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Right now Cover needs to act FAST. Immediately have all talents sign a new contract preventing streaming or joining another company for 6 years minimum. To get everyone to agree, they will get one new outfit of their design. This would instantly stop the bleed.

>> No.27354021

>>27353935
>To get everyone to agree, they will get one new outfit of their design
You know they could get a new outfit on the indies within like three donations

>> No.27354025

two more weeks until exodus

>> No.27354223

>>27354021
>unironically believing this
you have to go back (to reddit)

>> No.27354522

>>27353935
Sir, this is not Anycolor.

>> No.27355270
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>>27353935
>incoming mass exodus to Vshojo

>> No.27356821

>>27353935
Holo intern relying on 4chan for ideas.

>> No.27356891

Meanwhile I am still waiting for the fucking EN3 announcement jesus fucking christ.

>> No.27357341

>>27353935
let the whores out themselves

>> No.27357434

>>27354025
THE EXODUS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>> No.27357471

>>27353935
>Right now Cover needs to act FAST. Immediately have all talents sign a new contract preventing streaming or joining another company for 6 years minimum. To get everyone to agree, they will get one new outfit of their design
This would be good bait if not for the fact that this level of tone-deafness is ABSOLUTELY up Cover management's alley.

>> No.27357644

Yeah, because VShojo offers the same huge roster of the biggest VTubers on Earth, the same prestige to its brand, the same gigantic following and the same amount of support. Get real.

>> No.27357880

>>27357644
>prestige
>support
lol
lmao even

>> No.27357908

In Vshojo they can own their model and IP. There isn't really any way Holo can compete with that in the long term. Streaming careers aren't that long and to pour all your time into a character you don't actually own has to be a bit depressing.

>> No.27357909
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27357909

>/vt/
> KEK oh no no Cover is doomed! The exodus is inevitable!

>hololive HQ and talents
>Kaichou joined VShoujo? Good for her. Anyways...

>> No.27358199

>>27353935
What about just treating your talent better? Also take less money from their super chats.

>> No.27358302

>>27353935
If Holo's response isn't immiedately dropping their 30~50% cut of all subs and donations, they lose all but the most risk averse of their talent as soon as their individual contracts allow. These are people with individual managers and financal advisors and so on, who can show them that they are literally giving up up to half their income when they could make a painless switch and bring all that home.

>> No.27358326

>>27357909
you mean
>Coco has to deal with Rushia on her own now? Poor girl

>> No.27358404

>>27353935
Realistically, who are the most likely candidates of flight risk by the end of the year?

>> No.27358480

>>27353935
Tell cover to not redeem their """"""""""""idols""""""""""""""

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>>27353935
>incoming mass exodus to Vshojo

>> No.27358484

>>27353935
>To get everyone to agree, they will get one new outfit of their design.
Ironmouse debuted two models and created an entire vtuber under her (Bubi) in the first quarter of this year, with multiple extra models currently in production and she's toying with the idea of making a model for her sister too, just for fun

TALENT
FREEDOM

>> No.27358509

>>27358404
Now that Rushia is in the company
nobody
There is a reason why none of the talents gave a shit or defended her during her NDA and doxing cover employees yab

>> No.27358522

>>27357880
He's right about those, but Vshojo also provides those, specially since they now have THE BIGGEST female streamer worldwide (Ironlung), Coco and apparently Rushia, they are like Cover but without all the management autism, bet your ass the next HoloJp batch will have way less auditions seeing how every talents talks about burnt out and health issues all the time.

>> No.27358607

When will a big yab come again to see new free agents

>> No.27358622

>>27356891
Council and hope dont have their 3d while holox got theirs fast.
Cover doesnt give a fuck about EN.

>> No.27358626

>>27358404
People who butted heads hard with management in the past. That is Cover's weakest link and has been since the start but EN secondaries never learn of this since they started watching after most of their biggest fuck ups so they defend the company blindly.

>> No.27358658

>>27353935
Vshoujo just fucking killed itself by taking Mikeneko though. Most JP corpos are gonna blacklist their talents from collabing with them because of her and it's inevitable that she'll explode and try and take the company down with her like she has the two previous times she got fired.

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>>27358522
wait he is serious
LOL
LMAO
What do you do when you are caught doxxing the people that auditioned for you? Oh wait you have no lawyers or anything so you have fucking Nyanners lying out of her ass trying to make herself the victim while throwing the people they doxxed under the bus

>> No.27358692

>>27358404
None of the EN contracts have the non-compete. And the current gen and anyone that updated within the last year has a six month quit/three month fired instead of one year/six month versions. And in general, non-compete are actually very hard to even enforce. So really, the risk is everyone, but the ones that go first and show that the company can't actually do anything to force them not to work for somewhere else will break the dam.

>> No.27358705

>>27358509
Because they were afraid to get fired? Nigga put 2 and 2 together, they would find success as an indie but not as near as tehir Hololive personas, now that Coco and Rushia jumped ship they can see how well they do, if they get at least fucking half of the hype for Salami then it's over for Cover, everyone will jump ship as fast as tehy can or fake some controversy to get fired.

