/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous: >>27061478

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

IMPOSTERS AMONG US edition

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL:
- Maps!

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS SEX WITH SQUIRRELS

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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
>Superstition/Folklore
What sort of superstitions/folklore do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?
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>Special
We are making a /vtl/ team! Here are the current suggestions:
https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Feel free to suggest and add to it!

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everybody you know is Ri2ner in disguise

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>>27130303
Eh, would /meat/ chuubanite really cause antibiotics to be made? I thought it's more about accelerating biological functions than anything. If anything, on healthy lifeform it would encourage growth and healing rather than the opposite. One /meat/ chuubanite use mentioned is that it increases your resistance to pathogens, but I think it works through your existing immune system than anything directly against the pathogen themselves (for one, otherwise it probably won't work against virus otherwise).

>>27130597
Personally I'm not too sure about /meat/ pathogen being stronger due to the above although I'm not too against it
If that's the case, though, it would suck a lot more for people who got raided by /meat/heads back then tho

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder. If /nasa/'s rep bitches one more time then he's banned from the project for two weeks.

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>>27134621
If you make this post one more time I'll impregnate your balls.

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>>27134638
don't threaten me with a good time

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>>27134638
how does one impregnate balls?

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>>27134659
Where have you been? We've been over this in excruciating, soul-grinding detail.

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please do not make ballsack pregnancy a staple meme
the last thing I want to see is a vtwbg divegrass player with the 'Testicle MPreg' tag

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>>27134710
ive been here i just missed this discussion apparently.

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>>27134282
I wrote a thing! >>27131126

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>>27134857
>>27134174
Forgot to say this needs to be posted in cross-thread between /nasa/ and /risu/, fuck!

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>>27134654
ywn get to cuddle your malewife's scrotum as he carries your child inside his testicles

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>>27134837
Yeah, I reckon having big ballsacks in a game that's all about kicking a ball would be a bad idea

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horny femanons were a mistake

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>>27114598
anon I'm still waiting for you to explain that spoiler

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>>27135002
horny femanons are top tier SEX with the exception of rose senpai

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>>27134857
OOH LET ME SEE THE THING! LETS GO

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>>27135002
there are women here? god

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>>27135002
Don't pin this on the femanons, they post about normal pregnancy

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>>27135250
then who started the whole mpreg fetish chain?

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>>27135276
Rosesenpaii did

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>>27135322
This is why i suck his cock on demand

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>>27134551
your body naturally produces antibodies, that is a natural function of the immune system. /meat/ chuubanite would accelerate the production of those antibodies when they are in use to fight against infection, but it would also regenerate the infection. that was my reasoning.

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>>27135389
*malepregs you*

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>>27134659
>>27135322
>>27135276
It was an anon with some questionable feelings for his childhood friend.
>>26980007
Dunno which gen he's repping for

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>>27135132
Its a rentry in the linked post. We just pulled up to Risuner's camp.

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>>27134551
then it's not really antibiotics to begin with
More or less, yes, since /meat/ chuubanite accelerates those biological functions, and odds are pathogen would be able to benefit from any /meat/ chuubanite they can get as well. I guess that might be another reason why the disease resistance magic is done in the form of chuubanite tattoo/scar, since the glyph patterns would allow the effect to be concentrated in specific part of the body (for example, your lymphatic system, so that your immune system benefits the most from the effect without also boosting the pathogen too much).
I suppose that does mean if a foreigner caught a pathogen that's currently being boosted by /meat/ chuubanite, the infection would be worse than their more mundane counterpart. Not sure how long the effect will persist once the pathogen's outside /meat/ though

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>>27135496
im gonna need 10 minutes everyone ill see you all later

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>>27135830
oh my
Risuner friend is getting fertilized by Roseanon

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We have officially reached /infinity/ levels of horny

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You thought it was Rosesenpai, but it was i, POMERLANE ANON. Thats for impostering me!

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>>27136206
I know it wasn't Rosebud, my rosebud doesn't do the weird nijidejen stuff. He just rapes elves, at worst.

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>>27135035
Fuuchan was in an accident a few years ago that almost killed him. He survived, obviously, but it left him bedridden for a while and permanently fucked up his spine and left with a whole host of other disabilities and health issues -- tremors in his extremities, neuropathy, etc. Early on the pain was so bad he apparently considered medically-assisted suicide. He's doing a lot better these days, but it still wouldn't surprise any of us if he just suddenly dropped dead. This is also why comfydants are all such massive saviorfags.

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>>27136569
Are we talking about irl? I can relate myself with my near fatal car crash.

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>>27136284
holy shit Pomerlane anon was playing Rance all along!

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>>27136745
Nope.

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>>27136689
Yup. It comes up on stream from time to time, like he has a standing desk because his spine issues don't let him sit for very long. He had to abruptly end stream early once because it broke, and after sitting for like an hour his voice was noticeably strained from the pain. He bonded with ironmouse over both having totally fucked central nervous systems. His vtuber persona having artificial limbs + a metal spine was clearly not a coincidence.

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>>27136983
Damn I can relate, i got a rod in my leg and arthritis at 26. Cant work out properly because of it. I respect mousey because of my own parents and now me. Fuuchan has my respect too. Aint easy talking about this kind of stuff..

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>>27136206
I mean, your files always have a specific naming scheme so it's not too hard to figure out when it is and isn't you posting.

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>>27137305
Meanwhile Rosebud is a fellow 4chanX chad. Cool filename Rosebud.

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im back and less horny than i was. how is everyone? Also fucking wait the spacemen drove up to us?

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>>27137305
Duh, was an obvious false flag shitpost.

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>>27137479
An obvious imposter, this reminds me of something...

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>>27137258
man i wish we had at least one mousefren in the thread (I don't know what any of the vsj+ guys are called)

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>>27137461
They're here, they have a cool horse-less wagon.

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>>27137461
Yes we did in a horseless wagon. Impressed?

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>>27137549
yeah thats really fucking cool. I will make sure to mention that.

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>>27137518
Mousey got me into vtubers but I dont even think they have fanbase names.

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>>27137549
Desuvius will probably think it's steam propelled and wonder where the boiler is.

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>>27137518
just go to /vsj/ and ask
a vsj anon laid down some basic lore months ago

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>>27137928
>just go to /vsj/ and ask
do NOT do that

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>>27137518
Another day, another chuuba I love that doesn't have a rep in /vtwbg/.
>>27137928
Please don't...

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>>27137928
I'd rather just go through the archives and repost that then rattle another hornet's nest and risk adding a nyan or mousecunt ot the list

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>>27137665
Sadly its not strong enough to carry all the Risuners. So we still have to walk on the way there. Now there is a way for Risuners to enter Universe Square of Lammington Station at least. However it requires Risuners to take a "test". Now the only thing Risuners have to do is spit in a dish and wait a few days. Same with Deadbeats or any native that wants to enter. Universe Square is the most clean and sanitized public area. Its also at the entrance so it can be isolated quickly.

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>>27131671
I swear to God if you were the fucker posting about throwing the Principal out because he allegedly fucked a robosan, I will skin you alive! That shit was one of the main reasons civil war arc started in the first place. One more reason to not fuck the squirrels I guess.

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>>27137813
I hate to break it to you. There is no steam engine or any combustion engine for that matter. And no he can't take apart the buggy.

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>>27138792
Hi there. Do you want to go on an adventure to the coastlands?

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>>27138872
>And no he can't take apart the buggy.
Just don't leave him alone with it.

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Just as a side note, /rose/ will be revealing itself to the rest of the world after I complete the Rosebuta rework. I'm really looking forward to interacting with everyone!

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>Pomerlane anon is too passionate
Thats right! Ill grind your nuts into dust if you imposter me again.

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>>27138585
just how bad are the mousecunts?

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>>27138949
Not with you, no.

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>>27138792
No.
i was the one who proposed cyborg uteruses
hehe

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>>27139321

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>>27139082
this is not how you treat nuts

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>>27139321
of course it's the horny squirrel who came up with that idea

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>>27137813
>Desuvius
who?

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>>27138961
Well, with the current leadership, he better be prepared to get shot on the spot and thrown in a ditch if he tries anything with it.

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>>27139441
It wasn't even me it was the OTHER horny squirrel. Can you not handle the power of risuners?

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>>27139484
The Risuners' rodent-wrangler.
>>27139562
Well yeah, that's why he won't do anything unless he's left alone with it.

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>>27139581
You power is screaming "SEEEEEEEEXXXXXX" and so far it has been in ineffective.

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>>27139581
It's one thing trying to fuck everything that moves
but cybernetic vaginas turned into appliances? thats just too much bro

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>>27139716
Idk at this point I like the uterus dispenser more than the testicular pregnancy.

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>>27139660
We have an all seeing AI, he won't be alone for a moment while he is at Lamington.

T. Cunt that just ran out of Sana pics on his phone

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>>27139792
Good. These aren't threats, this is advice. Yall have to be diligent about protecting your technology, otherwise it strains the suspension of disbelief that nothing leaks into other nations.

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>>27139716
pussy is pussy. although the best pussy is on squirrels in my opinion. and the only thing better than pussy is rose senpais cock impregnating my balls

Ok enough horny time to write the nasa log. All I need to do is find a random fucking name for their leader.

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>>27139792
>T. Cunt that just ran out of Sana pics on his phone
I gotcha Sanalite

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>>27139918
Do what I did for our names. Search up "common aussie names" and scroll down the list.

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>>27140074
i do random indonesian name generator kek

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please! no more ball impregnation or testicle preggo or any variation of it!

