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One year on. Did she make a mistake?

>> No.27228181

she has all the la creatividad freedum that she wanted now. she just isn't doing anything interesting with it.

>> No.27228220

We will never know because we have no idea if losing cover's cut compensates for the fact that she only gets a fraction of the viewers she used to have at the height of coco's popularity.
Judging by NijiEN leaking their youtube analytics. I think her loss in viewership resulted in a significant loss in income.

>> No.27228251

>>27228154
It made sense at the time for her to leave. What she has done with her indie freedom since then is another story.

>> No.27228278

She seems to be doing decently well enough for herself. I don't think she really misses collabing with the Hololive girls considering she can meet up with them whenever she wants.

>> No.27228303

Also, I admit I haven't watched her too much since she graduated. Do the bug people still spam her chat?

>> No.27228312

>>27228220
Qrd on niji leak?

>> No.27228330

Her recent king cover with some 2view was neat.

>> No.27228332

>>27228312
Millie showed her income onstream, it was 13K dollars.

>> No.27228442

>>27228303
No, the anti spam was implemented on her channel.
>>27228154
Nah, she looks more happy now.
>>27228220
I don't know about this but her superchat ranking is increasing (She at rank 46). Then again she can afford spending 100k yen on Adidas x Gucci goods and setting up 3D at her home.

>> No.27228516

>>27228442
Back when she worked at hololive, she asked for a quote for the full xense motion capture hardware they had at the studio and said onstream she couldn't afford it.
Might be cheaper hardware she's ordering now. I don't know.

>> No.27228602

Well she can collab with whoever she wants now and even went on cb with mel so shes doing pretty good

>> No.27228645

>>27228220
Coco's regular streams never did big numbers what the fuck are you talking about. The jump from her Coco's number to what she gets nowadays as Kson is unconsensual

>> No.27228690

>>27228516
It's cost 10 million yen...

>> No.27228849

>>27228154
no, she was legitimately unhappy for like six months prior to graduation. She is mostly happy now, so that's good.
advice, for a moment stop thinking like a brandfag

>> No.27229107

>>27228645
It's unconsensual?

>> No.27229202

>>27229107
inconsequential* this is what I get for phoneposting

>> No.27229421

>>27228154
>earns basically what she used to but now she doesn't have to share it with anybody else
Of course you have to take into account the merchandise boost you get from being in Hololive but overall she's better without the chains.

>> No.27229544

>>27229421
>she's better without the chains.
her content was 100x more interesting before she left. she's just a generic e-whore these days.

>> No.27229555

i dont think it was really about going indie.
think she might have quit vtubing as a whole.

>> No.27229635

>>27229544
>generic e-whore these days
You really need to venture out more rather than listen to anons here on vt.

>> No.27229798

>>27229635
i've watched some of her streams. she's shylily-tier.

>> No.27229829

>>27229555
She still does vtubing, how did someone who does still does vtubing quit it? Just because she shows her face sometimes?

>> No.27229866

>>27229829
Sadly people don't know that Tamaki existed.

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>>27228154
>Did she make a mistake?
No and I love her.

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>>27228154
>leaving hololive is a grave mistake, a sin, literal suicide
you fags need to go out more, cause this corpo bootlicking makes your brain smooth

>> No.27231113

>>27228154
not doing anything or not fulfill some target is some kind of freedom

>> No.27231394

She's happy now. She can show her tits without getting reprimanded.

>> No.27231458

>>27228332
Like, an all-time income or a monthly one? Also, i assume that's after Niji cut but before tax?

>> No.27231514

>>27228154
She's making more money, but honestly she isn't really doing anything interesting content wise. Might change now that she has more freedom with her 3D though.

>> No.27231562

>>27228154
For her? No. For us? Yeah.

>> No.27232595

>>27231514
Reacting to youtube videos in 3D!

>> No.27232619

>>27228154
No. More holos need to follow her example

>> No.27232665

>>27228154
No, it was management, they should kill themselves right away

>> No.27235367

>>27228154
I still support her but I feel that she's more of a pseudo-retirement nowadays

>> No.27235545

watame collab when

>> No.27235628

ITT Anti bugmen

>> No.27235655

>>27228330
>2view.

