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>Tfw you to be a Twitch streamer so bad because poggers zoomer culture is so lit yo
>Hololive branch manager orders you not to once found out about your channel
>Go on a political-fueled hissy fit, get kicked out, and join a new company
>Privatizing your streams and wait until the legal work is done to officially debut
>Tfw months later, despite being careful, the company orders you to cease your twitch activity for possibly indefinitely
How does -Tia stay losing?

>> No.2695701 [DELETED] 

Unlike most people here who will never be Japanese, she will never be North American

>> No.2695741

She used Hololive to sneak her way into the good graces of the twitch variety streamer inner circle with Sodapoppin and Moonmoon but I guess she was to force shut that down
Basically she's stupid

>> No.2695751
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2695751

>>2695609

>> No.2695814

She was literally allowed to stream on Twitch for the entirety of her life as Artia and wasn't kicked out due to any "political hissy fit" she had. These (probably taiwanese) narratives about Tia keep getting crazier and crazier.

>> No.2695965

>>2695814
She lost her job because she was born chinese and shares an ethnic background with brainwashed psychopaths.
Her "playing both sides of the table" mentality is what lost her good graces with reddit, not Cover Corp.

>> No.2695995

>>2695609
Yeah, I think after her shadowban last June and break down during the drama it's clear she doesn't handle stress well, and trying to balance streaming to two audiences regularly during the same time as finals probably isn't the best idea. If I were a streamer I'd probably take most of the last two weeks of school off to study; forcing yourself sounds like a good way to procrastinate on work, not be prepared for your exams and fail your classes.
>>2695751
Wait hold up, is she sending Pepsi, Coke or both? This is important.

>> No.2696018

>>2695965
cope

>> No.2696037

>>2695609
Tia deserves everything bad that's happened to her. It was ridiculous that /hlg/ gave her so much love back on /jp/ when she was all the worst shit people worried EN would end up being, when EN turned out more or less perfectly fine.

Artia was a meme spouting Twitch kid who gets political, chased trends and had no professionalism. But we had people defending her as the retard little sister experience like that was a good thing.

>> No.2696042

>>2696018
what's cope? facts are cope?

>> No.2696061

Probably makes more money from chinese and is bailing on Twitch. She seems to get shit views on there anyway.

>> No.2696071
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2696071

Don't care, love Tia.

>> No.2696098

>>2696061
She doesn't care about money, she has enough to live overseas anyways. She wants to be like her idol XQC

>> No.2696101

>>2695965
Cover also tried to play both sides tho

>> No.2696111

>>2695995
For me? I prefer Sproke.

>> No.2696120

>>2695965
This honestly. She tried to find a compromise in her own weird way, but got mislabled as the leading anti in the end because she didn't choose her words carefully.

>> No.2696166

>>2695609
>Tia was the first holomember to be a reddit mod in the sub
I don't know Anon, how could that happen?

>> No.2696187

>>2696037
This, anyone who likes her just outs themselves as a twitchfag.

>> No.2696194

>>2696037
>Artia was a meme spouting Twitch kid who gets political, chased trends and had no professionalism

Yeah but she was funny about it and provided entertainment value. That trumps everything. Her politics are basically "Let's all live together as one happy family" while being patriotic for a country that is opposed to that.

>> No.2696207

>>2696120
Weren't the siren one and the book lady the main chink supporters?

>> No.2696222

>>2696098
All chinese care about money.

>> No.2696304

>>2696194
I've honestly never even heard her talk about China at all.

>> No.2696352
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2696352

>>2696207
Siren there's no 100% proof against her aside from her watching the WW stream with Tia, book girl although was actively telling her viewers to spam reddit dragon's streams. If anything, she's the biggest culprit out of the 6.

>> No.2696403

she chose the chinks over hololive. if i cared about my country i'd probably make the same choice.
that being said she should lie in her own bed.
and also i would never defend my country trying to get an innocent girl to kill herself.

i don't care how autistic you are, holo cn had a chance to calm the anti's down against the japanese branch and they did nothing. artia would do it all again if she didn't know china didn't give a shit about her.

>> No.2696408

>>2696098
>She doesn't care about money
Riiight which is why she was complaining about how she COULD of become rich if she invested in the right stocks when Trump was still President before the massive yab that got them all fired.

"Oh you guys don't care about that because you guys don't care about money."

>> No.2696442

>>2696408
I'd be a millionaire if I invested in GME, we all can bitch about our misses in life

>> No.2696483

>>2696352
Is there even proof of that?
You'd think someone out of a country with 100 billion people would have archived that.

>> No.2696542

>>2696098
>she has enough to live overseas
Her parents have enough. Judas has never worked a day in her life.

>> No.2696562

>>2696352
Too bad, she had the best design out of all of them.

>> No.2696597

>>2696483
If they did it'd be in fucking Chinese wouldn't it? On some Chinese website.

>> No.2696603

>>2696403
The talents themselves shouldn't have to put their own asses on the line to defend someone who doesn't give a fuck about them. They of course shouldn't aggravate it or egg people on, but none of the girls had a future outside of the Chinese market and defending Coco and Cover would just leave them with no future at all.