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>>27140181
Impregnation by Nose

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>>27140620

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>>27139153
Then fire your rep and get a new one.

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>>27139064
Hey Rosebud, I had a special Rosebud question:
What would be the long term objective of the liberated Rosebutas who find themselves on /morig/, based on the information you have.

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Genuinely dont know how to react to rose even though its in our backyard. Its fucking weird that they interact with holos more than nijis…

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>>27139079
mousefrens(mouselets?) are fine but they bring nyacolytes wherever they go.
I dont trust nyacolytes.

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>>27141377
To be fair, I was the sole Niji in a thread full of Holos for months before you guys flooded in.
>>27141076
I'll write a full answer for this in a second, just replying to let you know I'm not ignoring this. Currently busy with other stuff.

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>>27141561
I still do not know what to do anyways since I am not in current time, have current time made, or have any plans.

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>>27141561
Sorry for just watching you flail around on your own (with that quilldren anon every once in a while) for so long. I get extreme anxiety about posting anywhere I haven't lurked for half a year.

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>>27141561
saved art. sexy rose senpai

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>>27141769 (me)
I shouldnt let the rest of the world interact with Rose while their neighbors are stuck in my TL

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>>27141769
Just work your way through the years, it'll work out as long as you keep Rosebud in the loop, since we don't have anything on the rest of the Nijiland.

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>>27141561
Aight, I will await your answer excitedly. Also, cool rosemi.

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The buggy is going to be under 24/7 watch. Also I don't know if Lt. Boner has impact wrenches needed to take the machine apart.

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>>27134174
Luknight Expedition to /risu/, Entry #6

Our journey to Kenkerto is complete, but not without one final hiccup. Our proud armor seems to have been too heavy for the Risuner paths, and Sir Sucre caused a minor cave-in that got him stuck from his waist down. Winardi and our other Risuner guides tried to help pull him out, but it took the help of another, strange-looking Risuner who had already been in the hole. Winardi said this was a mole-Risuner, and that the squirrels and them don't talk much. Curious, nanora...

The Kronies of Kenkerto aren't truly that different than us, nnaaa. The local Risuners actually thought we were a new type of Krony when we first arrived. They seem to love clocks and are much less guarded about exchanging 'nuts' with the Risuners.

Our gifts of candy pleased the Kronies, nanora, but did not wow them as they had the Risuners. I suppose part of that is we did not expect to be meeting a second people, but it seems they have already been making their own sweets (though not as well, or as magnificently as our Hime's loyal subjects)

Loyalty to Luna,
Sir Saccrhin Plumdrop III

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>>27144524
oh shit added to my list probably tomorrow. The meeting of the cave dwellers is going to be a fun one. And yeah.....luknights discovering kronies are as horny as risuners must have been a culture shock. Not everyone is as "pure" as luknights kek

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I'm wondering how close /nasa/ is to making their own festival of sheep. The games are done. We might have found a way to get our chickens to race. KFP chickens are very hard working. The festival games are done. The sheep themed treats are done. Sheep shaped cream puffs, watermelon slices and punch, sweet fluffy breads, and sweet kettlecorn. Has Luknights have kettlecorn before?

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>>27134174
Report on Deadbeat LABEE, Entry #6

Nasedina, a mining town, and the last Lunaito settlement before the mountain divide. The Deadbeat engineers watched with amazement at the efficiency of the mines. Luna Chuubanite "lampposts" are scattered around the mines, which candify the rocks and dirt we can't use.

Shige, Gaia, and most of the Soldiers have gotten along well with the hard Lunaitos of Pick and Lantern that make up most of the population. Cinnama may be a little disheartened at how well they enjoy freshly-mined, totally unprepared hardy candy, but he'll recover.

Still, some of our guests are uneasy. Some of the researchers and engineers feel the mining tunnels would make all too great a habitat for a giant mythical Morijian snake. Worse still, one of Puffison's students has confided in me her nervousness about a possible Deadbeat vulnerability to gummy lichen. Citrora, Akira, and I assured her that gummy zombification is far too slow to catch a Deadbeat unawares, even if they were vulnerable. Visting Zomrades have been known to detach offending limbs, collect replacements from their personal luggage, and eat the gummified body part.

Still, gummy bear or gummy horse attacks are always risk traveling the mountains and north. Our squadron can take them, but for diplomacy's sake, conflict must be minimized. We come equipped with salt cannons to desiccate the gummies if needs must.

Your glorious frozen north awaits, Himesama,
Lady Noravera Jaggery

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Looking at the map in >>27112673, I'm wondering about the placement of Hyakumantenbara and whether it might be better suited where Eden is, considering migration. /dsw/ is still a thing, incidentally.

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>>27145726
That's a good question nanora. I think the answer would be yes, as it would only require drizzling sweet sauces on popped corn, which is easily possible at even bronze age tech levels, and with Lunaito love of sweets, they'd find it quickly. Though corn has to be imported, so I think most Luknights may not have had it before.

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Lunaito worldbuilding is primarily done through estimations as to what resources must be spent to accquiring all known sweets.

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>>27145914
We have a menu, we have activities, we have games, we even have a lottery for giveaway prizes. I think we're ready to kick this festival off.

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>>27146145
"Your dessert recipes, nanora. Now"
>>27146164
LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Sorry for the delay, ever since the storm my computer has been... Uncooperative to say the least. At first it was a rare crash, but things have been getting worse. Responses may be a tad curt due to aggravation.
>>27141769
>>27141988
It should be fine. I imagine you can just work on modern times when you get to it.
>>27141819
It's okay, I understand how that sort of thing goes.
>>27141076
>>27142515
Their long term objective would initially be to return home, but there's a good chance they'll eventually come to the conclusion that things have changed too much. They've been gone for many years and they've become far too different compared to a normal Rosebuta due to everything they've seen. With that knowledge, after some time since they wouldn't come to that conclusion right away, they might try to form their own new faction of Rosebutas dedicated to the mass cleansing of schizos. Not all of them might accept this and decide to try and make the long trek home anyways. Not sure how well that makes sense, I'm pretty out of it. I hope that all checks out.

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Well. I pulled a usual "me" move and decided to read up on /nasa/ shit and forgot to write. So I will post it tomorrow after my morning shift. Later everyone.

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>>27146362
It maybe late, but I'm happy the Luknights in /nasa/ can celebrate their festival of sheep.

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>>27146461
Rose senpai.....I wish i could hug you

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Idea for a story:
Bunaitos get together an buy a boat to travel to a magical land full of pigs in the far south... It's /rose/

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>>27145770
F-fucking zombie gummification? Jesus, the Himedom wildlife doesn't fuck around. From the sound of it, gummification seems to target necrotic tissues more, but thankfully Deadbeats are fully alive, despite appearances. So they'll be about as vulnerable as standard humans... Still scary. I have to work that in, pretty wild.
And I mean, yeah tunnels and snakes go together hand in hand. That's why you never build your catacombs too straight and narrow, lots of twists and turns slow the snake down.

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>>27146461
Oof, mystery surge damage, that sucks... If something got fucked up, it would probably be your PSU, but don't quote me on that.
>Their long term objective...
Oh... Oh, that's gold Rosebud, that's gold. As always, thank you!

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>>27146682
Yeah, I thought it was kind of dark, but I wanted to have gummy animals in the Himedom somehow

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>>27146479
Good night. Hopefully the thread is still here when you get back.

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>>27145866
>>27112673
Wait, why does Pomerlane anon keep ignoring the borders of nations like /ahoy/ in his maps? Not one of his schizos, but it's starting to feel intentional at this point.

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>>27147455
He has an agreement with the /2434/ rep, so I don't feel as strongly for that part (though it should go through a vote too), but the borders for /ahoy/ should be corrected. I don't think it affects his work particularly anyway, from what I've enjoyed reading of his stuff.

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>>27147455
looks like he took a chunk out of nijimale too

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so, after i came up with the idea for the mushroom, i noticed that /meat/ should have a lot more biodiversity than what we've described so far, and also that speculative biology is just worldbuilding in biology instead of physics. not to say speculative biology isn't part of world building, but i wasn't sure how well my interest in one would translate to the other. anyways, while we were still discussing the impact the mushrooms would have on our society, i came up with another, completely separate idea. i suppose it's partially inspired by the guy who mentioned nurgle, though i would like to point out that i brought him up all the way back when i wrote about mai-chan's blessing.
anyways, one problem with the idea i had is how it evolved, but /meat/ chuuba makes evolution go faster, and nature finds a way, so i figured as long as i explain how it works, everything else can be explained by a combination of mutation and natural selection. i'll write the idea in it's own comment so that we won't need to include the full conversation, but feel free to make any suggestions if you want.