>> No.27358706

>>27353935
more idols, less whores

>> No.27358739

>>27353935
whatever rushie leaks pissed the fuck off some holomen
I don't think they want to work with her again ,outside of marin or haachama

>> No.27358745

>>27358706
please

>> No.27358775

>>27357880
I haven't seen a Vshojo brand collab with an instant noodle branch, games(in game character collabs) apparel, PC, SEGA or remotely close

>> No.27358806

honestly it feels inevitable that hololive will start declining. en girls will see how well vshojo girls are eating and want in on it. could easily see irys and ame leaving, it's basically guaranteed given irys' disatisfaction with cover and ame's ties to silvervale

>> No.27358815

>>27358706
It's the other way around though

>> No.27358832

>>27358622
>don't have their 3D.
But they do. They are just holding for HoloFes since they still can't get Japan open for them.

>> No.27358838

>>27358775
All the prestige of Cup Noodle and Famimart

>> No.27358846

>>27358705
You lying twitchnigger. Not even fucking marine who she is close friends with wanted anything to do with her because she knew what kind of retarded menhera she was. She had to deal with her shit for years.

>> No.27358890

>>27358681
Yeah... and it worked fine.... the Vills concert wasn't canned and some gained some Gachikois, nigga people don't care about that shit unless it affects their entertainment, it's fucking sad that some whores can lie and people will go YAS QUEEN but tehre you go, call me when they have to remove a talent because of some of that shit and then we're talking.

>> No.27358905

>>27353935
Imagine if every company does this. Like working at walmart then you leave to target only to get sued. Who cares? Be a better company commie cover corp.

>> No.27358959

>>27353935
there's no "BLEED" you faggot

>> No.27359015

>>27358522
They get burnt out of their own accord (possibly due to high viewer expectations), and in reality they can take breaks any time they want like what Ayame, Sana, and most of EN do.
Oh right, you don't actually watch streams, faggot.

>> No.27359018

>>27353935
Japanese otaku aren't going to watch vshojo shit because that company is full of rude and shameless whores. Any JP vtuber that jumps ship to that shitshow is going to have an EOP chat and hate their career.

>> No.27359033

>>27358806
Even on the outside looking in I can tell IRyS is the red-headed stepchild of HoloEN

>> No.27359041

>>27358692
wait...how do you know..this?...
Hi Mori! How you doin?

>> No.27359048

>>27358890
It worked so fine that Vshojo no longer has anyone auditioning. Everyone bailed.
Absolutely nobody stuck around to join the company, makes sense that a doxnigger company like Vshojo would accept Rushia they're basically made for each other

>> No.27359055

>>27358846
How am I lying? nigga open your eyes, the precious Kyriu ''I will not join another company'' Coco JOINED another company, they can't openly say shit because of their contracts, do you want me to remind you retarded management from Cover made Pekora cry on stream to the point where she asked ''If i can't do that special event what's the point of being Pekora'' ???

>> No.27359071

>>27358806
So this is what cooming constantly watching vshojo does to your brain…

>> No.27359133

>>27358832
It just feels odd having a EN the way it is now. Myth waited forever for 3D but got showered with several outfits at least. Council and Hope on the other hand almost a year in and they got jack shit.

>> No.27359158

How are the japs taking the news? I know there are some JP fans of Vshoujo but I can't imagine the vast majority liking them, considering who the most popular vtubers are there and how they usually react to controversies

>> No.27359160

>>27359048
>t. rejected 2 view

>> No.27359265

>>27359015
>Korone gets terribly ill
>Manager keeps asking her to do stuff for cover
>Korone yells at her manager ''I'M SUPPOSED TO BE RESTING, LEAVE ME ALONE!!''

https://youtu.be/WYgVIBGrkME?t=29

You were saying nigga?

>> No.27359389

JWU, did Kson and Migael Gato seriously joined vshojo? Holy shit

>> No.27359416

>>27359389
Kson yes, Mikeneko unconfirmed but everyone seems convinced

>> No.27359574

>>27359389
There is a trailer where you can clearly hear her voice at the end and if that wasn't enough proof, Kson herself said ''I GUESS YOU KNOW WHO IS ALREADY''

>> No.27359653

>>27358832
Meanwhile holox got 3f already and will get idol outfits on fes.

>> No.27359737

>>27359265
That's it? Just Korone, who's already known to do inhuman marathons and got mad once when she wanted to rest? Okay, okay, you got me.

>> No.27359744

>>27359416
>>27359574
Waking up to this news is pretty fucking surreal. Why are shitposts becoming real?

>> No.27359796

>>27359265
Holy shit, is Korone going to VshojoJP?

>> No.27359849
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>>27353935
>company for 6 years minimum
If I was a Holo and they put that in front of me I'd jump off the company.

>> No.27359877

>>27359737
No anon, this was a major injury non related to streaming, she asked for rest but cover was like LMAO shut up bitch or we fire you.

>> No.27359880

>>27359737
Getting badgered about work when she was on sick "break," and then Miko saying how she knows what it's like. You're on break but you don't actually get to rest.