>> No.2696610

>>2696403
"calming antis down" means you disagree with the country's nationalism
they had no choice but to publicly egg on the antis to avoid being doxxed then executed by them
you have no idea how fucked up politics are over there, holoCN had no choice but to become the villains, graduate, and move on to their reincarnations
maybe some of the members in that branch enjoyed watching the fiasco unfold, but they had no choice regardless if they enjoyed it or not

>> No.2696648

>>2696597
Maybe the experts in these threads who know what definitely happened in the HoloCN fiasco could find them then?

>> No.2696691

>>2696352
>>2696207
All of them are guilty of plotting to fuck over their employer to win brownie points with the Communist regime. These are their crimes on top of that:
>Artia: Made statements of how Cover was going to give them their Live2D avatar before any official announcement is made, watched Wolf Warrior on stream during Coco's suspension, old stream on Bilibili told how she participated in an internet raid against Taiwan and is proud of it, sang Take Over in her final stream
>Rosalyn: Retweeted suspension tweet, encouraged chinks to keep up the fight in two different streams
>Civia: Unfollowed Coco on twitter, Joined in the dogwhistle posting on twitter, leaked her voice packs on her birthday. Originally planned to form a group during the drama with just her and Artia before it became "All of them"(-minus Yogiri)
>Doris: Watched Wolf Warrior (CCP nationalist film) with Artia
>Echo: First one to make her post-holo bili account, led the exodus, sticks with the other 4
Also, Artia is seriously hideous. She's as shit on the outside as she is on the inside.

>> No.2696712

>>2696562
Eh she was my 2nd favorite, I liked Artia's the best since the unique art-style was kind of captivating for some reason
Kind of hoping HoloEN will be the same in the aspect where 2nd Gen designs>>>1st Gen's.

>> No.2696737

>>2696691
>all those nothingburgers
Yawn

>> No.2696797

>>2696691
>Artia: Nothing
>Ros: Encouraged spam
>Civia: Unfollowed Coco on Twitter
>Doris: Movie-watching collab with her friend.
>Echo: Guilt by association.

>> No.2696823

>>2696691
Any proof on the Echo thing? Last year's threads made it sound like she was blind-sided by the graduation announcement and didn't want to leave. Just assumed she was innocent like Yogiri.

>> No.2696886

>>2696823
Proof of what, that she made a BiliBili account?It's a nothing burger.

>> No.2696894

>>2696403
Unfortunately that would be Civia... at least Tia will come back eventually, but Civia has rarely ever addressed her English audience even though she graduated on Youtube.
>>2696207
Doris got canceled because she backstabbed her former coworkers before hololive, groomed an old dude for an iphone and tried to defame Echo. She's a manipulative whore and based on her behavior and history compared to the others, my rrat is that she purposely chose that movie for the watchalong to harm the situation as much as possible. She literally backstabbed her former colleagues and tried to slander Echo at the very end of all the shit happening, and got canceled as a result. Artia's history is consistent with her behavior of being immature, unprofessional and cracking under pressure, while Doris' history is consistent with her being a scheming cunt.
>>2696352
When did she say that? All I know about is her complaining about losing her job on her alt, which is unprofessional but not the worst thing ever.

>> No.2696972

>Zhangs and Zhang expats to the frozen wastelands of LeafZhangistan are utter scum
Well imagine my shock.

>> No.2696981

>>2696603
>>2696610
look there is sympathy to be found here. nonetheless if they aren't willing to take some heat for hololive and/or their coworkers, why should hololive be willing to take some heat/burdens for them?
if you're going to justify it as rational survival then hololive is more than justified in cutting them off without their avatars. after all, the anti's would be emboldened and their current talents would get the impression they can leave with everything after hololive foots the bill for their model, advertisements, networking, training, managers, etc.

reality is you can't expect others to put more into a relationship than you yourself are putting in. i wont say every company deserves care beyond the basic contract, but entertainment is clearly a different beast -- beyond that if you don't give your company any value beyond a paycheck why should your company give any value to you beyond a surplus value laborer?

realistically hololive cn could've done something. it's hard to know the exact results but staying in hololive's good graces is almost guaranteed.
do you think hololive enjoyed losing their investment on those girls? or pulling back? it was a tactical quarantine due to their lack of control.
their talents were part of the cancer and had to go.
what if the talents weren't part of the cancer? could've it been salvaged? could've they cut below the talents, letting the bilinguals continue on in other branches? nicer separations for those who aren't bilingual?

this much is obvious. hololive saw all of them as a part of the cancer which couldn't be salvaged without letting the cancer have a chance of spreading further. they could've done something to make themselves NOT look and act like cancer.
like not leaking dealings. or encouraging fans to harass hololive. or throwing twitter temper tantrums. or going out and batting for hololive.

>> No.2697000

I looked up the summary for Wolf Warrior and it just seems like Chinese Rambo? Yeah the badguys are Americans but they're just mercenaries. It's like 90s and 2000s American movies using "Russian separatists" or "Russian gangsters" as the bagduys all the time. Am I missing something more overtly hostile?