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>>27148054
basically, the idea i had was darwin wasps, but unfertilized eggs become hives that also serve the purpose of producing and fertilizing eggs. one of the two predominant sexes of these wasps is replaced by a parasitic mound of flesh that intertwines itself into whatever it is parasitizing that can be used to produce more eggs to be injected into other organisms. the hive uses /meat/ chuubanite to keep the host alive and capable of fending for itself for the most part, and produces a strong, bitter/spicy scent (and flavor) that is supposed to keep predators away, mark its territory, and inform other wasps of the location of the hive. it also has the slight ability to make its host more susceptible to suggestion, but this effect does not always work, and can be undone with the use of certain medicines, making it unreliable.
the main advantage of a moving hive is that it can be used to gather resources passively, as the eggs that the hive produces can be a source of food for the wasps if they lack the resources necessary to survive, with the host itself as another option if that should fail, but also because the wasps can access more environments to "invade". the wasps are highly territorial against other wasps and will fight to the death to kill enemy wasps and their hives, but the wasps will be passive against most other organisms as long as they don't threaten the hive, since they could make for a potential new hive. this conditional passivity applies to the host itself.
if the host is not made more susceptible to suggestion by the hive and goes on to threaten the hive in any noticeable way, or alternatively if the host dies, the wasps will eat the host and start anew. this leads to a more r selected reproductive strategy. if the host, or nearby organisms do not appear to be a threat to the hive, the wasps will go about their business as usual. regardless of whether or not the host is under its influence, it will still feel pain from having a bunch of wasps crawling around in it as the hive slowly burrows itself deeper into its insides to maintain its production of more eggs, but it might be better at ignoring and living with that pain as a result of the increased suggestibility.
a particularly strong willed /meat/head could make use of this by intentionally infecting themselves and entering enemy territory, as the wasps will protect the host from things that threaten the hive. the scent of the hive can also be used to reduce hostility to the hive at the cost of making other wasps go completely irate, but this won't stop the hive from defending itself. another way of making use of the wasps is to smoke out the hive and transport it in enemy territory, but this is less reliable and has a higher likelihood of either backfiring or failing due to the wasps being incapable of defensing themselves until they are back to normal conditions. the wasps retain any natural weaknesses that wasps have, including a weakness to smoke or gas-based weapons, but they also can't reproduce without a hive, which requires a host to live.

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>>27148099
So what animals do these wasps infect? Humans are obvious but what about others? Can the nests survive under water or direct sunlight? Wasps are known to die from heat.

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>>27148568
we already have a few animals described in our rentry, but basically, any animal that is of a good enough size to be a hive, though some will be better hosts than others.

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>>27148568
we already have a few animals described in our rentry, but basically, any animal that is of a good enough size to be a hive, though some will be better hosts than others. i'm thinking anything larger than a guineapig is a good option, but i'll have to wait for others to see if i want to change or scrap any aspect, or the entirety of this idea.

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>>27148808
I was thinking some cold-blooded lizards could work. Either that or monkeys. Sure it'd leave the monkey an outcast of its tribe but the monkey would have a defense against predators. Hell you might even get a troop of wasp monkeys that prefer being infected.

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This is utterly autistic but... Somehow it's inspiring me. Maybe the relevant sections can give ideas to councilfriends. https://youtu.be/vrKI26QtCzM

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Question for Luknights: Would you be okay if the visiting Risiners joined the Festival of Sheep as well?

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>>27148973
i was thinking of lizards, too, but i wanted to use words that 1) could be generalized and 2) were directly linked to animals we knew existed in our ecosystem. monkeys is natural if apes and humans are an option. now i'm imagining that one guy who posts monkeys getting tortured getting killed by one of these things when he tries to get them to infect one of the monkeys.

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>>27149352
So why not have a symbiotic species with monkeys and wasps? Monkeys would be smart enough they they will know how to keep wasps cool during the summer. Also the wasps will sting predators trying to eat monkeys, including chimps. Though the wasps probably won't do much damage against lizards and crocodiles.

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>>27150415
because the wasps would want to nest in the monkeys. the thing about the infestation of this species is that if it creates a hive, it technically is symbiotic instead of parasitic because it produces a kind of mutual benefit solely from the fact that it makes the interests of the hive the same as the interests of it's host, the problem is, why limit this only to monkeys when they could do it to any other species, as well?

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>>27150932
Then you can limit it to bigger animals you have, like large herbivores, and turn the monkey idea completely on its head to make them their primary predator. Make the monkeys inhabit the same niche that some African birds do with cleaning larger animals, like crocodiles and elephants, from parasites.

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>>27149352
The toughness of the skin is probably more important than the size of the creature. Human have really soft skins compared to a lot of the animal kingdom, which would restrict things a lot for the wasps.

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>>27150932
I just chose monkeys as an intelligent animal. Most other animals would instinctivley fight off the infection if it causes then pain. Even to the point of biting off infected limbs. Monkeys or apes should be smart enough to learn to live with the pain if it means protection from predators. It can even be learned from parent to offspring from generation to generation. And yes this includes humans too.

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Do sanalites have deep fryers and or air fryers?
Making a list of things Architects would move mountains to get for when the trade back order is no longer filled.
and for possible spy acquisition activities

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>>27152261
Anon, a pot of oil over fire is a deep frier.

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>>27151762
Pigs might be a good choice.

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>>27152261
Yes, we do and no, you can't have them.

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>>27152261
Stick with oil fryers. Also learn to invent a thermometer so you can gauge the temperature of your oils for better cooking.

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>>27152218
the whole point of having the hive make the host more susceptible to suggestion was that it would address that tendency to respond to the pain. if it was reliant on it's host being smart enough to recognize it as an advantage, it wouldn't survive, even if the host were smart enough to recognize it as a benefit.
>>27151762
why?
>>27151966
this is true, and another reason why i was questioning whether or not to mention lizards specifically, but that could be solved in a variety of ways, so i wanted to wait for a more comprehensive response.

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>>27153234
Why not?

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>>27153234
>if it was reliant on it's host being smart enough to recognize it as an advantage, it wouldn't survive
This isn't true. Symbiotic relationships in real life are often really, really specific, not super generalized. So long as the wasp found even one species which understood it was beneficial, both species could theoretically flourish. In fact I think you may in fact be making it a wee bit overpowered if you're also giving it brainwashing powers. What is this wasp's natural predator? How has it not completely taken over its local ecosystem?

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>>27153878
Maybe it has and all /meat/heads have wasps living in their skull.

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>>27153234
I guess it also depends on which part of the body the wasps need to attach to. Softer parts of most animals tend to be the most sensitive like the stomach or face. A lot of tougher skin for predators is on the back of their necks to give them an advantage against other predators. Herbivores would be the more ideal animals to attach to. Wasps would sting a predator before the herbivore becomes aware. Which could be a very frightening enemy. Especially if the herbivore becomes aggressive with this behavior. The swarm of wasps could eat a predator alive, and the herbivore lives on.

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>>27153878
didn't i address most, if not all of that in >>27148099? it's parasitic, first and foremost. the symbiotic effect is purely the result of it defending it's hive, which happens to be the host. while there is a bit of mutual benefit, it's clear the wasps benefit most from, and hold all the leverage in the interaction. it doesn't have brainwashing powers, it basically makes the host follow it's normal routines and behaviors, ignoring the pain that comes from being a hive.
it's weaknesses as wasps are the same as before, stuff like birds and what not are probably common predators of them, and these wasps attack other wasps to an irrational degree. furthermore, i said that smoke and gas-based weapons are effective against them. the reason i mentioned gas-based weapons specifically was because /meat/ doesn't use guns since they are unreliable and can damage goods, they use gas-based weapons instead, and we both know /meat/ can find a lot of uses for wasps, i even mentioned the taste of the flesh of the host for that reason. finally, any predator of the host that can handle the wasps trying to defend it pose a great threat to the wasp's survival, although if they can manage to infest the predator, it would be a minor setback.
>How has it not completely taken over its local ecosystem?
ok, this one is a better question. despite the fact that i apparently didn't make them obvious enough for you, i added a lot of disadvantages with the goal of preventing this species from doing just that, but it's not because of anything i did to make them harder to deal with. if anything, lacking a consistent hive that they can return to is a bit of a disadvantage, but it is offset by the advantages mentioned in the second paragraph.
the thing i was basing them off of, darwin wasps, are known to take over ecosystems. if you want to know what effect they would likely have on the ecosystem, i suggest looking to their real-world counterpart. with that being said, yet another disadvantage that looks like an advantage, the fact that they can use /meat/ chuubanite to keep the hive alive, would limit them to /meat/ and nearby areas.
the way i imagine it is that the host might get the advantage of being infested by wasps that will defend it, but that would never offset the disadvantage of being infested by wasps unless they were both really smart, and really strong willed. even then, it would only be a benefit for as long as it was being used to defend the host, which is why /meat/heads would probably remove it as soon as they didn't need it anymore though i would imagine /meat/ would also enjoy the pain, so maybe they wouldn't do it too soon. it is only technically symbiotic, and solely as a result of the intertwining of the hive's interests with that of the hosts.
if it is used intentionally, it is very rare, i just thought it would be cool if it was possible. if you still don't like it, or think it's overpowered, i can find more ways to balance it, but i was somewhat proud of the fact that most of the advantages are disadvantages in disguise.

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Is it weird to recall a video I saw a long time ago about nihilistic alchemy? I don't remember the details but I think it went something like this: nothing really matters so its up for you to create what matters to you. Before Sana Star Fleet and NASA was nihilistic as hell. While following Sana it lead NASA to crash. But now NASA has purpose to rebuild then follow Sana again. This is just a thought before bed.

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>>27153860
as far as predators go, i imagine it as a win condition sort of thing. there are some animals that completely counter these wasps in every way, and there are some that are completely countered in every way, but for the most part, the win condition for the wasp is to incubate a host, and the win condition of any potential host is first to avoid it, and second to eat the wasp if applicable. most species would be capable of countering it depending on the situation they were in, and how events would transpire, but wasps are capable of countering most of those species, as well. monkeys specifically being a primary predator seems strange to me when other species might have stronger advantages over these wasps than monkeys.

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>>27153860
as far as predators go, i imagine it as a win condition sort of thing. there are some animals that completely counter these wasps in every way, and there are some that are completely countered in every way, but for the most part, the win condition for the wasp is to infect a host, and the win condition of any potential host is first to avoid it, and second to eat the wasp if applicable. most species would be capable of countering it depending on the situation they were in, and how events would transpire, but wasps are capable of countering most of those species, as well. monkeys specifically being a primary predator seems strange to me when other species might have stronger advantages over these wasps than monkeys.

