Tick Tock Moona

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a wild Zombie dethrone the Queen

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More mass, more momentum. Thats a simple physics

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>>27029471
It looks like they are tied to me

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>>27029471
it's over for both of them

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>>27029471
Doesn't matter when Ollie reclined to Sana tier

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>>27030867
kek

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>>27029471
Admittedly I'm not Indonesian but I just don't see the appeal of Kobo over her senpais.

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>>27029471
Ollie's CCV and views are shit tho.

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I like to watch Moona because she's fun, not because of a number.

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Moona's rise to the top was entirely fuelled by the brief association with Pekora and the stagnation thereafter was unsurprising. Risu was top before then if you can believe it.

It won't take Kobo to take the throne with how much Moona and Ollie have flatlined.

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>>27035908
>by the brief association with Pekora
>Brief
They had a collaboration a week ago

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>>27029471
Look what happens when Ollie does not yell into the mic

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>>27036319
He's talking about dead jp subs, moona is ID's mori, jp's gave them a bunch of subs but did not switch to active viewers
JP doesn't even watch translated clips of mori/moona anymore

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>>27029471
Hahahahaha, Moona is not a number fags, she didn't care about subs count, I wish she is, she will gladly pass her ID queen status to her peers lol

And with the rise of Kobo Indonesian viewers, I hope they can get permission to finally sing ID songs

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>>27029471
I always thought Ollie was the most popular ID Holo and was quite surprised to learn that Moona was going to be the one to get 1m first.

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yubi yubi yubi

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>>27038087
Ollie got a bunch of subs due to dick riding any eceleb tweeting Hololive sway. Once Ecelebs realized they couldn’t get to gura they stopped and that’s why her CCV is fucking shit.

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>bottom 10 in CCV
>rapidly growing subcount
how?

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>>27038739
E celebs and leeching off popular Holos. HoloEns and JP also have leeches but they actually incline like Fauna and Koyori. Meanwhile ollie gets a sub and they never watch

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>>27035252
She is a loli, what more could you want?

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>>27035252
we all know why

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>>27038680
that's why I love goomba.

>>27038739
just leech everywhere that's how.

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>>27029471
love them both

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>>27038739
jesas she did anything, like literally anything that a trend hopper and leecher could do

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>>27035908
I thought it had to do with the strippertastic dancing.

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>>27030867
explain kobo

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>>27035252
>Admittedly I'm not Indonesian
thanks for answering yourself

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>>27037276
>I hope they can get permission to finally sing ID songs
They can, it's just fucking expensive. Kobo said that her planned ID karaoke would probably cost her as much as "making a concert". So yeah, they probably just do it once.

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>>27029471
both would be passed by Kobo anyway

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>>27062288
>cost as much as "making a concert"
JESUS CHRIST

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>>27064195
well, probably a hyperbole and probably still cheaper, but definitely expensive

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>>27037030
Isn’t calli still the most popular none Japanese person in the jo fanbase though?

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>>27029471
Tick tock to the both of them

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>>27038087
Ollie exploded once she started hanging of with e celebs like trash taste. And now that most vtuber fans don’t like those e celeb types most of them are dead subs. Overall sub counts can be deceiving somtimes you have to look at ccv’s and vod viewers too.

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>>27029471
>another numberfag out of their containment thread

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>>27064195
maybe she meant that the permission fee is the same as if you're making a concert, copyright is retarded

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Well, it’s just that Moona streamed less for the past 6 months because she’s on her final year of college and she’s busy finishing her thesis. And she’s making her EP on the side.

What’s funny is that a student working on a thesis still has more stream hours than half of EN in the past months

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>>27069477
that's Gura

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>>27035252
like in jp, those who pander to audiences more than their own would grow less. moona and ollie do more for the eops. kobo is more relatable to indos.

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>>27035252
>Im not Indonesian
Ok stop there... We know

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>>27030867
lmfao

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>>27080764
Ok newfag lmao. If you were here when HoloID started you'd know that Gen 1 tried and failed to speak only Indo. They got growth pandering to EoP's and leaching off Pekora

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>>27082473
Anon, dont make us embarassed please. Argumen lu gak nyambung.

You're correct that gen 1 failed speaking Indo, and yes you're also correct that Moona got big by pandering to EoP and "leeching" Pekora, especially since the big EN boom in late 2020. But this anon>>27080764 us also correct.

At the end of the day, EOP would prefer a real EN talent because they can relate better to them compare to some Indonesian who speaks some broken English. Just like how ID audience find Kobo relatable, holoEN is just more relatable to the majority of EN audience.

That's why pandering to EOP is good only for short terms, because they'll slowly switch to true EN chubas as the time goes on and more EN chubas debuted.

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>>27060842
My dick gives her all momentum she needs to surpass both of them and more

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>>27083407
Pandering to any audience is always only good for short term. Even the EN audience for the EN branch has reclined.

That’s why you make your content universal. Moona has successfully done so with her singing and MC streams, overcoming the fact that she isn’t the most eloquent in either English or Indonesian.