Anon...I....

>> No.27235800

>>27228154
>Was made to pay for fucking stock images when showing memes
>Can play any game without waiting 6 months for 3 levels of management at each company to do some sort of tantric b2b ritual
No way

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>One year on. Did she make a mistake?

>> No.27236053

"Creative Freedom"
Tatsunocucks seems to hate that phrase, I wonder why?

>> No.27236568

>>27228154
I think she only misses doing the concert with other Holomem

>> No.27237091

>>27228154
She now has the creative freedom to stream how she builds random platic toys.

>> No.27237141

Fuck real life attention whores, simple as.

>> No.27237182

>>27228181
all of that was just her coping way of saying "Managers were mean to me, so i'm going to have my own channel, with blackjack, and hookers!"

>> No.27237206

>>27237141
but that's you
should i fuck your ass?

>> No.27237285

>>27237141
This.
3DPD gets the rope.

>> No.27237529

>>27236053
Nijikek seems to hate that phrase too I wonder why?

>> No.27237605

>>27237529
>Nijisanji out of fucking nowhere
OBSESSED

>> No.27237691

>>27228154
I love her so much bros
she's on a break but I sent her a red superchat yesterday

>> No.27238271

>>27228154
She seems happier, and her facial expression in IRL streams has gotten much better. (A year ago she really looked miserable even if she was trying to look happy)
It wasn't the perfect solution but it worked out.

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>>27228690
>buy 70grand for mocap system
>gets mogged by 2grand hobby setups

>> No.27239444

>>27238782
We haven't even seen that setup yet outside of the the super 3d teaser. The reveal itself ran on something else according to the dev of her personal 3d setup.

>> No.27239610

>>27239444
is this the "cope"?

>> No.27239629

>>27231458
Monthly, after youtube cut, but before Niji cut.

>> No.27239631

>>27228220
Define fraction because she's getting the same numbers she did as Coco you thread reader.
And in terms of income it's very hard to say if she was hit or not, most likely not.

>> No.27240154

>>27228220
>significant loss in income
>$100k a month

>> No.27240227

>>27240154
*Yawn* cope
NEXT!

>> No.27240374

>>27239610
No, that's a fact.

>> No.27240877

>>27235655
The only girl is a genuine genius.

>> No.27241003

>>27228154
no, seeing her inner flesh whore come out made me cum buckets, it's peak degeneracy

>> No.27241021

>>27228154
Collabing with coomer-bait.
Collabing with trannies.
Too little kayfabe. She's not far away from being a fleshtuber who also happens to have a vtuber model.

>> No.27241304

>>27236053
couse it's not what she claimed, it was "creative differences" between content she wanted to make and what hololive/cover allowed her to do.
"Creative Freedom" is a meme made by schizos like you

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>>27228330

>> No.27241381
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>>27228154
Do you think she works as a hostess and fucks her clients?
What prefecture does she live in so I can have that ewhore pussy

>> No.27241639

>>27228181
Fpbp
>>27237182
Honestly, that subliminal message from her community post is slowly begining to make sense, day after day.

>> No.27241704

>>27240227
https://youtu.be/EklFBkYoHRw?t=1013
unless you wanna claim she is lying, so in that case don't bother replying

>> No.27241728

>>27241304
>content she wanted to make
>kson'sbareass.png
now i see

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>>27241728
>still latching to incident that happened 7-8 months ago, and was never even remotely repeated
my God schizos really are insufferable bunch of human garbage

>> No.27241891

>>27241832
just let them have this one thing
otherwise they look insane and pathetic

>> No.27241897

>>27241832
>p-please forget about it! i-it doesn't count!
now i see

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>>27241897
you can say, do, and remember whatever you want, but be prepared to be mocked for it

>> No.27242119

reminder that sharties don't care about facts or logic or whatever so you might as well dismiss them with some funny image or one-liner instead of trying to argue

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>>27241728
i see, schizo likes asses, there, have one.

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27242240

Invade Taiwan and Hong Kong already so we have an excuse to nuke you

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>>27241832
It's hard to forget that juicy peach looking butt

>> No.27242356

>>27228154
>freedom
>mistake
Get the fuck off this american board.