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>>27157732
>>27157657
Did you have trouble posting?

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>>27157004
You keep calling your wasps parasitic but the only real downside I see to these things is the excruciating pain they cause. They don't kill the host, they don't steal resources off the host, and they're an added, completely automated defense system for the host. They even serve to make the host unappealing to potential predators. What predator is going out of its way to essentially fight off two animals at once (the host and the hive) when the only reward is a foul-tasting meal? Even when it's not an absolute pain to go after, many predators will completely avoid bad-tasting prey. You see many species of animals in real life who have taken advantage of this as their main survival strategy, such as the case with viceroy butterflies. Viceroy butterflies taste good, but they've evolved to look like monarch butterflies, which taste absolutely foul. As a result, most bird ignore them entirely unless they're absolutely desperate. I suspect you'd wind up with a similar phenomenon in regard to animals hosting these wasps - predators would learn they taste bad, and would then not care to go through the hassle of hunting them. The host has gained nature's equivalent of a notice-me-not field.

The only real drawback, the pain, is mitigated by the brainwashing (yes, I think most people would consider "ignore the excruciating pain you're in" brainwashing, albeit a very mild form of it). The only time the hive actually becomes a problem for the host is if the host tries to remove it. Aggression against other wasps is not a drawback unless these wasps of yours are abnormally weak. Otherwise, these things probably fucking obliterate other wasps and may have become the only wasps in their native biome. Hyper-aggression is a valid survival strategy. As for them still having a normal wasp's weaknesses...I don't know about that.Those are heavily mitigated by the existence of the host. Smaller animals like rabbits may not be able to deter a wasp's natural predators, but would a bird divebomb a monkey or wild boar just to get at these wasps, when they can eat other, easier prey? I have my doubts. While smoke and gas are, of course, effective against wasps...this is only in regards to its weakness vs humans. What's its weakness in its natural habitat? I'm really having a hard time imagining an ecosystem this wasp doesn't just bulldoze over.

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>>27158160 (me)
I think your main problem here is that you spent a lot of time thinking about how these wasps interact with humans, but not a lot about how they'd affect the local ecosystem outside of that.

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>>27158160
I think the obvious, simple solution is to make them actually parasitic, IE they actually eat a bit of their host. Little enough that it survives, but enough to steal a significant portion of its resources. This would make it more logical that the wasps would go through the effort of infesting the victim, and this would give incentive for the local fauna to create natural counter measures (thicks skin/fur, grooming behaviors).

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>>27158380
Oh, yes, this is a very elegant solution.

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>>27158160
Remind me why you don't consider yourself a spec bio anon

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>>27158806
NTA, but everyone in this thread is a spec bio anon.
You're not like, not a spec bio anon, right? Anon?

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>>27158806
I'm more of a nature documentary anon. If you throw a fantasy creature at me, I can drill you on the "what"s and "why"s of its behavior and habitat, but I could not possibly explain to you the "how"s of its physiology and nature.

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I am sorry to once again abandon you in the middle of a conversation, /meat/anon, but it's quite late for me. If you'd like to continue this conversation, I'll be back tomorrow.

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>>27158160
i'm starting to realize that i failed to properly describe a whole bunch of stuff that was going on in my mind. i thought i clarified it, and i can point to places in my description of them that i would have thought would make it obvious, but apparently nobody else is getting it.
so first of all, please read this line.
>regardless of whether or not the host is under its influence, it will still feel pain from having a bunch of wasps crawling around in it as the hive slowly burrows itself deeper into its insides to maintain its production of more eggs
now, maybe i should have clarified it a bit more, but when i said burrow, i am imagining the kinds of things that i would get banned for posting here. fun fact, in the editing stage, i used the word "eating" but figured that wasn't descriptive enough of what was happening. i guess that was a mistake. it isn't painful just because, and as i have said multiple times before, it is only technically symbiotic, as in it provides one slight advantage to counter the massive disadvantage that comes with being infested. i said they had to have a more r selected reproductive strategy, looking at the context, you should see that i was referring to the hive's survivability. a normal hive doesn't have the risk of dying the bigger the hive gets. i added a whole paragraph specifically to explain why the wasps would still be able to survive despite this disadvantage because i thought it was too harmful to their survival.
second, darwin wasps often give their hosts aids. when i wrote the description, i removed a line comparing the suggestibility to behavioral aids because i figured it would be obvious, but they use aids to cause the immune system to ignore the eggs in the same way the hive makes the host ignore the wasps.
third, when i said agression against other wasps, i was thinking that, since other wasps might take their potential hosts, they would want to reduce the number of wasps that weren't from their hive. not their species. they are not the predators of other wasps, they are the predators of their own kin and relatives as soon as they stop being part of the same host. if anything, other species of wasps would be less threatening if they don't take away potential hosts.
>>27158225
my main problem is that i came up with the idea of it parasitizing humans after coming up with the idea in general. i said the guy who mentioned nurgle was an inspiration for it, but i had the idea long before. it was when i realized how it could apply to humans that i got interested in writing about it here, hence why i felt like i had to go into more detail about it than the stuff i said before.
>>27159758
wait don't go yet, i'm still writing and looking over my response.

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>>27159862
I think he already left, anon. This is a real star crossed lovers situation. Two cannibal spec bio anons separated by timezones. Tragic stuff.

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>>27160182
So romantic

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>>27160182
Would bring a tear to my eye if I wasn't so busy sampling these delicious Sapling cuts we just received. no but for real, when I say we sample everything as a potential ingredient, I mean EVERYTHING.

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>>27160216
they should have sex

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>>27160745
Nijiboys anon is asexual. They'd have to eat each other more literally

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>>27160884
what do you mean there won't be yaoi intercourse?

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>>27161115
kek. deicide pest control is a business

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>>27161505
>/meat/ has become meme magic hitmen
what fucking timeline are we in?!

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>>27162596
The tasty one

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>>27160182
that sucks then, but i'll try to finish my thoughts
>>27159862
>>>27158160
i'm pretty sure brainwashing involves a specific process. otherwise, spiking someone's drink would be considered brainwashing. now that i think of it, "succeptible to suggestion" implies making someone do something they wouldn't have otherwise done if it were suggested to them.
i am imagining that depressive, almost empty feeling you get when you just sort of live without any enthusiasm, where you just sort of do stuff because it's what you usually do, and if things exist that prevent you from doing it, you just sort of push through and ignore it because you can't be arsed to respond to anything outside of autopilot. i don't know how to describe this, which might be why there is so much confusion over it, but i wouldn't imagine it being all that complex, even if i didn't specifically say that it was unreliable, or that the wasps only kill the host if it does anything to threaten it. with that said, i figure if i tried i could think of a way to make it more reliable at the cost of increased complexity, such that it actually could be a mild form of brainwashing, but i'll leave that for later.
>As for them still having a normal wasp's weaknesses
the host is a hive, not a mecha. the wasps can't rely on it to be self-sufficient, they need to exit the hive and gather resources like all other species. also, wasps and bees change their behavior depending on whether or not they have a hive to return to. i said unfertilized eggs turn into hives which can fertilize eggs, implying they need to be in need of a hive to bear a new hive. for the most part, they are not protected by a hive.
if we applied this standard to normal wasps, then they would have fewer predators because wasps can protect themselves from some predators by going inside the hive. while it's true that the hive has it's own prey, it also has it's own predators, and as i have been trying to emphasize for so long, the host isn't just fine and dandy after the parasitic wasps parasitize them, the host is less even with the automated defense system, but the wasps are more because paragraph 2.
>What's its weakness in its natural habitat?
this isn't a serious problem for me, but it's a pet peeve of mine that people keep acting like the way man effects things shouldn't be considered because humans are supposedly unnatural or something. the only difference between us and any other species is the degree of our ability to intentionally change our surroundings, but every other species can change the ecosystem dramatically, sometimes in intentional ways, sometimes with rudimentary technology that, again, only differs from our technology in degree and not method. even the pace of advancement is beat by other species, so pretending that the way we change things doesn't count for any reason seems flawed to me. /meat/ would have a noticeable effect on its population, especially because it would likely kill its hive if it left /meat/'s territory.
>nature's equivalent of a notice-me-not field
i suppose i didn't mention that the hosts get aids before, but wasps can't defend them against bacteria, viruses, and other microscopic predators, so that is worth mentioning. with that said, the more i think about what you said, the more i realize that you are accidentally making a good point. your main point is completely wrong, the hosts are obviously infested, even if there are no wasps to defend it, so unless predators stop hunting their prey if they encounter too many rotten corpses of their prey that taste bad, they won't evolve to avoid the prey.
they would evolve to avoid the wasps. part of that was the intention of the scent, since i figured the hive would be too weak if they didn't have it, but if the mere presence of the wasps can deter predators, that could make the scent unnecessary, though i still think the hive itself should have that flavor. with this said, i would imagine the number of predators that would ignore or fail to notice the wasps is higher than the number of predators that would ignore or fail to notice the scent, so your desire to give it more predators can be satisfied with that simple change.
hopefully i am not overcompensating, but if you think it is still too powerful then i really have no idea why. again, the way i'm imagining it makes it extremely weak, and even if it is powerful, keep in mind that i said it was only in /meat/, and that /meat/ chuubanite's effects on evolution would give the place a lot of biodiversity, which would make everything there more dangerous. hopefully me and the other /meat/heads or anyone else that wants to throw a suggestion our way, wink wink can come up with a bunch of species, though i doubt we will add enough to cover an entire ecosystem, especially since it might start getting more complicated than it's worth at some point, but hopefully we can make an in-depth ecosystem to work off of.

