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>> No.27208267
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebi82nn2n.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.27208316
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>79,770: Hololive (Hololive)
>28,632: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,682: Mio (Hololive)
>26,461: Tsuna (VSPO)
>24,631: Hal (Neo Porte)
>22,658: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>21,419: Mumei (Hololive)
>19,892: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,390: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,839: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,637: Fauna (Hololive)
>16,207: Watame (Hololive)
>15,775: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,778: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,529: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,109: Polka (Hololive)
>11,944: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,867: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,948: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,716: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,295: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,124: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Ame (Hololive)

>> No.27208322

>>27208008
>VERSEn being a poorly defined multimedia experience
But thats what theyve been promoting since since day 1 though, Versen was supposed to be a multimedia thing (manga, anime, games) centered around the vtuber characters but sony was expecting them to reach gura levels and when they didnt they just left them on the corner to die

>> No.27208356

>>27208133
>Outsource a physical office studio for your EN branch to ESL SEA
Dumbest post in that entire thread. Even more retarded than the shitposters. The fact it seems to have been made in good faith is honestly depressing

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>>27208316
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2
18) Debi (Nijisanji) - 54,133 - Response battle tournament
19) Flare (Hololive) - 86,846 - 3D birthday live
20) Gura (Hololive) - 52,614 - Unarchived karaoke w/Amelia
21) Lui (Hololive) - 100,833 - 3D debut
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 40,612 - Super Smash Bros.
23) Salome (Nijisanji) - 44,230 - Disaster Report 2
24) Sango (Nijisanji) - 103,915 - 3D debut
25) Noel (Hololive) - 64,178 - 3D live
26) Masaru (Nijisanji) - 79,911 - Niji Typing King tournament
27) Laplus (Hololive) - 154,513 - 3D debut
28) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,971 - Holocure
29) Calli (Hololive) – 44,187 – Myth Off-Collab
30) Hololive (Hololive) – 79,770 – HoloX 3D collab "Hideout reveal"

>PER COMPANY
15x: Nijisanji
15x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
11x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Debi, Flare, Gura, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Laplus, Lui, Masaru, Mio, Noel, Sango, Subaru, Watame, Pekora, Calli, Hololive

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
118x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>> No.27208369

Ah peace

>> No.27208386

/#/ is declining.

>> No.27208403

>>27208356
>>Outsource a physical office studio to ESL SEA
But isnt that what most US companies are doing?

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>>27208360
>>27203919 :: Silver
>>27203848 :: Bronze

>> No.27208433

>>27208356
>to ESL SEA
kek, I completely fail to see the difference from dealing with ESL JOP from the American girls perspective.
I say the millions of dollars in savings would more than offset the girls to be mildly inconvenienced by having to talk with someone with Moona level of English

Again: for the ones in Australia and the ones in Japan and the ones in Indonesia (13 / 20 of current HoloEN + HoloID) it would be much closer to fly to Indonesia (or stay there)

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>Natural Incline

>> No.27208507

>>27208433
>I say the millions of dollars in savings
It doesn't cost millions of fucking dollars to set up an office in the US. It doesn't even cost a million dollars to set up a fully equipped 3D studio in California, which would be the most expensive state to do it in

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>> No.27208535

>>27206554
Wait that actually made me think, Does Niji have a 3D studio in NA for their EN talent? or do they fly the talents to japan for their 3d or eventual 3d?

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>> No.27208571

>>27208535
Anyone who thinks NijiEN will ever have 3D is delusional or shitposting.

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>>27208549

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>>27208535
no. anycolor will fly nijien to nipland they have superior 3d tech studios over there. good 3d staff members too

>> No.27208614

>>27208165
>>27208322
>centered around the vtuber characters
And I'm saying that's not the impression that anyone watching the animated short will get, and for eight months that trailer has been the only media content that the average viewer will perceive as an ad for VERSEn as a whole. If you watch the trailer you would assume that the sixth girl is the protagonist, and the other five are supporting characters. So people fucked off expecting an anime about the sixth girl, or something like that, and since that never actually materialised the vtubers are stuck in this awkward spot where nobody really knows what the livestreaming content is really for. Vtubing as a whole is still marginal compared to any other type of media content so people quite simply "don't get it". I don't think Sony communicated any of their intent well.

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>> No.27208680

>>27208507
The anon is right though from a purely RoI perspective an Indonesia office makes way more sense.

>Can be used as a back up studio for JPs if its full or booked for some reason
>Long term cheaper than the US by far
>Side steps all the covid fuckery and anal retentive governments of both the US/Japan
>Ups the production value of its already booming ID branch to crush the competitors

I think it would be smarter. Now a cheap studio in Texas with a couple staff and Ame could certainly get a lot done as well but I think that anons premise is still right.

>> No.27208700

>>27208507
>t doesn't even cost a million dollars to set up a fully equipped 3D studio in California
nta but proof?

>> No.27208751

Fauna has almost exactly her monthly average for June right now. Consistency is admirable.

>> No.27208754

>>27208507
>It doesn't even cost a million dollars to set up a fully equipped 3D studio in California
That's why the girls can rent one for cheap there, amirite? A 3D studio is much more than the equipment, there is also the specialized workforce (and their salaries), the regulatory barriers, there is a reason established american companies are fleeing California to Texas, who the fuck would be as dumb as to open something there right now?

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>21,634: Mumei (Hololive)
>17,658: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,937: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,473: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Amelia (Hololive)
>9,842: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,013: Uki (Nijisanji)
>6,993: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>6,415: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,112: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,770: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,266: Shu (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JUNE

1. Gura (Hololive) - 24,412 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 18,716 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
3. Kronii (Hololive) - 10,059 (Powerwash Simulator)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 20,896 (Minecraft w/Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,190 (Graduation ASMR)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 8,655 (Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag)
7. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,389 (650k Subscriber Countdown)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 23,246 (Minecraft)
9. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,183 (Tier List Collab w/Shu)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 24,168 (I am Fish)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 23,575 (Switch Sports w/Shion ToT )
12. Kiara (Hololive) - 28,531 (New Outfit Reveal)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,740 (Unpacking)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 11,627 (Punching Bag ASMR)
15. Gura (Hololive) - 22,549 (I am Fish)
16. Gura (Hololive) - 34,729 (WWE 2K22)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 43,127 (4 Million Subscriber Unarchived Karaoke Special)
18. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,014 (CHaDcast Episode 6 w/Mori and Baelz)
19. Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,093 (RP ASMR)
20. Gura (Hololive) - 52,622 (Unarchived Karaoke off-collab w/Amelia)
21. Gura (Hololive) - 63,036 (Birthday 3D mini Concert)
22. Ina (Hololive) - 28,658 (Super Smash Bros. w/Amelia, Kiara, and Gura)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 11,720 (FNAF Help Wanted)
24. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,885 (The Convenience Store)
25. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 16,719 (New Music Video Celebration)
26. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,965 (I don't even know anymore, probably something gay)
27. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,672 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
28. Kronii (Hololive) - 26,657 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
29. Mori (Hololive) - 44,358 (Off-collab karaoke and chatting)
30. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,634 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)

>PER COMPANY
Hololive - 20
Nijisanji - 10
Others - 0

>PER STREAMER
11x: Gura
6x: Mysta
4x: Vox
2x: Kronii, Mumei
1x: Fauna, Kiara, IRyS, Ina, Mori

>> No.27208799

>>27208614
>I don't think Sony communicated any of their intent well
Its sony what did you expect? this is the same company that re-released morbius cause they thought that the memes meant people liked morbius

>> No.27208807
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>>27208762
*JUNE TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT

>Gold
11 Golds: Gura
6 Golds: Mysta
4 Golds: Vox
2 Golds: Kronii, Mumei
1 Gold: Fauna, Kiara, IRyS, Ina, Mori

HoloEN: 20 Golds
NijiEN: 10 Golds

>Silver
5 Silvers: Vox
4 Silvers: Mysta
3 Silvers: Ike, Shu, Fauna
2 Silvers: Amelia, Mumei
1 Silver: Selen, Kiara, Uki, Alban, Gura, Luca, Baelz, Yugo

HoloEN: 10 Silvers
NijiEN: 20 Silvers

>Bronze
7 Bronze: Kronii
4 Bronze: Mori
3 Bronze: Luca, Vox, Mysta
2 Bronze: Amelia, Fauna
1 Bronze: Yugo, Shu, IRyS, Uki, Kiara, Gura


HoloEN: 18 Bronze
NijiEN: 12 Bronze

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June Spotify for HoloEN

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Final /news/ roundup for 30-06-2022
>>27195097

Holocure Data
>>27150306

Recent clip numbers
>>27166865
>>27167282
>>27167895

>> No.27208979
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>>27208807
*TOTAL EN MEDAL COUNT OVERALL*

>Gold
40 Golds: Gura
18 Golds: Vox
17 Golds: Mysta
13 Golds: Mumei
10 Golds: Mori
7 Golds: Baelz, Kronii
5 Golds: Kiara
4 Golds: Fauna
3 Golds: Amelia, Yugo, Shu, Uki, Ike, IRyS, Ina
2 Golds: Luca
1 Gold: Elira, Enna, Nina, Alban, Sara

>Silver
21 Silvers: Vox
15 Silvers: Mysta
14 Silvers: Mumei
12 Silvers: Ina
10 Silvers: Luca
9 Silvers: IRyS, Amelia
8 Silvers: Gura
7 Silvers: Fauna
6 Silvers: Ike, Baelz
5 Silvers: Mori, Shu
4 Silvers: Kronii
3 Silvers: Kiara
2 Silvers: Selen, Yugo
1 Silver: Sonny, Enna, Nina, Uki, Alban

>Bronze
25 Bronze: Mysta
19 Bronze: Vox
13 Bronze: Mori
12 Bronze: Ina
11 Bronze: Kronii
9 Bronze: Luca, Amelia
6 Bronze: Mumei, IRyS
5 Bronze: Baelz, Ike, Fauna, Gura
4 Bronze: Shu, Kiara
2 Bronze: Yugo, Uki
1 Bronze: Petra, Selen, Alban

>HOLOLIVE
95 Golds
85 Silvers
73 Bronze
253 TOTAL MEDALS

>NIJISANJI
53 Golds
66 Silvers
69 Bronze
188 TOTAL MEDALS

>OTHERS
1 Gold
0 Silver
0 Bronze
1 TOTAL MEDAL

>> No.27208980

anyone else feeling the burnout from numbers? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

>> No.27209022

>>27208614
wouldnt even matter since the people who they were targeting as an audience despise sony due to how they treated a vtuber talent in the past

>> No.27209095

>>27208979
>188 total NijiEN medals
>Just 9 of them are from the three female "waves"
Kek

>> No.27209177

>>27209095
yeah they really dropped the ball on the female waves and now they are more or less accessories to the males and what makes it worse is that some of them are easily manipulated and groomed by their co-workers and discord

>> No.27209210

>>27207755
>>27207437
I'm well aware, but not everyone is in 4chan to recognize it. I only gave examples.
>>27207468
For Fantasia I do agree they are going into the idol direction with the outfits, which I've seen some complaints about it being a thing. But I still dont agree with the idol branding, because its a different thing.