Hololive works the popular ones as hard as they can

>> No.27360049

>>27353935
at least with this power move by Vshojo cover will get pressured to release EN3 ASAP. we're really in dire need of new members with the dead hours with no stream growing longer by the day.

>> No.27360106

I bet a lot of the Holo girls are getting burnt out and tired. They probably want to stream with a more relaxed schedule and join a company that lets them express their creative freedom
Can't wait to snatch them up. Sorry Hololame, you had your chance but you fucked it up with Coco. Now you can watch as your company falls to pieces as each girl leaves one by one. Wasn't Haachama really good friends with Coco? Wasn't she just in a collab with Ironmouse, who's in Vshojo?
Interesting...

>> No.27360145

>>27353935
Let them go anon if they want to defect to the enemy like my once great coco/kson did then its better to just say goodbye and purge the traitors most of them will be the type that hates idol culture to begin with so do we really need them around to ruin things.

>> No.27360146

>>27359877
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Marine also still working off-stream when her throat was so bad that her voice was unironically at risk?

>> No.27360185

>>27360145
>Enemy
Lol

>> No.27360189

>>27360146
you're absolutely right. cover is treating their employees like literal meat. it's disgusting, but what can you expect from a black company

>> No.27360199

>>27359877
Ayame...

>> No.27360251

>>27353935
All they have to do is lift the collab bans. Maybe decrease the percentage cut.

>> No.27360334

>>27360146
I think so, yeah, wouldn't put it pass the level of Cover's tyranny, so this would be actually good for the Holos if they actually threaten to leave if some major adjustments are not met, desu I would just follow my Holo oshi wherever she goes, I like the Holos but I don't watch them at all.

>> No.27360338

>>27360189
>Zhang Chen invades /vt/ and starts spewing propaganda
At least make it less subtle, if you actually gave a shit about this you'd go for Nijisanji for forcing their talents into prostitution but of course you'd never go against your owners would you now

>> No.27360415

>>27360199
yes, Ayame can get away with everything she wants, we're talking about KORONE goalpost moving-chama

>> No.27360419

>>27358838
Don't diss on cup noodles like that they're amazing

>> No.27360481

>>27360338
ah yes, a typical holobrony deflecting and bringing up nijisanji the moment they realize they're wrong.
your girls are fed up with your shit. they're moving on. it's over
next!

>> No.27360502

>>27360189
Try harder, faggot.

>> No.27360549

>>27360185
Vwhores are the enemy your company and its talent are garbage handing Kson a check she couldn't refuse doesn't change that you absolute retarded nigger

>> No.27360555

>>27360334
they absolutely WILL speak up. given the atrocious state of EN's management, i can easily see 3-4 holoEN members leaving in the next year

>> No.27360611

>>27353935
>support girls
>give them new outfits
>don't fire them for stupid reasons

>> No.27360628

>>27360502
>>27360502
typical holobrony using slurs when they have no arguments
next!

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>>27360555
>they absolutely WILL speak up. given the atrocious state of EN's management, i can easily see 3-4 holoEN members leaving in the next year

>> No.27360667

>>27360334
Yeah, I'm not expecting an exodus from Hololive or anything, nor do I necessarily want one.
But it'd be great if VShojo's presence in Japan puts pressure on Hololive to give their talents more control over their activities.

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Did you think this was a game?

>> No.27360749

>>27360667
Hell, VShojo could be the salvation we all wanted assuming the JP companies step up their game and start actually giving a shit, competition is always good for the consumer (us) and apparently the talents as well.

>> No.27360831

>>27353935
The only thing that can save hololive:
BETTER MANAGEMENT.

>> No.27360951

>>27360831
Actually moving their main offices to the west is what would save them, remember laws in Japan can fuck you over.

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Kuroa06, Canan8181, Rika, Gutara

Come home.

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27361232

Holy shit they're trying so hard it's adorable.

>> No.27361354

I look forward to mikeneko destroying vshitjo from the inside like she tried to do with hololive before her own duplicitous stupidity exposed her.

>> No.27361454

Retarded Japanese business culture loses again

>> No.27361493

>>27358806
Wait a minute, Ame has ties to Silvervale? I dunno about them IRL... Can you elaborateon that, anon?

>> No.27361510

>>27361032
You forget Mikarin who 1000% ready to jump off ship to Vshojo because of chance going full slut (and meet Mikeneko)

>> No.27361583

>>27361232
>Said the same when people told them Kson was gonna join
>Laughed harder when the possibilty of Kson grooming Rushia into Vshojo was brought up
I'll save your post number and laugh hard when it eventually happens, wish i did that for the fags who told me Kson would never join a company HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

>> No.27361618

>>27353935
>Ideas to prevent the incoming mass exodus to Vshojo
do literally nothing

>> No.27361677

>>27353935
That isn't legally enforceable. 2 years is the maximum and that's only for people with highly specialized trade knowledge and proprietary training, within a narrow competitive field in a limited geographical area such as a city.

>> No.27361686

>>27360549
Nope. Keep seething Holonigger. Your opinion on vtubers doesn't matter because you never cared about vtubers in the first place.