>> No.2697037

>>2696823
>>2696797
Echo was a whore who despised her fans: See: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7194867041?share_from=post?share=9105&fr=share&share_from=post&unique=4A0D3A0D374BABB8F12E291B1635D928&st=1610863693&client_type=1&client_version=12.2.6&sfc=copy&share_from=comment&red_tag=1861143370
TLDR version:
>Echo has a rich boyfriend in america and is gonna marry him next year
>>Wants to collab with males in Virtual Real but manager didnt allow it
>Blatantly calls her fans dumb otakus and she is just milking them
>Ignores manager’s advice and fucked some Virtual Real guy named Aza in an off collab
>Talks with manager after sex saying she found out Aza has a gf and they are both cheating so its cool, manager warns her not to reveal too much about herself as it can bite her in the ass

>> No.2697039

>>2697000
It "Chinese bad and American is good" and that all

>> No.2697070

>>2697000
I think, yeah, but a better example might be something like Red Dawn since the first Rambo movie was about how shitty Americans treated veterans after the Vietnam War.

>> No.2697093

>>2697039
I've never seen Wolf Warrior so I can't speak on it, but most American war movies are jingoistic nationalist garbage too.

>> No.2697097

>>2697070
Red Dawn is literally Russia invading and occupying the mainland US. Seems a bit different.

>> No.2697230

>>2697097
True, it's more like 1984.

>> No.2697236

>>2697097
So more like the Rambo movie where he goes to Afghanistan and helps the muhadjeen fight the soviets.

>> No.2697274

>>2697236
Gotcha, I've only seen the first movie and read part of the first book.

>> No.2697312

>>2696691
>sang Take Over in her final stream
The League song? Was that to screw over Aqua or something?

>> No.2697314

>>2697037
>Echo was a whore who despised her fans:
Given the voice she used, it makes sense that she would. The only surprise is the NTR.

>> No.2697336

>>2696207
>>2696403
>>2696972
Kys racists

>> No.2697350

>>2696981
>do you think hololive enjoyed losing their investment on those girls?
Did you miss the letter Cover sent out last year where it's explained "overseas vtubing isn't profittable yet"? Before the EOP explosion last summer, Hololive was making barely over minimum wage and had to roommate with each other to keep their profits up. CN and ID make less than half those profits due to being less popular and their countries shitty laws against youtube/youtube's superchat system. Civia and Artia could bypass this due to them being abroad in NA.

Hololive isn't some Hugh Heffner tycoon, it's a small company that pays a little too much for top of the line artists and riggers while following Yagoo's crazy dream of uniting the world through idol v-tubing. Point is, the CN branch had barely anything to lose by quitting because they were getting shit pay since the JP girls were more popular in China anyways. Getting the Hololive fame, quitting, and being scouted by China-owned v-tubing companies was the best move for them.

Overall both countries making business deals with each other is the true enemy here since politics and their centuries old feud always fucks them over in the end.

>> No.2697372

>>2697037
>>2697314
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWtA1s7Hbq4

>> No.2697425

what the fuck is an antituber

>> No.2697448

>>2697425
they are from zootube

>> No.2697451

>>2697425
Anime youtuber. Remember all those "anime/manga review" channels?

>> No.2697460

>>2695609
>How does -Tia stay losing?
She took a portion of her hololive following and transitioned into being an indie pretty well while moving on from the CN drama, she averages like 300 - 400 viewers on twitch which is pretty good a for an indie, idk her bilibili numbers
If anything I'd say she came out the situation fairly unscathed, obviously the best scenario would've been if Cover let her keep the "Artita" character but in retrospect Cover was never really gonna do that and was probably just trying to damage control the fuck-feast that the taiwan saga
I think being indie an suits her better anyways because she never fit in with the rest of hololive, I'd say she had a better connection with the overwatch community on twitch than most of hololive

>> No.2697463

>>2697451
Like the one Mori was on?

>> No.2697516

>>2697350
The idea wasn't to make money immediately off the CN branch but rather to get into the massive CN market, get deals and sponsorships and grow the brand there over time. Hololive got hurt more by lost future growth opportunities than it did on existing investment. It's not something they wanted to do or would have done just because CN was no immediately profitable, but because they were forced into it by their branch being used as political hostages by Chinese nationalists.

>> No.2697526

>>2697037
>乐府刚宣布当鲁路修诈死,魔女的V眼看着在泥哥那要洗白,黑桃影的谣言就又出来了,只能说再想想
I can't tell from Google Translate if this comment is talking about the screenshots or spoiling the ending of Code Geass.

>> No.2697540

>>2697463
Yes but most of them are even worse

>> No.2697567

>>2697037
this was all proven to be a lie manufactured by Doris and Echo had to apologize to Aza for Doris randomly trying to throw him into beef Doris had with her

>> No.2697569

>>2697037
Anon, Echo had wanted to bail and threatened to do so a few times way before the china arc. I don't know why leading the exodus is a crime on her part.

>> No.2697622

>>2697425
The dipshits who try and dictate to the MAL sheep about whether they're allowed to like a series or not. They're all the worst kinds of social parasites. I think one of them became a tranny too.

>> No.2697653

>>2697622
Which one is a tranny?

>> No.2697688

>>2697463
what channel was mori on?

>> No.2697710

>>2697688
Trash Taste

>> No.2697770

>>2697516
It's true the investment could've paid off in the long run, but it was a risky deal regardless and Cover had to be walking on eggshells the entire time. While yes the CN could've handled that situation 10x better, they were still on the shit end of the stick since they socially had to side with the nationalists regardless of their own beliefs or professionalism. Plus you have to remember most of these girls are college freshmen/sophmores and don't have enough life skills as an adult to understand that the long term investment would've paid off far greater than their reincarnations would ever do.