>> No.27209262

>>27209177
Literally all of the en girls are higher than a lot of JP and over every exkr and exid except maybe mika and nari

>> No.27209335

>>27209177
I mean what did you expect they were rejects from different companies after all

>> No.27209354

>>27208700
>https://www.racketsource.com/articles/how-much-does-a-motion-capture-system-cost-cb40dc73/
>200k to up to a million

>https://www.squarefoot.com/blog/large-office-lease-cost-los-angeles/#:~:text=Many%20landlords%20and%20building%20owners,per%20square%20foot%20per%20month.
>3.50$ per Square Foot on Average, can go as low as 2$

>https://www.iofficecorp.com/blog/office-space-per-employee#:~:text=Common%20areas%20-%2080-100%20square,110%20square%20feet%20per%20person
>100~ Square feet per person, assume 20 people, 20k Square Feet*3.50$ = 70k$

Are these numbers not satisfactory

>>27208754
Yes, it is literally cheaper to rent one in California than it is in the EU for exactly this reason, just look up the costs on the internet you can see it costs around 2000 dollars for a full day, which is cheaper than the 6 figures that Kiara was looking at in EU. It's even more cost effective to run it yourself in a place that isn't fucking California, which I never suggested should be the location of any office and only brought it up as a point of comparison.

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So, it's time for the usual *median of peak CCV* tables for the month of June.
Here are some disclaimers
>Only channels with 5 or more streams
>The "true average" tables will *immediately* follow so if you don't like the median just wait for the averages
>Changed VSPO company to Brave Group to reflect their acquisition. Branch continues to be VSPO
>Per request the colors for (former) NijiKR and NijiID are derivations of NIji red, and their green was used for 774 Inc.

Here it goes
>pic related

Ten comments
1) 7500 was the cutting point for the Top 50 this month
2) 32(!) Holo channels made the cut (7 EN, 1 ID),
3) 14 Niji channels made the cut (4 EN)
4) One of each NoriPro, Neo Porte, VSPO and one Indie made the cut
5) Salome was, unsurprisingly, the highest ranked for the month of June
6) Hololive main channel, Pekora, Miko and Suisei complete the Top 5
7) Kuzuha, Tsuna, Subaru and Gura complete the 20k+ group
8) Kobo is the second highest ranked out of the "international" cut, outranking Vox
9) Notable absences are Hal (which missed the cut) and Mito (which didn't stream even once in June)

and the punchline
10) Nekota Tsuna had an awesome debut and started with her best foot forward, finishing with a 26461 median in 5 streams.
All eyes are on her to see where her numbers will stabilize and whether VSPO will get a general incline out of this

>> No.27209507

>>27209392
Is this the first time Fauna has finished over 10k since their debut months?

>> No.27209511

>>27209354
>3.50$ per Square Foot on Average, can go as low as 2$
>March 30 2021
>100~ Square feet per person, assume 20 people, 20k Square Feet*3.50$ = 70k$
November 24, 2020
Anon have you been living under a rock these past few months?

>> No.27209520

>>27209392
>Fauna higher peak median than fucking Mysta
Excuse me?

>> No.27209555

>>27208979
>NijiEN medal breakdown by wave
Luxiem: 162
Noctyx: 17
Ethyria: 4
Obsydia: 4
Lazulight: 1

>> No.27209559

>>27209354
>https://www.racketsource.com/articles/how-much-does-a-motion-capture-system-cost-cb40dc73/
For fuck sake, here is from your link

>While the terms are interchangeable, motion capture implies recording only the movement of head and body but no facial or finger data, whereas performance capture includes hands, fingers and face.
Your dumb system barely better than a home 3D is what they're quoting at a million dollars.
Please stop being dumb and stop talking shit out of your ass.

Setting up a world class 3D studio as Cover and Nijisanji has in Japan is expensive as fuck, setting it up in California would easily triple the price even in relation to setting it up in Texas, let alone in Canada or, as people correctly pointed out, in Indonesia

>> No.27209593

>>27209511
Dude, I produced sources and numbers, the least you could do if you're going to argue the point is seriously attempt a rebuttal instead of vagueposting like this

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>>27209392
>Outranking Vox and Mysta
Nothing personnel homo

>> No.27209614

>>27209392
>23 10k+ median channels vs 8
holy shit

>> No.27209638

>>27208459
it's weird how nijis "stabilize" at the number that the z dropped them when holos usually climb back naturally, almost as if they had a way to pump numbers to the previous number

>> No.27209652

>>27208799
Actually I'm kinda baffled at the whole Sony ownership thing. As far as I can tell, the ONLY place that mentions Sony Music Japan's involvement in VERSEn is a small print at the bottom of the official website, where it's listed as Sony Music Japan & Helixes inc., with the latter apparently owning Maxilla who actually made the animated short with another company called Enishiya. I'm not really getting a clear picture on whose project this really is.

>> No.27209709

>>27209559
Absolutely baffling post. There is zero way that Cover or Anykara are running 'world class' 3D studios, you can't back this up with sources. Yes, setting something like that up in Tokyo would be very fucking costly, which is why it's almost certain they haven't done so

>> No.27209714

>>27209392
just to be clear but the company behind VSPO isn't Brave Group but Virtual Entertainment Inc. That would be the equivalent of Anycolor or Cover for them. Brave Group is the holding who owns them and also other vtuber companies.

>> No.27209724

>>27209392
>Fubuki nearing 10k
Last month she finished under 7k

>> No.27209761

>>27209593
https://www.loopnet.com/search/office-buildings/los-angeles-ca/for-sale/?sk=8e1cf84623ea334f89f3b6fe4dda68cf&e=u
>less than 1m office in la
ruru rumao

>> No.27209803

>>27209714
That's why I used Brave Group. Cover is not the one holding Hololive either in this context, it would be "Hololive Productions" with Hololive 3 branches and Holostars under it.
If AZkI was still on INNK I would have it separated from Hololive, but also under COVER

>> No.27209809

>>27209724
ff14 was less of a percentage of her output this month

>> No.27209826

>>27209761
Found one in 30 seconds.
>https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/178-S-Euclid-Ave-Pasadena-CA/26050925/

>> No.27209832

>>27209392
>shu overtook luca
interesting I remember Shu in the earliest months was the weakest wasnt he?

>> No.27209858

If Myth goes to JP for 3D .... then what will happen to ame studio ?

>> No.27209887

>>27209555
HoloEN medal breakdown for comparison

>HoloEN medal breakdown by gen
Myth: 141
Council + Hope: 112

>> No.27209903

>>27209858
>then what will happen to ame studio
Continue as is for her shitposting purposes?

>> No.27209915

>>27209858
It will be available for any side projects Myth/Council/EN3 want to record state side?

>> No.27209941

>>27209392
Tsuna, Reid, Tamaki and Gatchman preventing a "duopoly" in the top 50.

>> No.27209963

>>27209887
Ya know whats funny

Hope: 18

IRyS alone has literally double the amount of all the NijiEN female waves combined.

>> No.27209992

>>27209803
I would say that Hololive Production in't a company per se but a brand for all of their branches. Virtual Entertainment is a bit different to me because they were a separate company managing VSPO and now are owned by Brave group
>On June 7, Brave Group announced the acquisition of Virtual Entertainment Inc, the company behind VSPO!. [6] Although the business management department and system department will be integrated, the business operation will be operated independently with the discretion of each company as before. After this, Brave Group will be the holding company of Virtual Entertainment which will continue to manage VSPO!

>> No.27210005

>>27209392
Only Holo gens without anyone in the Top 50 are ID1 and ID2

>> No.27210013

>>27209858
For the future EN 3D project? My theory is management wants them to debut their 3D in Japan first before using it freely

>> No.27210021

>>27209559
Read your own post and think about what you said for a second. Do you really think that home 3d quality is worth 1 million fucking dollars? Or that Cover is shilling out that kind of money for home 3d set ups?

You're being reductive. Of course the 3D that costs a million dollars is in a whole different fucking league, so why make this irrational comparison? You can't be seriously suggesting that Cover and Anykara have spent millions of dollars more on their 3D studios

>> No.27210049

>>27208360
【最高同接勝利数】(2020.9〜2022.6)
ホロライブ21勝
にじホロ1引き分け

(2020)
9月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝
10月 ホロ28勝 にじ2勝 鳴神裁1勝
11月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝
12月 ホロ21勝 にじ10勝
(2021)
1月 ホロ17勝 にじ12勝 渋ハル2勝
2月 ホロ19勝 にじ8勝 774.inc1勝
3月 ホロ18勝 にじ11勝 花譜1勝 渋ハ1勝
4月 ホロ22勝 にじ7勝 犬山たまき1勝
5月 ホロ26勝 にじ4勝 しぐれうい1勝
6月 ホロ25勝 にじ5勝
7月 ホロ17勝 にじ13勝 渋ハル1勝
8月 ホロ16勝 にじ15勝
9月 ホロ19勝 にじ10勝 ぶいすぽ1勝
10月 ホロ24勝 にじ7勝
11月 ホロ25勝 にじ6勝
12月 ホロ23勝 にじ8勝
(2022)
1月 ホロ21勝 にじ8勝 しぐれうい1勝 NP1勝
2月 ホロ18勝 にじ10勝
3月 ホロ22勝 にじ7勝 NP2勝
4月 ホロ24勝 にじ2勝 NP4勝
5月 ホロ19勝 にじ12勝
6月 ホロ15勝 にじ15勝

>> No.27210058

9k DORYAAAAA

>> No.27210075

>>27210005
also, only gens with everyone in are gamers and holox

>> No.27210095

>>27209992
For this table purpose they go under Brave Group. If the other Sony properties get added to the tracking sites I'll likely also move VERSEn to be under Sony, despite a similar holding -> real company -> VERSEn situation may exist.