>> No.27361713

>>27358404
Gura's room mate is best friends with like 3 members of Vshojo
Ame's room mate is best friends with 1
Haachama has been DMing and collabing with Vshojo, on twitch, did an Ironmouse collab, etc

Those are the big three right now.

>> No.27361731

>>27359055
pekora's problem is that she has never been able to fight for her projects, unlike other members.
Cover is not the best company in the world, but if you think that any holo, or at least their top talets are going to get out for this, you are a retard

>> No.27361818

>>27361713
I wonder if Irys will leave since Cover is doing a bad job at promoting her as a Vsinger. But to me it doesn't matter. Either the talents have more options or Cover realizes they should actually put some effort and stop being so shit.

>> No.27361902

>>27361713
>best friends

>> No.27361903

>>27361713
oh shit, i totally forgot gura was friends with three members of vshojo
so what do we think? next wave for vshojo is EN = gura + ame, jp = haachama and irys (she was just talking about recording being hell and sounds super tired of being in hololive)

>> No.27361913

>>27358404
mori

>> No.27361925

>>27361731
You say that when two of the people in Vshoujo are the former number 1 and number 2 from Hololive.

Cover's already shown that they don't care if you're a top talent or not. Hopefully they realize this is a mistake and start treating their strong talents better.

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>>27353935
>the incoming mass exodus to Vshojo

>> No.27361943

>>27353935
>exodus
why would they do that?

>> No.27361953

>>27353935
>Immediately have all talents sign a new contract preventing streaming or joining another company for 6 years minimum. To get everyone to agree, they will get one new outfit of their design.
Here's how it would actually go:
>talents sign on for new outfit
>still get annoyed with management
>leave Cover
>go to America and join vshojo
>Cover can't do shit because carte blanche non-competes are unenforceable in the US

>> No.27361969

>>27361731
Then let's just wait and see how massive Vshojo will be, how many numbers and 0 retardment from cover, is just matter of time, unironically, ticktock faggot.

>> No.27362007

>>27361731
Pekora offered to pay for her project and management told her no. What's the point of making the talents fight their own managers?

>> No.27362010

>>27361818
she's leaving 100%. she just talked about recording being hell and has been talking with calli, who's the most anti-cover member they have but who's contractually obliged to stay because of the universal deal. bet she's already thinking of a good way to grab some extra SCs before she dips

>> No.27362026

>>27361953
>sign a new contract preventing streaming or joining another company for 6 years minimum
That would actually cause a mass exodus

>> No.27362053

>>27361818
That's Irys fault, she didn't get into EN2 but could get in as a Vsinger, she also said it herself, ''I would prefer to be a regular Vtuber than a Vsinger.''

>> No.27362098

>>27353935
Why would any of the top talent sign that? They have all of the leverage now. Sorry corporate bootlickers, talent is king. Not the company

>> No.27362126

>>27361713
Source: I made it up

>> No.27362158

>>27362007
what was the project?

>> No.27362164

>>27361903
Who are those if you don't mind me asking? I would guess nyanners is one but the other 2?

>> No.27362184

>>27362026
obviously yeah, but the more salient point is that since vshojo is in the US, they can quite literally Commodore Perry any talents under a restrictive Japanese non-compete and the Japs can't do shit about it

It's actually a fantastic way to poach talent that wants to get out of their contract

>> No.27362201

>>27361713
>Gura's room mate is best friends with
lol no retard. Nobody she interacted with back then was considered an actual close friend. Why do you think she dumped HER and went with hololive?

>> No.27362271

>>27361943
permission, imagine your oshi can play any games or sing any songs without having to deal with copyright autism from JP corpo also vshojo don't take a cut like cover does, basically more money.

>> No.27362313

>>27362158
Unknown exactly what it was, but she wanted to do a big event for her fans and management shot it down even though she said she'd pay for it.

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what the fuck was the thought process behind this dogshit idea

>> No.27362350

>>27358739
Marine and Haachama will join next. Followed by Gura and Pekora. It's over Holobros

>> No.27362355

>>27357909
Yea dude I'm sure they're all fine with it; trying to convince her to stay, bawling their eyes out over her leaving to be an indie, just to join another corp full of american whores, all of them are just peachy keen I'm sure.

>> No.27362372

>>27361493
They were streamer friends before she was Ame

>> No.27362377

>>27362010
If she wants to jump ship she should do it in about a month or so, remember that if VshojoJP gets popular then people way more talented than Irys will be applying thus reducing her possibilities, this is a one in a life time offer, she ain't no HoloMyth nor Holofantasy to be desireable at any cost.

>> No.27362425

>>27362313
What the fuck
Why not? What problem could Cover have possibly had with that?

>> No.27362483

>>27353935
we need polish re education chambers for the talents ASAP

>> No.27362517

>>27361913
Sorry anon but good things can never happen

>> No.27362519

>>27362425
Because Cover's stupid. For the talents to even do collabs they have to go through the red tape of both of their talents managers.