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>>27147455
>>27147681
yeah no, this actually needs adressing this time, the first time around i was willing to let it be bygone because he would say he was redoing borders and no one mentioned it or really paid attention to it but for this time we made it clear that borders are not to be changed to the detriment of nations without a rep or that have not given their ok to it yet again nijimale and ahoy lost very noticable chunks of land.

this time i am calling for a response of the thread and a vote to make an official stands on this

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>>27165263
No need to be like, dramatic. I think he just can't be bothered to re-draw the border. But I agree.

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>>27165359
He doesn't have to redraw it though. He just needs to use the map with pre-drawn borders already on it.

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>>27165359
not being bothered to re-draw maps is not an excuse for anything. if you can be autistic about writing you can also be autistic about making maps.

and most of us were chill last time but appearintly it meant nothing if it keeps happening.

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>>27165613
We can just like, continue chill. Pomerlaneanon is a relatively rational person, he can have a discussion.
Also, looking at the other thread this was brought up, it seems the conclusion had been to bring it to vote, it was anchored, and then nothing happened, possibly because Sakuran (who did the previous vote rounds) isn't around.

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>>27165741
It was previously voted on to hold votes on the weekend iirc.

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>>27165875
Oh, it was a Friday thread, but the vote proposal was anchored on Saturday, that's why.

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>>27165741
the fact the vote for last time is still left open should be reason to stop until a resolution is given and not to just continue along the same way in my opinion.

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>>27166046
The latest map he made was just to give city names to /2434/, /ahoy/ wasn't even on it.

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>>27166119
That's the issue: /ahoy/ owns part of that land. He placed Eden on /ahoy/'s island for instance.

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>>27166265
Oh, that's right, I stand corrected.

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>>27166119
>>27166265
>>27166304
But /ahoy/'s not here sooooo

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>>27166410
Yeah, exactly.

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>>27166119
if you jsut need a map to place soem citys and give them names:

here, done in like 5 fuckign minutes using the map as it already exists

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holy fuck we are going through threads fast I cant keep up

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>>27162596

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My fucking goodness, I had an agreement with /2434/ about that chunk in the south and didn't realize about the island. Damn, I am sorry.

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>>27169657 (me)
Like, I wasn't being autistic about the map. I just wanted it done for them since I promised and wanted to fulfill it.

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>>27169657
>>27169741
You have a pattern, I think you need a lore ban for a while until you respect others.

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Do not reply to the schizo. If we want to vote about border changes, I am all for that right here and now. I went to bed the moment this flared up and didn't realize me trying to just get a map done in 10 minutes for another rep would cause this much issue. I only drew the borders because I download the blank map and was too lazy. I am a reasonable man and I have no issue talking things over with anyone, so long as they are reasonable too. Honestly, I didn't know about /ahoy/ or watamelon having land on Nijilands because that honestly made little sense to me considering they are holos (and not like anya-petra). my only mental problem was I sort of wanted fucked up the city names in the south because I forgot the nijimales were in the north.

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>>27169808
stop trying to fix everything with lore bans /nasa/

>>27169741
the thing is, the agreement with /2434/ was made after the fact after it lured out a rep for them, you also took a part of /ahoy/ the first tiem around and also a good chunk from /warkop/
and this time around you tokk yet again stuff from /ahoy/, they also got a corner on the mainland up there, and also a chunk from /nijimale/

it keeps happening and its always to the loss of nations that you are not making the map for

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>>27170325
my only advice to you is do some more reps before you decide to draw maps. we do have a political border map that you checked out for yourself. being lazy, while relatable, isn't an excuse not because its malicious but because it will trigger autists here like last night who think you don't give a shit. personally, i think that if /2434/ rep is fine with the border changes and since you are also helping them out that we do not need to vote on that. what i do propose is that we vote on ahoy and watamelon owning land on nijicontinent. they have no reps but that makes no sense from a lore perspective and i honestly never knew until i just looked it up. i think that central island needs redrawn as a whole along with much of the map because nasfaqq is closer to niji than holo. i like you pomerlane-anon, you are a good guy who works hard and is passionate about what you do. and i do notice that you try to help others out all the time with their lore or resolving situations. i think you just get hate because we have autists here that either have a wrong perception of you or just going nuts over everything with muh lore.

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threadly reminder to ignore the schizo pajeet that's been trying to just ban everyone he doesn't like from writing

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>>27170325
but i'm pretty sure he wasn't a schizo, at least if you are referring to the first guy. granted, i have no idea what a schizo is at this point, so maybe everyone is a schizo or something. anyways, /inf/ gave nuetralfag 3 chances, and you used up 2. please don't do it again, and it wont be a problem with me. it's pretty easy to make sure it's correct, or else don't try to do things if you can't do them well. that's my suggestion, at least. take it for what it's worth.

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>>27170800
I understand, but for the record, I think we need a major vote about the map anyways in that regard because it is thrown together haphazardly.

I can't magically draw new land (though I would if i could) for the others because the reality is I want everyone to have better borders and with ocean currents, I don't want to mess with that unless we really want to fix this as a community. That's why I say let's bring it to a vote because truthfully, it makes little since for /ahoy/ to have lands there and I was merely trying to make better borders with warkop (Both can be undone if this is that big of a problem.) It's not issue whatsoever, and I joked around about me not wanting to change the map again because of city names in the past
>>27170824
I think paragraphs anon does bring up about the land where ahoy, watamelon and nasfaqq not making much sense lore wise so maybe we can work that out.

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>>27170861
>>27171168
That's why I said to ignore him because I can tell that is who it is.

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its a fucking map bros. we need to fix it as a whole. my god, some of you need to stop being autistic about every little thing that can just be voted on or fixed.

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>>27171250 (me)
The map, for me at least, is used purely for setting and as a guide in stories. I'm not going to throw a fit if land is taken away or vise versa. It's merely a tool to accomplish my stories.

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>>27171250
for /ahoy/ i am actually in full agreement and said so last time too. they have no reason to have land on the niji continent and whatever idea might have been the basis for it back in the day was never followed up on.
but that does not change the fact that your new border also affects other nations that should not have been affected or that the change with /2434/ was done BEFORE there even was a rep for it let alone an agreement.

and for the border with /kr/, who also lost small bits i did not onclude in the pic above, as wellas /warkop/. i honestly fail to see how this border is supposed to be "better" than the old one.

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>>27172180
Where did KR lose? I will redraw if you want me too. I am busy try to work on this battle I have planned so that will be on the backburner.

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>>27172297 (me)
Heck, i'll tell you why I did it. It just looked weird as hell to see it on the map and I just wanted to shorten the border.

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>>27172437
Have to agree though not him now that I see the difference, It's just looks like it was thrown together randomly without any consideration for terrain.

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>>27172437
and that is exactly the wrong mindset when it comes to borders, leaders of nations are not sitting down and be like "yeah that part looks weird on the map, lets get a diplomat of the other nation so we can smooth out and shorten the border"
people fought tooth and nail for every fucking centimeter not even 100 years ago to the point they rather have border "islands" than give up on land they own.

this is no improvement at all and made it look weirder than before

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>>27172799
I know, and realize this all too well given my major but can we please put this on the backburner for now?

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imma just post squirrels

[Anonymous No.]

sex with squirrels

[Anonymous No.]

bumping with squirrels is new way to bump

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actually im genuinely curious how long i can bump with squirrels until other people show up. writing nasa story while bumping with squirrels while listening to risu zatsu. feels fucking comfy man.

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I will be late to respond to squirrel story because I'll be out of town for half a day. Finally a good fucking thread.

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Hot steamy sex with Saplings

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>>27176106
You would rather fuck plants then squirrels? fucking based actually since we LOVED fucking the rosebutas SAPLINGS GONNA GET DP BY SPACEMEN AND SQUIRRELS LETS FUCKING GO

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>>27170824
>>27172180
/nasfaqg/ was placed there partly because the area is between the holocontinent and the neutralcontinent. Nasfaqg, while mostly focused on holos, does also discuss some independents, and we have had nijiposters in our thread before. Furthermore, nasfaqg claimed that area way before any of the niji threads were placed in their areas.

Dont start moving us around without consent please.

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>>27176679 (me)
the second reply meant to >>27171250

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>>27176372
I get softer than freshly baked Castella cake if you are in the same room, so sorry, but I will pass on that. The only thing I am interested about you is how your meat tastes when prepared in different ways.

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>>27176877
do you mean meat or "meat"

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>>27176877
>how your meat tastes when prepared in different ways.
unexpectedly based.

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>>27176877
>how your meat tastes when prepared in different ways.
that sounds unexpectedly based.

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>>27177149
The /meat/head type of meat. I also thought about whether meat smoked with Sapling wood would have a different taste to it, and what it would be. I bet it would taste divine.

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>>27177336
oh god we summoned the meatchads

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But yea, I came to the realization today that we are a fucking space exploration fleet in search of new and exotic ingredients. And since you guys are not the same species as us, we really shouldn't have any qualms about consuming your flesh, it would basically be just eating another animal. And if you taste good...

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>27176679
I never planned to. I am not the "god" of this world in my own mind. I am not this awful unreasonable person who just wants to take land for no reason.