People understand what it means without the complicated adherence to the legalities of the ownership

>> No.27210150

>>27209709
>>27210021
>>27209559
Clearly, the set up that Ame is running must have cost 10 million dollars, since home 3D is obviously so much superior to what gaijin technology can achieve.

>> No.27210193
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27210193

>>27209392
>Kobo above Vox
>IRyS and Fauna above Mysta

>> No.27210195

>>27209652
As ive said they dumped Versen the moment they didnt get gura numbers since if they did sony would have actually pushed through with the anime, manga and other stuff

>> No.27210198

How the fuck did she get 9k for this Skyrim stream. Excuse me?

>> No.27210216

>>27210049
So niji didn't win July and August last year?

>> No.27210240

>>27210198
Actual natural incline

>> No.27210245

>>27210198
Faufau Inclining

>> No.27210260

>>27210216
Diddnt they win August with koshien?

>> No.27210310

>>27210021
>home 3d quality is worth 1 million fucking dollars
No, what I say is what they're quoting there in your link don't track hands or face.
>You can't be seriously suggesting that Cover and Anykara have spent millions of dollars more on their 3D studios
If the EU studio was quoting Kiara a hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single day of renting their studio you can likely imagine one of these two things

1) They're scalping because they have no competition, and anyone can enter their market and undercut them for less than a million
2) Having a working 3D studio is really expensive and the price they're asking reflect how expensive it is

One thing is for sure: if having a 3D studio of the same quality Cover and Anycolor have in Japan would cost under 1M to setup in the US TheGunRun (Vshojo CTO) would have asked for 12 million instead of 11 million
>7 million to operate VShojo as is
>some 5 million to make his wonder backpack
>an extra million to set up a 3D studio that would rival his two biggest competitors and that he could rent for hundreds of thousands of dollars per day he was not using

>> No.27210336

>>27210049
wait it thought they won august last year with that baseball thing?

>> No.27210348

How do we feel right now Lamysis bros? After Lamy gets back from her break, should she, Koyori and Fauna hold an ASMR collab together?

>> No.27210359

>>27210216
no

>> No.27210380

>>27210216
>So niji didn't win July and August last year?
>>27210260
>Diddnt they win August with koshien?
That nip list doesn't seem to include Hal for August, he took 2 days

>> No.27210431
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27210431

These shameless fucks actually raided an SC reading

>> No.27210438

>>27210380
Oh so thats why for a second there i thought that i jumped to another timeline again

>> No.27210455

>>27210198
the complete lamy slot
green lamy 5-8am
pink lamy 8am-12pm
lamy prime 12-5pm
all lamys have 8k floor during the lamy slot

>> No.27210459

>>27210431
natural incline

>> No.27210461

Where were you when Fauna became a 10k streamer

>> No.27210464

>>27210310
You can't rent out 3D studios in the US for 6 figures dude, best you can get is 2k a day, there is too much competition.
>https://www.animaticmedia.com/motion-capture
Top result off Google.

>> No.27210482

>>27210431
natural incline and whatnot
gotta look good for the investors

>> No.27210491

>>27209652
In fact, adding to this, I looked at some of the news sites reporting on the unveiling of VERSEn and they all probably got the Sony connection from that one mention on the website. Has Sony Music Japan officially promoted VERSEn anywhere under their own name? Or even mentioned them? I can't into nihongo so I can't look up if there are more hits in the nip web. It's weird that a party as big as Sony Music Japan would be involved, presumably funding VERSEn and contracting these impressive japanese studios to produce the short and then fail to even mention it to the massive audience that they have. How did anime news sites even find out about the project? Surely Sony tweeted it on their own platform somewhere.

>> No.27210516
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27210516

>>27210431
Fuck this "natural" incline
At least be prudent about it

>> No.27210517

>>27208979
*TOTAL POINTS*
Gold = 5
Silver = 3
Bronze = 1

>Gura - 229
>Vox - 172
>Mysta - 155
>Mumei - 113
>Mori - 78
>Ina - 63
>Baelz - 58
>Kronii - 58
>Amelia - 51
>Luca - 49
>IRyS - 48
>Fauna - 46
>Kiara - 38
>Ike - 38
>Shu - 34
>Yugo - 23
>Uki - 20
>Alban - 9
>Enna - 8
>Nina - 8
>Selen - 6
>Elira - 5
>Sara - 5
>Sonny - 3
>Petra - 1

>> No.27210528

Holy shit, it might be late for y'all but I just saw the announcement for Omocat x Hope/Council.
The last Omocat x Myth merch was in high quality so I have a lot of expectations for this one.

>> No.27210568

>>27210431
INVESTORS LOOK AT PEAKS!

>> No.27210570

>>27210491
>How did anime news sites even find out about the project?
paid shilling by sony im guessing

>> No.27210577

>>27210431
Has better retention than a lot of raids so why is it wrong? If most of the viewers stay why is it shameless?

>> No.27210612
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27210612

>>27210431
>raiding SC readings

>> No.27210674

>>27210570
I wouldn't put it past them, but they could've gained more exposure by putting up a mention on their own media channels FOR FREE.

>> No.27210677

Fauna's going to "raid" Mumei's waiting room.

>> No.27210700

>>27210677
lets see the retention

>> No.27210706
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27210706

* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 30Jun
> 11,553 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,180 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 10,199 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,446 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 7,397 : Kainen (EN Indie)
> 5,506 : Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 4,766 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 4,620 : Silvervale (EN VShojo)
> 4,612 : Trickywi (EN Indie)

1. Pretty close at the top, as Jing and Jururu streamed at the same time and split the 17-20k KR audience.
2. Shoto also played Valo with the boys.
3. Ironmouse played HoloCure
4. Kainen had a featured stream
5. iDrkTV finished their 24 hour stream, getting 400k watch hours from it alone.

>> No.27210744

>>27210700
it's pointless since the stream doesn't start for another 45 minutes

>> No.27210751

>>27210677
It is honestly disgusting how profit focused cover is. Raiding a fucking waiting room. Jesus Christ

>> No.27210762

>>27210700
it's 45minutes to go...

>> No.27210777

>>27210751
I can't tell if this is supposed to be satire

>> No.27210782
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27210782

>>27210706
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isedol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React
2) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isedol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React
4) Lilpa (Isedol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isedol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isedol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isedol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React
12) VIichan (Isedol) - 14,668 - Butter cover MV in VRChat
13) Ine (Isedol) - 20,357 - Zatsu - model expressions update
14) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,177 - 20 Minutes Till Dawn + Zatsu, Naver catchup
15) Jururu (Isedol) - 16,361 - Artery Gear: Fusion + Watching Waktaverse MVs
16) Ine (Isedol) - 13,021 - Continued Naver and clips catchup
17) Shoto (Indie) - 15,555 - Valorant with Vox
18) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,717 - Zatsu after group song recording
19) Ine (Isedol) - 18,622 - Zatsu after group song recording
20) Jingburger (Isedol) - 12,455 - Expressions update + Valorant + Poopy Parker
21) VIichan (Isedol) - 11,037 - Zatsu, React + Chivalry 2
22) Ine (Isedol) - 14,031 - Zatsu, VR Chat React
23) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,928 - Return, React - Naver and clips catchup
24) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 14,236 - Speak Of The Devil with Mori Calliope
25) Lilpa (Isedol) - 14,481 - Umamusume
26) Jururu (Isedol) - 13,871 - Reacting to the weekly WAK music top + Umamusume
27) Nimu (Indie) - 14,513 - Talking about the Ibai boxing event
28) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,006 - Zatsu, React + Unpacking
29) iDrkTV (Vibin’ n Thrivin’) - 22,166 - The Cycle: Frontier - featured stream
30) Jingburger (Isedol) - 11,553 - Valorant, Umamusume, Sims 4, Zatsu

>PER COMPANY
23x: Isegye Idol (Isedol)
4x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees, Vibin’ n Thrivin’, VShojo

>PER STREAMER
7x: Ine
6x: Lilpa
3x: Jingburger, VIichan
2x: Gosegu, Jururu, Nimu, Shoto
1x: iDrkTV, Ironmouse, Kris Yim

>> No.27210792

>>27210674
Yeah ive said that in the past threads a couple of time whenever verse comes up that a mention or even a cameo in one of sony's properties would actually skyrocket their numbers
But from what ive seen sony is just doing the bare minimum since they didnt get the numbers they were hoping

>> No.27210799

Did the Sana line hold?

>> No.27210825
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27210825

Here's what a real raiding looks like

>> No.27210828

>>27210677
It's cute how Fauna is into raiding now, but raiding a stream that starts in 45 min is ineffective to say the least. Should be still a pretty fat waiting room tho.

>> No.27210838

>>27210799
no

>> No.27210852

>>27210744
>>27210762
why did she raid it then

>> No.27210862

>>27210825
That viewer retention is genuinely beautiful.

>> No.27210877

>>27210751
If it was a NijiEN that raided a waiting room there would be ten sincere posts like that lol

>> No.27210887

Has Omocat done a NijiEN collab yet

>> No.27210895

>>27210528
I already plan on buying the complete IRyS set and probably a Bae T-shirt

>> No.27210897

>>27210852
Because she's going to be in the collab and figured why not.

>> No.27210919

>>27210825
God bless the Holobox, truly the strongest streaming organization ever.

>> No.27210925

>>27210897
>Because she's going to be in the collab
oh nevermind then

>> No.27210934

>>27210877
It's a collab she is gonna bbe in. Litterally no one would complain.

>> No.27210933

>>27210852
She's going to be in the stream later anyways and it's not the numbers that matter, it's the thought that counts.

>> No.27210936
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27210936

this is 40k stream.

>> No.27210943
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27210943

Jesus it went from 1.5 to this

>> No.27210957

>>27210852
Because the opening peak will look good for future VC founding rounds

>> No.27210973

What did Fauna peak at?

>> No.27210990

>>27210877
If vox would raid a waiting room for a collab that he's in i would still defend that faggot since its understandable

>> No.27210997

Fauna is really the number-friendly vtuber
>Raid the waiting room of the stream she'll appear on
>Only those who want to watch will stay
>Graph will not be a sudden Z with a nosedive 5 min later
>The holobox will help with the retention

>> No.27211009

>>27210838
Honestly just can Sana then. The Sana line was the only good thing she had going. Disgrace

>> No.27211013
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27211013

>>27209392
And here is the channels with 1k+ median.