>> No.27362542

>>27362377
i bet she's already in talks with them on discord. mark my words, after her 1yr she's going to announce her graduation and vshojojp will suddenly have a new member a few months later

>> No.27362576

>>27362313
hmm so a project where money wasn't the issue, hard to say if it was justified without knowing exactly what it was

>> No.27362590

>people think talents like Ame and Gura has any plans on leaving let alone someone like Pekora
You've never had a job before if you can't tell what people satisfied with their position life sounds like

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>>27361583
N-no please anon, d-don't laugh at me. I'm best friends with four members of VShojo, surely we can come up with a compromise.

>> No.27362610

>>27361925
And what does it matter that they were #1 and #2 on Hololive?

Were they able to maintain that high rank after leaving the company? No, their reach and earnings were declining. Do you really think that joining one of the most hated companies by the public is going to make them the great Vtubers they used to be?
I don't think so.

>> No.27362698

>>27362610
>one of the most hated companies by the public
Imagine thinking this place is the public lel

>> No.27362702

>>27362007
all members have to pay a part of their projects, what did you mean by that?

>> No.27362721

>>27362610
>one of the most hated companies by the public
Anon please leave this board for 5 seconds

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>>27358846
Now that's a fucking lie because Marine was the only gen 3 who actually cried for Rushia, and on top of that she included her in her latest original MV and refused to remove her out of respect. Nigger

>> No.27362759

>>27362576
I remember her saying ''BUT OTHER MEMBERS HAVE DONE IT!! WHY CAN'T I DO IT TOO????''

>> No.27362765

>>27362542
>They gave me this ugly fucking model, I want pay back. Everyone keeps getting new outfits and I have this

>> No.27362789

>>27362702
She specifically wanted to use her superchat money to pay for it, but management said no. So she was frustrated because she was grateful to fans but there was no good way for her to show that.

>> No.27362817

>>27362698
>>27362721
nta but didn't they get a lot of backlash/hate when that whole scam/nux thing happen?

>> No.27362893

>>27362590
>Gura doesn't stream
>Management made Pekora cry on stream
>Ame had her NFTAme thing shutdown by management because Cover wanted to start investing on NFTS untill they became illegal
Anon, I think you should leave where you work at if they treat you this bad and you see it as normal.

>> No.27362900

>>27362053
Vsinger auditions opened first and she was probably shortlisted from the very beginning, she never really had a chance to be in EN2.

>> No.27362912

>>27362759
That makes it even more confusing, wonder what it could have been that made it not possible to do

>> No.27362913

>>27353935
Do nothing
Hololive is due for a cleansing of any whores who remained. I had legitimate hope for Kson but it is clear what she is and there may be others still lurking within.
In the long termVshitshow is unsustainable, it's entire base of coomers and twitterfags will come and go as the novelty wears off, assuming they even manage to avoid the inevitable drama they generate on a daily basis like the rats they are. The coffers of the jews may be deep, but even they are unwilling to pay for things that don't make returns.

>> No.27362936

>>27362893
post your memberships

>> No.27362978

>>27362817
"A lot" is an overstatement, and most of it came from Nuxfags who are retarded as it is

>> No.27363024

>>27360049
Why would Cover need to release an EN gen for a JP branch? If anything, if Cover was going to respond, they would move up the debut of JP7.

>> No.27363057

Fuck Ame is gonna get poached into being like a manager/ creative lead over there isn't she. She's expressed discontent about being pigeonholed as a streamer and wants to do more

>> No.27363059

>>27362893
>Management made Pekora cry on stream
What the fuck

>> No.27363180

>>27363059
Don't forget Mel's stalker also still works at Cover. They've always been a shit company.

>> No.27363206

Holy fucking shit, while doomscrolling this thread I just fucking remembered who Mori actually is IRL, she has good friends in Vshojo and/or heavily tied to it (Hime, Trash Taste Podcast, Ironmouse...)

I can absolutely her jumping ship and due to all other ties Myth has, they can also follow her steps.

It's over Holobros, sorry not sorry bc I think they will be infinitely happier working for Vshojo

>> No.27363226

>>27360189
please undertand america. its called work ethic. It is big in japan and the rest of the world. Please undertstand

>> No.27363275

>>27363206
Mori's roommate has done collabs with Hime's roommate.

>> No.27363295

>>27362817
About as much as hololive and Nijisanji do with their scandals. Don't think the nux thing was as big as firing one of your biggest talents.

>> No.27363313

>>27363180
>Source: Trust me bro

>> No.27363314

>>27363206
please fucking take her, please

>> No.27363337

>>27363206
It's too bad cover sucks so much. They put out a good product but the treat the EN talents like shit

>> No.27363349

>>27363206
The UMC deal may tie her down

>> No.27363414

>>27363206
>I can absolutely her jumping ship and due to all other ties Myth has, they can also follow her steps.
you don't really watch EN do you?

>> No.27363435

>>27363180
Nigga we're shitting on cover here with FACTS, not made out stuff, shut the fuck up and do your research or make a bait thread, fucking twittards.

>> No.27363479

>>27363180
>Source:

>> No.27363490

>>27353935
I think the only ones at risk of switching to Vshojo are Haachama, Matsuri, and Mori. The rest don't really seem that interested in the kind of content Vshojo does (absurdist humor, sex talk, and politics).

