Pekora 42K ez

>15 min

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>> No.27385311

Wow Koyori really is everywhere huh. Isn't she like the only HoloX who made contact with Pekora and survive?

>> No.27385326

We shall see the box's vaunted strength

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I posted the schedule an hour ago anon....

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40k and still inclining

>> No.27385351

I thoughts people hate MonHun?

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>> No.27385364

Pekora saviorfagging her kouhais but at the same time boosting her own numbers. Sasuga numberrabbit.

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>> No.27385374

Lamy and Miko

> joining Pekora MH

>> No.27385380

Stealth collab stream??

>> No.27385381

And building a MonHun arc