1) 222 channels made the cut
2) Hal was the highest ranked not making into the Top 50 with a 7.3k+ median
3) No NIjiEN girl failed to make the cut
4) No HoloID girl failed to make the cut
5) (Former) NIjiID Mika made the cut, outranking Iofi
6) (Former) NijiKR Nari Yang made the cut, outranking Reine, Anya, Lain, Reimu, Mika and Iofi
7) 20 Indies made the cut
8) 7 from .LIVE made the cut, along with 6 from 774 Inc., 4 from Neo Porte, 3 from NoriPro, 2 from Sleep Monster and one from each .WACTOR, Virtual Cinderella Project, Unicreate, Buber, GuildCQ, VOMS, CloudHorizon, wethernews, RK Music, Sinsogumi and KEMOMIMI-REFLE!
9) Roberu made the cut with a 1.6k median,

and the punchline
10) IT FINALLY HAPPENED!
Both Pomu and Selen outrank Sana median this month, thanks to a combination of well chosen content and raids for the two NijiEN girls and a poor choice of game for 3 out of the 5 Sana streams.this month (Metroid Dread)

>> No.27211021

>>27210877
I remember seeing Mysta say he and Luxiem were going to raid Finana's birthday party stream after their 6 month anniversary stream was over to show her support, but I was confused because it ended like 6 hours before Finana's stream. Maybe they raided her waiting room?
I remember wondering if Finana was going to get a 30k birthday stream because of Luxiem raids lmao.

>> No.27211020

>>27210936
I think Hololive might be the only one using the raid feature right. Like, raids will definitely work if the raider actually appears on the raidee's stream. The twitch-style raid is too volatile and not as effective.

>> No.27211033
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27211033

>>27210973
She was still climbing

>> No.27211046

>>27210517
*MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO EARNED A SINGLE POINT*

>HoloEN
Sana

>NijiEN
Pomu, Finana, Rosemi, Millie, Reimu, Fulgur

>> No.27211066

>>27210997
Every in a year or two she can become close to top tier holo she continues this pace. Please don't have a break, Please don't have a break, Please don't have a break, Please don't have a break, Please don't have a break, Please don't have a break

>> No.27211070

>>27210825
Not even the Koreans have viewer retention that high, and all they do is sit and swap between the same streams all afternoon.

YT definitely cucked that stream of its actual raid peak.

>> No.27211078
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27211078

Nijinigger status?

>> No.27211088
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27211088

>>27210936

>> No.27211091

>>27211013
>roboco and matuli outranked sora and mel
meru meru...

>> No.27211101

>>27209858
A janky (but probably serviceable) mocap studio to do 3d recordings for shitposts and short-form content. Which is frankly something that many of the JP girls can't put in their homes due to space issues, but they don't need to since they can just take a train to the studio (but EN can't really except Mori/IRyS)

>> No.27211106

>>27211066
>Please don't have a break,
The only thing that'll probably give her like a month-long break is if her cat dies, really. She tends to take 4 day breaks every so often to unwind and then come back strong.

>> No.27211123
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27211123

>>27211013
>Passed the Sana line
Oh gre-
>with raids
nvm
>Sana with debuff game
sis...

>> No.27211130

>>27210792
I just don't see the logic, even a stupid logic, to it.

>> No.27211131

>>27211078
obliterated

>> No.27211132

>>27210310
Okay, let's walk through this logic for a moment. Assuming that Home 3D is middle of the road in cost with Cover's set up naturally being far more robust, a set up that costs 200k per person which should be the bare minimum would still be far higher than anyone is realistically spending on it. If we assume that home 3D must cost 200k dollars, or be equivalent to that tier of equipment cost, then it's not out of the range of possibility that Cover's 3D studio is more than a valuation of a million+ dollars.

Even with that assumption, whether it costs 200k or a million dollars to set up, it is still a price that Cover can afford since they're already paying that much for all their talents and for making their current studio set up. Assuming that a studio of this level of quality can be reasonably charged for at around 5 figures, since it's obviously a higher level of quality compared to other lower budget operations, then it would pay for itself in 100 days of renting it out, assuming you can't profit off of it any other way

>> No.27211189

>>27211130
theyre just basically waiting for the girls contracts to expire or quit but they have to make it look like they made an effort to promote them but in a way that it doesnt directly tie back to sony

>> No.27211214

>>27211132
>it is still a price that Cover can afford
Of course they can, I don't think that was ever in question.
They can afford the workforce too and it would pay for itself if they were willing to rent it out and there were demand for it.

It is just a dumb idea because they can do it much cheaper much closer to home and much closer to 13 out of the 20 girls that would benefit from it.

>> No.27211239

>>27211013
>Pomu 3969
Would Pomu have had a 4k median if she hadnt ended her last stream of the month ten min in and restarting so she had two extra streams below median instead of one?

>> No.27211255
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27211255

>>27211013
Nari Yang is cute and deserves her numbers!

>> No.27211260

>>27210936
>>27210943
Waiting room raids are a good method for advertising streams to normal people who don't autistically scan twitter or know about esoteric resources like holodex.

>> No.27211276
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27211276

>>27210782
Not making anything fancy, here's just

>June Twitch month end chart

1.5k + average viewers.

Tops:
Ine for Average (13,090), Max viewers (22,248), Peak Median (15,167) and Peak average (15,896)
Ironmouse for Hours Watched - 1.123 million hours, only one over 1 mil
Tororo (JP Indie) for Hours streamed - 289
Shibuya Hal for number of streams - 61

There might be others for the stream time, but i just tried to keep track of 1k+ this month.

>> No.27211283

>>27210828
How is it ineffective? a staggering amount stayed even though it's still 30 minutes out

>> No.27211287

>>27211189
Cover, please, Itsuki in gen 7...

>> No.27211312
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27211312

>>27211013
>Only JP under 4k (and under 3k) is Mel
Ganbatte Meru-sama! Did she wrap up her RM affairs or she's still walking the slack line?

>> No.27211329

>>27211013
Bae please get your shit together next month. This is pathetic.

>> No.27211341

>>27210431
>This is the natural incline some nijiENkeks are touting

>> No.27211375
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27211375

Ina's back is becoming a hot topic on Twitter right now. Jesus fuck, it's hot.

>> No.27211386

>>27211283
It's ineffective from a "Youtube will instaverifty the users and carry them over" perspective and the entire thing has to go through Youtube's waiting room verification for all the users. AGAIN.

>> No.27211401

>>27211013
WTF, Haachama that high? What happened?!

>> No.27211400

>>27211013
>The Sana Line got breached
This is the maginot line being breached.
Correct month too..

>> No.27211411

>>27211375
I've never seen a back focused like this

>> No.27211421

>>27211375
I gotta say, takodachi, your oshi really have such a nice backpussy

>> No.27211433

>>27211375
Ina is a godsend for Assfags.

>> No.27211443

>>27211329
More Mori collabs!

>> No.27211454

>>27211401
Not a lot of streams, and the ones she did were collabs and things that did well in numbers.

>> No.27211466

>>27211411
That's a combination of her back and ass, everything stems from that legendary arm wrestling stream.

>> No.27211477

>>27211443
That's literally better than playing that shitty fucking VN while overlapped into some JP stream literally no one cares to watch because it's in JP and in asscrack o'clock

>> No.27211495

>>27211454
15 streams is a lot. But yeah, the collabs

>> No.27211494

>>27211341
If you honestly dont think Pomu has inclined check her Numbers from May before the raids and compare with like feb. And compare that with november. And compare that with August ect.
2k streams were uncommon half a year ago

>> No.27211517

>>27211443
fuck that
I want more bae roberu action

>> No.27211563

>>27211375
it's truly amazing. I need to see the numbers for ina art before and after the arm wrestling stream.

>> No.27211605

>>27211477
She won't get JP watcher if she keeps putting her stream against Pekora stream.

>> No.27211621 [DELETED] 

>>27211013
>89 Selen
>91 Pomu
>98 Sana
Jesus fucking christ. What a fucking embarrassment. HoloENs that gets below nijiniggers should get fired on the spot.

>> No.27211646

>>27211312
i think she might be done with most of the rm affairs but you need to check with the gen just to be sure

>> No.27211657

>>27211329
>gets ambushed by holomyth offcollabs
I don't think she could have had worse luck

>> No.27211688

Even though both Niji and Holo tie for gold this month, it doesn't feel that good for Nijisanji, does it?

>> No.27211689

>>27211605
Maybe Bae simply doesn't understand these aspects of stream planning and holoEN being the trash fire that it is had no one to explain it to her.

>> No.27211752

>>27211688
It's because they blew a substantial lead

>> No.27211763
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>>27209392
>>27211013
And here is the whole shebang. There is not a lot to be said here other than was said in prev months

1) 25 tracked channels are on 2 digits
2) Two (former) Niji ID relapsed into 2 digits
3) Natsume Mei is the escapee of the 2 digits hell with exactly 100 as her median. Sorry Riria Hikari, 3 digits is for grownups
4) Most of the 2 digits are vsen, ProPro, ReAct and, of course, VERSE

and the punchline
5) No VERSEn escaped the 2 digits hell, with Kagase Uno almost making it out with a 95 median

>> No.27211786

>>27211689
i thought the reason why she got jp hours was due to school stuff and being in australia?

>> No.27211796

>>27211688
What are you talking about?
We make holokeks seething so we feel super good man.

>> No.27211842
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>H-Holokeks are seething
Hey
10 - 2
11
39

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>>27211763
>Uno under a 100

>> No.27211884

>>27211763
>No VERSEn escaped the 2 digits hell, with Kagase Uno almost making it out with a 95 median
And with the new sony chuubas sucking their remaining viewers next month they might only get half of what they got this month unless a miracle happens

>> No.27211891

>>27211688
they became just like Ferari in F1, shooting their self in the foot and pretend it's all part of the master blan to make holo seethe

>> No.27211893

>>27211786
There's JP hours and then there's overlapping with fucking Pekora.

>> No.27211923

>>27211495
Oop, misread, 15 is a decent amount I was looking at somoene else.
But yea, it was the collabs.

>> No.27211938

>>27211796
>we

>> No.27211956

>>27211842
Don't forget
>>27023522
>kobo comeback beat vox comeback, and only by 1 point difference

>> No.27211972

>>27211689
She has a competent manager in many aspects, but this one is the baffling one.
Is she unable to start an hour or two earlier for her JP streams?
Like right smack dab in JP PRIMETIME is THE WORST for those sorts of streams.