What I am is getting sick of hearing how I do not care for other's works and the map as a whole when I have repeatedly said the map is not this thing for me that I have to have my way. The map, for me, is a useful resource for storytelling and lore building. If umbrage is held against me for messing up a border because I didn't have it the way it is, that's unfortunate.

I made an agreement with /2434/ about this, if that is insufficient, please vote on it. Same thing with everything else. I will happily redraw the map if everyone agrees I should. But please stop with this demeaning attitude towards me that I am some serial offender and inconsiderate asshole when I am just trying to write a fucking story that I find interesting, and I hope others would too.

I am seriously annoyed at this point that everything I fucking do is somehow offensive to someone or breaks something, like yesterday about "Gods" appearing in Dreams going against HoloEarth.

Furthermore, me talking about Nasfaqg wasn't my own opinion at all, that's just what several hear have actually said, that they do not understand why /ahoy/ and Nasfaqg are so close to Nijilands.

At the end of the day, If I am such a fucking problem, I'll gladly continue my work somewhere else. This is merely a fun past time for me while I am struggling to find a job for my family.

Sorry, rant over but I really cannot stand this shit at this point when I try to be reasonable and get looked down on.

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>>27177653
So war against /nasa/ since we dont wanna be eaten?

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>>27177653
But a lot of spieces on vitubia do display sapience though. I'm sure starfleet would have some kind of directive against deliberate consumption or worse farming of sapient spieces.

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>>27177652
Aaand you just showed your antis weakness. Great job mate, now they know where to keep prodding.

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>>27177813
Eh, nothing that can't be solved with some "help" from our researcher department and a few generations of offspring :D

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>>27177788
I mean, you are delivering a potential sample right to our doorstep.

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>>27177927
I mean if you really really want to have a taste just knock on that shady bar inside that alley on Boomei Avenue. No need to travel all the way to /meat/.

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>>27178048
Gotcha, thanks owlfriend.

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>>27177824
I don't care about antis, these aren't antis.

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>>27177477
wait, you were serious? i didn't know we had a /meat/ sanalite. i was wondering if /uuu/ would make for good smoking material, since they apparently don't burn very fast, but idk.
>>27178197
/meat/ does it better, unlike the owls, our entire society is dedicated to it, and we won't persecute you for engaging in our rich cultural traditions.

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>>27178012
War?

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>>27178301
Well, I wouldn't consider myself /meat/, just honestly curious how they would taste. No fetish or anything, just a meal like any other. Also, while I'm not really all that familiar with smoking, I would guess them burning fast wouldn't matter much, just how much smoke they produce. Any Sapling here wanna deliver me some squeeb tree logs/leaves? I can pay in sammies, and I will triple the price if you deliver me a live specimen.
Also, sorry meatbro but I will have to go with owlfriend for now. It's the travel distance...

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>>27178819
Mhm. On the other side of the planet. In a climate you are not at all familiar with. With about 500km of tundra marshes and bogs to traverse to even get to us if you don't want to march your armies through /who/ and /uuu/. Oh and did I mention cat sized spiders in those marshes? To not even mention your main weapon of choice would just warm up the frozen ground creating even more mud.

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>>27179082
>cat sized spiders
sounds kinda cute ngl

>>27177652
Um... would you like to take a break? I really hope this place won't be affecting your mood too much.

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>>27179269
Ohthey are extremely cute! All warm and fluffy, just gotta watch out for the fangs.

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>>27178885
the /uuu/ rep keeps saying that plants are hard to burn, and therefore fire wont destroy the forest, but i'm pretty sure the greener, slower burning leaves are preferred as far as producing smoke is concerned, but i could be wrong about that. also, i understand, but do consider the offer.

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>>27179269
Nah, I am having fun right now writing a battle. I am just annoyed at the way how some anons are trying to make me out to be something i am not.At the end of the day, writing that gets that out of my system.

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>>27179447
Nta but it makes sense ngl.

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>>27177652
My comment was never meant as an attack toward you, it was a rebuttal to those who have wanted to move /nasfaqg/ out of where we currently are. Those people existed before you joined the thread, so I assumed the people I replied to were one of them.

My apologies if I made the post sound like an attack toward you, it was not my intention.

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>>27179577
No problem, I wasnt really mad at you as much as the general perception that some anons desire to push (I know who is an anti and who isnt. This isnt for antis.) its annoying to wake up and see a shitstorm made over something everyday lol.

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>>27179392
Never actually tried smoking meat with green wood before but from my experience camping, green wood usually produces a kind of unpleasant smell when you burn them. I'd imagine the meat would be ruined if you use anything other than season/dried wood. Also the smoke they produce isn't that high temperature as they still need to evaporate most of that water first. I'd stick to normal sapling wood.

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>>27179365
I would totally keep one as pet if I can, then again I've always been kind of interested in bugs and insects

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>>27179749
well, i am basing my knowledge on a vague memory of stuff i heard on the internet, so if that's your experience, it's probably correct. btw, i heard flavored chips like doritos are good for fires. maybe consider trying it at some point if you want.

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Anons need to quite getting so fucking autistic about dumb shit with Pomerlane anon. He can be unhinged and he is blunt as fuck but he is a really nice guy too. Really, I can understand why he snaps because I would too if I was proded everyday over minor things like he is. Some anons just need to shut their fucking mouth and carry on.

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Aww yeah WAR WAR WAR until we decimate ourselves!!!
https://youtu.be/AVDq4-vuA5Q
https://youtu.be/svbhi0UczDA
https://youtu.be/K3aeWHz6Zok
https://youtu.be/KvTZkrp108Y

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>>27177653
>Sanalites finally agree to eat risuner pussy
>wait not like that

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>>27181108
no.....no bully risuners

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>>27178048
>>27178885
It's fairly controlled so don't worry about much. Mainly criminals and other undesirables that have been fed to the cannibals to get rid of them more easily. It ain't exactly legal after all, so make sure your spaceman can always run away, we don't want any diplomatic incidents, you see.

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>>27159862
>>27163392
Oops, in hindsight I missed some obvious points. It's for the best we didn't continue this conversation last night. You're right that I should have noticed the wasps already slowly eat out the host's insides as the nest grows. But, again, given the host doesn't die, I'm not sure this is a disadvantage. Of course form a human perspective, "oh god I'm slowly dying because my insides are gradually being scooped out" is a terrible, terrible thing. From an evolutionary perspective, however? Not so much. When luna moths emerge from their cocoons, they no longer have mouths. They die slow, painful deaths over the course of one week, but evolution did not particularly care to correct this. As long as the creature reproduces before it dies, as far as nature is concerned, that's a grand success. These wasps' hosts would presumably still have enough time to reproduce, since I assume the wasps are smart enough to avoid vital organs for as long as possible for the sake of the hive's survival. But with your clarification on the wasps essentially just giving their hosts existential depression, I think this is neatly solved. The host probably just loses all mating drive.
>wasps attack their own
Ah, alright, this point wasn't clear. Yes, this is fine as a drawback then, the wasps would naturally curb their own population.
>the wasps need to exit the hive to gather resources like all other species
They need to exit the hive, but because the host continues to behave as normal, they would never have to travel very far. Normal nesting wasps/bees (of which parasitoid wasps are not, though I assume you know this) also prefer to stay as close to their nest as possible when hunting for food. They only begin to range further when the hive grows too large, consuming all nearby resources. The "hive" for these wasps move, eliminating that problem. But even if that weren't the case, the biggest threat to a wasp/bee hive's survival is not predation against gatherers. It's attacks directly to their nest by creatures like mice, honey badgers and bears which eat the larvae. I suspect this is the point you were trying to make about the wasps having their own predators, but most creatures that prey on wasp nests are quite small and would be offput by the "hive" being a living creature with the potential to fight back. Very large predators like bears won't give a shit if the "hive" is now an animal, but the medium sized and smaller ones, which make up the bulk of a wasps natural predators would be less likely to attack your wasps' nests vs a regular wasp's nest.
>humans shouldn't be considered unnatural
Ah, I realize I'm the one who failed to extrapolate my thoughts here due to my assumption that people are autistic about the same things as me. Of course humans are considered a part of the environment and will affect the biome they live in, but you still have to consider what the biome looks like without humans because humans are an incredibly young species. If we're very generous with what we consider human, humans have been around for about 3 million years. Wasps have been around for 240 million. /meat/'s biome would have been shaped by these wasps long before humans came into the picture.
>predators would evolve to avoid the wasps
Yes, this is the point I was making. There's no disagreement here. I did not mean predators would evolve a host animals entire species, or I would have said as much. I meant that predators would evolve to specifically avoid "hosts of the parasitic wasps," which is enough of an evolutionary advantage that some animals are very likely to allow the wasps to nest in them willingly, forming a symbiotic relationship. Of course, this has already been solved with the lack of mating drive -- the hosts are now decidedly parasitic. Given the additional clarification that your wasps attack their own, there is also no concern about ecological domination. I now think your wasps are fine. Good work on these guys.

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im so confused by the last line https://rentry.org/ArriveAtBorderCamp
implying they met before? i dont recall this?

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WAR ANON, YOU LIKE WAR, HERE IS A MAJOR BATTLE. THE BATTLE OF SCHWARZBACH.

https://rentry.org/ab8b5
https://rentry.org/ab8b5
https://rentry.org/ab8b5
https://rentry.org/ab8b5

It took me hours to write this and make the tactical maps.

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>>27183359
God I made so many typos. Phoneposting: not even once.

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>>27183552
Pomerlanius Rex, unser König und Herr,
der rief seine Soldaten allesamt ins Gewehr,
zweihundert Bataillons und an die tausend Schwadronen,
und jeder Grenadier kriegt sechzig Patronen.