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>>2697567
This is proven to be a lie manufactured by Echo to ruin Doris' reputation.

>> No.2697826

>>2697622
Is that why I see so many MAL users looking trying to find out what other people's tastes are, whether other people like certain anime and over analyzing how people enjoy and rate shit in the forums? I assumed that was just regular autism.

>> No.2697854

>>2697803
Doris ruined her own reputation and earned everything that happened to her. Hope she's happy with herself because she deserves it.

>> No.2697861

>>2697653
>>2697622
I assume he's talking about Digibro?

>> No.2697864

>>2697653
digibro

>> No.2697895

>>2697653
Digibro a.k.a. the /a/ approved youtuber and he ended up becoming a fucking tranny that moved to an expensive apartment just to get more weed and deleted 80% his anime content after transitioning. /a/ and other sites with gate-keeping culture on what anime to watch have been eternally BTFO'd since then.

>> No.2697929

>>2696691
I'm seeing a case of young girls(probably late teens/early 20s) that don't know the consequences of their own actions and are getting heavily influenced by internet culture and the ideal "CCP" image.

>> No.2697954

>>2697861
>>2697864
>>2697895
Never watch him?her?. Normally just watch gigguk's or animeman's season preview to find anything that flew under my radar.

>> No.2697967

>>2697770
Not true since they'd have to give most of their money to bili/cover. They probably make more now.

>> No.2697985

>>2697895
Seems /a/ definitely got immensely worse since I left in 2010-12 period when all the offsiters flooded it. To this day I still do not know where the fuck all of them came from.

>> No.2698001

>>2697954
Honestly some of Digi's old content was decent, but I haven't watched any of it for years

>> No.2698020

>>2696037
Well said.

>> No.2698069

>>2698001
I don't watch fan made content about shows anymore. GoT and the shitshow around it ruined any interest in theories and reviews.

>> No.2698127

>>2698069
Same. I feel like it's aimed at braindead people who need to be told what to think about something.

>> No.2698192

>>2697985
Eh just keep your memories of old /a/ alive and never revisit, it's no longer the funposting haven it used to be.
The most it gets is an /a/sings or /a/draws once every 2-3 years, watchalongs although are no longer fun due to the people that this site has attracted over the past 7 years.

>> No.2698193

>>2697854
Doris didn't deserve to be slandered and un-personed. Echo should be ashamed.

>> No.2698240

>>2698127
A lot of it is but sometimes you can miss little things in anime that others point out that can make you appreciate it more.

>> No.2698251

>>2697460
>>2697460
She's an indie or under a new agency? Why did she say in her discord chat that she has a current contract? With whom? I don't get it.

>> No.2698312

>>2698251
She's in an agency with Rola (Rosalyn) and one other vtuber.

>> No.2698342

>>2698251
People thought she was indie and hired a friend to make a L2D model for her, but now we know that wasn't the case

>> No.2698355

>>2696101
And that's why people are willing to blame them for things.

>> No.2698362

>>2697967
He'ss talking about the long run. Companies won't with an indie unless you're very popular on your platform. That's why you need Corporate leverage if you want that sponsorship money. Honestly it was a lose2 for Hololive and CN. But hololive can collab with non CN Companies and CN Companies on the future once this all dies down.

>> No.2698412

>>2698342
>now
You mean when she debuted. Also idk if it's a real company or just a group like AtoLive.

>> No.2698428

>>2697929
Name a woman of any age who knows the consequences of their own actions.

>> No.2698445

>>2698362
I mean Tia and Rola were both sponsored by Crosair at least on their debut.

>> No.2698456

>>2696101
Even reddit shat on Cover for the 3 week suspension. Saying they were bowing to China, Check the posts in r/hololive at that time. That's the reason why I partially blame reddit in fanning the flames with CN but honestly I can't blame them as I am also pissed at Cover for suspending the two.

>> No.2698508

>>2698412
Since VOMs has contracts too, I'd say it's likely a company even if it's small.

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>>2698456
>Check the posts in r/hololive at that time

>> No.2698671

>>2698362
>But hololive can collab with non CN Companies and CN Companies on the future once this all dies down.
You're awfully optimistic there Jimmy.

>> No.2698686

>>2696691
>Echo: Literally nothing

>> No.2698703

>>2698671
I'm still salty about Gura not being able to show off her muse dash skills.

>> No.2698754

>>2698671
they have to stop being spergs eventually....

right?

>> No.2698781

>>2696098
>mainland chinese
>doesn't care about money
money is literally the religion of mainland china anon
they pray to money, for money, while thinking about how to get more money
the average mainlander would completely sell out their family for enough money

>> No.2698791

Spammer used her discord as basement for attacking Hololive.

Her mod know about it but help them by protect spammer and Artia shill about it at that time.

We can say Artia support spammer indirectly by cover spammer's existance in her discord and create good enviroment for spam Coco.

> If she chose to stop Andy that day, she may survive today

>> No.2698926

>>2697000
hello /u/chinesemaple

>> No.2699032

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEPTCQUEI0

TIA (inevitable in China) RAPE

>> No.2699138

>>2698754
If anything the nationalism is getting worse in china

>> No.2699301

>>2699138
there was like no nationalism
people were proud China went from shithole to a real country, but it was understood they weren't anything special and that the country still needed a lot of work
with Xi the brainwashing and control has went into Mao levels and you have people starving in cities while everyone blames it on the west

>> No.2699509

>>2699032
I always think it's interesting how fast he went from being a big supporter of China until the government wanted him captured.