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>>27211956
How did I miss this

>> No.27212069

>>27211972
someone should tell her to try the 6pm jst slot when it's empty, it happens more frequently since the green menhera exploded

>> No.27212127
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>>27211763
I'm beginning to accept that there is no happy ending for the VERSEn chuubas. The only thing I can do is mourn them.

>> No.27212130

>>27211013
after all those raid only 2 manages to pass sana, embarassing

>> No.27212132

>>27210461
Not sure if saplings just hang out here because their general is so dead it doesn't exist half the time, but need I remind you that she's only this high because Ina is on break? Honestly the endless Fauna shilling here is tiring. I cannot wait for her numbers to crash once she's not streaming in an empty slot.

>> No.27212155

>>27212132
you can't fool me faunaschizo

>> No.27212195

>>27212127
some anon mentioned a few threads back that a birthday of one of the chuubas is coming up so I might actually check her out

>> No.27212226

>>27212127
>there is no happy ending for the VERSEn chuubas
there is one, and it's called jp7

>> No.27212227

>>27212132
It's still interesting that she can hit high numbers though. Like when she got 10k with minecraft despite overlapping kronii who also had 10k+. It means that people WILL watch her if there's nothing else to watch, when the same really can't be said the same for the aussies in Council unless they get actual funnels.

>> No.27212234

>>27212155
It IS kind of insane how much Fauna has been mentioned in /#/ this month. It wasnt until the end of North tallies that I realized that Mumei was still far ahead of her lol. By just going by this thread you would think she was second in HoloEN after only Gura

>> No.27212244

>>27212132
>crash
I think she has a lot of new fans. Before I'd always pick an Ina stream but it will depend more on what they are doing now for me.

>> No.27212272

Arguably one of the biggest Minecraft content creators on YT died,
https://youtu.be/DPMluEVUqS0
This may have an influence on MC numbers on the short term

>> No.27212273

>>27211842
>>27211938
Keep seething holokeks
Your tears are delicious

>> No.27212281

>>27212227
people always shit on waiting room chuubas because they get shit numbers when overlapped and have bad ceilings but it's honestly better than being the only one on and people just refusing to watch you

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27212290

>>27211763
>>27209392
>>27211013
And here is for a fan favorite, the "international" table.
This month along with HoloEN and HoloID, NijiEN, (former)NijiID and (former)NijiKR and MAHA5 as usual there is a new addition
>MyHolo TV

Here is the table
>pic related

and a couple of comments

1) Gura continues living in a different plane of existance with a 24k+ median, double the second place for this cut
2) 7 channels made it to 10k+
3) Selen and Pomu, as observed before, finally breached the Sana Line. They also are only outranked by 2 Noctyx and not by much
4) Moona outranks both Zeta and Kaela
5) Risu is sporting a healthy 2k+ median this month
6) Nari Yang as the breakout talent from (former)NijiKR
7) HØRI 07 from MyHoloTV outranks every MAHA5 and every NijiID except Mika, Hana and Bonnivier
8) Reimu outranks Mika and Iofi
9) Fulgur and Sana are right next to each other, with Sana on top

and the punchline
10) Kobo is the second highest ranked of this cut, outranking Vox and everybody else not named Gawr Gura. Her 12k median is very impressive considering it is no longer a "debut buff"

>> No.27212297

>>27211013
Nari more popular than Reine, Anya, Reimu, Mika and Iofi wasn't something I thought would happen before

>> No.27212308

>>27212272
Dream died?

>> No.27212311

>>27212234
Going from a 7-8k to suddenly pulling 10ks would shine a spotlight on people. She'll go back to being "irrelevant" when Ina and Gura come back. I do feel bad for archive sapling though

>> No.27212330

>>27212272
HoloStars EN?

>> No.27212338

>>27212272
one less tard among the SMP gang I guess, yay

>> No.27212363

>>27212272
Cancer is a bitch, specially for people that young.

Anyway, should livestream his funeral, would get big numbers

>> No.27212375

>>27212330
dead dead

>> No.27212390

>>27212290
Is Shu being nr 3 in Luxiem a lasting thing?
Always thought he was the runt of the litter

>> No.27212394

>>27212272
Oh well, best of luck to him

>> No.27212406

>>27212297
>more popular
Don't confuse median of peak CCV with "popularity".

>> No.27212413

>>27209095
They were never competitive numbers-wise in the first place, Luxiem was just an anomaly but it feels like the males stunted the growth of a lot of the girls
Selen and Pomu at least deserve way better

>> No.27212420

>>27212272
holy shit technoblade actually died, that's fucking huge

>> No.27212423

>>27212272
Good luck in his next life.

>> No.27212442

So pretty much everyone who left Mumei's waiting room came back or got replaced

>> No.27212455

>>27212290
>Fulgur and Sana are right next to each other, with Sana on top
ぐへへ

>> No.27212471

>>27212272
I remember him because/#/'s used him to shitpost on his CCV, likes, VOD views etc compared to EN

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>>27211276
Oh, 1 funny thing i wanted to point out.
Mizuki ended up with a higher average than peaks median and average.

Due to her 3 most viewed streams also being way longer than usual.

>> No.27212489

>>27212272
rip and fuck cancer
this is a buff content for dream though so he might incline

>> No.27212533

>>27208360
So ... Let me get this straight ...

>Salome, the latest Niji sensation, literally carried the company behind her back
>Nearly reach mainstream news due to her once-in-a-life-time achievement as a JPVtuber
>Proof that the industry is still alive and well
>Defying /#/ logic and rationality for half a month, making anons scratching their combine single braincell trying to explain her numbers
>Riku's Magnum opus of ACCELERATION taken to the most extreme efficiency

And even with T H A T, they still couldn't secure a win?

Oh, and by the way, does anyone still remember how people meme about "NijiEN has too much event streams" the last few month?
Look at Holo golds this month:
- Full HoloX 3D (6 golds)
- NoeFure 3D (2 golds)
- HoloEN offcollabo (2 golds, with fucking Bonebros no less)
- Watame 3D (1 gold)
- Mio 1 mil (1 gold)

The only 2 golds that are not tied to any kind of 3D/Event is Shuba and of course, fucking Pekker

So yeah, Hololive used the exact strat NijiEN used, except they won actual fucking golds with it, not cripple gold (And without raid/mountain graph/ other shenanigans, too)

>> No.27212536

>>27212489
Capitalizing on your friend's death from cancer might be a tad bit scummy even for my standard

>> No.27212546

>>27212272
Kind of grim that the first thing you see in the description is "BUY MY MERCHANDISE"

>> No.27212547

>>27212442
I mean, the initial bump was 1.3k or so to 8.4k which dropped to 7.5~ then started inclining slowly for the last 20 minutes

>> No.27212551

>>27212489
yeah, thats why I said it might affect Mc numbers, the algo gonna buff everyone on the topic

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>>27212009
what is that disgusting ogey

>> No.27212565

>>27212281
That's also the beauty of the box. Being the 2nd of everyone isn't the worst thing when it also raises your ceiling for events and other things in the long run, but it does mean you get hurt pretty bad on overlaps.

>> No.27212569

>>27212226
Anon, you have to let it go. It's over.

>> No.27212596

>>27212557
it's the OG kobogey

>> No.27212598

>>27212290
>Fulgur and Sana are right next to each other, with Sana on top
THEY ARE

>> No.27212618

>>27212481
Can't wait for her "big sister" debut

>> No.27212620

>>27212536
it's fucking dream, no one would be surprised at this point, and if he actually got shit for it, his fans would forgive him

>> No.27212622

>>27212375
Oh.

>> No.27212646

>>27212272
I'm sorry, what the fuck?

>> No.27212655

>>27212406
what is popularity then

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https://twitter.com/kuji_st/status/1542432766968619009/photo/1
More Hololive x Lawson collab

>> No.27212671

>>27212646
he had cancer for a while, i think he lost an arm at some point

>> No.27212676

>>27212533
I know where you're going with this but there are events, and then there are "events". HoloX was going to get 3D eventually, every month has some holo's anniversary or birthday if they CHOOSE to hold a special stream for the occasion, and they don't milk these things for more than they are worth.

>> No.27212686

>>27212620
Yeah, I have zero faith on kids these days

>> No.27212689

>>27212533
if its holo doing, its fine

>> No.27212699

>>27212669
Is this the sushi place?

>> No.27212722

>>27212689
JP = Good
EN = Bad
Especially the NijiEN kind

>> No.27212731

>>27212272
Literally who? Is this some low tier Niji male?

>> No.27212742

>>27212722
now you're getting it

>> No.27212743

>>27212533
Anon, for fuck sake, NijiEN events that got spammed were
>522k celebration
>First unarchived karaoke

You’re really comparing that with
>a whole generation of 3D debuts,
>Gura’s anniversary / 4M celebration / first “3D” (all mashed up in one stream)
>the first full off collab by myth
and comparing with NijiEN “x00 milestone celebration”?

>> No.27212748

>>27212533
>- Full HoloX 3D (6 golds)
Funny thing is I remember most of the HoloX 3D is not on the same day as Salome's.
If they did they could probably took some gold from salome.

>> No.27212759

>>27212533
theres a difference between an actual even like a birthday and a pre pre birthday celebration karaoke event

>> No.27212779

>>27212731
come on man, you're on /#/ and you don't know about the people that have gotten 1M ccv at some points for fucking minecraft

>> No.27212780

>>27212533
Anon.. did you actually write a paragraph comparing "550k pre celebration" to actual 3D debuts?

>> No.27212803

>>27212742
agree holo is trully a black company

>> No.27212810

>delayed again
RIP numbers

>> No.27212821

>>27212533
actual events vs milestone celebration spam part 1 and 2 seriously

>> No.27212830

So Salome's success can now be attributed to everyone suffering Pekora withdrawal.

>> No.27212832

>>27212290
>Fulgur and Sana are right next to each other, with Sana on top
SASUGA

>> No.27212835

>>27212290
>Council > Myth
kek

>> No.27212839

>>27212810
They have more in the waiting room than Bae and IRyS peaked...

>> No.27212854

>>27212272
holy fuck..

>> No.27212862

>>27212533
comparing pre-celebration xxx subs to 3d debut? you got to be joking

>> No.27212866

Hololive knows when to take gold and when to lay low. This is the textbook definition of using Sun Tzu's Art Of War to the fullest in business.