>> No.27242381

>>27242333
true

>> No.27242390
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27242390

>we get pikason kino now
I regret nothing dayo

>> No.27242407

>>27228181
Yes

>> No.27242467

>>27242390
rikason?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v1THLW7JuQ

>> No.27242495

>>27228220
>he didnt see her 2+ fucking birthday opening streams where she literally had rooms filled with gifts
Is she doing anything interesting with her new found freedom? Nope, but miney wise shes doing just fine

>> No.27242688

>>27241639
Which one was it?

>> No.27243012

>>27228154
>Did she make a mistake?
>Makes 100K month and can do what she wants.
No.

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>>27242390
Pika and Kson go better together than Coco and most the Holos.

>> No.27243257

>>27228154
Company fags should burn and here why look at how limited the view point of US comics are because fags only talk and care about DC/Marvel and all the other cool shit goes unnoticed even though indie books have more creative freedom, they're gonna do this shit to vtubers, if they haven't already.

>> No.27243492

>>27235800
this is the biggest upside in my opinion, not having to deal with cover's management must be a huge weight off her shoulders. I didn't think they could get worse until en managers arrived on the scene

>> No.27243548

>>27228154
No. She made the right decision. If you payed attention to shit behind the curtain and listened to her own admission about the fucking management you'd know. There was no other way. She's not as big and popular now but at least she doesn't have a fucking anchor tied to her neck, strangling the life out of her. Zhangs will never know that the price of freedom is worth it.

>> No.27244137

It was worth it since she managed to recover as an indie. I'm honestly very happy for her now, especially since those zhang-ass antis are off her back.

>> No.27244820

>>27228154
>Did she make a mistake?
Spending 10 grand in Gucchi shit. And having Kanata spend like 3.

Other than that, best decision of her life. As >>27243548 suggests, at least now management isn't giving chat admin rights to chinks, so they can ban some of her longest-time whales.

>> No.27244989

>>27228154
I'm still waiting for her big events and all the cool stuff that the freedom would allow her

>> No.27245210

>>27242003
How one does accidentally show their ass?

>> No.27245295

>>27245210
>flex your back
>shirt rides up
>ass on full display regardless if you meant it

>> No.27245392

>>27245210
Ask Tatsunocucks. Not like they watch Kson though. They're too busy spamming the board with Coco threads and blaming zhangs even though Coco "won".

>> No.27245418

>>27228154
She's doing better than ever and she doesn't have to go to any pointless meetings anymore so yes

>> No.27245486

>>27245418
>Yes
Meant no

>> No.27245587

>>27245210
>cosplay as 2b
>showed her ass
not showing ass in 2b cosplay is literally a crime

>> No.27245651

>>27245210
Kson a tease, braless in some streams or does ringfit on cam.

>> No.27245703

>>27245392
Fuck you Artia, go sell your NFTs somewhere else.

>> No.27246023

>>27245703
>no defense
>resort to chink calling
LMAOOO

>> No.27246378

>>27246023
nta, but what defense?
one anon posted her words about ass flashing
>>27242003
every claim you post here got defused, yet still schizos like you drill the topic ad infinitum, aside of that one time you can't pin point any other instance of flashing anything, it's like talking to a wall, so why not just resort to your tactic of shitflinging everywhere.
and if you thought of replying "what defense, there's none" you are being too obvious

>> No.27246635

>>27243548
>and listened to her own admission about the fucking management
Is there any vtuber company where management isn't retarded?

>> No.27246834

>>27246635
Doubt it. Some are obviously more retarded than others with different retardo-traits. Last year Hololive's was something special.

>> No.27247380

She could have actually done better under a less restrictive corpo. If she went to nijisanji or even vshojo she would still have the same more freedom than what cover gave her and she would have the financial and tech support of a corporation. She really needs support after her lackluster 3d debut

>> No.27247807

>>27246023
I just entered this thread. i just saw what artiafag always writes (you should update the txt. From your desktop)
Any problem with that cryptobro?