>> No.2699536

>>2695609
Why such a chinese goblin using such a classy setting and avatar?

>> No.2699543

>>2699509
he was a "supporter" because the guy had a daughter and wife and lived in China
He still likes China, just can't stand the CCP

>> No.2699730

>>2699543
>He still likes China, just can't stand the CCP
This is basically everyone.

>> No.2700019

>>2699730
not in China or for Chinese nationals overseas though which is a problem

>> No.2700209

>>2699509
The guy is an idiot he moved to the US because he wanted to get away from crime

>> No.2700586

>>2700209
Hi zhang
He moved to the US because he didn't want to end up in a cell like his friend Micheal, and didn't want his daughter getting grabbed by some chink and pushed into a beggar scheme.

>> No.2700648

>>2700586
Was he born in China?

>> No.2700736

>>2700648
lived there for 15 years or so
born in SA and obviously couldn't stay there as a white guy
everyone who lives in china and leaves says the same things as him desu

>> No.2700746

>>2700586
His daughter is going to be far safer in China then the US lol

>> No.2700771

>>2700746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnN_Bqu14s
right

>> No.2700778

>>2700736
>obviously couldn't stay there as a white guy
That was my point he moved from South Africa to the US even though the US has significantly higher racial attacks on whites.

>> No.2700834

>>2700778
>US has more racial attacks on whites than SA
holy shit anon you are retarded I want some of your brain to snort off a hookers stomach

>> No.2700848

>>2700771
More children are reported abducted or missing from the US than any other nation on Earth.

>> No.2700852

>>2700778
Do you know how I can tell you don't live in the US?

>> No.2700890

>>2700834
>>2700852
The numbers are on the FBI website not to mention even the any white tire rack of America is considered to extreme by the ANC

>> No.2700948

>tia thread
>devolves into discussion of apparent South African "hate crimes" against whites
Sasuga /vt/

>> No.2701032

>>2700848
>reported
this is just a plus for the US

>> No.2701060

>>2701032
Mutt logic

>> No.2701076

>>2700890
>not to mention even the any white tire rack of America is considered to extreme by the ANC
what did it mean by this?

>> No.2701107

>>2701060
>if you don't report it, it doesn't exist
chink logic?

>> No.2701150

>>2701107
Did you even watch the video you posted? Even it said numbers are officially documented in China

>> No.2701181

>>2701150
no he never said that chink, he said there is a website where you can track stolen children and some of them are returned to their parents
china doesn't even have amber alerts lol
"safer for the daughter" kek

>> No.2701209

>>2701181
>china doesn't even have amber alerts
What does that have to do with official record keeping?

>> No.2701224

>>2701209
Yes yes, and China doesn't have covid despite everyone walking around wearing masks for the past year

>> No.2701265
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>>2701181
>safer for the daughter" kek
Yes in addition to the out of control child abduction rate the US is the middle of a wave of extremist anti Asain violence. Fueled mostly by this very website

>> No.2701283

>>2701265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-quZy2eF6k&
your shit stopped working zhang

>> No.2701315

>>2701283
>Cancel culture
Save it for britbart lol

>> No.2701367

>>2701315
you do know the left calls it cancel culture too, they just think its a good force
you're such a bad propagandist zhang bro

>> No.2701371

>>2696691
>Wolf Warrior

That shit is not any worse than any of the hundreds of bullshit Hollywood movies about glorious US military.

>> No.2701430

>>2701371
name one made in the past 20 years besides American Sniper which was hated

>> No.2701465

>>2701371
Yeah I doubt it's any could be any worse propagandizing then Saving Private Ryan or Zero Dark 30

>> No.2701508

>chinese coming into tia's thread to argue how good china is and how bad the US is
don't you realize you're just making it worse for her?
or do you seriously care that little about her

>> No.2701532

>>2701430
Iron Man.

>> No.2701552

>>2701430
U-571
Argo
Olympus has fallen
The Patriot
Red
Zero Dark 30
Pearl harbor
The sum of all fears

>> No.2701586

>>2701552
none of those are like wolf warrior
but I don't expect Chinese to understand the art of cinema

>> No.2701629

>>2701552
That's not even mentioning video games like Cawa doddy, Socom ect

>> No.2701682

>>2701586
Are you seriously trying to argue a Tom Clancy movie isn't "nationalist"

>> No.2701723

>>2701682
not at all
do you read his books? this would be like calling MGS "nationalist" because snake is a US agent

>> No.2701771

>>2701723
Are you seriously comparing Tom Clancy to MGS lamo

>> No.2701809

>>2701771
and here's a guy that's never read his books or watched the movie's he's talking about
you're using a VPN, do something else beside defend the motherlands retarded government and culture yourself

>> No.2701826

>>2700019
the 90's HK escapees here don't like the CCP. not sure about the latest batch of escapees

I only know one mainlander (from a prominent scholar family in Beijing.) she is somehow part of 灵粮堂 and kept out of any talk of CCP shenanigans. but did divorced her CCP loving husband.