"Ihr verfluchten Kerls", sprach seine Majestät,
"dass jeder in der Bataille seinen Mann mir steht!
Sie gönnen mir nicht Schlesien und die Grafschaft Glaz
und die hundert Millionen in Meinem Schatz."

"Die Kaiserin hat sich mit dem Franzosen allirt,
und das römische Reich gegen mich revoltiert,
die Russen seind gefallen in Pommern ein.
Auf, lasst uns sie zeigen, dass wir brave Landskinder sein."

"Meine Generale Schwerin Nund Feldmarschall von Quedlinburg ,
und der Generalmajor von Makrebolities sind allemal bereit.
Potz, Mohren, Blitz und Kreuz-Element,
wer den Fritz und seine Soldaten noch nicht kennt."

Nun adjö, Luise, wisch ab das Gesicht,
eine jede Kugel, die trifft ja nicht;
denn träfe jede Kugel apart ihren Mann,
wo kriegten die Könige ihre Soldaten dann!

Die Musketenkugel macht ein kleines Loch,
die Kanonenkugel ein weit grösseres noch;
die Kugeln sind alle von Eisen und Blei,
und manche Kugel geht manchem vorbei.

Unsre Artillerie hat ein vortrefflich Kaliber,
und von den Pommern geht keiner nicht zum Feinde hinüber;
die Schweden, die haben verflucht schlechtes Geld,
wer weiss, ob der Östreicher besseres hält.

Mit Pomade bezahlt den Franzosen sein König,
wir kriegen's alle Woche bei Heller und Pfenning.
Potz, Mohren, Blitz und Kreuz-Sapperment,
wer kriegt so prompt wie der Pommern sein Traktament.

Pomerlanius mein König, den der Lorbeerkranz ziert,
ach hätt'st du nur öfters zu plündern permittiert,
Pomerlanius Rex, mein König und Held,
wir schlügen den Teufel für dich aus der Welt!
Pomerlanius Rex, mein König und Held,
wir schlügen den Teufel für dich aus der Welt!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FF6YtLA-WA

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>>27183377
I'm at a Chik-fil-a. Charlie and Mac met a pair of Risuner twins at /hlgg/. The twins wanted to meet them again at NASA. So they joined the expedition. I can retcon it when I get back home if you like.

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>>27177652
the thing is, this is not the fanfic writing thread. this is the worldbuilding thread

i have nothing against your writing or had issue so far with your interpretation of stuff for your mythical story so far.

but stuff like how gods work, the way the borders are set and other stuff have been discussed by many and agreed upon by the overall concens of the thread. It is supposed to lay the foundation so that everyone can work with the same principle and can interact with each other. at the end the stories you write are not just supposed to stand in some corner of their own but also be potential pieces that other anons can interact with and implement into their own things too.

same with the fact that borders are not to be changed on a whim of 1 or 2 people, we had ACTUAL trouble because of such things with /uuu/ and /who/ for example in the past.
as well as it sets a precedence that than later can be used as "well pomerlaneanon changed the map to suit his stuff so why can i not take 1/3rd of this nation because it suits mine?"

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>>27184892
oh its fine. i thought you meant my rep i had in mind kek

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>>27183359
i said they kept the host alive with /meat/ chuubanite, but the host is basically dying a slow painful death. anyways, if it's satisfactory to you at this stage, i suppose i can add it to the anchor. with that said, i'm not sure if there is any part you want me to change or emphasize. i suppose archiveanon will include the whole conversation anyways. thank you for responding to me and helping me articulate the idea better, though. also, thanks for informing me that you were going, that was much more convenient for me.
>>27134230
>>27148099

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>>27185693
shit, wrong anchor. not sure if it matters though.
>>27134174
>>27148099

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>>27185693
Again, the slow painful death isn't necessarily a dealbreaker. All evolution cares about is that the creature reproduces prior to death.

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so are we really going with /nasa/ trying to be cannibals to risuners? by that logic wouldn't they wanna go ham on luknights as well?

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>>27186003
it's the euro sanallite, so dunno. He might just be fucking around

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If I knew that me asking Pomerlane senpai for a map would cause this many issues, i wouldn't have. I had just started to write something up about /2434/ when i checked the thread and saw that shit was going down because of my stupid map that he made me and that people were still made about the deal we made about the land...I thought when I woke up it would be better but apparently not. Wish I had said something last night, but I didn't.

Pomerlane-senpai, forgive me, it's my fault.

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>>27186094
im going to assume so because there is literal 0 reason to do so. intelligent species + if they were to do it to risuners they would do it to everyone else. No logic picking risuners out.

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>>27185793
the point i was making was that without the chuubanite, they would be dead. imagine trying to mate a diseased, smelly, wasp-infected semi-automaton with aids.

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/nasa/ giving a presentation on Rosebutas
https://youtu.be/eb6ja96y6Ps

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>>27186475
ROSE SENPAI

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>>27186295
You're fine, it's not your fault. If you need help, i am here. It is what it is. If anons take issue with it, let us vote on it. At this point, I have to accept that everything I do is going to generate controversy, whether they be actual antis or not (I can tell the difference.) I'm personally working on something right now anyways so I can't be bothered at this point.

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>>27186311
But your wasps are only capable of existing in /meat/ and explicitly make use of chuubanite to keep the host alive. There is no scenario where the host does not have access to chuubanite. And of course that's a gross prospect to humans, but again, animals don't care. Perhaps when the wasp first began appearing, potential mates would avoid infested hosts, but given an evolutionary advantage they would quickly cease to care as it became evident infected animals did better than non-infected ones. This no longer matters for your wasps specifically, but it's something to keep in mind for future speculative biology projects. Evolution quite simply does not care about what humans think of as offputting.

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The borders in general needs a lot of work since there's lots of new threads not represented, and some threads that are gone or changed.

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>>27186865
Honestly I think we just need to redo the whole map. But we might as well wait for holoEN 3 or nijiEN's new wave before cleaning things up since we'll need to redo the whole map at that point anyway. No reason to make ourselves do it twice.

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You faggots want new blood so bad but actively manage to turn them away by your own autism. Let niggers write, for fucks sake.

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>>27186734
well, i suppose that's informative, then. i'll try to remember it in the future. ty.

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>>27186475
How would you like to set up an encounter between Rosebutas and the Empire once you reveal? I think that we can work something out without going into too much detail, don't you think?

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>>27186962
Good idea to wait until then. I just hope shitwars don't happen when every thread inevitably needs to have smaller borders to accommodate new threads.

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>>27187217
We would unless I am the one doing it kek.

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>>27187217
You know it'll happen. Some anons are very defensive of the size of their country.

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>>27187217
this could reasoned with by revolution/civil war and a new nation being born. Its how a lot of nation are made, including burgerland

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>>27187575
NijiEN's is caused by migrations in our lore. That will remain the same I think.

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>>27187575
>>27187913
Mystery migrations probably work better than revolution in general. That way it doesn't force reps for new gens to build their lore off lore for existing gens.

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>>27188086
Agreed. Albeit warfare does play some of a background part, the way I set up NijiEN I think will help us adapt easier without major problems with spliting up our land. I would hope at least.

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>>27186561
Good morning, Risuner!
>>27187179
I think the most interesting method would be having some Tunnelhogs make their way directly to the capital. They could show up in hoods, all hidden so you can't see what they are, then introduce themselves by taking off the hoods and announcing the presence of /rose/. I think that might be interesting and pretty fun. Unless you're thinking of some other kind of encounter.

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>>27188473
>Tunnelhogs
That would be an awful long way to travel. How about some border city.

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>>27188473
It's a shame /rose/ and quilldren territory are so far away from each other. I think it'd be pretty funny if they ran into each other while they were both trying to expand their underground lairs.

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>>27180262
>>27182964
>>27188413
Thanks /meat/

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>>27188652 (me)
I think an interesting first encounter would be a stand off at a border fort personally.

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>>27188652
>>27188818
I mean, it would be a long travel either way. But you're correct in that they would have to locate some border area to speak with. They'd locate the first town or fort they can, then look for directions to the capital and other information they can get from the people without arousing suspicion.
>>27188668
Quilldren also have an underground home? That's pretty cool! I'm sure they'll run into each other eventually.

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>>27188957
On the surface, Quilldren territory is mostly untamed forest. They have cute, quaint little hamlets dotted around and it appears their only major metropolis is their capital city. But in reality a ton of shit is hidden underground. This is to hide the fact they actually think their god is an eldritch time deity responsible for all creation who must be appeased with sacrifices lest he grow bored of our universe. Sometimes lone travelers in Quilldren territory just "disappear," but nobody thinks much of it because the forest is dangerous, littered with sinkholes and difficult to navigate.

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>>27188957
>RoseButas approach a fort on foot
>The Guards yell halt, holding up their muskets
>RoseButas realize something is up and stop
>A Tense standoff ensues only broken by a captain who orders his men to lower their arms
>He walks up to the RoseButas and tries to communicate
That's how I think it should be done, at least it think it would be interesting that way.

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>>27189280
That's pretty based. It's a bit like a less intense version of /rose/, except your forest is dangerous in a different way. Where /rose/'s forest is dangerous mostly because of the wildlife, Quilldren's forest is dangerous because of environmental hazards.
>>27189378
I can see that happening, yeah. The Rosebutas would probably have a Sunwalker with them as well, one that's snuck around /NijiEN/ territory long enough to have a basic understanding of the language. Since Sunwalkers are far more human looking all they'd have to really do is hide their heads, unlike a Tunnelhog that would have to hide the legs and hands and such.