>> No.27212872

Oh hey noor
How's your whores and fag doing?

>> No.27212886

>>27212779
Nope

Is he some lame ass twitch streamer? I don't watch those fags.

>> No.27212892

>>27212330
>>27212375

NTA but fucking hell, I'd be lying if I say that didn't crack me up

Also:
>>27212394
>>27212375

>> No.27212901

>>27212290
no wonder Noor pushing for raid

>> No.27212927

>>27211375
This was supposed to be Reimu's meme nijibros.....

>> No.27212929

>>27212272
That video was pretty brutal, made me tear up even though I have no idea who this guy is.
Insane views though which makes me wonder what the numbers would be like if a Holo died. If say, Marine committed suicide or died after a botched surgery and there was a memorial stream where you'd get to see Sankisei bawling their eyes out live, I wonder how many views that would get. Would it break records?

>> No.27212938

>>27212731
holy newfag

>> No.27212944

>>27212272
Nobody gives a fuck. Fuck off with your off topic shit. Do you want me to start posting the daily sports scores. You fags who insist on posting non-vtuber stuff are even bigger faggots than any shit poster ever has been.

>> No.27212960

Come on now anon, I know some of you might have some disdain for Dream SMP group
but the man is dying from cancer

>> No.27212976

>>27212960
Not dying.
Dead.

>> No.27212987

>>27212830
I mean nousagi being numberfag is not a meme
You are talking about a fanbase that spam SC and Twitter celebration every time Pekora get another 10k sub without her mentioning it

>> No.27213023
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Kraut is a Takodachi, another win for Hololive

Caption: RDDTR

>> No.27213024

>>27212830
pekora withdrawal and actual tourists

>> No.27213031

>>27212929
Not like Marine never ask Pekora what they would do if she died

>> No.27213056

>>27212987
Something something fanbase reflects the talent kek. Gotta give it to them though, shows dedication.

>> No.27213076

>>27213023
Oh wow, I didn't expect him to watch Hololive. His style of content is wayyy different than vtuber.

>> No.27213105

>>27212676
>>27212743
>>27212759
>>27212780
>>27212821
>>27212862

Guys, guys
I know that comparison was retard
I'm not saying those "Events" hold the same weight either
But it just funny to me

>> No.27213111

>>27212929
>I wonder how many views that would get. Would it break records?
triple coco graduation numbers

>> No.27213141

>>27212987
I'm sad she reached the last two milestones whenever I was sleeping, I couldn't do my proper reps with a screen and a「ぺこちゃん XXX万人達成おめでとうぺこ!」...

>> No.27213143

Anyone noticed that Korone reference in Techno's last video?

>> No.27213150

>>27212929
>If say, Marine committed suicide or died after a botched surgery and there was a memorial stream where you'd get to see Sankisei bawling their eyes out live, I wonder how many views that would get. Would it break records?

You have a higher chance of Michael Cat doing that desu

>> No.27213151

>>27213105
>i was just pretending to be retarded

>> No.27213195

>>27213105
It was a dumb comparison, the nonsensical nijiEN celebration streams vs the entire Hololive roster where the ratio of events to normal streams is even smaller than in nijiEN. Hololive is so big that they can't avoid constant event streams even if they tried.

>> No.27213202

>>27213023
Kek

>> No.27213253

>>27213141
Jesas anon you guys are dedicated, I kneel, all I do is go into Mikochi’s freechat and shitpost with other 35ps using spacha, like writing out みこち好き etc.

>> No.27213257

>>27213150
Well she's not technically part of Holo anymore so I wasn't sure there would be any streams by Holos if anything happened to her. Although she's definitely more likely yes.

>> No.27213289

>>27213195
>Hololive is so big that they can't avoid constant event streams even if they tried.

Anon, if you notice, some Holo golds this month are against Niji 3D as well, so Niji have no excuse

And "Hololive is so big" is not a good reason when their direct competitor have like 3x amount of talents

>> No.27213312

>Delayed again
That's how you know this is a Mumei stream

>> No.27213333

>>27213150
No one would cry for her, especially after what she did
Might as well kill Miko

>> No.27213386

>>27213333
>Might as well kill Miko
Yes please.

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>>27213333
CURSED QUADS
BEGONE FOUL CREATURE

>> No.27213414

>>27213333
agree would finally end the blight that is cover

>> No.27213419

>>27213056
Last week I left Pekora stream for a while and comeback to a wall of akasupa. I know something was up because nousagi never SC in the middle of the stream.
Turn out it's just them congratulate Pekora for reaching 1.96 million sub

>> No.27213452

>>27213143
What?

>> No.27213485

Salome has a chance of beating pekora to 2M, but at the same time, you'd also think it's weird that she gets that subs yet the other members in her company aren't getting a huge boost in subs too

>> No.27213529

>>27213485
Really just depends who youtube is recommending after a salome stream, I've never watched so I have no idea.

>> No.27213544

>>27213452
Guy was petting a dog the whole time, and the dog bit him at the finger

>> No.27213549

>>27213485
Salome has no chance of getting to 2m before Pekora or Marine, her subgrowth has slowed dramatically and even reaching 2m will be a trial for her

>> No.27213590

>>27213529
At this point Salome seem to be more favored by the algorithm. Pekora was never the type to get recommended much (Except her Discommunication Alien cover)

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>>27212290
>>27211763
>>27209392
>>27211013
Now, here is the full table for the "true average" of CCV.
To remind, it is the same formula to calculate the average within a stream, except done on all streams of the channel stitched up as if they were one.

There are not a lot of differences at the top or at the bottom in comparison except some localized moves like
>Ryushen, Chaika and Suo Sango shooting up due to special streams
>Reid and Hal dropping down due to high peak low average streams
>Tsuna moves up due to debut buff granting her long streams of high CCV

Next the international version of this table, where the most relevant changes happened between the median of peaks and the true averages

>> No.27213752

>>27212671
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1Q1ouemVA

>> No.27213811

>>27213620
Even with Salome, it doesn't bring the company up. At the least Kuzuha made several people along with his wife, kanae, to become popular. Without him, kanae and toya, it'll probably be hard for the other males to be recognized. The other males got carried by good models.

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Damn all this talk got me thinking of when the first Holo does die on the job. Statistically it will happen at least once. I think in all likelihood it would just be an announcement, maybe a memorial stream nothing as gaudy as a virtual funeral unless they/family really wanted that.

>> No.27213967

>>27213823
It did with NijiCN aka VirtualReal

>> No.27214076

>>27213823
if watame dies her fans will too

>> No.27214112

>Stream offline
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.27214117

>>27213823
Ironmouse

>> No.27214133

>>27213967
Wait what? Who? I used to kinda watch them but I stopped following VirtuaReal because Bilibili was cancer to use, never heard of someone kicking the bucket though

>> No.27214134

>>27213023
Ina is the ideal NEET asian gf, I totally get it.

>> No.27214207
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>>27213620
And here is the international version of the true average table.
Some very relevant changes happen here, likely caused by NijiEN use of raids and Luxiem early peaks and not stellar retention

1) Not only Kobo, but Mumei and Kronii also outrank the top Luxiem
2) Mysta overtakes Vox
3) Mumei overtakes Kobo for #2
4) Moona outranks every NijiEN girl
5) Only Vox and Mysta remain at the Top 10
6) Finana shots up and outranks Rosemi and Nina
7) No Noctyx outranks any Council
8) Only Selen and Pomu out of the NijiEN girls outrank Nari Yang
9) Iofi stays as the only HoloID not to break 1k+, lapsing into 3 digits

And the punchline
10) In this metric not only the Sana Line remains unbreached but Bae falls below it

The average shows a very different picture of the peaks here and it is good that both metrics can be tabulated now

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So will this boost views or lessen them

>> No.27214237

>>27214076
>if watame dies everyone will too
ftfy
t. watamate with access to topol

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>>27214207
The idea that an ID is on top 3 of the international CCV Average list is really funny

>> No.27214293

>>27214207
>Mysta overtakes Vox
nice

>> No.27214334

>>27214227
It's a loop so lessen them

>> No.27214338

>>27214207
>Finana shots up and outranks Rosemi and Nina
this kinda feels like a trap in the making

>> No.27214369

>>27214207
>Sana line holds the moment you use a metric which favors actual prolonged viewership and retention instead of peaks
kek

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Imagine a vt getting hit by this. Is this why streamlabs is banned for Hololive?

>> No.27214445

wait what the absolute fuck is wrong with en this week???
https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1542700336808198145

>> No.27214461

>>27214369
Eh, Sana got buffed this month due to b-day stuff, but balanced it with debuff-as-fuck metroidshit..

>> No.27214465

>>27214415
nah, it's just banned because they can't use it 100% legally, only 99%
even YT encourages creators to use stuff like that

>> No.27214481

>>27214415
Bro, ID use Streamlab

>> No.27214503

>>27214415
id uses streamlab if i recall

>> No.27214534

>>27214445
The fuck you mean "Wrong" ?

>> No.27214536

>>27214415
It's one of the reasons that Cover was against it yea.
Charge-backs on YT are handled BY youtube instead of having to wrangle with CC companies and paypal, even if YT takes a cut, it's worth not having to deal with issues like....this.

>> No.27214537

>>27214207
Fucking hell Bae.

>> No.27214572

>>27214415
jesas... I’m guessing Google insulates you better from this right? How the fuck do you even do this, transfer a fuckton then contest the charge and cost the recipient the fees? If so, how do you get to screw someone out of this much?

>> No.27214573

>>27214534
Their actions haven't been normal

>> No.27214579

>>27214415
Hololive doesn't use Streamlabs because Cover is a coward and they're scared of Susan's wrath.

>> No.27214603

>>27214445
She's shilling Irys new song too

>> No.27214614

>>27214481
>>27214503
Yea, that was because SCs weren't available for ID until just this week so Cover accepted that it was needed for them. I don't think they'll backtrack now for HoloID, but it is what it is.

>> No.27214617

>>27214207
Reminder that if your EN oshi doesnt have better numbers then Sana then they're fucking irrelevant losers.

>> No.27214618

>>27214536
>>27214572
Superchats is un-refundable

>> No.27214622

>>27214445
>implying they’re any different normally
huh?