KMT used to have strong propaganda machines here but now the Falun Gong has taken over that market with NTDTV and Epoch Times

>> No.2701857

>>2701430
Cinema changed a lot after 9/11, that's why James Bond was rebooted as a gritty realistic movie series years after the earlier installment. Action movies turned into stuff like the Michael Bay films and the Superhero movie genre while war became a touchy subject since it was actually happening because of a national tragedy. So no shit the only movies left dealing with it are going to be more grounded.

>> No.2701917

>>2701857
so? it means the american public has mostly moved on from nationalistic retardation while china goes full stop into "muh superior han way of life, please stop washing your hands after using the toilet it's offensive to China!"

>> No.2701936

The CCP is the greatest, I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>> No.2702036

>>2701917
I'm not one for politics, but the U.S. was nationalistically retarded from 2016 up until the pandemic. I was under the impression that nowadays neither the U.S. or Chinese public were fans of the government with the difference being that in the U.S. you can actually tako bout it.

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>> No.2702103

>>2702036
a portion of the US yeah, and that portion is dying as we speak
China loves the government because the government controls fucking everything they read or think about
They think China isn't racist, and the US is super racist because its presented like fact to them
They think China doesn't have problems with human trafficking because their epsteins don't get caught because there is no rule of law and the news about such cases are scrubbed and hidden
They think China is trying to HELP Japan, SK, and taiwan, while the US treats them as colonies like the UK treated India, because that's what everyone around them says as the government postures and controls information

>> No.2702179

>>2695609
Wumao bitch, please continue to take Ls.

>> No.2702225

>>2698342
So she's getting fucked by the Bilibili tax and agency tax rumao
Those retards told me she was making bank, I'm never trusting another word out of an artiafag's mouth.

>> No.2702301

>>2702103
Yeah I have seen hypocritical stuff like that from them before. It's kind of weird since I'll occasionally see conflicting information too. Like one thing is that apparently the government is fine with lgbt people but then donghua adaptations of bl novels get censored to be not gay at all. I kind of get how both could be true, but it's still weird to me.

>> No.2702361

>>2700890
If you live outside of any major city, you have no issue with being mugged, jumped, or shot by wild negroes. Black on black violence is the main issue in almost every inner city that isn't majority Hispanic. Problem is, tourists tend to only go to the major cities and have a skewed view of America. Go 15 miles outside of NYC and it's lily white suburbs and little crime.

>> No.2702371

>>2701508
Even her mod do not care about her.
They protect spammer and use Artia as tool

>> No.2702392

>>2702371
I feel bad for her, even her "western fans" are insane tankies it seems

>> No.2702405

I've never watched Artia but she makes Cocofags seethe so I like her automatically.

>> No.2702428

>2702405
no, you won't get your dopamine boost

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>> No.2702499

Artia's new model is actually a huge improvement over Artia. (Paryi's art just doesn't seem to translate well into live2d, Ars kind of has a similar problem)

It was a real shame the quality of Live2D models that were lost when the CN branch was nuked. Rosalyn, Yogiri, and Echo especially. Kagura Nana's designs are top tier considering Ayame's design almost carried her to success by itself.

>> No.2702512

>>2702392
Spammers are Chinese who live in Japan.

>> No.2702519

>>2702456
THE SENTINEL OF HOLOLIVE
THE CANARY IN THE MINE
THE SLAYER OF THE CHINKS

>> No.2702545

>>2702512
yeah but her western fans post shit like this
>>2701936
>>2702405

>> No.2702618

>>2702545
Do you know about United front of wolf warrior?

1. Become enemy and make enemy trust them
2. Causing drama
3. Divided and conquer.

>> No.2702769

>>2702078
Mea LOVE?

>> No.2702859

>>2702545
Wolf warror like to act as westerner or their's enemy. They are fluently 3 languages Mandarin , English and Nihongo.

But they are weak to someone who know 4 languages like SEAniggers
(Indonesia : Bahasa ,Philippin : Tagalok and Vietnam)

>> No.2702998

>>2702456
I KNEEL FUBUKI-SAMA

>> No.2703026

>>2702859
Nigga pick a language and speak it, I stumbled upon this thread and all I can say is I'm fucking sick of SEAmonkeys who think their pidgin-speak counts as English. You can shitpost your geopolitical fantasies in bangaranlong language or whatever it is you speak but please stop trying to speak English.

>> No.2703090

>>2703026
shut the fuck up kid
yes seanigs have trouble speaking English, and a lot of them are schizos, but anyone speaking two languages is leagues better than you and will always be
but it's infinitely better than your kind, the kind that is proud of being ignorant and just swallows what they want to be true

>> No.2703125

>>2703026
Who care?

>> No.2703361

>>2703026
Milk-tea alliance is winner in the latest internet warfare aganist wolf warrior in Twitter because Seanigger can expose wolf warrior easily but wolf warrior never expect SEAnigger can use Mandarin fluently.

>> No.2703857

wolf warriors are the racistest in the world.

White not racist aganist white
Black not racist aganist black
But wolf warrior are racist aganist yellowr people and call them " monkey"

>> No.2703937

>>2703857
most people in the US or Canada aren't racist either. It's just propaganda because the CCP fears the children of rich party members' becoming aware of how terrible they really are.

>> No.2704176

>>2703937
I just want to tell you that Wolf warriors are worsen than KKK in US but unironically they are considered as good people in China.

>> No.2704186

>>2701936
Incredibly based. And Hecatia Love.