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>>27189649
It depends on how you want to approach their reveal. You can have a trade caravan approach somewhere or something like that. The only reason a standoff occurs in those regions is Babirusas.

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>>27189649
Yeah, it is quite similar in some ways! The biggest difference would be that Quilldren still keep a public face above-ground, and it's one that's generally well respected. They're considered somewhat pretentious but mostly helpful and aren't seen as a threat at all, given their physical frailty. But then they have this whole murder-suicide cult hidden underground. I wanted to give their society a dark fairytale sort of vibe, since Ike is a novelist with yandere tendencies.

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>>27189901
Rosebutas don't have much in the way of land travel, but they're pretty quick on foot so it wouldn't be too big of a deal there. I think the best way to go about it, with everything in mind, is a fort that knows of Sunwalkers one day has a group of them show up at the door step. Perhaps they haven't actually spoken with Sunwalkers, due to their inherent aversion to other people, which feeds into the sudden pressure of a whole horde of them appearing in front of the fort. With them is a small number of hooded individuals, which the Sunwalkers explain is the Tunnelhogs. Then the Tunnelhogs unveil themselves and describe the situation of /rose/. Something like that.
>>27190262
Very fascinating! I'm pretty excited to see that now, to be honest. I'll say that the difference in physical strength is kind of funny, since Rosebutas are normally much more powerful than the average human. Would be funny if a Rosebuta went to politely shake hands and accidentally broke some poor Quilldren's fingers.

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>>27166559
The last thing I'll say about map shenanigans (shenanigans does not mean sex) is that if vote anon is around, could he confirm he'll run a vote this weekend? If he doesn't say anything by this time tomorrow, I'll run it.
t. deadbeat
Also pomerlaneanon, the new battle is kino, nice maps. One of these days I'll lay out a naval battle in a schematic, one of these days...

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>>27190478
When do you plan on releasing it? lets work on this encounter.

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>>27190900
>plan
That's my secret, I can't plan.
But I'm happy to work on the encounter while I work on the rework.

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>>27190879
Thanks, I tried to do a Naval Battle map but it was hard as hell. You will have to find a model like I did for the cannons for ships.

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Im just fucking proud risuners were the first ones to discover tunnelhogs and the first to nut into the plant people.

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>>27190972
> I can't plan.
Barely better than you, I plan only for things immediately.
I've never done a coop before so I'll need some help understanding it.

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>>27190478
The Quilldren will be well prepared for this possibility and will offer a sleeve for the handshake. After all, they live next to the similarly supernaturally strong Lucubs, who also tend to be way too enthusiastic about physical contact. Hugs from Lucubs are probably a real health risk for Quilldren...

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Enoch logs ch 1.

Well this is a massive surprise! We were next to Hamdani's camp waiting for her advance scouts to give us a route to /nasa/ when suddenly /nasa/ came to us. They had these really cool looking cart things that somehow drove themselves. I bet they use magic.
They had on really cool looking suits and spoke similarly to the hoomans and saplings. They all seem to share some sort of regional language I guess. Makes it easy to communicate for sure.

The first thing they did was make sure we weren't carrying anything weird. All we have is nuts and basic weapons so they didn't really find much. Sure they raised a few questions about our swords and bows but they probably have cooler stuff so why are they even asking?
It was really funny at least to see them search the tents and see 2 of my crew fucking in the storage room. The poor man just face palmed but that's what he gets for snooping around. Probably just jealous he cant get any sex for himself.

YUP HES FUCKING JEALOUS ALRIGHT! These idiots have some sort of super strict "no sex" rule which to me is baffling. No wonder they had a civil war recently according to the one named Mac. They must have been so sexually frustrated they just killed each other for the right to nut. And god dammit this means all 3 northern nations have rules against nutting what a fucking disappointment.
At the very least they have actual nuts to trade. At least that's what they told me. They are preparing some really fancy stuff and even some of the luknights will be there. I never saw a luknight in person but I know a few of my crew has. I hear they have tasty candies. Hopefully they can at least appreciate the fine art of nutting.

Were currently headed to their land to their presentation area. Hopefully it will be fun but if the hoomans are right about them, then they will be plenty of enjoyment and have lots of cool things to give us for nuts.

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>>27191665
FUCKING ANCHOR BTW (why am i like this) >>27134174

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>we're back to map autism from 6 months ago

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>>27191772
This is why I stopped doing that and made a docfile to put everything in. I always anchor on the wrong one too.

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>>27191899
>accuse Kronies of doing timeloops
>they took it personal and left
>timeloops still exist
Kronies we are sorry!

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>>27190974
I might just pull up Total War: Empire and put the battle together there lol.

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>>27192043
I have basically done that mentally for my battles and actual historical shit. I'm sure you can find shit on Trafalgar, the Nile, and other major battles from that time period that show you.

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>>27192136 (me)
Yeah, like this. I refused to do this for a land-naval battle for obvious reasons.

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>>27192220 (me)
My advice, Make the canvas huge in Paint.net and use copy and paste to move things around during each scene. That's how I got it to work nice for me this time.

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>>27192136
>>27192220
>>27192407
Oh yeah, I wouldn't think of doing something like that without grabbing tactics and formations from existing battles (Or Legend of the Galactic Heroes, at least). Thanks for the tips.

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>>27192552
Also forgot to mention... To copy and Paste, use the rectangle tool. Saved me so much time.

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>>27191998
Did all the kronies leave or do we still have a few here?

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>>27192622
Thankfully, Graphic Design is my Passion, so I'm more worried about wrapping my brain around the battles than laying them out on the canvas.

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>>27193091
the one clock left is a nasfag

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>>27193152
You have the opposite problem of me. I have the ability to see this shit in my head like nothing else but as soon as it comes to me putting it to canvas, it becomes a problem because of my inferior skills. (Funny, I was the head of webdesign in HS many years ago.)

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>>27193238
Ah chroniebanks

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>>27195620
Holy shit /ybc/ lives?

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>>27195620
Someone should build a /vtwbg/ village in the /ybc/ server... And then you can add the /vtwbg/ village in the map for the /ybc/ country in the /vtwbg/ map...
Also, nice to see yubicraft around, been a while.

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Deadbeat anon, are you still here? I was working on Kindred and came up with some suggestions for their potential relationship with Deadbeats that I’d like to run by you. Perhaps way, way back in the day – like, far back enough that Moriji’s volcano was still active – Kindred and Deadbeats were one in the same. Two deities were worshipped on the island – a Japanese goddess and a Latin god. Closer to the volcano, the god was believed to have more influence while a little further out, it was the goddess, but both deities were equally respected and rituals were observed for them both. But the volcano. Periodic eruptions, at first only once every few centuries but then in shorter and shorter intervals, would almost wipe the settlements near the base off the map. It happened began happening with enough frequency that some people eventually got sick of it and set sail for greener (or at least less explosive) shores, this being exaggerated into the near-extinction event in Kindred myth. The worship of the less prevalent deity was eventually forgotten by each respective group, but enough remained that we get the weird mixup of a Latin goddess who’s strangely Japanese and a Japanese god who’s strangely Latin.

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>kindred are trying to sneak into deadbeat island

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>>27196078
Oh, I like that a lot! Kind of ties in with some Deadbeat lore, what with us going through purges to remove ficklebeats, and deadbeats tending to stubbornly stick around no matter what happens.
I like it a lot! The only change I would suggest is in light of the lore regarding the region around Mont Mori. The Underworld as it's called is a region around the Mont where the ambient chuubanite concentrations are too high for humans to settle there long term. Almost everyone is driven mad by it after a while. So there wouldn't be any settlements near the base. But instead we could use the East/West separation as a cultural distinction. There is a chain of volcanic mountains running vertically through Moriji. The East of the island has a different climate due to the ocean currents, it's more mediterranean while the West is more tropical. There is also less land area to the East, so the people living there would have to settle closer to the volcanic chain. So I'd say we put the Deadbeat ancestors on the West side and the kindred ancestors to the East.
This also makes it so the kindred leaving the island need only sail straight ahead to hit the continent, if this is happening in the very far past, they'd have limited navigation capability. Once they hit the continent, they would migrate south, eventually settling in the Nijilands.
Also, Mont Mori is still active, just sleeping...

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>>27196878
I don't want to crash the party here but why woul deadbeats and kindred have any potential relationship? There is no connection between the two chubbas and there no connection between the two fanbases on /vt/ so why would there bee one in the lore?

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>>27197093
There is a connection in lore, both chuubas are Underworld entities. Also, both are culturally a japanese-grecoroman mix, which is an odd coincidence.
I don't think the two peoples have a relationship in the current day though, this is more akin to a population movement in prehistory, like steppe people crossing the Alaskan landbridge to reach America. Vitubia is only reaching the level of globalization where Deadbeats and Kindred could possibly be in contact in the current times.

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>>27197093
Well they are both massive faggots, so it's understandable they would hook up

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>>27197305
kek. I don't know if you knew, but you're right in a way, fembeats make up more of the fanbase than you'd expect, and they're all lesbians.

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>>27196878
Sounds good to me! I did try to make it fit in with your lore but my brain is a little scrambled from trying to take into account so much chuuba lore at once.

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New bread?

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>>27161505
>>27162596
>>27188778
>Antis ask /meat/ for help
>/meat/chads accept and does it for free no extra cost
KEK! What the fuck is going on?

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>>27197570
>they do it for free
/meat/ are jannies?

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>>27197788
>>27197788
>>27197788
New bread

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>>27197813
Anchors doko?

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>>27197843
pls andastandt it was still baking