>> No.27249129

>no bugman spam
>no corpo taking over half of the donation money
>got all the subs back and more
>can colab with a lot more people
>still gets to colab with a few people on their's roommate account
I'd say she is doing great

>> No.27249220

>>27246834
>Some are obviously more retarded than others with different retardo-traits.
I'll admit - I asked about it because I only know about Activ8 & upd8 and Hololive in terms of "holy fuck why didn't the management think beforehand about it and fixed (well, okay, "properly treated" is fairer to say) the situation only when it was already too late (and hopefully management learned their lesson)", I don't know much about other companies but brief mentions on the catalog don't show any optimism.
>Last year Hololive's was something special.
Well, this year didn't start any better - I doubt the situation would escalate that bad had the management kept a watchful eye on one of their talents (who was on the brink of depression and probably had poor control over her own actions when the drama happened) and provided proper medical treatment until her physical and mental condition got better. But instead it feels like she just got the same "quarantine" treatment Coco had, and I remember in what horrible state Coco was back then during it - maybe management doesn't learn after all.
At least for Kson it's all in the past now (outside of chinks, but oh well, Fubuki can't get rid of them either).

>> No.27249358

>>27228154
Her content is pretty boring and uninteresting now, she does a few streams here or their that id watch. But since she isnt the dragon anymore she seems to have lost what made her fun in the first place, plus colabs were a big part of her appeal and the non holo colabs have been mostly dog shit. Not a mistake per say but definitely lost a ton if her appeal

>> No.27249396

Despite the ongoing Shin'eitai cope that she's taking the entire industry by storm she started off OK and was fun to watch in the latter half of last year as well as the first 3 months of 2022 or so but eventually when she got too immersed in the Twitch community quality went down and I just stopped watching. I don't hate her as a person I just can't watch her anymore because I'm just not cut out for who she is today. That's all. I don't want to start any trouble.

>> No.27249728

>>27249396
>she got too immersed in the Twitch community
She barely streams on Twitch.

>> No.27249796

>>27228154
good for her but i honestly got tired after a while since she wasnt doing anything interesting anymore but im glad that a lot of people have stuck with her

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>>27228154
no it's all going according to keikaku, haachama will be the next to change ship

>> No.27250612

>>27228154
Absolutely fucking not. It's only a matter of time until multiple Holos start following her lead.

>> No.27255961

>>27228154
no

>> No.27256588

>>27228251
No it didn't. She was literally at the height of her popularity when she left.

>> No.27256701

>>27228602
Except anyone from Hololive, of course.

>> No.27256862

Howd her 3D debut go?

>> No.27256959

I don't like her model at all. Coco's model was god-tier.

>> No.27257550

>>27228154
More of a sidestep then a mistake or positive, I only hope that she's not eternally blocked from collaborating with Hololive. It makes sense to give her a year or so to spread her wings and for Holofans to move on, but it be financially beneficial for all parties when her guest appearance causes a spike in viewers/donos, plus it would make her old mates happy

>> No.27257613

>>27228154
She went from getting 15% net income from the revenue she generates to 25%. I'd say that's worth it barring a major collapse.

>> No.27259919

>>27228154
I bet she smells gross

>> No.27260286

>>27259919
*sniiiiiiff*

>> No.27260605

>>27228181
i've used this argument before as well. Im starting to think now that its not creative freedom she wanted but freedom from bureaucracy. I get the impression doing even the simplest things was a weeks long hassle of permissions and management checks was just sucking the fun out of it. She is still irl friends so for her its not much different

>> No.27260875

>>27249728
Paris is the capital of France.

>> No.27266946

>>27228849
This. Nobody remembers cause her graduation month let her leave on a high note but she wasn't up to anything before leaving and she sounded genuinely frustrated talking about management and her situation. Just waiting for the spammers to get bored and leave her alone which never happened.

>> No.27272894

>>27260605
>Im starting to think now that its not creative freedom she wanted but freedom from bureaucracy. I get the impression doing even the simplest things was a weeks long hassle of permissions and management checks was just sucking the fun out of it.
Yea that's literally what she said

>> No.27273751

>>27257550
it's cover so I'm sure they'll find a reason to say no and word it in a way that pisses everybody off

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