>> No.2704212

>>2704176
yes, modern China is a society built on hypocrisy and lies

>> No.2704302

>>2701936
>The CCP is the greatest, I'm tired of pretending, it's not.
fixed but sorry about your impending disappearance

>> No.2704334

>>2695609
>How does -Tia stay losing?
She still lives rent free in your minds, she still gets constant threads only about her. She will be remembered even if she graduates again unlike other vtubers who fade away into nothing.

>> No.2704365

>>2704334
>remembered
lol

>> No.2704410

>>2704334

i literally just found out that this stupid bitch came back and is already on the verge of her second retirement, had my laugh, and now i'm onto the next thing

just thought you should know that there are also people to whom artia is a disposable joke

>> No.2704411

>>2704365
Take your copium along with your meds schizo.

>> No.2704435

>>2704365
I'll remember and post about Tia as long as I live, fagchama.

>> No.2704436

>>2704410
>i literally just found out
Hi newfag, enjoy your stay at the asylum.

>> No.2704476

>>2704334
Remembered as who?
> "Judas" if she really involve about attack Hololive
> " disposeable tool for nationalist" if she really innocent

I feel only pity to her fate

>> No.2704501

>>2704435
and for every one of you, there are hundreds of fans for every single holo that will remember them far longer than you will care about your little china girl.
>>2704411
cope? my oshi is marine, there is actually zero chance tia will ever be remembered anywhere near as long and by nearly as many people as her.

>> No.2704520

>>2704476
The only conclusion you will ever be able to come to is an analytical one.

>> No.2704562

>>2704520
WHAT DID ZHANG MEAN BY THIS?

>> No.2704589

>>2704562
bitch what

>> No.2704630

>>2704589
no seriously what the fuck is that statement supposed to imply

>> No.2704651

>>2704630
nothing, it literally means that we'll never have hard evidence of shit so you need to come to your own conclusion. It wasn't that deep

>> No.2704704

>>2696037
Yeah but she's a cute Asian girl and HoloEn is just cringe ass white e-girls (excluding Ina).

>> No.2704708

>>2704651
but there's hard evidence of her harboring spammers in her discord here
I also want you to google analytic and understand it's meaning because you used it wrong, if that was what you wanted to post

>> No.2704710

>>2704476
Nice framing, but the truth is she neither betrayed her people or shilled for a gay corporation that was planning to fire her anyway as all the evidence points to. Meanwhile, reddit dragon can't insult a shitty Hollywood version of Monster Hunter because she is scared about Capcom permissions being revoked. Anti-Cover posting happens all the time on this board but you same fags then turn around and pretend that Tia was wrong to see right through their bullshit.

>> No.2704711

>>2704630
>The only conclusion you will ever be able to come to is an analytical one.
By analyzing the events at hand one would come to the logical conclusion you have. But that's bad, so you should just beleeb in Chinks instead.

>> No.2704740

>>2704520
Then I must answer this

> " Streammer who was betrayed my her own fanclub and use her as weapon and become trash to them"

Fanclub reflect their's oshi

>> No.2704746

>>2704710
>see through their bullshit
revisionism is China's favorite pass time

>> No.2704774

>>2704708
bruh

>> No.2704775

>>2704501
I can say unironically that Tia has made a positive impact in my life. I don't care if some other chuubas have more fans, nothing anyone says will negate that she is a meaningful and positive entity in the world.

>> No.2704810

>>2704775
>meaningful and positive entity in the world.
nah, making an idiot happy doesn't negate what she did

>> No.2704844

>>2704774
you must fail your english course at school
that is some fine misuse of the english language

>> No.2704872

>>2695609
Whats?

>>2701430
Battle: L.A.

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this thread is fucking awful go to /pol/ or /int/ please.

>> No.2704892

>>2704774
They " really have it" and they even have evidence about Artia mod know about it too.

>> No.2704894

>>2704844
Fuck off with your off topic bullshit. I used analysis correctly and if you're too braindead to process it then that's on you.

>> No.2704897

>>2704810
Likewise, a patchwork narrative spun from schizophrenia rather than facts does not trump reality. You're part of a Reddit-tier circlejerk against Tia. Sad!

>> No.2704916

>>2704894
no you really didn't, there is nothing negative about an analytical approach to anything, which is why you using the word as if it absolves Artia is pretty funny

>> No.2704952

>>2704897
>reality
the reality your bitch just dropped you and is stuck on billibilli being a mouth piece of the party
lol, keep winning bro

>> No.2704957

I just find it funny in a Kafkaesque way that all of this arose out of the wrong flag showing up on youtube

>> No.2704962

>>2703361
Can't you guys just relax and take your positions as our protectorates? I understand your concerns about Chinese encroachment but don't be so obnoxious about it, EOPs don't like being told what to think and tend to do the opposite of what's popular at a given time.

>> No.2704966

>>2704916
When the fuck did I absolve Artia of shit? I said people ultimately have to come to their own conclusion based on the facts, whether it be negative, positive or neutral.

>> No.2704986

>>2704890
why? so you can brainwash new hololive fans into forgetting what china did?
>>2704966
and your post did not imply anything like that
use your words nigger

>> No.2704989

>>2704957
There's something almost cyberpunk about it. You could write an academic monograph about it imo.