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>>27038948
>Koyo
>leech
If she streams twice a fucking day of course she's going to have a lot of collabs. She also collabs with lower-CCV holos like AZKi and Mel.

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>>27084786
>Even the EN audience for the EN branch has reclined.
Yes, but it's still bigger than EN audience that watch non native EN chubas. EN is even more tricky since it's include viewers from KR, TW, and even SEA too. And if all those regions have more and more local chubas, a decent amount of viewers would probably stop and watch their local chubas instead.

>Moona has successfully done so with her singing and MC streams
Yes, she doesn't need to speak fluent English for those streams. It's hard tho to do that.

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>>27029471
It was bound to happen eventually

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>>27083407
>gen 1 failed speaking Indo,
Gen 3 newfag

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>>27036555
t. Autist
https://raisingchildren.net.au/autism/behaviour/understanding-behaviour/sensory-sensitivities-asd

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>>27083407
t.converted nijinipple id

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Good that Moona didn't pander to indogs because it's these subhumans who call her a leech.

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>>27062288
>>27064195
well good thing she's a multi-millionaire by now. probably not even chump change for her.

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>>27035252
>not Indonesian
there's your problem

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I don't care. I enjoy Kobo because she enabled me to enjoy windah's style delivery within an cute anime Avatar
Its not Gen 1 fault that back then this style didnt exist yet and they never able to break into the indon market. But still thanks for providing a foundation for future content creator to grow.

Btw, buat yg suka remehin gen 3 newfag, pas CF shareloc aja ya om. Nanti kita sapa yah jangan nangis.

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>>27087531
Alah mamak kau pelacur, cepat isap kontol rizik sana baru kau post sini njing

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>>27084937
To be fair, AZKi, Mel, and Koyo have done some collabing in the past

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>>27087607
>Bule tryharding to speak indon cant help to bring up whores since thats what EN vtubers really are
Your post fucking glows mang

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>>27087989
Bule mamak kau lonte, lu share loc sini, kelahi kita bocah kontol, gw mw patahin leher lu bocah anjing

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>>27087531
But anon... Kobo likes manca more than windah

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>>27088096
Stop that crying before you type lol

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>>27088364
Come on share loc duluan lah, gw gatal mau patahin leher bocah2 sampah kayak kalian

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>>27087531
>indon
Go back to Twitter

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>>27088500
NTA , but try typing that again without crying

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>>27087531
learn to read the thread first and go rant after that, no one called him a newfags just because hes an id3 fags

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>>27088696
Nta but
Memek bau

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>>27029471
QUICK MOONER SPAM THE KARAOKE STREAM

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>>27090097
no

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>>27029471
Uh oh, the big guns got pulled out
https://youtu.be/L7pcLA0O7dA

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>>27035252
Blue cunny

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>>27092815
not gonna change anything

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>>27095049
Be grateful anon, Moona specifically answer your question

https://mobile.twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1542062873186549761

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>>27095800
absolutely based

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>>27092815
>had to resort with Leeching to beat the shit out of Zombwhore
roru rumao

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>>27087531
lmao this is so embarassing, i hope you're just shitposting

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>/#/
>esl everywhere
Really gunning for worst thread in the catalog, hmm?

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>>27029471
Kobo unironically might beat Moona before Ollie although it's anyone's guess at how these will pan out.

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>>27096543
>cum on you

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>>27097382
Schizo containment thread

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>>27035252
She's kobased.

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>>27087531
SEAniggers... not like this

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>>27087531
What the fuck is wrong with you kobofags?

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>>27102085
be careful if you see an indon poster
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/mind-your-online-manners-indonesia-last-in-southeast-asia-in-digital-civility-study/

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>>27086443
our standard is different, nijiniggers kun. i know you're happy that holoID are smaller back then, but you can't fool me

>>27086802
nice try, but i'm not. anyway, enjoy your Bule overlord who already abandoned them now kek. YWNBW

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>>27087607
>>27088096
Kek, the level of holoID olfags.....

Embarassing, no wonder they're so proud watching gen1&2 speaks English despite understanding none of it. Every fucking time you try to debate with them they always resort back to Indonesian kek, and yet they somehow arrogant enough to gatekeep IOP. The absolute state of oldfags.... no wonder holoID stagnant and even declined before ID3 saved them.

Setidaknya gunakanlah bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar kalau gak bisa bahasa Inggris. Udah gak bisa bahasa Inggris, bahasa Indonesia cuman bisa memek kontol lol. Bikin malu aja.

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>>27088500
I really think this garbage has to be one of the worst languages out there. It's almost as if an english person was writing something and a random guy appear, shuffle a few letters for fun, and vanish.
It gives this disgusting thing a feeling that I can almost understand, with an even worst feeling that it's just someone pulling my leg with what he had created in the space of ten seconds to see my reaction.
And I'm not even talking about the oral language. How can you bear to listen to a chuba talking like this? I can't fathom this, surely it is one of the great mysteries of the world.

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>>27096753
>>27102989
that anon just want to socialize with each other, what's wrong with that? you're too scared to touch grass? don't worry, believe me, the outside world is not that bad as long as you're not being a retard.