>> No.27363579

>>27363206
please, please take mori
they can have her...she belongs to the streets

>> No.27363650

>>27363314
>>27363579
Only if she's packaged with Gura, but fine.

>> No.27363651

You guys really think Mori's graduation is a bad thing? I don't want drug addicts on hololive.

>> No.27363775

>>27363651
If Mori leaves, Gura leaves, Gura unironically sees Mori as an example to follow, Kiara will follow since she already talks with Vshojo and will watch 2 of the major girls walk away, Ina and Ame might walk out too.

>> No.27363788

Is this a roleplay thread or what the hell is going on in here, do people really believe the shit they are writing?

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>>27363650
>Only if she's packaged with Gura, but fine.

>> No.27363925

>>27362893
>Ame had her NFTAme thing shutdown by management because Cover wanted to start investing on NFTS untill they became illegal
This a very good thing as she would of had huge backlash had she gone through with it concidering what happened.

>> No.27363944

>>27363788
Kson and Rushia just joined Vshojo, anything is possible anon, enjoy the ride.

>> No.27364035

>>27363925
Maybe i didn't express myself clear, Ame was actually making fun of how retarded NFTS are, Cover wanted to invest on actual NFTS following Kizuna AI's management so they told Ame to shut up because they would start selling them too

>> No.27364080

>>27362271
if sacrificing a pretty stable job because of permissions is the only reason I'm not convinced in the slightest that there will be a "mass exodus"

>> No.27364094

>>27363775
My thoughts exactly, if Gura leaves, that's it.

>> No.27364101

>>27362978
>>27363295
I don't know I remeber seeing it a lot on twitter. got to the point where people were also posting nyanners having a mental breakdown on her discord or something as well

>> No.27364139

>>27363944
neither kson nor mike were current hololive members, people are writing fanfics about how current members are leaving on package deals and making up things about mass discontent among the ranks

>> No.27364158

One retard makes a uninspired bait thread, delusional autists take it seriously and embarras themselves.The story of this thread.

>> No.27364183

>>27363490
Marine, Noel, Irys, Gura, and Ame all like that kind of content. Also Choco and Mel

>> No.27364244

>>27353935
>1 new outfit design
HAHAHAHAHAHahahahahhaha

>> No.27364284

>>27364035
source?

>> No.27364303

>>27364101
During the incident there was a lot of shifting information and back-and-forths, because the whole mess was a big matter of miscommunications.

But when the dust settled, it wasn't that big of a deal and only schizoid Nuxfags still hold onto it

>> No.27364341

>>27362271
*until they make it big and the copyright jews start targeting you
Of course if they never become successful that's not a problem I guess.

>> No.27364433

>>27363788
basically. shitposters clearly don't even watch the people they are mentioning >>27363775

>> No.27364591

>>27364433
yea that's what i was thinking "do they even watch streams?"

>> No.27364776

>>27364591
I get you guys hate Mori, but Gura does unironically follow her around like that. It's the only reason she ended up at the frat party in the first place.

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>>27363944
>anything is possible
The return of the Dark Lord?

>> No.27364844

Kek. This whole thread is full of Vshojofags actually thinking anyone in Hololive will actually leave. Only way more Holomems are joining Vshojo is if they are forced out like Coco and Rushia. Even then most of them would be better off just continuing on as their roommate.

>> No.27364862

>>27353935
you're a retard

>> No.27364865

>>27364776
>but Gura does unironically follow her around like that
no she really doesn't

>> No.27364911

>>27364865
ok retard

>> No.27364939

>>27364844
Yes and they can continue as their own roomate WHILE being in Vshojo... anon the cards are in the whores's cum filled hands, Cover has to think fast.

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27364964

If there's one thing I got from the shitposting fiesta that was today is nobody here actually knows anything about the vtuber industry. Every single "prediction" here deserves to go into a fanfiction collection, because good lord people seriously think this is a movie and there's masterminds behind scenes playing 5D chess and backstabbing each other.
Just wanted to say it makes me feel better to know no self-respecting chuuba will take this place seriously and the ones that do are equally retarded and in the dumpster where they belong. Peace.

>> No.27364988

Gun down every Vwhorejo and Vwhorejo fan, if I knew this was gonna happen I would have prayed with all my heart for a shooting at AEX

>> No.27364999

>>27364341
>until they make it big
Mouse literally just broke records in February during her subathon

>> No.27365054

>>27364988
And nothing would have changed because prayer doesn't do anything because god isn't real

>> No.27365066

vshojofags are desperate and eager for Hololive members to quit (for no reason) so they can save their useless company full of whores.

Lol, lmao even.

>> No.27365103

>>27364964
yeah this whole "they will leave because Mori will leave" is the most retarded thing I heard in a while in this baord

>> No.27365117

>>27363775
Basically, Hololive EN was a mistake

>> No.27365125

>>27353935
Treat your talents better holy fuck

>> No.27365196

>>27364776
>It's the only reason she ended up at the frat party in the first place.
>gura follows mori around which is why she came to a party neither gura or mori knew was happening!!!
watch streams

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27365215

>>27364183
I doubt any of those girls will go since they are pretty apolitical. I just don't see them fitting in when the other Vshojo girls start openly ranting about their political views.