>> No.2705003

>>2704897
> Artia who was betrayed by her own discord and her fanclub.

You find Artia's enemy in a wrong place. Anon

>> No.2705020 [DELETED] 

>>2704916
When the fuck did I absolve Artia of shit? I said that people will ultimately have to come to analyze the facts and come to their own conclusions whether it be negative, positive or neutral.

>> No.2705035

>>2705003
it's actually sad, they think we're the reason tia's life is hard
bitch, no one even spammed the whore on twitch from here, we don't care at all about her beyond when you people try to post she's innocent
her life is hard because she's Chinese from China, and you people keep pretending like that isn't the main problem in her life.
Laughable.

>> No.2705052

>>2704986
bitch it isn't my fault if you can't use your brain to process and understand basic sentences

>> No.2705061

>>2704957
It's pretty fascinating. Weird world.
>>2704952
I will keep winning, just as long as you keep seething over the CCP boogeyman and its chuuba avatar.

>> No.2705064

>>2704989
For sure. Being American, I'm used to some schizo shit (like angry americans burning their nikes) but getting triggered by someone LOOKING at a flag..
Am I in the right fucking timeline?

>> No.2705071

>>2705020
>>2704966
zhang-chama are you ok?!

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Why are the posters in this thread who are zhangposting speaking english at a third grade level. Is this some kind of 4D chess false flag to make people who don't like holoCN look like retarded SEAnigs?

>> No.2705103

>>2705071
4chan was being AIDs and wasn't updating. Reposting fixed it.

>> No.2705142

>>2705087
Yes.

>> No.2705154

>>2705061
>boogeyman
your own girl has been "reeducated" by the CCP
she was raped
you don't care

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they're all cunts anyways

>> No.2705211

>>2705154
>she was raped
Ogey. I care about Tia, but I don't spend my thoughts on the fanciful delusions of schizophrenics.

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>>2705142
respect zhang, I think I'd rather suck Xi's 3" cock than associate with anyone in this thread.

>> No.2705222

>>2705211
Yeah you don't give a shit about her at all.

>> No.2705278

>>2705211
>anything bad about china is a DELUSION
holy shit the west is doomed

>> No.2705306

>>2705220
Oh not me personally but there's no way people can fuck up there sentences that badly on accident. Grammar mistakes are one thing but constantly misspelling shit too takes extra effort.

>> No.2705312

>>2705154
>>2705222
https://youtu.be/1L8UwrYxpYo

>> No.2705359

>>2705306
*their
fucking kek

>> No.2705362

>>2701265
Wtf are you doing here. I'm korean-american and I can't believe you are falling for this shit.

>> No.2705364

>>2705222
You clearly have a powerful imagination. Sort of a Mamiya Takuji type. I hope you use that imagination for something productive

>> No.2705393

>>2701265
>Yes in addition to the out of control child abduction rate the US is the middle of a wave of extremist anti Asain violence. Fueled mostly by this very website
Anon, this is just proof you've never been to the U.S. The media is just trying to make news. The vast majority of people here don't even think about Asians.

>> No.2705435

>>2705035
She should stop Andy when she has a chance to do it.

Her's mod should expose Andy and exile him before Hololive CN was axed.

They really have chance and time to turn around the fate but they chose to help spammer instead.

I will tell again

> Artia was killed by her own discord

>> No.2705438

>>2705312
>meds, china has never done anything bad to its own people!
kek

>> No.2705444

>>2705278
>muh fall of the west
Absolute retard. But I said nothing of the CCP, just the claim that Tia was raped in a reeducation camp. Do your reading comprehension reps.

>> No.2705470

>>2697526
kek

>> No.2705477

>>2705362
it's crazy, i think they must be really young like this poster
>>2705364
who thinks it's all just my "imagination"
we need to start getting this kind of thinking out of our communities as Asians

>> No.2705564

>>2705444
>camp
lol no, they just raped her in the police station when they reeducated her, which you do know happened, she talked about it before, just not the rape
the rape is my guess considering the reality of China and how the "reeducate" women.

>> No.2705656

>>2697622
There was only one good anituber and he's dead

>> No.2705704

>>2705656
Who

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>>2705704

>> No.2705798

>>2705477
>>2705564
I'm not Asian, but what kind of thinking are you trying to eliminate from Asian communities? My whole point in this conversation has been that you shouldn't be so credulous about stitched together screenshots. You're using CN's graduation as an axe to grind about the CCP instead of evaluating what actually happened. And you shouldn't claim events that didn't happen as fact, then ascribe a disposition to someone else based on your imagination (e.g. "you don't care about Tia because you're not up in arms over the fact that I imagined she was raped".

>> No.2705810

>>2705776
What the fuck, I had almost forgotten about him. See you ojii-san...

>> No.2705842

>>2698193
>>2697803
Is this the power of chinese denial? Not bad

>> No.2705920

>>2705798
and you, white boy, have no fucking clue about how China operates, how they use their people as tools, and how they make life hell for anyone around them that doesn't act like everything is peachy and right
this entire thing happened BECAUSE of the CCP, because billibilli wanted to control hololive like every chinese company does when it enters partnerships with foreign entities, because the people are brainwashed into thinking the CCP can do no wrong and everything is a fucking lie
, kind of like what you repeat
everything about tia, china and hololive is a LIE except the regurgitated lies spit out by chinese

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