>> No.27214654

>>27214573
Post-of-fcollabo nut still haven't wears off anon
Let them be

>> No.27214687

>>27209392
>>27211013
GO SUISEI

>> No.27214692

>>27214614
Sadly now if they release ID4 they probably not gonna have SB nor SL. ID3 already abandoned SL because they have SB for local viewers.

>> No.27214696

>moom 15k

>> No.27214701

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oDOFsos48
Kobo is peak entertainment

>> No.27214713

>>27214617
bae..

>> No.27214738

Easy 15k?

>> No.27214750

>>27214207
Mumei is Gura lite so it makes sense

>> No.27214793

>>27214701
man sea comedy is weird

>> No.27214856

>>27214701
Fucking full on bad bitch alpha stacy energy

>> No.27214867

It's not numberrot to point out that Bae's numbers are bad, because she's being measured by the bar set by other hololive members. Matsuri gets shit for her numbers, so why not Bae?

>> No.27214918

>>27214867
Mating press.

>> No.27214924

>>27214750
Their collabs do extremely well too, I wish they'd do more stuff together (like that room review).
I think Gura likes her a lot actually.

>> No.27214934

>>27214867
Bae was just stupid unlucky this month with overlap

>> No.27214980

>>27214924
Gura is a narcissist so it makes sense.

>> No.27215004
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>>27213620
>>27214207
And here is the table with the same metric, but per branch.

1) HoloJP continues reining supreme, with an **average** of over 10k (true average, not average of peaks, not average of averages)
2) HoloEN is holding themselves well this month, having a very close average of 9,1k
3) NijiJP keeps a healthy 4.1k
4) NijiEN and VSPO are ahead of the 3k line
5) VapArt (carried by Met), Neo Porte and HoloID are over the 2k line
6) Honeystrap, Animare and .LIVE are over the 1k line
7) Riot Music wasn't grown up enough to clear the 1k line
8) VTA this month *almost* beat 1k average. They seem to be inclining
9) (former) NijiKR, carried by Nari Yang, outranks the Holostars

and the (sad) punchline
10) VERSE is at the bottom of the list with an average barely over 50.

Can Sony even salvage this company or they'll dismantle it and scatter the chuubas?

(btw, tomorrow I may do the "boys only", "girls only", "unsharked", "unbraided", "top 34 Niji" subsets)

>> No.27215025

>>27214980
lol

>> No.27215056

>>27214856
All blue women are like that

>> No.27215081

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmE_ujikl5w
Looks like Ame is having fun with her home setup

>> No.27215084

>>27215004
>>Can Sony even salvage this company or they'll dismantle it and scatter the chuubas?
at this point theyre just waiting for the contracts to expire

>> No.27215093

>>27215004
Is NijiKR incling the moment they drop the KR a coincidence or?

>> No.27215101

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/169359445/updates-to-reduce-comment-spam-and-impersonation-on-youtube?hl=en
Is this their attempt at solving the bot spam? Kinda weak.

>> No.27215165

>>27215004
>Only 362 hours total streamed this month from the whole HoloEN branch
Damn. HoloID with slightly lower number dobule them, and even Kaela is neutralized by the likes of Risu who rarely stream herself.

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>>27215004
And here is per company. It's a little bit different from the usual

1) COVER at the stratosphere
2) Anycolor follows
3) Neo Porte and Brave Group (which gobbled up VSPO) are approx the same average
4) 774 Inc. completes the Top 5

>> No.27215241

>>27215101
>Limiting the type and/or frequency of special characters in channel names
LMAO so this was their master plan or removing the crypto/robux/minecash channel spam
BRAVO SUSAN FUCKING BRAVO

>> No.27215258

>>27215211
Why didnt Cover buy VSPO

>> No.27215266

>>27215101
>No longer allowing channels to ‘hide’ subscriber counts
kek, lots of shy midgets will seethe when their shame is aired to the public

>> No.27215335

>>27215258
>Why didnt Cover buy VSPO
Brave Group CEO is pals with VSPO CEO and saw a potential there.
COVER wouldn't benefit from acquiring and onboarding a branch used to (actually reliant on) mixed gender collabs into Hololive when they can simply scout and debut

>> No.27215372

>>27215004
what were last month's numbers for this

>> No.27215431

>>27214618
A chargeback isnt a refund.

>> No.27215449

>>27215004
I hope versen chuubas at least gets paid. If its the normal cuts, they are screwed

>> No.27215457

>>27215211
It's funny to me how the Hololive roster is only half as big as NIjisanji yet the median from Hololive is twice as high.

>> No.27215480

How the fuck did Verse fail so fucking astronomically bad? It's actually embarrassing.

>> No.27215523
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>> No.27215525

>>27214867
Bae is being retarded with rushing headfirst into massive overlaps.
She also got overlapped by off-collabs while doing one of the worst week ideas for numbers ever conceived by an EN member.

You just KNOW she is going to overlap Gura during her return with Holocure, like good god PLEASE someone teach this girl how to numberfag.
Literally all she needs to do to incline is to stop overlapping others with buff streams to build up an audience and actually do fun/creative streams like she did in Febaery instead of some JP shit.

>> No.27215533

>>27215480
sony dumped them the moment they didnt reach gura numbers

>> No.27215535

These are pretty good numbers for the Mumei/Fauna duo.
You guys think holocure has helped them a bit?

>> No.27215570

>>27215535
Honestly anything below 30k doesn't excite me anymore.

>> No.27215573

>>27215525
>do fun/creative streams like she did in Febaery instead of some JP shit.
All those "FUN" streams outside of the GFE one was literally reliant on her collabing with other people

>> No.27215575

>>27215480
Sony didn't understand that streamers aren't like other products and need to either foster communities over long periods of time or attach themselves to other communities, there is no such thing as a streamer who just cold debuts into massive numbers they are always taking someone or somethings momentum.

>> No.27215611

>>27211646
Hard to say honestly, it does seem she is gradually weening off of NND but not sure if she will ever fully depart from it as a platform. Meanwhile she is using a new 2U site for her new RM endeavors which involve interviewing and doing RP skits with famous VAs. It might not be as amazing as Fubuki and Laplus interviewing Hollywood stars but Mel is starting to make inroads with some very prominent JP actresses.

>> No.27215614

>>27215575
Salome

>> No.27215653
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27215653

>>27215523
Jesas just use the english one.

>> No.27215672

>>27215611
Thats good to hear and im happy mel is branching out to different areas

>> No.27215681

>>27215614
NIji has worked for half a decade to build up a community and audience and enough clout to even get eyes from other communities so even any random from niji will get some eyeballs. Every niji success now is a result of mito's original momentum.

>> No.27215689

17k dorya

>> No.27215698

>>27215480
sony is an evil company

>> No.27215764

>>27215698
Fuck off /v/

>> No.27215777

VerseN and Vee are pathetic to look at honestly. Sony just can't do vtubing at all.

>> No.27215787

>>27215764
Anon.
Two words
KAGUYA
LUNA

>> No.27215792

>>27215611
Mel networking is honestly amazing. Already saw her talking on her RM twitter with like a fuckton of seiyuus from Love Live, Im@s... it's a shame she never really inclined with her Holo account.

>> No.27215821

>>27215777
remember they still have 40 more debuts left

>> No.27215828

>>27215535
yea i was not expecting 17k, even considering the buffs
maybe the offcollabs and holocure did help reigniting interest

>> No.27215836

>>27215653
No fag, JPs are winning do I'm using the JP one. And if you can't recognize at least 30% of the most prominent names in Katakanas then fuck off.

>> No.27215844

>>27215792
Alas, getting bitchslapped by YT and her split RM/Holo activities have hampered any real chances of long-term growth.

>> No.27215850
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27215850

>> No.27215891

>>27215836
You will never be Japanese.

>> No.27215935

>>27215836
Fuck off mate, this is /vt/ not /jp/. Even if I do know who's who, use the english one or fuck off.

>> No.27216070

>>27215850
A whole month off+ a few days here and there off and still at the first position. My knees are shattered.

>> No.27216079

>>27215653
>even shitters like Roboco and Aki average 5 fucking k
Goddamn I kneel to Holobronies

>> No.27216154 [DELETED] 

>>27215211
How is the number compared to May?

>> No.27216160

>>27215850
>47
uh, am i missing something?

>> No.27216174

>>27215653
>188.3 hours streamed
jesas

>> No.27216218

>>27215004
How is the number compared to May?

>> No.27216245

>>27216160
Starting from the first of January anontachi.

>> No.27216289

>fauna and mumei together is a buff
>bae and irys together aren't
why? they pushed that ship for months

>> No.27216399
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27216399

It's ridiculous how fucking numberrotted this thread has become as of late. It's like you people have completely lost any sense of scale when it comes to what the average streamer on Youtube and Twitch gets for viewership, even 3views is enough to live off of, 1k is enough to be in the top 1% of all streamers, and 10k is enough to consistently be in the Top 20 on Twitch. Even streamers Youtube poached from Twitch like Sykkuno and Ludwig can't get 20k on most days, enough to be in the Top 10 on any given day. The goalposts are constantly moving so that no matter how much you get, 20k, 50k, 100k, it's never 'good numbers' unless its to shit on someone else's number, and even then it's just to serve as 'proof' that every other number is 'bad numbers'

It's retarded how seriously you idiots take daily gold when you're measuring metrics that don't matter, that have been proven again and again to be unreliable data. Call it 'Cull Cope' or 'VoD Cope' or whatever you like, but everything from mountain graphs, Zs, raids, and the abundance of available data for other metrics like total views and hours watched that have actual monetary impact, all of it discredits CCV from having any kind of legitimacy. Getting genuinely or even ironically invested in a horserace over numbers with no real world relevance that aren't even accurate is probably the dumbest waste of time I've seen outside of dedicated shitposters, who just spam on cooldown 18 hours a day and maybe pay actual money on the means to ban evade and samefag harder.

And don't pretend like only shitposters care, they wouldn't show up to pretend they're retarded if there weren't already actual retards here to blend in with, some of you people actually do let the numbers live rent free in your head. Even some Stars are 4views now while there isn't a single VERSEn who isn't a 3view or even worse literal 2views, the entire streaming industry is in recline this year(picrel), and yet Vtubers as a whole are still growing somehow. So stop caring about who has gold, accept that things are good and they're getting better, and cure your damn numberrot already.

>> No.27216401

>>27216289
They were overlapped

>> No.27216417

18k DORYAAAAA

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27216456

Finanakeks doxxed kronii in the catalog lmao

>> No.27216515

>>27216289
Overlapping with Kronii is always not fun. Mumei and Fauna individually are also stronger than Bae and Irys individually.