>> No.27365219

>>27364776
i don't hate mori? gura is my oshi and i never got the impression she follows her around, she is her friend and she thinks highly of everyone in myth

>> No.27365263

>>27353935
Let all whores fuck off. Let all proper girls stay. They can even have significant others giving them cooms off-screen so long as they’re decent people and enthusiastic streamers.

>> No.27365412

>>27365215
They are apolitical because of Cover rules, which is a good thing imo, Ame is a huge SJW, same with Kiara.

>> No.27365420

>>27363490
>the kind of content Vshojo does
"The kind of content VShojo does" is whatever content the talent wants to do.

It's just that the founding members were all friends and naturally had similar personalities and senses of humors.

Prayers from Abigail could join VShojo and still be a good Christian girl, nothing changes that they don't personally want to change.

>> No.27365456

>>27365215
Based Melody.

>> No.27365458

>>27365215
You should check their rm accounts, because they posted similar things as well.

>> No.27365524

>>27365458
source?

>> No.27365580

Vshojo is a loosely cobbled group of friends masquerading as an organization, they literally don't do anything besides try to pull in contracts and deals and even that is debatable sometimes, while the quality of absolutely literally anything else they might do for their crew is bottom of the barrel quality. The only reason you'd ever want to join them is to hang out with them, but you don't even need to do that when they collab with everyone under the sun anyway.

>> No.27365620

>>27365524
NTA but do your reps, we can't give much info about RM stuff

>> No.27365637

>>27365215
Oh no, sex isn’t a toy, horrible.

>> No.27365751

>>27365412
Japanese chuubas in general are apolitical, because otaku hate political shit in their media and Vtubers are a mainly otaku hobby (at least in Japan). Notice how almost no Japanese indies bring up politics while EN indies do it constantly. Its a Japan vs the west thing.

>> No.27365787

>>27364035
Even if she'd dabbed on NFTs...which as far as I'm concerned is based...it would still have been weighing in on a controversy. While I think Ame could have made it both fun and funny, she's got a decent track record with that sort of thing, I'm glad she didn't and avoided any potential flak, from either NFT faggots, OR people not getting the joke

>> No.27365789

>>27365580
I mean most VShoujo members have 10x the amount of models, outfits, etc. that Hololive does

>> No.27365792

>>27365420
There's no point in joining a group if you don't have any similar interests as the other members. That's like joining a club and then just doing your own thing in the corner. People are going to wonder why they even joined. If enough members don't see eye to eye on things, it will lead to factions and splitting of the group. "Freedom" is an illusion. We are all bounded by conformity whether it's for one community or another.

>> No.27365830

>>27365524
Not eating another 3 day ban for it, sorry.

>> No.27365861

>>27365412
>>27365637
>>27365751
Fuck your rules and fuck your disrespect. TALENT FREEDOM is here.

>> No.27365913

>>27365751
or maybe you don't pick up on it because you don't speak japanese or understand that they have their own internal politics that is separate from the US

>> No.27365991

>>27365620
>>27365830
>no source
as expected

>> No.27366138

>>27362728
>refused to remove something
>something that time and money was spent on
>something that would only get a positive reaction
>"out of respect"
Are you retarded?

>> No.27366145

>>27365991
if it actually exist antis would have spammed it day one

>> No.27366183

>>27366145
exactly

>> No.27366205

>>27358522
>Biggest female streamer worldwide Ironmouse
>Barely breaks 10k ccv post-subathon
HAHAHAHA

>> No.27366216

All of you are blind, VShojoJP is just a front made by people close to Hololive to make some kind of retirement home for people who can't stay in Holo because investors would get mad. You will never see a ban on collabs with any VShojo member.

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>>27365215

>> No.27366253

>>27365789
all self-paid that any other indie can do

>> No.27366293

>>27366138
That's a lot of reaching.

>> No.27366330

>>27365792
Of course an example like the one I gave is an extreme one that probably wouldn't happen. But even within the current roster, the girls have their differences.

They play different games, they have different talents, they run their streams differently. And they do have different senses of humor, believe it or not.
If Melody didn't have a CB channel, you'd probably wonder why she's in VShojo 'cause her disposition doesn't match the others at all.

Then you've got frequent collaborators who could easily get an envelope like Haruka or Layna who don't fit "the mold" so to speak.

>> No.27366368

>>27366216 (me)
>You will never see a ban on collabs with any VShojo member.
I mean any new members after the ones just announced.

>> No.27366476

>>27362355
They love her, but they don't have a good solution to her problem. Releasing her was hard for their heart, but in their head, that's probably the only solution. With this announcement, They probably are happy that she can be successful again after what she had to endure in the past.

>> No.27366480

>>27366330
Okay, you do have a good point there.

>> No.27366486

>>27365861
Ah yes, "Talent Freedom". So these girl will be allowed to talk about how much they love loli and shota on stream right? Or talk about how they don't particularly like transsexuals? Or about how they don't want immigration into their country?
Vshojo's Talent Freedom is bullshit. They're only allowed to say and do what is deemed "acceptable". Nothing based in the US has freedom.