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>>27103718
>trying to look smart
>got retarded vibe instead

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>>27104018
I mean he's just replying to the share loc anon, baru ditantang balik kelahi sudah takut terus alihkan topik, potong burung sana ajalah

Also lol, IOP don't donate enough money to ID gen1 and gen2, so they go full/almost EN, and I'm glad they did that so they not end up like Niji ID lol

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>>27104230
because it's a great language, unlike English which is just a retard version of similar language like German / Spanish with their retarded inconsistency. no wonder you guys are struggling learning other language since your retard language are so inconsistent.

like, it blows my mind how many EOP struggled to pronounce any new English word they have just seen.... wtf, that's your own native language, i can even guess the pronounce better than most of you and my English sucks.

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>>27104306
>can't make any argument
>the only thing he can do is calling other "retard"

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>almost the double of aki rosenthal
>but not even the tenth of her talent

that's fucked up.

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>Also lol, IOP don't donate enough money to ID gen1 and gen2, so they go full/almost EN, and I'm glad they did that so they not end up like Niji ID lol

Ah, yes, i remember this argument. So you're that same Moona scizho who always shitted every ID split and /warkop/. Good thing you only have one argument and never changes it so we can easily identify you.

Classic indogs with their muter-muter argument because they're too retarded to make a new one.

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Oldfag here , but i prefer to watch gen3 now. Sometime i watch risu & gen2 except olliebitch,

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Ah yes, the classic your post looks like some old post in the archives

So sad they axed the worthless Niji ID, most of their members are literal 2views hahahaha

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>>27086895
classic indog and their crab mentality

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>Indonesian doesn't give money to boring chubas

Duh, of course. Why gives money to them when there're a bunch of other more entertaining streamers. If you're actually entertaining like Kobo and they will give money of course.

For comparison, Kobo already got 14% of Moona's total SC (20% if you count YT's cut) just from her SB, just 3 month agter her debut. All from Indonesian.

ps: Yes, i know that Moona also got a lot of SL donation. My point is not to numberfag and compare their numbers, but to just show how many you can get just from Indonesian.

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>>27105006
So ... Niji ID is boring ?

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Nice try, but when 90% of your post are literally the exact same with the exact same wording, it's easy to detect anon. Just because this is an anonymous board doesn't mean we can't figure this shit out.

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>>27105088
absolutely

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>>27105088
Of course, what kind of question is this.

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>>27029471
damn. holoID is way too strong. they already have two one million gang and one is cooming soonTM. KEK nijiID who??????

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>>27105088
Anon, they're doing their best okay? Please don't mock Niji ID or the share loc anon will bully you in this thread

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>>27103718
>YWNBW
>You will never be a woman
Really, nigga? Lurk more before you post

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>>27105282
W = westerner, retard. I admit that i don't know if there's a proper slang for that, i only know YWNBJ and adopted it kek. If you have brain you can understand from the context what i mean anyway.

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>>27105249
nta, but not every "Indopride" is a nijiniggers. newfag, maybe, but assuming all gen3 fans as nijiniggers is retarded.

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>>27105454
Lol you're the retarded one Anon, please kys

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>>27105454
You made that shit up, SEAturtle

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>>27105532
They can be both, you know?

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Idk why people immediately assume ID3 fans as nijiniggers. Most of them are newfags that Kobo brings. We already discussed this on /warkop/ but most njiniggers murtaded to the likes of Yume and Metanoia.

Kobo styles is too different for average nijiniggers to enjoy.

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Topkek seeing these indogs retard ITT whose fight each other for defending virtual E-girl that only says thank you after all the money they donate

bela vdubur kayak bela negara cok, goblok sumpah

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>>27105660
t. Nijinigger

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>>27105647
yes, of course, but most of them probably doesn't like Kobo's style. see >>27105660

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>>27105688
>t. Pemuda Pancasila

>>27105708
Whatever anon, i don't care.

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>>27105783
Kek pemuda pancasila is jobless hobo that can't even donate to their oshi's rite ?

just like most of vdubur fans, can't even support and appreciate their entertainer

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>>27105876
i hope you don't kys after seeing this >>27010633

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>>27105534
>>27105541
Yes, and it's still worked if you have brain from the context.

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>>27105984
Just slit your throat anon, you're the one retarded here

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>>27105951
Why would i killed myself over someone else's money kek

i can't even afford it myself, you should be proud sharing this but not even donating yourself eh ?

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OP Here, i can't believe this shit thread still alive and well after 20 hours, kek keep it up

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>>27105951
Post membership and donation or kys anon

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>>27106067
>no argument
ok

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>>27106139
It's fun to read kek, and hopefully can attracts the schizo out of /warkop/.

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>>27106201
So you're the poorfag that can't donate to Kobo?

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>>27106177
>>27106287
Done

I love how you retreat from the argument and now just straight up using the same "poorfag" wording you always use. When are you gonna said "Wibu miskin goblok"? It's alright anon, we know who you are, stop pretending.

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>>27106517
Good, keep supporting your oshi, don't let her starve to death, and keep doing donothon like Niji ID

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>>27107053
Definitely anon, i'll get that damn horse badge.