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>>27215850
>Oniwhore streamed as much as motherfucking AZKi over all this year
Yeah graduate that ATMsucker, AZKi deserves much more than her.

>> No.27216522

So a lot of people have brought up the idea of a Hololive gacha game before but what kind of gacha game do you think it should be? I personally think a rhythm game similar to Project Sekai or D4DJ would be the best. Hololive has the music for it and they can even include a lot of their cover songs which there are a ton of. I would love to play that game.

>> No.27216562

>>27216456
Holokeks are telling lies again.
What a surprise.

>> No.27216621

>>27216399
on last thread some said, this is competition to prove who is the superior and shitting on the low numbers

>> No.27216626

>>27216399
ogey

>> No.27216653

>>27216399
I tried insisting for a few weeks epsecially after CCVID to abandon CCV altogether in favor of weekly vod views but the various schizos in the thread have grown great attachment to them and the people here just to poke fun don't care what the metric is as long as they can bait said schizos and collect yous.

>> No.27216673

>>27216522
https://resisty.itch.io/gachalive

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>>27215004
>10) VERSE is at the bottom of the list with an average barely over 50.
Tanigo-san, Kson, Even Riku...
Somebody save them pls

>> No.27216778 [DELETED] 

>>27216562
It got deleted immediately retard but still doesn't change the fact nijiniggers doxxed her

>> No.27216788

>>27216653
>VOD views
/nasfaq/ is already better at that. This is the horserace thread

>> No.27216787

>>27216289
Why are you trying this? You know Mumeis stream got raided. You know BaeRyS was overlapping an EN off collab.

>> No.27216808

>>27216653
Anon, there's already NASFAQ for VOD view horseracing.

>> No.27216812

>>27216399
okay fulgur say hi to sana for me

>> No.27216840

>>27216399
Anon, it's just for fun. The numberrot just came along with it, it unintentionally makes livers and other vtubers aside from holos seethe. This thread's existence is to make people seethe.

>> No.27216854

>>27216788
>>27216808
anon is a newfag

>> No.27216860

>>27216653
>weekly vod views
this thread would just die

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27216862

>>27216673
First 10 pull and got a 5 star Rushia, lmao

>> No.27216871

>>27216456
>doxxed
Anon, those screencaps and accusations are in this board for the longest time.

People posting it don't realize the criticism thrown over Finana is not about what she is, but about her trying to tell people what they can or can't say based on sensitivities.

>> No.27216876

>>27216808
Oh I didn't know that I thought that was just some meme /biz/ thing and not tied to numbers. Legit never looked at the thread more then once when it first dropped.

>> No.27216891

>>27216787
>Mumeis stream got raided
?

>> No.27216909

>>27216653
because you are a retard and nasfaq exist

>> No.27216918

>>27215850
Pink dog almost 1000 hours I kneel

>> No.27216938

>>27216854
If we already have NASFAQ, why is there a need for #?

>> No.27216945

>>27216787
yeah, by fauna, an hour before the stream even started

>> No.27216947

>>27216653
>being this new

>> No.27216956

>>27216854
I'm sure he came here because he saw that many of the baits in the catalog were from /#/

>> No.27216998

>>27216938
same reason why there are split threads for niji talents even though nijien exists

>> No.27217022

>>27216938
this
>>27216621
it start from some nijinig shitting on holo's low numbers 2 years ago

>> No.27217031

>>27216938
>need
There is no need. It is nice to have a place so hated trying to finding ways to kill it lives rent free in people's head, so it is kept alive if for no other reason, for that one alone

>> No.27217038

>>27216938
To keep NASFAQ from being flooded with our schizos. This thread only exists to contain the shitposts from seething antis, there's no other point to our existence

>> No.27217042

>>27216938
>Being this retarded

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>>27216621
Why yes it is

>> No.27217101 [DELETED] 

10-2 lead, damn hololive pulling a real madrid.

>> No.27217108

>>27216876
NASFAQ is the real numbers thread. This is just a decoy, there wouldn't be a need for /#/ if everyone here were just permabanned.

>> No.27217135

>>27217022
>>27216938
I agree numbers only serve to propagate lies and falsehoods against nijisanji and nijien with fake screenshots and graphs

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>>27216947
>>27216854
>>27217108

Been here since Akari/Eliene on /jp/ the first iteration of fake coin trading was just people shitposting and open trading their perceived values of the girls so I never bothered to look at that shit more then once. I guess I got general brain rotted and didn't bother exploring other threads like the old days. rumao at me thinking this was the only thread for so long

>> No.27217194

>>27217155
>Been here since Akari/Eliene on /jp/
sure you were discord tourist

>> No.27217208

>>27216399
Chill out Fauna and pay attention, to the stream, you are going to miss a ghost

>> No.27217238

>>27217194
Yes I was i even the ryona poster about Kurumi when she got vanned from vtubing. I just never bothered looking at nasfaq because it just looked like a discord circle jerk from afar.

>> No.27217251

>>27217155
Ah yes the classic i was only pretending to be retarded

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>>27208360
Hololive pulled a real madrid.

>> No.27217262

>>27216945
Surprisingly Fauna’s redirect seemed to help the stream quite a bit.
I thought most people would leave since it was originally 45 minutes away then got delayed another 30 but a huge portion stayed.
It really seems like advertising a stream helps especially since I bet most people just come in if they happen to see the notification or YouTube recommends it.

>> No.27217309

>>27217238
same im the one who first posted suisei in /jp/

>> No.27217326

>>27216289
they unironicaly need mori to work

>> No.27217355

>>27217155
you lucky asking this not on SEA hours, otherwise that thread will flooded with shizo and shitposter, we already doin good job to conceal it from them

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27217401

>>27216673
Just noticed this in the description

Migo...

>> No.27217495

>>27217355
>not on SEA hours
but sea hours is all the time though

>> No.27217520

>>27209392
I'm surprised that streamers aren't on betting apps yet like sports. I want to put money on Hololive getting gold next month.

>> No.27217534

>>27217355
The recent happenings also helped a lot since intern kun has been hoping from thread to thread

>> No.27217582

>>27209392
>9) Notable absences are Hal (which missed the cut) and Mito (which didn't stream even once in June)
Did you forget about Aqua and Marine?

>> No.27217588

>>27217355
SEA here
I never leave

>> No.27217626

>>27217520
I mean there are some dedicated horseracing numbers sites for kpop if you search good enough

>> No.27217641

>>27217520
>bet 100k on X streamer
>Unironically bot X streamer for $11 dollars
>win
anon?

>> No.27217663

>>27217495
mostly they come to /#/ nearing jp prime time and leaving after jp midnight

>> No.27217678

>>27217626
>searching for loop
Big gay

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27217690

>>27217401
WE DID IT after about 38,000 yen

>> No.27217693

>>27217355
im still convinced that the recent shitposter is a spic due to his shitposting hours

>> No.27217775

>>27217663
the new guy is/was active after jp midnight though

>> No.27217781

>>27216289
BaeRyS is probably third or fourth place for popular council ships not to mention all of HoloEN (Takamori/AmeSame/InAme/AmeTori/Bonebros are more popular).

>> No.27217884

>>27217693
Yeah that one is either a spic murrican europoor or ruski from his activity

>> No.27217908

>>27216876
They already have the VOD view numbers ironed out. It even has UI-rape who is probably the largest indie. The only reason not to check their numbers for playacting VODs is if you’re a nijinigger…

>> No.27217954

>>27217781
The harem of Ame

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27217975

>still no response to this from Hololive today
ruro rumao another Salome gold even when she's taking it easy

>> No.27218000

>>27217908
It's brought up over and over again how no one talks about Nijisanji here, but ironically this is probably the thread that discusses them the most outside of its dedicated general lol

>> No.27218036

>>27217975
meh
has been

>> No.27218045

>>27217975
Migo playing holocure have a chance anon.

>> No.27218070

>>27217975
you are holofag stop falseflaging for self grudge post

>> No.27218089

>>27217975
Yeah salome really lost her value once she got exposed by pekora,

>> No.27218111

>>27218000
This place talks about anything and anyone, from unknown indies to VSPO and Isegye, which have no presence outside of their own countries.

>> No.27218116

>>27218045
she only play it one hour, before jump to watch along on twitch

>> No.27218132

>>27218070
there are a lot of holofag falseflag here because they try to pass fake news like bots

>> No.27218161

>>27218116
Enough to get a 50k and then gone, a perfect start to the month

>> No.27218202

>>27218111
i get hooked by Riot music girls from this thread

>> No.27218205

>>27218116
Pekora holocure peak number is within the first hour anon.

>> No.27218204

>>27217975
jesus she reclined that much i would not want to see her numbers 3 months from now

>> No.27218279

>>27218204
more curious with her numbers when collab

>> No.27218389

>>27218000
some anon from here actually got me interested in ange

>> No.27218414

Salome's self-contained nature is not only pulling her numbers down, but it doesn't even affect any of her co-workers in Nijisanji.
I don't understand how a company can get someone like Salome and then not actively try to court her new audience to watch other members.
This is probably the most wasted chance in vtuber history, alongside Rin and Hana.

>> No.27218521

>>27217975
It's still far from JP prime time. Are you new or retarded?

>> No.27218522
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>>27212272
How can vtubing even compete bros

>> No.27218527

>>27218414
she was never expected to become that huge that fast

>> No.27218564

>>27218414
I still believe that Salome was meant to be a joke, before Riku was shocked by the number she gave him during her debut and early weeks.

>> No.27218573

>>27218522
He has death buff, that's why.

>> No.27218582

>>27218522
by not dying to cancer

>> No.27218587

>>27218414
It's the nature of nijisanji. There is no such thing as cooperation or mutual growth in nijisanji, the concept of 'leeching' was coined because that's how it works in that company and how its seen in that fanbase, Salome's fans even attacked Malissa on her Graduation stream for overlapping Salome

>> No.27218607

>>27218414
I feel like Nijisanji is an expert at wasting chances, they've had so many chances and yet have not capitalized on almost just as many.

>> No.27218632

>>27218522
Anon, shitposting using a dead man's previous numbers is in poor taste.

>> No.27218716

>>27218522
Unironically think hololive minecraft roleplay could get them this numbers

>> No.27218724

>>27218632
this is a 21 shitpost salute since it provided us with prime shitpost material

>> No.27218747

>>27218522
By being alive.

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