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27366493

>>27361686
I was watching the OGs like kizuna ai kaguya luna mirai akari Siro のらきゃっと Nekomiya Hinata Peanuts-kun Baacharu and Moemi & Yomemi i wached tokino soras debut on niconico live when she was the only holo member. Shizuoka rin tsukino mito and higuchi kaede the jk gumi group back when nijisanji was just starting up all before your Vwhores group existed you don't even reach my level faggot. so sit down and shut the fuck up the only thing you got right is the seethe part Vwhore nigger i am as old fag as they get i was around for the reality app fool do you even know what that is or was baby-chama.

>> No.27366547

>>27358404
unironically no one

>> No.27366587

>>27366183
keep coping

>> No.27366598

>>27364303
You mean after an attempt to cancel nux vshojo got assblasted by nux producing receipts and were forced to grovel before him for forgiveness and say it was all a misunderstanding.

>> No.27366618

>>27366587
keep seething

>> No.27366637

>>27365792
There aren't any set standards for their JP branch.

>> No.27366639

>>27366486
Talent Freedom doesn't mean freedom to be retarded, anon, just means they can do variety contents with less than a fraction of the limitations Cover enforces

>> No.27366657

>>27366486
> Or talk about how they don't particularly like transsexuals? Or about how they don't want immigration into their country?

Just because they don't share your dumbfuck views doesn't mean they're being censored.

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>>27366657
You need to go back.

>> No.27366940

>>27366657
Holy fuck... ok i remembered how shitting on cover can attract actual troons, I'm off to play some games. Closing thoughts, Cover do better or you'll end up in the dumb and uhm... you sir get mental health care for the love of god.

>> No.27366969

>>27359055
Coco is an ameritmutt, those dogs have no honor or loyalty. They are whores who only lust for money. Can't compare her to the rest of the JP branch.

>> No.27366973

>>27366657
"Trans Rights? What's that?" -Kson

>> No.27367037

>>27365861
seethe tranny

>> No.27367083

Yeah and Salami is gonna be a consistent 90k streamer because of super sekrit and deep desuwa symbolisms that only pure blooded japanese people could appreciate.
I'd sooner believe /b/ anons are respected members of society than believing any retarded "insight" you brainless nigger keep parroting around.

>> No.27367212

>>27366639
>>27366657
>saying that about kiryu "trans right. trans rights? what's that?" coco
>>27366940
you get what you fucking deserve kek

>> No.27367301

"Freedom" is nothing more than bourgeois idealism

>> No.27367400

How much longer do you think some of the Holos are going to put up with:

-30% revenue cut
-permissions
-shitty L2Ds
-waiting forever for 3D(non-JPs)
-walking on eggshells in normal conversations
-collab bans(Kson; NijiEN)
-getting shit on by fans for breaking rules that aren't real
-little to no input on the model lent to them
-their ideas constantly being shot down
-not owning the content they make

>> No.27367419

>>27365215
>Human rights are being taken away from us
>Booooo how dare she be upset about this

>> No.27367554

>>27367400
Don't forget Cover also forces them to work even when they're physically injured. It won't be much longer until most of them wise up and jump ship. A lot of rumors going around about a few talents in HoloJP talking to Kson on Discord. Not sure what they said, but it seems like at least a few of them have been in the loop with what's going on and are probably eyeing other opportunities

>> No.27367583

>>27367419
Fags aren't human though

>> No.27367588

>>27366639
Love how suddenly the goalpost has been lowered to encompass troon rights and other various agendas VShojo are forced to swear allegiance to.

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27367632

>>27367419
>killing babies is a human right
gb2 twitter

>> No.27367659

>>27367583
That has nothing to do with gays, retard.

>> No.27367712

>>27353935
Just take Mori, Ollie and Bae and go ahead become camwhores all you want.

>> No.27367714

>>27367659
I'm sorry I thought it was fag related since you were posting about it. anyway >>27367632

>> No.27367734

>>27367632
>babies
They aren't yet. Otherwise your birthday would be the day your parents had sex.

>> No.27367775

>>27367632
- men who doesn't have sex, and never is going to have a child

>> No.27367819

>>27367775
Now try it in English

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>>27367734
>>27367775
I don't know who led you here, but it's time for you tourists to go back.

>> No.27368087

>>27367400
Thiers still way more reason for them to stay than to leave.
Also I know Vshojocuks are getting uppity right now but they need to stop acting like the door hasn't already been open with several options for the entirety of Hololives existence. VshojoJP doesn't create some sort of opportunity that didn't exist before.

>> No.27368105

Hope it goes well for them. Still not watching Vshitjo though.

>> No.27368198

>>27367554
>A lot of rumors going around about a few talents in HoloJP talking to Kson on Discord.
Sounds like made up bullshit to push a narrative.

>> No.27368246

>>27368198
because it is

>> No.27368371

>>27367734
that's conception day not BIRTHday, come on man

>> No.27368509

>>27358838
You joke but these are the normie brands that make them popular to the masses.

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